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Pastor Calls Citizens to Defend Gun Rights With ‘Violent Aggressive Opposition’ & ‘Bloodshed’ (if Needed)

Feb. 4, 2013 8:19am Billy Hallowell

Terry Jones, the pastor known for fiery anti-Islam rhetoric and for his very-public Koran-burning, released a shocking statement this morning through his organization, Stand Up America. Entitled, “Banning Guns: Resistance to the Point of Bloodshed,” the three-paragraph press release calls for the nation to potentially meet Second Amendment crackdowns with “fierce opposition.” Additionally, Jones implores the public to combat “disarming” to the point of bloodshed, if needed.

“The disarming of Americans cannot be tolerated by the American people to the point of resistance even to the shedding of blood,” the statement reads. “History has taught us whether it be the Russian revolution or whether it be the Nazi era, that as a government disarms its own people, leaving the people with no opportunity and no possibility to defend itself, leads to the destruction of our civilization.”

Terry Jones Encourages Americans to Defend Second Amendment With Bloodshed if Needed

Terry Jones burning an effigy of President Barack Obama (Photo Credit: YouTube)

Jones goes on to say that the public has two enemies — criminals and the government. The faith leader then calls for the latter institution to be tied down “with the chains of the Constitution” so that it “does not become a legalized version of the first.” While the aforementioned statements will certainly raise eyebrows, it is the concluding statements that are, perhaps, most controversial.

“Every generation needs a revolution. We must resist the disarming of the American people, if necessary, with violent aggressive opposition,” Jones proclaims. “The tree of liberty must be, from time to time, refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

TheBlaze reached out to Stand Up America to speak further about intentions behind the press release. A representative declined to comment in detail, however we are awaiting a response from Jones.

These comments come on the heels of an event the pastor held last month called “Burn Obama Day,” during which he decried “universal deceit” and subsequently burned an effigy of the president. Watch it all unfold, below:

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ashestoashes
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:49am
@BLACKCROW..I’m with you..the human part of me was thinking ..Wow..what a bunch of P SS IES..You people do know that you are not going to get raptured out of Tribulations..right? Read Matt 24 and 2 Thess 2 I was thinking that you will just bend over and spread em..and take it like the good little Christians that you are..We are not supposed to resist Satan..right? Then I think about what the Bible says about love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you..so I guess we are supposed to spread em and bend over…it goes against every human grain of dignity that I have and I can’t help but despise all of you wimpy ignorant people..

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- SwampFoxHiggy
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:55am
  I was thinkin the same thing about Matthew 24. this is barely the beginning, and the majority of Christians believe they won’t experience the first hardship, and just ride off on the clouds after the first earthquake…. there will be much pain and suffering for believers and non-believers alike, before we are taken up with Christ in all His Glory…. some people need to brush up on their theology…
  I for one, will fight the spiritual and physical wars until Christ calls me, or death takes me.
  
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ExtremeRight
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:46am
The man is right. What are you bunch of losers, gutless, HOMOSexuals complaining about. If you all had the set of balls this man has we would not be in this mess.
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:05am
  I realize many Christians view this guy as a prophet and one who speaks the word of God. And I can understand the appeal he has to many of you. He virulently anti-Muslim and anti-Obama. And a real Christian unafraid to speak allowed his Christian values.
  
  But as far as this “disarming” business goes, he is suffering from the same delusion that many of you are. There is no legislation put forth to “disarm” people; i.e. “take your guns away.” As people like to say here, that’s a straw man.
  
  You are free to worship this guy and cheer on the good work he does under the banner of Christianity. You will continue I’m sure to pray that his good works continue and hope he continues to burn President Obama in effigy and so forth. But please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the gun control debate, rather than simply talk fall back to Hitler analogies, Koran burning etc.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:13am
  @SENDINTHEMETEORS..Yes..focus on the gun debate..there will be no debating…
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:25am
  SENDTHEMETEORS
  “But please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the gun control debate, rather than simply talk fall back to Hitler analogies, Koran burning etc.”
  
  If you’re so naive as to expect that this community organizer and his Orwellian propagandist minions don’t have eventual disarmament in mind, then you’re too naive to speak on the subject let alone give people advice on what they should do.
  
  But, of course, your purpose is not to give advice. It’s pretty obvious you think you’re doing your part in fooling gun advocates that there’s no cause for alarm.
  
  Grow up. The psychology you employ is strictly on the high school level.
  
  Incidentally, don’t you think it is odd for somebody like you to defend Muslims who believe in stoning to death or hanging homosexuals? They amount to millions in this country now, and as they get more numerous they will make their views known here very likely by setting a few examples.
  
  That’s not good news for your group. Not quite a rainbow utopia, is it?
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:41am
  http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/why-is-government-stockpiling-guns-ammo/
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:59am
  Independent4233, yes, I’ve heard a lot about these right wing conspiracy “secret plans” for the last four years. The ones to “take away your guns,” declare martial law, put conservatives in FEMA concentration camps, to prevent the 2012 election and make President Obama king, hyperinflation, revolution, black helicopters, UN takeover of the US, and that Democrats want to create a dictatorship and enslave the population.
  
  You really don’t need a high school psychology class to see those ideas for what they are. You just need to be rational.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:11am
  @Independent
  
  I implore you to no longer attempt to speak to or with the ones who want a ‘debate’ or ‘conversation’. Their entire mission is to muddle the issue, lie, mislead, and generally try to make your rights into a negotiable quantity. I strongly suggest (take it up as you wish, or not) a simple “You are wrong, there is no debate, we will have no conversation, and we will oppose you and everybody like you. Good day” and then never speaking to them again.
  
  Just my thoughts on the matter. These people have no acquaintance with the truth and don’t care what lies or distortions or spin they have to use in order to convince you to give up your rights, or to confuse you enough to throw you off the scent of defending your rights. They are either evil, or tools of evil, conversation is not warranted with them.
  
  Just a suggestion.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:29pm
  SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:59am
  “Independent4233, yes, I’ve heard a lot about these right wing conspiracy “secret plans” for the last four years. The ones to “take away your guns,” declare martial law, put conservatives in…”
  
  Did you hear about how they were going to kick-ass and prowl for paybacks when the time is right, too?:
  
  That’s the one you should really concentrate on, because it represents the greatest threat to the homosexual agenda.
  
  “You really don’t need a high school psychology class to see those ideas for what they are.”
  
  Who said you did? Your reading comprehension isn’t quite up to par is it? The point you failed to grasp is that your attempts at psychological ploys are on a high school level…….. obviously.
  
  “You just need to be rational.”
  
  “Rational?”
  
  Hahahahaha. You mean like expecting to usher in a rainbow utopia where everybody is holding hands, drinking a coke and singing in perfect harmony, which will also include homsexuals and people who engage in bestiality?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:54pm
  @Sendthemeteors
  
  “I realize many Christians view this guy as a prophet and one who speaks the word of God.”
  
  Terry Jones’ church has only a few dozen parishoners. He’s as “mainstream” as the Westboro Baptist Church is; that is to say, not at all. He’s in the news because he acts in a manner that gets him into the news.
  
  He’s in it for profit, not to be a prophet.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 2:04pm
  GhostOfJefferson
  “I implore you to no longer attempt to speak to or with the ones who want a ‘debate’ or ‘conversation’. Their entire mission is to muddle the issue, lie, mislead, and generally try to make your rights into a negotiable quantity.”
  
  Of course that’s their intent. They call it “fighting the good fight,” and they think they’re a roaring success at it, but they’re blind to their own ineptitudes. Most of them are homosexual activists, also.
  
  They live in a reality all of their own making and they have some idea based in unmitigated arrogance that they possess the ability to change people’s thoughts.
  
  But by responding substantively to them it has the advantage of putting forth damaging information about the ill effects of liberalism in general and the spread of diseases and other pathologies rife within the homosexual communities, over and over again.
  
  “I strongly suggest a simple “You are wrong, there is no debate, we will have no conversation….”
  
  No, I don’t agree. If everybody would just ignore them so would I, but they always draw comments, because they’re easy to refute. I usually don’t read what they have to say unless I accidently do so not realizing who the poster is.
  
  Too, I’m sorry, but I have to admit I really enjoy slamming them if I have the time, and a lot of the information I bring up isn’t known by a few conservatives, so it gives them more ammunition to use later on.
  
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- proliance
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 6:16pm
  Extremeright, are you also a member of the Westboro Baptist Church?
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:40pm
  GHOST, good response to INDEPENDENT. You’re certainly known by the company you keep. Here’s a guy for whom the idea of trying to keep bangers, felons, murders and terrorists from buying guns reminds him of bestiality. And who has revenge fantasies about homosexuals (talk about psychology 101!). Awesome. Definitely your crowd. Why don’t you link him up to your anarchist website? He’ll fit right in.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:53pm
  SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:40pm
  “GHOST, good response to INDEPENDENT. ”
  
  Hahahahahahahahaha!
  
  He slams you and your ilk throughout his post, and you laud him for it.
  
  You don’t need any enemies. There’s none greater than yourself.
  
  Hahahaha!
  
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Independent4233
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:38am
If you’ve ever wondered why Muslims are so effective in keeping leftest mouths closed and are treated with deference it is their willingness to commit violence in support of their beliefs.

No leftist geek on the planet has the courage to criticize Muslims even when they preach open rebellion in their mosques in Western countries. And the reason they don’t is because they know critcizing these people will bring a violent reaction from them and the left is afraid of ANYBODY that means business.

Just look at the homosexuals who come on here viciously denigrating Christians with the vilest of rhetoric, because they don’t believe in mainstreaming perversions.

Muslims are even more rabidly agains homosexuals and hang them or stone them to death, yet not one peep from the homosexuals against them. They’re afraid of them, because they’re prepared to commit violence in support of their beliefs. The others on the left display the same kind of cowardice.

And who gets treated with more respect nowadays in the ongoing racial battles? Blacks of course, because the left knows they’ll riot and burn down neighborhoods if they are treated with special privileges.

And who is disdained, spat upon, ridiculed and hated by the left? Peace-loving Christians of course who are too timid to rise up in anger over the abuse they receive. They are regarded as safe Whipping boys by the left.

This pastor knows that. That’s why he’s going extreme.

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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:54am
  The appetite for sin is insatiable therefore their desire would turn to something more masochistic.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:46am
  If this Pastor is true Christanity, than that religion is damnable, filled with petty, violent, hate filled racists no different than their radical muslim counter parts.
  
  Jones isn’t a pastor, he is a traitor and a terrorist, preaching hate.
  
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- olderjarhead
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:46am
  Coming from a non-religious slant, I agree with your sentiment. Just replace white working guy, with Christian. It’s all the same. We have become a society that is defined by the lowest common denominator. And shame on any of you to criticize that, or point out the truth. The left will be standing by to label you a bigotted, homophobic, racist.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:56am
  @ENCNOM Congratulations ENCINOM..it seems that you represent a lot of these gutless wonders..
  
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- jeffersonian1776
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:26pm
  Encemen despises racist people, hey I’m not racist but I would rather be around those of my likeness; that being said, since when is being racist a crime. He equates it with terrorism, which is a crime. You cannot legislate against racism, nor discrimination. The government is the only ones not allowed to discriminate. You are free to love others, but you aren’t free to hate? If you cannot hate others or be a discriminate person–then you are not a free person! If a black carpenter I search out to remodel my home really hates white people, should he be allowed to tell me simply that he just doesn’t have time to do the job or really extremely overbid the job because he simply doesn’t like me? How could you possibly legislate something like that, which would force him to do the job (say at market prices, and not what he wanted to charge me cause I’m white), and is, therefore, forcing to do something against his will. That is immoral, and such laws would be immoral–giving the government the power to “read minds” basically, because they would thus be able to force someone to do something against their will and having the ability to tell an individual “we know why you didn’t want to serve him/her/ or them!” That is a dangerous proposition, is it not? Look I think it would be stupid for somebody to throw away an economic opportunity of making money based on something as stupid as skin color–but more importantly, we cannot allow the government to control us this way
  
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- jeffersonian1776
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:27pm
  So on that note I say, power to the haters
  
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- jeffersonian1776
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:41pm
  Oh I’m sorry, that wasn’t PC of me was it now. But I’ve never been too PC either. I was once at a party with a bunch of PC libs where some women were talking about abortion and “women’s rights.” I buuted in to tell them about a girl I went to college with who was froma wealthy family. She got pregnant (close to graduation, but would have affected grad schooling) and told them that she had an abotion because it would have severely affected her continuing her education and that she would then have been personally responsible for payinf for education. The girls I was speaking to felt such empathy for the poor (rich) girl in college who would have had to continue in school paying for this “parasitic” child too. That was until I told her that, “yeah, but we all knew exactly why she went ahead with the abortion, it was because her father would have cut off paying for her education and she would have had to pay for it all herself–because we all knew who she got pregnant by, and she was embarrased, and would have probably been disowned by her father, yep, she got pregnant by a black guy and was ashamed to have a child that was black.” You should have seen their demeanor change so rapidly, and boy did they quit talking about abortion after I told them this true story. You see it’s okay to abort for economic reasons which them libs love, but if you are a white girl aborting a black child, now that’s a big big no-no.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 6:31pm
  @encinom: Even more adjectives this time i see. Soon you have it narrowed down to about 10 people.
  
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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:38am
If the enemy were just about to divide a child in two – then what would one say ?

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- ExtremeRight
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:07am
  If cutting one of my 3 children in half would save the others then so be it. I have 3 little boys. I would die a thousand horrible deaths for them. I am Cuban born and have seen my parents jailed and my uncle executed. You are a coward. “There is nowhere to run from here. Here we make a stand or die”. Those were the words of my grandfather. You are a coward.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:36am
  Sorry, that won’t intimidate me – I know better – You can try others though, I’ve had too many fights- kinda like ” Jeremiah Johnson.”
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:49am
  What I said is in the Bible. Sorry, You misunderstood. Take it up with the Lord !
  
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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:09am
  I don’t get it?
  were is wisdom with that?
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:43am
  Oh! I see what perhaps you are referring to – but, my reference is Biblical – in reference to when the body of the anti-Christ is taken over by satan – it is written that children will be divided in two.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 4:06pm
  But, you see – these events are already taking place , and moving like the Holy Bible states like a conflagration . And, it is in reference to the exact place where it is suppose to start, and End.
  
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barber2
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:36am
Well, the Obama Chicago radicals and their Lefty Lap Dog Media will have a field day with this one. Effigy burning is not the way to get this message across , but it will garner the attention this man always seems to need and to demand . And the media will use it to character assassinate anyone who shares Jones’ views by using him as a poster child for anyone who supports gun rights.

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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:11am
  “And the media will use it to character assassinate anyone who shares Jones’ views by using him as a poster child for anyone who supports gun rights.”
  
  Do you really think they won’t continue their character assassinations anyway? There’s nothing Christians can do or say that will keep the left from demonizing them. They want them killed and eliminated.
  
  The only way to stop the MSM from denigrating people on the right is to neutralize the MSM.
  
  Wy it hasn’t been done before now is a mystery to me. If the liberal press was doing the same thing to the Muslims, their buildings and the rat nests they work from would be nothing but piles of ashes right now.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:33am
  INDE: I agree that the MSM is nothing more than a propaganda wing for the radical Left Democrats. And I am sure that they will not only continue their character assassinations via media, but that they will also try to obliterate conservative media outlets in America. The Left has been trying to destroy Murdoch in a London Trial By Media case since July, 2011. And we know that whatever the International Left does, the Obama crew here will follow. Soros funded .
  
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skippy6
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:33am
I see a few posts saying he should be thrown in prison!!?? Really!!! IMO he is a nutcase but to throw him in prison for his right to speak is insane.

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pantokrator
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:31am
This man has definitely fallen from grace (granted, if he was even there in the first place). We cannot allow room for hatred here. Things are bad, but the country is not lost. It’s lost when we start getting this violent this early without any reason to be violent yet. As a pastor, this man should know what love and grace is, and he should be ashamed of himself. This is not how a man of faith should act.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:43am
  Thank GOoDness I am a confessed Lutheran saved by my Faith in Grace alone, no words, works or rites required. I am regularly forgiven my humanity and share in the Banquet. God Bless Bitter Clingers, damn progrerssives, know-nothings and Lord of Flies, tyrants of all colors and stripes.
  
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- UnGreen
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:06am
  I have to wonder where you would have stood during the American Revolution. Our government is no less tyrannical than the British. I believe the tipping point will come when Obama takes it on himself, via presidential decree (Executive Order), to violate the 2nd Amendment.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:56am
  Mr or Ms DOUGHUFFMAN,
  
  This is what you must know:
  
  Lutheran, eh? In the words of Tom Lehrer:
  
  “Two, four. six, eight . . . time to transubstantiate.”
  
  It is so.
  
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- pantokrator
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:28am
  I hope that I would have stood with the Founding Fathers. I believe in what they stood for, and yes, there is a dark future coming and we’ll have to make a decision. But we don’t need to do it like this. Our Founders did not go around promoting violence, they just wanted to be made free.
  
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skippy6
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:26am
This may be the next Waco….

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capitalismrocks
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:17am
Sometimes I don’t know who is worse… Terry Jone or Shabbaz from the New Black Panthers… I say we put them both in a pit and see who wins, and that person goes into maximum security isolation for life, these guys are a menace to society!

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- Red Meat
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:25am
  Jones should run for Speaker of the House.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:30am
  CAPITALISMROCKS, They exist on parallel planes, just going in slightly different direction. Good catch on that comparison.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:41am
  You don’t really think that they will attempt to take the guns away from Shabam do you ?
  
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- horseman43
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:49am
  Equating this pastor with the Black Panthers is ridiculous. Has he threatened to kill white babies, crackers and pink people and other violent, heated rhetoric?
  
  I never read this kind of hateful comments when the many stories of Black Panter hate was posted here.
  
  If you people think the left is going to respect you more if you denigrate this man you’re wrong.
  
  There’s nothing he says that isn’t true, and he’s putting himself in jeopardy for standing up for this country and the second amendment.
  
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- pantokrator
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:11am
  Horseman, first, just because he compared this man to the Black Panthers does not mean he is claiming this man wants to kill white people. It is the mentality and the methodology that is being compared. This may not be hate towards a race, but it is hate. It is the insight of violence, things the Black Panthers promote. Two, there was no hate in Capitalismrocks’ post at all. He was comparing this man to another group (not to mention a healthy comparison), how is that hatred? Three, who says we want respect from the left? I don’t care what they think of me, however, I will not allow myself to become consumed by hate, violence and intolerance, the very things they are guilty of.
  
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- horseman43
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 1:11pm
  pantokrator
  “Horseman, first, just because he compared this man to the Black Panthers does not mean he is claiming this man wants to kill white people. It is the mentality and the methodology that is being compared.”
  
  I know, that’s what I was referring to. That’s why I said he’s “equating” Jones with the BP’s who use that kind of rhetoric. It’s an erroneous comparison. Nothing Jones said is even remotely on the scale of what the BP’s say and do. Nothing.
  
  “This may not be hate towards a race, but it is hate.”
  
  It is NOT hate. It is a call to arms and a warning about the community organizer in terms that is designed to get people’s attention. But even if it were hate, there’s nothing wrong with hating people who hate you. In fact only a fool would refrain from lashing out.
  
  “….. however, I will not allow myself to become consumed by hate, violence and intolerance, the very things they are guilty of.”
  
  People who respond to a call to arms are not consumed by hate. They are consumed with injustice and anger at being bullied, marginalized, insulted, demonized and are finally fed up. 1776 comes to mind, as well as no less than a 100 other events where people are moved to action because it was time for them to act.
  
  People who don’t stand for anything will stand for anything.
  
  It is the passionate who have moved the human race from totalitarianism to democracy.
  
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- girlnurse
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 3:08pm
  Capialismrocks: So you are perfectly fine with the fact that our government (senate) voted 93 to 7 to allow beastiality??
  You sir are BLINDED.
  
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thewhiteright
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:11am
The intent of the 2nd Amendment is to assure the individual citizens right to maintain sufficient armament to guarantee the advantage of liberty and validate separation from any government action that would impose infringement against the liberties of the individual citizen. The individual citizen is the sole possessor of this right and has immunity from any government attempt to restrict, or invalidate.

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critterbait
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:11am
Got to admit he’s got flare,,but I,ve heard this exact thing from tons of gun owners..Anyone who think’s this country is going to disarm peacefuly is just plain NUT”S …The government know’s this so what does the government realy want and expect to gain from this ,,, that is the real question???

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- chg2012
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:39am
  “tons’ of gun owners ? really ? Hardly..
  Legal Gun Owners are NOT radicals.. unlike this guy..
  So don’t even Put ME in your “tons’ of gun owners..
  
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SamIamTwo
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:04am
Now this guy is worse than the cursing hitchhiker…He needs to be put in a padded cell. JIMHO

He drags baby Jesus thru the mud…

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Eastinfection
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:03am
How baffled would the MSM be if an NRA, Tea Party “Gun Nut” decided to fit Terry Jones for some cement shoes?

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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:09am
  The would run the headline: “Tea-Party, Right-Wingers, capture and kill man of God.”
  
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Rashomon
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:01am
How about a age match between Terry Jones and Louis Farrakhan?

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VetMike
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:54am
This sort of rhetoric is the very last thing conservatives need. Almost all of us realize that legal opposition is the way to begin. Only in the extreme should violent opposition be considered. But liberals will hold this guy up as being representative of all conservatives and convince the uninformed that conservatives are a clear and present danger. I have no intention of giving up but I don’t want be another Ruby Ridge or Waco. An incident like these under Napolitano or Holder would be far worse.

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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:26am
  VETMIKE
  “But liberals will hold this guy up as being representative of all conservatives and convince the uninformed that conservatives are a clear and present danger.”
  
  Liberals will do that anyway. Don’t they demonize you right now for believing in traditional American values and Christianity?
  
  There’s nothing Conservatives can do that won’tbe criticized, and I can’t see why anyone would worry about being depicted in an unfavorable light by the leftist radicals, because someone who is a Christian spews fiery rhetoric. They would do the same if he promoted nothing but love and tolerance.
  
  It is inflammatory rhetoric that has strengthened liberals these last few years, and they use it constantly.
  
  The difference here is that the left usually always lies. This guy doesn’t.
  
  This man is putting his standing in jeopardy by openly calling for revolution, but it’s the only kind of rhetoric the left really respects, and, like it or not, it’s the only kind that is effective.
  
  Christians today face ungodly persecution, ridicule, hatred, and alienation by the left and the reason they do is because they have a reputation of being too namby pamby to fight back physically or as viciously verbally as the left.
  
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- firman
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:42am
  Amen.
  
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- The_Veteran
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:01am
  and that’s why the left is winning. Keep your head down and shut up. Do as your told and wait every 2 to 4 years to cast your worthless vote while the progressive movement keeps marching on.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:53am
  Gun Nuts like this Pastor and insane posters like Independent are making the case for gun control all by themselves.
  
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- pantokrator
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:36am
  “Christians today face ungodly persecution, ridicule, hatred, and alienation by the left and the reason they do is because they have a reputation of being too namby pamby to fight back physically or as viciously verbally as the left.”
  
  This. This mentality is what will be the death of Conservatism. We are the only group standing for American values. American values (which do hold strong Christian belief) are exactly opposite of what you are suggesting here. We should stoop to the level of bigotry in order to win? No. That will solve nothing. I am as passionate as you people are, but you cannot allow emotion to cloud your ability to seek justice and liberty. How much better from a left-wing crazy are you? How much better a Christian are you, when you would defy the very things it demands of you? Can we not fight with dignity anymore? Are we just going to give up and say, “Aw, hell let’s just kill them all”? Mark my words, give in to this hatred, and the progressives win. This kind of rhetoric only adds gasoline to the fire.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 4:07pm
  Pantokrator
  “Can we not fight with dignity anymore? Are we just going to give up and say, “Aw, hell let’s just kill them all”?
  
  Who is a saying that? Are you reading the same posts I am?
  
  “Mark my words, give in to this hatred, and the progressives win. This kind of rhetoric only adds gasoline to the fire.”
  
  Response to injustice and the imposition of mandates are not hate, they are necessary. And if this kind of rhetoric only adds gas to the fire so be it. It is a situation not of our making, and acting like shrinking violets will only make the situation worse.
  
  Your attitude has been typical throughout history by people who want to feel morally superior yet win the fight too. Whether it was Chamberlain before WWII who thought “Peace in our time,” was more important than standing for principle and values or the majority of radical leftists comprising the colonies in 1775 who wanted no part of opposing the tyranny they were living under, those thinking that taking the high road…and safest route…. was most important were wrong and they’ve not only been wrong in the past they have always been obstacles to victory time and again.
  
  There’s no nice way to win a war.
  
  And opposing and fighting injustice and tyranny can’t be accomplished by trying to stay above the fray, and there is no greater dignity than responding to a call to arms when a nation or a people are in danger of being subjugated by tyrannical forces.
  
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Concernd4USA
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:51am
The Blaze’s job is to report not make news. Since this guy gets media coverage elsewhere this helps us prepare for the fallout due to this idiots rants.

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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:49am
remember how they trashed alex jones because he made ‘the cause’ look bad? Why isnt this the same deal? or this (http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-glenn-beck-town-independence-usa-2013-1)

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:01am
  I think this is the same, SOY.
  Blaze put this story up so that Terry Jones could be mocked as a crackpot by most, and defended by some, as well.
  Very similar set up as the Alex Jones stuff.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:07am
  East,
  we will see. I see real reporting in this article and not saul alinsky tactics so i dont think it is the same.
  
  Why did they delete JustAngry’s post???
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:13am
  I think it only appears to be “real reporting” because Glenn doesn’t have a personal axe to grind with the Pastor.
  …besides, Glenn doesn’t ever throw his weight behind anyone who’s universally hated… too risky.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:28am
  SOY, LOL, Alex Jones! And, to think that I used to take at least some of your blather as almost serious.
  
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ThoreauHD
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:40am
Funny, I never see them post a article of muslims burning Christians to death.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toasty0z/onitsha.jpg

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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:08am
  Because Muslims are a minority and are allowed to do what they want. Obama can’t control people in other countries or apply the law to minorities, he is only willing to take the rights of those he seeas as his subjects while luring those who aren’t into his sphere of power.
  
  I don’t agree with Jones entirely, but he is just doing what nobody else was willing to; be the first. Misguided perhaps, but very brave.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:39am
Why does this man get the coverage he does? The world is full of crackpots, but they love to magnify a Christian crackpot, it fits their agenda.

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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:46am
  Oh, here it comes again. The Christian whining about “PERSECUTION!” with statements like, “why do only Christians get the negative media attention, boo-hoo, boo-hoo.”
  
  This site has NUMEROUS articles on crackpot Muslims and their nonsensical ramblings.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:18am
  Mod, I see you typed something, but the only thing coming across is “Derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp derp.” Would you like to submit your post again?
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:32am
  Crackpot Muslims have killed a lot of people Mod. Big difference.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:43am
  Mod: There is a big difference between freedom of speech and freedom to murder .
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 9:46am
  GONZO, I’ve just never been able to figure out why Terry Jones left Monty Python to make himself a different kind of joke.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 10:50am
  Mr or Ms GONZO,
  
  This is what you must know:
  
  Why do so many people here agree with him and support him?
  
  It is so.
  
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- LiberalAlways
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 11:19am
  Who is “they”? The only place I’ve seen this story is here on TheBlaze. If it now gets wider play you can blame TheBlaze as the “they”.
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:38am
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Burning a Koran won’t get in as much trouble as owning a gun….

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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:35am
Terry Jones sounds just like Alex Jones…..Double-standard there blaze?

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:44am
  Don’t forget your guru Jim Jones, whose Koolade wasn’t made from soy. Drink much Koolade, drunk much?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:47am
  no
  
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Maxim Crux
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:31am
This guy is of the same spirit of those who are destroying the country. Why does he continue to be a press issue. I know, so they can justify their plans

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DougHuffman
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:27am
I have no particular desire to live as a disarmed subject of the Lord of Flies. Suicide by cop is self-immolation, auto-da-fe, no less than flaming Buddhist monks. It has not yet been as effective.

Godly people are armed with wits, guns and the Truth. God damn the Lord of Flies.

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RANGER1965
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:26am
..Not Beck’s next George Washington methinks.

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Nepenthe
Posted on February 4, 2013 at 8:24am
Well, that answers the question of whether he thinks the Gospels are the actual word of God.

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