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America’s Disturbing History of Eugenics — the Details You May Find Difficult

Feb. 4, 2013 10:18pm Tiffany Gabbay

There are few chapters in history more bereft of humanity than the Holocaust, where Adolf Hitler sought to implement his “final solution” by way of mass genocide. What most do not realize, however, is that Eugenics, as a social movement and scientific application, was actually part of the American landscape long before it reached Germany.

In fact, American academia’s advocacy, and later the country’s use of genetic manipulation to purge society of its “undesirables” inspired the fuhrer.

In practice, Eugenicists’ first order of business in the late 18th and early 19th century was to identify society’s “degenerates.” Those deemed undesirable ranged from the mentally ill, handicapped, and the physically disabled (this included the blind and deaf), to the poor and uneducated, promiscuous women, homosexuals and certain racial groups — particularly Jews and blacks.

Once the unfit groups were sufficiently identified, institutionalization and euthanasia were two Eugenics-driven approaches to “solve the problem.” Advocates of the practice marketed it as a humane way to end suffering and ensure a fit and “healthy” society prevailed.

While even Alexander Graham Bell and Leonard Darwin (Charles Darwin’s son) sat on the earliest International Congress of Eugenics in 1912, it was Adolf Hitler and his Third Reich’s adoption of the practice that took this dark art and plunged it into unspeakable depths of depravity and barbarism.

Hitlers’ was the most “successful” Eugenics campaign to date, and began with something as rudimentary as a ”caliper” test to assess the broadness of one’s nose. To the Nazis, broad-noses equated to ethnic “inferiority” — in other words: ”life unworthy of life.” That sum comprised 6 million Jews, nearly 3 million Poles, an estimated 1 million Romany-gypsies, 15,000 homosexuals, at least 300,000 institutionalized disabled men, women and children and 400,000 more who were spared only to be forcibly sterilized.

Others erased from existence were Africans who had been brought to Germany by the French during the Allied occupation in World War I — many of whom married German women and produced what Hitler called the “Rhineland Bastards.”

The fuhrer laid out his plan in Mein Kampf, stating he would eliminate these “insults” on the German nation. Under the stewardship of Dr. Eugen Fischer, a group called “Commission Number 3″ was created to organize the forced sterilization of the Rhineland Bastards through Germany’s ”Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring.”

Throughout their crusade, the Nazis showed neither remorse nor mercy, and always presented their ethnic cleansing, just as the Americans had done before them, as a means for good. By ridding Germans of the societal, financial and, ultimately, genetic burden of the “undesirable,” and by ridding the undesirables of their “miserable” existence, the Germans maintained that theirs was actually an act of virtue.

Far from the shores of the Rhineland and some years prior to the Holocaust, however, Eugenics advocate Woodrow Wilson signed into law a sterilization act, and the following year Theodore Roosevelt wrote of the need to improve “racial qualities.” Even Calvin Coolidge, along with author Arthur Calhoun, acknowledged the role Eugenic-driven procreation would play “in the new social order.”

In “The Dark Roots of Eugenics,” Dr. Dennis L. Cuddy wrote that philanthropists like Andrew Carnegie and the Rockefeller family all financially buoyed the movement, and in the early 20th century John D. Rockefeller himself introduced Margaret Sanger – the founder of Planned Parenthood — to the rainmakers who would bankroll her Birth Control League.

Initially, this organization was not designed so much to empower women but as a vehicle for propping up the practice of Eugenics. Sanger was a staunch admirer of the Nazis, often incorporating articles from Nazi-doctors into her monthly publication, “The Birth Control Review.” Her own article, “A Race of Thoroughbreds,” offered sweeping praise of Eugenics and strongly condemned a society where the inferior were allowed to dwell.

In the end, through compulsory laws, some 60,000 people were sterilized in the U.S., rendering untold generations extinguished from future existence.

One author who has written extensively on this dark chapter in America history is Edwin Black, who appeared on Monday evening’s Glenn Beck Program to discuss the twisted practice and why he believes it could be poised to rear its ugly head once more. Black, whose parents were Holocaust survivors, also explained how Hitler was inspired by the Americans in this disturbing arena.

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kturn16
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:33am
The older I get, the more I read, the more I realize how truly brilliant our founding fathers were. If not All of us have a right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, then NO one will. For it is surely a slippery slope into hell.

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- THX-1138
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:56am
  @RedMeat
  
  I hope you were kidding but if not…
  
  Not even if it included people like you. That’s what makes us better than you; the insight that there but for the grace of God go I…(or from my view as a Buddhist; those people are there to teach us compassion, the most important thing in the universe…)
  
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- jungle J
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:11pm
  Red Meat…is obviously a progressive operative stirring the pot. Only the sane understand the depth of illusion the progressives have the power over.
  
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- Michael61
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:49pm
  “Being born in a duck yard does not matter, if only you are hatched from a swan’s egg.” – Hans Christian Andersen
  
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- rosegrower
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:00pm
  @Red Meat
  In many ways it is being practiced in the inner cities. If you notice, Chicago’s south side has a great murder rate going for it, but Rahm Emmanuel has told the Chicago police department to “stand down” on monitoring gangs and let some “community organizers” take care of the bangers. At the same time, Planned Parenthood established one of the largest abortion mills in Aurora, Illinois – it truly is a cathedral to this sacrament. And in NYC, Mayor Bloomberg authorized schools in the inner city to distribute “day after” pills to any girl that requests one. Progressives / leftists are basically eliminating the underclass by allowing it to abort / murder itself out of existence. The next goal will be to starve out Appalachia – or let meth take its toll there.
  
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- 22AUTOMATIC
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:08pm
  Below is a link to a progressive supremacist in the U.K that believes a mother should be able to smother her child to death at any age after birth if it is deemed to have any type of medical condition. I’ve seen more conscience in Michael Myers. One word…..Evil – Notice how shocked the other guests on the show are that she actually said what she said in public.
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/07/british-socialized-hc-official-some-premature-babies-should-be-left-to-die/
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:10pm
  ROSEGROWER……Appalachia is being wiped out by synthetic opiates…..the ‘new’ heroin. Oxy.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:23pm
  You theocrates can’t watch this video and tell me you’re “completely” against abortion or sterilization.
  In fact this video may change your mind.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E
  
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- steveinva
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:34pm
  Oxy is the entry level to heroin. Once the addicts can no longer afford to support their Oxy habit, they start snorting (a much cheaper) Heroin and then injecting once the law of diminshing returns takes over.
  
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- Red Meat
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:13pm
  @rosegrower
  
  I like the cut of your jib and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
  
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- JohnofOregon
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:34pm
  @redmeat,
  
  It already is in Oregon, it works like this;
  
  You get old and the kids don’t take care of you, so you are put under state care at a home. The state then becomes your next of kin because your kids would assume tax liability if the claimed that status. Assisted suicide law requires next of kin to consult with two medical professionals to off gramps. The state is now next of kin and health provider. The new family gets together and decides its best if grams quits living, it is the interest of the budget.
  
  The daughter shows up to visit mom and is told that she is gone. She then finds out mom was offed by staff under the law and the death certificate states its. The daughter who is a poorer minority living in Portland the decision was not hers. She is ruined for life, with guilt of letting state baeurucrats kill he mother.
  
  I go home from work and have a long talk with my wife, she is worried about this state. I make sure her mother can stay with us.
  
  People had better wake the hell up.
  
  Margaret Sanger founded planned parent hood to rid the world of what she thought were the inferior races. Gotta love those democrats.
  
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- John.Galt
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:06pm
  Amen! Unfortunately for lib-tards that buy the propaganda, they will be completely unprepared for the crash of the dollar. Strange that the same group of people think that some should be eliminated based on them being “derilicks,” but the people that actuall PRODUCE should have to carry the full load for all of the non-productive people.
  
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- ZengaPA65
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 9:05pm
  Eugenics is an Alex Jones windmill to joust, Beck stealing that now too?
  
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1FreeVoice
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:33am
I predict that at some point the technocrats will be sure that the science of genetic manipulation is sufficiently advanced that any parent who does not genetically modify their kid in the womb is guilty of child abuse… They will take the conservative argument that life starts at conception, and then say the parents are denying their kid treatment, and leaving him/her at a disadvantage…

Some time later they may be forced to admit that some of the techniques used were rather crude, and left an imprint on the genome that will be passed down through generations until they find a way to fix that…. Not to worry, science will prevail !! All hail the technocrats and their wisdom.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:39am
  Yeah sadly I know you are right.No doubt in my mind they are working on it and probaly perfected the scheme by now.They are just waiting to institute it.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:36pm
  “I predict that at some point the technocrats will be sure that the science of genetic manipulation is sufficiently advanced that any parent who does not genetically modify their kid in the womb is guilty of child abuse…”
  
  Actually good parents will not have a choice if they truly wish to make sure their children have an equal shot in the real world. If genetically altering your child to give them an advantage over non-modified children in life becomes the norm those not modified will be operating at a disadvantage. I doubt it will ever be viewed as abuse but the parents of those who do not modify them will almost certainly be dooming them to lesser lives. Like it or not survival of the fittest is still at work even in our modern society. When your competition is augmented to perform better than you are you will be out competed for the better jobs. It’s a sad fact of life. This is why sports tries to ban performance enhancing substances.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:15pm
  1FREEVOICE//
  I wrote this a while back, but its apropos here now:
  
  Posted on October 18, 2012 at 9:05pm
  
  “For this cause will God send upon them a great delusion, that they should believe a lie….”
  The ’cause’ is to get the left exposed for what they are; murderous anti-Christians.
  Somehow, these people are going to get organized, and really start to believe the great evils in their undisciplined lives, are actually caused by Christians…..like homosexuality would magically not be deviant if Christian people would not point out that God, himself, called it an abomination….or that abortion would not be murder if Christians would not maintain conception as the start of human beings. I did not say these people are deluded, God does, and takes responsibility for it.
  There was no written law, when Cain slew Abel, but the Lord called it murder, nonetheless. Cain ‘spiritually’ knew it was wrong. Ecclesiastes teaches us that there is nothing new under the sun. Human nature and the nature of God have NOT changed. Not one jot.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:46pm
  objectivetruth,
  You should change your name to ideological troll.
  Sanger in her own words said we wanted to ‘WEED OUT” the undesirables of which she refered to blacks,poor uneducated southern,jews and irish immigrants by name. She also agreed with george benard shaw(another big progressive)that gas chambers might be a painless way to euthanize some and that sterilaztion could also bring down the numbers even faster without alerting the unwanted.
  There are dozens of sights with sangers quotes on them if you want easy references.
  I’m sure you don’t but Ithought I ‘ld give you the chance to actually learn ……But I’m sure the facts are settled with you as you leftist never can admit errors. Go luck following the rest of the sheep
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:33pm
  @nauthycal
  No I’m not going to bother to spell your handle correctly.I’m not a troll.I’m also not like you going around calling people names for pointing out the truth.My point was what she started out as not what it evolved too.Anyway I’m not the mad hatter complaining bitterly about how someone is a lefty.Especially when they are not.Normally I also have the common decency when I go to the trouble that you did to call someone out to at least cite references.Hate to tell you sweetie anyone can claim anything.It doesn’t make it true.Unless it happened to you personally then it needs to be cited across multiple sources from mulitple backgrounds so as to prevent blind acceptence as its the truth.Remember the truth isn’t always what you want it to be nor will it always fit your little scenarios.Should I apologize for knowing the true beginnings of Sangers work as well as the later?You know before she was corrupted or bribed.
  Unfortunately you are one who refuses to learn from history.You refuse to see history in its full form.Its why you will continue to repeat it.
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:44pm
  Have you ever seen the movie “Gattaca” ? The title comes from an arrangements of proteins in a gene string.
  
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- Uriel
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:14pm
  They call themselves transhumanists. The modern eugenics.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_transhumanism
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism#Genetic_divide
  
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Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:15am
As usual, TheBlaze can’t get enough of traducing Margaret Sanger. She was initially flattered by the Nazis’ interest in eugenics, but quickly realized what they were up to and forcefully and repeatedly denounced their practices of ethnic persecution and, later, mass extermination.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:30am
  Originally she had nothing to with them.They attempted to contact her and use her.She knew what they were up to.She wanted no parts of it.They attempted to latch onto her like flys to a glue trap.The disinformation of the damn nazis are still in existence.She advocated birth control.She went out of her way to make it available in a time when the poorest couldn’t afford it.She contrary to popular opinion didn’t advocate sterilization nor abortion as a means to an end.She truly believed that families should be the ones to make the choice.With the use of birth control abortion would become far less necessary.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:38am
  ObjectiveTruth–what is someone with a name like that doing on TheBlaze?:)
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:02pm
  Sanger died thinking it was perfectly fine to kill a child in the womb.
  
  That’s the only fact I need to know about her.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:22pm
  objectivetruth
  
  How Planned Parenthood Duped America
  
  At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the “black” and “yellow” peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger’s American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.
  
  Sanger’s other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as “scientific” and “humanitarian.” And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America’s human “breeding stock” and purging America’s “bad strains.” These “strains” included the “shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South.”
  
  Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as “unfit,” a plan she said would be the “salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were “irresponsible and reckless,” among whom she included those ” whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers.” She further contended that “there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of t
  
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- ManassasGrandma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:32pm
  Not true. Sanger was an enthusiastic ( and equal opportunity) eugenics proponent her whole life. She hated blacks, american indians and irish catholic immigrants.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:39pm
  objectivetruth:
  
  You can try all you like but you can’t hide her own words. The woman was a eugenics proponent. She was pretty a disgusting person. Stop trying to make her out to be something she clearly was not.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:58pm
  Yes Margaret Sanger advocated abortion for those who wanted one.She also advocated sterilization by choice.The eugenics movement infiltrated her original work.So to did the nazis.Its why all of you on here still think she was in bed originally with the nazis and eugenics movements.Its why I said the nazi movement is still proving its own disinformation campaign.My comment is about what her original work was about.Not what others who took over made it into.She became their scapegoat.Yes she did play along to a degree as they held the purse strings.Maybe after awhile she began to believe it herself.
  From what I read she didn’t like them and after awhile disavowed them.As soon as she was able to secure funding for her project elsewhere.
  Look maybe I’m not the one to argue this.I belong to vird.We are the polar opposite of the nazis.We belive in free will and science.The individual is the one to make the decision not everyone else.
  VIRD Voluntary intelligent reproductive design.
  
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- BellaMia7
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Margaret Sanger was invited to speak at a meeting of the Klu Klux Klan in New Jersey. They even put her up overnight.
  ““I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan…I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses…In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.” (Sanger pg. 366 of her autobiography)
  
  “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” So said Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Seventy-eight percent of Planned Parenthood clinics are in black neighborhoods. Blacks make up only 12% of the population, but 35% of America’s aborted babies are black. Half of black pregnancies end in abortion. Is this an intentional genocide? ”
  
  http://www.redstate.com/wsullivan/2012/02/16/sanger-the-ku-klux-klan-and-planned-parenthood/
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:09pm
  @bellamia7
  What you brought up is part of what I have been saying.Sangers work was taken over by other more powerful causes with a much more insidious purpose.Sangers work originally wasn’t a color issue nor a genocidal one.Please remember that in that day we were in the industrial revolution.Many people of all colors and classes moved to cities for work.Its easier to work and live with fewer children.She worked as a midwife.She knew that women didn’t want the number of children they were having.They told her that themselves.She started out trying to help these women.It snowballed badly.I don’t disagree with that.I’m just tired of everyone blaming Sanger singlehandidly for what transpired.Its tantamount to saying hitler was the sole party to the nazi cause and that he did everything by himself.I’m sorry if you thought or felt that I condoned all her practices.It really wasn’t about that at all.It was to put perspective on the issue.For what its worth you brought me some perspective as well.Her later work I sort of skimmed over.For one main reason the nazis tried to take over every idea to justify themselves.They always tried to hold the purse strings.I assumed she played the role to obtain the money without really believing it.Expecially since as soon as she could she broke away from them.Obviously the thoughts were genuine rather than contrived.
  
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- DannyBoy13
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:50am
  However, her words didn’t match her actions… The mark of a progressive.
  
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DesertRose1960
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:09am
This article is a prime example of guilt by assocition, fearmongering, deliberate misrepresation and good, old fashioned outright lies. First, Al Gore was talking about the differences scientists have seen between thought processing between Liberals and Conservatives. Conservatives tend to have larger amygdalas and to process thoughts in a binary manner: good-bad, black-white, fight-flight, etc. Liberals tend to have larger anterior cingulate cortexes and to think in shades of gray versus black and white. The stuff about Henry Ford coming from Mr. Black are misdirection and fearmongering.
http://www.livescience.com/17534-life-extremes-democrat-republican.html

Margaret Sanger did believe that eugenics, by preventing people with low IQs or hereditary diseases from reproducing, could make life better for all of us. She would be in favor of what is now called “genetic counseling” but in those days was called “eugenics”. She was not a Nazi-sympathizer nor did she believe in Black genocide. Those are crazy things you find on the internet, they quote mine and cherry pick and flat out invent stuff and then say that Sanger was bad or evil for wanting all women, poor and wealthy, to be able to control the number of pregnancies and children that they experienced. Smaller families meant healthy babies.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/secure/newsletter/articles/sanger-hitler_equation.html

Beck is once again lying to his audience to demonize and smear Liberals fo

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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:58am
  LOL…..oh look…Obama propagandist TOKYOROSE has farted her latest scrubbing and sanitizing of liberal shortcomings onto the boards.
  
  Black and white huh?
  
  Let’s talk about Obama’s “Czar of Science” John Holdren for a better illustration of liberal “black and white”.
  First of all…Holdren was a proponent of Man Made Global Cooling in the 1970′s..but that didnt’ work out so he became a proponent of Man Made Global Warming instead.
  In his book “Ecoscience” academic elitist and “it’s for your own good” proponent Holdren said:
  “All the children who are born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room be made for them by the death of grown persons.” Let’s take a moment and let that sink in..Holdren supports forced abortions or the death of “grown persons” for his eugenicist aspirations on population control. He is also under the delusion that the constitution allows him to do this.
  Perhaps TOKYOROSE can tell us all what the difference is between the eugenics of Sanger’s “make life better for all of us” and Holdren’s Gaia hugging “population to a desired level”? The desired level of course is determined by whatever liberal academic elitist de jour says it is to be.
  This is not unique to Holdren, the left has been singing about population control to save the planet for years now.
  But let’s discuss Rahm Emanuel’s brother, Ezekeil (Zeke) in my next post and
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:07am
  Here’s Zeke Emanuel’s (brother of Chicago Mayor and Obama Chief of Staff Rahm) idea of “could make life better for all us” as TOKYOROSE likes to bleat. It just dawned on me…maybe Rahm doesn’t care about all the black youth dying in Chicago because he embraces his own eugenics programme like his brother?
  Anyway…here’s what Zeke has to say about the value of the elderly to society:
  “Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years.”…..Yes you read that correctly. Zeke believes the elderly don’t deserve the medical care “25 year olds” should get because they’re not worth it. And please don’t miss the “by sex or race” component of his eugenics aspirations either.
  By the way Zeke was an advisor on Obamacare. This is not conspiracy non-sense..this is fact.
  
  So TOKYOROSE..let’s talk about black and white, amygdalas and republicans and democrats shall we? It appears some of the most prominent lefty thinkers see things very much in black and white when it comes to controlling the population and eugenics. There no grey area in what Holdren and Emanuel (to name but two lefties) believe should be done.
  
  Now..get on your knees and scrub and clean for Obama some more sweetie.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:17am
  By the way TOKYOROSE…seriously…we’re to take Algore’s opinion on “science” as if he hasn’t made a fortune on the pseudo-science of AGW?
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:47am
  ROSIE
  Based upon the findings, it suggests liberals need to employ conservative thinking to save them from themselves. But it also sheds some light on why liberals are fond of viewing conservatives as unwilling to “progress” as they would want and why they generally view the Republican Party as the party of “No!”.
  The other message here is that liberals cannot be reasoned with because they are inherently incapable of seeing the other side which is often pointing them to the error of their thinking.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:14pm
  Desertrose said”Beck is once again lying to his audience to demonize and smear Liberals”
  There is no way that beck or any one else could degrade liberals(like you) more, than your own words do. My My My…..you sure do have a high opinion of yourself. You WILL be schooled.
  
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- Owt_Raged
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:23pm
  You do realize that many of us read history, long before it was cleansed and re-written on the internet.
  
  Try reading something written 50 or 60 years ago, in it’s original form, not today’s fluffed up version.
  
  Sanger offered abortions only to the poor, even though you couldn’t legally get one even if you were rich. There are lots of original texts with her words in them. She wasn’t trying to help anyone, at least not the people YOU think she was helping. She was trying to stop the reproduction of people SHE felt were not worthy. Unfortunately, all she did was create an atmosphere where the general public thinks it’s a good idea to kill children.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:42pm
  You just showed us The Blaze is not lying about what this woman stood for. Your denial is adorable.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Oh! and get it right. We are talking about PROGRESSIVES not liberals. They are two very different animals. It’s pretty sad how people have forgotten what a liberal is. The progressives have done a great job of hijacking that label.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:26pm
  AVENGERK made mention of a part of the brain called AMYGDALA:
  
  Shown to play a key role in the processsing of emotions, the amygdala forms part of the limbic system.
  
  In humans and other animals, this subcortical brain structure is linked to both fear responses and pleasure.
  
  Its size is positively correlated with aggressive behavior across species.
  
  In humans, it is the most sexually-dimorphic brain structure, and shrinks by more than 30% in males upon castration.
  
  Conditions such as anxiety, autism, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and phobias are suspected of being linked to abnormal functioning of the amygdala, owing to damage, developmental problems, or neurotransmitter imbalance.
  
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Blitz
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:43am
Enter Planned parenthood to carry the torch forward. Modern day death camps.

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- andrew36
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:07am
  If you dont know the difference between aborting a foetus and killing people because they dont meet your idea of an ideal human then you are a F(*&^%$# idiot.
  
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- Force2bewreckin
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:09am
  Bill Gates is one of the biggest eugenics supporters on the planet. The vaccines he is giving this kids in Africa are not helping them. Read his words about population control then ask yourself why he would be helping the poor in Africa? He is honing his death vaccines. He also owns a massive chunk of Monsanto.
  
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- term limits for congress
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:13am
  They are taxpayer-funded women’s health camps.
  
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- daver18
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:25am
  Andrew 36 – Since there isn’t a “reply” button on your post I’ll have to reply to you here. The difference is nothing because taking an innocent life is taking an innocent life. If you are still of the antiquated belief that has long since been shown to be wrong that a baby in the womb isn’t human, then I feel sorry for you. The taking of all the innocent babies’ lives since Roe v. Wade in America will be one of the main causes of our demise.
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:27am
  So whose life is worth more – unborn baby that we don’t know who are what it will be (maybe the one that cures cancer) or a dimwitted liberal moron!
  
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- Baerlin
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:15pm
  To Andrew – Both are murder so there is no difference. Abortion is choosing which human get a chance at life. The baby has no choice. M Sanger was a big proponent of racial cleansing and purity and she advocated killing blacks. Read up on your history before it is completely redacted.
  
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Uriel
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:35am
They don’t call it eugenics anymore, they call it TRANSHUMANISM.

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Shamrock241
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:15am
Question? If the progressive’s are determined to rid America of Blacks and other undisirable’s why do they keep immigrating more of them into our country from the third world?

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- CABERNETQHS
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:44am
  Votes. They will put them in power, then be exterminated.
  
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- LeFaux Jew
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:51am
  Votes.
  Hitler befriended Jews early on.
  
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- sjpru
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:01am
  …to get elected and stay in power…democrats now believe they are in power forever…they no longer need blacks because obama has just given them an endless supply of illegal aliens…blacks will be left to self-destruct in housing projects of welfare, drugs, addiction, ignorance, aids, gangbangers, babymommas and murder…the illegals will be left to self-destruct once the constitution has been destroyed and president-for-life is chosen.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:12am
  Who told you that “progressives” wanted to eliminate blacks from American society? You are confusing today’s progressives with those of a hundred years ago. In case you missed the reference to Calvin Coolidge, please reread. In the early 20th century eugenicist ideas were common coin among both reformers and conservatives.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:37am
  In the old days it was refered to as side show stepping.It has other names as well.They make the target audience believe that they are completely safe from harm.That its a good thing.next thing you know poof bye bye either by death or interment.The muslims practice it today its known as Taqiyya .
  
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Flyingfish
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:53am
The only Eugenics program I support is the reintroduction of the sabre-tooth cat into North America. That’ll thin out the population a bit and bring up the health of the herd a couple notches.

“If you don’t do your chores and get your home work done you’ll have to WALK to school tomorrow.”

(Children get really busy as the sound of a feral roar can be heard in the distance.)

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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:00am
  Lol!
  
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- CloudNine
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:04pm
  Excellent comment. But wait, what will happen to those “unarmed”? Oh yea, I think I just heard the dinner bell…ding-a-ling!!!
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:57pm
  @OBJECTIVETRUTH>>>>I hope, for YOUR sake, that your previous comment was sarcasm.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:47pm
  @max jones
  Please reference which comment .More importantly why did you reply to a post in the wrong column.
  Oh and yes I would love to see a saber tooth cat alive.Hate to say it though in a few months one of its kittens would find its way to my door.Yes even though I shouldn’t I’d probaly feed it and take it in.
  
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VetMike
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:27am
My mind simply cannot grasp this. But then I look at the list of people who supported this idea and I begin to gain some insight into their mindset.

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GUYFROMMAINE
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:16am
WOW! People like X_O_T_Z show how evil and dark evolution and eugenics are! Apparently, we can accept murder as long as we give it some nice, flowery words. Abortion is murder. It is denying the God-given privilege of life to another human being. If you start compromising and believeing the lies that a baby in the womb is worthless or less human, you are on the same level as Hitler. Would those who support abortion (and I might add, contraceptives) have a problem with what Hitler did if he had just aborted 6 million Jews? He got rid of “undesirables”; those who abort are getting rid of “undesirables.” Same thing.

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- andrew36
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:27am
  Aother f*(&^% idiot, yes they would have a problem with hitler forcing 6000000 jews to have an abortion because he is FORCING then to have an abortion, Pro Choice is not about forcing a woman to have a abortion but letting then decide if they are ready or capable of bringing a baby into the world and looking after it. FFS noone is aborting babies because of there colour, there religion, or because of the size of there nose (read article), as hitler was doing. So by your logic then all pro choice people would be more then happy to send all jews, muslims, black and whoever else we dont find appealing to the gas chamber. If you cant see the difference between what hittler done and abortion you really are a sick person. So your against concaceptive and your against abortion so let me guess, your a a guy and your the first one to whinge about parents not looking after there kids and the first one to complain about parents geting to much social security to look after there kids, and on top of that I bet your more then happy to go to war and kill 100,000′s of people.
  
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- amtsoundsmith
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:26am
  Andrew36- “Pro Choice is not about forcing a woman to have a abortion but letting then decide if they are ready or capable of bringing a baby into the world and looking after it.” Have you ever heard of adoption? It’s a very strange and new concept to pro-abortion folks like yourself. I guess it’s just easier to kill your “problems”. Right?
  
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- amtsoundsmith
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:30am
  Andrew36- Here’s another new concept for you; spell check.
  
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- strawberry411a
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:46pm
  Birth control starts in the bed Andrew..not after the fact: Can’t afford a child, then don’t engage in sexual intercourse. I am constantly amazed at the left’s definition of choice. There is no sense even debating the issue with you anymore. We are on different planets.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:58pm
  amtsoundsmith, how many children have you adopted?
  Let me know when you’ve cleared the backlog.
  
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- GUYFROMMAINE
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:01pm
  @Andrew
  Touch a nerve did I? The woman “choosing” to abort a baby has as much right to do it as Hitle “chose” to run Germany. He, and others forced their sick,evil, and twisted will onto others. The mother going to an abortion clinic is forcing her will on a baby. In the mother’s eyes, that baby is an inconvience, an undesirable, a problem in her life. So she will just get rid of it. Gee, couldn’t that be part of the motive behind all murders.
  You are partly right on your surmises. I do feel that you should not have children unless you are going to be a responsible parent. Those who have kids for the government benefits they get are not responsible parents. You don’t want kids, then don’t have sex. An innocent human being that cannot defend itself should not be murdered simply because it is in the way. That mentality is truly sick and no better than what the Nazis did.
  
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- GUYFROMMAINE
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:08pm
  @Andrew
  Also, for you and anyone else who disagrees with me and thinks me an idiot or worse— If my love for those in the womb bothers you, if my voice for their protection and right to life angers you, if my speaking up for those who as yet cannot do it is a problem for you, than yes…. I’m an idiot and proud of it. I will continue to be an idiot for those who deserve to live and for those who have been murdered in the womb.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:09pm
  @strawberry
  You are right you can’t debate him.He makes sense you sure as hell don’t.Birth control does start before the act.However birth control fails sometimes.Oh just don’t have sex.I can see you aren’t married or your husband is one frustrated joker.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:31pm
  Adoption is not a solution.You whom your god has choosen to be sterile need to accept your fate in life.Stop using other womens wombs as though they were human incubators.Your god doesn’t look favorably apun thieves and kidnappers.Of which most adopters are.Actually more akin to zombie creators.
  Adoption is living death.God help you murdering thieves.Hope all those children you adopted grow up and kill you.They finally see what monsters you really are.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:37pm
  ANDREW…..and you will be the first to father a few more undesirable babies, that can be aborted without qualm.
  I guess you are thinking ahead….making sure some body cleans up your potentially expensive mess.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:27pm
  objectivetruth
  Wait a minute. You’re against abortion and against adoption? So you’re for children being raised by unfit parents? You think that it’s so important to punish people for being careless in their sexual habits that you don’t care if their innocent children are punished even more harshly?
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:54pm
  @Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  I never said that I was anti abortion.I’m against abortion for convience in the second and third trimesters.I relent on the second trimesters due to some woment not having regular cycles.I am anti adoption all the way.Vehemently anti adoption.As far as I’m concerned they are nothing more than thieving connivng soul murdering monsters.In colussion with the state as their accessory.They see women as human incubators.
  To be used and abused at their discretion.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:21pm
  Okay then. I guess that clears that up. But might I suggest that you rethink your screen name? I’m not entirely sure that calling adoptive parents soul murdering monsters who abuse women technically qualifies as objective truth. Most people would tend to see that as more of a subjective matter of opinion.
  
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begreen
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:18am
Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh ” Thank God for abortion!” you say?

Stupid God does not condone murder.

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pwatkins
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:01am
The progressives are now reversing the eugenics attitude by using black and brown races as part of the in-crowd in attempt to make them think they are getting back at the wrongs done to them in the past. Sadly many are falling for it. It isn’t so much the disabled or a particular race today as much as those having the same train of thought. They care nothing for the unborn because they don’t yet have a voice and the progressives only want to hear their message repeated and if you can’t or won’t you are unfit for their idea of the perfect society..This below is frightening because it is training our college students for a much more dangerous future than the NRA ever intended. These progressives don’t care if you die by gunfire or poor health. They just want you to follow them into their Utopian future and know we God-fearing citizens of the US are not.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/29/16726198-anticipating-domestic-boom-colleges-rev-up-drone-piloting-programs

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- Annirich
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:08pm
  Read up on the “Complete Life Systems” part of Obocare and devised by Dr. Zeke Emmanuel, Rahm’s brother. Babies and seniors are expendable. Rationing is very much a part of the Obocare. Stupid, ignorant, uninformed progressives, you have not only killed our country but you are going to killing our people.
  
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Mike76
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:44am
I applaud Glenn Beck and The Blaze for discussing a topic that they relentlessly ridicule Alex Jones for talking about. Anyone else talks about eugenics and the link to America’s political and industrial elite families, and they are tin-foil hat wearing nuts. Glenn Beck talks about eugenics and the link to America’s political and industrial elite families, and he is a prophet of God, sent to enlighten us all.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:55am
  No not all who speak of eugenics and america as the catylst are considered nuts tin foil hat wearers.Nor have they ever been.Ask anyone who was raised in Virginia.You know we produced Robert Plecker.Whom Hitler even said was his inspiration.Most people don’t kinow this but one of the reasons it seemed that there ws so much alledged inbreeding in the western part of the state.Our court officials began plecker prevention on paper.Anyone that sounded like they had a native american name changed their name to a european one.If you were married it was changed to the most european sounding one.It seemed that families were interbreeding when in fact they weren’t.Plecker hated native americans with a passion.The only reason the one sixteenth rule was formulated was due to pochantas.Well guess what you couldn’t turn over a stone and not find native american in the families here.Especially in the western part.
  I quote Today is the day the lies begin.We must defeat plecker any way we can.Evil to the soul.Maybe history won’t shine favorbly on us for these lies.Still tis better than the consequence we would recieve.Alas I hope I.m not caught.I will surely hang.For I would be the first I would have to issue a warrant against The abbreviation is looked at as a middle name.For it is not.It is the shortened version of my married name.Too long for paper.I the issurer of bonds and warrants are married to a full blooded native american.How I do hate Plecker.
  This is taken from a private di
  
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Robert Hawk
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:18am
Eugenics is nothing more than applied dialectics. Its based on Darwins application of dialectics upon the human (supposed animal) population. It used to be called survival of the fittest. Every single Marxist-Leninist who rises to power as a dictator (aka Mr Obama) eventually turns to eugenics as their methodology for eliminating those who they judge as personally unfit for life. Since Marxist-Leninist do not believe in the Lord God of Israel, they take it upon themselves to decide who has the right to live under their dictatorship.
Hitler and the national socialists (marxist-leninists) took the same exact actions in Germany, The only reason it was not successful here is because the government did not have absolute control over health care… but now as Hitler did … they do. This is how the issue of Social Security gets resolved boys and girls and its how the government eliminates all of those on its welfare roles. Keep watching because eugenics quickly turns into government directed euthanasia. They will be termed “Mercy Killings” Just as they were in Germany

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- jeff1158
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:04pm
  You just helped me realize why they are not that worried about Social Security debt. The same with welfare. Eugenics will solve our debt and entitlement problems all at the same time. Oh, I forgot the mental health screening for gun ownership. Round up the crazies. It is truly hard to think this way. I guess humans have treated each this way other thoughout history. I am so thankful for my Savior, Jesus Christ. I wish we did not treat each other this way.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:45pm
  HAWK…those fema camps(which by the way are ready, now) are there for “a reason”.. The guillotines are ready also. There ARE devils among us, and they are smart. But, not wise. They are powerful, but not invincible. They are ‘advanced’, but, devoid of normal human emotions.
  The only thing XOTZ is lacking is scriptural references.
  There is a level of mental (spiritual) development that is fatal to the soul….God’s children won’t go there………
  
  “The thinker, thinks he thinks, that is his error.”
  The mark of the Beast is ”IN” the forehead…….Fill your soul up with yourself, and there is no place for the Holy spirit.to lite.
  This IS the miraculous “Gospel Armor” Christ promised.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:57pm
  aiello78
  Yes, of course. When I was in my mother’s womb I was expendable. I was not yet a person. I had no mind and no rights. It would have been morally and ethically acceptable to kill me.
  
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kentuck
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:01am
From the tape they showed on the show tonight it sounded like Al bore was hinting at selective breeding and selective baby deaths in the hospital nursery to rid America of conservatives.

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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:58pm
  aiello78
  Yes, of course. When I was in my mother’s womb I was expendable. I was not yet a person. I had no mind and no rights. It would have been morally and ethically entirely acceptable to kill me.
  
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kentuck
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:22am
Life begins when the heart starts beating. Murder starts when the heart stops beating. Abortion IS murder.
How many aborted babies could have grown up to be the scientist that cured cancer ?
There are so many “needed” how many could haves.
What if Mary had aborted Jesus ?
I’m not religious by no means but I know what’s right and wrong !

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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:40am
  We may or may not have prevented the birth of a few people who would have been important and done something great, but we have certainly prevented the birth of many more murderers and robbers and rapists. Common sense tells us that a baby born to parents who want him and are prepared to care for him has a better chance of ending up doing something worthwhile, while a baby born to parents who never want him, but were just too stupid and irresponsible to consider the consequences of their actions is in greater danger of going down a wrong path. So, the more abortions we have, the better the ratio of good people to bums, and the better off we all are. Thank God for abortion!
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:58am
  XLLIAB: You really must be kidding. One need not live long to see that great men and women often rise out of squalor while those born into wealth often display the worst in terms of character. Besides the ideas you post here are so worn out. Read a book. I advise you to first read the Bible, but no doubt I’ve just cast a pearl where it won’t be appreciated. How about Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. You’ll find out where your ideas come from. In any case you need to leave the herd and make something out of your mind because right now you are walking cliche’.
  
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- kentuck
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:11am
  XLLIAB
  I know of several people that were born in coal camps here in Ky. Families that couldn’t afford to feed another mouth. Should they have been aborted ?
  My Grandfather was one , he made his own way starting work for the RR when he was 13. He died owning the biggest farm in this part of the state.
  Another one that I know of is a doctor and song writer. He was an ER doctor for 25 years … saved countless lives.
  Should they have been aborted because they were born into poor families in the hollows digging coal with no hope of a better life ?
  
  Then again you may have a valid argument for abortion , why were you not aborted ?
  
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  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:16am
  Great men and women “often” rise out of squalor only in the sense that when there are millions of people born every year anything that could possibly happen, even if the odds against it are a million to one, will happen “often.” I certainly agree that people born into wealth often display the worst in terms of character, that’s why I didn’t say anything about wealth as a reason to have or not have a child. I did refer to “parents who want him and are prepared to care for him” which as far as I’m concerned excludes rich people who allow their children to be cared for by servants just as much as it does poor or negligent people who allow their children to be cared for by nobody. The most important factor is that a child who is wanted is better off than an unwanted child. Nothing you say can refute my main contention that more abortion will yield a better ratio of good people to bad or worthless ones, because it is obviously true to anybody who thinks about it objectively.
  
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- kentuck
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:33am
  I almost agree to the point of drug addicts getting abortions as their kids are addicts from birth and they should also be the ones to get sterilized. But I still think that every life deserves a chance. It’s that “one in a million” that may be the second coming …. but like I said , I’m not religious but I do try to see all points of view.
  My wife couldn’t have kids so I look at the birth of a child as a good thing , not something to be aborted.
  That’s right , I have to mow my own yard !
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:49am
  XLLIAB
  By your comments you are playing with fire.
  Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations”
  
  Thus only God has the right to kill!
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:58am
  Xylliab: “Nothing you say can refute my main contention that more abortion will yield a better ratio of good people to bad or worthless ones, because it is obviously true to anybody who thinks about it objectively.”
  
  All you have done is make an assertion based on very questionable, to be kind, math. You haven’t made a rational argument. You can’t prove that bad people come from bad homes or good people come from good homes. It is often the opposite. In fact you really can’t discuss good or bad anything just because you have appointed yourself the arbiter of what is good and bad. You have no basis for the determining what is good or bad except your own opinion. Which is clearly held in less and less regard the more you post. I think your public statement that 53 million deaths is a good thing because you can have more space and more stuff is sufficiently damning. You have taken their blood onto your hands. Like SUNTZUYOU said rather succinctly–”Just sick.”
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:33am
  I can’t prove that ALL bad people come from bad homes or ALL good people come from good homes, because that isn’t true and I never said it was. It is often the opposite, but it would have to be more often the opposite for me to be wrong and you to be right. Can you make that case? Can you prove that being raised by stupid, irresponsible parents is an advantage that makes you more likely to be good and successful? Can you prove that being wanted is a disadvantage that makes you more likely to go astray. Of course not because it couldn’t possibly be true and every known fact and statistic supports the belief that it is not true. I made an assertion based on math that is absolutely unquestionable, and is, therefore, an entirely rational argument.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:01am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  Do human beings have value? What gives human beings value? Is it that one needs a certain IQ ? Or is it a level of money if so how much? Is it the color of one’s skin or eyes? Who gets to determines that? How about considering the fact one is loved by God Hmm now that’s real value.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:28am
  Human beings have value because we have human minds which are superior to those of lower animals. You stat to develop a human mind right after you are born and begin to perceive the world by means of your senses and try to understand it. This is why enlightened people say that human babies are people with rights of their own, but a fetus is not yet a person and can be culled for the benefit of those of us who are already people. It may have a brain that is physically capable of human thought, but it has nothing to think about, so it is not yet able to form a human mind and has no more of a right to life than a pig or a mosquito.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:25am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh Who gave you the authority to say when life begines ? You said acting like you belive in God but attack His word” Thou shall not kill.”
  
  Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations”
  
  Thus only God has the right to kill!
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:01am
  We both have a right to say what is good and what is evil. Neither of us has the authority to make anyone else pay attention to what we say. No one person has the final say; we have to work out a consensus together. That’s what society is. It’s a messy and imperfect process, but we are social animals, so we have to do the best that we can.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:19am
  I didn’t say anything about when life begins. I said that human life becomes something of greater value than other forms of life when you start to think. I said that you start to think after you are born and for all practical purposes that is true. It is possible that you receive some limited sensory input in the womb sparking rudimentary thought, so it is generally preferable not to kill a fetus that only has a month or two of gestation remaining if you can avoid doing so. However, a fetus can’t possibly be smarter than a pig, which is the smartest animal that is routinely eaten by humans, so you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do and there’s no use losing sleep over it. We all have to kill to live unless you want to try to survive on synthetic nutrients instead of eating food. “Thou shall not kill” only applies to people. God never told me that fetuses are people, and I see no reason to believe that He really told Jeremiah any such thing either.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:32am
  How many aborted babies could have grown up to be the scientist who cured cancer? I don’t know. How many could have grown up to be the next Charles Manson or Ted Bundy?
  
  Leave it up to the mother.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:17am
  @Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Were you born or hatched?Your arguments aren’t based on math nor equations.That is merely a ruse to cover the fact that you can’t argue on a moral legal basis.You don’t believe that the unborn have souls or are capable of thought.I don’t see where you draw the line in the gestation period.Wheres your math there?Can you eveb tell me the difference between a zygoat and a fetus?You make the claim that man is so superior to animals.Really based on what I ve experienced I’d say the human race would do well to evolve to the civility of a house cat.They are in that respect far more superior.Least they don’t eat their own unless there is real cause unlike humans.
  We see you have no problem having a third trimester abortion for convience rather than medical reasons.
  Couldn’t even fake a set of morals there either could you.Hum just get over it.Well even those who are prochoice haven’t don’t and won’t just get over it because you say so there princess.
  Your arguments for being prochoice aren’t arguments they are regime talking points.You have been played and used as a mouth piece by them.How does it feel to not be able to think for yourself.Your arguments about the betterment of society and the numbers you spouted off show your lack of critical thinking.You are inherently selfish to a detriment.I could write a book as to why its harder to make a living today.Its not just the number of people its far more complex than that.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:36pm
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  So it’s clear you avoid the question when life begins? You base one’s worth if a person has value? Well again who has that authority to make that call? if it’s me and I go by your reasoning which is only subjective then might makes right . Therefore I say you needed to be aborted! That way the preborn will have a better chance to survive with you out of the way. Now I call that wonderful good deed..
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:18pm
  [How many aborted babies could have grown up to be the scientist that cured cancer ?]
  Mostly likely none. The likely hood of them growing up to vote for more wealth distribution is much much more probable.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:09pm
  X_O_T_Z_
  
  Generalizes much.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:18pm
  X_O_T_C_ has no belief, that he was divinely created, has a soul, or has any value beyond the temporal.
  How could he have any respect for anything or anybody….He’s a thinker, rational….cold. Dead.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:07pm
  objectivetruth
  Humans rarely literally eat their own offspring. House cats are often not as nice to each other as they are to us. Housecats will never develop art or science and the objective truth is that those are the only things that we can objectively prove make us different from other animals. If you think that I am not thinking for myself tell me the name of one other person who advances the same arguments that I do. As far as I can tell, most people who identify themselves as pro-choice are much too cowardly to say that abortion is good and the more of it we have, the better.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:12pm
  begreen
  I avoid the question when life begins because it is a stupid, meaningless question. Mosquitoes and slime molds have life but they don’t have a right to not be killed by us. Human life becomes of value when it develops the characteristics that make humans different from other life forms. I don’t believe that might makes right . I believe that all people have a right to live, but fetuses aren’t people yet because they haven’t begun to develop human minds.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:17pm
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  So according to you one needs a human mind to be alive? Well my question is who gets to judge when that has started? I find two problems with kind of thinking. !st the baby is only if the child can think? So what? Who made this rule as the ultimate criteria to say if one is alive or not. Who has given you that type of authority? I think if it’s growing it’s alive I don’t care if its a single cell or a bug or like if I see grass growing thst’s enought for me if it’s growing it’s alive. Thus at that point only God has the right to interveine.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:29pm
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Some of the world’s most prominent scientists and physicians testified to a U.S. Senate committee that human life begins at conception:
  
  A United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee invited experts to testify on the question of when life begins. All of the quotes from the following experts come directly from the official government record of their testimony.1
  
  Dr. Alfred M. Bongiovanni, professor of pediatrics and obstetrics at the University of Pennsylvania, stated:
  
  “I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception…. I submit that human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood and that any interruption at any point throughout this time constitutes a termination of human life….
  
  I am no more prepared to say that these early stages [of development in the womb] represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty…is not a human being. This is human life at every stage.”
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:21pm
  “So according to you one needs a human mind to be alive?”
  No, one needs a human mind to have a right to not be killed. The grass is alive, but cutting it is not murder. We squash bugs and eat pigs, so life is not sacred just because it is life. If we are going to treat human life as something more than other kinds of life, that distinction has to be based on what really makes human life different from other kinds of life. That is our minds. A fetus doesn’t have a human mind because though it has the equipment to think, it has nothing to think about. As soon as it is born, it begins t o receive data about the world around it by means of its senses. It has something to think about, so it has at least the beginning of a human mind that is different from all other human minds.
  
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- aiello78
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:42pm
  XYLLIAB
  When you were in your mother’s womb, were you expendable? Were you human regardless of development?
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:05am
  @Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  [As soon as it is born, it begins to receive data about the world around it by means of its senses.]
  As soon as higher neurological functions develop they are receiving “data”. I doubt YOU would drill a hole the head of a premature child in an incubator simply because it was 10 weeks too early.
  
  @aiello78
  [When you were in your mother’s womb, were you expendable? Were you human regardless of development?]
  This argument doesn’t work. “Oh gee, if your parents didn’t get together were you human regardless of their relationship.” Like, what would he care if he wasn’t here. Or who would he be if he was conceived two weeks earlier or two weeks later. That person isn’t here to answer that!
  
  Both pro-life and pro-choice zealots are wrong. This is NOT a black and white issue. We live in an age of science, not dogmatic ignorance based on religious or political BS. We know when higher neurological activity starts. Certainly not at conception or after birth.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 5:15am
  A premature baby has been born so it is a person. It’s not just a matter of neurological development. The formation of a mind depends on being able to perceive something worth thinking about.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 11:10am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh, I don’t know how else to put it but you’re either an imbecile or a troll. This isn’t a game of peekaboo in which “I don’t see you, I’m going to kill you.” If someone can’t figure out they’re pregnant by the 22nd week they should be SOL unless there is a legitimately detectable development issue. At some point you should be responsible for your idiocy. If not then someone needs to be sterilized at the same time of the abortion for being a twit.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:34pm
  Pontiaku
  So you’re not totally against abortion. You’re not one of these loonies who thinks that a zygote is a person. We just differ on where to draw the line. But when you make it about people being responsible being idiots, you are saying that it’s okay to help prevent somewhat stupid and irresponsible people from having kids, but really, really stupid and irresponsible people should have theirs because punishing them is more important than the welfare of children or society as a whole.
  
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mewnani
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:07am
Here is an expose detailing how people cease to be human. If you ever think it’s ok to kill everyone poorer than or a different color or religion than you are because they’re “undesirables” check your pulse. Your heart stopped beating a long time ago.

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DZ-015
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:36am
There appears to be an error in the article where it talks about eugenicists first order of business being the identification of “degenerates” in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. I believe that should be the late 19th and early 20th centuries. While notions of racial superiority existed in earlier times, the term “eugenics” was not coined until the 1880′s. The bad part about it was the extent the movement caught on with the American progressives of the early 20th century. Indeed, the Nazis thought their ideas on the subject were but an refinement of things Woodrow Wilson and Margaret Sanger had already said.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:41am
  Not a refinement, a distortion and a perversion.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:06pm
  xilliddemarco of the lab said
  “My authority to say what is evil or not is the right of free speech, but I have no authority to say that anybody should have to accept my opinion on the subject. Witness1974 asked me, so I answered. I thought I gave a pretty good answer just off the top of my head, but if you think it’s wrong, then on what do you base your determination of what is evil?”
  I would define evil by comparing YOUR ideas by what my Lord, YHVH, has said about it. As it turns out, YOU are evil personified.
  I know that you won’t understand, but evil is whatever runs against the grain of what God has stated as his purpose….That every individual should be born of the water, to go through life one time. to choose Him or Satan. There is not one iota of understanding in all you spew….We all know that you are the most advanced person that has ever posted on this site…….and that is your cross to bear. You will one day, soon, NEED help with that cross, minion boy.
  I predict you will eventually euthanize your self. I mean, you are the odd man out, right? Not really beneficial to the world at large…..not helping anything, of no “practical” use, Its easy to discern that you have no value to any one but yourself.
  When it comes time for you to have mercy on yourself, you may find you don’t have the guts to ‘do the deed’, Nearly any one here would gladly ‘assist’ you.
  
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spfoam1
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:45pm
The biggest problem with normal decent people is that they are normal and decent, and the progressives use that to their advantage. Normal decent people only become as nasty as the progressives when they are backed into a corner and kicked a few times. We’ve been backed into a corner but we haven’t been kicked a few times yet. After first blood, people like Hillary and Algore better watch out. They sure do reek of arrogance.

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denkat56
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:22pm
Get rid of the weak, mentally handicapped, physically handicapped, the aged and infirmed , the dregs of society. Sounds wonderful, unless you’re, one of the aforementioned list. I think they should in my opinion get rid of party planners, all politicians, let’s see who else murderers, I said that already ie party planner, how about liars, people responsible for border patrol agents being killed. Or refusing to help people in state department jobs. How about a failure to act in any way, to help others as in Sandy victims, or the abuse of power and privilege so as to bring a country to its knee’s. False accusations, assumptions, knowingly lying to further one’s career in political circles. Failure to listen to the will of the people, who elected them. I think my list is shorter but would work out better for everyone involved.

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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:10am
  It’s good to have evil people. They make the human species continue to get smarter. We would have stopped getting smarter tens of thousands of years ago, as soon as we were more intelligent than other animals like bears, if we didn’t have to compete with other humans for survival.
  
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- SunTzuYou
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:41am
  just sick
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:44am
  Thank you, Xiliab, for your insight. As you clearly point out, the foundational idea of eugenics is evolution. But I do have a question for you. On what do you base your determination of what is evil?
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:06am
  Witness1974
  Evil? Basically, cruel pleasure in the suffering of others, or selfish indifference to the suffering of others. It’s not always easy to draw a clear line between normal, rational self interest and true evil, but I generally know it when I see it.
  
  As far as evolution being the foundational idea of eugenics, that doesn’t mean that eugenics is a natural or inevitable result of our knowledge of evolution. Blaming Darwin for the holocaust would be as dumb as blaming the V-2 rocket attacks on Isaac Newton because he discovered the three laws of motion, or blaming the A-bomb and the cold war on Mendeleyev’s periodic table of the elements.
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:36am
  Xyliab: “It’s good to have evil people.” This is a quote from your post above. I can see now why you would have trouble drawing that line between “your legitimate” self-interest and evil.” Isn’t it true that the theory and doctrine of evolution is mute on good on evil? Neither does evolution speak to the concept of suffering. All that counts is who survives.
  
  Leonard Darwin (Charles Darwin’s son) sat on the earliest International Congress of Eugenics in 1912.
  
  If you can’t see the strong connection between the ideas of evolution and eugenics then I would say you are not as rational as you pretend. It’s a horrible universe you’ve conceptualized. I hope you reconsider it soon. Meanwhile, I thank God that, “The race is not to the swift, Nor the battle to the strong. . .”
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:55am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Don’t worry in hell they are all evil or a hellish place for folks like you that accept that type of horrid lifestyle.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:02am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  Where do you get the authority to say what is evil or not?
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:15am
  Yeah, the theory of evolution is mute on good and evil. So is the theory of gravity. So what? I think that intelligence is good, so it’s good to have evil people, but that’s just my opinion. I’m not a eugenicist, so I’m against actively trying to make people smarter, just as I would be against actively trying to make them taller or less evil or otherwise interfering with the process of natural selection. There is a strong connection between the ideas of evolution and eugenics. Eugenics is the perverted opposite of natural selection concocted by ignorant, misguided dolts who erroneously imagined the “selection” half of the concept to be more important than the “natural.”
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:22am
  begreen
  My authority to say what is evil or not is the right of free speech, but I have no authority to say that anybody should have to accept my opinion on the subject. Witness1974 asked me, so I answered. I thought I gave a pretty good answer just off the top of my head, but if you think it’s wrong, then on what do you base your determination of what is evil?
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:09am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  What free speech gives one authority? Is that all one needs is free speech? Ok then by your standards then I should have the authority to kill you . After all by free speech I can decide and do whatever I want.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:37am
  You asked my authority to SAY what is evil or not. My authority to say what I think is the right of free speech. I asked you on what you base your determination of what is evil, so obviously I also think you have a right to say what is evil or not. I really don’t get how you can see this as somehow analogous to falsely claiming to possess the authority to kill others
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:07am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  You’re not making any sense. On one hand you say free speech gives you authority next you say I have authority also. My question is then who has the final authority? We both can’t be right as you pointed out” analogous to falsely claiming to possess the authority to kill others” By this you are trying to tell me you get to have the final say on what is to be. Or is it might makes right ?
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:23am
  Oops, I posted this one onto the wrong argument a little while ago. I apologize for the repost:
  We both have a right to say what is good and what is evil. Neither of us has the authority to make anyone else pay attention to what we say. No one person has the final say; we have to work out a consensus together. That’s what society is. It’s a messy and imperfect process, but we are social animals, so we have to do the best that we can.
  
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txannie
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:14pm
Dark history?…yes….but HISTORY. Get over it and move on.

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- Max jones
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:35pm
  ANNIE….That was a rather foolish, symptomatic, statement. Symptomatic of a disease described as shortsightedness. It sounded blase’, and devoid of understanding of the issue. Sorry.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:38pm
  Or learn from it
  
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- cogito ergo sum
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:46pm
  What do you mean by “get over it”? It is important that a legacy is left to guard against this or some evolved form of it happening again.
  
  Cogito Ergo Sum
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:48am
  I agree Texas Annie, let’s get over it.
  
  In “The Dark Roots of Eugenics,” Dr. Dennis L. Cuddy wrote that philanthropists like Andrew Carnegie and the Rockefeller family all financially buoyed the movement, and in the early 20th century John D. Rockefeller himself introduced Margaret Sanger – the founder of Planned Parenthood — to the rainmakers who would bankroll her Birth Control League.
  
  Let’s do away with Planned Parenthood and their continuing practice of eugenics now before history continues.
  
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- msjoe43
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:54am
  History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
  – Karl Marx -
  
  If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
  - George Bernard Shaw -
  
  History repeats itself, has to, nobody listens
  - Steve Turner -
  
  History repeats itself. Historians repeat each other.
  - Philip Guedalla -
  
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- Uriel
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:35pm
  Not history. Tranhumanist want it
  First step is round up everyone with mental illness. Includes ADD -ADHD, autism, depresion, PTSD, anxiety, s.a.d., O.c.d., eating disorder.. Since Sandy Hook shooting they want permanently shutting away ALL mentally ill not just Lanza and Louhgner
  We have to round up ALL the crazies just to be sure. For the safety of the children.
  Mentally ill was the first group rounded up by Hitler. They were thought not human and experimented on, just like handicapped and jews were
  
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imperative
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:11pm
I read Edwin Black’s book “IBM and the Holocaust” a while back.

http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation/dp/0914153102

Very interesting book, but I wonder if some might put it on the level of conspiracy theory.

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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:59pm
53 million abortions in the us. God help us

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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:12am
  Thank God of abortion! You have to be crazy to think that having 53 million more people would be a good thing.
  
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- SunTzuYou
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:39am
  What a pessimist, imagine the power of 53 million free thinking individuals, it’s beautiful. 53 million mindless progressive zombies though would challenge my optimism. Glad I am not God.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:47am
  I’m not a pessimist, I’m a realist. You’re not an optimist, you’re a fantasist. Being raised by responsible parents who want you is an advantage. Being raised by stupid parents who just got stuck with you is a disadvantage. There wouldn’t be 53 million people whoa re better than the rest of us, there would be 53 million people who on the average are worse. We would have an even higher percentage of bums, parasites and criminals, and the people who are working productively would have even less chance of getting ahead and improving their lot in life because there would be even more desperate people to compete for the little they have. Our population has grown by about 53 million in the last 20 years, and by 53 million in the 25 years before that. Think of everything that’s gotten crummier in the last 45 years and imagine it another one third crummier than that.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:16am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  You got to be about the dumbest idiot in the world. By your standards that stupid insane parents like you should not have kids For you and you alone I agree. However I would never punish a child by murder even for a disgusting sick wacky nut job like you. .
  
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- tzion
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:43am
  @Xylliab
  I’m sorry, who are you again? Are you some higher level of existence? Are you somehow better than everyone else? Who are you to decide that someone else shouldn’t be allowed to live? Who are you to judge? You’re no better than anyone else and have no right to pass judgement over anybody.
  
  On top of that, you are incredibly shortsighted. For one, I highly doubt your “53 million more” would be an accurate count because: 1. Economics of having children would be different. and 2. You failed to account for descendents of the aborted.
  
  But more importantly, though you recognize the problem of overpopulation, your only solution is to kick the can down the road for someone else to deal with. That’s the behavior of selfish people who care more for their own well being than the next generation’s.
  
  And lastly, you speak of limited resources but you have completely discounted our most important resource: ourselves. You have assumed that 53 million more would mean 53 million takers, an enormous fallacy. Imagine the world with 10 million more farmers. 5 million more engineers. For all you know we might have cities on the moon by now if these people existed. Would that solve your population problem.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:48pm
  xlliaaawha ever…..The two generations we have eliminated from our population, are what is missing now in Bah Rahk’s economic recovery….a big, big hole in the continuity of our fiscal well being. Strange, but it IS beginning to look like a snake swallowing itself.
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:20pm
  tzion
  Judgement isn’t a right, it’s an ability. You are correct that there would be many more than 53 million more people because many of those aborted in earlier decades would have reproduced by now. I do not assume that I do not assume that there would be 53 million takers, however, I maintain that given the environmental disadvantages of being born to stupid, irresponsible parents who don’t really want you, there would be a higher percentage of takers, and a lower percentage of farmers and engineers among the people who aren’t here than among the people who are here, so over all we are better of without the whole lot of them.
  
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DefyTYRANNY
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:38pm
A very apt description of the left and Planned Parenthood.

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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:49pm
  There are no eugenicists in Planned Parenthood today, just good people who make valuable resources and services available to all who want and need them.
  
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- Joshua81
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:05pm
  XYLLIAB you’re an idiot.
  
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- Kuurus
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:07pm
  Most abortion clinics are in minority heavy areas.
  
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- RLTW
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:10pm
  X_O_T_Z
  
  At least you don’t deny your death clubs foundation was built on death, sterilization and uber elitism.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:24am
  Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  
  You fit this discription perfectly . Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
  
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- BrutalTruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:38pm
  The human body begins to grow and age upon conception. Nothing changes at birth. Killing for any reason other than self-defense is murder. Never having committed abortion, but agreeing with it, also makes you an accomplice to murderer. Pure and simple.
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:24pm
What I loved about tonights show was how the left is, in their opinion, soooo much smarter and know whats better for you, than you. In every instance, they label conservatives dumb and low intelligence, only they know what is best for everyone. And if the right would just get out of the way, we would have a utopia. But then look at cities like Chicago, New York, Detroit, and the State of California. When put into practice, and when they have no checks and balances, they destroy everything they touch. And they are usually the ones getting the snot beat out of them, and a “Conservative” usually have to bail them out.

If we could just breed the stuipid out of them, maybe they would wise up.

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:38pm
  Darmok – The progressives personify and embody evil and darkness in their worst versions of humanity. In seeking to establish ‘control’ and ‘purity’ and such madness, they lay the foundations of untold amounts of pain, misery, fear and death that echoes through the generations which follow.
  
  We have forgotten the past for too long of a time, and need to learn it again and tell others so that the past does not happen again.
  
  If America allows the progressives and democrats to commence the eugenics again, on a massive scale to rival or exceed abortion, we are finished as a nation and God’s wrath will be without mercy upon us.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:47pm
  Darmok You had me up until your last sentence because that’s eugenics,breeding to attain a superior race.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:48pm
  DARMOK, Trouble is, who in their right mind would want to breed with them?
  
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- Dodsfall
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:54pm
  @PROGRESSIVESLAYER,
  I believe that was sarcasm.
  
  Progressives have rallied around eugenics since the beginning of the movement. It still gets practiced silently through abortion.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:04pm
  @Progressiveslayer
  
  It was sarcasm, a little tongue-in-cheek humor.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:05pm
  RJJ
  There are always those guys who will pick them up at 3am, and then chew their arm off when they wake up.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:15pm
  There is a level of’ ‘mental evolution’ or spiritual enlightenment, that according to ancient scripture, were never to be achieved by men, without loss of ‘soul’, or a displacement of spiritual identity. It is a permanent damage. You don’t come back.
  In the 70′s, transcendental meditation got publicized, but the REAL practice was Kundalini yoga. The awakening of the sexual energy and the redirection of this energy. Called ‘serpent force’. This is now done with hyper-sexuality and psychotropic drugs.
  People all over the world, mostly young people, but some others, are tuning into this manufactured” godhead”, thinking that this is a natural, evolutionary, type of mental activity, but they now bear the mark of the beast “in” their foreheads. There can, now, be no place for the holy ‘Ruache’ to reside, for it is occupied by a human personality.
  I believe that the advent of interactive digital devices has contributed to this sad development.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:30pm
  aw guys….the damage is done and there is no medicine that can fix or heal….you know this fact….and yet you always sound like you are trying to mend this broken thing. What good are crash site investigators if no one is going to fly again? Its like a postmortem, we know something killed this poor system, but we are puzzled about who, what, when and where. Well, some are puzzled.
  This is where a deep understanding of the Word clarifies things…..everything that is off kilter in our modern world has a corollary in the old testament, and a description in the new testament….
  
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