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Pat Robertson Wonders: Would Allowing Gays in the Boy Scouts Lead to ‘Predators’ and ‘Pedophiles Who Would Come in as Scoutmasters’?

There’s no doubt that religious broadcaster Pat Robertson has a history of making eyebrow-raising comments. From announcing his belief that atheists are “miserable grinches” to sharing his concerns over adopting foreign children, he’s spawned no shortage of controversy. This week, on his show, “The 700 Club,” Robertson, again, tackled a highly-contentious issue, making statements about gays and the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) that instantly led to intense head-scratching – and furor.

As TheBlaze reported earlier this week, the BSA is currently embroiled in national controversy surrounding the group’s controversial ban on gay members and leaders. Before it was announced that the organization is planning to delay its decision on whether to overturn the ban, Robertson weighed in, noting that the BSA has a profound history of helping young men in America.

While he encouraged the organization to make the decision it deems most appropriate, some of his words led to angst — particularly a question he asked about “predators” and “pedophiles.”

“The question is, are there predators as boy scouts, pedophiles who would come in as scoutmasters?,” Robertson asked. “And if they are, then of course parents wouldn’t want their sons being involved in the Boy Scouts, or their daughters in the Girl Scouts.”

Watch Robertson make these contentious statements, below:

What do you think about the faith leader’s latest commentary? Let us know, below.

(H/T: Huffington Post)

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Comments (256)

  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:58pm

    @ Doors of Deception: Keep laughing little man as you end up sterile. As you wonder why oh Atheist why there is no blessing of your generations? Why? Because you have rejected Abraham and Christ from whom generations come through? BY your OWN admission as an Atheist. If you end up with no children whose fault will that be when you take your girlfriend over and over to the fertility clinic and wonder why over and over why there is no pregnancy? Whose fault will that be? Why don’t you man up and take responsibility for what you believe which is nothing? You believe in no Lord of the Universe. You are an Atheist. Why should HE bless you? It is laughable how Atheists expect “blessings” from the source of nothing? You will end up childless. Empty. Nothing because that is what you believe in. Nothing. Nothing from nothing equals nothing. It will be YOUR fault not mine. Or the Church or the Bible. Very convenient of you to try and misplace blame like that but who believes in nothing? Oh. You do. Sneer. Mock. Jeer all you want. I already have children, grandchildren, great grand children and am expecting more. Where is the evidence of your blessings? Hmmm. That would be nowhere. You want annihilation. Or nothingness. You got it buddy! Enjoy it!

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 1:52pm

      From your comments you obviously know nothing about me, all though I have tried to give you a glimpse. However, from your comments I think I know you pretty well…if this is truly how you are…perhaps you just feel like a bigger man/woman behind a computer in your grandchild’s basement. I can only hope you are not like this in public. But you’re a counselor, so I’m sure you can diagnose yourself:) I really don’t care about all the things you have seen, I know people who have seen worse I’m sure and they are not a calloused evil old person. You sir/mamm are a vile human being inside…I want people like you to keep believing in a big daddy in the sky…there is no telling what you are/were capable of without it. I’m glad you will be in the ground when my children are in their prime…we no longer have use for people like you.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 1:53pm

      Oh and….hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  • Cosmos102
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:52pm

    Deep down every parent agrees with Pat Robertson. Sorry. That’s just the way it is.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:46pm

    @Doors of Deception: LOVE? You Love all people yet proclaim yourself an Atheist? Exactly from what SOURCE do you love? Atheism which denies the very existence of an Almighty Creator who has out of LOVE made us for Himself? What of TOUGH LOVE? Which I practice? Because I get guys like you in my office who are drinking and drugging themselves to death with unprotected sex and anal bleeding? What should I tell them? Just keep being an Atheist as you are? How is that working for you? Or how is it working for you now that your life is in the toilet from women you have slept with and defrauded and not married and what about your secret abortions and drinking as a non gay male? I got guys in my office all day long just like you who sneer and mock at Christians, the Bible, you blame the Church and religion, and yet you expect blessings from who? It is laughable how Atheists who deny the existence of a Moral and Just Creator of the Universe then want the blessings of children? Do you think a loving God is going to give you children so you can turn them into Atheists? Do you think you will end well? I have to visit Atheists like you in their 60s in the hospitals with tubes in themselves. You will not end well. You cannot end well. Whereas I already have three grown children, 3 grandchildren, three more grandchildren on the way and have adopted a little boy of 10 from Africa. Blessings comes from Abraham through Christ. You believe in nothing so you get nothing. Enjoy Annihilation

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 1:56pm

      I don’t drink…but I think you should start. I love the same way you do(or claim to)…I just don’t claim it’s from a book or from a being I can’t see.

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    • libertarianodinist
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 4:13pm

      @Shorelineliz,So everybody who’s not a christian is doomed to annhilation,and you wonder why Christainity is a dying religion or the reason that people have left the church never to comeback.Plus you’re just a bigot like christ taught you to be

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:39pm

    @ZipIT: Yeah. Just keep calling me the “hater”. LMAO. Add racist, homophobe, bigot to that wouldja? Cause honey that is all you have is name calling. LMAO! I love this website!

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:45pm

      @Shoreleglez

      Yeah, you have stated tons of facts and haven’t done any name calling. You cursed my girlfriends womb…haha. Why do counselors always seem to be the ones in need of counseling? You’re a joke.

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  • Paroikos
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:12pm

    Let’s retake the language of this debate. The word homosexual is misleading. In many minds, that word is equivalent to maleness, femaleness, race, etc. Those mistaken minds say things like, “Segregation by [objectively observable innate characteristic X] happened. Isn’t discriminating against homosexuals the same thing?” No, of course not. Those minds are confused. Thus, we need better terms:

    Consider these possible terms:

    1. Not kleptomaniac, but homomaniac (shortend to homaniac). This person reportedly has strong urges to misuse sexual organs via unnatural relations. How strong do the urges have to be in order for a person to be diagnosed as a kleptomaniac? The urges are so strong that the person steals. Can a person be a kleptomaniac if that person never steals? No. The same is true for homaniacs. Kleptomania and homania should be treated, not ignored. (Some people who steal are not kleptomaniacs. That group and kleptomaniacs both fall into the category of thieves. Similary, homaniacs and others who have unnatural relations fall into the category of Sodomites.)

    2. Predicted homaniac – similar to a predicted kleptomaniac. The prediction could be wrong. If given the opportunity, a predicted kleptomaniac might never eventually steal. We don’t know.

    3. Delusional “homosexual.” – identifies with the Left’s wrong idea that urges are equivalent to race, etc. (See http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=18-10-036-f) Keep the Scou

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  • MrKnowItAll
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:00pm

    We have been Fighting to keep them out long before all this.
    Gay men WANT Young Boys and Teens. Truth Be Told. Fight This Or The Boy Scouts are OVER.

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    • RaydocX
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:12pm

      PEDOPHILES want boys.
      Some are already in the ranks of the scouts a ‘target rich’ environment.
      Think Jerry Sandusky. Who does not consider himself homosexual…
      but who we can hope is now getting a taste of that lifestyle inside prison.

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  • Just_Us2
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:38am

    You would never dream of sending your daughter off to camp with a male instructor who watched them dress, shower, use the bathroom, sleep in the same tent. You would not do it because it’s sick and perverted. Because you would wonder what this sick SOB is doing watching your little girl shower? We all know that is NOT OK. But now some of you are saying its peachy to take a man who is attracted to the same sex and put him in a situation where he has unlimited access to your young boy? The fact is, if you are a man who has sex with boys YOUR ARE GAY or bi. You may be in the closet, but you are just as gay as Tom Cruise or John Travolta. Yes, pedos will get in and do damage, that is a risk in any situation. Knowingly letting a gay man in to your son’s life and providing access and means is just asking for your kid to be molested. It is no different than putting a straight man in that situation with girls. You are just asking for trouble.

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    • RaydocX
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:57am

      uhm, no.
      men who have sex with boys usually have no predilection… they’ll abuse girls, too, but boys are more convenient for the reason you mention at the beginning of your post… we don’t trust men with girls or women with boys (although the latter are treated much more as a wink wink phenomena, witness the teachers having sex with male students and getting off with lesser penalty than when it’s vice versa).

      labeling all molesters as homosexual demonstrates that you bias your interpretation of homosexuality. that is all.

      and in none of my scouting and camp experiences did we have male or female chaperones/ leaders in the shower watching us! What kind of camps did you go to, to believe that is EVER acceptable?!

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:18pm

      If you murder even just one person, you are a murderer. If you rape just one person, you are a rapist. If you rob one bank, you are a bank robber. Men do not just go after young boys on a whim. The thought is in their mind, as is the desire. They are attracted to their same sex. They act on that attraction and they are a pedophile….a gay pedophile. I really don’t care how you define it. Today’s society has tried to normalize all types of abnormal behavior. It’s funny, we as a society are crystal clear on some things, but we get real fuzzy on how we define homosexuals because gays simply do not like getting lumped in with other sexual deviancy. Just because a man is gay does not make him a pedophile….but….if you are a man who molests boys…you’re gay…you can have pointy headed ******** try to redefine that all day long….dude…ur gay….and worse…ur a gay pedo. So yes, ALL men who molest boys ARE GAY or bi. Because people are defined by what they DO not what they say. Prison is full of, “good people” who are angry they are defined by one act and constantly deny that is who they are. We can put on a lab coat and glasses and say it aint gay…..but sorry dude….its gay. Deal with it.

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    • RaydocX
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:50pm

      and because you like women, ‘dude’, you cannot be trusted around little girls.

      that make you skin crawl? it’s what you are saying… because you are heterosexual, you will bang any XX chromosome you can get your hands on.

      it’s an indefensible argument.
      and you are using it inappropriately… men wanting men is homosexuality.
      men wanting boys is pedophilia, and most want boys or girls, it’s a control issue more than a sex issue, a la rape (although i agree both DO involve sex… too many minimize the sex aspect completely, which hurts the victims)

      if you want to label all homosexual men as potential abusers of boys, you have to label all heterosexual men as potential abusers of girls… which i would bridle at and hope you would too.

      the moral knowledge that abusing a child is inappropriate and children are to be protected is not privileged among Christians or religious people or heterosexuals.

      i could tangent about murder being murder… if someone threatens my family i could kill them and never believe i had murdered. but i’m tired of the debate…i won’t convince you, and you won’t convince me. We’re each entitled to our opinion, and neither will in the end impact whether the Scouts include openly homosexual men in the ranks of their leaders.

      so i will leave the discussion hoping that none of your children or their children are ever forced to endure the horror that must be pedophilic rape.

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 2:05pm

      RaydocX – If you’re gay thats fine. If you rape a boy, ur a gay poedphile….not just a pedophile…a gay one. And yes, if a man is in charge of girls at a campout…thats creepy and yes any straight male could potentially be abuse a young girl…which is why you dont put men at camp outs where girls are because the potential is always there. Thanks for making my point. Try as you might to escape the sound logic, 100% of man on boy pedophilia is gay. You dont put a fox in a hen house, you dont put a man who likes other men in charge of boys. You are seven kinds of stupid aren’t you.

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  • jblaze
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:13am

    Just another step toward turning our boys into girls! Fathers, Dads, Men, Man, Males should get some testosterone and take a BIG LOUD STAND against this insult to Manhood! Men do not need a women’s permission! They are the head of the family and should not usurp their God given position. Please get some backbone! Yes I am a female!

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:12am

    Uhm, they’re already there, gang.

    why do you rob banks, Mr Sutton?

    Pedophiles will be found wherever there are groups of their chosen prey… pre schools/ day care/ school/ kids sports/ Scouts…

    they’re already there, and too often they look just like you or I.
    Robertson’s query is no different than saying i can’t coach my daughter’s soccer or basketball teams because i might be predating on the young girls.

    It’s a sick twisted reality that a fraction of the population DO. so we have to always be vigilant, raise our kids right, assure them when they are told they ‘can’t tell us’ they NEED to tell us, warn them that there are bad people good at pretending otherwise, and still encourage them to be friendly and caring and interested in other people… It’s a terrifying job too many today simply abdicate to television, public schools, and friends.

    That clearly isn’t working that well for the majority. But trying to scare parents that homosexuals are more likely to molest children than John Q Public has zero basis in fact. Citing studies of priests or other molesters ignore selection bias and frankly, when they answer questions, researchers should remember they lie and they lie convincingly.

    Not that I think Robetson was relying on facts… nothing like scaring those who don’t know any homosexuals to build support for your position, even if there’s no foundation to it, right Lefties?

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:54am

      If you has sex with someone of the same sex, you are gay. You may deny it or hide it, but you’re gay. Therefore, man on boy sex is gay sex. So straight males do not have sex with young boys, there is no attraction. Gay males are attracted to the same sex be it young or old, it is a homosexual attraction. All the studies in the world can say there are straight males who are just as likely to be pedophiles on boys, but they are either bi or gay. It is the ACTION that defines you. If you perform homosexual acts, you are by definition homosexual. You may have a wife and kids, making you bisexual, meaning you like men/boys just as much as any other gay man. These studies are a joke. Very much like black men being on the down low….oh I am not gay, I just get oral sex from dudes….ya…YOU’RE GAY DUDE. Might be in denial….but you’re gay.

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    • RaydocX
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:09pm

      man on boy sex is deviant sex… it does not involve mutual attraction.
      your argument would follow if you have sex with a sheep you’re a sheep, dude.

      You ARE correct that it is a person’s ACTIONS that define whether they are upstanding and moral or a predator who should be put down.

      But your insinuation is that no step father can be trusted with a step daughter, no step mother can be allowed alone with a step son… Female counselors cannot counsel boys in high school… male driving instructors cannot teach girls to drive, and as mentioned, coaches cannot be of the opposite sex, because it would be ‘too tempting.’

      We aren’t just stimulus response animals… We understand right and wrong, whether gay or straight. And considering that most people have had a homosexual dream, you might be careful throwing stones around your glass house about labeling who is gay… there are people radical enough to insist a homosexual dream means latent homosexual tendencies.

      So I would oppose anyone ‘viewing’ my kids as they shower… I would oppose any adult ‘sleeping’ with my kids on a camping trip, but if you are suggesting homosexuals are more likely to act inhumanely toward my children, i have to shake my head… often times the opposite is true… homosexuals are on the whole more empathetic.

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 2:22pm

      If gays understood right from wrong, they wouldn’t be gay now would they? Lot’s of people do things that are wrong and you can find lots of experts to say it’s OK. I wouldn’t let my kid be an alter boy, wouldn’t have a male babysit my little girl, wouldn’t put my son in scouts with gay men. Bill Clinton had his pecker slathered in the oval office and you lecture me about people having self control? I have zero trust for any man with my family, let a lone a man who is at ease and open about his sexual perversion. Our politicians are guilty of every sexual perversion known to man, Barney Frank ran a male brothel from his house, another is flying overseas to have sex with young girls, others visit prostitutes, abuse drugs and alcohol….churches experience abuse in spite of their best efforts to avoid it…teachers have sex with students…police get caught texting nude pictures of themselves to each other…..but when it comes to a gay man looking after our scouts…oh…well they are a paragon of virtue. Give me a break. I don’t buy your crap that its all the same, I dont buy your crap that Obama is my daddy, I dont by your crap that everybody does it, I dont buy your crap that homos are normal. Following your logic got the world in the shape that its in today, but you still aren’t satisfied with the level of bilge we live in…no you have to have more boys rapped in the name of your god political correctness. Take your god and shove it where your lover puts his

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 2:40pm

      “If gays understood right from wrong, they wouldn’t be gay now would they?”

      Debate over…Ray wins….

      Probobaly the dumbest thing said on this thread. READ BOOKS!!!!!!!!

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:12am

    @ Doors of Deception:

    I’m really a troll. A big hairy one! We should get together. I sure you will like me. Invite your boyfriend, I mean, uh, girlfriend, uh, friend.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:10am

    @ Doors of Deception: You Atheists are a dime a dozen. A light snack for me. I can do this all day. I got 25 years of notes on you guys. In the end you will walk into my office weeping and crying like a little baby. From your failed life. Cause life is a bitch kid. It kicks you in the rear end over and over. See you when you are 45 and limp as a biscuit from touching yourself too many times. Remember: Masturbation will actually make you go blind. Tons of blind 45 year old impotent Atheist suicidal clients. yawn. Hell of a lot smarter than you kid. At least they are figuring it out at 45. If you ever find yourself with a loaded gun in your mouth give me a buzz. I am around.

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  • Verceofreason
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:05am

    Why is Pat bringing up the girl scouts?
    I thought the right wing had already declared those little hussies as all

    Can’t conservatives even keep their stories straight?
    Lesbian Feminazis?

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:04am

    @ Door of Deceptions: Atheists are created by porn loving pants fiddlers like you who incessantly want to blame others for your inability to stop touching yourself and so they have to close the bible and stop going to church so they can do what you do. You create yourselves but go ahead and keep up the blame game and take no responsibility as a man, if that is indeed what you are, for your own failed moral compass and own failed life. I bet you work at a coffee shop when you aren’t pretending to be some smart academic or maybe you are some really, really, smart academic, huh? maybe you still have every little certificate and blue ribbon you ever won displayed on a BIG WALL of your accomplishments, huh? YOu are so important aren’t you? Keep telling yourself insignificant little bug. Remember. There is always a shoe around. Do everyone a favor and scurry away little bug wouldja? Scurry little bug. Scurry away to your dark little safe hole in the wall or under a rock. Scurry now.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:23am

      Ugh, why do I even do this? My mother was an elementary school teacher…she is a devout christian and I have never seen her drink alcohol or utter a curse word. My father is a retired Army Colonel…he has served this country in Germany, Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia, and Turkey. I’m 31 and work for an Insurance company, My girlfriend works selling credit card machines to businesses. We live in a tiny 1000sq foot apartment with our dog Millie. She is a German Wiredhair Pointer and she is the sweetest dog I have ever known. I do love reading, and consider myself to be of average intelligence but slightly more read than most people I know. I love anything science and history. I believe I have a huge heart…I love people and the human race…I love animals…I love my family and friends. I try my hardest everyday to be the best person I can be to the people who I encounter and love me back. I try to play my tiny role in reducing suffering in the world as best I can. I love life…I truly do…I hope you feel the same:)

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  • pragmaticpatriot
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:59am

    As a parent just get involved- at the cost of a promising career. As a kid i was a scout as was my entire baseball team, the dads who werent coaches were scout leaders, some dads werent there but it was ok because their kids were with us. Everyone knew everyones parents. It was a different world then, parents taking time to be a parent, without a cell phone in their face. The real issue to me is we dont trust one another anymore, our families are torn apart and we are lost in a liberal hades

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:50am

    @ Doors of Deception:
    Blah, blah, blah, you’re a hater, blah, blah, blah, I’m the lover, blah, blah, blah, you are the reason people hate religion, blah, blah, blah, I am morally superior as an atheist, blah, blah, blah, everyone here is more stupid than me, blah, blah, blah, let me quote some more smart stuff to fool you all, blah, blah, blah, hands down my pants, blah, blah, blah, my girlfriend and me, blah, blah, blah, nauseous, blah, blah, blah, drinking myself to death…shhhh…., blah, blah, blah, secret abortions, shhhh, blah, blah, blah, everyone who doesn’t agree with my obvious moral superior positions are haters, blah, blah, blah, religion is stupid, blah, blah, blah, everyone listen to me I know more, blah, blah, blah, hate church cause it interfered with my porn, blah, blah, blah, and screwing my girlfriend all day long, blah, blah, blah, me and my girlfriend baby, blah, blah, blah, i am smarter than everyone here, blah, blah, blah, mindset, blah, blah, blah, i really feel hurt, blah, blah, blah, you hurt my feelings, wah, blah, blah, blah, I am so superior, compassionate, and kind as a liberal/atheist, blah, blah, blah, hope nobody really finds out about the real me, blah, blah, blah, everybody listen to me I am so much superior than the bible or religion, blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, blah, blah, blah, I will just keep calling everyone haters to deflect my own intense self hate, blah, blah, blah, ………..

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:58am

      Hahahaha…thank you for laughs:)

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:59am

      my favorite was…”let me quote some smart stuff to fool you all”. Hahahaha…at least your honest shorelineliz…if that’s your real name:)

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:09am

      @shorelineliz

      Project much? Thank you for streaming your consciousness in the last two posts…pretty close to what I figured sluiced through your damaged brain(if you are real of course)…haha either way thank you for the laughs. I am actually at work but trust me, I am laughing out loud…and I wish my girlfriend was rubbing my shoulders right now…but I can’t wait to show her this when I get home:) She always needs a laugh after work. You’re a good dude or dudette Liz.

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    • libertarianodinist
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 4:20pm

      @ Shorelineliz are you just talking about yourself cause you’re doing a damn good job about that

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  • The_Doors_Of_Perception
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:43am

    @Shoreline

    Seriously, you are a sick human being.

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  • The_Doors_Of_Perception
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:40am

    I’m not too worried Benghazi…he was responding to one of my threads on the first page. He can’t even figure out how to work this thread, so I’m sure his spell casting days are over.

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  • walnutportconservative
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:37am

    Perverts will be boy scouting within, and as official members of the BSA. Live gets better for the evil ones. I will stop any support for the BSA when they make that decision to become diverse.
    Oh… I will pray for the perverted sinners.

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  • smwk
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:33am

    Doesn’t Girl Scouts allow boys who identify themselves as girls join their group? If so, why don’t gay girls AND boys just join girl scouts?

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  • Remember_Benghazi
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:31am

    Casting curses and general ill-will toward non-believers, now this is the Christianity! What a follower of Christ! Wouldn’t it be great if we could go back to the good ole’ days of stoning them, setting them on fire, and castrating them? Maybe next time they’ll think twice about doubting the existence of our God of unconditional love.

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:22am

      Works for me! Nasty little Atheist toads deserve it! You should read up on the history of the Early Church and stop your anemic pathetic little drivel up above. They had nasty little Gnostics and Arians hauling them into court as we do today trouncing on them and throwing them to wild beasts. Let’s not forget how NERO used Christians as torches. I have no problem confronting Atheists on their own terms and you can stick your “love everybody” where the sun doesn’t shine okay? We are at WAR or don’t you read your Bible except for all the sickening parts where the Easter Bunny brings eggs? Or Santa Claus gives everyone exactly what they want? Or we are supposed to make everyone “feel nice” or the list you must have of what amounts to “can we all just get along?” NO! We can’t all just get along okay? Did Jesus get along with the Pharisees or Money Changers? Did Jesus get along with Pilate? The Romans? Read your Bible would you? He could ONLY work with people who would REPENT of their sins and what is an Atheist really? Is it someone repenting of their sins of playing the Almighty Card, the All Knowing, I am the measure of all things card? And, of course there is once again the insipid Evangelical notion that all people can be saved and 25 years of counseling people has proven otherwise. Please get a clue okay? There are many people who have no intention EVER of being right with God. They do not wish it nor seek it. I don’t have to be bashed by anybody. Smarter than th

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    • libertarianodinist
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 3:58pm

      @Rember_Benghazi pleas tell us about your loving god who wants you to cause harm to others.Are you mentally unbalanced or something?

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  • pragmaticpatriot
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:29am

    The Gayscouts, inclusion by delusion

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  • The_Doors_Of_Perception
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:29am

    You should just keep your kids locked up in a basement. Or just pull an Andrea Yates on em…then nothingbad will ever happen to them.

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 12:50pm

      How did you KNOW I kept my kids locked up in my basement? Dang! I been found out. That darn crystal ball of yours!

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  • TOMYMICHAELS
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:29am

    I don’t understand the problem! There is a reason why there are currently “two” versions of “Scouts”, they’re “different sexes”! There are the “Boy Scouts” and the “Girl Scouts”. When two “boys” want to “have sex with eachother”, that makes them a “Third type of sex”! So… why do they have to get to join one of the first two which are clearly ‘different’? All they have to do is start their own… “Gay Scouts of America” and the problem is solved!!! And… not to be politically incorrect and leave anybody out, there could be a “Fourth” Scouting group for girls who want to have sex with other girls and it could be called the “Lesbian Scouts of America”! The Boy Scouts are not invaded any more than if girls wanted to join them! Why is this so difficult?

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  • 2GodBeTheGlory
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:25am

    @Locked

    You derive information from people that actually state that they do not have enough information, but then go on to make assumptions based on incomplete information. These are “researchers” that are extrapolating and making assertions without “all the facts”. They miss the one important fact, having sex with a child of the same sex is the very definition of homosexuality, regardless of age. Making up another word to micro assert something to make it different does not make it so. They also agree that many people who molest where they themselves molested so therefore have problems themselves that are perpetrated on others. These “experts” have varying degrees of problems both with themselves as well as the evidence that is laid out. Their “scientific” approach as listed is not in fact science at all, and I challenge any scientist to prove the assertions made by these people.

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  • VoteRightDammit
    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:21am

    “WOULD ALLOWING GAYS IN THE BOY SCOUTS LEAD TO ‘PREDATORS’ AND ‘PEDOPHILES WHO WOULD COME IN AS SCOUTMASTERS’?”

    Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.

    Such things simply don’t happen.

    I mean – look at all the gay Priests ~~~~ THEY were not full of pedophiles, were they?

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    • HarryPotter
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 4:08pm

      So we got pedophile priests because the Catholic Church opened up the priesthood to homosexuals? Or was it pedophiles, masquerading as straight, godly men, who joined to take advantage?

      This story is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 6:17pm

      AllI know is my 4 grand sons won’t follow in my 3 sons footsteps, starting with Cub Scouts next year. I’v already discussed with them and they agree that they won’t be Cubs & then Boy Scouts. I was a leader in Cubs & Scouts to protect my sons and other kids from Q_ueers posing as a leader. When a 12 yeart old boy says he’s Q_ueer he is just confused as he is finding his sexuality. I saw last week where some stuped parents are allowing a 12 year old have a sex change. This isn’t something that next year you can say I changed my mind or I was wrong.

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    • HarryPotter
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 6:47pm

      Turkey:
      If you and your sons are truly planning to keep those boys out of scouts because you have some irrational fear of gay people, I feel sorry for them. And at 12 years old, everyone, gay and straight, is still trying to understand and come to terms with their sexuality. A gay 12 year old is no more confused than a straight 12 year old. This is the age when you first realize where your attractions lie, and you can either accept them, and that aspect of yourself, or you can try to deny them and live a life of deceit and in fulfillment until you finally accept it. Trust me, I have been through it.

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    • Concernd4USA
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:06pm

      I do not agree with the Gay lifestyle but I am not afraid of it. I also have no problem with a gay cub,boy,eagle scout but I do have a problem with the adults being gay.

      We would not send a little girl out to go camping with a man just out of prevention. We should apply the same logic to the adult gay males. I am not pointing to a correlation between Gay and pedophilia but I am just applying the same rules that are already in place.

      I had a grown man attempt to touch me when I was 8 was he gay or straight I do not know, but when in doubt preventitive actions should be practiced.

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    • E.Z. Las Vegas
      Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:20pm

      1. The North American Man Boy Love Association will find any way it can to be close to children. Some will become bus drivers, teachers, priests, daycare workers, custodians, and ABSOLUTELY Scout Masters.
      2. There are already thousands of adults involved in scouting.
      3. It is safe to assume that there are a FEW bad apples in the barrel of scouting already.

      The danger here is not that a molester will strike lots of scouts, although that is not impossible. No, the danger is that once the gay community has to be accepted into scouting, that they will be open and honest about their recruiting, sort of like Obama’s “safe schools czar.” Who got that job because of his ability to distribute recruiting materials for sexual activity (even if it would have been straight, it would have been wildly inappropriate.)

      As I recall, he also counseled one of his students to “use a condom” while being statutorially raped by an older man. I don’t believe that it is a good idea for sexuality, in any form, to be the next merit badge, and the gay community seems to be fixated on sexuality.

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    • HarryPotter
      Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:32am

      Concerned:
      Thank you for a measured comment, and at least recognizing that every boy should be able to join scouts. And I agree, that if I had a son, I would not want him out alone with a gay man I didn’t know well. I also would not want him out alone with a straight man I didn’t know well. There are far too many cases of “straight” married men abusing boys as well. The key is to treat gay parents and volunteers as you would any straight one. Do background checks, get to know them before you trust your children with them. Even better, volunteer to help out with the scouts yourself. No adult should be alone with a child on a scouting trip, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

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    • CapnCrumbles32
      Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:44am

      The problem in the Catholic church stems from a misrepresentation of the writings of Paul. Paul encouraged male followers to remain celibate and fully devoted to God, noting that a married man’s interests are divided between God and the needs of his wife and family, however Paul later states that if a man should burn with lust, he must be married lest it cause him to sin. He clarifies it by saying the man who is married does well and the one who remains celibate does better. The Catholic church perverted the message and prevented those in the church from marrying. This lead to unhealthy feelings of sexual repression and a lustful yearning that was expressed in secret, often times on those most vulnerable. Catholicism has a long rap sheet regarding offenses against God’s word.

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    • tommysoap
      Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:48am

      Very few of the sexual abusing priests were “pedophiles”, since a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to a prepubescent child.. What the priests really were are HOMOSEXUAL preditors, since the vast majority of their victims were post pubescent males.

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    • Locked
      Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:25am

      @Tommy

      “Very few of the sexual abusing priests were “pedophiles”, since a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to a prepubescent child.. What the priests really were are HOMOSEXUAL preditors, since the vast majority of their victims were post pubescent males.”

      Modern parlance equates pedophile to anyone going after a child under the age of majority. You’re still incorrect when you say they were “homosexual peditors (sic),” because the actual term for those attracted to adolescents is “pederasty.” However that’s still a weak position to take, as the youngest children raped by priests in the RCC were 4 years of age. And about a fourth of the victims were girls.

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    • Sawdy19
      Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:20pm

      Turkey13 – Would it then be safe to assume that you will no longer allow your grandchildren to attend school as well? After all, there are all those straight predators and pedophiles that become school teachers… the ones who prey on girls. It’s not gay men who go around raping women and abducting little girls you know. But I guess that’s “OK” in your book since that type of behavior is “natural”.

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    • ihasa
      Posted on February 18, 2013 at 8:02am

      Yeah, that’s right, cos the Catholic Church has always been soooo pro gay, right? ;P

      The kids need to be protected from sexual predators, period. I’m not sure how publically banning gay scouts is supposed to achieve this. Doesn’t happen in any other scouting country, AFAIK.

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