The Special Operations Forces Report (SOFREP) called our attention to a 2,929-word letter signed by more than 1,000 Green Berets in support of protecting the Second Amendment and explaining why “all Americans should be concerned” about doing so themselves.

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The letter was originally posted on the website Professional Soldiers, a forum that Military.com explained is operated by retired Army Special Forces Master Sgt. Jeff Hinton. Military.com also noted that the 1,100 signatories were not officially named due to the nature of their careers, but the letter notes all are current or former Special Forces members.
“Like you, we are also loving and caring fathers and grandfathers. Like you, we have been stunned, horrified, and angered by the tragedies of Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Fort Hood, and Sandy Hook; and like you, we are searching for solutions to the problem of gun-related crimes in our society,” the letter by “Team Sergeant” reads.
The letter goes on to clarify a few points in the gun control debate. One of which is the misconception about “assault weapons,” for which many have proposed bans. The letter explains, as TheBlaze did in a previous article, that the term “assault” to describe rifles or other guns — especially semi-automatic ones — is often misplaced.
Under the letter’s definition of what an “assault” weapon is, the government has already “banned or heavily restricted” their sale. And an AR-15, for example, is not considered an “assault rifle.”
The letter takes a look at another popular vocabulary word of this gun debate: high-capacity magazine.
“As experts in military weapons of all types, it is our considered opinion that reducing magazine capacity from 30 rounds to 10 rounds will only require an additional 6 -8 seconds to change two empty 10 round magazines with full magazines,” the letter reads. “Would an increase of 6 –8 seconds make any real difference to the outcome in a mass shooting incident? In our opinion it would not. Outlawing such ‘high capacity magazines’ would, however, outlaw a class of firearms that are ‘in common use’.”
They also point out in the Columbine shootings, gunman Eric Harris used a firearm in compliance with the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 that used 10-round capacity magazines.
“[...] Harris simply brought more of them: thirteen magazines would be found in the massacre’s aftermath.”
The letter states that it is “politically expedient” to pass more gun control laws in light of recent events in the name of protecting children, but “is the problem really guns?” That’s the million dollar question isn’t it?
The letter goes on to discuss the intent and restrictions of the Second Amendment, court decisions involving firearm control and the unintended consequences of strict gun control laws. In the middle of the letter is the group’s general thesis:
So why should non-gun owners, a majority of Americans, care about maintaining the 2nd Amendment right for citizens to bear arms of any kind?
The answer is “The Battle of Athens, TN”. The Cantrell family had controlled the economy and politics of McMinn County, Tennessee since the 1930s. Paul Cantrell had been Sheriff from 1936 -1940 and in 1942 was elected to the State Senate. His chief deputy, Paul Mansfield, was subsequently elected to two terms as Sheriff. In 1946 returning WWII veterans put up a popular candidate for Sheriff. On August 1 Sheriff Mansfield and 200 “deputies” stormed the post office polling place to take control of the ballot boxes wounding an objecting observer in the process. The veterans bearing military style weapons, laid siege to the Sheriff’s office demanding return of the ballot boxes for public counting of the votes as prescribed in Tennessee law. After exchange of gun fire and blowing open the locked doors, the veterans secured the ballot boxes thereby protecting the integrity of the election. And this is precisely why all Americans should be concerned about protecting all of our right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment!
“Team Sergeant” then goes on to list their recommendations to create a safer society that protects the Second Amendment but “will require patience and diligence to realize an effect.”
Here’s the full letter:
Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned
We are current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers (Green Berets). We have all taken an oath to “…support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.…” The Constitution of the United States is without a doubt the single greatest document in the history of mankind, codifying the fundamental principle of governmental power and authority being derived from and granted through the consent of the governed. Our Constitution established a system of governance that preserves, protects, and holds sacrosanct the individual rights and primacy of the governed as well as providing for the explicit protection of the governed from governmental tyranny and/or oppression. We have witnessed the insidious and iniquitous effects of tyranny and oppression on people all over the world. We and our forebears have embodied and personified our organizational motto, De Oppresso Liber [To Free the Oppressed], for more than a half century as we have fought, shed blood, and died in the pursuit of freedom for the oppressed.
Like you, we are also loving and caring fathers and grandfathers. Like you, we have been stunned, horrified, and angered by the tragedies of Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Fort Hood, and Sandy Hook; and like you, we are searching for solutions to the problem of gun-related crimes in our society. Many of us are educators in our second careers and have a special interest to find a solution to this problem. However, unlike much of the current vox populi reactions to this tragedy, we offer a different perspective.
First, we need to set the record straight on a few things. The current debate is over so-called “assault weapons” and high capacity magazines. The terms “assault weapon” and “assault rifle” are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review, “Prior to 1989, the term ‘assault weapon’ did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term [underline added for emphasis], developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of assault rifles.”
The M4A1 carbine is a U.S. military service rifle – it is an assault rifle. The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. The “AR” in its name does not stand for “Assault Rifle” – it is the designation from the first two letters of the manufacturer’s name – ArmaLite Corporation. The AR-15 is designed so that it cosmetically looks like the M4A1 carbine assault rifle, but it is impossible to configure the AR-15 to be a fully automatic assault rifle. It is a single shot semi-automatic rifle that can fire between 45 and 60 rounds per minute depending on the skill of the operator. The M4A1 can fire up to 950 rounds per minute. In 1986, the federal government banned the import or manufacture of new fully automatic firearms for sale to civilians. Therefore, the sale of assault rifles are already banned or heavily restricted!
The second part of the current debate is over “high capacity magazines” capable of holding more than 10 rounds in the magazine. As experts in military weapons of all types, it is our considered opinion that reducing magazine capacity from 30 rounds to 10 rounds will only require an additional 6 -8 seconds to change two empty 10 round magazines with full magazines. Would an increase of 6 –8 seconds make any real difference to the outcome in a mass shooting incident? In our opinion it would not. Outlawing such “high capacity magazines” would, however, outlaw a class of firearms that are “in common use”. As such this would be in contravention to the opinion expressed by the U.S. Supreme Court recent decisions.
Moreover, when the Federal Assault Weapons Ban became law in 1994, manufacturers began retooling to produce firearms and magazines that were compliant. One of those ban-compliant firearms was the Hi-Point 995, which was sold with ten-round magazines. In 1999, five years into the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, the Columbine High School massacre occurred. One of the perpetrators, Eric Harris, was armed with a Hi-Point 995. Undeterred by the ten-round capacity of his magazines, Harris simply brought more of them: thirteen magazines would be found in the massacre’s aftermath. Harris fired 96 rounds before killing himself.
Now that we have those facts straight, in our opinion, it is too easy to conclude that the problem is guns and that the solution to the problem is more and stricter gun control laws. For politicians, it is politically expedient to take that position and pass more gun control laws and then claim to constituents that they have done the right thing in the interest of protecting our children. Who can argue with that? Of course we all want to find a solution. But, is the problem really guns? Would increasing gun regulation solve the problem? Did we outlaw cars to combat drunk driving?
What can we learn from experiences with this issue elsewhere? We cite the experience in Great Britain. Despite the absence of a “gun culture”, Great Britain, with one-fifth the population of the U.S., has experienced mass shootings that are eerily similar to those we have experienced in recent years. In 1987 a lone gunman killed 18 people in Hungerford. What followed was the Firearms Act of 1988 making registration mandatory and banning semi-automatic guns and pump-action shotguns. Despite this ban, on March 13, 1996 a disturbed 43-year old former scout leader, Thomas Hamilton, murdered 16 school children aged five and six and a teacher at a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland. Within a year and a half the Firearms Act was amended to ban all private ownership of hand guns. After both shootings there were amnesty periods resulting in the surrender of thousands of firearms and ammunition. Despite having the toughest gun control laws in the world, gun related crimes increased in 2003 by 35% over the previous year with firearms used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the preceding 12 months. Gun related homicides were up 32% over the same period. Overall, gun related crime had increased 65% since the Dunblane massacre and implementation of the toughest gun control laws in the developed world.
In contrast, in 2009 (5 years after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired) total firearm related homicides in the U.S. declined by 9% from the 2005 high (Source: “FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Master File, Table 310, Murder Victims – Circumstances and Weapons Used or Cause of Death: 2000-2009”).
Are there unintended consequences to stricter gun control laws and the politically expedient path that we have started down?
In a recent op-ed piece in the San Francisco Chronicle, Brett Joshpe stated that “Gun advocates will be hard-pressed to explain why the average American citizen needs an assault weapon with a high-capacity magazine other than for recreational purposes.”We agree with Kevin D. Williamson (National Review Online, December 28, 2012): “The problem with this argument is that there is no legitimate exception to the Second Amendment right that excludes military-style weapons, because military-style weapons are precisely what the Second Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear.”
“The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny. Consider the words of Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story”: ‘The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.’
The Second Amendment has been ruled to specifically extend to firearms “in common use” by the military by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in U.S. v Miller (1939). In Printz v U.S. (1997) Justice Thomas wrote: “In Miller we determined that the Second Amendment did not guarantee a citizen’s right to possess a sawed-off shot gun because that weapon had not been shown to be “ordinary military equipment” that could “could contribute to the common defense”.
A citizen’s right to keep and bear arms for personal defense unconnected with service in a militia has been reaffirmed in the U.S. Supreme Court decision (District of Columbia, et al. v Heller, 2008). The Court Justice Scalia wrote in the majority opinion: “The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.“. Justice Scalia went on to define a militia as “… comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense ….” “The Anti-Federalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.” he explained.
On September 13, 1994, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban went into effect. A Washington Post editorial published two days later was candid about the ban’s real purpose:“[N]o one should have any illusions about what was accomplished [by the ban]. Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control.”
In a challenge to the authority of the Federal government to require State and Local Law Enforcement to enforce Federal Law (Printz v United States) the U.S. Supreme Court rendered a decision in 1997. For the majority opinion Justice Scalia wrote: “…. this Court never has sanctioned explicitly a federal command to the States to promulgate and enforce laws and regulations When we were at last confronted squarely with a federal statute that unambiguously required the States to enact or administer a federal regulatory program, our decision should have come as no surprise….. It is an essential attribute of the States’ retained sovereignty that they remain independent and autonomous within their proper sphere of authority.”
So why should non-gun owners, a majority of Americans, care about maintaining the 2nd Amendment right for citizens to bear arms of any kind? The answer is “The Battle of Athens, TN”. The Cantrell family
had controlled the economy and politics of McMinn County, Tennessee since the 1930s. Paul Cantrell had been Sheriff from 1936 -1940 and in 1942 was elected to the State Senate. His chief deputy, Paul Mansfield, was subsequently elected to two terms as Sheriff. In 1946 returning WWII veterans put up a popular candidate for Sheriff. On August 1 Sheriff Mansfield and 200 “deputies” stormed the post office polling place to take control of the ballot boxes wounding an objecting observer in the process. The veterans bearing military style weapons, laid siege to the Sheriff’s office demanding return of the ballot boxes for public counting of the votes as prescribed in Tennessee law. After exchange of gun fire and blowing open the locked doors, the veterans secured the ballot boxes thereby protecting the integrity of the election. And this is precisely why all Americans should be concerned about protecting all of our right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment!
Throughout history, disarming the populace has always preceded tyrants’ accession of power. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all disarmed their citizens prior to installing their murderous regimes. At the beginning of our own nation’s revolution, one of the first moves made by the British government was an attempt to disarm our citizens. When our Founding Fathers ensured that the 2nd Amendment was made a part of our Constitution, they were not just wasting ink. They were acting to ensure our present security was never forcibly endangered by tyrants, foreign or domestic.
If there is a staggering legal precedent to protect our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms and if stricter gun control laws are not likely to reduce gun related crime, why are we having this debate? Other than making us and our elected representatives feel better because we think that we are doing something to protect our children, these actions will have no effect and will only provide us with a false sense of security.
So, what do we believe will be effective? First, it is important that we recognize that this is not a gun control problem; it is a complex sociological problem. No single course of action will solve the problem. Therefore, it is our recommendation that a series of diverse steps be undertaken, the implementation of which will require patience and diligence to realize an effect. These are as follows:
1. First and foremost we support our Second Amendment right in that “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.
2. We support State and Local School Boards in their efforts to establish security protocols in whatever manner and form that they deem necessary and adequate. One of the great strengths of our Republic is that State and Local governments can be creative in solving problems. Things that work can be shared. Our point is that no one knows what will work and there is no one single solution, so let’s allow the State and Local governments with the input of the citizens to make the decisions. Most recently the Cleburne Independent School District will become the first district in North Texas to consider allowing some teachers to carry concealed guns. We do not opine as to the appropriateness of this decision, but we do support their right to make this decision for themselves.
3. We recommend that Assisted Outpatient Treatment (AOT) laws be passed in every State. AOT is formerly known as Involuntary Outpatient Commitment (IOC) and allows the courts to order certain individuals with mental disorders to comply with treatment while living in the community. In each of the mass shooting incidents the perpetrator was mentally unstable. We also believe that people who have been adjudicated as incompetent should be simultaneously examined to determine whether they should be allowed the right to retain/purchase firearms.
4. We support the return of firearm safety programs to schools along the lines of the successful “Eddie the Eagle” program, which can be taught in schools by Peace Officers or other trained professionals.
5. Recent social psychology research clearly indicates that there is a direct relationship between gratuitously violent movies/video games and desensitization to real violence and increased aggressive behavior particularly in children and young adults (See Nicholas L. Carnagey, et al. 2007. “The effect of video game violence on physiological desensitization to real-life violence” and the references therein. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology 43:489-496). Therefore, we strongly recommend that gratuitous violence in movies and video games be discouraged. War and war-like behavior should not be glorified. Hollywood and video game producers are exploiting something they know nothing about. General Sherman famously said “War is Hell!” Leave war to the Professionals. War is not a game and should not be “sold” as entertainment to our children.
6. We support repeal of the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990. This may sound counter-intuitive, but it obviously isn’t working. It is our opinion that “Gun-Free Zones” anywhere are too tempting of an environment for the mentally disturbed individual to inflict their brand of horror with little fear of interference. While governmental and non-governmental organizations, businesses, and individuals should be free to implement a Gun-Free Zone if they so choose, they should also assume Tort liability for that decision.
7. We believe that border states should take responsibility for implementation of border control laws to prevent illegal shipments of firearms and drugs. Drugs have been illegal in this country for a long, long time yet the Federal Government manages to seize only an estimated 10% of this contraband at our borders. Given this dismal performance record that is misguided and inept (“Fast and Furious”), we believe that border States will be far more competent at this mission.
8. This is our country, these are our rights. We believe that it is time that we take personal responsibility for our choices and actions rather than abdicate that responsibility to someone else under the illusion that we have done something that will make us all safer. We have a responsibility to stand by our principles and act in accordance with them. Our children are watching and they will follow the example we set.
The undersigned Quiet Professionals hereby humbly stand ever present, ever ready, and ever vigilant.
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Comments (252)
bartjoebob
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:28pmAnother commenter asked on a different forumn, “why is it a semiauto rifle that holds 10+ rounds in the hands of a citizen is suddenly an “assualt weapon,” yet an open order for 7,000 full auto and selective fire machine guns that look like AR-15s in the hands of the gov’t are considered Homeland Security to be “personal defense weapons?” It’s commendable these guys did this. Even moreseo when consiedered these same individuals probably won’t fire on US citizens when ordered and might now be risking their job in the armed forces.
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muffythetuffy
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:51pmHOPEFULLY, ALL THOSE 24,000 US MARINES GETTING BOOTED OUT OF THE CORPS CAN HELP US IN OUR SECESSION IF NECESSARY
The TEA could take up collections to keep these booted Marines on retainer out of an act of Honor. One dollar a month from each TEA would be a bout $24 Million a month. That would make a good retainer fee. These booted Marines could keep their skills sharp by patrolling our towns in preparation for their guarding the streets of Heaven.
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happ77
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:57pmI agree with these guys 100% their suggestions make alot
more sense then anything we’ve heard from Washington
or the media, but, this will fall on deaf ears. Their minds
in washington are already made up and the rinos will
bitch and scream and then go along with whatever they
come up with, slightly watered down.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:07pmI’m glad that some people are wiling to stand up for the 2nd Amendment because they DO want your guns and they are coming for them:
http://www.isthatbaloney.com/if-you-dont-think-they-want-your-guns-just-read-senator-dianne-feinsteins-proposed-legislation/
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jakartaman
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:07pmHoly crap, common sense has not been eradicated!
God forbid our elite politician geniuses don’t catch this rare disease.
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GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:16pmIf we were only so passionate about ALL the amendments: http://youtu.be/gIeaA123fyk
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:23pmMan they are stepping on the posts big time aren’t they. Somebody, somewhere is stealing the posts and sending them to a black hole. It has been at 89 posts for the last half hour. Yeah right. Free speech my ass.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:25pmI have tried to reply to post about 8 times in the last half hour. Looks like some goon somewhere does not like what I have to say about them.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:47pmOh hell guys, you don’t suppose that the Administration is just now discovering that Green Beret does not mean the same “Green” as they wish? I guess they may as as well check with Ms WANG-DANG-DOODLE to see if this passes the Sensei sauce test.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:56pmDamn, speaking of the Sensei Sauce on this subject, where does SENDTHEMEATEEYORES stand on this subject? Surely, all of us low life non-elitist have to be wrong on the subject considering how much he had to have watched Bull Durham and is still in love with Tim Robbins. C’mon MEAT, tell us all about it and how we are wrong, and such small persons when it comes to our ability to think.
Hey MEAT, c’mon sometime late tonight on your JZS schedule drop by and tell us just how wrong we all are.
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Xiccarph
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:58pmWell, unlike the liberal media creation “assault weapon” (Josh Sugarmann; “Assault Weapons and Accessories in America” (1988)), a Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) is an actual recognized class of weapon. The Gov’t, being the Gov’t, can buy, make, use any weapon they want to.
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00100111
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:08pmSo…libs/anti-gunners…do you still think the military will be on your side when the stuff hits the fan? That’s a lot of green berets. You do know their job right? To train local militias and opposition forces… Just throwin that out there.
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Dachande
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:00pmAR has never been short for Assault Rifle, The AR-15 is the Armalite Rifle 15 series. Though it is a brand name has become synonymous with that series of rifles, regardless of brand and actual designation.
As for the complaints about “Personal Defense Weapons” it is a matter of characteristics by which professionals classify a certain weapon. PDWs are short barreled weapons of any configuration that is concealable. Many are “AR” series rifles with sub 16 inch barrels. Often PDWs have 10 inch barrels, which limit the effect range of the rifle while maintain performance for close quarters combat. It is typically the rifle you won’t see a PSD team carry until they need to engage.
I’m not arguing the hypocrisy of DHS, just pointing out the difference in terminology used. The more pressing question is “what threat assessment motivated the DHS to equip up to 7,000 Personal Security Detail members?”
So ask you elected officials to bring it up. I am.
Educating yourselves on the actual definitions helps you learn motives and therefore how to ask the correct questions.
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mensa141
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:36pmThere are many veterans that stand by what has been published here.
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revel222
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:57pmIt is so nice to see people come together on this issue finally and we need more of this. Join forces against evil! It’s now or never. I truly believe if the media stops putting this gun violence on the front page, we will see gun violence decrease. There are too many crazy people looking to be on the front page. The media knows this and it serves their agenda. It’s sick.
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Red Meat
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:03pmBeck calls for a third party. Will not give one dime to a Republican.
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conservativesteve1960
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:55pmThey can join our well armed militia
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jblaze
Jan. 30, 2013 at 5:07pmHallelujah brothers!
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TH30PH1LUS
Jan. 30, 2013 at 5:26pm“Don’t be afraid,” the prophet answered. “Those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” 2 Kings 6:16
It does my heart good to see this letter. Thanks!
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chicago76
Jan. 30, 2013 at 5:57pmWell thought out and said. Hurrah.
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turkey13
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:00pm“Those who supress freedom always do so in the name of law and order.” – John V. Lindsey
“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs, is to be ruled by evil men.” – Plato
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katzkiner
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:09pmIsn’t this just lovely? We send F16s and M1Abrams the MB in Egypt along with over $ 2 billion and dump 24,000 loyal, trained and combat experienced Marines into the worst job market since the Great Depression with a “Thank You for Your Service”. The wrong people are calling the shots. That my friends, sounds like bad management or worse.
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dmerwin
Jan. 30, 2013 at 8:59pmWhen the time is right these people are trained to make a viable military force out of a rabble. That is their mission. I’m glad they are on our side and that we have a head start in that we are armed.
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DeOppressoLiber
Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:14amAmen Team Sergeant.
Just went over to the site and signed.
Love the facts and common sense and the historical perspective. Would have expected nothing less out of a Team Sergeant.
Team Sergeant greatest job in the military.
Green Berets, they carry The Shot Heard Around The World, to the oppressed.
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DeOppressoLiber
Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:37amTeam Sergeant
Put it out to the individual chapters to sign
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smghvacr
Jan. 31, 2013 at 8:51amI am the people,i am the one who pays the bills,i am the one who protects my family and my brother,the constitution is my only law…I will lay down my life to defend what i believe,i will not let my children be subject to this tyranic goverment,stand up stand up or you will be silenced forever……..
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dcatkin
Jan. 31, 2013 at 9:31amYou can always find morons that don’t understand the second amendment or what it’s about that don’t mind the feds getting rid of it.
On the other hand somebody used the phrase we need more “Americans”. tThey are leaving the broders open to create an influx of non-American / anti-Americans in this country.
It seems to be working rather well doesn’t it. One thing is related to the other. We cannot just have a country full of luntic lefties that what to destroy our rights.
We are getting more like Erupoe and other places because we keep importing them here. Look at one example that is legal Piers Morgan, who speaks and acts like a European.
Wile boasting that we need to get rid of guns in this country, he just wants a taste of his homeland.
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RANGER1965
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:27pmGood meaty stuff.
I just wish the lamestream media would report on this. More and more we are being isolated to one news channel, talk radio, and a few websites. If this type of stuff never gets out, then it’s as though it never happened.
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SimpleTruths
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:44pmIt doesn’t get out on mainstream media because the audience for this fits inside of a trailer park.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:46pmGood stuff. And amazingly, they didn’t counsel to stand around weeping, turn in your guns, and hope that lawyers will save you after you’re in prison in a legal system that no longer is functional. Strange isn’t it?
These are men.
Beck is a coward hiding behind the shield of his Christianity hoping somebody else will act on his behalf, willing to surrender everything immediately and have you surrender it to; instead of manning up, standing up and saying “No More. Not one inch further”.
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OldSurfRat
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:55pmSimpletruths ??????
Think not “Simpleton”. Yep thats more like it!
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:57pmDon’t worry Simple, you will have your chance to back up your mouth. Now THAT is gonna be a hoot. See you around pinko.
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Walkabout
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:42pmSimpleTon
It doesn’t get out on mainstream media because the audience for this fits inside of a trailer park.
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Not according to Alexa rankings.
Meanwhile Current TV is folding & Al Gore is laughing all the way to the bank after selling you down the river.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:44pmHey SIMP, you don’t mean the same one that you occupy, do you?
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mercenary4freedom
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:56pmSimpleT, where you at? I want to test out my new taser flashlight.
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00100111
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:11pmI see Simpleton is scared. You should be scared. Get ready, it’s about to happen.
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Silvertruth
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:04pmIt was GREAT Stuff… well thought out and simple to the core. Awesome letter, much like the Utah Sheriff’s association.
Ghost of Jefferson-
Lay off Beck. He’s done more, risked more, and provided more for his fellow American’s than I see you doing. Every day he and his family are at risk of death from some nut job. His death threats probably outnumber the letters of each word in every one of your posts. You can’t call him a coward when every day he gets up and trys to make things better for everyone and suffers massive public thrashings for it. You get to hide behind an anonymous name and make your statements, he does not. He’s not the coward here, the rest of us are…
Seriously, Beck is advocating NOT giving up your weapons, standing your ground, getting arrested and fighting it out in the courts because we are NOT to the point of shedding blood and fighting it out in the streets yet. That is a worst case scenario, please stop rushing towards the worst case! All of you claiming the ‘over my dead body’ mantra, just stop it. There are hundreds of things we can do before we get to that point, let’s work on doing them first please. Otherwise we look like blood thirsty, violent idiots…
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:22pmSilver,
The Ghost has been a leader in the patriot movement way before you showed up. You are most welcome of course. The Ghost has defended freedom for decades and his intelligent responses to trolls and commies regarding legal matters, history and the Constitution are unmatched. He is a true leader. Beck, while somewhat helpful seems almost like an operative, a clever one at that. He will be hiding in his underground bunker in the lap of luxury while the rest of us do the dirty work. Make no mistake. But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Freedom of speech ‘tries’ to live on this board. Stand tall soldier.
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katzkiner
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:33pmSimple, do you realize that if you go to any military town with your attitude the grunts in the trailer park will tear you a new hole? Low ranking military either live in base housing or low income housing of base. There is little crime there and punks like you become grease spots on the pavement, fast.
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Walkabout
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:18pmSimpleTruths is a shoot & scoot type of troll. They want to get under people’s skin. It gets them off because when you come down to it they really have nothing going on in their life. So they would rather see others miserable. If they can’ have happiness then no one can.
They reply & we use the opportunity to rebut their childish arguments coolly & dispassionately.
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:20pmHey GhostofJefferson,
Yeah, I’m right there with you, bro!
I thought that the move to TX would be good for Glen; but, he seems to have lost his way between NY and TX. Here’s a great analogy that appeared on http://www.virginianewssource.com today:
Gun Control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober drivers to own cars!
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Silvertruth
Jan. 30, 2013 at 8:26pmMil-Dot:
I have no idea who Ghost is or his past, my comments were not derogatory of him as a whole. I am not a leader in the “Patriot Movement” or whatever that is, but I have been a patriot my whole life. My point is, we all can see who Glenn Beck is, he gets up there as himself and lets it fly every day, the same can’t be said for us ‘posters’.
To call Mr. Beck a coward or even as you claim ‘he’ll be in his bunker’ which imply’s some kind of passive aggressive insult there (calling Glenn a coward as well? I’m not sure…), is insulting to those of us that realize the voice he’s given to freedom and the great work he’s done here. You are posting on a board that he pays for out of pocket. That’s awesome that he puts something out there to let people insult him all day on and listen to people.
I see absolutely ZERO evidence of Mr. Beck being a coward. If he packed up his marbles, retired to a ‘bunker’ and let the country go down in flames, I’d understand it, people that should be understanding and supportive of him call him names that have no basis in truth. It has to be grating on him day after day and hurting is family all the time.
So while I’m generally in agreement and respectful of Ghost’s views or opinions; when he’s off and in this case VERY off about something, I will speak up and say something. He may not agree with Beck’s approach to the issue, but that does NOT make Mr. Beck a coward.
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Micmac
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:26pmThe way all this works is to restrict to 10 round magazines. Then when more shootings occur they say they didn’t go far enough and then restrict the number of magazines you can have to one. When the door opens. it eventually opens all the way. So shut it must remain.
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candymanal
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:01pmI sooo, agree.
It’s just a foot in the door, tactic.
Remember when …. Abortion was never to be used for birth control, and never ever, paid for, by the taxpayer?
Once done, it will never be reversed.
If you have any doubts, just look at our tax code, from the thities until now.
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naughtycal
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:25pmThat why the tyrants chose to call themselves PROGRESSIVE.
As they slowly progress their ideology on the country until they have total control. This progression is the next step from the previous tolerance America gave in their original foot in the door in 1992.
Just look how they implemented seat belt laws…from infant requirements to full violation for any passenger.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 4:34pmNaughty,
You are correct. That is why the first chance we get we need to smoke out every last one of them like the cockroaches they are and stomp their guts out like bugs. They must be given no quarter at all. None.
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searching for the Truth
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:26pmI liked the picture with the magnifying glass !!!!!
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usgrant
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:20pmThe emperor Caligula had a nasty habit of insulting and denegrating the pretorian guard, which was his personal protection. They also had families, and friends whom even while protecting their meal ticket would not kill thier own family. Things did not work out well for Caligula, and many other Emperors whom P Oed the Pretorian Guard. Big O may want to remember this. Just saying.
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AReaganAirForceVet
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:20pmWOW!!!! This has never been stated better by anyone else than how these heroic veterans stated it. This needs to reprinted and distributed to our friends and family. Especially the story of Athens, TN. Thank God for our veterans, of which I am one but not in the same class as these individuals. With all that is going on in our country, I think I can safely say, Sleep well tonight America, our country is being watched over by the greatest military veterans in the world.
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WillG
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:00pmAs you might imagine The Battle of Athens is widely known and still a topic of conversation here in Tn. Proof positive of why the 2nd Amendment is so very important. In addition it shows the difference of what instead of sitting idly by and letting atrocities go on around you and taking action by a few brave men can actually accomplish.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:00pmExactly, I would not want to be in the shoes of the miscreant that opens up THAT 55 gallon drum of whoopass. That will definitely leave a mark.
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nocalifornia
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:20pmμολὼν λαβέ molṑn labé
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Shrugged
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:26pm-j/.’;*0=
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00100111
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:17pmShrugged. It means “Come and get them”.
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highcarry
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:15pmi took an oath when i entered the military to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. i made that oath to god and my country and it cannot and will not be rescinded.
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chucksue351
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:22pmditto, ditto,ditto, we took the oath and it is still in effect
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Ironeagle
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:23pmMe too.
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rightwinder
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:29pmThe term domestic enemy is interesting…
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@leftfighter
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:32pmWhile I pray that the “domestic” part of our oath never comes into play, I’ve been seeing usurpations and blatant disregard for the Constitution at many passes that has made me uneasy for a very long time now.
And then, of course, the question becomes, “what of it?”
Would we not be wrong for taking action against someone who is an avowed enemy of the Constitution because it’s his first amendment right to be so?
Very strange days in which we live. Very strange, indeed.
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DissenterKnight
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:34pmDitto and Amen!
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jteagle
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:37pmI too took oath and if any of you gun nuts refuses to obey the law, I will be among the first to reenlist to stop your attack on this country or its glorious leader President Obama (praise his name).
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OhioRifleman
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:43pm@ Rightwinder
Welcome to the Blaze, amigo.
@ Thread
I never was mil or LEO (could not enlist due to medical – asthma – and I tried right after HS), but I’m in with you guys when the balloon goes up, if ye shall suffer a civvie in your ranks such as I.
I will live free or I will die hard. At this point in my life, I really don’t care which, both sound a helluva lot better than the neo-slavery of socialism.
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The_Woofster
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:48pmJTBEAGLE…
Umm..and you’ll most likely to be the first to be fragged.
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1RealAmerican
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:50pm@Highcarry,
Right there with you brother…
Oathkeepers.org
@jteagle,
I really hope you aren’t serious with that comment – If the SHTF and you are serious by my standards you would be a traitor to the U.S. and would be dealt with accordingly……….
Just sayin……..
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c.parker
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:54pmYup! I also took that oath by proxy through my husband who is an active duty military member. The day he took that oath he did it not just for himself but for the both of us and our children. My boys (12 and 15) feel the same way and both have plans to join up after their schooling is done. God bless our vets and our active duty members…..and their families! ;)
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Fubared
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:04pmYou guys…TJBeagle purports to be a mech driver and you all know the destruction a driver can reap. Let the troll have it’s say. It will have big gym ‘guns’ and be attired in a 0 shirt when tshf…Easy peasy.
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Pokerjoe
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:04pmWhen we took the oath in 66 it was for all of us. Still is. Why can’t these fools see it? Thanks for all you have done and still do. For some of you don’t drop by my place and tell me we should not be armed. We have a right and we beleve in it. Thanks vets.
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dajones
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:05pmIt is interesting.. The term “domestic enemy” in this context refers to those who attack the constitution…not to just anyone domestically who is our enemy. Many politicians have crossed the line into the ranks of domestic enemies who attack the constitution – either deliberately or because of their gross ignorance. What they forget most of the time is the rights in the constitution are not granted by the federal government. There are many ways to fight against a domestic enemy.. the green berets here are demonstraiting a very good way; we need to assist them in getting their message out.
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biohazard23
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:15pmPoor little Teagle. Those ‘roids affecting your anger management and social skills again? Apparently they’re causing you some delusional thinking as well since you seem to think you’re ex-military. You poor, poor dear. Bless your steroid-hypertrophied heart….
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Strider26
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:43pm@JTeagle – I would hope that was sarcasm..especially considering the final comment, but just in case, all of us vets took an were sworn in with an oath. The oath was not to defend and or obey the president, the congress, the supreme court, our military chain of command or even this country. It was to defend the constitution. It was to defend it against all enemies of that constitution. Even when they are the a fore mentioned public officials. If you are serious in your statement, then you are useless as a soldier and as a defender. You are no different than the guards at the concentration camps in Germany during WWII. I was just following orders is the excuse of the fool.
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jteagle
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:46pmYou guys can hurl all the insults you want. I would vehemently defend the country and our president from you kooks. Guess you’ll just have to deal with me accordingly or try. Oh and I’m sure ******* means driver as an insult but I’m proud of my service. Someone has to bring that tank to the party. Be happy to do it again to defend against you crazy domestic enemies.
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Strider26
Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:59pm@JTeagle – Not a word about defending the constitution I notice. Just your beloved Fuehrer. Idiots like you are why things like WWII Germany happen. The Communists refer to you as “useful idiots”. You are certainly proving their point.
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jteagle
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:22pmStrider the constitution is not under attack. Contrary to what you gun nuts think, nobody is coming for your guns. Not ever gonna happen. What I fear will happen is that one of you paranoid freaks will do.something really stupid to start a whole mess. Then I will absolutely join the fight.
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biohazard23
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:23pm@Strider, that’s because our resident ‘roided out troll never served in the military. He’s never driven anything bigger than a Vespa, and certainly never a tank. Don’t take the poor boy seriously. No one else does. Just leave him alone to pathetically slobber all over his dear leader poster from 2008.
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Cavallo
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:03pmJteagle, Don’t forget to bring your jackboots, fascist.
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Zipit
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:07pmI’m thinking the only thing that JT has served, is some flapjacks down at the Ihop!
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Dismayed Veteran
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:09pmJTEagle
It is not the country we are defending. It is the Constitution. The highest law in the land and the bedrock of our republic. Many of us took the Oath of Enlistment or Commission and didn’t think much of it at the time. We were more concerned about what was going to happen next when we left the AFEES.
The real point of the Oath is that the obligation to follow it never ends. As you become more mature, it will dawn on you that the Oath is one of the most important promises you will ever make. Each of us must hold the course.
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Fubared
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:49pmMe thinks TJBeagle is a new lesbian troll. Every law since the 2nd was written is unconstitutional Beagle. ‘Praise be his name’ is so passé. Even real trolls dropped that blather. What a ‘gun’ heavy kook. An honest to 0 vet. Sure. Is ‘Curves’ now passing as a gym? Victory Lady caters to the ‘gun’ crowd, uh huh. What a maroon. On a piece about snake eaters no less. That is rich.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:02pmJTEagle,
I hope you meant to put a (sarc) after your comment. But, if not, then by all means re-enlist and come after us. Anybody that sides with evil commies will be dealt with accordingly. If I read you wrong, then I apologize. But, if you meant it, you will be sorry.
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OldVet
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:07pmI have taken that oath seven times. It definitely remains in effect. The part about “foreign and domestic” was not a typo.
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nonofmybiznez
Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:53pmDitto. It warms my heart and reminds me that Jesus said he would give us rest. Rest my brothers and sisters. Knowing you have my back makes me feel stronger.
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SwampFoxHiggy
Jan. 30, 2013 at 10:46pmI stand with you. oath keepers til death do us part.
Molon Labe
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Friendofthe56
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:15pmGod Bless these magnificent Patriots!!!
Thank you for defending our Country and Constitution!!!
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HI_Don
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:15pmIdiocy: Trying the same things known to fail in the past expecting different results.
Government: (See idiocy)
With the years of restrictive gun control showing zero results, in fact – negative results on crime, gang violence, etc. It is time to try something NEW. Let’s attack some of the OTHER issues surrounding crime and violence such as our cultureal decay, ending the attack on families, a return to moral principles, dealing with mental health issues in responsible ways, and changing our judicial system that allows such liberty to repeat offenders? Lets give something else a try other than punishing the law abiding citizens and their rights to self protection in a country less and less likely to offer them any real protection.
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RLTW
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:14pmFantastic! When 1000+ from the SOF community step forward and sign such a letter you can bet it equal 99.9% of the entire Special Operation Forces, the best and brightest are with US.
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Cavallo
Jan. 30, 2013 at 3:20pmThat means access and training in rocket launchers, armored vehicles, explosives, and other specialized equipment. The fascist forces seeking to deprive the citizens of liberty would not only be vastly outnumber but now outgunned and out trained.
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AmericanStrega
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:13pmWhat a fantastic letter! Sadly, our governent isn’t interested in our second amendment rights. They’re only concerned with controlling the population for their own ends.
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Locked-n-Loaded
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:12pmIn the theme of people standing up for their rights, I’ve found a facebook page in support of PA’s House Bikl 357; basically in line with other states bills that would nullify federal gun bans in that state. I live in PA and support this! We need to stand up; for if we do nothing, our freedoms will escape one by one. Don’t be so naive as to think they’ll stop with just guns. Here’s a link to that facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/PaHouseBill357
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txswalker
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:11pmThats Awsome!!!!..I’m sharing this.
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jcldwl
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:11pmI commend these brave men for keeping true to the oath they took to protect the U.S. Constitution from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. Many of us have taken that oath and it is with you for your lifetime not just during your enlistment.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:34pmAmen, Brother. I was Honorably discharged in 1984; but in my view, that does not relieve me from my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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team1blazer
Jan. 30, 2013 at 5:57pmI never took that oath, but I DO solemnly swear to uphold the constitution of the United States of America, against ALL enemys, both forign and domestic. I’m armed, self sufficient, protected by God, and unwilling to yield to tyants. Bring it!
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:19pmMy father served in Vietnam. We would send cassettes (remember those?) back and forth with our voices on them. It was better than writing letters. He was stationed at Da Nang during the Tet Offensive. I remember him “speaking” to my 2 brothers and 2 sisters on the tape when gigantic explosions were heard in the background and the recording was cut off abruptly. From the stories he told us we are to this day amazed that he survived. My dad was the real McCoy. A soldier. My two brothers and I will not let my Dad down. We will eliminate the enemy once and for all. For all of America if it comes to that.
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SingerGuy
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:11pmSo very well put. I have to go back and re-read that letter in a distraction-free environment.
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MisterSarcastic
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:08pmThankfully these men of great knowledge, skill and courage are on our side.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:35pmNot only are they patriots and defenders, they are trainers-able to take a bunch of scrubs and teach them how to fight and win. 1100 Green Berets can assemble a massive force of indigents into a force to be reckoned with. As sick as this may seem, I truly hope that something occurs to light the match on this joint. We cannot allow the slow squeeze around our necks to continue. Of course the politicians will try to milk and kick said can down road again. But eventually, they will be on the run. And we must not stop until every last traitor is captured, and either hung or shot. And that includes all of their yes men, lackys, toadies, servants, protectors and relatives.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:42pmIndiginents-not indigents-holy crap I need to slow down. But that is funny-lol
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Ghandi was a Republican
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:07pmThese NWOer Central planners need a little reminder. Ours is a Volunteer military and a Citizen military. And once military, always military. Once an American, always an American. No matter who obama places, no matter who the headshots to stage a coup- obama is already defeated.
Obama’s ‘military’ may give the order to fire on a crowd, but they will never get away with it. THAT is why they want YOIUR guns.
If they wanted the guns out of the hands of criminals- THEY HAVE THE LAWS ALREADY.
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Thundergod
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:05pmThank you Green Berets! Thank God we have men like you standing vigilant over America and the rights of her citizens.
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Cavallo
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:03pmCome get them. Looks like at least a quality portion of the US Military will side with the people.
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OhioRifleman
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:16pmIf the military splits along partisan percentages, we win by default. If the bulk of the military follows the UCMJ and refuses illegal orders, it’s game over for Progressives in this country.
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DissenterKnight
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:38pmWhy do you think Candidate Obama in 2008 stated the need for a secondary force “as weel funded, well trained and well equipped [armed?] as the military”?
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:54pmDis,
That secondary “force” is made up of the takers. The leeches. Those that think that a free ride is just around the corner. Those ‘forces” (joke) may be able to terrorize old folks and women ( oops, some women-ouch, stop hitting me!) but they will quickly run into a bunch of us “makers” and they will pay dearly. While I welcome all patriots to the cause, and I don’t care if your skin color is greenish-orange, the snowman has a well-deserved reputation for taking care of business. And if the uniforms that distinguish the various combatants turn out to be skin color, woe is he and she that that chooses sides based on that alone.
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Jenny Lind
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:02pmWell done, well said. I am gratefull for the vigilance of these good men.
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Fubared
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:02pmEnough said.
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flyarmy2009
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:01pmguess none of these guy’s will be serving on barry’s staff. Should be a valuable lesson to the libs who think they’re royalty who currently reside in D.C. and who think they can just unleash the U.S. Military on the citizenry. Aint gonna Happen! Screw you barry!
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ArchaicSEAL
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:23pmGreat letter! Proud of you Green collars! Now if I could only get my community to even write a letter or make a stand…
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DeOppressoLiber
Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:57amARCHAISEAL
Send the letter to your association and get onboard, have them set it up to sign.
Team Sergeant lets recruit more to the movement, send the letter to all of the SOF associations and let them sign it.
Through, By, and With!!!!
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banjarmon
Jan. 30, 2013 at 11:55amThank You Berets for fighting for Our Second Amendment!!!
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FaithfulFriend
Jan. 30, 2013 at 11:54amThat pretty much covers it.
Hoorah.
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tightline
Jan. 30, 2013 at 12:20pmYep! Now we just need more to stand up and speak. I for one did not give 8 years to my country to watch the second or any other amendment be taken away.
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TSUNAMI_22
Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:43pm@ tightline
Yep! Now we just need more to stand up and speak. I for one did not give 8 years to my country to watch the second or any other amendment be taken away.
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Just wait until April 15th, 2014. That’s the day thousands and thousands refuse to comply with New York’s Assault Weapons ban through massive civil disobedience.
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