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The president of the conservative Family Research Council said Wednesday that lifting the long-standing ban on gays in the Boy Scouts doesn’t “pass the parent test.”
The Family Research Council and 41 other organizations ran an ad in USA Today this week warning the scouts it would be “a grave mistake” to overturn the ban and urging them to “stand firm for timeless values.” The Boy Scouts announced Wednesday it had delayed a decision on whether to overturn the ban until May.
“Look, this doesn’t pass the parent test,” Perkins said on CNN. “You’re going to let leaders come in who are attracted to males.”
“I’m a parent, OK, what’s the parent test?” anchor Soledad O’Brien asked.
“I’m a parent, I have three daughters,” Perkins said. “My heterosexual neighbor — man, like him, good guy, got kids of his own — but I’m not going to let him go camping with my girls. Why would I let a man who is attracted to other males go camping with my boys? It doesn’t pass the parent test.”
O’Brien pointed out that pedophiles have sex with children and asked, “Are you saying someone who’s gay is a pedophile?”
“No, I never said that, you said that,” Perkins said. “I’m saying they [the Scouts] are trying to create an environment that is protective of the children….there is a disproportionate number of male on boy pedophilia…but we’ve never said all homosexuals are pedophiles or all pedophiles are homosexual.”
He said it comes down to having Scouts who would be “attracted to members of the same sex.”
“Is that right, for Boy Scouts who are out wanting to learn the basic tenets of scouting to have to worry about whether or not the boy in the tent with them is attracted to them? Is that right?” Perkins asked. “I mean look, these folks that want to do — they are free to set up their own organization. Why do they want to come in and change an organization that’s been around for 100 years?”
“Because it’s discriminatory,” O’Brien replied.
She asked Perkins whether he worries if he’s “on the wrong side of history on this?”
“No I don’t,” Perkins said.
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elosogrande
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:14pmWhy debats O’Brien? Who cares about her opinion? She’s a far-left Socialist at best, who always seems to be trying to marginalize the value system that made this country great.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:20pmShe may be one of the few marxist females who were not sodomized as a child. Hard to tell. Most of them turn into the equivalent of a gay male trapped in a female body.
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YOURSENSEI
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:27pmThis is what you must know:
They become Catholic priests?
It is so.
AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:30pmShe’s dangerous because she hides behind the face of “credible journalism” that CNN affords her. She doesn’t admit her spot is an opinion show because it has to appear as a credible, informed and impartial interview show. This veneer of crediblity is essential to the left’s machinations in the media. The soft minds who tune-in to CNN see it that way also because it’s not spoon fed to them that they’re watching Soledumb’s socialist-soap-box hour. In short, they believe it’s credible journalism because Soledumb wants it to appear that way. This way she can condescend to Perkins through her smirks, gestures and interjections and it’s not questioned. People like Hannity however admit it openly, theirs is an opinion show, he’s a conservative voice and that’s what you’re going to get if you watch his show. And then CNN wonders why it’s ratings are so abysmal.
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love the kids
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:30pmThen after the ban is lifted, they will complain that they are being bullied by the heterosexual boys. How many parents allow non-family boys to babysit their young daughters? Again, why would you want to join a club where you are not wanted.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:39pmThat’s an interesting endless-cycle you bring up.
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YOURSENSEI
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:44pmMr or Ms AVENGERK,
This is what you must know:
CNN is fair and balanced.
It is so.
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SquidVetOhio
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:56pmWow. The Catholic priest thing is played out. I’m not even Catholic.
Fact: most all men that sodomize young boys are atheists.
Fact: most homosexuals are atheists.
I’m not saying one equals the other necessarily but, they do both belong to the same religion.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:56pmLOL! WANG FOR BRAINS, CNN was known as Communist News Network long before Fox ever came along
It IS so.
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:00pmReally YOURSENSEI/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/WANGO/ ad nauseum? “Yes…yes”…Let’s discuss liberal hero, Larry Brinkin shall we? He even had “Larry Brinkin” week named after him in San Francisco for his “heroic” efforts for homosexual “equality”.
He’s currently on charges for conducting online groups encouraging pedophilia and for possessing child porn material. Police found laptops, computers, videos, and storage media in Brinkin’s home, where they found images on them that show children as young as 1 year old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men.
Brinkin adheres to the liberal philosophy which declares that there is no discernable standard for right or wrong. That human decency is merely a passe notion that is a decision from personal conscience, not society or outdated religious criteria.
In short..the latest liberal catch-cry “anything goes” and “experimenting”.
Does this measure up to your hatred of catholicism WANGO/HORSIE/MONICNE/MOST INTERESTING TROLL? Or is it like yesterday when you declared that a father of a child from Sandy Hook defending the second amendment is “dancing on the grave of his child” while your liberal mouthpieces call them “little martyrs”. Does Brinkin get a pass from you because of your own latent homosexual fantasies and he also belongs to a liberal protected class?
Is not so?
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:02pm@Squidvet
I’m sure you will supply us with citations and links to your “facts”, right? You probably just forgot to include them.
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Woggie
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:16pmI don’t pay attention to Ms. O’Brien’s views, but I would guess she wants tougher gun controls on law abiding gun owners under the guise of protecting our children. OK. Obviously, the law abiding gun owners are not a threat other than a miniscule percentage. But that miniscule percentage is enough to discriminate against everyone to “protect” our children. Now, I would tend to agree that the majority of gay men wanting to be scout leaders would keep away from the boys, BUT!, I would say that I’m sure there is a small percentage that would want to engage sexually with a young boy. Is this small percentage not enough to keep all gay men out of a situation where they can moleste a young boy?
Come on Ms. O’Brien and the other Libs, you can’t have it both ways!
Is it discriminatory? No. We are protecting our minor children from a possible threat. This is what responsible parents do. I have two boys in scouting, if the BSA lets gays into the scouts, I will immediatly take both of them out. I will explain to them why they can no longer go and that I am acting as a responsible parent to protect them.
God Bless the USA!
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whyvote
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:16pmYOURSENSEI
This is what you must know
Using your mugshot as an Avatar is not wise
It is so
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:59pmWHYVOTE…that’s actually a picture of Ted Nugent that the troll YOURSENSEI uses on occasions.
I guess it’s his damaged psyche’s way of mocking and insulting prominent libertarian and conservative voices by using a picture of the same person as his own avatar.
His other screennames have different avatars it really depends who he’s logged in as at any given time.
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3-Blue
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:01pmYou’re absolutely right Woggie. If the Boy Scouts give in to pressure and go against their core values like so many moral wimps we see these days, the organization is over. I think the vast majority of responsible parents like yourself will simply exit the group and it will be forever after known as simply a *** organization- like the Catholic priesthood. They might as well just hang out at the YMCA after that. They can pitch their tents by the pool and bring their canoes and squaw outfits. And by the way, *** is an English slang word for cigarette. It derives from ******, which is slang for a chunk of firewood or a bundle of sticks. :)
I mean, we’re talking about the mental and physical health of our children which could be damaged for life. One does not take risks with that. When their safety comes into the equation all PC goes out the door where it should be anyway. I salute you as a good parent.
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Ben__Franklin
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:02pmI am sure Miz O’Brien would love to go on some Girl Scout “outings” with our daughters.
I do not believe they got 1.4 Million parents of “Boy Scouts” to sign those petitions. No father is going to want a male attracted to males going on camping trips with his boy(s). I believe they got 1.4 Million parents signatures without a clue.
Homosexuals can start their own Scout Club and exclude all heterosexual males and frankly that would not hurt my feelings to be discriminated against.
If you are gay and you just gotta join Scouts, keep it to yourself.
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3-Blue
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:14pmLoL….. The Blaze censored my post. The word they asterisked out rhymes with rag. Do ya ever get tired of walking on PC egg shells? What a cowardly society we have become…
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Kregneva
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:17pmWHYVOTE…that’s actually a picture of AVENGERK that the troll SQUIDVETOHIO uses on occasions.
I guess it’s his damaged psyche’s way of mocking and insulting prominent libertarian and conservative voices by using a picture of the same person as his own avatar.
The AvengerK screennames have no Avatars because that depends on their Aussie inability to use modern USA technology.
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Dismayed Veteran
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:22pmO’Brien has 2 daughters and 2 sons. I wonder what she would say if she discovered the really nice man who led the scout troop had sodomized her sons on a regular basis?
I guess it would be okay after all the scouts shouldn’t discriminate.
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venrooy
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:45pmBoy Scouts are discriminatory by their very nature, it’s in their name. Why are girls NOT allowed to be boy scouts? It has to do with sexual orientation, not just their gender.
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Female
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:56pmDiscrimatory? Discrimatory?
I have the right to discriminate against Leacherous men and Mrs. Robinson (whether heter or ****) types being in a leadership position and spending unsupervised by me; time with my children and promoting sexually inappropriate lifestyles forth rightly or covertly by living them. I don’t want the shacker-uppers; the adulterers, porn indulgers, slutty dressed, prostitutes, child molesters, homos, or beastialites. These “prejudices of mine” are all based on their choices, which make them all unfit to be an influence or role model as a scout master or teacher or any “adult” in a position to influence or interact with my children. I know they encourage and enforce all sexual behaviors as feel good and unquestionably wonderful or consequence free: as acceptable in our “pubic” schools; but that is one of the reasons I homeschool.
Parenting? Parenting?
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SendTheMeteors
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:56pmAren’t there already gays in Boy Scouts? So what’s going to change if they admit it?
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Walkabout
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:19pmThe_Doors_Of_Perception
Found nothing in Gallup. I might try Pew later. A web search pulled up people in forums taking about it, but no polls (at least on the 1st page).
So that leaves what you see. Judging from gay blogs like the one Joe Jervis & comments by self professed LGBT posting here one would count that the majority of gays were atheist.
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erock33
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:26pmHow do individuals honestly reconcile with themselves that they are good people when they advocate corporations pull funding from a very moral, upright, good intentioned program like the Boy Scouts and turn around and advocate for the right to kill unborn children as a form of birth control? We are living in a very unique and twisted time. Right is wrong and wrong is right.
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Walkabout
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:35pmSendTheMeteors
Aren’t there already gays in Boy Scouts? So what’s going to change if they admit it?
***
Affirming the gay lifestyle choice as healthy / sane which it is not.
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nesmond
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:42pmWhat the kcuf happened to this country? There is actually a debate on whether we should allow this in the B.S.A.? Who cares if it’s on the wrong side of history? As the man said, would it be acceptable for a straight man to camp out with young girls? The answer is NO! Even after a thorough background check, no one would allow a straight man to camp with young girls, yet it’s fine for a gay man to camp out with young boys? Who, in the name of all that is holy, would even consider this? We are doomed!
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zorro
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:50pmI wonder if Soledad asks Democrats on her show if they feel they were “on the wrong side of history” when they voted against people like her (or me) to drink out of the same water fountain as whites.
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Sosorryforyou
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:27pm@ZORRO
Dems were absolutely on “the wrong side of history” to deny the African American community the same rights as the White community. MOST Democrats would have no problem admitting to their part in this. It was as wrong then to discriminate against someone because of their race as it is now to discriminate against someone because of their sexual preference.
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Sobama n Gommorah
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:40pmNotice how she had to ask what a parent test is, yet she’s a parent? Typical leftist libbie has to parent by consensus. Someone needs to call Child Protective Service on her a$$
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Sobama n Gommorah
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:43pmNotice how she had to ask what the parent test is? Typical leftist libbie pig, has to parent by concensus. Someone should report her sorry a$$ to Child Protective Service, let her elitist ass explain why she thinks it’s ok to put children at risk
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READRIGHTHERE
Feb. 6, 2013 at 9:40pm@sosorryforyou,
Discrimination due to a gene governing skin pigmentation is not the same as discrimination against a behavioral choice. Please don’t degrade the suffering of African Americans at the hands of bigoted morons in the social majority by equating their triumphs over evil with Homosexuals obtaining normal status in society by allowing their unfettered access to teenage boys on camp outs! Shame on you.
Sexual preference is a choice (Prefer is a verb). If you would like to posit that a homosexual man has no choice but to be attracted to other males, I will take that statement and ask how as a parent can I trust a man, who has no control over his behavioral choices, to “camp” with my sons?
Do you honestly believe that a Male human possessing a gene predisposing him to be sexually attracted to males has a switch that only allows his impulse when a potential target has reached the magical biological age of 18, making his behavior acceptable?
Do you think or just regurgitate?
Just as the Girl Scouts should not allow a Heterosexual man to go on camp outs with teenage girls, the Boy Scouts should maintain their ban on Homosexual men being intimately connected to and associating with teenage boys. Duh. It really is that simple, and you really are that daft, or at least genetically predisposed to dereliction of the frontal lobe.
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horseman43
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:22pm“….there is a disproportionate number of male on boy pedophilia…but we’ve never said all homosexuals are pedophiles or all pedophiles are homosexual.”
That’s probably accurate for the most part, if a person wanted to split hairs, but homosexuals are so desperate for male partners they’ll try by hook or crook to get anybody they can.
Homosexual priests entered the priesthood in order to be able to flim flam and seduce young boys who would be far easier to manipulate than a grown man. They want to finagle their way into the Boy Scouts for the same reason.
But there are VERY FEW homosexuals who are not pedophiles. And there are exactly ZERO homosexuals who are not afflicted with a mental disorder.
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horseman43
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:43pmSendTheMeteors
Posted on February 6, 2013 at 2:56pm
“Aren’t there already gays in Boy Scouts? So what’s going to change if they admit it?”
Where is your supporting info to show there are homosexuals right now in the Boy Scouts? You always make statements as if they are facts, but you never give any kind of info that can be checked to verify what you say is true.
Homosexuals can’t function on a day to day basis without revealing their illness and as soon as they’re found out they’re purged as they should be. The Boy Scouts have ousted both scoutmasters and young scouts for revealing their proclivities for those of the same sex.
Quite frankly I’m VERY surprised that many of them haven’t been killed already.
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Feb. 7, 2013 at 8:47am@Walkabout
Ok, well at least everyone knows now that they are just biased assumptions and not “facts”.
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gizmo01
Feb. 7, 2013 at 3:07pmO’Brien is an IDIOT!! If she thinks a gay person will not prey on those kids she is stupid. I don’t care what they come back with, and I am sure they will. Of course they will deny it. Otherwise just think of the potential lawsuits. I don’t think she has any children, but, if so she is putting them in terrible peril.
Parents, wake up!! This movement is like a cancer going all over the world. God is not pleased. He will bring down judgment on all of us for not taking a stand against this sin. (His words not mine)
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Ghandi was a Republican
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:14pmI’m just curious. If they had a “Gay scouts of America” would they be thrilled to see a heterosexual scout master demanding his way in? Would they? Would Sole-dead o’brien stand up for him?
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usedCZARsalesman
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:49pmGHANDI…you should know by now that only white, HETEROsexual males can discriminate against people! If you are a member of a “minority” (including women, even though they are a majority) you are allowed to alienate and ostracize anyone you want without repercussion. This had been a known fact since the creation of amazingly racist/discriminatory organizations like the NAACP, congressional black caucus, BET television, CAIR, GLADD, ect. We all know you could NEVER get away with having a “straight, white guy only” group…it would be sued out of existence ASAP
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zapparules
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:52pmYes.
Because to do otherwise would be discriminatory.
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term limits for congress
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:13pmNot allowing gay scout leaders is a preventative measure, not a discriminatory act. Every act of molestation cannot be prevented, but it does not make sense to purposefully increase the risk.
If it is good, if it is American, it must be destroyed.
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:37pmBut Soledumb doesn’t get it. You have to get inside her mind to understand what she believes. As a liberal, the feelings and intentions of putting homosexuals in the boyscouts supercede the realities. Oh she gleefully curses catholic priests,who because of their proximity, influence and sequestration with children have molested them routinely. But railing against Christians is important to liberals like Soledumb. That doesnt’ count.
No..you have to understand the liberal mind. Homosexuals are a protected class. They are perceived by liberals as the best of us. They are better than the rest of the 98% of the population. They are to be adored, coddled and elevated above the rest of us.
The synapses in Soledumb’s liberal brain don’t fire up when it’s put to her that if all these other situations where homosexual pedophiles can have access to children exist, why create one more of those situations? No..these are homosexuals and they’re the best of us. They simply cannot behave that way in Soledumb’s mind.
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cessna152
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:13pmIf that’s the case…Solidad, then men should be able to take the girl scouts out for a weekend. Wait, how about on High School class trips, women teachers are able to room with young adult men. There would never be any concerns with that…right?
Hey Solidad, maybe it’ll be okay if several super models take care of your husband while your traveling on the weekends..okay?
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GuruMeditation
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:46pmHahahahaa.
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SREGN
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:03pmIn all reality, Soul-is-dead O’Brien would be the first one to object to her son going camping with a gay scout-master. She’s a lying marxist hippocrate.
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Uechi
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:11pmWhy do we have a Marxist bimbo discussing the Boy Scouts? The least they could do is put out a male Marxist hack to defend gays in the BSA. It’s a private organization they can choose to exclude whom they want. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this. If the BSA now wants **** adult scout leaders and scouts that is there right and it is the right of parents to take their kids out of the organization.In my opinion everything homosexuals and athesists touch with their agendas turns to scat.
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redonred
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:07pmI thought the boy scouts would be cool for my boys. I was a brownie. Our local boy scouts has a women as the leader. I’m still looking for something. I will not let them join any local sports because they get a trophy just for showing up. Leave things alone. Maybe a new club should be started. Men and boys only and Women and girls only. The only clubs! I do not care nor do I want to know what you or anyone else does behind closed doors, back seats or any other place.
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spirited
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:07pm“Discriminatory”
>~~~~~~~~~~~> Really?
With that way of thinking:
There should not be a Boys Scouts; as it is “discriminatory” to girls and adults.
Since homosexuality is alleged to be from birth; not learned or chosen, children know they are gay. Would it not be ‘normal’ to have a Gay Scouts organization? All gay; kids and leaders.
>Problem solved.
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GodsLaw
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:24pmThere are not enough homosexuals to start their own club. They make up only approx. 1% to 3% of the entire population. These leftists claim to stand for “democracy”, but it is not democracy when those few men who like to play with another man’s PP dictate to the overwhelming majority of everyone else. These are fathers who wouldn’t let any “strange” man (or woman), be alone their sons in the woods for days whether the strange man was homosexual or not.
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Satellite309
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:04pm********IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR OBAMA SUPPORTERS******
TURN IN YOUR WEAPONS TO YOUR LOCAL POLICE STATIONS . Please surrender all your weapons, guns, rifles, pistols, etc. to your local police.
Supporting your President is very important to you. You certainly would be pleasing him if you surrendered all your weapons.
Unconfirmed report :
I am still getting up-to-the-minute info on this, but it looks like for every Obama supporter who surrenders their guns, they will get $500 WORTH OF FOODSTAMPS.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
What Obama supporter cannot get excited about that!!!
I still cannot confirm this, but we’ll have to assume that this is true until someone like Harry Reid says it isn’t. Just call or e-mail the White House or Harry Reid to confirm. NOTE: this offer is for Obama supporters only…everybody else please keep your weapons for the upcoming civil war. You’ll need them. Thank you
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jorskippy
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:23pmThat is a good one….hadn’t thought of it…LOL
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kat747
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:43pmGreat words of advice.
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:17pmYou just let your mask slip again MONICNE..I mean…YOURSENSEI.
And projecting your own troubled psyche onto me isnt’ really helping you very much now is it sport?
I mean let’s be candid here….your “YOURSENSEI” personality here believes it’s “forced” by others (I laugh everytime at that one..”forced”) to keep creating new names for itself.
Your “MONICNE” personality has created “THE MOST INTERESTING TROLL IN THE WORLD” screeenname for itself which as “YOURSENSEI” you accidently began using it’s “I don’t always.. but when I do” schtick (similar to you Asian stereotype “it is so” banal routine on display here).
So in light of all this hiding and trickery you participate in and being “forced” to create new names for yourself-along with your ill-founded elitist posturings- it’s safe to say that… buddy…you’re a basket case.
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usnlfd
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:43pmSatellite I think you are seeing into the future. Guns for Foodstamps hmmmm…kinda sounds like Cash for Clunkers; another successful and brilliant program brought to us by the mind Barry Obama.
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FunToBeHere
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:04pmThe last thing that I want is for a Sodomite to be mentoring my son!
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Southerner01
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:13pmAccording to NAMBLA, they have to start molesting them young, before they figure out that they like girls.
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Gonzo
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:53pmHard to believe we’re even discussing it to me.
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Sobama n Gommorah
Feb. 6, 2013 at 4:46pmI too would not let yoursensai mentor my child
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ThePirateRagnar
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:04pmWhere do these people come from? Is her friggin head in the sand. Does she ever read about some priests and alter boys? Are all priests pedifiles? Nope, but they exist. DID she see the story on Jerry Sandusky? Are all coaches child molesters? No, but they do exist.
Has she ever heard of the NAACP? Or Ms. Black America? Or the United ***** College Fund? The BET awards? I mean, aren’t they discriminating?
Gays can have the Gay Scouts if they want. Let’s see how their membership grows. All gay people can let their children join. And they are free to not allow straight people’s kids if they want and we promise not to be offended. Please feel free to discriminate against me because I’m normal. I won’t get upset. My sons will go to Boy Scouts and your sons can go to Gay Scouts and all will be fine in the world.
I’m tired of hearing about this weak ass liberal wench’s opinion. She is truely stupid.
-The Pirate Ragnar
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:22pmIt’s not about reality for liberals. It’s about feelings and intentions. Little Soledumb believes -like every liberal does- that we should be living in a utopian society where it’s one big group hug and that the compulsions of disorders like homosexuality don’t really exist. She doesn’t want to acknowledge the risks of putting homosexual men alone with adolscent and vulnerable boys in isolation for prolonged periods of time. She doesn’t want to acknowledge that putting homosexual boys in tents with normal boys will cause problems. This doesn’t conform to Soledumb’s idea of utopia.
Just look at the condescension she projects. The exaggerated gestures, the smirks. This wasn’t a journalist you were watching, this was a mouthpiece for liberalism ridiculing someone she believes is her moral and intellectual lesser. Look at the question she poses..”do you believe you’re on the wrong side of history”. It speaks volumes as to her mindset. Does she believe she’s on the wrong side of reality? Heck no….sequestered priests, coaches, teachers who molested and all had access to children away from their parents..but Soledumb believes this won’t take place with the Boy Scouts. You must also remember that Soledumb adheres to the current liberal fantasy that homosexuals are the best of us. That they’re actually better than heterosexuals. They’re a protected class to be adored and coddled at all costs. Hence..what could go wrong?
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Shellback
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:45pmCan you imagine the outrage if some some boy gets molested? And somehow it will be blamed on the troup for not taking the proper precautions. To this date, people like her and the news agencies they work for VILIFY the Catholic church and priests in general. You are right about the orgs such as BET, NAACP, the Black Caucus, and etc. Someone needs to press her on that point of discrimination.
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naughtycal
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:45pmexactly.
The boys scout have a rules and standards that must be met to qualify. And those qualification means certain groups of people can be in the boy scouts….like girls and boys who want to be girls.
Maybe parents of boys should file suits to allow their boys to be in the girl scout. And when the surge in young pregnancies rise they canthen blame the GSA and sue them for every single dime.
Which is what will happen when big gay al touches a little boy…THE END OF THE BOY SCOUTS.
So why not avoid this and let gays start their own scouts, after all the boys scouts aren’t trying to get gays into the scout so why should the scout be forced to change.
If I’m not wearing shoes or a shirt businesses can refuse to serve me i’m forced to meet their criteria not the other way around.
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YOURSENSEI
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:47pmMr or Ms AVENGERK,
This is what you must know:
Tell us about your abuse episode. You’re so close. And you’re obviously crying out for some sense of relief. Justice. Revenge? Were you victim or victimizer? Go ahead. Tell us.
It is so.
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AvengerK
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:50pmLOL…”tell us” YOURSENSEI/MONICNE/MOST INTERESTING TROLL/ad nauseum? “Us” in your case is all your online personalities that manifest at the Blaze. You know..the ones you were “forced” (LOL) to create. Is not so?
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john vincent
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:03pm“Doesn’t pass the parent test…”
That is about the simplest, strongest, and only point that needs made. Good job sir, of reducing Ms Obrien to dust and ashes. “Be prepared’ Soledad, for common folks despise you
If the leftists brainless desire their own language and culture, may I suggest ‘Fantasy Island?’
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frust@ted
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:03pmI have no issues with the Boy Scouts not allowing homosexuals in scouts, now that the Boy Scouts receive no funding from the Federal govmt. If they start to recieve funding from the US Govmt, I will have a problem with it.
Private group they should be able to decide what is appropritate and what isn’t, if you don’t like it don’t let your son join the boy scouts.
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LibertyGoddess
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:00pmSo…money trumps common sense with you? What part of men don’t take little girls camping and gays don’t take whoever they are attracted to camping you don’t understand? If you think the federal government has some morality book, let’s see it. It doesn’t and only the godless will find solace in their morality.
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frust@ted
Feb. 6, 2013 at 5:39pmLet me explain myself.
Again I have no problem with a private organization not allowing homosexuals to be a leader in their organization. As of 2005 the Boy Scouts no longer receive federal funding, and i think that is a good thing.
I’m trying to be consistent in my beleifs, just like I don’t beleive conservatives should have their tax dollars used to fund planned parenthood or stem cell research, i don’t think that a homosexual should be forced to have their tax dollars go to an organization that will not let them be a part of it.
Do you beleive you tax dollars should go to Planned Parenthood?
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S-O-B-E-R
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:01pmI thought they fired her arse. No, I would not want a male scout leader to go camping with my daughter and no I am not calling him a pedophile.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:06pmCNN canceled her show. She is still with them, unfortunately.
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MCON29
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:00pmIt is a private organization. They can do what they want. Including choosing who can be affiliated. A white congressman can not join the Black Caucaus (and thats federal government). End of discussion.
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frust@ted
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:04pmThat is why there is such a fight on wether homosexuality is something you are born with or a choice.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:07pmMCON29, Excellent point, but expect ENCINOM to show and scream like a little girl.
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K-Rae
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:40pmCompletely agree with you. This is just another cry for special treatment.
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Rowgue
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:00pm“On the wrong side of history”.
That is such a nonsensical and overused piece of rhetoric. It instantly brands whoever uses it as a moron. Of course any conservative is going to be on the wrong side of history. Because it’s liberals that will write it.
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BrutalTruth
Feb. 6, 2013 at 8:03pmIt’s the code words for “go with the crowd”. How pathetic people like O’Brien are.
In order to believe homosexuality is not a choice, you need to suspend the fact that your sexuality, by it’s very purpose is to procreate. Those that can’t voice disapproval of the filthy act of sodomy, are the same as O’Brien, who are afraid to go against the crowd.
Doesn’t it actually make you laugh, when you think back to your mother asking if a bunch of people jumped off a bridge, would you do so to? These people are lemmings.
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WillG
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:00pmDiscriminatory? I don’t believe so. Anyone comfortable with a Homosexual around young boys has a screw loose. Why don’t the Homosexuals form their own little group? They are not asking for equal rights they want special rights.
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Walkabout
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:59amHomosexuals tell us that hetero men and not gay men molest young boys. They say it is the lack of secondary sex characteristics, hair, deeper voice etc that reminds them of females.
How do they explain the Boy Scout Master who molested young boys & then kept molesting them well after puberty?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Stocks
Bisexual Boy Scout Master had his way with a whole troop.
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frust@ted
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:06pmI think Homosexuality and molestation are 2 different things, Adult men molest little Girls as well.
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spirited
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:12pmSince homosexuality is not learned nor chosen,
>wouldn’t that suggest that all those boys were born homesexual?
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kaydeebeau
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:21pmWhlle not all homosexuals are pedophiles the majority of pedophiles are homosexuals….as in sex with young members of the same gender = homosexual.with an age qualification perhaps Soledad should look up the roots of the word homosexual?
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Walkabout
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:20pmfrust@ted
- There is more than 1 cause of homosexuality.
- I brought this point up because homosexuals claim that no way in heII are they attracted to boys & to say so is a smear. Apparently some are. The question is are they attracted at a greater rate? The Boy Scout Master certainly was not hetero. On the Kinsey sliding scale (if you beleive that) he was more homosexual than hetero.
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Walkabout
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:27pmspirited
Since homosexuality is not learned nor chosen,
>wouldn’t that suggest that all those boys were born homesexual?
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Are you sure about your first assertion that you put out there as fact? Economists have shown that homosexual activity goes up when times are bad. So given the Obama economy we should have a bumper crop of homosexual activity & an increase in disease.
Watch the series REDRUM. You probably won’t. You will probably as that the Investigation ID pulls the show. So a kid molested at age 5, finally grows a pair (hint that means hits puberty) & as a teenager pulls a pistol on his Boy Scout Leader & frog marches him over to his house so that the Leader can give a confession to the boys mother, most people would think that he did not enjoyed being groomed , psychologically manipulated by his bisexual, homosexual or whatever his molester was.
Now you might claim the little boys of the boy scout troop seduced their Boy Scout Leader & not that he manipulated & threatened him. But then I would say you have an agenda.
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Rogue
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:59amO’Brien, if I’m not mistaken, has an 11year old girl, and a 13 yo girl. He should have asked if her girls were in girl scouts, and had a 40 year old MALE den mother, would she let them go camping in the woods with him, unsupervised?
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toiletclogga
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:06pmHer girls are in the “young commies of America!” They don’t allow any of that homosexual talk.
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spirited
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:18pmThe IIFGDIIMBNC
>If It Feels Good, Do It; It Must Be Natural Club.
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strawberry411a
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:59amIf the intent of the left is to destroy all culture, traditions and historic organizations specific to this country, then they are doing a great job. So what do they do once they have infiltrated and destroyed their targets?
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RaydocX
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:58ami agree, that is the big hurdle….
i also believe it should not be a hurdle.
all of us know gays… most are just like you and i.
pretending otherwise is behaving in a prejudicial manner based upon our bias.
no one is free of bias. recognizing it and addressing it avoid prejudicial behavior.
clearly, many parents have the gay rights advocates and the over the top parade goers in mind when the subject is raised… and i would argue those people should NOT be leading our kids, whether straight or gay.
but having a gay scout leader interested in teaching about wilderness skills and improving kids social interactions and developing a network of friends would be preferable to a socialist or a staunch literal biblical believer, either of whom would try to indoctrinate the kids with their own bias.
if you still believe most homosexuals ‘choose’ that lifestyl, stop and think about that… who would choose a lifestyle that triggers such hateful, spiteful, baseless attacks over their attempts to find love and happiness?!
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ThePirateRagnar
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:09pmThey have to fit in somewhere right RAY? Forgive us Christians for taking the Bible literal.
Explain this away RAY:
Romans 1
(26) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (27) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
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The_Jerk
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:12pmYou’ve missed the point. I don’t want a thirty, or forty, something male, interested in teaching wilderness skills and improving kids social interactions and developing a network of friends, camping with my daughter. It’s not prejudice. It’s not bigoted. It’s called avoiding the temptation. It’s called avoiding the opportunity. Most of us call it commonsense.
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The_Jerk
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:24pmThePirateRagnar, who was God talking about? Hint, they were Jewish. Things never change:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
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Owt_Raged
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:27pmI choose to be conservative. I choose to believe in and honor God. Look at the grief and torment I am put through by the so called tolerant left? Don’t you think that it would be easier for me to just go along with the left and dismiss common sense, and denounce God?
Your argument is baseless and weak.
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Atrain1966
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:44pmJerk : Then how come the letter was written to the Romans
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S-O-B-E-R
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:47pmTo OWT_RAGED: Beautiful. I have been through enough of this life to know that this is such BS. Many people choose homosexuality for a variety of reasons, that’s right, choose. Do I believe some feel they were born that way? Of course. Do I believe that those that choose do so for revenge, shock value, perversion, spiritual illness, confusion, experimentation, rebelllion et cetera? Absolutely.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:07pmDAS_JERK, LOL, leave it to you to even blame homosexuality on the Jews. I suppose there really are no homosexuals in Iran.
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RaydocX
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:30pm@Pirate.
it’s easy to explain… the bible is a collection of the works of MAN.
just like there have been changes in the Catholic church based on the attitudes of Man (marriage was once accepted… fish only on every Friday was once the rule), the bible is MAN’s description of the divine.
the teachings are predominantly fair and just… taking any verse by itself can lead one astray.
the OVERWHELMING message of Christ was of love and forgiveness.
so long as the gay neighbor is not hitting on me or being flagrant about his/ her sexuality, it’s his business… and i hope he/ she is of faith, because God is accepting of us all, as we’re made in His image (and if it’s the Casanova straight lover to the other side, i’m as grossed out by his parade of conquests).
Taking the bible literally is a great place to run into problems… like that pesky 7 day thing… or the woman obey the man thing… Ruth ‘uncovered the feet’ and we’re supposed to understand that meant they had sex… wait, that’s sex out of wed lock… condoned by the bible.
i don’t have to explain the bible… The teaching is of Love and Forgiveness. The mistakes are in our interpretations and in the organizations we’ve built around faith.
Evolution Can occur in a faith based mind set. It’s not either or, but both. And to pretend homosexuality is sinful is rather a judgement i believe that is beyond our position to make.
(And no, I’m not, thank you very much)
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RaydocX
Feb. 6, 2013 at 1:37pm@Sober & @Out…
each of you knew kids growing up who were… flippy.
They stood out, sometimes despite best efforts otherwise, because they weren’t like us ‘normal’ folk.
Arguing that it’s just a choice is closed minded at best.
As to our persecution for our Faith (yep, that’s right), it isn’t impacting you getting a job… or a house… or realizing the same family benefits of married folks (note i don’t say ‘marriage’ though the government DOES NOT protect marriage)… just being able to sit with a loved one who’s sick in the hospital.
So yes, I agree that those of Faith are under attack… Not by homosexuals, but by agnostics, and atheists and secularists who mistakenly take the laws of this nation and twist ‘no government sponsored’ religion into ‘no religion.’
Homosexuals are under personal attack for the way they feel about others. Not a very Christian attitude.
@Jerk, you are correct… I would not want my son camping alone with a homosexual scout master… not that he means to do bad things or would do bad things, and not that he’d ‘infect’ my son… Sadly, there are perverts out there hiding among us who do prey on kids… Jerry Sandusky doesn’t have ‘child molester’ on his forehead. So the camp outs I was on as a kiddo weren’t just one scout leader… It was never fewer than 3, and usually there were a couple parent helpers, too. Safety in numbers… but not exclusive of leaders based on sexual mores.
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S-O-B-E-R
Feb. 6, 2013 at 7:59pmRaydocx; I thought I made it clear that I believe there are some homosexual people who were born that way and that there is no choice for them. The point I was trying to make is that many are not and it is a choice. Believe me and my experience with this. And, my experience is far from knowing a few kids growing up who were “flippy” did you say? Far from. Throughout my life I have lived a thousand lives that I have chosen, and any sane person would have used your argument that there’s no way I would have chosen it if I didn’t have to. I know terrible, terrible stories of the discrimination of which you speak and I do not condone it. I have a problem with giving any group special designation thereby infringing on my rights because it is perceived that I have now said or done something that is no longer acceptable by this “special” group of people.
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KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:56amSolidad, Why didnt you abort your children?
When the Black Panthers have a GAY, WHITE, JEWISH leader then we will talk.
When the Black Caucus is renamed the ALL COLORS CAUCUS then we will talk.
When Solidad loses her show then we will cheer!
Racist, evil creature, her and Toure. Racist, Racist, Racist.
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Oldmantex
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:03pm@ Kill – this is very close to what I was going to post. If it is discriminatory, then all minority groups must be disbanded immediately. Because those groups ACTUALLY discriminate based on RACE something people cant change.
Until that happens, scouts need to stay put. Besides, there are scouting groups of all race and religion. They only keep out the gays and only then the ones that want to flaunt it. Look we just saw 1.4 million gay scouts send in a petition. So technically by their own admission they are allowed in.
They just cant flaunt it, or make people ACCEPT it. And that is their true goal…..
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erik_ruddock
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:10pmyes but i dont think there area ny white people trying to join the black panthers or the the black cacaus, but the boy scouts is supposed to be for everyone.
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ThePirateRagnar
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:15pm@ Old,
Not true. We have no idea where the names came from on the petition. I believe they were simply people in support of gays in the scouts, not a petition of scouts themselves.
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Oldmantex
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:45pm@ The pirate – Yea I worded that wrong, probably not all gay, but the ex-scouts that delivered them are gay. So the points stands, gays are allowed in if they can keep what they do in private to themselves. But that has never been the objective…..It is always about acceptance with these people. Sad really something they can never achieve.
Here is a quote about who delivered the signatures:
On Monday, former gay den leader Jennifer Tyrrell, gay Eagle Scout Will Oliver, gay former Scoutmaster Greg Bourke, and Eric Andresen, father of a gay Scout denied his Eagle Scout award, will deliver 1.4 million signatures to the Boy Scouts of America’s headquarters in Irving, signatures that urge the Scouts to drop its gay ban.
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KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:37pmIm a Cub Scout Leader, this has nothing to do with what we teach the boys, we teach them teamwork, skills a young boy needs like when we were kids. To have fun and work together.
Im not trying to influence them religously, or anything that is the responsibilty of the parents. Respect of others regardless of who they are is as far as I go. I try to be another male figure hopefully they can look up to. This Social Experiment is nothing I will push.
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DougHuffman
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:56amSo, ya think Soledad walks the walk, or is all talk? Does she encourage shooting-skeet or some other prevention of conception?
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The_Jerk
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:53amIt is the downward spiral of a society learning it’s values from Hollywood. It’s history repeating itself. It’s the human decline to the animal kingdom.
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Gonzo
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:33pmA+ Jerk.
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Atrain1966
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:49pmExactly Right
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toiletclogga
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:53amI do not want my male child to be feminized by the homosexual scout leader who will in no doubt of my own be inclined to promote his deviant sexual lifestyle unto my child. So to my child, NO SCOUTS FOR YOU!
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erik_ruddock
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:08pmare you kidding me? the reason the left can make fun of us and make us look stupid is because of people like you and him.
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toiletclogga
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:27pmNo, I’m not kidding you. Keep your homosexual agenda to yourself, and leave the kids out of it. Most groups are exclusive, and they have the right to determine who their leaders are.
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colascguy
Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:37pm@erik_ruddock there is a difference between accept and condone. Would you accept women leaders going camping with teen boys or men going camping with teen girls. We can all accept that an individual has a right to live life freely.
I will say that the logical extension of this change if allowed would be that parents will not be allowed to ask if a leader is gay as it would be considered discrimination.
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usedCZARsalesman
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:09pmActually ERIC, tens of millions of people across the country feel the EXACT same way…this very article itself is PROOF of the accuracy of TOILETGLOGGA’s (that name kills me) statement. If we already see that these gay advocates spend ALL DAY, EVERYDAY trying to forcefeed acceptance to our culture, what in the world makes you believe that a gay scout master wouldn’t do the same?
To be clear, we aren’t talking about molestation, we are talking about values. I don’t want ANYONE “preaching” to my kids that something I think is deviant and wrong is actually perfectly normal. You think the convo won’t come up??? Think about all the overly flamboyant, “look at me” gays running around, you don’t think a 9 yr old kid might ask a few questions about why he is acting so “strange”?
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henryKnox
Feb. 6, 2013 at 2:26pmIf the Boy Scouts change their rules then I think it would be a good decision to form a new organization for heterosexual Boy Scouts. Let the Homosexual Boy Scouts do it whatever way they choose and let’s have freedom of choice.
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Welcome Black Carter
Feb. 6, 2013 at 3:22pmJust ban gays.
Parent test? They don’t even pass the smell test.
1-2% of the population… the tail is wagging the dog here.
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mrja
Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:52amSo long, Soledad http://youtu.be/27_OVFOqbJg
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