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Former SEAL and Friend of Chris Kyle Explains Why a PTSD Sufferer Would Be at a Range and Cautions Anti-Gun Advocates

Feb. 4, 2013 10:49am Liz Klimas

SOFREPs Brandon Webb Shares His Thoughts on the Shooting of Friend Chris Kyle

Chris Kyle (Source: Erik Tanner for TIME)

Former Navy SEAL Brandon Webb knew Chris Kyle for more than 10 years. Webb found out Saturday through a text message that Kyle had been murdered at a shooting range in Glen Rose, Texas, just before Webb had to give a speech about teamwork to high school basketball students.

Instead of bowing out of the speech to process this difficult information, Webb, the editor-in-chief of SOFREP (the Special Operations Forces Report), went forward with it. And although he has only had a couple days now to process what happened to his friend, a man who has been called “America’s deadliest sniper,” going forward Webb speculates anti-gun advocates will use the shooting of Kyle, 38, and Chad Littlefield, 35, as part of their agenda. But he feels it has no place there.

“My hope is not but my fear is that it does,” Webb said regarding the shooting at Rough Creek Lodge Saturday afternoon entering the current gun control debate. “This time is for his family and for an American hero and it should be left at that.”

We won’t know if President Barack Obama will include the deaths of Kyle and Littlefield in his speech regarding his gun control plan on Monday afternoon in Minneapolis, but Webb said he doesn’t think it is relevant.

“What’s applicable is the PTSD issue,” Webb said.

In fact, it was post-traumatic stress disorder that had Kyle and Littlefield at the shooting range Saturday in the first place. The two men brought 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, who has been charged with two counts of capital murder, to the range around 3 p.m. CST on Feb. 2 because he was supposedly having trouble with PTSD.

For many, a shooting range might seem like an unusual place to bring a person suffering with PTSD, but Webb said it is quite the opposite.

“It’s like guys going out and playing catch and talking about issues,” Webb said. “Every Marine is a rifleman. It’s a familiar environment. There’s a level of trust and the walls come down.”

Webb said that although Kyle is well-known for his best-selling book “American Sniper,” many don’t realize Kyle’s personal mission to help veterans.

“This guy had everything. His book was a phenomenal hit. He just sold the rights to the movie. … But he drove a pick-up truck and volunteered his time to help veterans,” Webb said.

Why? Because Kyle had trouble transitioning back after coming home from combat and someone had helped him. Webb too said he had a mentor when he was transitioning — that man was his friend Glen Doherty who was killed in the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

“The big issue is transition from military to civilian life,” Webb said. “You get one a one week class and you’re on your a** outside.”

The class Webb is referring to is the Transition Assistance Program.

“It’s not enough. The VA does good things, but it has become a bureaucracy and people are slipping through the cracks.”

Webb noted the paper work and channels necessary to go through to get help from Veterans Assistance being a “f***ing nightmare.”

“It’s bureaucratic and hard to navigate,” Webb continued.

So that’s why Kyle, Webb and other men like them reach out to soldiers going through transition. To help them work through the bureaucracy to get the help they need and to be someone that Webb describes as “in the club” — someone with the same experiences who can truly understand them.

“It’s a trust thing,” Webb said. “You’re not going to put a Marine combat vet in front of some medical psychologist whose biggest fear is their drive to work …it’s why former alcoholics and drug abusers are in that circle talking to people who need help.”

In addition to Kyle showing a continued service to his country by helping veterans, Webb described the man, who is survived by his wife and two children, as a “larger than life Texan.”

The men first met at SEAL Team Three just after 9/11. He was the new guy on the team, but Webb said he had a presence like that of Clint Eastwood in an old Western.

“He was like an old cowboy hero,” Webb continued. “He was soft spoken but meant what he said and said what he meant. With him, you know exactly where he stands.”

Webb met Kyle again when he was a sniper student and Webb the instructor. Later the two became closer friends when they left the Teams and Kyle appeared on SOFREP’s web-based show “Inside the Team Room.”

The group of “Inside the Team Room.” Kyle sits on the far left and Webb sits second from the right. (Photo: SOFREP)

As for Saturday’s speech, Webb said it was difficult but good.

Although he was stunned when he was informed via a text message from sources he had at a Texas police department about Kyle’s death, he knew he had to deliver one final talk after a day filled with them at the high-school basketball tournament.

“I thought I need to pull it together. I thought, ‘what would Chris want?’” Webb said, noting that the team he spoke with knew nothing of what just happened, nor did he mention it. It produced his most inspirational talk that day.

For those wanting to help Kyle’s family, America’s Mighty Warriors is collecting donations under “Chris Kyle Memorial.” Glenn Beck’s Mercury One will also be collecting donations that will be given to FITCO Cares, a foundation started by Kyle. Webb said his foundation — the Red Circle Foundation — will send donations made in honor of Kyle to the appropriate fund established to help his family.

Keep up with coverage regarding the shooting of Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield here. SOFREP also posted a moving tribute to Kyle by his sniper instructor and friend Eric Davis here.

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ronin_6
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 2:32pm
Getting PTSD sufferers to engage in the activities that contributed to their emotional trauma is an accepted method of therapy. Walter Reed has a skeet range. We had a shooting club at the Ft. Lewis Warrior Transition Battalion. At those locations the soldier had to be psychologically evaluated first. That obviously didn’t happen here. I applaued Mr. Kyle’s line of thought, but maybe he should have checked with the guys that do this all the time. After you have dealt with 80 or so of these guys you know which ones will benefit and which ones should maybe be kept away from guns.
May he and his buddy rest well. They have earned it.

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morasha18
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 2:27pm
“PTSD” has been used to describe the condition of the persons brain,thinking and perception ability after a traumatic experience or period of traumatic experience overwhelms the persons ability to perform human functions in a non threatening enviornment. Unless the accused was in the habit of killing freindlys while serving overseas, I don’t see it as a justification for killing the person who could help you: by shooting them from behind? My understanding of of the PTSD experience is a revisiting of previous experiences and feeling as though you have been returned to a condition where your life is in jeopardy, and you respond accordingly, sometimes violently. Here is my concern: first PTSD can be a term that is used as a blanket justification for any unforseen behavior that may come from a veteran (inappropriately I might add).Those who use the term PTSD need to be careful that it is used appropritely to discribe actual clinical applications. I have never known of cases of PTSD to kill freindlies, then have the presence of mind to steal the victims car, drive home and call family members to tell them that you just killed somebody; and then wait at home for the consequences. Mental unbalance for sure, but PTSD doesn’t seem to fit Routh’s actions. Second; the debate over mental health is full of mine fields.Applying the diagnosis from the understanding we have of mental health could be used against “normal” citizens to acheive the removal of guns from us all!

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- Knot4u2no
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:20pm
  Good post … glad I read it before essentially writing a duplicate.
  
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- LeFaux Jew
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 4:52pm
  Also since 18%-25% OF our police officers are conservatively estimated to have PTSD over the lengths of their career, do they generally go around killing the friendly people?
  
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Inkmage
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:38pm
Definitely sad news, I thought this guy was amazing- I know he was even having a character done after him for a game. I wasn’t too surprised when I heard about the shooter having PTSD, that’s some serious stuff, not many know about it- and the people suffering with it, do not get enough help for it. I’ve seen that with two friends of mine who have it.

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Gargent_Furball
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 12:53pm
No mention of Congressmen or senators individuality. In general the US Government has failed
in just about everything it touches.

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Gargent_Furball
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 12:51pm
This is just bad. You cannot turn off and on a killing machine like a light switch.

After combat, there needs to be time to decompress and slow down.

4 years of service followed by two years of reconditioning. The US Government is Stupid.

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- Ditto Head
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:37pm
  No, they pretty much know exactly what they are doing.
  They pretty well have it perfected.
  
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loveliberty83
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:47am
also after the 2 great wars , the canadian & American Legions the soldiers went to & talked things out with a drink with fello wariors who helped each other just like Chris was doing soldiers are the best for each other not some pompous doctor who does not have a clue about war

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loveliberty83
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:44am
My father was aveteran of both WW1 & 11 in fact his brother was a prisoner of war WW1, they were young kids, many hid their PTS in the bottle > I believe they did not attack or try to kill others, morals & taught respect of others was ingrain in their beliefs –Most had the basic Christian beliefs of the 10 commandments, we need to o back 7 start teaching these beleifs even if one is not Christian

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jrcess
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:38am
The shooter’s connection to CIA or Biden and Obama! That is the question that needs an answer.

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doomytram
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:30am
Someone with or without PTSD should kill the POS that killed our American Hero’s. This is a disgusting travesty that doesn’t sit well with Patriotic Americans.

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- Deb C
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Or, a lover’s triangle
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:26am
“The big issue is transition from military to civilian life,” Webb said. “You get one a one week class and you’re on your a** outside.”
_________________

Is this by design..? If it wasn’t ,it is NOW..!

This Administration has successfully implemented ‘the art of INACTION’ ..

That creates a pseudo atmosphere that requires ACTION in response .

That will mold this country closer to their hearts desire.

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rabblechat
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:24am
If the powers that be use one instance as an excuse to strip all vets, who have PTSD of their rights
How many vets do you think will answer the questions in the PTSD screenings honestly, knowing the ramifications of a positive diagnosis?
End result will be a lot of vets that could be helped with counseling not seeking out treatment to avoid the diagnosis.

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RRFlyer
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:19am
I do remember coming back from Vietnam, the big thing then was “All Vietnam helicopter pilots are crazy” It was years before people looked at me in a good way after finding out I had been a pilot in Vietnam. This myth was perpetuated in shows like, “A team” and any movie containing Vietnam Vets.

Yes, all wars have had veterans returning with , “Shell Shock” but it took Vietnam to politicize it and make all veterans evil. And this administration will be glad to escalate that lie

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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:42am
  And now you have John Kerry as Secretary of State.
  
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- glckgrl
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:58am
  Sadly, I fear you may be right. Thank you very much for your service to this great nation. Please remember there are many of us who have always loved and respected our veterans; most of us are NOT like JaneTraitorFonda or BathhouseBarry. We love our vets and respect you also!
  
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- LeFaux Jew
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 4:57pm
  That is exactly right…they called it “shell shock” in the old days.
  I remember my high school English teacher. A very gentle man, almost effeminate.
  Many of the kids used to make fun of him until one of the other teachers said he was at Normandy, and had shell shock.
  
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ECOMCON
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:18am
Most likely a simple solution to the issue of 1 week and then you’re back in the world would be taking some more time to decompress. The returning vets from previous days used to return via a slow boat ride home. I would take anywhere from a month to 6 months or more (depending on whether or not they were assigned to another spot in the world as billet troops). This would enable enough time to acclimate themselves, and they were always surrounded by others who had the same traumatic experiences (rear echelon troops besides) and would be able to share and talk. This is sadly what Kyle was doing. Our world is running just too fast nowadays. Some things take time to mend, and especially so the brain. Granted, there was a lot of shell shock (port traumatic blah blah blah in today’s speak) amongst returning vets no matter how long they took to get home. I wasn’t of era, so I can’t say for sure, but it’s my belief that it was before the nuclear family had been destroyed by the left, so there were a lot of close support systems for the vets, more so than today. Yes we have more recognition and trained specialists to deal with the psychological condition now, but nothing heals better than family and time.

Rip Chris Kyle.

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- Tiberius
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:25am
  wars have existed from Adam and Eve. Now we all have PTSD
  
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Tigress1
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:14am
Be careful, VERY careful.
#39 of the 45 Communist Goals:

” Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.”

It is so easy to crack down on the mentally ill and prohibit guns from these people, but what if the psychiatric profession (which we know is LOADED with Progressives) decides to claim that EVERYBODY has some form of mental illness? This is just tooooo easy. Beware!

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

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- vampiresmurf
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:51am
  tigress
  
  ” Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.”
  
  when i joined the Navy kicking out people at the recruiting station and later at the base because when they were kids there parents, school, shrink said the kids had ADD, you name it, they were put on drugs of some kind, as the policy of the mid/late 80s and 90s, all kids were on some form of medication. when i later got my med board, we had from 40-160 people going home on 2 week cycles because there parents put them on drugs as kids, many never knew about it. reasoning behind kicking them out, Navy said, we dont know what these drugs did or do to kids and we do not want them going nuts with a gun on board. so it would seem here is the policy coming home to the full spectrum of Americans, some shrink will say you cant have the 2nd because you took pills as a kid, why? well the military says it could be a problem so were just going by what they say and do.
  it is as you say,, way to easy for someone in a coat leaning left to say we are all mentally ill, how many doctors will stand up for what is right when that day comes. it took them all of 2 days to jump on drugging kids to fix there issues and 20 years for them to say it was wrong.
  yeah i expect alot of help from them people when the king tells them to make sure everyone is mentally ill.
  
  great post by the way, loved it
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:11am
In re legitimacy of PTSD, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades only as common sense.

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- RaydocX
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:25am
  the biggest problem i have with PTSD is that psychologists and shrinks are applying to EVERYONE now… stuck for an hour in an elevator? PTSD… abused by your spouse? PTSD… test anxiety? PTSD
  
  while anxiety disorders clearly could result from or be uncovered by those, PTSD in its definitions and applications is not a catch all… the victims in wars, in the same situation as the soldiers DO NOT have the symptoms… military docs hypothesize it’s the expectation to kill, not even the actual taking of life, that contributes…
  
  since Vietnam the policy of simply ‘turning out’ returning troops who are leaving the service has been a disservice to our veterans and ultimately to their communities and the county at large…
  
  whether it’s assigning mentors, and monitoring their dedication and success, or devloping a destressing city, such as the test cities some companies have built, giving the returning troops a place to readjust with people who understand what they’ve been through, our nation’s military could have… and should now do a better job of getting the survivors of these wars back to real life.
  
  WWII troops were not immune, witness the thousand yard stares and the trailing off your grandfathers exhibited. But they came back to a jubilant country that recognized their sacrifice… even with victories that is not the case today; it’s ‘thanks, now get to work, ignore that truck backfiring or the suspicious behavior of that group.’
  
  PTSD is real, but it
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:02pm
  @RaydocX, You have a point. While PTSD is real, I think the “shrink” community, to get self approval, and the disability payout model as a new entitlement helps. We didn’t have all these problems during WWI and II. This is similar to ADD, which was treated in the past by correcting a child who acts out.
  
  Reminds me of the song by Gracie Slick, and the pills for anything that ales you.
  
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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:47pm
  “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. Th
  
  New International Version (©1984)
  “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
  New Living Translation (©2007)
  “Put away your sword,” Jesus told him. “Those who use the sword will die by the sword.
  
  English Standard Version (©2001)
  Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
  
  New American Standard Bible (©1995)
  Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.
  
  Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
  Then Jesus told him, “Put your sword back in its place because all who take up a sword will perish by a sword.
  
  International Standard Version (©2012)
  Jesus told him, “Put your sword back in its place! Everyone who uses a sword will be killed by a sword.
  
  King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
  Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
  
  Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
  Then Yeshua said to him, “Return the sword to its place, for all of those who take up swords will die by swords.
  
  GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
  Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword away! All who use a sword will be killed by a sword.
  
  King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
  
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- DissenterKnight
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:04am
  I dislike repeating myself, but I dislike misuse of the scripture even more. So, I’ll repeat myself.
  
  Matthew 26: 52 to 54 [King James translation] Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Or thinkest thou that I cannot beseech my Father, and he shall even now send me more than twelve legions of angels? How then should the scriptures be fulfilled that thus it must be?
  
  This verse comes from the moment in which the authorities come to arrest Christ; first notice that Christ doesn’t tell the disciple, to hand his sword over to the authorities, just to but it back in its scabbard.
  
  Matthew Henry, 17th Century commentator, interpreted the passage as a call to slow and measured response, “They that take the sword before it is given them, that use it without warrant or call, expose themselves to the sword of war, or public justice.”
  
  Hugo Grotius, 16th Century theologian had a different position on the meaning of the passage. He reads Christ’s comment as meant not for Peter, who tradition holds struck the blow, but for the Jewish officers and soldiers who came with swords to take Christ. Peter did not need to draw his sword to punish these men, God would deal with them. History supports that view in that while they had taken the Roman sword to seize Christ, in short order they, the Sanhedrin and the nation were destroyed by that same Roman sword.
  
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FIREANDBRIMSTONE
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:10am
When you live by the gun. You will ultimately die by it.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:12am
  When you live a lie then you eventually die of the lie.
  
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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:15am
  Live by the sword… Die by the sword.
  just saying
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:21am
  What happens if you live by bad cliche?
  
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- Tiberius
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:22am
  moron
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:22am
  Possibly, but if you do, you usually do it on your feet, not on your knees begging, or in chains weeping. Personally I would rather go out a free man, than a hobbled slave
  
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- RLTW
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:23am
  When you live by a progressive ideology you will ultimately suffer and die at the hands of the radical leaders you prop up.
  
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- paulwbrown
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:26am
  To me, your comment is asinine if you intended it to be critical as I read it. He did live by the gun as all warriors have to do, whether military or law enforcement. How many of his fellow warriors were saved by his sniper skills we will never know, but I am confident the number is significant. Where would we be be if none of the good guys wanted to “live by the gun?” The obvious answer is a subjugated / enslaved country, dominated by criminals and / or another country is the answer.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:53am
  At Fire and Walnuts – when you live ignorantly, you don’t know why you die.
  
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- DissenterKnight
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:55am
  That verse, Revelation 13: 10 is among the most misquoted and misinterpreted verses in Scripture; right up there with “Judge not, least you be judged”. We, all of us, have a passion for draping our personal points of view in the inspired, infallible word of the Almighty. I’m not surprised that you’d jump to that verse in an attempt to add weight to your stand on gun control.
  
  Scripture must be taken in context, not in sound bites, so let’s crack open the context on this verse.
  
  Revelation, 13: 7 to 10: (King James translation) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear . He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
  
  Revelation 13 talks about the Beasts of John’s vision, the opponents / adversaries that will be unleashed on the world at the end of all. Various commentators have written of verse 10 as either a warning to those who would oppress God’s people or lead them astray of His teaching. Either way, what the verse is not is a call to peaceful submission through disarmament.
  
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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 12:06pm
  Matt 26:52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
  Do I need to get any clearer?
  Not a cliche.
  
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- DissenterKnight
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 12:27pm
  Alright, let’s unpack that whole verse too.
  
  Matthew 26: 52 to 54 [King James translation] Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Or thinkest thou that I cannot beseech my Father, and he shall even now send me more than twelve legions of angels? How then should the scriptures be fulfilled that thus it must be?
  
  This verse comes from the moment in which the authorities come to arrest Christ; first notice that Christ doesn’t tell the disciple, to hand his sword over to the authorities, just to but it back in its scabbard.
  
  Matthew Henry, 17th Century commentator, interpreted the passage as a call to slow and measured response, “They that take the sword before it is given them, that use it without warrant or call, expose themselves to the sword of war, or public justice.”
  
  Hugo Grotius, 16th Century theologian had a different position on the meaning of the passage. He reads Christ’s comment as meant not for Peter, who tradition holds struck the blow, but for the Jewish officers and soldiers who came with swords to take Christ. Peter did not need to draw his sword to punish these men, God would deal with them. History supports that view in that while they had taken the Roman sword to seize Christ, in short order they, the Sanhedrin and the nation were destroyed by that same Roman sword.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:08am
Thanks Mr. Webb. If a felon may properly be disbarred his rights under color of law, then we can all be legally disarmed merely by sufficiently lowering the bar of felony – as is being done to veterans now, and has been done to alleged abusers and resistant citizens. Godly people are armed with wits, guns and the Truth.. God Bless Bitter Clingers, damn gun-grabbers on the left and the right.

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- woodyee
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:17am
  Well said.
  
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- rabblechat
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:39am
  I couldn’t agree more! Most people fail to realize that a law abiding citizen can be turned into a “criminal” with just the stroke of a pen.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:07am
Kyle died trying to help a fellow warrior. He lived by the same standards in peace as he did in war. I hope he is laid to rest in Arlington National among his fellow heroes.

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WillG
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:07am
Sad,sad day. If this were a celebrity there would be 24/7 live coverage in the media. The funeral would broadcast live and all of America would be in mourning. True Heros such as this man deserve that type of attention but alas no.

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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:02am
PTSD – so many approaches possible to take gun rights away.

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- FIREANDBRIMSTONE
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:11am
  Paranoid much? Obama has been POTUS for 4 years now. Im willing to be you still own your guns. You extreme right wingers are worse than the extreme left wingers.
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:28am
  FB… troll elsewhere.
  It’s ALREADY HAPPENING, you lemming.
  do everyone a favor and lead your ilk off the cliff instead of following.
  we know you aren’t worried about firearms… you would not know which end to point where
  (and there would be lots of ‘help’ offered from here if you only asked)
  
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hauschild
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:02am
PTSD – Another sham implemented by progressives to label those that can’t deal with reality.

Sad.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:14am
  Obviously Kyle didn’t agree with your assessment. He was out there trying to help his fellow warriors adjust to life outside of the military. If Kyle believed it was a real phenomenon, that’s good enough for me. He certainly knew and saw more about it than I did. Although PTSD may be over diagnosed, I don’t think it is a myth. I think we owe the men and women that fight and die for our country the benefit of doubt.
  
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- 1911CK
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:17am
  You need to do some valid research. PTSD was very real for all veterans of our wars. It may not have been diagnosed at the time, but the effects were very real for some. And it may be over-diagnosed today but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. That’s like saying testicular cancer didn’t exist in the middle ages. Of course it did.
  
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- hauschild
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:48am
  You can excuse abhorrent behavior until the cows come home by labeling those that perpetrate it as suffering from some “condition”. Me? I don’t buy it. Additionally, it does a huge disservice to the vets of those our wars (WWI/WWII) that REALLY had it bad – and you don’t read accounts of any of those people shooting people up. Back then, people were told the truth: Things happen in life, but you have to deal with it. Grow up!
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:58pm
  Nobody is excusing anyone’s behavior. Neither are we dismissing PTSD as some liberal plot to destroy America. Plenty of guys from earlier wars suffered the same symptoms. Read “Unbroken” about Louie Zamperini. They had plenty of problems. To totally dismiss the suffering a lot of these men endure is abhorrent behavior in my opinion.
  
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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:01am
Yes, his family will need ( deserves ) help.

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walnutportconservative
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:59am
This PTSD is going to become an issue here. After it gets press and is drawn into this story, the left will justify many new angles, which they have already thought through. I have a son who was given a purple heart??? He will not be able to purchase weapons because he will be told, or convinced, that he too has PTSD. This will cover alot of people. It’s about control. Watch once what I tell you. Be careful!

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DennisNJ
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:59am
PTSD is a real issue that the government seems to ignore. Veterans are not a priority. Especially disabled vets.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:18am
  I agree. The POTUS is more worried about the millionaires in the NFL suffering head injuries than our vets.
  
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- Crazyotto
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:57am
  I am a disabled Navy Veteran but mine is medical in nature and was not a result of combat. So are you implying that the government may try to confiscate my firearms? Or are you referring to Combat Vets.?
  
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DennisNJ
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:56am
PTSD is a real problem that the government seems to ignore.

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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:03am
  They won’t ignore it now… they will use it for their AGENDA
  
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- hauschild
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:05am
  Why wasn’t PTSD a problem for Civil War, or WWI or WWII vets???
  
  It’s just another BS label that tries to excuse losers.
  
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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:12am
  I think Jesus can help, we need just ask. He has helped me through so, so much. My son will need to work things out with Jesus, and stay away from man and government counselors
  
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- WillG
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:20am
  Never heard of shell shock or battle fatigue Haus?
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:31am
  callus demonstration of your ignorance, Haus,
  
  EVERY war has had psychological victims… the biblical description after Jericho includes note that the army could not reenter the city until they had spent time in the surrounding dessert. Generals who were similarly afflicted as their troops by what we now call PTSD learned to stay away from ‘normal’ people until they had a specific time to get it together.
  
  today the generals and ESPECIALLY the politicians aren’t exposed, so it is no concern to throw them back into society.
  
  and with the attitude of people like you, it’s no wonder vets fear mentioning their problems even to those they think they are close to.
  
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- hauschild
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:49am
  I’m really tired of candy asses telling me why being candy-assed is okay.
  
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