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Read the Letter 1,100 Green Berets Signed for Protection of the 2nd Amendment

The Special Operations Forces Report (SOFREP) called our attention to a 2,929-word letter signed by  more than 1,000 Green Berets in support of protecting the Second Amendment and explaining why “all Americans should be concerned” about doing so themselves.

Green Berets Sign Letter to Support Second Amendment and Explain Why All Americans Should Care About It

(Photo: Gregory Johnston / Shutterstock.com)

The letter was originally posted on the website Professional Soldiers, a forum that Military.com explained is operated by retired Army Special Forces Master Sgt. Jeff Hinton. Military.com also noted that the 1,100 signatories were not officially named due to the nature of their careers, but the letter notes all are current or former Special Forces members.

“Like you, we are also loving and caring fathers and grandfathers. Like you, we have been stunned, horrified, and angered by the tragedies of Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Fort Hood, and Sandy Hook; and like you, we are searching for solutions to the problem of gun-related crimes in our society,” the letter by “Team Sergeant” reads.

The letter goes on to clarify a few points in the gun control debate. One of which is the misconception about “assault weapons,” for which many have proposed bans. The letter explains, as TheBlaze did in a previous article, that the term “assault” to describe rifles or other guns — especially semi-automatic ones — is often misplaced.

Under the letter’s definition of what an “assault” weapon is, the government has already “banned or heavily restricted” their sale. And an AR-15, for example, is not considered an “assault rifle.”

The letter takes a look at another popular vocabulary word of this gun debate: high-capacity magazine.

“As experts in military weapons of all types, it is our considered opinion that reducing magazine capacity from 30 rounds to 10 rounds will only require an additional 6 -8 seconds to change two empty 10 round magazines with full magazines,” the letter reads. “Would an increase of 6 –8 seconds make any real difference to the outcome in a mass shooting incident? In our opinion it would not. Outlawing such ‘high capacity magazines’ would, however, outlaw a class of firearms that are ‘in common use’.”

They also point out in the Columbine shootings, gunman Eric Harris used a firearm in compliance with the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 that used 10-round capacity magazines.

“[...] Harris simply brought more of them: thirteen magazines would be found in the massacre’s aftermath.”

The letter states that it is “politically expedient” to pass more gun control laws in light of recent events in the name of protecting children, but “is the problem really guns?” That’s the million dollar question isn’t it?

The letter goes on to discuss the intent and restrictions of the Second Amendment, court decisions involving firearm control and the unintended consequences of strict gun control laws. In the middle of the letter is the group’s general thesis:

So why should non-gun owners, a majority of Americans, care about maintaining the 2nd Amendment right for citizens to bear arms of any kind?

The answer is “The Battle of Athens, TN”. The Cantrell family had controlled the economy and politics of McMinn County, Tennessee since the 1930s. Paul Cantrell had been Sheriff from 1936 -1940 and in 1942 was elected to the State Senate. His chief deputy, Paul Mansfield, was subsequently elected to two terms as Sheriff. In 1946 returning WWII veterans put up a popular candidate for Sheriff. On August 1 Sheriff Mansfield and 200 “deputies” stormed the post office polling place to take control of the ballot boxes wounding an objecting observer in the process. The veterans bearing military style weapons, laid siege to the Sheriff’s office demanding return of the ballot boxes for public counting of the votes as prescribed in Tennessee law. After exchange of gun fire and blowing open the locked doors, the veterans secured the ballot boxes thereby protecting the integrity of the election. And this is precisely why all Americans should be concerned about protecting all of our right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment!

“Team Sergeant” then goes on to list their recommendations to create a safer society that protects the Second Amendment but “will require patience and diligence to realize an effect.”

Here’s the full letter:

Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned

We are current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers (Green Berets). We have all taken an oath to “…support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.…” The Constitution of the United States is without a doubt the single greatest document in the history of mankind, codifying the fundamental principle of governmental power and authority being derived from and granted through the consent of the governed. Our Constitution established a system of governance that preserves, protects, and holds sacrosanct the individual rights and primacy of the governed as well as providing for the explicit protection of the governed from governmental tyranny and/or oppression. We have witnessed the insidious and iniquitous effects of tyranny and oppression on people all over the world. We and our forebears have embodied and personified our organizational motto, De Oppresso Liber [To Free the Oppressed], for more than a half century as we have fought, shed blood, and died in the pursuit of freedom for the oppressed.

Like you, we are also loving and caring fathers and grandfathers. Like you, we have been stunned, horrified, and angered by the tragedies of Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Fort Hood, and Sandy Hook; and like you, we are searching for solutions to the problem of gun-related crimes in our society. Many of us are educators in our second careers and have a special interest to find a solution to this problem. However, unlike much of the current vox populi reactions to this tragedy, we offer a different perspective.

First, we need to set the record straight on a few things. The current debate is over so-called “assault weapons” and high capacity magazines. The terms “assault weapon” and “assault rifle” are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review, “Prior to 1989, the term ‘assault weapon’ did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term [underline added for emphasis], developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of assault rifles.”

The M4A1 carbine is a U.S. military service rifle – it is an assault rifle. The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. The “AR” in its name does not stand for “Assault Rifle” – it is the designation from the first two letters of the manufacturer’s name – ArmaLite Corporation. The AR-15 is designed so that it cosmetically looks like the M4A1 carbine assault rifle, but it is impossible to configure the AR-15 to be a fully automatic assault rifle. It is a single shot semi-automatic rifle that can fire between 45 and 60 rounds per minute depending on the skill of the operator. The M4A1 can fire up to 950 rounds per minute. In 1986, the federal government banned the import or manufacture of new fully automatic firearms for sale to civilians. Therefore, the sale of assault rifles are already banned or heavily restricted!

The second part of the current debate is over “high capacity magazines” capable of holding more than 10 rounds in the magazine. As experts in military weapons of all types, it is our considered opinion that reducing magazine capacity from 30 rounds to 10 rounds will only require an additional 6 -8 seconds to change two empty 10 round magazines with full magazines. Would an increase of 6 –8 seconds make any real difference to the outcome in a mass shooting incident? In our opinion it would not. Outlawing such “high capacity magazines” would, however, outlaw a class of firearms that are “in common use”. As such this would be in contravention to the opinion expressed by the U.S. Supreme Court recent decisions.

Moreover, when the Federal Assault Weapons Ban became law in 1994, manufacturers began retooling to produce firearms and magazines that were compliant. One of those ban-compliant firearms was the Hi-Point 995, which was sold with ten-round magazines. In 1999, five years into the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, the Columbine High School massacre occurred. One of the perpetrators, Eric Harris, was armed with a Hi-Point 995. Undeterred by the ten-round capacity of his magazines, Harris simply brought more of them: thirteen magazines would be found in the massacre’s aftermath. Harris fired 96 rounds before killing himself.

Now that we have those facts straight, in our opinion, it is too easy to conclude that the problem is guns and that the solution to the problem is more and stricter gun control laws. For politicians, it is politically expedient to take that position and pass more gun control laws and then claim to constituents that they have done the right thing in the interest of protecting our children. Who can argue with that? Of course we all want to find a solution. But, is the problem really guns? Would increasing gun regulation solve the problem? Did we outlaw cars to combat drunk driving?

What can we learn from experiences with this issue elsewhere? We cite the experience in Great Britain. Despite the absence of a “gun culture”, Great Britain, with one-fifth the population of the U.S., has experienced mass shootings that are eerily similar to those we have experienced in recent years. In 1987 a lone gunman killed 18 people in Hungerford. What followed was the Firearms Act of 1988 making registration mandatory and banning semi-automatic guns and pump-action shotguns. Despite this ban, on March 13, 1996 a disturbed 43-year old former scout leader, Thomas Hamilton, murdered 16 school children aged five and six and a teacher at a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland. Within a year and a half the Firearms Act was amended to ban all private ownership of hand guns. After both shootings there were amnesty periods resulting in the surrender of thousands of firearms and ammunition. Despite having the toughest gun control laws in the world, gun related crimes increased in 2003 by 35% over the previous year with firearms used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the preceding 12 months. Gun related homicides were up 32% over the same period. Overall, gun related crime had increased 65% since the Dunblane massacre and implementation of the toughest gun control laws in the developed world.

In contrast, in 2009 (5 years after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired) total firearm related homicides in the U.S. declined by 9% from the 2005 high (Source: “FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Master File, Table 310, Murder Victims – Circumstances and Weapons Used or Cause of Death: 2000-2009”).

Are there unintended consequences to stricter gun control laws and the politically expedient path that we have started down?

In a recent op-ed piece in the San Francisco Chronicle, Brett Joshpe stated that “Gun advocates will be hard-pressed to explain why the average American citizen needs an assault weapon with a high-capacity magazine other than for recreational purposes.”We agree with Kevin D. Williamson (National Review Online, December 28, 2012): “The problem with this argument is that there is no legitimate exception to the Second Amendment right that excludes military-style weapons, because military-style weapons are precisely what the Second Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear.”

“The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny. Consider the words of Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story”: ‘The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.’

The Second Amendment has been ruled to specifically extend to firearms “in common use” by the military by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in U.S. v Miller (1939). In Printz v U.S. (1997) Justice Thomas wrote: “In Miller we determined that the Second Amendment did not guarantee a citizen’s right to possess a sawed-off shot gun because that weapon had not been shown to be “ordinary military equipment” that could “could contribute to the common defense”.

A citizen’s right to keep and bear arms for personal defense unconnected with service in a militia has been reaffirmed in the U.S. Supreme Court decision (District of Columbia, et al. v Heller, 2008). The Court Justice Scalia wrote in the majority opinion: “The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.“. Justice Scalia went on to define a militia as “… comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense ….” “The Anti-Federalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.” he explained.

On September 13, 1994, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban went into effect. A Washington Post editorial published two days later was candid about the ban’s real purpose:“[N]o one should have any illusions about what was accomplished [by the ban]. Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control.”

In a challenge to the authority of the Federal government to require State and Local Law Enforcement to enforce Federal Law (Printz v United States) the U.S. Supreme Court rendered a decision in 1997. For the majority opinion Justice Scalia wrote: “…. this Court never has sanctioned explicitly a federal command to the States to promulgate and enforce laws and regulations When we were at last confronted squarely with a federal statute that unambiguously required the States to enact or administer a federal regulatory program, our decision should have come as no surprise….. It is an essential attribute of the States’ retained sovereignty that they remain independent and autonomous within their proper sphere of authority.”

So why should non-gun owners, a majority of Americans, care about maintaining the 2nd Amendment right for citizens to bear arms of any kind? The answer is “The Battle of Athens, TN”. The Cantrell family

had controlled the economy and politics of McMinn County, Tennessee since the 1930s. Paul Cantrell had been Sheriff from 1936 -1940 and in 1942 was elected to the State Senate. His chief deputy, Paul Mansfield, was subsequently elected to two terms as Sheriff. In 1946 returning WWII veterans put up a popular candidate for Sheriff. On August 1 Sheriff Mansfield and 200 “deputies” stormed the post office polling place to take control of the ballot boxes wounding an objecting observer in the process. The veterans bearing military style weapons, laid siege to the Sheriff’s office demanding return of the ballot boxes for public counting of the votes as prescribed in Tennessee law. After exchange of gun fire and blowing open the locked doors, the veterans secured the ballot boxes thereby protecting the integrity of the election. And this is precisely why all Americans should be concerned about protecting all of our right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment!

Throughout history, disarming the populace has always preceded tyrants’ accession of power. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all disarmed their citizens prior to installing their murderous regimes. At the beginning of our own nation’s revolution, one of the first moves made by the British government was an attempt to disarm our citizens. When our Founding Fathers ensured that the 2nd Amendment was made a part of our Constitution, they were not just wasting ink. They were acting to ensure our present security was never forcibly endangered by tyrants, foreign or domestic.

If there is a staggering legal precedent to protect our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms and if stricter gun control laws are not likely to reduce gun related crime, why are we having this debate? Other than making us and our elected representatives feel better because we think that we are doing something to protect our children, these actions will have no effect and will only provide us with a false sense of security.

So, what do we believe will be effective? First, it is important that we recognize that this is not a gun control problem; it is a complex sociological problem. No single course of action will solve the problem. Therefore, it is our recommendation that a series of diverse steps be undertaken, the implementation of which will require patience and diligence to realize an effect. These are as follows:

1. First and foremost we support our Second Amendment right in that “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

2. We support State and Local School Boards in their efforts to establish security protocols in whatever manner and form that they deem necessary and adequate. One of the great strengths of our Republic is that State and Local governments can be creative in solving problems. Things that work can be shared. Our point is that no one knows what will work and there is no one single solution, so let’s allow the State and Local governments with the input of the citizens to make the decisions. Most recently the Cleburne Independent School District will become the first district in North Texas to consider allowing some teachers to carry concealed guns. We do not opine as to the appropriateness of this decision, but we do support their right to make this decision for themselves.

3. We recommend that Assisted Outpatient Treatment (AOT) laws be passed in every State. AOT is formerly known as Involuntary Outpatient Commitment (IOC) and allows the courts to order certain individuals with mental disorders to comply with treatment while living in the community. In each of the mass shooting incidents the perpetrator was mentally unstable. We also believe that people who have been adjudicated as incompetent should be simultaneously examined to determine whether they should be allowed the right to retain/purchase firearms.

4. We support the return of firearm safety programs to schools along the lines of the successful “Eddie the Eagle” program, which can be taught in schools by Peace Officers or other trained professionals.

5. Recent social psychology research clearly indicates that there is a direct relationship between gratuitously violent movies/video games and desensitization to real violence and increased aggressive behavior particularly in children and young adults (See Nicholas L. Carnagey, et al. 2007. “The effect of video game violence on physiological desensitization to real-life violence” and the references therein. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology 43:489-496). Therefore, we strongly recommend that gratuitous violence in movies and video games be discouraged. War and war-like behavior should not be glorified. Hollywood and video game producers are exploiting something they know nothing about. General Sherman famously said “War is Hell!” Leave war to the Professionals. War is not a game and should not be “sold” as entertainment to our children.

6. We support repeal of the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990. This may sound counter-intuitive, but it obviously isn’t working. It is our opinion that “Gun-Free Zones” anywhere are too tempting of an environment for the mentally disturbed individual to inflict their brand of horror with little fear of interference. While governmental and non-governmental organizations, businesses, and individuals should be free to implement a Gun-Free Zone if they so choose, they should also assume Tort liability for that decision.

7. We believe that border states should take responsibility for implementation of border control laws to prevent illegal shipments of firearms and drugs. Drugs have been illegal in this country for a long, long time yet the Federal Government manages to seize only an estimated 10% of this contraband at our borders. Given this dismal performance record that is misguided and inept (“Fast and Furious”), we believe that border States will be far more competent at this mission.

8. This is our country, these are our rights. We believe that it is time that we take personal responsibility for our choices and actions rather than abdicate that responsibility to someone else under the illusion that we have done something that will make us all safer. We have a responsibility to stand by our principles and act in accordance with them. Our children are watching and they will follow the example we set.

The undersigned Quiet Professionals hereby humbly stand ever present, ever ready, and ever vigilant.

Featured image via Shutterstock.com.

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Comments (252)

  • WOLVERINES56
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:05pm

    Spineless GOP career pols, are you reading this?

    You had better. This is THE issue, my former friends. If you don’t stand up to the gun grabbers on this, you will never win another election. Americans, both those who have sworn allegiance to the US Constitution, and those that have not been required to, yet support it, are watching.

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  • American_Made
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:05pm

    We need more from our armed services stating they will not allow another infringement of the people rights and will fight to maintain them and uphold the constitution even if it against congress and the tyrannical president.

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  • djay110
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:02pm

    The truth is that the United States of
    America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because
    our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our
    representatives are required to work within the framework of our
    Constitution.

    In other words, even if 99% of Americans want something that
    goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a
    violation of constitutional rights.

    I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a
    violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

    If that is a problem for our Reps then they need to be replaced Period.

    Only you can choose to give up your rights by not fighting for and preserving your right.

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  • thx1138v2
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:58pm

    Did anyone notice the call by congress for tighter background checks during _legal_ gun purchases by citizens but absolutely NO background checks on _illegal_ immigrants? That’s what the immigration process is all about – a one-on-one interview and background checks.

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  • TarheelFlyer
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:57pm

    The Liberal Creed,

    Never let facts stand in the way of a desired outcome.

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  • republic2011
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:56pm

    Amen. They hit the nail on the head. Patriots, all of them.

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  • Chuck7884
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:54pm

    Come on Marines you can a longer list! :)

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  • cdn1979
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:54pm

    so, what is the point of this letter? who cares who signs it, what it says, or who sees it? The content is no different than other pro gun stances. It makes sense, but what is the value add of it? who is it for?

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    • Thundergod
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:24pm

      When a Green Beret speaks,people are wise to listen. These men train freedom fighters to throw off the yoke of tyranny. When they see it in America,those politicians imposing tyranny should recognize they arent working to free men,but to enslave them.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 3:20pm

      Here is the answer to the question of who signed:

      “Military.com also noted that the 1,100 signatories were not officially named due to the nature of their careers, but the letter notes all are current or former Special Forces members.”

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  • WOLVERINES56
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:53pm

    Perhaps if this letter were signed by 1000 ****** ragheads in the allahbrotherhood, OWEdumba$$ would pay heed.

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  • Whatmeworry-never
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:50pm

    Just had this same discussion with fellow Vets and we all said same thing, we swore the oath, we lived it, and still believe in it. Also our loyalties are in this order, God, Country, Honor. No where did I swear an Oath to one person such as The President, we did swear to uphold and follow those appointed above us but we also do not have to follow unlawful orders. In todays world the word lawful may depend on what the definition of is is,to stealaline from Exprez Clinton. So what the Government may say is lawful is not always morally lawful and can be disobeyed.

    Taken from wikipedia–Molon Labe
    The phrase molon labe (Ancient Greek μολὼν λαβέ molṑn labé; reconstructed Ancient Greek pronunciation [molɔːn labé]; Modern Greek pronunciation [moˈlon laˈve]) means “Come and take”. It is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army’s demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae. It is an exemplary use of a laconic phrase.

    This is the United States of America–Molon labe, stand united or devided we fall to the tyrannical powergrabbers.

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  • Pilot11
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:48pm

    Ohhhh Raaahhhhh! Snake Eaters!~

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  • TADTAD
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:46pm

    My concern is that Marxists are a patient bunch. They know that our numbers are decreasing. It’s to our advantage for the STHTF sooner rather than later. I just think they’ll wait until most of us are dust.
    Having stated that, I took an oath, too, and I intend to keep it.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 7:24pm

      That is what I said Tad. We need a spark. But, do not worry. The blacks will start the conflagration. They will riot when Zimmerman is acquitted. We must then take advantage of it and go full force to the max.

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:41pm

    Thank you, Green Berets. Government employees (yes we are their bosses) should not be able to dictate what they can’t take. “Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you”

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  • 1FreeVoice
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:41pm

    Awfully long for a paid commercial to run it, but if there was a fund set up to raise money to publicize this, I think I’d donate.

    This is the kind of talk that is largely missing from the fears and tears media blast.

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  • newmike
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:39pm

    http://voxvocispublicus.homestead.com/Battle-of-Athens.html

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  • WillG
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:38pm

    I find it very odd that so many people do not or have never even heard of the Battle of Athens,Tn. Especially with the abundance of information at their finger tips today. I am also certain that it is not covered in public schools.

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  • barber2
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:36pm

    The 60s radicals , like Ayers, hated the American military . Just like they hated capitalism . Remember Kerry’s actions ? Seems like some things never change. Remember the old Lefty General Be-Tray-us Smears way back during the Iraq years ? Guess the Democrats finally got their revenge after all. Oh, they would call that ” social justice.” Part of the new vocabulary meanings of the Far Left who are crafty, under-handed propaganda masters.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 7:39pm

      You got it Barber. That fox that bedded the General was a prog operative. She was good. A true commie. If you want to bring down powerful type A males, hit them in the pants. And that is exactly what the pinkos did. I must admit. It was a well done operation. But they still suck. We need to employ the same against them. Problems is , conservative beauties have morals, the prog-commies have zilch. So, instead of sending the girls in, because the men are cowards, we need another method. One so sneaky and sick that it makes a coroner puke.

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  • LarryL2
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:35pm

    Sad that so many that profess to protect the Constitution have decided that they know what was meant. This whole debate is a twisting of what is really going on. The gun manufacturers and NRA want their money and power to continue to grow. Every developed country has restrictions on weapons allowed and registration procedures. Those countries all have massively smaller gun deaths per capita than the US. That is a fact, not some twisted statistics.

    That all of you, including armed forces members don’t seem to understand that armed militia you so frequently refer is not you as civilians but the very armed forces you came from. How do you not get that?

    Do you think Obama has mind control over the army and he’s trying to overrun the country? Do you think the generals would let him ‘take over’. Do you seriously not believe Obama has the best interests of America at heart whether you agree or disagree with his policies?

    Stop listening to the Beck’s and Limbaugh’s whose sole job it is to make money and stir up the masses. Try reading information from all over, in and out of the US so you have a balanced view. Understand what and why Obama(and a majority of your fellow citizens) want these restrictions and how it works in other countries. Otherwise you are just reacting to pundits and propaganda. There is no fair media anymore on the right or left. It is up to you to decipher what is real. Listening to the rhetoric on either side will never give you an infor

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    • RLTW
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:02pm

      You sound like a good communist who is no longer grounded in his instinctual nature.
      “The gun manufacturers and NRA want their money and power to continue to grow.”
      You obviously refuse to use your massive intellect and God give human instinct to apply the above quote to government progressives.

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    • Pilot11
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:03pm

      You act as this topic is up for discussion. It is not! It was decided over 200 years ago. Thousands of our ancestors have died protecting the the Constitution and the amendments there of.
      If you want to change the constitution of the U. S., there is a method for doing so. No, weasels that your are want to nibble around the edges until the pie has been consumed!!
      Please put it up for the states to vote on eliminating the 2nd Amendment. It is a RIGHT GRANTED to us to protect us from our government. Come get mine

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    • 00100111
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 2:28pm

      *sniff*…I smell a scared liberal. Ooh, look. It seems you’ve p*ssed yourself.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 7:47pm

      Larry the Liar 2,
      Obama wants to take from the makers, ( ie the snowman) and give to his minions, the lazy leeches, of all colors. The deadbeats, slackers, mouth breathers, trolls, miscreants, ball draggers, pipe junkies, fart swalowers, toilet gulpers. In order to rape, one must first have a physical advantage that cannot be overcome. So you see, we care not of your opinion when it espouses tyranny. We say put up or shut up.

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:34pm

    Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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  • ginger100
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:31pm

    That’s great to hear, how about the brass like Gen Mccrystal who believes civilians shouldn’t have them and who are working hand in hand with the administration?

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    • TADTAD
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:50pm

      Stanley McChrystal is against the 2nd Amendment? Ol’ Santy Claus is making that naughty and nice list…..

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    • barber2
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:59pm

      Wonder what the administration has on him?!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 7:51pm

      Tad,
      I like your attitude and your tactical prowess. We must all pre-acquire our targets and strike like lightning when the iron is hot. You sir, are a patriot.

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  • DarkestbeforeDawn
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:30pm

    We’ve been silent for to long
    As our freedoms slipped away.
    We towed the line while they played their games,
    Now the price we have to pay.

    Bow your heads and say a pray,
    then rally to the eagle’s cry
    It’s time to take our country back.
    Paul Revere it’s time to ride!

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  • DissenterKnight
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:29pm

    Amen

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  • omgfolks
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:29pm

    Disarming or restricitng americans from gun ownership is unconstitutional and all who seek to do ss should be arrested and tried for treason. I am sorry people have died because a PERSON used a gun to harm them. But the gun did not do it, THE PERSON DID. The gun did not make the desicion the PERSON did. To strip away the right under the constitution out fear only serves to prove why we should have the guns to begin with. I refuse to live life in fear, I refuse to be the victim simply because someone got hurt of killed with a gun, if this his reality then we must take away all knives, cars,trains planes, and anything esle which has caused death or harm to a person. That is the reality being pushed upon us by scared cowards to refuse to defend themselves and would rather live life afraid. The truth is that this is not about guns, its about controlling the american people and keeping them as subjects rather than free people. I am ashamed of our lawmakers who support gun control and at the same time afraid of what will happen should they succeed. The constitution is there for a reason, to dismantle it based on fear is the reason it was written in the first place so we do not have to live in fear of goverment or anyone else. To bad there are so many cowards in this nation who would rather live a subjects rather than free Americans. For all those who fought and dies I apologize that they want your sacrifice to mean nothing.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 30, 2013 at 8:05pm

      Not only should they be arrested, they should be either shot or hanged. Also, local officials should tell the feds to F off and seek volunteer non-active duty Marines and Soldiers to stand guard at schools. Not to act as policemen and break up fights and other crap but solely to confront armed gunmen and defeat them. 2 per school, properly equipped with boron carbide plate armor vests would suffice. Nothing less. Also, they should be armed with, at minimum, 6.8mm SPC AR type weapons that deliver superior terminal ballistic effects. And, if I were making the call, the projectiles would have sharpened tungsten dart cores capable of defeating class 3/4 armor vests. Sorry about the advanced ballistic lessons. I know it is too much for many to comprehend. But I must put it out there.

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  • Beachmastermax
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:28pm

    Even Pravda warns that Americans should never give up their guns.

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/pravda-tells-america-keep-your-guns/

    A newspaper that has already been thru the Obama-Marxist theory meatgrinder.

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:28pm

    The best defense is to put a fence around that insane asylum up North, Hollywood.

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