
Jennifer Tyrrell, former Cub Scout Den Mom, and Will Oliver, Eagle Scout, address the media after delivering boxes containing 1.4 million signatures urging the Boy Scouts of America to reverse the organization’s ban on LGBT Scouts on February 4, 2013 in Irving, Texas. Credit: Getty Images
The battle over the Boy Scouts of America ban on gay members and leaders forges on, with both sides of the debate digging in their heels. Last week, news broke and TheBlaze subsequently confirmed that the organization is considering lifting its controversial restriction. Following this development, Scouts and their families have delivered a petition to the organization’s headquarters, urging an end to a policy that has kept gay scouts and leaders from officially participating in the organization.
They say the petition delivered Monday in Irving, Texas, includes 1.4 million signatures. Scouting leaders are expected to consider ending the ban during a three-day meeting this week, so that timing of the petition if pertinent. This latest effort, which adds to the case that gays should be allowed into the group, will likely rile conservative members who are closely eyeing which side the Scout’s national board aligns with.
Jennifer Tyrrell was among the dozen people who delivered the petition. Tyrrell says she was forced out as leader of her son’s Cub Scout pack because she’s gay, and she doesn’t want to see any other parents treated in the same way. She says the policy is “archaic” and needs to change.
Last Monday, the Scouts issued a response to TheBlaze surrounding the controversial policy. The organization admitted that the regulation is under review and explained the rationale behind potentially abandoning it, essentially claiming that an end to it would allow local groups to have more control over membership rules.
“Currently, the BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation,” the statement read. “This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, but that the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with their organization’s mission, principles or religious beliefs.”

(L-R) Eric Andresen, former Scout leader, Will Oliver, Eagle Scout, Jennifer Tyrrell, former Cub Scout Den Mother, and Greg Bourke, former Assistant Scoutmaster, deliver boxes containing 1.4 million signatures urging the Boy Scouts of America to reverse the organization’s ban on LGBT Scouts on February 4, 2013 in Irving, Texas. The BSA national council announced they were considering to leave the decision of inclusion of gays to the local unit level. U.S. President Barack Obama urged the organization to end a ban on gays. Credit: Getty Images
The national Boy Scouts organization said that it would not mandate a method of handling the issue from the top, thus leaving local groups the flexibility to accept or reject gay members and leaders.
The families who delivered today’s petition were waiting for a representative of Boy Scouts of America to come and accept their petition at the time that this article was written.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Comments (406)
Just_Us2
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:33pmWould anyone be OK with a grown man taking several young girls on an overnight camping trip? Sharing the bathroom facilities? Shower facilities? People would see that and immediately think he’s a perv and parents would go nuts. Why is it OK for a man who is gay to take several boys out to do the same thing? Why are parents so eager to get their kid’s fudge packed? Are they wanting to sue to get a big payday? BSA is done if they go in this direction. It will turn in to a NAMBLA organization.
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Chuck7884
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:42pm1.4 Million Signatures. Online Signature or written Signatures?. if the signatures are online of origin. I suspect they were from Gay rights groups (campaign) and not from the members themselves with an exception of a few, have to love the smoke and mirrors.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:45pm“Would anyone be OK with a grown man taking several young girls on an overnight camping trip?”
Um, .. you just described the “Girl Scouts”.
How about this compromise: Gay men can be volunteers in the Girl Scouts… and Gay women can help out the Boy Scouts.
Would that be OK?
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CENSAYS
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:54pmTHEIGG, you were missed when God was handing out common sense. The nature of the beast, fallen human nature… DO YOU KNOW THE STATS? A Vast majority of gay men and women have been raped or molested as a child. Another stat is that many molested children grow up to become like their attackers. A nature of the beast. This holds true from lowly priests to Tom Cruise.
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Mil-Dot
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:58pmYeah, sorry. Not buying that the 1.4 mil signatures are legit. I want my young son to be an Eagle Scout some day. But, if the pervs are pushing for inclusion, and they get it, that ain’t happening.
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Chuck7884
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:58pmYou can not open the can of worms and just let discriminate based on sex. you can not then leave out age,and religion from the law, open the can of worms and they all come to play.
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DEFCON4
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:01pm@ East, O.K. with me. Good compromise.
Who knows, Hollywood might turn it into a ‘sit-com’.
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chg2012
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:09pmno, looks as tho it is the end of the Boy scouts as we have known it for a few decades .
shame..
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decendentof56
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:15pmI have a grandson in scouting, and do not think they (the scouts) should bail on their beliefs. Does the far left Marxist ever appease the right?…..You know the answer!
But…..When Americans voted to elect Barak Obama, they voted to “fundamentally transform” America.
They did not care that Barak went to a racist church.
They did not care that he was friends with a domestic terrorist.
They did not care that one of his mentors was a Communist.
I know..I know! This stuff (PC) was going on before Obama, but he helped push the agenda over the edge. Now it is time to dance to the music.
Watch this to see how your kids brains were turned to mush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
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SocialistSlayer
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:17pmSo if someone gets 1.4 million signatures of Boy Scouts and their families allowing Child Molesters would that be okay also?? Sound absurd ??? So did what they are doing now a few years ago. Somebody with Common Sense and Morals please stand your ground. It’s okay to say no to people that want to push the envelope. If you don’t it will never end !
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NewCreationDave
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:24pm@Eastinfection:
No it would not be ok. Homosexuality is a disgusting, perverted sexual deviancy. It’s wrong and everyone knows it. God says everyone knows it; some simply choose to suppress their knowledge of the truth to make room for their lustful exploits.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:35pmWow, NEWCREATIONDAVE…
That’s pretty aggressive rhetoric. I hope you’re not over-compensating to feel better about yourself?
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henryKnox
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:18pmI think it is fine if the BSA wants to admit gays into the raising of young boys. However, if they do I would advise parents to take their boys out of scouts and form their own organization. It is the free market and if parents would like to protect their children from molestation then they could form their own group parallel with the BSA. Those that prefer to take the risk can stay with the BSA, let the free market decide.
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Bernard Gui
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:26pmIs it true that men can be Girl Scout leaders, but only if one or more
women are present at the same time?
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:39pmBERNARD GUI…
That may be true. Makes sense if it is.
Perhaps the BSA should adopt a policy of “No Camp-outs with just Gay men”- there’s got to be a bunch of weirdos there that just “like to spend time with boys” as well?
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50calgunner
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:10pmIf they would of shot the first one that came out of the closet the rest would of stayed in.
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CourageousGeorge
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:15pmCan you say “lawsuit”? In the girl scouts, fathers are absolutely not welcome on campouts with their daughter’s troop. In part it’s a liability issue. In the boy scouts doesn’t a gay leader potentially have the same issue? Similarly would you put a 16 year old boy in a tent overnight with a 16 year old girl? Why would you think about doing that with two boys either or both of whom that might say they are gay?
I’ve been a scout leader of various positions for 14 years with my sons. Dropping that rule will be the death of scouting.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:21pm50CALGUNNER….
That’s a lie & i’ll prove it to you..
Do you want your enemies to hide?..
or would you rather they voluntarily identify themselves?
honestly.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:26pmCOURAGEOUSGEORGE…..
—–> “In the girl scouts, fathers are absolutely not welcome on campouts with their daughter’s troop.”
Balogna.
It happens all the time…
https://www.gsgatl.org/what-we-do/camp/Pages/Mountain-Jubilee.aspx
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Modern_Cicero
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:27pmTheiggies, there’s a difference. First I do have a problem with a grown man taking a group of stranger’s girls on an overnight camping trip as the only adult. Second, there is a HUGE difference between a regular guy and a person who openly tells the world that they want to be identified by their sexual actions. If a persons identity is wrapped up in sex acts, they have no place leading children in the woods alone as the only adult.
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sillyfreshness
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:27pmWe have “fundamentally transformed” America into Amerika and is now a PC Marxist nation with gays as our new Founding Fathers.
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Redfor
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:44pmThe Scout Oath:
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
What part of Morally Straight do they not understand? Might as well take out Duty to GOD and Country so people of all religions or lack there of join as well.. Oh.. and change ” Help other people all times to ” Help other People unless it conflicts one of your other beliefs..
If you don’t like it.. START your own Organization with YOUR beliefs instead of trying to force people to your beliefs.. Where do you think the Girl Scouts of America came from? A new group for a different set of of people.
At least you’re off to a good start, 1.4 Million Signatures, should have no problem getting funding and members.
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jungle J
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:45pmNewCreationDave is a progressive operative ‘spouting”. It is obvious to the sane.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:46pmSILLY…
” with gays as our new Founding Fathers…”
lol. We should be so lucky…
Our “New Founding Gender-Neutral Parental Figures” will be a combo of all races, genders, and sexualites when the machine is thru with us.
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jungle J
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:46pm50calgunner..another progressive operative.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:00pmCrap, JUNGLE… i think you’re right.
Ug.. i got sucked in to it..
The shame. the shame….
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:03pmYou’re operating under the assumption that gay people want to have sex with children and that the only adults that will now be in charge of scouts are hoards of gay men. Given the stats, only a small percentage of scout leaders would be gay – an even (much) smaller percentage would be pedophiles. If 5 adults go on a scouting trip, I’d place my bets none of them were gay pedophiles….
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Keatonc333
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:05pmjust us2… thats the girl scouts in a nut shell.. so the answer is yes. millions of people are ok with that.
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Ditto Head
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:13pmCan we get 20 million signatures against? Where do I volunteer?
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:21pmANIMALSASLEADERS..
i think your sentiment is accurate and well thought out.
many posters here are ignorant of the differences between gay & pedophile adults…
I think it’s a communication problem….
What they are trying to say is that they really are worried about Gay 20- somethings camping with sexually mature 17-year olds…
All the exaggerations are frivolous…. The real perceived threat is in the aforementioned scenario…
Which there is no good answer for, BTW.
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Ditto Head
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:24pmWho knew there were so many g.d. qweers involved in scouting already?
I didn’t.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:25pmFer Chrissakes Keaton… Can you at least read my posts before ripping off my takes?
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BODYBAG
Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:13pm@MIL-DOT
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 4:58pm
Yeah, sorry. Not buying that the 1.4 mil signatures are legit. I want my young son to be an Eagle Scout some day. But, if the pervs are pushing for inclusion, and they get it, that ain’t happening.
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Ditto.
If this happens my kids will never go near scouting. Ever.
The name of the organization will then be quite literal —- Boy Scouts — as in scouting for boys.
And make no mistake —- little gay boys have the same hormones as little straight boys.
Brokeback Mountain.
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progoyim
Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:15pmcomes down to are you behind the sodomite cause or not? pun intended .
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Oldmantex
Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:57pm1.4 million new members – check
Att, Intel, UPS Funding – Check
Eagle scouts or equivalent – Check
Scout Masters – Check
Weak knee gay loving Scout board members – Check
You have everything you need as homosexuals to start your own scout LIKE group.
It will be private so no heterosexuals will force their opinions on you, protected by the SCOTUS
You have 1.4 million members ready to sign up, funding from large companies, scout leaders to teach, and board members to get it organized.
There is only ONE reason you dont just start your own club.
You want ACCEPTANCE not inclusion. You homosexuals wish to force yourselves on others to have your life style condoned.
Its not going to work this time. Way to much information out there about your ability (and only right) to start your own club.
If you choose not to start your club and continue this attack, you are poking a hornets nest that I dont think will be as forgiving as you believe.
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The Third Archon
Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:30pm“Why are parents so eager to get their kid’s fudge packed?”
I wonder the same thing whenever I hear someone is Catholic.
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Female
Feb. 4, 2013 at 11:39pmRainbow Scouts?
I am just sick and tired of the hideous lies!
Two of my sons are scouts…for now. Not much time, but how many signatures of true scouts and parents do you think we could come up with.
LGBT “lifestyle” is absolutely the most vilest activity, addiction, pervsion, deception and abomination. It is just plain nasty and disease promoting! Love? I call it unhygenic. If you can get sick from not washing your hands properly or not wiping in the right direction….doing it wrong has to bring on somethings really bad. Of course, the medical field isn’t going to do studies correlating these activities and various bacterial or cancers prevelent in those who participate. It is just BF and CL.
I am sure to get censored for this one; but sometimes, I just gotta call it as I see it! Something which is created to be so special, mysterious, wonderful, and producing our children is turned into ……
Absolutely vile!
Man + Woman not= man + man or woman + woman
man + man = disease and muscle damage
woman + woman = need for tools and toys
Man + Woman = baby
Please forgive the bottom lineness of my comments but I warned…I am sick and tired. They are not equals to heterosexuals as: they can produce absolutely nothing from the vanity and indulgence of their twisted desire.
Homosexuality is worse than thinking about my parents :(
I am a scout parent of 2 sons. I didn’t let my girls join GS because of these types of issues.
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Female
Feb. 4, 2013 at 11:58pmWow, I commented before reading…I thought my comments were too tough but as I read…..my might be milder than I thought?
Thanks to many, for giving me, so many opportunities to laugh out loud…I mean really laugh and really loud!
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The Jewish Avenger
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:05am1.4 Million…
Yep, would be about the same number that go state to state registering as citizens and then voting for the gay marriage bill to pass…
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Female
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:36amHas anyone ever thought the might be after the prestigue, reputation, and scholarship opportunities an “eagle scout” provides? Could this push be for $$$$ and positions at military academies?
Didn’t plan on staying up …but this is important to me…
Please BSA STAND for God and country!
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 3:36amSigh…..
Homosexual does not equal pedophile. Gay people are not recruiting straight people to be gay; not possible. A loving homosexual relationship is just as valid and wonderful as a loving heterosexual relationship. Please, take the time to get to know someone who is gay. So many of you on here clearly do not know anyone who is gay, and are basing your comments on stereotypes and ignorance. Keeping gays out of scouts is discrimination, plain and simple.
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Thomas
Feb. 5, 2013 at 5:55amHow would they even know you were homosexual unless you tell them. This is just another way for perverts to try and reach kids and numb them to perversion. Perverts find great pleasure it perverting the innocent and that is why pedophiles also go after children.
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Thomas
Feb. 5, 2013 at 6:02amThe fact is that the condition these people suffer from does not just affect their sexual attraction they are not rational or logical people. They are emotionally and mentally mixed up in many ways. They don’t just want to practice their lust they want everyone else involved in it too. All people on this planet owe their existence on this planet first to the Spirit of Life (God) and second to heterosexuality which was the way he brings life. The male and female come together physically and reflect God and therefore produce Life. Those people in this world who are only ruled by their emotions have many problems. They eventually experience mental break down. Its like someone who eats alot of junk food they eventually realize that it is not good for them and so they start eating more healthy choices which at first is not pleasant but eventually becomes the new nature. If controlling our emotions with rational thought was not possible then explain to me how people lose weight?
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lobster
Feb. 5, 2013 at 9:21amIt looks to me that we aren’t far from the outcome at Sodom and Gomorrah. Talk about the 2% of the population screaming for “rights”. I and my sons were all Eagles, boy if they do this it will be the end of an era for America.
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The Jewish Avenger
Feb. 5, 2013 at 9:35am@HarryPotter
No being gay doesnt instantly make you a pedophile BUT who is more likely to be attracted to underaged boys AND are most sexually active.
By the stats… Its homosexual men.
So, yes there is reason for concern.
Should I worry about my math teacher cousin who is flambouyantly gay and LOVED by his students?
No, because I known him long enough to know where he stands.
His friends? Sorry some of them are just as perverted as the old man in the trench coat flashing the ladies on the street.
Am I singling them out? Again, they are the most sexually active… Why arent people afraid of women being pedophiles? They are less likely to do it. Why aren’t straight men singled out for this? Because they are less likey to do it. Can they? Yes. Do they? Sadly, yes. But are they KNOWN for it? No.
Also lets make an outright point: Remember all the arguments of homosexuals in history that had power and even married? Wait till they point out again about the Greeks (remember the birthplace of education) who had and PREFERED young male lovers…
I wish I could remember the name of the movie where a professor talked about some senator that spoke to the senate about how this “crap” should stop and the senate raged and stabbed him to death… what was his name?
Also please note: While looking up for this senators name that was brutaly killed in the senate, It appears that Pedastry and pedophile is now two different things. The difference? Age. (ugh)
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sgallion1
Feb. 5, 2013 at 11:45amAmerica is on a path of judgement and destruction. Homosexuality is the downfall of nations. Don’t believe in God’s Word??? Then just read history.
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Armed Patriot
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:03pmI no longer will buy any Girl Scout cookies nor support the Girl Scouts in any way. Not since they accepted a transvestite into thier scouting community. I boy in drag should not be a girl scout. Now the Boy Scout want to do the same. Accept homosexuals into their community. I am sorry, its over. No more support for the Boy Scouts. It is the intentional destruction of our morals in society. It is not about tolerance, It is about destroying the moral fabric that holds our country together and turning our collective backs against the teachings of GOD himself. These are the things that lead to mass murders, the destruction of our moral code, not semi automatic firearms. DAMNIT!!! Fisrst the Girl Scouts, then the US Military, now the Boy Scouts. Where do we turn to find moral institutions??? Turn to GOD for he surely must be coming.
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Armed Patriot
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:31pmThis whole issue is about tolerance for gays, when the issue should really be about tolerance for the moral majority of normal (straight) people.
Jennifer Tyrrell says she was forced out as leader of her son’s Cub Scout pack because she’s gay, and she doesn’t want to see any other parents treated in the same way. She says the policy is “archaic” and needs to change.
No our morals need to remain and we dont need to change them to accept an immoral society because 3% of the population demands it. What needs to change is MS Tyrrell’s insistence that we need to accept her immorality. We do not. We do not need to accept a gay scout leader taking young, impressionable boys into the woods who might be sexually attracted to them and lure them into immoral acts. The scouts have a history of this. “It is much more probable that something that has happened before, will happen again, than something that has never happened, will happen”.
Homosexuality is against the teaching of the Bible and the actions of GOD. What didnt you learn from Sodom and Gomorrah?
Ms Tyrrell needs to accept the fact that her choices are not within mainstream American values and if she chooses to be an outcast, she will be treated as an outcast.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man (woman) lies with a male (woman) as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. Ms Tyrrell… God has already spoken.
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may40
Feb. 5, 2013 at 2:24pmIn Massachusetts we got more than the needed signature to put the definition of marriage on the ballot but of course the courts knew better and legalized it against the will of the people. This group of people is very strong .
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 3:36pmThomas:
How would you know if you were Christian unless someone told you? How would you know if you were left-handed unless someone told you? How would you know if you were Asian unless someone told you? Being gay is not something you can change, or need to be told. In fact, the problems come when some people try to convince homosexuals that they are not gay, and that they can change. You cannot change your sexual orientation any more than you can change your race.
Being gay is not an addiction, a disease, or an emotional state. It is a reference to the gender(s) you are attracted to, and can lead to eternal and meaningful relationships just like heterosexuals. The Spirit of Life created gay people as well, and we have passed the point of needing sex to create children. Many gay couples are raising children. Many straight couples cannot produce children without scientific help. All your arguments are baseless and irrevalent.
Avenger:
Just like how being a straight man makes you more likely to be attracted to little girls, or beat children, or rape women. Pedophilia is separate from sexual orientation. Should you trust a gay man you don’t know with your children? No. Should you trust a straight man you don’t know with your children. No. There are plenty of examples of men claiming to be straight abusing boys. This is not a gay issue. This is an issue about screening volunteers, and making sure that there are always multiple adults present.
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 3:57pmSgallon1:
Homosexuality has not been the downfall of any nation. Please take a close look at your history books.
Patriot:
The same thing has been said about every minority. Why should whites cave to the demands of the blacks who are such a small minority? Equality should never be up for a vote. Our government is also a republic, meant to be able to protect the rights of the minorities against the majorities. You cannot justify discrimination with popular vote. You do not need to accept gay people at all, and frankly, we don’t care about your thoughts on the matter. But you cannot discriminate because you find gay people disgusting or somehow immoral. And God had not spoken on the issue. The Bible was written by man.
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American Cherokee
Feb. 5, 2013 at 5:07pmIf people took the time to know and really care about people they know they would know most of them know someone who has dealt all their life with the devasting after effects of being sexually or violently assaulted as a child or young adult. Most deal with that the best they can and go on to be descent honorable good people. But it scars and effects the rest of their life. Many know boys now adults who were assaulted by Scout masters or similar people. Girls also. And sometimes the abuse was done by females. There are honorable good Priests, Scout masters, others that manage kids. But any profession that has men or women having isolated or profound control of individual or groups of children or teens attracts predators who like to use and abuse those. There are bad and good gay people. But the Scouts are what they are. This is similar to groups wanting to tell Church groups they have to let atheist or anti-religious people be heads of those religious groups. That is insane absurd. Some of the people protesting and pushing the petition are flamers. Not regular gay people. Thy are pushing an agenda. Most gay people go about their lives and don’t try to push any agenda at anyone. Many have kids and would not want someone with agenda or any possible risk escorting their child anywhere. People shouldn’t be announcing their sexuality, gay, bi, straight, whatever PERIOD. Especially when they are dealing with A CHILDREN’S CLUB! IT’S ABOUT THE KIDS STUPID! Show Some Class!
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 5:50pmAmerican:
So what exactly is your argument for keeping gays out of scouts?
Also, saying that you are gay does not mean that you are defining yourself solely by your sexuality or by sex in general. Just like if a man said he had a girlfriend, he is not defining himself by his sexuality or sex either. When someone says they are gay, that us just a part of their identity, and likely not even among the most important. It is you who make it so by focusing on it. The woman in the story brought up her sexuality because it was directly relatable to the issue at hand.
And no one is forcing the scouts to change. The petition is not government intervention. It is merely helping the group see the error of their ways, and to convince them to stop the irrational discrimination.
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Thomas
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:08pm@harryPotter: Wrong. Homosexuality is a mental and emotional problem. I could say I am attracted to a hole in the wall but you would know I am just crazy. I don’t care if you want to be homosexual that is your business but keep your perversions to your self and away from children. You have no clue what the Spirit of Life for Life seeks to expand. Nothing is owed to homosexuality except for other mental problems that the person suffers from. We owe our existence on this planet first to God and then to heterosexuality. Homosexual don’t know love which is selfless oneness which when a woman and man come together they reflect that oneness. Homosexuality is about satisfying ones own lust period.
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:41pmThomas:
Wow. Feel the hate. What’s your basis for claiming that homosexuality is a mental or emotional problem? All of your arguments apply equally as well for heterosexuality. You may not be gay, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with someone who is. And I am gay, and absolutely know what love is. I love my boyfriend, I love my parents, I love my brothers, I love my friends. In your post I saw the polar opposite of love: irrational hatred. Perhaps it is you who does not understand love.
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desertspeaks
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:42pmsame mentality parents had towards michael jackson.. nahhh nothing wrong there, hell, what could possibly go wrong, right???
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HarryPotter
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:47pmDesert:
How is that in any way related to Boy Scouts?
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:30am@ARMEDPATRIOT
Considering the 300+ year history of America, we’re as good as we’ve ever been with regard to morality. There was a point at which women couldn’t vote. Slavery was legal at one point. We had a full-blown civil war. Surely there were people saying your exact words and yet, after all these years, Americans are still able to change and improve upon their previous moral convictions.
That’s one of the things that make America great. We don’t just learn from our mistakes, we correct them and remind ourselves of them – as both inspiration and warning.
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PATTY HENRY
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:36amSay, I have an idea…why don’t the GAY boys and men form their GAY BOY SCOUT organization and leave the Heteros alone? http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/04/how_many_gays_in_america_ucla_study_9_million.php This was from UCLA 2011 that said a little over 3% of our population is GAY. Like there are 9 Million …okay, that’s a lot but it’s a long way from 75Million (25% ) Good GRIEF!!! You’d think there were 90% GAY by the fits they pitch. So, They feel they have to infect everything? Taking our word for marriage; Insulting our Churches; forcing their deviant life style upon our kids text books? GO be GAY…I don’t care…just leave me/us the hell alone. IF it is caused, in fact, by kids being abuses and the abused go on to abuse others and the stain gets bigger…it’s time to stop it. Have whatever organizations you want for yourselves…fine…just leave ours alone. As the mother of sons, there is no way…none…that I would allow my son(s) to join a gay organization, take camping trips with a gay leader. I do not trust them. Okay? I’ve said it out loud. I think they sold out to evil and their goal is to taint everyone so they don’t feel so badly themselves. I don’t hate them, I hate their obnoxious and tawdry actions…they need to try to cure themselves not taint the world. Sorry. But that’s how I feel.
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PATTY HENRY
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:41amOH GOOD GRIEF!!! Now the HOMOSEXUALS are saying they “FEEL THE HATE”…no dude, you hear the disgust. What you do is disgusting to Heteros… you and Obamalama have SO over used the RACIST and HATE cr@p so much that you’ve blown it out as a viable explanation.
WE tell OUR truth. You don’t like it? Tough…we don’t like what you do…so go away with the “OH YOU HATE ME” stuff…it’s about as effective now as the “Oh you are a racists”…. boo hoo dude.
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HarryPotter
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:21amPatty:
I was referring to his comments about love, and then how he went and made a comment full of hate. I was hoping he would see the irony. And the ways I express my love do not disgust all straight people. Since over half of Americans are in favor of gay marriage, with the addition of those who can recognize love but not the word marriage, I’d say you are in the clear minority. You personally are disgusted by me. And that’s fine. Frankly, you disgust me.
More and more people are realizing that gay rights are the civil rights of our generation, and they do not want to be on the wrong side of history. There is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. Gay marriage is coming. Gays will be accepted in Scouts (if not in this decision, then down the road). You will see gay people in public, you children will know gay people in school. Discrimination is falling away. You don’t like it? Boo hoo. This is America; love it or leave it.
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mamatango
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:40am@Oldmantex
My thoughts exactly!
Now this just in:
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/boy-scout-leader-charged-with-sodomizing-scout/
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careaboutUSA
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:50amI’m a Catholic, my religion says! No boys , only girls! Does no one care about MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!! or do we only care about the minorities and perverts feelings! Why do I , who is part of the MAJORITY, have to accept gay peoples their perverted ways! U want to “go with another same sex person” , go do it, but leave us NORMAL people alone! U’re trying to push yr devious ways on my children, so that we’ll think it’s normal! It’s not and no matter how hard u push, it’s still abnormal!
Go start yr own “boy on boy scouts” , there’s lots of Scout masters to help u get started! Sure would’nt send my kids camping with them!! So now I’m all prejudiced, because I have my religious beliefs! Long Live Normal America!
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E.Z. Las Vegas
Feb. 6, 2013 at 6:21amHey, Third Archon:
The Catholic Church has fallen into apostasy because it gave up on it’s principles to try to make itself a bigger tent, become more hip, and more progressive.
Progressives have infiltrated the Church for decades, as they have all human institutions. They cannot accomplish their goals through persuasion or merit, only through deception and destruction.
Shortly before his death, noted Catholic author and Exorcist, Father Malachi Martin, said that the smoke of Satanism had penetrated even the Vatican itself.
All that is required for Satan and the Progressives to succeed, is for the good to do nothing, and stand by as everything necessary to maintain a civil society is systematically undermined and destroyed, one “reasonable accomodation” at a time.
Archon, I am not yet certain if YOUR intention is reproof and correction, or tyranny, anarchy, and destruction. I do get the feeling that you have an extremely low opinion of Christianity in general, and Catholocism in particular, and I find that to be sad and regrettable. I pray that one day you will find peace.
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SquidVetOhio
Feb. 6, 2013 at 8:46am“Homosexual does not equal pedophile. Gay people are not recruiting straight people to be gay; not possible.”
HARRYPOTTER let me educate you. If gays did not recruit straight people, the would be extinct genius. I don’t know if you have ever taken a biology class but, you guys can’t reproduce. Also, I know I’m a Christian because one day I became one based on a decision I made. The same reason you know that you’re gay. Plus, there have been books written (by gay friendly psychiatrists) that will tell you that 70% of all gays have had hetero-sexual intercourse. How can that be if they are born gay? And if you are born gay, explain bisexuals. Are they born bisexuals? Then the overwhelming percentage of gays who admit to being abuses either sexually of physically as a child. The astronomical amount of sexual partners a gay person will have in their lifetime. Again, this study was done by a gay friendly psychiatrist in California.
Inconvenient truth. Go to the gay sights and see what the sexual trends are that gays are doing. You would be amazed/sickened (although you probably already know).
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PATTY HENRY
Feb. 6, 2013 at 9:35amSorry Potter: but I’ve seen Gay people on the streets almost all my life; I worked and work with them; i don’t try to tell them what to do, but they try to tell ME what to do; how to think…and NO Gay rights is not the “CIVIL RIGHTS” of this generation…I know you guys try your best to make it seem that way, but it’s not. IF 50% of America go along with it, big whoop! 51% of America voted for that inept guy to be President. The GAY lifestyle is not ordained by GOD and PS: Men wrote the BIBLE as guided by the HOLY SPIRIT and the CATHOLIC CHURCH is not caving into this sickness, of course as 1 in 4.5 people of the United States are Catholic, there will be members, but we understand it’s not GOD’S Natural Law and all the huffing and puffing on your part can’t make it so.
Do I feel sorry for you? You betcha. A Gay Friend of mine (who knows how I feel) Said once “Do you think I wanted to live my life as a gay man??! Of course no!” The LAST thing he would do is try to encourage some one to be Gay. In school GAY women were like piranhas with the underclass women – they were also the angriest people I’ve ever seen. It is an illness of some type. I am offended by much of what is said and acted out, but nothing is more offensive to me than watching you force your deviance on unsuspecting people. Again: What you do with your life is your business but I don’t have to like it and I don’t.
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HarryPotter
Feb. 6, 2013 at 5:01pmSquid:
So when exactly did you decide to be straight? Ever notice how it is only straight people who claim that sexuality is something that you decide, or can change? I am gay, and I can tell you that there is no choice, no recruiting. You are born one way or another, you do not get to decide. And so you know, gays can reproduce, I have several gay friends with biological children. And besides, you don’t think that straight couples have gay children?
Yes, bisexuals were born bisexual. And yes, homosexuals can have sex with the opposite gender. This isn’t that complicated. And as for “what we are doing” straight people do all the same stuff too. All of it.
Patty:
I’m glad ou recognize that a popular vote does not equal morality. And God has said nothing about homosexuality. The Bible was written by man. It doesn’t matter if God was whispering in his ear, if fallible man was holding the pen, the Bible is fallible as well.
As for your “friend” who is gay, it sounds like he was telling ou he never had a choice. You cannot encourage someone to be gay any more than you can encourage someone to be tall. However, I (and likely your friend as well) would never want anyone to deny who they are because someone else disagrees with it. Far too many gay people spend their lives, or portions trying to be straight because that is what they think society wants. That is what I want to avoid. And in my high school, the straight boys were the “piranhas” and the angry peop
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Rowgue
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:32pmFarce masquerading as a grass roots gay rights movement. Supposedly driven by kids too young to even know what being gay really is or what the consequences of encouraging it are. Yeah I almost believed this was legit…sure I did.
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Dan_o
Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:52pmIf there are really 1.4 million in support of this, why don’t they start their own club?
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pragmaticpatriot
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:30pmInstead of trying to make us swallow the gay, why dont they form Gayscouts of Ameritopia? Im ready to form my own country, The Conservative States of Oklahoma
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TheIggies
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:37pmEnjoy your Indian Casinos and…nothing else.
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dnewton
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:49pmI suspect that forming your own failed organization would not meet the goal of mainstreaming homosexuality into the culture. Homosexuality is already in the culture but such a move tends to make it more acceptable by marginalizing those who still don’t agree. It also makes the organizations moral goals more squishy and sends the message that it is OK to compromise your principles if it is culturally or politically correct. The Boy Scouts will shrink if they do this and I think the girl scouts have already found out that their soft acceptance is not helping them very much.
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pghpatriot
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:03pmI agree with you Patriot. That way neither group has to acquiesce to each other’s idiosyncrasies. No doubt each group will has it’s own way of doing certain things. That way both groups can remain true to themselves. Also, somehow after the ‘gay’ issue is resolved, the religious aspect will surface. Then you’ll have atheists who want both disbanded because ONE insecure, control seeking SOB is against the religious aspect.
That’s the problem with all this ‘social awareness.’ First off, if you aren’t wanted in an organization, why does it then become your goal in life to get in or destroy it. IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
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Armed Patriot
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:40pmWho is John Galt???
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jrl0912
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:28pmIn our society we have all kinds of weird requirements to keep from being sued….we see statements on hair dryers to not use them in the bathtub, we see wording on coffee that it is “hot”, and even a Ford commercial that showed a car flying thru the air had a disclaimer that “Cars cannot fly”….so when will the first BSA troop be sued because a boy was molested and they did not have common sense rules to prevent it….this seems like a no brainer…..they sure look like they are exposing themselves (pun intended) to being sued….then going out of business.
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TheIggies
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:40pmWhen will the churches where boys have been molested be shut down?
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BillyPenn
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:41pmI agree 100%. They should look at the consequences of the ‘sleeping bag for two.’, arraignment.
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jrl0912
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:37pmYou must be a “low information voter” (used to be called Moron)…the Churches do not condone the behavior/arrangements/organization that “ALLOW” sexual misconduct to occur like the scouts are opening themselves up to with this change….that’s why its appropriate to not pursue Churches that these events occur at. Low information voters will be the demise of America.
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piiguissa
Feb. 5, 2013 at 11:46amAs far as the abuses in churches, Boys we’re molested by male priest…..hummmmm…. male + male = homosexual! Exactly! Get the homosexual gay men away from little boys. They pretend to be priests, pastors as a way to gain access to our young boys but they are gay predators! Male molesting little boys in any organization, church, BSA, YMCA, whatever… men + their male victims. Homosexual sometimes pretending to be heterosexual.
Not all gay men are molesters. But the ones who are they do look to be in places where they have easy access to victims and gain everyone’s trust, and that’s how abuse take place.
Yes strait man molest little girls too, but the issue here is gays and little boys. So sticking to the issue, it’s an awful idea to encourage gays to join boys scouts.
I have no problem with gay men, but the same way I’m uncomfortable with strait men around little girls/teenage girls, I would be just as uncomfortable with gay men around little boys/teenaged boys.
Gays complain about discrimination and the way they are treated, so why encourage young boys to become gay so they grow up to live a life where they’ll be discriminated against? I don’t agree to have gay as role models for our boys. Some boys will grow up to become gay men regardless, but that should be their personal decision and not something glamorized or encouraged. You choose a lifestyle you also get to live with the consequences. Apply to all us.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:28pmBSA is a PRIVATE Association. They should NEVER give in to the pressure from ANY group. And Gays wonder why they are hated so much ! Stop forcing your Agenda on everyone.
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TheIggies
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:41pmIf you’d just be accepting then we wouldn’t have to be pushy, sweet heart.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:54pmTHEIGGIES…
Be gay.
Be as gay as you want.
I could care less.
But from a marketing perspective, answer this, and be honest.
Have you ever bought a product from a salesman that was REALLY pushy?
If you have, …i’d bet you didn’t feel too good about it afterwards.
Keep that in mind.
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Blackhawk1
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:01pmIf your sexually perverted choice makes you unable to produce offspring then you should not be allowed around other peoples offspring. There is a reason Gay people cannot reproduce, because it goes against nature.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:20pmBLACKHAWK1…
That is a ridiculous argument.
By your logic, your wife should not be allowed around kids if she’s sterile… nor should you if you have Erectile Dysfunction.
BTW… gays can reproduce as well as anyone else can… just not with each other.
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Creativethinker
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:55pmThere is the Royal Rangers for boys out of the Assembly of God churches. You won’t have this problem there.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:09pmCREATIVETHINKER….
Royal Rangers? Which side of the problem?
“Royal Rangers” sounds like a bunch of dudes in powdered wigs getting fed grapes by eunuchs… or was that the point?
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DLV
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:10pmEast- that was a bit of a fail. Blackhawk was clearly making a point that since it’s impossible for gay people to breed with each other and it goes against nature then they should not be around other people’s offspring. The wife is sterile thing is stupid because she can reproduce with other men if she was not sterile. If you’re purposely not trying to get this then I feel bad for you.
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soldado2187
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:18pmTheIggies
Why is it that gays always want to force people to accept them? But they can accept that fact that some people won’t? How would they feel if a heterosexual wants to force them to change policies on any of their organizations and force them to let anyone that differs from their believe join and chages those bilieve? Is like joining the NFL and tell them that they have to play baseball. People form clubs, organizations to be with people that have the same ideas, believe, values etc… Why don’t they just form there own and call it what ever they want and take whom ever they want
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:34pmDLV…
No… the “fail” argument is “If your sexually perverted choice makes you unable to produce offspring then you should not be allowed around other peoples offspring.”
Homosexuality is ultimately a choice because it is confirmed by behavior. All behaviors are a choice,
Homosexuality is an unnatural perversion, because men and men cannot procreate (vis-a-vis chicks & chicks).
I get that.
I have never seen any evidence pointing towards gays being less able than straights to babysit a bunch of kids…
You’d think there’d be tons…. but there’s not.
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Helen Hyde
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:59pmTheiggies, Its hard to take anybody seriously that is too stupid to know what their ***** is for, and that confusion is their whole identity. Seems that you “guys” dwell on that continuiously.
Learn basic biology, and quit worshipping your rectum.
Your choice is nothing to be proud of.
G ot
A IDS
Y et
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Bookster
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:07pmThere is no accepting. Last time I checked, there is no expiration date on the Bible. God calls it an abomination. It is.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Progressives are a virus, a plague.
Democrats are Godless.
MSNBC=Hell’s webcam.
0bama=Enemy of America.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:11pmlol HELEN HYDE…
Wow you hit the thumb right on the nail !!
Got AIDS yet?
lol. awesome!
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:16pmTHEIGGIES : I’ll never accept Flamers like you. I’m not your Sweetheart, Asslicker. You **** don’t get it. The harder you push your sick Agenda, the more hated your all are. No one cares what sick twisted crap you do in your own poo filled bedrooms. No one.
If you Pole Puffers want to wear little Pink Shorts and Ties and go Camping together, start your own group. Leave the BSA alone.
Myself, i root everyday for AIDS.
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BODYBAG
Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:13pm@EASTINFECTION
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 5:20pm
BLACKHAWK1…
That is a ridiculous argument.
By your logic, your wife should not be allowed around kids if she’s sterile… nor should you if you have Erectile Dysfunction.
BTW… gays can reproduce as well as anyone else can… just not with each other.
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Actually YOURS is the ridiculous argument.
The premise here is BIOLOGY — not old age or physical infirmary.
“BTW… gays can reproduce as well as anyone else can… just not with each other.”
Thats the WHOLE POINT dope.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:25pmC’mon BODYBAG…
I agree with you 99% of the time and your going to bust my balls over this?
My whole point is that being gay doesn’t disqualify someone from baby-sitting duty.
Would you rather your Lesbian sister-in-law babysit your twin boys, or the teenage chick down the street that’s going to invite her Meth-addicted boyfriend over as soon as the rugrats hit the sheets?
How is BSA any different?
They have the right to discriminate any way they choose. I would die to defend that right.
…but what’s the point? There’s no advantage to be gained with this particular discrimination.
Are piles & piles of gays clamoring to be involved with the scouts?
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:41amYep, and they don’t have to adopt the demands – it’s called freedom. If the leaders of the private organization willingly change their policies, that’s their prerogative. Your moral beliefs are inconsequential in this case. You don’t own or run the organization and thus your desire to keep gay leaders out is just as arbitrary as the desire of the gay rights activists to have them included.
If you believed in freedom and the sovereignty of the individual, you would leave it to the free market.
If the BSA decides to adopt the plan and you don’t like it – go somewhere else. Make your own organization. But why, you ask, shouldn’t the gay rights activists just make their own organization? There’s no reason why they shouldn’t. If they made a BSA-like group that allowed gay leaders, 1.2 million signatures to get them to change the policy to exclude them would be just as stupid.
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1776boy
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:26amarmedandrealypissed- dom’t listen to that worthless peice of crap , I agree with you and so do soo many more
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Balrog28
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:27pmRobert Baden-Powell is rolling over in his grave…
So sad – and I just had my 3rd child (finally a boy!) and was looking forward to his scouting days – Now I’ll have to look elsewhere.
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smwk
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:54pmyep, I used to donate to friends of scouting, but no more money from me if they change the policy!
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pragmaticpatriot
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:26pmUncle Buddy died be he keeps on voting. Or was it the family dog? Was one named Dont BeGay Sparky? i dont buy this crap, id NEVER let my child be exposed to possible perversion just to be PC.
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JEANNIEMAC
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:25pmWhat about the members recalling the heads of the gutless National Counsel, and electing new leaders who are willing to resist intimidation? This last election was won by means of fraudulent votes, etc.
I really doubt that over a million parents want their boys to be in the control of homosexual leaders.
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Red Meat
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:28pmThere’s your suburban idiot parents for you;. Probably most of the 1.4M are in the northeast.
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tc5bwe
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:24pmAs the mother of five Eagle Scouts, I would not have my young men in a program that has actively “gay” men or women as leaders. I don’t believe that I have to back down on my values and beliefs for a social agenda. Let gays and lesbians organize their own national group after the manner of the Boy Scouts and call it whatever they want. To force an organization to change it’s values to accommodate the homosexual population is wrong.
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catty
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:47pmHoney all 5 of your eagle scouts were around gay people, you just didn’t know it.
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crushynn
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:12pmThat is exactly how I feel TC5BWE. Yes, Catty; my kids are around gays here & there but I’m not going to purposely encourage them to pattern themselves after one which is what we do in scouting.
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jungle J
Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:43pmcatty…who are you to call someone honey? act like a grown up.
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whatthecrazy
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:52pm@Catty gay much?
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TheCalmOne
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:47amStatistically there is a reasonable chance one of your kids is gay.
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Need to be FREE
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:24pmHave to change the name to Gay Scouts. Oh what fun in the woods.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:23pmThe Scouts have already suffered through predatory homosexual leader problems that worsened through the ’70s, ’80s, and part of the ’90s. The results were a large number of children likely damaged for life, and the Scouts themselves were almost sued out of business. Thankfully the Scouts handled their problem far better than the Catholic Church who suffered much of the same types of sexual assaults through the same time periods. Its as if a new generation of upper management and leadership is simply awash with a PC attitude and unaware of what happened a relatively short time ago. Now, they want to reopen this can of worms.
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turkey13
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:22pmGreat – I have already discussed with my 3 sons who went through Cubs & Boy Scouts. I was a leader since I didn’t want my sons exposed to Q_ueers or older boys expermenting on others as they developed their sexuality. These kids aren’t Q_ueers, they are just confused. All three of my sons told me not to worry about my 4 grand sons, becuase if they went through with this their boys won’t be in Cubs next year as planned. My sons remember when the Boy Scouts suggested they boycotte Levis jeans because of their support of Q_ueers and I can remember my whole family buying only Wrangler jeans ans still do.
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:21pmPlease libs do not start in on the old “they haven’t had sex yet scenario” If that is the stance you take then it qualifies as FEELINGS and there is no need for this discussion.
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FlagWavingPatriot
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:21pmThey might have got that many signatures, but they weren’t BSA families and members.
That claim is complete horsechit.
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normusa
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:39pmIs anyone in the BSA going to check or at least do a scientific sampling of the signers? It might be interesting to find out if these were all illegal aliens or residents of Cuba or Mars. I would really like to see some stats on the people who signed.
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cish60
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:42pmI agree, Flagwaving. As soon as I read the headline to this story, I thought, that can’t be possible.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:30pmI believe it. …1.4 million is really not that many people.
To put it into perspective, “Winger” has sold over 5 million albums.
Would any organization consider “Winger” fans to, en mass, be a serious social marketing threat?
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WVCOALMAN
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:20pmI woke up one morning (I think it was around November 2008) and found myself in a bad episode of the 1960′s Twilight Zone where I started living in an alternative universe where everything I knew is exactly opposite and upside down.
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ones-own-truth-and-ideals
Feb. 5, 2013 at 12:20ami wonder if we can twilight iurselves back to the real world this place is awful!
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firman
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:20pmOh look boys, Billy just “pitched a tent”.
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Revelation1.8
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:43pmI laughed so hard, I cried.
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Blackhawk1
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:19pmHere we go with people trying to gain acceptance of a morally disgusting, deviant, sexual choice. I don’t care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home. I wish they would quit trying to force the normal majority of us to say it’s O.K. because it is not!
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firman
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:33pmAmen! Especially when it involves kids.
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TheIggies
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:44pmPlease provide proof that is is wrong, and if your “proof” comes from the Bible immediately know that the Bible is not evidence in a court of law for why something should be abolished.
Lol morons and their fiction books ruin everyone’s good time.
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firman
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:02pmI don’t need anymore proof for my opinion than you do for yours. The boyscouts are a private group and can make whatever rules they want. Stick to screwin that horse in your avatar. His expression says it all.
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whatthecrazy
Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:08pm@ Theiggies Proof? It is simple really,leave the bible out if you will,your ignorance oops i mean choice.If we do not procreate than we will become extinct,Right? Can two men have a baby by themselves? NO? Can two women have a baby by themselves? NO? Do you get where im going with this?Most people get that gayness is not going away,Thats fine but we will not offer our children up on a platter for for them to devour.
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Dexter Alarius
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:19pmI think these are the same guys that collected absentee ballots for Al Franken’s election.
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frogg
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:18pmI find it hard to believe that Parents desire to have their boys molested!!!!! Sorry I don’t believe they had 1.4 million signatures!!!!!!!!!!!!
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:58pmIts not new, kids have been sent to christian schools and pushed into becoming alter boys forever
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huntinwabbits
Feb. 5, 2013 at 9:30amIt is the same signatures used for Obama to win the election (both times). I believe it includes disney characters and other mythical creatures as well as dead people dating back to 764 B.C. I guess I have a harder time then these people believing that someone named their child ‘Alexander the Great’, ‘Caveman 4398′ and ‘Napoleon Bonaparte’ in present day.
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LeadNotFollow
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:18pmGAYS do not belong in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts.
How would you like a gender confused kid sharing a tent with your straight kid?
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:34pmI’m sure they already do.
Maybe your kid is that confused kid?
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garbagecanlogic
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:18pmYeastinfection: Not sure what your progresive problem may be, however you sound like someone who should volunteer to do slug work for the obama camp. You seem to have a perverse way of taking a fact, twisting it, turning it and making it suit your mentally challenged mind. With your stand on things, I would have to ascertain that you may have a little (or a lot) of gay blood in your body. At least this type of action saves me money as I will no longer be espected to donate to the BSA.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Eastinfection
Feb. 4, 2013 at 6:55pmGARBAGECANLOGIC
1st response: Name calling.
2nd response: Name calling.
3rd response: Name calling.
Swell talking to you. GARBAGECANLOGIC, indeed. That looked fun though….
Hmm? You sound like one of those people that vote for Conservative Candidates primarily based on how much they detest those you find to be unsavory. WE no longer request your services. REAL CONSERVATIVES protect the Constitution & it’s ideals. WE will stand up for the rights of the BSA to practice as they see fit while simultaneously recognizing that they have to generate revenue, and respecting the social evolution they find themselves involuntarily immersed in, i don’t blame them for trying to dis-arm the social bomb they’ve been walking around holding. As Gary Gnu once said… “No Gnu’s is good Gnus”
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shorelineliz
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:16pmThe Boy Scouts of America are over. In 1998 Scouts Canada adopted an openly gay motto and 50% of the scouts left. They have had to sell camp sites and lay off staff because they lost half their support. All organizations change and some die. Time to start a new scouting program. Call it “Frontier Boys.” When the Girl Scouts changed and became all radicalized Feminism many Girl Scout leaders and their girls left and started other scouting groups for girls. Just call the time of death already on this organization. You will not win this fight. Don’t even bother. It’s like the Episcopal Church. Just leave it. Pack up and start over somewhere else. The Episcopal Church USA at one time had 2 million members in the 1940s. Now only about 600,000 attend. So the estimates are they have LOST 66 percent of their support. People vote with their FEET in any organization so I say to the Scout Leaders and Parents…..start walking and take your boys with you! I assure you that you will be relieved to leave and have this issue OUT of the way. Then you can simply just go camping and go do other things without this stressful and divisive issue in your face all the time.
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whatthecrazy
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:15pmBull, i say count the dead peoples signatures last so we can see the real names of the sick twisted people who think it’s ok for Chester the molester to take a bunch of kids into the woods for an overnighter. R.I.P scouts :(
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Blackhawk1
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:21pmI am sure NAMBLA is applauding these fools.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:31pmBack in the early ’90s I well remember the results of constant leadership homosexual predators caused as I started to volunteer as a leader. The national BSA was paying one lawsuit after another to the families of boys who had been assaulted. The rules changed drastically for their campsite building structures and older buildings were not grandfathered in. Doors had to open outwardly and could not have locks that prevented from being opened from the inside. There was the introduction of the Adirondack campsite structure that had one side open entirely and for weather protection could only have a canvas curtain. Nothing was allowed to hinder somebody’s escape if they felt necessary to get away from an adult or were actually under assault and could get away. But, today’s BSA upper management has learned nothing from it’s past.
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am123
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:13pmIt doesn’t matter if they had 1.4 billion signatures. The Boy Scouts should not allow or promote perversion. After all, statistics bear out that homosexuals are prone to pedophilia. So why would they want to open the gates to pedophilias going out on overnight trips into the woods with young boys?
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am123
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:21pmIf gays represent only 1% of the population, and if gays are no more inclined to engage in pedophilia than heterosexuals are, then it would follow that only 1% of child molesters would be gay. In other words, the next time a case of pedophilia comes up in the news, it would only be a 1 out of 100 chance it would involve a homosexual. However, reality belies this. If you took the next 100 cases of pedophilia to come up in the news (which is a random sample), will only 1 out of those 100 cases involve men molesting young boys? No, clearly it is much, much more than 1 out of a 100. In fact, the statistics are that gays, who represent only 1% of the general population, account for about a third (or 33%) of the pedophiles. So basic probability and statistics tells you that there is a vastly disproportionate amount of pedophiles in the gay population as compared to the overall population. The numbers don’t lie. Basic probability and statistics tell you that there is a disproportionate amount of pedophiles in the gay population as compared to the overall population, hence they are more prone to pedophilia. One perversion feeds and breeds other perversions. The Bible warns us about homosexuality for good reason.
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checkingbothsides
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:25pmSorry, could I get a link on some of those statistics? I’ve never seen that…
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am123
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:48pmHere is one link:
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3
However, one need consult a study to know that homosexuals account for way more than 1 in 100 pedophilia cases.
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dogdr
Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:02pmSorry, but the FRC is bot a source. Their “studies” ar a joke and accepted by exactly 0% of actual sexuality researchers. The numbers have NO evidence behind them. The article the FRC cites mentions that 33% of pedophiles are gay- they do not source it or show any evidence. They just state it and go from there. MANY studies show NO correlation between pedophilia and homosexuality. You guys hear something from a friend of a friend and suddenly it is true. Actual research reveals you are all a bunch of paranoid, terrified people afraid of the truth when it doesn’t match what you want to believe.
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Uncurable wound
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:11pmSay goodbye to scouts
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:18pmSo i guess we are to believe that there are so many 11 and 12 year old boys that are so certain that they prefer anal sex with other boys that the Scouts are willing to sacrifice everything that it stands for: honor, integrity DISCIPLINE. As a member years ago I can assure you that any pre teen and young teen male engaging in sexual intercourse with a FEMALE was immediately asked to leave. Why is it that it seems ok for boy on boy sex or conduct. So long Scouts is right. Let them have it.
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shorelineliz
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:23pmGoodbye Scouts. Start “Frontier Boys”. That is what people did how left the Girl Scouts. They started “Frontier Girls” and just started over. Let the little boy molesters have their way. Nothing is going to stop them. They have an insatiable hunger and lust for little boys. They have their fill. Then they wipe their mouths clean and look for their next victim. They are sexually thirsty for little boy’s flesh, meat and bones. They will never stop. Vampires. They are all vampires. Let them eat and eat and eat and devour what they can. Let them fulfill their lusts and appetites with each other filling their vile carcasses all the way down, down, down, to the dregs. Get your little boys away and safe from these sexual vampires. Protect them. I never ever agreed sending my children “away” to “overnight camps” without my supervision. This was NEVER a good idea. These organizations are filled with child molesters. These organizations seem to Attract these people in droves because it is EASY for them to have access to young flesh. Boys or girls. They don’t care. They are insatiable. Protect your children. Know where they are at all times, who they are with and what they are doing. Stop all these sleepovers. Keep your children home in their own beds and watch over them constantly. “The Devil prowls seeking whom he may devour.” It is easy to devour children. God gave them parents to protect them.
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guz75
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:50pm@SHORELINELIZ
Wow, you got a little bit into that for my liking. You seem to have an in depth understanding of the mind of a child molester?
Sometimes you can wind up protesting too much, creepy!!
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:53pmCome on shorelinz, its just the boy scouts. You make it sound like the kids are being sent to church or sunday school
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:00pmOh bullschitz. I wondered when someone would start the anti christian krap.
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:04pm..and as USUAL a story detailing a MUSLIM raping and murdering his own 5 year old doesn’t rate a comment from you anti christian intellectuals. Keep your bullschitz hypocrisy in the voting booths where you people excel at lies and deceit.
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:11pmWhy Strawberry, I have seen no objection to the comments relating to boy scouts impending orgy of child molesters but the usual outrage as soon as the truth is spoken. I guarantee you there are more cases in the church then you will ever see in the boy scouts and just because you accept it in the name of the lord, doesnt mean it is better
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:16pmOK Strawberry, Firstly Islam is not even a religion, its a hate crime and the father who I believe raped and then murdered his daughter, should die slowly and painfully. How was that?
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:20pmPerfect. Why do you assume I am Christian. Simply because I get tired of the same old hypocritical bullschit from you people?
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:31pmPerhaps if your “research” relied on a bit more than the AP articles you read about the Catholic church’s molesting priests, I might understand your comment about the church. But just like the rest of us, you have no REAL knowledge as to how many or how few pedophiles exist in the church. As it is, despite the news medias attempts to color perception with no real truth, the percentage is very very small and reflects nothing more than the average number of HUMANS in any profession. For example FOOTBALL COACHES. So please don’t BS us with some infinite knowledge over something you know nothing about. And besides what does your comment have to do with this article. I rest my case.
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:31pmyou people?
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:34pmYea “you people”: people who open mouth/type words before engaging brain.
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survivorseed
Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:57pmOh I see, in other words people with a differing opinion to you. Are you secretly showing me what hypocrisy is in order for me to see the error of my ways because someone not as switched on as I am might mistake it for your actual thoughts. Peace
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Uncurable wound
Feb. 4, 2013 at 4:10pmGood is now evil and evil is now good!
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:18pmBigotry was always bad, and it is good that bigots are no longer allowed to pretend to be good people.
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strawberry411a
Feb. 4, 2013 at 5:37pmOh so right. Now that you have just smeared millions of boyscouts who have no idea what you are talking about, GOOD JOB. Talk about bias.
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tbeachhead
Feb. 5, 2013 at 11:10amIt isn’t bigotry to wish not to worry about who is in my son’s tent on the camping trip is…or what his sexual proclivities are. Let me sleep with your nine year old daughter in my tent….and tell me who should be arrested…me or the father who trusted me! Shame is spelled in this manner, and now it’s time to get down, get humble and realize how we have fallen. God forgive us…
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