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Feb. 5, 2013 11:14am Billy Hallowell

This morning, Glenn Beck delivered an excoriating rebuke of former Texas congressman Ron Paul. The radio host’s tough words for the former representative were an official response to Paul’s much-publicized tweet about ex-NAVY SEAL Chris Kyle’s death. Beck began his comments by praising Kyle’s bravery and his devotion to America, going on to outline his shock at the politician’s decision to comment so callously.

The host honored Kyle as “one of the brightest, bravest heroes” and praised him for his combat tours. In addition to highlighting this devotion to the military and penchant for saving American lives, Beck also focused upon other important attributes pertaining to Kyle’s faith and family roles.

“A husband, a father, a son, an unquestioned patriot — a man who didn’t talk about Jesus, but lived his Christian belief — was senselessly murdered by a fellow veteran he was just trying to help,” he continued.

After praising the brave ex-SEAL, Beck outlined his surprise by Paul’s Twitter message, which read (in case you missed it), “Chris Kyle’s death seems to confirm that ‘he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.’ Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense.” The radio host held little back in his reaction.

“Well, Dr. Paul, he wasn’t treating it. I’m sorry that you listened to the media,” he said “I thought you knew better than that. Aren’t you a guy that just loves to blame the media on coverups — on things like Tower number Seven? Suddenly, you rush to believe the media.”

Glenn Beck Responds to Ron Pauls Tweet About Chris Kyles Death

Glenn Beck responds to former Rep. Ron Paul’s tweet about ex-NAVY SEAL Chris Kyle (Photo Credit: TheBlaze TV)

But rather than tearing into the former congressman further, at this point, Beck paused to note Paul’s devotion to the U.S. Constitution and, despite disagreeing with him on many sentiments, the host noted that the two do, indeed, share some ideas “about freedom and the constitution.” While Beck believes that Paul has fought hard to uphold these values, disagreement abounds.

Despite ideological inconsistencies, though, Beck said that there is no reason that the two can’t respect one another. Holding this ideal in place, he continued to respectfully rail against the politician’s Twitter statement.

“I understand so unbelievably clearly that you don’t like the foreign wars our nation has been involved in…some of us are at a different level of understanding,” Beck said, speaking directly to Paul. “We’re not all Dr. Paul, now, but Chris Kyle and those like him are not the policy makers, doctor, as Americans we don’t go over to the graves of even the German soldiers from WWII and dance on them — because it’s what sets us apart — a fundamental respect for life.”

The host said that Kyle gave his all as a volunteer in a nation that never required him to sacrifice so much of himself. The former SEAL, Beck said, was special — an individual who put his life where his beliefs reside. In this respect, Beck highlighted that the congressman and Kyle have some common ground.

“Dr. Paul, so many Americans admire you because you are willing to put yourself out there in Washington for a cause in which you believe,” he noted. “Chris Kyle was no different…he was willing to put [himself] out there for a cause that he believed [in].”

(Photo Credit: Andrew Burton/Getty Images)

Rather than coming from the lips (or keyboard, in this case) of a seasoned elder statesman, Beck said that Paul’s tweet sounded like something that would come from radical groups like Code Pink or Westboro Baptist Church, calling the social media statement “beneath” the former representative. The host said that one of the main problems that abounds in today’s society is a failure for individuals to treat one another decently and he even wondered if Paul regrets his “serious, serious error in judgement.”

Acknowledging that some would potentially point the finger at him as someone who has fallen prey to uttering unfavorable statements in the past, Beck admitted that “we’ve all said things that we shouldn’t have said,” but that people should learn and grow from these experiences. And while he stands fervently against Paul’s statements, the host affirmed that he is a big believer in the First Amendment.

“I find Ron Paul’s speech ugly and offensive, but I defend his right to say it and I would not violate it or ask anyone else to violate it by having him silent,” Beck proclaimed “More speech — not less speech — but it requires all of us in responsible ways to respond because that is the right that so many like Chris Kyle fought for.”

The host also noted that for those wondering why he has never — and could never — support Paul, this example provides both explanation and corroboration.

“This should finally answer your question,” Beck said.

Watch Beck’s response in full, below:

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Glenn Beck’s charitable organization, Mercury One, is taking donations for those wishing to honor Navy SEAL Chris Kyle and his friend Chad Littlefield.

To donate by mail:
Mercury One
PO Box 140489
Irving, TX 75014

Make checks payable to Mercury one but in the memo field please write “Chris Kyle Fund.”

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UPDATED: Ron Paul Account Tweets Shock Message About Former SEAL Sniper’s Death

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Comments (646)

WhatTheFrack
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:05pm
Beck helped uncover the corruption in our government but now thay my eyes are wide open I’m pretty disappointed in GB. He asks others to hold themselves to a higher standard yet continuously puts out his version of Jerry Springer radio. So done with this guy.

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- scuba13
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:15pm
  So I guess we won’t see anymore idiotic post from you then. I wonder how many people will miss you.
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:19pm
  Glenn Beck is a LIBERTARIAN like I’m a Victorias Secret Model.
  
  Just ’cause I’ll let you see me in my underpants, doesn’t mean it will be pretty! :)
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:35pm
  Nothing on the Gov’t Drone targeting of US citizens on the Blaze tells you all you need to know.
  
  Funny isn’t it? The ole libertarian Beck is ok with that? Lol Lord have mercy. Beck is as phony as a 3 dollar bill!
  
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- MAULEMALL
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:46pm
  ronpawls nutjobs are in force today…
  
  Maybe a techguy could get a spellchecker..
  
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- MAULEMALL
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:49pm
  rpawl is an anti semite homophobe lying republican money stealing quit the party stab Ronald Reagan in the back NOBODY…
  
  NO ONE WILL CARE WHEN YOU ARE GONE YOU DOUCHE
  
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- Ollie123
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:54pm
  Scuba , good response I wonder if this guy ever bashed thrill up my leg, Chris Matthews?
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:56pm
  This sort of reminds me when Beck said, “You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families. It took me about a year… But when I see 9/11 victim family, you know, on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh, shut up.’ I’m so sick of them. Because they’re always complaining.”
  
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- Ollie123
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:01pm
  If your version of a libertarian is Ron Paul, I’ll pick Glen Beck any day of the week, over Ron Pauls insensitive and disgusting remarks.
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:32pm
  Ron paul spoke the unvarnashed truth.He’s a great american -not dupped by the war mongering neo cons who turned this kyle into a war criminal and worse-coming home to brag about it on the neo con controlled american media. ron paul is a doctor a healer-Kyle became an american 21stnazi-against muslims this time. he loved killing so much he took vets to a shooting range and proably told them-pretend your killing muslime-then you’ll feel better. Like he did. perhaps the shooter pretended he was a muslim. ha ,ha. I hope Kyle’s victims-their families still alive in iraq and all iraqis- hear this story. Poetic justice if ever there was.He lived by the sword and died that way too.That it came from an american is too incredible-iraqi’s revenge. What an embarrassment to fox and gulls.Ron Paul is too innocent uncorruptable to not speak the obvious truth.
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:32pm
  @SENDTHEMETEORS –
  
  I don’t know if Beck said that or not– but Beck also admitted that he has said things that he regrets in the past and that he was wrong.
  
  I guess my question to you then would be – are saying that just as Beck has said wrong things in the past, that Ron Paul was wrong in what he recently said as well?
  
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- vincijoey49
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:32pm
  Im so glad to see you leave.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:02pm
  Why is Glenn suddenly attacking the 1st amendment all the time. He is doing it here by attacking Ron Paul for exercising his freedom of speech. I am not a fan of Ron Paul. To me he is an extreme right wing libertarian. I am not that far right but he is a U.S. Citizen and is protected by the Constitution as we all are. I have been paying close attention to Glenn and he has a real ego thing about telling us all how we should think and act. And anytime someone responds in a way he doesn’t see fit, he attempts to demonize them or put them in a bad light ie anytime he uses the label truthers against people which he does quite often. If he disagrees all he has to say is he disagrees and move on, if he even needs to do that since the tweet didn’t involve anything about Glenn in the first place. This is just what I have been observing lately and is only my freedom of speech opinion.
  
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- Thomas_Jefferson
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:04pm
  I said it before & I will say it again.
  Wrong Paul is bought & paid for with jihad money.
  
  Paul voted to continue sending OUR money to HAMAS/Fatah/Hezbollah terrorists (our ENEMIES) via their money launderers in the Palestinian Authority, So much for his claim to be a “non-interventionist” or opponent of foreign aid. I can think of no worse INTERVENTIONISTS than islam/shari’a. Paul likes to pretend that the U.S. itself is not “occupied” by our enemies (mosques = islam/shari’a FORTS! & front groups like CAIR) & blames terrorism on US!?
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:08pm
  @rose-ellen
  
  You are pathetic.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:11pm
  How odd. Now normally, Christ advises “He without sin, cast the first stone”. Listening to Beck this morning I came away with the impression that he must be without sin, given the scathing, sneering, weepy teary eyed condemnation that he gave Ron Paul and his comment which he clearly did not take in context of RP’s values and statements up to this point.
  
  Yep, it must be nice to be faultless, Glenn.
  
  Now, go lay down your arms and surrender to the government…For Freedom! ™
  
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- Rojolobo
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:18pm
  Glen just covered everything Alex Jones been uncovering for the past 15 years. He just repackaged all Alex Jones work.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:22pm
  Also, what is this “fundamental respect for life” he’s going on about? The last 40 years, the Left hasn’t found a baby it doesn’t want killed before its born, and the Right hasn’t seen a bomb it doesn’t want to drop on others.
  
  Fundamental respect for life, yeah, sure, right. Meanwhile bombs drop, drones assassinate, babies are murdered in the womb, and everybody pays taxes to knowingly support these things, even if they grit their teeth to do so. If we fundamentally respected life, we’d stop this madness and stop thinking that the voting box was the place to do it, clearly that has failed. So we continue to allow it to happen, and that kids, means we don’t fundamentally respect life, at best we simply wish to protect our own lives and the lives of our families, nothing else. Ain’t nothing fundamental about that.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:24pm
  @THOMAS_JEFFERSON
  
  And your source is?
  
  And your wording if very telling. Voted to CONTINUE….
  
  Meaning, it was also voted AND passed by the remaining representatives in the house.
  
  But knowing Ron Paul’s voting history, I highly doubt he voted on continuing foreign aid to ANYONE.
  
  So please, show me the bill that he voted on that would CONTINUE (read: bill had passed and is ongoing) so we can review your claim….
  
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- booger71
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:32pm
  MAULEMALL
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:49pm
  
  rpawl is an anti semite homophobe lying republican money stealing quit the party stab Ronald Reagan in the back NOBODY…
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  Ron is not an anti-Semite, he is pro palestinian
  
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- escape_from_socialism
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:33pm
  I like Glenn, but today, for the another time I had to turn it off his radio show.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:40pm
  Tech
  Clearly you don’t read. Not only were the drones mentioned on the blaze but beck himself talked about it this morning on his show. You really are nothing but a propaganda machine.
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:42pm
  @GhostOfJefferson
  
  Once again, well thought out, and well said.
  
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- jblaze
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:45pm
  I like Glenn. He may from time to time run on raw emotions and speak from there rather than profound wisdom, but haven’t we all at times! To date there is no evidence that Ron Paul used malice in what he said. He just quoted scripture of which Chris Kyle mostly likely had prayed on before entering and during his time in the military. Ron Paul shouldn’t be crucified for something that he fundamentally believes and is scripturally based to boot. I have always found Mr. Paul to be a straight shooter when it comes to saying what he believes.
  RP in trying to live in a time that isn’t here yet. King David was a man after God’s own heart, yet he also was a warrior for God. One of his first acts when he came on the scene was to kill Goliath and sever his head! King David and many other warriors of Biblical reference fought for God. This is the world we live in, for *Satan is the god of this world and until that changes; we are stuck with it. King David was **punished for the blood that he had on his hands as God forbade him to build the Temple because of it and gave that responsibility and glory to Solomon. In the end God loved David for his faithfulness and his repenting attitude and gave him many blessings. For every sin (transgressions against God’s Laws) there is a penalty. Someone should add this to the 7 Universal Laws, but that would send the God naysayers over the edge, even though it is the truth.
  *(2 Cor. 4:4 (Rev. 12:7-9) **1 Chronicles 28:3
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:55pm
  For Dr. Ron Paul….
  
  “Elected representatives that live without voting, die without representing their constituents”.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:17pm
  tzion
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:40pm
  Tech
  Clearly you don’t read. Not only were the drones mentioned on the blaze but beck himself talked about it this morning on his show. You really are nothing but a propaganda machine.
  
  where on the Blaze is an article about the Drones targeting aEmrican citizens??
  
  I’ve looked twice today.. Nothing.
  
  did not hear the radio show.. usually don’t.
  
  Anyway we all kow it’s your commie boyz behind it.. always subverting our Constitution..
  
  Wasn’t there a land for you? My god please leave.
  
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- RavenGlenn
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:17pm
  @SENDTHEMETEORS
  
  Nice try. Anyone that actually looks it up and reads the ACTUAL transcript and not your redacted one taken out of context would see that he was talking about the people using the tragedies of 9/11 for financial gain. Not the genuine victims of the attacks(which he gave to charities for.)
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:20pm
  Guess glenn doesn’t like the bible either, considering paul’s tweet was a quote.
  This sniper bragged about shooting non-combatants and referred to them as animals. Not really someone that should be be held up as an example. War happens, but it should never be glorified. It should never be something people desire to do. This guy was training police how to be more efficient killers of we the people.
  Ron Paul did not say anything that was not true. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is still the truth.
  
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- TruePatriot24
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:27pm
  Too all you libertarians…. you live in a perfect world. I would love to hold your domestic and foreign policy views, but there is one problem…. it is not reality. There are people who really want to kill all of us. Not because of what we have done, but because of the fact that we don’t believe in Islam. Simple as that. So to me, the choice is simple…. do we fight them there (away from our families) or do be sissies and wait till they are chasing us around our backyards wanting to cut our heads off. As for me and my heart, I will bring the fight to them and do my best to protect my family. As for you libertarians, it will be YOU that will be screaming for heroes like Chris Kyle when the muslims are chasing your butts around your backyard. So good luck.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:30pm
  @Monk:
  
  Paul voted. He just voted “No”, when the bill was unconstitutional. That means he voted “No” most of the time.
  
  Find fault with that.
  
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- MonkeyBeagle
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:33pm
  The Point is, why waste your time on RP… when Barry is literally burning your constitution right before your eyes. RP is not even a congressman anymore. GB’s irrational focus, is incomprehensible.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:45pm
  Sorry Norm D. Plume….
  
  You need to look at his voting record. He votes “present” quite a lot.
  
  Here’s a link I have up to Jan 1 2013…. look for the “Did Not Vote”.
  
  http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/296/
  
  Here’s a few more to get you started.
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/ron-paul-voting-record_n_1173255.html
  http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42612
  http://news.yahoo.com/ron-pauls-long-record-glorious-failures-congress-102926045.html
  
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- 1SFG
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:50pm
  Bub bye!
  
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- jblaze
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:25pm
  SendTheMeteors
  
  Your handle should be I-NEED-PSYCHOLOCIAL-HELP
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:29pm
  Glenn Beck’s real problem with Ron Paul is Paul isn’t a puppet of the “chosen people” like he and 99% of all the Blazers on here. He knows they (Judens) are the enemy of liberty, so he has no love for them. He know the “chosen people” Marxist Media constantly attacked and demonized him in their media they control. Why? Because he didn’t promise to sacrifice every American man, woman, and child to defend Israel as the rest of the corrupt politicians have promised. Beck is a puppet of the “chosen people” and Ron Paul is not, so that’s why Beck constantly attacks him. It all boils down to one issue………”chosen people”.
  
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- stopspendingourmoney
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:34pm
  I never did understand Glen’s hate for Ron Paul, he always
  said he agreed with him on at least 90% on the stuff he has said so this is supposed
  to explain it all Beck??? I think your both wrong for your out-bursts. Should we
  be fighting one another? Or fighting the true enemy of liberty and freedom? Why
  does he always come out against Alex Jones or Ron Paul when he gets a chance? Should
  we not be joining in the fight against evil? All the while the liberals and commies
  are laughing.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:47pm
  @jblaze
  “Your handle should be I-NEED-PSYCHOLOCIAL-HELP”
  
  It used to be….. JZS. LOL
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:51pm
  @Silly:
  
  Jews have nothing to do with it. Israel-firsters, Jewish and non-Jewish, who want to feed our kids into a sausage grinder in the Middle East, to protect oil companies and raw power, are more of a concern.
  
  But what concerns me more, is what the foreign wars against “terrorism” are starting to accrue here vis a vis our liberties.
  
  Beck seems to be happy to give up liberty for imagined safety. Those of us who see through the lies, are not so willing to go along with that ridiculous notion.
  
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- NYRASCAL
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:57pm
  GB= major hypocrite. Blast R.Paul this morning then makes a joke about Steve Jobs’ illness and death. Pretty disgusting, and sad. He doesn’t even see it that way.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:05pm
  No matter you feelings here’s a fact:
  
  Kyle is dead as a result of our invasion of the Middle East..
  
  You guys love the killing of Arabs but you don’t want to count the costs of War for some reason..
  
  This was simply collateral damage.
  
  That’s a fact.
  
  I hate it but that’s a fact.
  
  the Iraqi invasion was illegal the first time and the 2nd. What a disgrace to this once great nation. We don’t go slaugther just because we can.
  
  We’re better than that.
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:08pm
  What is pathetic is the glorification of mass murder which Kyle epitomized to the point of having vets pretend they were back killing people. Oh boy-isn’t this fun.now you’re not feeling “ordinary’ any more .Pathetic!
  
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- imperative
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:15pm
  I’m just more and more disappointed with Glenn. Ron Paul isn’t a perfect guy, but he sure seems to get it right more often than most members of congress.
  
  I understand how the tweet could offend some people who have a strong admiration for Chris Kyle, but it seems like Glenn is just searching for reasons to attack people like RP. I don’t think he attacks the liberals as vehemently as he attacks some conservatives.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:19pm
  Beck is Zio Shill #1. It’s that simple.
  
  An oportunist and a fraud.
  
  All this guy did was go on FOX and say 1 or 2 conservative things.. This guy is a fraud! He’s not a Constitutionalist; he’s a damn Jewish Shill!
  
  Really that simple.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:25pm
  Let’s clarify.
  
  “As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP”
  
  Now let’s hear all the good Christians scream for more Muslim blood because they love Jesus… What a bunch of frauds and anti Christs!
  
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- Babagootz
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:30pm
  Uh, yeah, this guy “lived his Christian belief”? Really? Kudos to the guy for serving our country and all, but he killed a lot of people. You can’t argue with that fact. I can’t say Jesus would condone that. Ron Paul is quoting scripture (the Prince of Peace) and he is right on.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:34pm
  WhatTheFrack
  
  Bye, Bye !
  
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- escape_from_socialism
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:44pm
  After reading this, http://www.infowars.com/us-marine-questions-narrative-behind-chris-kyle-murder/ , Is Glenn trying to divert attention?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:44pm
  SendTheMeteors
  
  Trust meteors to once again to take stuff out of context. Since 911 , lots of people have had loved ones die prematurely from cancer, traffic accidents, crime , etc.
  
  The 911 families went thru a traumatic event. So do a lot of other people. so what is your point meteors?
  
  Meteors your strong points are not logic or morality. If town a has 10 people die in one horrible incident in a year, is that worse than town B that has 10 people die singly in 10 separate incidents during the same year.
  
  There is only one way that 911 could be worse.That is if we do not put an end to your buddies in Al Qaeda. The 911 families have already been financially renumerated. They have to some extent been made financially whole which is more than what happens for some families. Just ask the people from the Oklahoma City Bombing. They wee not made financially whole & there was not a serious effort to find out how OKC happened or to punish people.
  
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- imperative
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:04pm
  Beck’s right indignation just seems over the top in that video.
  
  He seems to be trying his hardest to convince people that they should be offended by… a tweet?
  
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- skunkbear
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:10pm
  I offer for rebuttal to Beck’s rant a column written by the great Will Grigg last year but brought back again now:
  
  http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/02/pseudo-courage-of-chris-kyle.html
  
  Read it if you have the courage, Beck and your bots…
  
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- b.mclane
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:20pm
  You can turn yourself inside out if you like but there is no way you can excuse Dr. Paul’s comment. At the very least it was highly insensitive and callous, super poor timing and was way to easily misinterpreted.
  
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- BehindBlueEyes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:21pm
  @WHATTHEFRACK
  Don’t let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. And on your way out can you do us all a favor and take your troll friends with you?
  Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.
  
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- founderlover
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:41pm
  ByeBye!
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:20pm
  What you people don’t get is not every man in uniform is a hero.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:05pm
  Alex Jones and Ron Paul are true patriots in the image of the founding fathers..for the freedom and Constitutional rights of all Americans..Then we have the Tribe of Dan(the serpent Gen 49:17..from which the Rothschilds are said to descend..Amshel Rothschilds may have indeed be Hitler’s grandfather.and in fact did fund Hitler as did other NWO companies..like Khume Loeb Bank, Brown Brothers Merriman..Thule and Vril secret societies and Shell Oil..Hitler actually refounded Israel- one of his own became Prime Minister. The current Netan Yeoow is a Freemason(Communist)..not a Jew..The secret societies like the UN..Trilateral Commission..Bonesmen..Bohemians Bilderbergs..and Freemasons..are all Communist entities started by the Rothschilds..Mo-monie.-ans are a church started by Joseph Smith and his father who were Freemasons..the rabbit hole runs deep..but most people here will never get it..I am grateful for the ones who do..God says to be in the world but not of the world..Guess He always knew the deaf dumbness,and blindness of the masses….I thank Him for the ones whom He lets see..Discerning people..Blessings to you..
  
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- Naps
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:09pm
  @THOMAS JEFFERSON>>>>>> And Glenn is bought and paid for with Rockefeller,Warburg,Morgan & Rothchild Blood Money. You Beckistani’s are complete idiots. Glenn wishes he had as much integrity as Ron Paul has in his testicles. Dr Paul is and will always be my President. Blow it out your arse Glenn.
  
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- Jim S
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:12pm
  ..we don’t dance on graves ?..really?..remember the night OBL was killed?..the crowds outside the White House?..the cheers and celebration?..the high 5′s?..the USA USA chants ?…short memory there Glenn..besides taking a person suffering emotional problems to a gun range is pretty stupid, not a capital offense, but pretty stupid..so let this be a teaching moment and heed Ron’s advise…this does not lessen his actions for his nation in anyway..just a stupid action years later that led to his death…
  
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- Neils60
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:16pm
  As a long time listener to Glenn’s radio program, and a viewer of his television programming, your analogy to Jerry Springer’s program is completely incomprehensible and totally unfair.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:23pm
  ashestoashes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:05pm
  Alex Jones and Ron Paul are true patriots in the image of the founding fathers..for the freedom and Constitutional rights of all Americans..
  
  Naps
  Posted on February
  And Glenn is bought and paid for with Rockefeller,Warburg,Morgan & Rothchild Blood Money. You Beckistani’s are complete idiots. Glenn wishes he had as much integrity as Ron Paul has in his testicles. Dr Paul is and will always be my President. Blow it out your arse Glenn.
  
  Great posts.
  
  Dr. Paul is truly a great an honorable man but I’d even take Alex Jones over Beck.. Beck is a worm. An oportunist and a Fraud! Trust him if you like but he is a sick man. A shill!
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:48pm
  I’m sorry, but Ron Paul is senile. I give zero credit to anything he says. What is sad is that Rand Paul, his son who is a bright and shining star in what is a failing conservative party has to deal with the sins of his father.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:09pm
  @Happy Conservative..what is sad is that you are ungrateful to the only man who ever stood and fought vehemently for your Constitutional rights for over 20 yrs..the only one..and you don’t understand when there are foxes in with the chickens..But really..I am not supposed to gloat over the failure of man..after all..you will pull me down with you..but I have a hard time not smiling at just the prospect of your realizing your ignorance one day..but the really sad part is that I think that you will always be ignorant..and you will never get it..
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:19pm
  @TECH Good to see you on here Tech..sorry it takes me so long to respond..a friend of mine insists I use his PC and I have my own..but he is adamant about me using the one he gave me and it flipping gives me fits..you would not believe the heck I have to go through just to get something posted..Keep up the good fight my friend..in the words of that old Tom Petty song..”Don’t Back Down” Oh..you want to see something really cool..This is a New York Town Hall Meeting or something in NY.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdhVxva5KU&feature=player_embedded
  
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- HenryPascalCrusoe
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:32pm
  Do we not all ask others to reach a standard (whether they be a child or adult) above themselves and yet ourselves fail again and again as any other human being would? Glenn himself would be the first to say that he is faulty and quite often a hypocrite in deed as we all often are (considering what we declare to believe). I do not see your point in creating a parallel between Glenn’s actions and the actions of those on a show such as Jerry Springer, who operate on the basis of idiotic entertainment. Beck, unlike many on tv, speaks from his heart on a daily basis. His rebuke of Ron Paul here is from that same area. I respect your feelings of disappointment concerning Glenn, and hope you feel content with whoever you flock to next (as an idol of liberty and sincerity). Best of blessings! (no sarcasm)
  
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- tzion
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:33am
  @tech
  It’s not hard to find if you were actually looking (something a propaganda machine wouldn’t do):
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/04/confidential-justice-department-memo-killing-american-citizens-with-suspected-terror-ties-ok/
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/02/05/drone-strikes-huffington-post/
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/05/are-drone-strikes-on-american-citizens-constitutional/
  
  Three in one day and you missed all three? Admittedly that last one is more recent but the first was there before I replied and was posted shortly after this story. And Beck did mention it during his second hour.
  
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- LookTowardsTheLight
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:04am
  @techengineer11
  
  *rolling eyes*
  
  It’s the same broken record with every comment you make….get over yourself.
  
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- LookTowardsTheLight
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:06am
  @WhatTheFrack
  
  Done with Beck? Good, there is no longer a need for you to type “theblaze.com” into the address bar of your browser.
  
  Off you go son…
  
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- ERP
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:09am
  @ROSE ELLEN
  
  Looks like you’re going for both the Anti-American and C**T Of The Year Awards for 2013.
  
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- ERP
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:17am
  techengineer11
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:23pm
  
  ashestoashes
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:05pm
  Alex Jones and Ron Paul are true patriots in the image of the founding fathers..for the freedom and Constitutional rights of all Americans..
  
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  Great point…so that means then if Ron Paul became President then he would bring back slavery, right? After all most of the Founding Fathers owned slaves so it’s only natural to think if the Mad Doctor were to become our leader “in the image of the founding fathers” (your words) then we would be looking at a sudden spike in companies that make chains. Oh, wait a minute. You support Ron Paul so I guess then you are also in favor of bringing back to the days of slavery.
  
  “…in the image of the founding fathers”
  
  Your words, not mine.
  
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- ERP
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:19am
  @ashestoashes
  
  Here’s a tissue. You got a little something of @TechEngineer on your chin.
  
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- Leftcoaster
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:23am
  Glenda has really packed on the pounds since he was fired from television. Sad.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 6:08am
  Ahmednutjob loves Ron Paul. Rose Ellen loves Ron Paul. So does Tech. Man, I bet Hussein has a secret liking for him too. And let’s not forget that someone in hell who can’t wait till he comes home.
  
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- kathleenlee
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 7:33am
  @SENDTHEMETEORS…Glenn Beck didn’t say that…check your sources…Ann Coulter said that in her book. wow, you people really are uninformed. Now apologize for being wrong!!! Never-mind, people like you never apologize, because you are never wrong…but only in your mind.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 7:35am
  @EARP..”Seems you are on the side of slavery since you stand with the founding fathers”
  Nope..not even..had I had my way..slaves would have never been brought to this country..as a matter of fact..it was the Conquistadores who brought them as they brought disease here from Europe and killed off too many of the Indians whom they enslaved..another fact is that Africans sold their own people into slavery..They reason they were brought in chains is that they were wild and head hunters..I would have preferred that they let them be..No dear EARP..I much prefer the freedom of every man..so long as they don’t harm anyone else..You stand on the side of the foreign bankers who are seeking to enslave you..their plan is to take the population down ot 500 million..with only that amount left in small cities to serve them..they will require you to take a vow to Lucifer to enter the NWO..It is written in the UN report “Our Global Neighborhood” So the consolation that I get with you..is that you will most lilkely become that slave..So long..loser..
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 9:07am
  tzion
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:33am
  @tech
  It’s not hard to find if you were actually looking (something a propaganda machine wouldn’t do):
  
  You are a little shady rat aren’t you? First one story was a tweet. One was from FEB 4. and the other was fEB at 7pm?
  lol
  what a liar you are.
  
  Although the Blaze did cover it on the 4th so I do stand somewhat corrected.
  
  Ashes: Sounds like someone may have an eye for you.. Nothing wrong with a little chivalry although I see more and more people including grown men telling me and others “be careful what you say on internet..” “they are watching you..” ect then they proceed to live their lives like nothing is wrong?
  
  You see the hypocrisy and cowardness of this attitude? Not saying your friend fits in that cat but many do.. If it’s really that bad in US and I believe it is then we need men to man up! I’m sick of the cowardly defeatest attitude.. Just damn die if you are soo much of a coward as to let this illigitimate gov’t stampede over our Constitution.
  
  anyway I’ll try to look at the link later.. you are very informed. Not saying that I agree with it all but you are close. Moreover your friend my be sincere in trying to protect you but many are just cowards.
  
  ERP: that’s really a stupid comment.
  
  looktolight: Bring something to the table. the mind is a terrible thing to waste.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:06am
  Good luck with McCain/Romney 2.0 in 2016 beating Hilary without the libertarians. Keep it up!
  With the treatment the liberty movement has gotten from the Republicrats; all i really can say is good luck.
  
  I have seen worse comments from most of you here on the blaze.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:41am
  WakingSheep
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:06am
  Good luck with McCain/Romney 2.0 in 2016 beating Hilary without the libertarians. Keep it up!
  With the treatment the liberty movement has gotten from the Republicrats; all i really can say is good luck.
  
  I have seen worse comments from most of you here on the blaze.
  
  I think your post is factually incorrect.. I know what you are saying but many like me are not Libertarians. We are Conservatives.
  
  The reality is that the Republicans have by and large left Conservatives behind as a result of the deceptions of the Neo-Cons on FOX and talk radio.
  
  Once again, i’m pro life, pro marriage pro family pro 2nd amend, pro Constit.. anit Patriot Act, anti NDAA and anti stupid War… Pro just War in defense of American Sovereignty.
  
  So I’m not Libertarian.. Most are not. We are conservatives.
  
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- Jefferson
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:42am
  The Pseudo-Courage of Chris Kyle
  http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/02/pseudo-courage-of-chris-kyle.html
  
  Ron Paul left more integrity in the toilet this morning than Glennadict Arnold could muster in a lifetime. This self admitted “rodeo clown” is just a chameleon, changing his colors to fit in with the environment. He’s the worst kind of smarmy traitor.
  BTW, Alex Jones and Bill Cooper were covering these subjects when Beck was a drunken Top 40 DJ. Glad to see that at least some are seeing through this guy’s clown outfit.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 11:08am
  @techengineer11
  
  At this point in time; I would much rather call myself a libertarian than I would a conservative for the reasons you stated.
  
  “Once again, i’m pro life, pro marriage pro family pro 2nd amend, pro Constit.. anit Patriot Act, anti NDAA and anti stupid War… Pro just War in defense of American Sovereignty.”
  
  I only hear the republicans/conservatives saying anything about the wars being wrong or the drone strikes. How can they be pro life and yet approve of JUDGE DREDD taking out US citizens witout due process. How can they be pro Constitution if they don’t believe in due process and most have no issue with NDAA or the Patriot Act?
  
  I’m done with false conservatism. I’m done with the Republicrats. I’m not the only one either.
  
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- A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:33pm
  I’m right there with you WAKINGSHEEP.
  
  I personally don’t like being put in boxes or labeled Republican, Democrat, or even Libertarian. I agree with Washington about the danger of political parties (and as we see today he was correct). If I had to choose a party I would choose Libertarian, simply because I share many of the beliefs they do. If someone asked me what I am I’d say I’m pro freedom and ALL individual rights, and that I try to stay as consistent in my beliefs as possible.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:52pm
  Brother Winston Smith was unable to comment, but he did make a video of his reaction to Beck critiquing Ron Paul:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yMl60C-zXI
  
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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 1:37pm
  Ron Paul was insensitive and sick to have ran off at the mouth about someone who sacrificed his life for others…I don’t care-these people who shamelessly follow a man like Ron Paul even when he says something crazy is just about as insane as the man who slaughtered Chris.
  
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- A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:00pm
  @TEARS FOR AMERICA
  
  Yes, part of it was insensitive. I think most of us RP’ers don’t simply assume every word he says is perfect or go along with it no matter what.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:13pm
  WakingSheep
  I’m done with false conservatism. I’m done with the Republicrats. I’m not the only one either.
  
  That’s the problem. the leadership is false conservatism.. The real Republican party is still Conservative not Libertarian.
  
  Now you are right that many in the base have been deceived over Liberty and the War effort but Libertarianism is a totally different animal.
  
  The typical libertarian could less about abortion, marriage and morals. Most conservatives do. The party is just off track right now.
  
  Remember back in 2000 GWB said that we would not become the World’s policeman under his watch and all of the Republican party cheered because they were sickened by Clinton’s illegal War in Serbia… When he’d commence to bombing each and every time another story leaked out about his infidelity?
  
  Well GWB got off course and went back on his word using 9-11 as an excuse.. I fell for it at the time myself… Very powerful propaganda they used but it did not take long for me to see the error of my ways.. The only problems is that many Republicans still don’t see the error… Unfortunately.
  
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- NewMedia
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 5:47pm
  You go Glenn! Ron Paul’s tweet was so incredibly insensitive it wasn’t even funny! What a disgusting person, I used to like him. Time for Mr. Paul to shut his mouth and go away.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z85X6im-4Qs
- ZengaPA65
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 8:17pm
  F you Beck neocon a$$hat fraud.
  
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- inblack
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 9:55pm
  Glenn Beck is a tool. Ron Paul was a fool.
  
  I’m sorry to say that although I agree that Ron Paul’s comment was cruel and misplaced, Glenn Beck’s outrage is even more stupid and shows why BG should not be listened to.
  
  Soldiers are employees. We should love them and care for them, but not worship them. They are getting paid to do a job. If they don’t want to do it, someone else will. They are not above reproach and criticizing them is not an outrage. Glenn needs to take a serious look at himself and his ridiculous “outrage”.
  
  That said Ron Paul was an ass to malign someone who was in his heart attempting to help another person suffering from PTSD and died trying. Our soldiers are not to blame when we citizens send them off to fight in illegal wars. They do not deserve our disdain.
  
  We Americans need to stop supporting foreign intervention. It is not our right to interfere in the middle east and it is not moral for us to mark ourselves judge. Glenn’s personal support of Israel is his right, but it immoral for him to suggest that the US govt take our money and spend it on defending a foreign nation.
  
  Glenn Beck is a progressive on foreign policy and homeland security and every bad characterization of progressives Glenn throws at Hoover are a condemnation of Glenn’s position on military worship, foreign intervention and ongoing illegal and immoral wars.
  
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- TrueColours
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:03pm
  I’m pretty grossed out by Beck’s pontificating holly then thou. Thanks for the wake up call Glenn (2008 – 2011), I’m on to find the truth as it no longer lives here.
  
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- AdvocateSupreme
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:39pm
  True, birds of a feather do flock together. Not coincidently, as soon as I read about Chris Kyle’s death I told my wife, “He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.”
  
  Alas, I (and Ron Paul) stand guilty of plagiarizing the greatest, the Prince of Peace:
  
  Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 (King James Bible, Cambridge Ed.)
  
  Nevertheless, Glenn Beck praises Chris Kyle as “A husband, a father, a son, an unquestioned patriot — a man who didn’t talk about Jesus, but lived his Christian belief . . .” Hmmmm. Ron Paul and I must both misinterpret Matthew 26:52. Jesus probably counseled, “Grab thy sword: for all they that take the sword shall dwell in the Kingdom of God.”
  
  In Chris Kyle’s autobiography (with other authors), “American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History,” Chris Kyle brags:
  
  After the first kill, the others come easy. I don’t have to psych myself up, or do something special mentally — I look through the scope, get my target in the cross hairs, and kill my enemy, before he kills one of my people. ***
  
  On the front of my arm, I had a crusader cross-inked in. I wanted everyone to know I was a Christian. I had it put in red, for blood. I hated the damned savages I’d been fighting. I always will.
  
  I guess Christians live their faith by learning to hate too – the Prince of Peace be da
  
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- AdvocateSupreme
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:41pm
  Glenn Beck further avers, “I thought you knew better than that. Aren’t you a guy that just loves to blame the media on cover-ups — on things like Tower number Seven? Thus, Glenn Beck falsely accuses Ron Paul of sympathizing with the “911 Truther Movement,” although Ron Paul dismissed (unfortunately) the “911 Truther Movement” years ago.
  
  But then again, the truth rarely concerns Glenn Beck . . . only ratings.
  
  “I understand so unbelievably clearly that you don’t like the foreign wars our nation has been involved in . . . some of us are at a different level of understanding.” Glenn Beck, thus, arrogantly accuses Ron Paul of advocating peace because “some of us” possess a superior understanding of the need for war.
  
  In a shocking display of Orwellian pandering Glenn Beck proclaims, “[A]s Americans we don’t go over to the graves of even the German soldiers from WWII and dance on them – because it’s what sets us apart – a fundamental respect for life.”
  
  In other words, “War is peace . . . slavery is freedom and . . . killing is a fundamental respect for life.” Just how “a fundamental respect for life” results in the death, maiming, torture, and displacement of hundreds of thousands people – American soldiers and Iraqi/Afghani civilians – is left unsaid – as is the cost in “blowback” or more terrorism. Indeed, since our war on terrorism – like any war initiated by government, i.e., the war on drugs – terrorism
  
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- AdvocateSupreme
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:43pm
  “Chris Kyle was no different…he was willing to put [himself] out there for a cause that he believed [in],” writes Glen Beck. And what was that cause? Killing people who resisted foreign invasion and occupation to rid a country of non-existent weapons of mass destruction? But then again, the death, maiming, torture, displacement of hundreds of thousands people, and “blowback” or more terrorism is worth the price, I guess, and what a price – over one trillion dollars. For what I ask.
  
  Inquiry: If a foreign power (i.e., China) invaded and occupied the United States and China’s most skillful sniper killed any American who took up arms (we still support the second Amendment, yes?) against the invading armies, is China’s most skillful sniper a hero or a villain? Guess the answer depends on whose ox is being gored or whose country is being invaded.
  
  With every word, Glen Beck proves to be a phony . . . a phony Constitutionalist and a phony Christian. In short, a neoconservative.
  
  Surprisingly however, it comes with sweet irony that Glenn Beck shares something in common with Barack “only the government should kill” Obama – the robust appetite for war and the health of the leviathan state.
  
  Birds of a feather do flock together.
  
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- scarydave
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 11:45pm
  I have tried for many years to shine a light on Ron Paul and show people how he’s NOT the knight in shining armor that Paulbots seem to think he is. However, his dumb statement about ‘living’ and ‘dying by the sword’ makes sense coming from RP. He is after all, and always has been, a Pacifist.
  
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- Iamdarkrider
  Posted on February 7, 2013 at 9:04pm
  Glad you are done if you think this is “Jerry Springer” radio. Chris Kyle was trying to help a fellow Vet! Whether you agree with How he was doing that doesn’t matter. The V.A. has been not helpful to alot of our vets. (Gov’t at it’s worst) Glenn has put his ALL into helping our vets, and our country..I’m willing to bet that most of his critics do little to help. I applaud Glen and his crew. I would be proud to meet him. To bad that the guy our country put in as President isn’t worth a used piece of gum. Given the choice…I’d rather meet Glenn that the moron in chief. I would love to ask some questions of Jay Carney..face to face. That guy is a piece of work! Btw…WHATTHEFRACK…no one forces you to listen dude…that’s freedom of choice..which Glenn supports. Maybe you can try Ed Shultz..lol
  
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:05pm
Mr. Beck,

THANK YOU. Ron Paul is one of the few politicians whose perspective on government & Constitutional matters is consistent. But Ron has really jumpedoff the deep end with this RIDICULOUS tweet about the cold-blooded murder of Chris Kyle.

It sickens & angers me that Ron and some posters here somehow would justify outright murder as “karma” or WORSE the “justice of God” by quoting a Bible verse. Chris Kyle was not a murderer! He was executing sworn enemies of the United States with the full sanction of US Military Law. Chris Kyle was executing the real murderers of innocents on the field of battle.

I won’t be one bit surprised if this nutjob who ended Chris’s life will quote the same scripture when he has his day in court. The Almighty God never has and never will sanction cold-blooded murder. Genesis 4:10

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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:14pm
  One of the more even minded people here man. Nice job. Everyone seems to hate Glenn or hate Ron instead of trying to understand both and where they come from. Well said. Well said.
  
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- Alorian
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:33pm
  I don’t hate Glenn and I don’t hate Ron. I’m very frustrated by Glenn, the author of this article, and many of the posters on this story. If you look at his tweets, if you look beyond the snapshot, the keyhole in the door, you’ll see there’s more to this. Please, for the sake of us all, do some research before you form an opinion. You don’t want to look as uninformed and unintelligent as a liberal, do you?
  
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- Freedom.Fighter
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:41pm
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- Freedom.Fighter
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:48pm
  It doesn’t matter if someone is a sworn enemy of the US, or even that the US military sanctions in sort of war. Neither of those things makes a war legal. Congress is the only entity with the Constitutional authority to declare war. It is indeed inconvenient to think we have Americans ki9lling people illegally. We did not take an oath to shut off our brains and take orders. We took an oath to first and foremost defend the Constitution of the United States. Just because someone kills other people and wears a uniform does not make that person a hero. I’m sorry if that hurts your worldview, but it took me a lot of self-reflection and regret to realize these things as well.
  
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- Freedom.Fighter
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:56pm
  Someone being a sworn enemy of the United States and fighting them by sanction of the US military does not, in fact make it legal. There is only one entity that has the constitutional power to declare war – Congress. It may be inconvenient for your worldview, but Congress has not declared war recently.
  
  Just because someone kills people that don’t like us and wears a uniform, doesn’t make that person a hero. Far from it. We never took an oath in the military to shut off our minds and just follow orders (at least not in the Army).
  
  We swore, first and foremost, to defend the Constitution of the United States. Again, I’m sorry if this doesn’t fit into your worldview. It didn’t mine originally either, but it took a lot of regret and self-reflection. A solid and right worldview must take facts and logic into account, not wishful thinking.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:57pm
  freedom- kyle is absolutely a hero. You’re treating people like the way Vietnam vets were treated when they came home. That’s horrible. I agree somewhat but our troops don’t fall into the disrespect category. Blame our gov’t not them.
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:59pm
  It appears as though liberals are not the only ones concerned with keeping speech politically correct! How ironic!
  
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- Scottscobig
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:00pm
  No one’s defending what happened to Kyle. But your defense of his actions in combat serves poorly to justify what he’s done; what we do overseas.
  
  We, through people like Kyle, are over in foreign countries, meddling in their govts, attacking them when they aren’t and haven’t attacked us. Seriously, how do you conservatives not get that force is for defense, only. If some bad guys were here within our borders attacking us, then it’s okay to kill them. But that’s not happening now and has practically never happened.
  
  Kyle took an oath to protect and defend the constitution. We’ve never had a military action in his lifetime where he’s been called upon to do that. Just because the govt said someone’s a “sworn enemy” or some action is “sanctioned by law” doesn’t make it right. There’s all manner of stuff “sanctioned by law” that flies in the face of morality. And I don’t trust any govt’s definition of “sworn enemy.”
  
  We the people, through our politicians may be more to blame for what Kyle did overseas, but he still had the choice whether to do what he did or not.
  
  Personally, I hold to a higher law: the nonaggression principle, where force is for defense, only. You don’t attack or kill someone who didn’t attack you first. When we try and pretend that principle doesn’t exist and that we’re always the guys in the white hats because we’re America, it becomes very easy to rationalize anything. Killing or aggression of any kind is only ju
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:13pm
  @TH30PH1LUS
  
  1. While it may seem insensitive, it doesn’t make the STATEMENT any bit further from the truth. Kyle lived by the gun, he died by the gun. Our foreign policy has several, big picture consequences aka blow back. This is a case of the consequences of LONG ENDLESS WARS have on our veterans on a smaller, individual level. Both men would be alive right now if we hadn’t still been in TWO wars for over a decade. Not to mention all the other conflicts we’ve participated or aided in within those two decade….
  
  That’s the point of his tweet, which blew right over most of your guys head.
  
  2. So with the new policy that US Drone strikes can be used to kill American Citizens, when they mistake your house with a terrorist house and killed your family while you were at work, it’s ok, they aren’t murderers as they were going after sworn enemies of the US and had full sanction of US Military Law. No problem then right? I’m sure you’ll accept the loss of your entire family because it was a sanctioned US Military operation. They never make mistakes and always makes sure the bad guys are REAL bad guys.
  
  Between January 2004 – December 2009 roughly 109,000 Iraqis were killed in the occupation of their country. Of which, 66,000 were civilian non-combatives. That’s a 60% FAILURE rate. And when lives matter, that is a HUGE discrepancy.
  
  “a fundamental respect for life.”
  
  Unless they’re not American, right?
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:55pm
  @ FREEDOM FIGHTER you write:
  “Just because someone kills people that don’t like us and wears a uniform, doesn’t make that person a hero. Far from it.”
  
  Perhaps it would do you good to read CK’s book and military record. There you will find the definition of HERO. Those who found themselves at the business end of CK’s rifle had a lot more going for them than “they didn’t like us”.
  
  “We swore, first and foremost, to defend the Constitution of the United States.” Something that these guys are hellbent on destroying.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8n-JYdpxU4
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:04pm
  @ Scottscobig
  You write: “Seriously, how do you conservatives not get that force is for defense, only. If some bad guys were here within our borders attacking us, then it’s okay to kill them.”
  
  Seriously, how do YOU not get that other people’s lives and freedoms are also worth defending? By your definition, the ONLY time you sanction military force is when violence occurs to Americans on American soil. Never on behalf of anyone else? So if you are out with your friends and one of them is brutally attacked by thugs – you would not intervene because they weren’t attacking you personally? What a limp-wristed no-good friend you’d be.
  
  I will remind you that Islamic Jihadists murdered 2,740 Americans here on American soil on 9/11. I will remind you that an Islamic Jihadist killed 13 people and wounded 29 others here on American soil at Fort Hood.
  
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- wilsonj72
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:05pm
  Right on!
  
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- INANA85
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:05pm
  Excellent commentary. While many of us wish for peace you can’t pass a law and make it happen. If it was that easy well it would have already been done. While waiting for the return of The Lord, a wise pacifist better keep a few Chris Kyle’s by their side. Better than a hundred Ron Paul’s.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:10pm
  @ American Soldier (Separated)
  You wrote:
  “…Both men would be alive right now if we hadn’t still been in TWO wars for over a decade.”
  
  Both men were very much alive just a few days ago DESPITE the two wars and more than a decade. PTS does not turn men into killers. You know this.
  
  “So with the new policy that US Drone strikes can be used to kill American Citizens… I’m sure you’ll accept the loss of your entire family because it was a sanctioned US Military operation. They never make mistakes and always makes sure the bad guys are REAL bad guys.”
  
  My post is about the murder of Chris Kyle, not drone strikes. Chris Kyle was not a murderer and did not fly drones. Focus.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:17pm
  @fu. You are the one that sounds stoned.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:32pm
  @Theo
  
  “I will remind you that Islamic Jihadists murdered 2,740 Americans here on American soil on 9/11. I will remind you that an Islamic Jihadist killed 13 people and wounded 29 others here on American soil at Fort Hood.”
  
  May I also remind you that we murdered 66,000 non-combatives in Iraq between 2001-2009
  
  May I ALSO remind you of the 500,000 (yea, that’s HALF A MILLION, if anyone else did this, it’d been called GENOCIDE) children due to our sanctions on their country in the early 90′s. I believe the official death toll of Iraqis for the span of US Sanctions is close to 1.5 MILLION people dead.
  
  And while 9/11 was a great tragedy for our nation, 2740 deaths PALE in comparision to the amount of deaths WE have caused THEM.
  
  Or are lives only valuable if they hold a US Citizenship?
  
  And the reason I brought in the Drone attacks is because you brought up legally sanctioned US military law as the excuse for our killing so I asked you a question, in light of the new policy coming from Washington, if they kill your family from a drone strike, is it ok since it was officially sanctioned operation by the US military?
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:38pm
  @Theophilus:
  
  Others’ lives may be worth defending. In that case, YOU go and join THEIR military, and help to defend them.
  
  Other countries are NOT the United States, and do NOT follow its Constitution. You know, the one our soldiers are bound by oath to uphold and defend?
  
  We were supposed to lead the world by example, not go seeking dragons to slay abroad.
  
  For God’s sake, READ THE FOUNDERS’ WRITINGS. IT’S ALL THERE.
  
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- Texas_Hawkeye
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:24pm
  At Ameican Soldier (Seperated), what were you seperated for?? Drugs?? Is that why you are such a RonPaul supprter. I was a combat soldier, and commander in Iraq and Afghanistan. You have no idea what you are talking about. Most civilian casualties were done by insurgents and Al Queda. Get a grip.
  
  At Freedom Fighter, what the F have you ever done?? Have you put on a uniform and protect innocents?? Have you stood face to face with those you disagree with?? Are you willing to stand in front of the tank in Tiennaman Square?? Or are you just some punk ass hiding in your moms basement wearing your RonPaul PJs. All you RP supporters better watch your asses. You may have a former SOF kick your butts for GP. I would suggest you let the family mourn, which is what RonPaul is not doing. That is all. You are irrelivant.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:47pm
  @Hawkeye:
  
  Typical Texan.
  
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- Freedom.Fighter
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:12pm
  @HAWKEYE:
  
  I served the Army for 8 years. Then I served even longer as a defense contractor as an intelligence analyst. As a contractor I was able to see even more behind-the-scenes than before since I was “outside” the usual chain-of-command. I have been able to be a part of the very events that I then got to analyze. This also caused me to start to reflect on a lot of the consequences (intended and unintended) that our actions cause. After cause, there is effect. That is where my job mainly came in, to determine possible effects. None of those effects were ever things like “freedom of speech defended” or “right to peaceably assemble stronger than before.” In fact, it wasn’t even that anyone was made safer here in the U.S. as a consequence. Unfortunately, the effect was usually number representing damage, death, or posturing.
  
  I hope this answers your question in a respectful way. Now, may I present the same question-
  
  What have you done?
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:22pm
  Funny how Beck goes out his way to destroy fellow conservatives. Who you really working for? You coward.
  
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- skunkbear
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:48pm
  TH30PH1LUS:
  
  “Chris Kyle was not a murderer! He was executing sworn enemies of the United States with the full sanction of US Military Law.”
  
  A murderer is someone who kills an innocent person. Please tell me what exactly were the people who Chris Kyle killed guilty of?
  
  So “…the full sanction of US military law” is the basis of human morality? Are you really arguing that the pentagram – I mean – pentagon is the arbitrator of what is legal and therefore moral?
  
  Show your work…
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:20pm
  DLV,
  Why is it that when somebody disagrees with another person, you always assume it is because of “hate” ? That is a crock of crap designed by weak individuals such as yourself to shut the other person down. It is a failed argument. A cowards way to attempt victory they don’t deserve. Hate has not a damn thing to do with it. It is principle. Look it up. Just like the progs, Your arguments sucks so you go with hate and racism. Typical losers view of the world.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:52pm
  @TEXAS_HAWKEYE
  
  Thanks for chiming in. I was worried my streak of having at least ONE person question my service per article I respond to would break today.
  
  If you were in the military, you’d know the difference between separation and being chaptered. I first had my screenname here on the blaze as “American Soldier”. My ETS arrived and I decided not to re-enlist, however, I still had IRR left, so technically I was merely separated. I believe at the time, we had the opportunity to change our screennames, so I added “Seperated” to it as I was not retired. Since then, I no longer have any IRR obligations but I don’t think there’s a means for me to change my screenname anymore.
  
  Thanks for carrying though.
  
  And would those 66,000 have died had we not occupied Afghanistan? Look I understood the need to go after Bin Laden, and so did Ron Paul. But he wanted to do it the legal, constitutional way rather than occupy a country for an entire decade.
  
  I’ve almost gotten into many fist fights with fellow soldiers and veteran. I know a lot of my beliefs are fairly radical, for either side of the isle, however, I stand by my beliefs with conviction of Freedom, even if I don’t agree with them or will ever participate in certain sorts of freedom, I may even think it’s disgusting but that’s the beauty of freedom.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:21pm
  mil-dot- what are you rambling about? My statement on this thread was about respect for our troops nothing else. Seriously go enlighten yourself before typing again.
  
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- Buchanan16
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:23am
  @TH30PH1LUS
  
  I want to give you a big hug because you seem to be the only sane person here.
  I cannot believe half of these posts. Have any of you ever got the thought that maybe the conservative movement is dying and somehow can’t figure out why? Here, I’ll tell you why:
  1. All you old kootz that get on the internet and take everything literally as if it is all 100% true, most of it is not. (SPOILER)
  2. Each and every one of you who take Paul’s side or even Alex Jones side (how did he even make it in here?!) should do a reality check on yourself and get back to common sense (no not alex jones’ version…)
  3. Wonder why old farts like you are in the majority of the conservative population? Simple. YOU SCARE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE ME AWAY FROM CONSERVATISM BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF CRAP YOU POST IN HERE (*cough* infowars *cough*). It really does frighten me. I mean you really do sound like an extremist, not a small-government, common sense responsible citizen.
  
  So how do you fix these 3 things?
  Easy: STOP TAKING THE INTERNET LITERALLY* AND DO A REALITY CHECK
  
  (*Especially Alex Jones**)
  (**Yes I find him insane and crazy, you should too after you do a reality check.)
  
  When you come back to Earth from Alex Jones land or Paulbot island I’ll be happy to talk to you. ;)
  
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justangry
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:04pm
Posted last night on Ron Paul’s FB status…

“As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP”

Glenn Beck you are a disingenuous little worm. No Libertarian is going to fall for your crap. You want to know why NO libertarian wants you in the Party? Because you treat all the Libertarians like ****! There isn’t one Libertarian on here that hasn’t had their Libertarian comments censored. You’re an interventionist. You’re a police statist. You’re HATE the 10th amendment when it comes to vice.

Wonder what Ayn Rand would think about someone who abandoned reason for the Book of Mormon. Or what the Mormon leadership thinks of you bearing false witness about yourself?

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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:07pm
  Oooh, Going all religious from the angry angle always works. Ask any nazi. Bot.
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:11pm
  @Just Angry
  
  well said.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:11pm
  Just- I’m glad Paul clarified, Glenn was going by tweet only and it can be interpreted as rude and insensitive. That’s what Glenn was going on. And again, he even says here he admires Paul but disagrees with him on a few things as I do. I would support him over the disagreements but still. You kind of jumped to a conclusion here.
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:17pm
  Glenn Beck is a thought controlling, fake-patriot, snake oil salesman. Nothing more.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:17pm
  @ JUSTANGRY
  
  RP said “A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies….”
  
  That’s the STUPIDEST drivel ever to fall from RP’s lips. A “policy of non-violence” won’t protect America from violent nutjobs. Jesus didn’t use violence to defend his kingdom because, in His own words :”My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place.” (John 18:36)
  
  Is America heaven? No! America is not heaven, it’s an earthly nation that will only survive on this broken planet when men are willing to fight, kill, and die for it.
  
  If RP is suggesting that America adopt a pacifist posture towards global threats to freedom like Islam, Communism, Nazis, etc… then RP is an idiot who has lost touch with reality. With that attitude, Ron Paul would have never taken up arms to break away from King George and Great Britain during the Revolution.
  
  Wake up
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:18pm
  Here’s a joke. Glenn Beck pretends to care about vets that have PTSD, but supports big war. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:21pm
  @fu. You would know about facists. You truelly are antisemetic
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:22pm
  Theo- Again very well said. That’s my major beef with Paul as well. As if he is blindly walking by the middle east problem that will affect ALL of us.
  
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- A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:23pm
  I’ve agreed with much of what GB has said in the past and thought he was an honest guy exposing bad people. Standing up for freedom. Sometimes I wonder though. I mean, he, a proclaimed libertarian who stands up for rights didn’t even support RP. Now he’s blasting him over a tweet. This causes much doubt.
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:27pm
  Paul Sh-t the bed and Beck called him on it – pretty simple.
  But you tin hat Paulbots fall at the alter of a nut! (patriot nut) I too disagree with Paul’s Foreign policy stands. Love his domestic stands. I guess that makes me bad like Beck.
  
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- Silvertruth
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:29pm
  Feel better? I mean that’s a rant that ignores what Glenn was saying, embraces ideology for the sake of ideology, and embues a singularity of thought (Ayn Rand, Libertarianism) as a pure concept. Top it off with some insults… nice.
  
  You could’ve said it better, you could’ve done it better. Wedges, it’s all wedges.
  
  You should focus on the common ground, which you actually share quite a bit with Mr. Beck if you are a Libertarian. Not all Libertarian’s swallow all Libertarian concepts. That’s true for almost every party. Ron Paul represents a fairly extreme set of Libertarian principals and I have Libertarian friends that like him but don’t agree with him on everything. This is what Mr. Beck was saying. He likes him but he can’t support everything he says or does.
  
  If you focus on the common ground, much of your ‘anger’ will just go away…
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:34pm
  silvertruth- very well said, libertarians need to take your statement and run with it.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:37pm
  @DLV, Anyone who trusts UN intelligence, filtered through our CFR (fascist and bolshevik globalists) controlled media, doesn’t have a good grasp of reality regarding our foreign policy. The religious right is being manipulated by fear dished out by neocon Bolsheviks.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:43pm
  Just- You don’t need to be trusting in the U.N. or anything just listen to what Iran says and the things going on in the world. It’s more or less just common sense lol.
  
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- Alorian
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:46pm
  @justangry thanks for posting what Paul wrote on his Facebook page. I tried pointing it out to people, to show them an easy way to do their own research here, but they’d rather be fed their opinions. It’s safer to have Glenn tell them what to think than to go out and actually find information and form their own thoughts.
  
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- A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:58pm
  RP is not a pacifist or an isolationist. He believes in not sending out troops to every place in the world over every little thing on a whim. He understands the consequences of doing this: more debt (without the gold standard the FED can print as much worthless money as they want, which makes us more quick to go to war), more lives lost (military and innocent civilians), more soldiers lives ruined when coming home (divorce, PTSD, other medical problems), and a weaker less safe nation.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:08pm
  @DLV Like mistranslated threats GB and the Blaze ran with? Seriously, if Libertarian Beck wanted to reflect our values why not use Michael Scheuer, and Karen Kwiatkawski as foreign policy consultants? Both Libertarians, one head of the Bin Laden Unit in the CIA and the other a Lt. Col. Intel officer working in the Pentagon during the rise of the neocons before the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Nope Whacky Boiken and sports caster turned terror expert over night at the CBN and a Rabbi with a shady past are his guys.
  
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- Lovesmesomeglennbeck
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:25pm
  Paulbot!
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:25pm
  Like mistranslated threats GB and the Blaze ran with? ”
  
  Like what? How is A-jad’s threats mistranslated? He has made it abundantly clear he and other iranian gov’t officials want israel gone. There is 0 doubt about that. To believe otherwise is foolish. It’s been said several times. and I heard from literally everywhere. Every news source etc.
  
  “Nope Whacky Boiken and sports caster turned terror expert over night at the CBN and a Rabbi with a shady past are his guys.”
  Seems like opinion here to me.
  
  Beck obviously didn’t know about the FB statement by Paul because he hopes Paul made an error in judgement. Do I think Glenn went a little overboard? Yes, but he is a bit right at the same time. He was angry but also respectful of Paul.
  
  ? Both Libertarians, one head of the Bin Laden Unit in the CIA and the other a Lt. Col. Intel officer working in the Pentagon during the rise of the neocons before the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?”
  Not sure, but to me that’s not a huge deal. You guys are very complacent about kicking Beck when it seems like he agrees with Paul on a lot. He even says in the video that he wants troops out of Asia and europe etc. He just wishes other libertarians to be more respectful is all. That’s a good request to make in my opinion.
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:48pm
  “Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences”
  
  Sorry, JUSTANGRY, but I have to disagree with the premise of RP’s statement. The guy who murdered Kyle would have had PTSD with or without the declaration of war by congress. I too wish that war was never necessary, but I think we both agree that sometime we have no choice if we are to preserve our rights and defend the defenseless.
  
  As for the Book of Mormon comment – from our past conversations I know you are very respectful of others’ beliefs… so I’m presuming that you were just riled up when you wrote the post :)
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:51pm
  What level of stoned do you need to be in to ‘converse’ with a bot? Does a bag or Doritos or Cheetos ever help? Bolsheviks and neocons again. It’s like Nov 12 in Feb 13 for bots. Does the good doc work on your FB farm for proper backing?
  
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- mcsledge
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:37pm
  Wonder what Ayn Rand would think about someone who abandoned reason for the Book of Mormon.
  
  What, you are too good for the words of additional Prophets testifying of Jesus Christ and His earthly mission? What, you are to good for the words spoken by Christ in a visit after His Resurrection to ancestors of today’s Native Americans? Reason seeks truth and The Book of Mormon is true.
  
  By your own words you have condemned your eternal state. I hope that you revisit that thought because it could have eternal consequences.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:23pm
  @P8riot, You actually attributed something I quoted from Ron Paul as something I said. That was from his follow up post.
  
  Objectivism and mysticism are at odds. There’s no use ***** footing around it. All religions seem to be at odds with Objectivism. I did not intend to single out Mormons here. If that’s how I came off, I apologize.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:36pm
  “Logic is man’s method of reaching conclusions objectively by deriving them without contradiction from the facts of reality—ultimately, from the evidence provided by man’s senses. If men reject logic, then the tie between their mental processes and reality is severed; all cognitive standards are repudiated, and anything goes; any contradiction, on any subject, may be endorsed (and simultaneously rejected) by anyone, as and when he feels like it.” | The Objectivist
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:56pm
  I think that religion can inform the compassionate parts of your thought processes, if you let it.
  
  My own take on religious teachings, when war is involved:
  
  Love thy neighbor as thyself. Live and let live. But if thy neighbor strikes thee grievously, smite him in his land, and in his cattle, and in his dwellings. Leave not one stone standing atop another. But be sure, first. Really, really sure. Because the consequences of your actions are known only to God.
  
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- TRONINTHEMORNING
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:10pm
  In one of your rants, you said “GB sucks.” No, what sucks is your guy has been shown to be a jerk and it sucks for you. Ron Paul has shown that he can’t suck enough. Enough said.
  
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  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:29pm
  @Tron, I came out yesterday against the initial tweet because I don’t think he was treating vets with PTSD as individuals. I came out against Glenn Beck for being a bearer of false witness. If GB were a Libertarian why would he attack our guy merely for quoting the Bible he claims to admire as well? Or demonize him every chance he had during the primaries? Why are all the Libertarians here PO’d at him? Why do all the Libertarians complain about censorship on his site? Why did he also demonize Gary Johnson? You don’t have to like our philosophy, but at least we’re HONEST about who we are. Bottom line is Libertarians support Libertarians and Neocons support Neocons. Didn’t he send all you Tea Party folks to Neocon Dick Army’s camp @ Freedomworks? (suckers) You can spew your crap at Ron Paul all you want, but he’s never tried to deceive you about what he stands for. The same can’t be said about GB.
  
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- TRONINTHEMORNING
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:50pm
  Never been a member or a supporter of FREEDOMWORKS; I have interviewed a few folks from AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY before the election. I haven’t listened to BECK in at least a year and though all of that is immaterial to the subject of the little jerk, Ron Paul; I thought I’d get you up to speed as to who I am and am not involved with. I spend my time on my show with true conservatives such as Michelle Malkin, David Limbaugh, Kate Obenshain–folks like that. And these folks also see Dr. Paul as a fading fancy at best. But after yesterday, even son Rand can’t clean up that mess. Love to have you call in my show sometime. 719-570-1530 and online at http://www.i25talk.co I am on 8a-10a eastern and 3p-4p eastern.
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:27pm
  Glenn worked for CNN and you people believe him? LOL
  
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- ERP
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:25am
  @No_More_War_Please
  
  What’s up, moron? If you actually listened to Beck then you would no he stopped supporting the “War” several years ago. First of all, the War ended when Kabul and Baghdad both fell. Everything after that was the result of not getting out of there quickly.
  
  No more war please? I already know you are a coward but are you this naive?
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 8:47am
  Iraqi’s were not islamic jihadists-neither were alquada but that’s another story.[they were islamic jihadists in the sense that they were resisting policies imposed on mostly muslim people in muslim lands but they were not all fundamentalists seeking to impose islam on the whole world-nonsense.Osama was not a fundamentalist.] Iraqis did not attack us but resisted us when we invaded. As was their right and as we would do if invaded.Fox and the anti muslim/arab neocons have fed you propaganda and you gulls fall for whatever narrative they come up with. The world and its people do not belong to us and kyle was brainwashed into believing the most un -american of beliefs;that every man,woman and child anywhere and everywhere should submit to us and our interests.HE was the one who betrayed his american values-not ron paul or any one who calls out these betrayers of american values. Kyle became a mass murderer and a war criminal and should have been tried as one.
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 5:39pm
  Ah I see the Blaze has been hard at work censoring my comments. Not very befitting of someone who claims to value liberty is it?
  
  @ERP,
  Cut the nonsense. Everyone here knows that Glenn Beck was a cheerleader for the Iraq war. I do not care that he later changed his views as soon as popular opinion turned against the war just like I do not care that Mitt Romney changed his views regarding almost every important issue as soon as it became politically expedient for him to do so as well.
  
  The fact is Glenn Beck is still very much pro-war, and the last person who deserves to be allowed to speak on foreign policy. If it were up to me, Beck would be silenced the moment he brought up anything to do with foreign policy. Sure, he can be allowed to speak on economic issues regarding domestic policy, but keep him out of foreign policy entirely. He is the least credible person in the entire world when it comes to this issue.
  
  P.S. Do you think it’s merely a coincidence that Glenn Beck has managed to tick off almost every libertarian on this site?
  
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No_More_War_Please
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:04pm
Ah yes, Glenn Beck, thought controller extraordinaire! So let me guess, we’re not allowed to question someone’s actions? We can’t say that it was an error in judgment for Kyle to take a man with PTSD to a place surrounded by weapons? What pantheon of the gods does Chris Kyle belong to? What makes him so super human that we aren’t even allowed one single, solitary thought questioning his motives and actions?

Give me a break with this fake outrage Glenn, you are the biggest hypocrite of them all. You pretend to care about veterans returning from war with post traumatic stress disorder only when it is politically expedient for you to do so! Yet you support all of the big, unconstitutional, unnecessary wars that produce PTSD! If you really cared about Chris Kyle, you would demand an end to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Mali, etc. If you cared about the lives of people you would demand an end to the constant bombings with drones that takes place in over eight different countries. But we all know you won’t do any of that. Those kinds of opinions are only expressed by true patriots like Ron Paul. Patriots that have opinions that exist outside of the 3×5 card of approved opinion that spans from Hilary Clinton to Mitt Romney. People that actually care about following the Constitution in its entirety (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11), not just pieces of it.

Glenn, it’s time to admit that you are a Republican establishment shill. You are no friend of

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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:17pm
  *freedom.
  
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- Naps
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:24pm
  If you look up the word “Shill” in the dictionary? You’ll find Glenn’s face under it.
  
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- ZengaPA65
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 8:18pm
  Good to see ppl are getting wise to this clown.
  
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cdn1979
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:02pm
get your heads out of your backsides. DOCTOR Ron Paul is correct. I would prefer the opinion of a doctor when discussing a medical condition such as PTSD. Glenn beck is no doctor. this is a perfect example of improving mental health to reduce gun violence instead of other less effective idea’s that are being floated out there. Ron Paul did not disrespect the dead vet. All he said was this guy spent is his life around guns and killing and when that’s all you know and you try and use it to solve a problem, bad things can happen. We don’t know the mindset of the killer, but its a dumb idea to take someone suffering from PTSD due to war and get them shooting guns.

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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:08pm
  Paul may know about PTSD but it doesn’t mean he knew about Kyle’s situation. Also, Kyle didn’t live by the sword, he defended his country. Big difference. Conquerors live by the sword.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:09pm
  As a free lance OBGYN, I concur. Spread em and shut the pie hole.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:22pm
  @DLV
  
  What exactly did we go to Iraq for again?….
  
  WMD’s?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:29pm
  Yeah I wasn’t a huge fan of the war, but that’s not Kyle’s decision to go objecting orders. He did his job and we don’t spit on veterans because they were in wars we didn’t like such as Vietnam. Horrible treatment by people for Vets.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:02pm
  @wakingsheep
  Try reading the declaration of war passed by Congress. It wasn’t just the threat of the WMD he had (he did possess chemical weapons and had used them before) it was also a response to the fact that they had attacked other nations 5 times.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:13pm
  @TZion:
  
  Show me the Declaration of War.
  
  I saw an “Authorization to use military force”, but that’s an ABDICATION of the responsibility of Congress for the War power. Instead of DIRECTING the President to execute a War, they gave him leave to inject our military into a meat grinder.
  
  There is a difference, not the least of which is that one is Constitutional, and the other is NOT.
  
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- wewingtonheet
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:29pm
  Norm D. Plume,
  
  Forgive my lack of proper protocol (if there is a commenting protocol!), but do you have a blog? There are precious few who seem to have a logical take on things in this world and even fewer that can cogently write about it.
  
  Thanks in advance!
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:23pm
  Defended his Country? He didn’t defend nothing.
  
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- skunkbear
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:13pm
  DLV:
  
  “Also, Kyle didn’t live by the sword, he defended his country. Big difference. Conquerors live by the sword.”
  
  Conquerors are those who invade other people’s countries. Kyle was not shooting from within the shores of amerika. He was shooting other people from within their own country. So, yeah, he was living by the sword. Is there anything more contemptible than killing innocent people?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:25pm
  skunk- Um, wrong
  
  A. he was not conquering anything, he was shooting terrorists and the enemy not civilians. Please tell me what “innocent” he killed? He killed animals people lower than dirt, Nazgul status, satans little minions, teeth nashing hell hounds and put them away. He never once killed any women and children. Go read up please and not make ignorant statements. Alexander hte Great was a conquerer, Napoleon was a conqueror, Caesar was a conqueror. Chris Kyle was a soldier killing twisted evil sick sub humans.
  
  Can you see how wrong you are yet or do we need to go to round two?
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:36am
  First passage in his book, he recounts shooting a woman.
  
  Would you like to try again?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 1:43am
  Norm- what’s the context? Context is everything. Was he like “oh like an innocent Iraqi woman lets go shoot her in the face! Muahahahaha!”
  or was it more like this…
  
  “Oh crap that lady has explosives around her waist and is going to detonate them, think fast!” Pulls trigger*
  
  See one sounds quite evil, the other pretty justfied. When you just say he shot a woman it makes sound like he is a murderer. And if he really did shoot a woman in cold blood why wasnt he prosecuted by the military? They don’t just allow errors in judgement like that contrary to what people here may think. A guy who went on a killing spree in Afghanistan was arrested and put on trial and rightfully so. See what I mean?
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 9:59am
  Kyle’s country did not need defending from iraqis as iraqis never invaded or threatened us.If you believe Kyle was ‘defending his country’ then so too was Osama-a professed freedom fighter fighting to liberate his people from western imposed policies[which actually harmed his people-like our propping up dictators and blind one sided support of zionist occupation and ethnic cleansing].
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 10:45am
  “He never once killed any women and children.” — DLV
  
  I’ll admit I was being a pedant, but this statement, nestled inside your rant, required laser-guided precision.
  
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- skunkbear
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 9:10pm
  DLV:
  
  “A. he was not conquering anything, he was shooting terrorists and the enemy not civilians.”
  
  Um, invading another country and imposing your will on them is indeed conquering. The people defending their country from the invaders are not terrorists, they are patriots.
  
  ” Please tell me what ‘innocent’ he killed?”
  
  Do you not understand the difference between an aggressor and the person defending himself from same? The person who breaks into another person’s home is the aggressor and it is the absolute right of the homeowner to defend himself. The aggressor is the guilty one and cannot claim “self defense” while attacking his innocent victim. And so it is with nations. ALL of the people Kyle killed were innocent. It is the absolute right of every citizen in the countries we invade to kill every amerikan military person on their soil. Aggressor = guilty; defender = innocent. I cannot make it any simpler than that.
  
  “He killed animals people lower than dirt, Nazgul status, satans little minions, teeth nashing hell hounds and put them away…Chris Kyle was a soldier killing twisted evil sick sub humans.”
  
  Wow! … I mean really, wow! But for the sake of argument, let us assume your assessment is correct, Herr Eichmann. Yet by what authority does amerika have to exterminate them? BTW, have you ever been to any these “animals” countries and met these “sub humans” or do you just believe the gubment propaganda that anyone who resists amerika’s assau
  
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WhatTheFrack
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:01pm
Hey GB; GTH.

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Miami
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:58am
I’ve said it before and I will say it again

Ron Paul is a nut bar, this is just more proof to his nuttiness

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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:02pm
  No he isn’t. He made one sloppy remark as we all do. I’m sure Kyle would forgive him as I would.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:19pm
  No he has made many “sloppy remarks” or what I would call asinine statements from reason Muslims hate us is because of our “Actions” to legalizing heroin too “Xenophobic” view of the middle east IE Israel
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:24pm
  I disagree with Paul’s foreign policy issues if that’s what you are referring to. He is blind about that. But his policy towards just going by the constitution is not being a “nut job.”
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:30pm
  Yes and Liberals believe that Constitution is Alive, and I believe they’re nuts as well. Believing you can deal with animals like Castro makes you a nut bar
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:41pm
  Lol again his FP is a no as you mentioned, but domestic policy is a yes. He doesn’t believe the constitution is alive, he thinks it’s dead and unchanging. He isn’t a nutjob just blind to some of the problems in the world.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:44pm
  I believe he also said that building a fence on the border would be used to keep us in…?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:51pm
  Did he say that? I thought that was Gary Johnson saying open border policies is good which is retarded.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:59pm
  He’s blind by choice
  
  Blind on so many issues makes you as sane as Pelosi…
  
  Not to bring up his earmark HYPOcrisy
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:02pm
  He said it first, gots to go…
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:05pm
  Blind by choice isn’t great but that doesn’t mean he is a nut job on anything. Insulting me and calling me as sane as Pelosi just made you lose all credibility in my eyes. I’m trying to have a level headed argument hearing both sides and you just jumped to a conclusion.
  
  As GLADOS did you get a slow clap. clap* clap* clap*
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:09pm
  MIAMI – the Constitution is neither alive nor dead, it a set of laws and principles that set the foundation for an ever evolving society.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:21pm
  Paul is as sane as Pelosi no you
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:28pm
  No iraqi ever killed an american because he/she is not a muslim. They fought back when we invaded and occupied them.Same for the palestinians-they resist illigal land grabs and occupation. Al quada attacked us because of our unjust meddling in their homelands-since they identify as muslims-they say that they are resisting our injust meddling in the homelands which harms muslims- and call their resistence a jijad-a defenseive war.[colonial division, post colonial dictators, one sided zionist support,below market oil prices for propping up the saudi royals,military bases in their sacred land,etc].The arab spring uprisings against our puppet regimes confirms that alquada was or should have been a natural ally. They are not fundamentalists[osama wasn't and neither was his core group] but freedom fighters who supported the egyptain uprising against tyrants.We got it wrong -propping up dictators and it came back to harm us.Christians and jewish arabs lived in the mid east in islamic theocracies for over 1700 years-peacefully till the colonizers divided up their land and supported the european zionist settlers. Then for cold war purposes we supported dictators. This resistence by muslims today is part of that cold war legacy. Iraqis probably would have risen up again saddam had we not invaded and occupied and terrorised them. We pitted one group against another. We’re the biggest terrorists going and Kyle epitomized that.
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:22pm
  Glenn is a nut job and a pansy that gave in to corruption.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:38pm
  rose-ellen
  
  For the incredibly slow people Muslims have been at war with the United States since it was founded. The reason we have a marine corps is be cause of the Muslim Pirates who were raiding US flagged merchant ships in the 1800′s leading to Barbary Wars, They later sided the German Kaiser in the IWW ending in the fall of the Ottoman Empire, Which lead to the formation of the Muslim Brotherhood who’s mission was to reestablish a Muslim Caliphate.And so joined forces with Hitler’s Nazis in the IIWW.
  
  When not warring against each other for control, they’ve always been at war with the US and western way of life.
  
  The only Puppet I see here are Muslim apologist
  
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  PoliticiansRCrooks
  
  If Glenn is such a Nut, what are you doing here?
  
  You do know Ron Paul is a politician…? right…?
  
  Glenn may be a lot of things but what he has been is more right than wrong and he has put his money where he feeds the cake. Affecting real lives, helping real people, what has Ron Paul done other than talk and blame? What are his answers other than close the fed and bring home all the troops? What affect will that vacuum have on the world and the US as a result…?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 1:36am
  miami- well said on the last part. I would love to know what all the I hate GB people think of that. He has done more to help people than most ever will.
  
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snowmonk
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:55am
As a twenty plus year veteran I would like to thank you Glenn for letting this buffoon have a peace of your mind. If I were to say how I feel you would not print it.

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lvjohn
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:48am
I cannot support his son because the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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- strawberry411a
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:54am
  Agreed.
  
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- ChildOfTheKing
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:54am
  I am sorry, but I DISAGREE. Anyone in their right mind would never take someone being treated for PTSD to a firing range and put a run in their hand. THIS WAS JUST WRONG. It is like taking a drug addict to a pharmacy and allowing them access.
  
  Sorry Glenn, it is not that I agree or disagree with your rebuke, IT IS THAT I DISAGREE WITH TAKING ANY PTSD PERSON TO A FIRING RANGE. This is insane..
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:54am
  That’s just wrong
  
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- RANGER1965
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:03pm
  @CHILDOFTHE KING
  
  Listen up and learn somthing. PTSD is not a diagnosis of insanity. Despite what you may think a very significant percentage of our active duty military have PTSD, and they do an honorable and fine job.
  
  There is a difference between PTSD and a violent, unhinged man which is what this man appears to be.
  
  If it turns out that Kyle knew about this guy’s history, ignored it, and tried to treat him,then you would be right. Kyle made a deadly error in judgement, but not because of PTSD, but other mental disorders this guy had.
  
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- theaton
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:09pm
  Childoftheking,
  There is nothing wrong with taking someone with PTSD to a gun range and letting them shoot. Guns are not the problem. In your example of an addict, you are correct that you wouldn’t give them access to a pharmacy. You can’t compare that to PTSD and firearms. Firearms are not the cause of PTSD. The horrors of war are the cause.
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:23pm
  @LVJOHN
  
  I think eroding the support for Rand Paul was the point of this whole little rant….and I guess its working since he’s molded your simple little mind like playdough.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:27pm
  LvJohn- It can and does fall far from the tree. Rand is different from his dad especially on FP which is why I like him more. I’d be wiling to bet money that Glenn will support rand in 16.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:32pm
  I agree with Ranger, most solders who have been in combat will have some form of PTSD. To live through the carnage of war to return home and become a civilian again, it’s a hard transition.
  
  If war doesn’t change you, then there was probably something terribly wrong with you before hand. I know I am not the same person I was before I joined.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:11pm
  Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a made up illness that describes a person who is already mentally ill but it is blamed being exposed to combat. These people have other mental illness that is unrelated to the tour. Hundreds of thousands of men and women have gone to theaters and came back and re-associated successfully with the populace. Those that cannot, have some other brain-wires crossed. Did Kyle have PTSD? No? That’s right, because he is normal. Those that get “it” are already DNA rejects.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:06pm
  Mil-dot- that was one of the stupidest things I’ve read in a while. Do you honestly, believe war does not F@#$ with the the brain? Some people are affected by PTSD and same are not. It’s really that simple. It’s not a conspiracy by the psychologists. You go to war see someone’s head blown off one of your friends get blown up by an I.E.D. and then come back and tell me everything is peachy-keen. I am beginning to see why people think the blaze has nut jobs. Slow clap for you. clap* clap* clap*
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:25pm
  DLV,
  I stand by my statement. That’s right, go for the insults when someone disagrees. The cowards argument is what it is called, My dad got his ass shot off and had mortors lobbed in daily in Da Nang 1968-69 and he came back just fine. The weak and the already mentally ill cannot handle it. Sorry that hurts your feelings. I stand by what I said. If you don’t like it, then that is just tough crap. You are entitled to your opinion.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:30pm
  mil-dot- I only insult people who make mind numbingly stupid arguments, even then it’s not alright but I’m compelled to anger. Otherwise I”m a very level headed person who is the last one to hurl insults. Thank your dad for his service however, everyone is different and just because your dad came back fine doesn’t mean everyone is fine. I’m willing to bet you’re not a psychologist and don’t know the first thing about some of the things people had to witness and deal with it. As a wise man once said war is hell.” If it’s hell then people are bound to be screwed up in the head after witnessing it. Use your brain and stop making silly statements. I’m sure you’re smarter than that.
  
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spudwhite
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:47am
Hey Glenn,
Time to reread Matthew 7:5
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:03pm
  And………
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:03pm
  Amen Spud.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:08pm
  Something bout satan being able to quote scripture. Hmm.
  
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- Johnny Cocheroo
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:19pm
  Sounds about right spud.
  
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willingtoupe
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:45am
NO NO NO Glen. Common effing sense. You don’t take someone with slight mental disorder to a gun range or anywhere or around an area where there is potential death For example, around a construction site. You want to be a friend and treat someone? Take them out to dinner, or a Django movie, or a sports or entertainment arena. Even a casino, strip club, or a brothel. But no no no not a friggin’ gun range. Ron Paul is right! And Rand Paul needs to continue is crusade against funding our tax dollars to Israel. Come on now, please stop it.

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- ChildOfTheKing
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:03pm
  I agree with you. DO NOT PLACE A GUN IN A MENTALLY UNBALANCED EX-SOLDIER’S HANDS.
  
  I feel bad for Mr. Kyle and his family, but Mr. Kyle was not thinking sensibly.
  
  If the PTSD soldier was made to have a background check, would he pass it? NO.
  Then, if this is true, the Mr. Kyle broke the law.
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:06pm
  They(ptsd-ers) can legislate and postulate and operate. Punching holes in paper can be very therapeutic. We should shore up the border with nothing but people with ptsd.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:46pm
  I agree, range time is very therapeutic. But this is a man who was in and out of mental hospitals, drinking and possible drug problems, and even threatened to KILL his family. If he’s willing to kill his own family, what’s a stranger or a neighbor to him?
  
  The fact that he had shown suicidal and even homicidal thoughts should have been enough of a red flag the whole range idea. Or at least monitor him thoroughly.
  
  20/20 hind sight and all…
  
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Gargent_Furball
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:43am
Stop and think about what Ron Paul said. I don’t think it was meant to be disrespectful.
I kinda thought the same thing. A soldier needs two years of DE-compression after battle.

This is crazy to send a trained killer , straight back to civilian hood. That just doesn’t work.

Who is making these decisions. ?

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- Supah_Patriot
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:48am
  You really expect Beck and his fans to “stop and think?”
- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:06pm
  From his FB account last night. “As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP”
  
  GB SUCKS!
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:07pm
  Have either of you served…?
  
  Well I did and went straight into a classroom upon my return from action.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:11pm
  More good doctors.
  
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Bonnieblue2A
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:41am
Truly disgusting remarks by Glenn Beck in equating Fmr. Rep. Paul to Westboro. Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin are acting as though they are nothing tools for the neo-Con Carl Rove to destroy the liberty movement. Glenn’s comments were, like Ron Paul’s first tweet that started the firestorm, completely unnecessary and disrespectful. Glenn did not honor Kyle’s memory or achievement by his dastardly accusations against Dr. Paul. No, instead Glenn Beck chose to lower the bar instead of taking the high road.

As a long time listener/subscriber I could not be more disgusted by Mr. Beck than I am at his comments today. Bad form Mr. Beck, really bad form. Suggest Mr. Beck go back to the bible and read what it says about bearing false witness against his neighbor.

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- circleDwagons
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:01pm
  @Bonnie. Totally agree with you. Why doesn’t Beck man up and invite Dr.Paul to a sit down. Beck calls himself a christian, I am disappointed.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:14pm
  Hallelujah and amen.
  
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- Lovesmesomeglennbeck
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:30pm
  Lay off of Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin, those two are good decent people and you are attacking them. Glenn has been calling for the troops to come home for six years and you guys don’t see that. Stop attacking Glenn Beck.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 2:32pm
  @loveme. We are not attacking Beck. We are calling him out. It was Beck who said to question with boldness. If Beck loves Dr. Paul so much to callhim out then we who love Beck should call him out.
  
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kadster01
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:40am
http://www.dukehoopblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/someone-is-wrong-on-the-internet.jpg

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Rillobymorning
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:34am
Thank you, Glenn. It needed to be said. I was beginning to wonder if Rand shouldn’t be having a little chat with dad about his apparent senility.

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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:44am
  No, nothing as hateful as Glenn said about Ron Paul “needed to be said”. Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkn are simply throwing chum in the water in order to destroy the liberty movement. Glenn worked long and hard to destroy Ron Paul in the 2012 race and them tried to pick up the mantel of libertarianism and proclaim himself the leader. Mr. Beck is allowing his fame to take him to the dark side and false accusations like his today are proof of that.
  
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- CatB
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:44am
  A talk that is LONG overdue. However I do think it is past that point and Rand needs to go to the experts regarding care for Ron.
  
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- AnimalsAsLeaders
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:56am
  @BONNIE
  
  Nailed it.
  
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DLV
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:32am
Ah ha ah ha ah ha ah ha, to all Ron Paul fans there you go. Beck likes Paul but disagrees with him on several things but respects his devotion to the constitution. So Soy, JustAngry and the rest can stop bad mouthing. Accept him at his word. He more or less says why he didnt support him in the 12 election right here.

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- Alorian
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:38am
  I’m a fan of the truth. If you were willing to do a few minutes of your own research, instead of ingesting your spoon fed news, you might be better informed and have a slight bump in your intelligence level. Just food for thought (on a spoon for you, as you’re accustomed to).
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:43am
  look im a fan of Paul, but was never willing to throw Glenn under the bus as all of you were ready to do because he didn’t support Paul. And I don’t know what you’re talking baout spoon fed Glenn says it right here about why he likes and doesn’t like Paul. You either take a person at his word or don’t. And if you don’t believe Glenn (he has no reason to lie) then that’s you’re problem.
  
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- Alorian
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:52am
  I’ll just ignore the blaring errors in grammar there…
  
  This story, and Glenn’s story, were lacking in all the details surrounding this. You’re only getting a peek through a keyhole with what Glenn and this story are saying, and you’re judging based on that. I like a lot of what Glenn says, and I like this website. I have a problem that most of what Glenn says, and what The Blaze reports, is as one-sided as MSNBC. Whatever happened to journalistic integrity? You won’t find it here, clearly, as can be seen from this story.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:00pm
  I was typing fast sorry.
  
  I can see what you mean about being one sided sometimes. I do wish Glenn would invite more liberals on for debate but he can things the way he likes. It’s also possible he created the blaze for a conservative angle in a media that is absolutely liberal. In fact, I would say Fox is more unbiased than the blaze. However, it does say on the title, the Blaze is an opinion site as well as news. So we get “news” and we also get “opinion.”
  
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- Alorian
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:25pm
  I’m just concerned about this kind of thing because unlike me, and I’m guessing you, there are quite a few that only stick to one news or opinion site for all their information. Glenn Beck and the Blaze are very one-sided, and I know too many that only listen to that one side. I don’t like having my opinions provided for me.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:44pm
  well I read multiple news sources like Yahoo as well, and try to gather things online as well to get a bit of everything. But I do go to Blaze for my conservative side.
  
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jungle J
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:32am
As a combat vet I am somewhat confused about rp tweet and at the same time wondering if his mind said it in a different context…I would not have voted for rp unless it was against o. I also don’t see kyles killer as a ptsd soldier but a psychopath or possibly a progressive plant.

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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:54am
  @jungle J…ditto.
  
  Regardless of RP’s positions he was better than Romney. He got a bad rap for being against the military, which he was not, he was against nation building and sending every dictator money. He had more good positions than bad. He may not have used the appropriate words, but I don’t think he meant it the way most are positioning it.
  
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- Desertcatn
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:12pm
  Yes, there’s more to this and anyone coming out and saying anything about that possibility, is branded a conspiracy nut. Sometimes we have to look at the whole pattern or we miss what is right in front of us.
  
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- AdmiralQ
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:39pm
  My opinion on RP is this. In economic issues he’s spot on and would be perfect for sect of treasurary. However he is ignorant on foreign affairs. He we don’t need so many bases on foreign soil or get into every conflict but he goes to far. We CAN’T be that isolationist again or we’ll have more battles on on OUR SOIL. And his comments on Kyle has lessened my respect for him. And to Paulers out there YOU are your own worst enemy. You attack people who are your allies just because they’re not PURE ENOUGH. The last people who attacked on purity were Nazi’s so take a GOOD look in the mirror and see the damage you do to your cause, your party, and yourself.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:26pm
  @AdmiralQ:
  
  How is it that returning our guys to our soil, and beefing up our DEFENSES (not our offensive military capability) would result in more wars being fought HERE? Wouldn’t the effect be rather the opposite?
  
  And by putting our guys in these situations overseas, and blowing up innocent people (and American citizens!) with drones, are we not inciting anger against ourselves? Whom, then, is there on scene, to suffer the brunt of the anger caused by our foreign policy? If you said, “our troops”, give yourself a gold star.
  
  Paul is correct. If our guys were HERE DEFENDING instead of THERE OFFENDING, our security position would be MUCH better. We’d not be spending tons of money on a military whose mission is unclear (but whose mission should be: DEFEND the United States, you know?). We’d not have our guys scattered all over the globe, sitting in each and every Islamic Hell-hole on the planet, waiting to be attacked.
  
  We should DEFEND ourselves, develop our own energy resources, (re-) develop our own agriculture and industry, adopt a stable currency, and tell the world to pound sand. If we collapse here, our light is extinguished. If we defend, rather than offend, our light will not be extinguished.
  
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SamIamTwo
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:29am
Wonder how his son feels about his father’s dumb comment. You know there should be an age limit at which you can and can’t us the virtual world. Living vicariously via the net can be dangerous. Some of the things you say in the virtual world you (one) would never say in public…and we who hide behind the keyboard are not as bad and evil as others would have you think.

lets meet at the tav and shoot some pool, eh?

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Alorian
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:28am
Apparently Glenn Beck, The Blaze, and its readers are rather reactionary to the media, as are most liberals on the other side of the spectrum.
Did any of you bother to read his following tweet(s) with further comments on his original tweet? Twitter only allows you so many characters, remember. He followed up on Facebook. Did anybody bother reading that?

Glenn Beck has been opposed to Paul for a long time, and his mind is not exactly open here.

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- Fubared
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 9:10pm
  Uh, not sure, but don’t you have to first qualify as a bot to follow the good doc on fb, twitter, skype, email, web, snail mail, and chem trails/smoke signals? Why would an average Joe with too few hours in the day take to following a retired doc/congressman? Did he invent peanut butter? What was some of his stellar legislation while in office?
  
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RevinNY
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:25am
hmm. i was about to post the same scripture verse on fb – i didn’t know that Mr. Paul beat me to it until i read this.

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- qpwillie
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:36am
  @RevinNY
  How about this one.
  Luke 22:36
  “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
  
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- ishshah
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:52pm
  @ qpwillie, The often misunderstood quote from Luke has been abused by those who only think that Jesus was saying, OK you all need to start carrying around weapons. But is that really what he is saying?
  Jesus explained what he meant in the next verse. For the time has come for this prophecy about me to be fulfilled: ‘He was counted among the rebels.’ For everything written about me by the prophets is reaching it’s fulfillment. Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” he said.
  In essence Jesus was saying, In order to fulfill that which is written of me, go and buy a sword for it is written, He was counted among the law breakers.(his disciples) When his disciples said, look Lord, we have two swords.Then he responded by saying, Enough already! (Have you yet no understanding?)
  
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KickinBack
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:24am
Perhaps RP is a little disgruntled? Still not happy for not getting the Republican nod? Well, RP does have quite the following. He could always start his own country. I hear there’s a vacancy open in this little area in Guyana…

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- neverending
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:36am
  Yeah – maybe we could pay for a one way ticket for him to go there.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:14pm
  I would rather live in a Paul country then in an obama or romney country. Paul is a great American, he is a christian and supports the Constitution. God bless Paul, America bless God
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:25pm
  circled- yes, I agree but he is blind to some foreign policy issues.
  
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- neverending
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:46pm
  @ CIRCLEDWAGONS – No thanks to either one but hope you enjoy what’s coming our way with the commie’s second term as the paulbots certainly helped to make that happen.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:11pm
  It ain’t the Paultroons’ fault that the GOP put up a Romney as a candidate. Or a McCain.
  
  It ain’t the Paultroons’ fault that the GOP is re-aligning with Karl Rove, so you can expect more of the same from them. Expect Beck to toe the line again, too, even though he’s making good noises on that front, now. He’s a Republican shill — mark my words.
  
  We told you what to expect, but you didn’t listen. And that’s OUR fault?
  
  Get real.
  
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Beachmastermax
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:23am
Able died by “The Rock”. He had know sword.

Sorry RP, we can only LIVE by the sword or we will die.

Matthew 24:6 “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things MUST take place, but that is not yet the end.

I will keep my powder dry RP. You can try and create your Utopia.

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firman
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:23am
Glenn is spot on. Very insensitive remarks. Imagine if you lost a loved one who smoked to lung cancer and someone comes up to you and says..”Oh well, he had it comin”. Extremely inappropriate.

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- ChildOfTheKing
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:01pm
  They may have been inappropriate remarks and callous, but Mr. Kyle has absolutely no business taking a PTSD soldier to a firing range, don’t you think. ISN’T THAT THE POINT? It doesn’t matter what adjectives everyone is using to describe the guy. THE POINT IS: you do not take someone who is mentally unbalanced and put a gun in their hands – DUH? Am I the only one here who understands that??
  
  That’s like placing a person inside Hannibal Lecter’s cell (without chains).
  
  WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL YOU PEOPLE??????????
  
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- firman
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:28pm
  Calm down dude..Read my fukkin post. I never said a word about weather it was a good idea or not. I simply said the remarks were inappropriate. Go post your crap somewhere else.
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:10pm
  Political correctness will be the death of us all. If you can’t handle the truth then go play in the sandbox.
  
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- firman
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 3:12pm
  Showing a little respect for the family of a murdered man is being politically correct? I outgrew my sandbox long ago. Apparently you haven’t.
  
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- PoliticiansRCrooks
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 8:25pm
  Some times the truth hurts and it has to be revealed. I agree a 100 percent with Ron Paul and you guys are just a bunch of war mongering losers that lost by picking your Glorified Flip Flopping Lying Romney.
  
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TMDesign
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:21am
Ron Paul’s comments were sloppy to say the least:

http://www.enumclaw.com/editorial-opinion/ron-pauls-sloppy-doctrine/

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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:46am
  Sloppy, yes; malicious, no. On the otherhand, what Glenn Beck did today was outright malicious in both his intent and delivery. Mr. Beck should have kept to the high road in honoring Chris Kyle rather than attacking Ron Paul. Shameful Glenn, an apology is due.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:55am
  I would say both Beck and Paul are wrong on how they went about addressing this. Paul’s statement was obviously sloppy, I don’t think he REALLY believes it. On the other hand, Beck shouldn’t have been as extreme to condemn it. Just say it was sloppy, maybe throw in a few other things, and leave it at that. I don’t think Paul’s tweet was malicious and I don’t think Glenn should have compared it to the WBC.
  
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- AdmiralQ
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:49pm
  The thing is I keep hearing story after story of Paulers attacking other right side people because they are not RIGHT enough and frankly I’m sick of it. Romney was not my first choice but he was better than Obama. When you sacrafice the good for the sake of the pure you end up with evil and thus Obama second term. and yo you Paulers here sying RP was right SHAME ON YOU.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:31pm
  Umm…
  
  You attack “Paulers” because they attack people who are not “pure enough”. Yet you give the Judas Goat Glenn Beck a pass when he attacks Paul because he’s… a devoted Christian? A Constitutionalist? Preaches what he practices, and practices what he preaches?
  
  Hoo, boy…
  
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FIREANDBRIMSTONE
Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:17am
Yawn

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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:21am
  This is “Libertarian” Glenn Beck gearig up to throw RAND PAUL under the bus before 2016.
  Wait and see.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:33am
  3m- I highly doubt it. He likes Rand more than his father mostly because he disagrees with his foreign policy.
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:40am
  @DLV It would be nice if that turned out to be true but three years back, Glenn was all sunshine and lollipops towards Ron Paul to but that surechanged by 2012. I don’t trust him anymore.
  
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- captjack63
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:43am
  Yawn ??? What kind of Hypocritical POS are U ? Have some respect and reverence or keep the yawns to yourself.
  
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- A Hoosier Says
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:46am
  Glenn will probably be voting for Jeb Bush.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 11:53am
  3m- I would love Glenn’s in depth analysis on the change but if I had a guess, it’s because in his researching he found that he disagreed with some of his policies. Again namely, his foreign policy. Iran is not a threat sort of thing. Watch Glenn’s stuff on the Caliphate. Interesting. No one can ignore Iran and while Paul’s idea to just get out of major world affairs is nice, major threats need to be addressed, namely, Iran. You can’t just say “we want to wipe Israel off the map” as “no big deal.”
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:10pm
  @DLV
  
  Glenn is welcomed to disagree all he likes, what I object to, is that non-interventionism is one of the pillars of Libertarianism. If you are as opposed to as Beck clearly is, stop running around calling yourself a Libertarian.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:11pm
  All I got to say is when any of the establishment GOP clowns says something stupid, which is often, Libertarian Beck rushes in apologizing for them. When the Big Kahuna of the Libertarian Party says something stupid; Libertarian Beck rushes in to demonize. Bearer of false witness.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:20pm
  3m- Glenn isn’t a libertarian in the strictest sense. He is a conservative Libertarian as I am. That makes more sense. Glenn has said he is a libertarian but he is actually more of a conservative libertarian by his actions and what he says. Paul tends to be more of a strict libertarian with some conservative elements.
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:33pm
  “Conservative libertarians” believe in non-interventionism.
  
  If you like policing the world, if you think america has that right, if you think the debt we incur from is is just okeydokey, if you’re more afaid of a cavemen on the other side of the world trying to build a bomb than the economic collapse of our nation……you are in the wrong party, friend.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 12:49pm
  3m- I believe all that. But Conservative libertarians tend to be more Republican on FP. I don’t think Iran doing its think is ok. I don’t think we should ignore the middle east. If the middle east attacks Israel and starts WW3 and begins causing severe problems for the U.S. I think we should help our ally etc etc. And dealing with Castro is foolhardy.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 1:46pm
  @DLV:
  
  Because our interventionist foreign policy has been such a wonderful and stabilizing force in the world, and it doesn’t cost us a dime!
  
  Right?
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 4:21pm
  norm- come on you can read better than that. I was saying that we shouldn’t ignore Iran, our friend Israel who will probably need help soon etc. I am for removing our troops out of Asia, Europe where they don’t need to be. Even Afghanistan. although I would hope to make it stable at least before we leave since that would be a waste of lives if it was not. My point was that it would be foolhardy to completely ignore other countries and only use our military very conservatively and iran making nukes and then threatening to use them against allies falls under conservatively. Honestly, it’s like we are living under the black cloud of Sauron and the darkness is falling on the U.S. Soon we will need to be like Rohan and Gondor to prevent ourselves from being annihilated instead of watching.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 5:06pm
  @DLV:
  
  Just say it: You’re spoiling for a war with Iran, which will lead to war with Russia and possibly China.
  
  Because that *is* what you’re saying, whether or not you believe it.
  
  Israel is a strong, nuclear-armed nation, with leadership known to be determined enough to nuke Moscow, if need be. They’d easily out-fight their neighbors, if we weren’t also giving their neighbors twice as much aid, weapons, and so forth, as we supply to Israel. *THAT* is part of our interventionist foreign policy, too, you know. Still want to defend it?
  
  Are *YOU* ready to defend Israel? I’m sure the IDF would love to put you in a uniform and hand you a rifle.
  
  I, personally, think that we cannot help our friends, if we are dead. And we will BE dead, if we don’t stop what we’re doing.
  
  Just because we’re America, doesn’t mean we’re right, or invincible. Our country is ready to fall, because of the abuses of power and corruption WITHIN. We MUST focus HERE FIRST and FOREMOST.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:50pm
  Just say it: You’re spoiling for a war with Iran, which will lead to war with Russia and possibly China.
  
  Because that *is* what you’re saying, whether or not you believe it.”
  
  Ughhh no, what the hell is wrong with you? That’s not even remotely what I said at all. Get a clue. For the last and final time, the iranians will get their nukes and point them at us or Israel and preferably I would like them stopped before they get to that point. But if it does get to that point we are going to need to fight to defend ourselves. Btw, from the way you’re speaking you’re a HORRIBLE friend. I can see it now, if you’re friend is getting beatin up in an alleyway by some lowlife you’ll be like “well I don’t want to get involved because it doesn’t involve me.” That’s more or less what you’re saying about our friend Israel. Iran is getting nukes, the world hates them, rife with anti-semitism when we promised the holocause would not happen again and here you are fine to sit on your chair and let our friends die. Let me be clear, I am not for intervening every time someone goes to war. For instance, if a ton of middle east countries break out in civil war I would not be for putting for boots on the ground, or if a few European countries have a civil war I would not be for getting involved. But here is the difference, the arabs want the Jews annihilated and will stop at nothing to get it done. They also want us gone, so all of this whether you like it or not involves us.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 6:56pm
  Israel is a strong, nuclear-armed nation, with leadership known to be determined enough to nuke Moscow, if need be. They’d easily out-fight their neighbors, if we weren’t also giving their neighbors twice as much aid, weapons, and so forth, as we supply to Israel. *THAT* is part of our interventionist foreign policy, too, you know. Still want to defend it?”
  
  True, but see here is the difference IRan is getting nukes as well, so what then? A nation bent on destroying Israel and I’d be willing to bet the Iranian leadership would accept mass casualties to burn Israel. I don’t care how great your military is, if you don’t have a nuclear defense facility that can vaporize nukes, which Israel does not, you’re in trouble. so Israel very soon will be in trouble. If Israel was just dealing with a low life country that wants to kill them and all Israel had to do is breathe to kill them, then no I would say let them handle it as they did in the 60s. But Iran is not a weak country anymore, they’re getting stronger and they are uniting the middle east with hatred towards Israel. A-jad nad the leadership are mad men trying to bring about the end of the world and think they will do it with the destruction of the Jewish homeland and even ours as well since we are big satan. Honestly, do not pay attention to what they are saying. They’re developing nukes, there have been launches on video, video plays of A-jad wanting to bring down Israel and you’re response is “eh whatever”
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Lastly, if the Israeli people are being faced with extinction and the second holocaust is underway, you’d damn right I’d defend it. God’s chosen people being killed and you think “oh well.” Sick sick sick. I am not a war monger just a realist who sees events unfolding in the world. The jews are the most persecuted people in history. I study history and I see. Just take a look. Babylonian captivity, all the bad things god allowed happen to them for their disobedience. Read the Ot. Roman oppression, Europeans pushing jews out in the middle ages, blaming them for the black death, anti-semitism around the world, the holocaust etc etc etc. Honestly, get a clue. History repeats itself and we are nearing the day probably within 5-10 years where Israel’s right to existence is going to be majorly threatened.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 7:34pm
  Book a flight and volunteer for the IDF. Who knows? I might be right beside you.
  
  But that would be YOUR choice, and MY choice. I do not believe it is a CHOICE a President can make by himself, to send Americans to die in a foreign land, when our own borders and people are not threatened. The Founders wrote about this situation: Recall Washington’s admonition to keep ourselves free of entangling alliances.
  
  Those people were SMART, and they were WISE. They had ALL studied more history, philosophy, and religion than you and I and quite likely the rest of the commenters, staff and ownership of this site put together. We should not presume to undo their work, by arrogating to ourselves the power to step outside the framework they set in place, to keep the War power OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE EXECUTIVE.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:16pm
  Norm- But that would be YOUR choice, and MY choice. I do not believe it is a CHOICE a President can make by himself, to send Americans to die in a foreign land, when our own borders and people are not threatened.”
  It may not be the Prez’s choice, but it’s certainly our responsibility to help allies. Remember the holocaust and never again would it happen. Guess what it’s gonna happen again. By your standards, if Japan never attacked us we should have just let the Nazi’s and the Japanese empire take over the world. Foolish.
  
  “The Founders wrote about this situation: Recall Washington’s admonition to keep ourselves free of entangling alliances.”
  
  Indeed our founders were some of the wisest men that ever lived. However, I think if Washington saw the mass genocide the 20th century would bring and the deaths of Jews and others he would advocate to help. His proclamation of neutrality was because some Americans wanted to get involved in Europe when they were having ******* power contests. When in doubt, Christians must say what would Jesus do? Do you honestly believe Jesus would want us to sit on the sidelines and watch as millions of people die? Please answer this question honestly.
  
  Norm- the key here is discernment. Paul wouldn’t want us to get involved in any foriegn wars warmongers would like to go as often as possible. The common sense solution? discernment. continued…
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 5, 2013 at 10:18pm
  what I mean is if there are millions of people dying by genocide I think it is our god responsibility to step in and help the people. However, if a country is in civil war and are sorting out their problems, we don’t need to get involved. See what I mean? If there is clearly a good and bad side as well, we don’t need to get boots on the ground we can sell them weapons and influence the outcome and what not but again the key is DISCERNMENT. DISCERNMENT DISCERNMENT DISCERNMENT. We need to know when war is justified and our responsibility and when it is a waste of lives and reasources. That is the the most godly approach to war.
  
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- Norm D. Plume
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 12:45am
  I don’t even mind going to war to defend Israel.
  
  I just want it done by the book. I want the Congress, in joint session, to DIRECT the President to execute and complete a War, by the most effective and efficient means possible, which will destroy the enemy and leave them destroyed, and then bring our guys home.
  
  These occupations and nation building are killing US.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 6, 2013 at 1:32am
  norm- Nice so do I. I want congress to declare war and no more of this U.N. sanctioned crap. You and I can agree.
  
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