Rubio vs. Paul: Will the Leader of ‘the New GOP’ Please Stand Up?
It’s been an eventful last two weeks for the young GOP star, Florida Senator Marco Rubio. After headlining the bipartisan ‘Gang of Eight’ Immigration reform framework last week, Rubio was named Thursday to be the Republican giving the party’s response to the president’s State of the Union speech on February 12, and has made the cover of the latest TIME magazine with the title of “The Republican Savior.”
A front runner for the party’s presidential nomination in 2016, the Cuban-American’s political momentum has continued to rise as he represents many hallmarks of what is old and new about the party; a 2010 Tea Party candidate supported by the Bush Family, young for a major national politician at 41 yet experienced in the private sector and state government, able to connect with younger voters on many cultural issues yet a steadfast conservative on political positions, and from an important swing state and ethnic background where the GOP hopes to make major improvements.
While all signs point to support for Rubio from the Republican majority and becoming the ‘next in line’ candidate for 2016, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul appears to be quietly assemblying his own 2016 team and preparing to be a possible grassroots, anti-establishment libertarian-leaning national candidate like his father–a politician known for consistently exceeding mainstream media expectations in presidential elections.
Paul gave a high profile foreign policy speech at the Heritage Foundation Wednesday, distancing himself from other 2016 Republican contenders by criticizing neoconservative policy and arguing for America’s place on the global stage to be decidedly less interventionist.
Political observers are beginning to take notice of the brewing rivalry for leadership in the “new GOP” as both Paul and Rubio begin to assemble 2016 war chests. Rebekah Metzler writes in US News:
For all the hand-wringing and cautious “messaging” changes the GOP establishment and party leaders are trying out, the “new” brand looks an awful lot like the “old” brand, with few exceptions. But Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Florida Senator Marco Rubio—buoyed by an independent base of conservative popularity and the youthful confidence that comes from being anointed your party’s saviors—are striking out their own path.
On ‘Real News‘ Thursday the panel discussed the non-traditional ideas both Rubio and Rand are brining to the GOP that have gained traction, and whether Rand and Rubio can be allies or rivals moving forward.
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Rush Limborg
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 3:55pmI am amazed–and bitterly amused–at all the labeling of Rubio as a “progressive”, or a “quisling”–or, and this is the most rediculously laughable…a LA RAZA supporting anchor baby.
Really–I sincerely hope these are just a bunch of nuts, who do NOT represent Libertarians/Conservatives as a whole.
NOW…
I would be honored to support EITHER of these two, Rand and Rubio. Personally, I wouldn’t mind a joint ticket.
RUBIO/PAUL 2016! What do you think?
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Modern_Cicero
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:42pmThe video is presented by S.E. Cupp like a true Establishment Republican. We HAVE to consider people based on their ideological world-view at this point. We have to stop going over the cliff and roll back government control of daily life. We have to shut down most federal agencies. We have to balance the budget. Republicans In Name Only will not do this. They have to go.
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ttim
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:47pmI already feel defeated for 2016 considering the left is already taking donations for a possible run, Hillary. A Rand/Cruz ticket would give me hope. I wish someone on the side of truth would stand up and start the race.
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NotBigBooteeitsBigButtay
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:50amFrom a blog I like:
http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/natural-born-citizen/
“So! This Act of the First Congress implements the Principles set forth in Vattel, embraced by our Framers, and enshrined in Art. II, §1, cl. 5, that:
A “natural born Citizen” is one who is born of parents who are citizens.
Minor children born here of aliens do not become citizens until their parents are naturalized. Thus, they are not “natural born” citizens.
Our Framers rejected the anti-republican and feudal notion that mere location of birth within a Country naturalizes the children of a foreigner. 8
The distinction written into Our Constitution and implemented by the Naturalization Act of 1790 is between someone who is born a citizen, by being born of parents who are already Citizens, and someone who becomes a citizen after birth by naturalization. Only the former are eligible to be President.”
This is only a small portion of the proof. I encourage anyone still confused over this to read the blog page. It is not my own.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:19pmSo what is the point….
Rubio has two legal immigrant parents that were naturalized in 1975 after being in the US…legally as residents…for 20 years….making them citizens in 1975..so any children born after 1975 would be “natural born citizens.”
Marco was born in 1971….so for the shortage of 4 years you would stop him from running by his younger sibling by 5 years could??
The “intent” of the clause in the Constitution is to prevent and dissuade dual allegiances. The Founders wished for citizens to ONLY be beholden to the united States of America and not a foreign government.
I believe that if we go back and could see the records, the Rubio’s parents filed for citizenship before 1971 and thus confirmed their intention to be beholden ONLY to the united States. Citizenship applications usually are part of a 7 year process.
I understand the position of those that wish to be legalistic about this clause in the Constitution but NOBODY brought this up until our current usurper in chief took office and doing so actually HELPED him win election the first time due to the subject becoming a hammer to bash the Republicans on all levels with. Saying that, I agree that BHO is not a “natural born citizen” as our Founders and the Courts after them intended due to the fact that his father was here on a student visa, not a resident, nor EVER declared his intent to become one, but he was born in HI.
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Southernsoul
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:40amRubio is one of my senators. i wish I would have thought to save the letters he has sent me in response to my questions and comments. This man is a RINO, big time. He sees no fault in what obama does and has told me in summary that obama is the president and is allowed to do the things he does. I so deeply regret that I ever supported Rubio in his initial run for the senate.
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The_Jerk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:33amYes he is. He couldn’t stand with McCain, Graham, or Schumer if he were not. Another schmoozing fraud.
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The_Jerk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:43amIf Rubio is being pushed by TIME magazine, he’s a kibbutz-er, a commune believer. It’s a Jewish publication. Managing Editor: Richard Stengel.
We’re being played like a drum. Just ask those cultural supporters of commune-ism.
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Levinite
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:16amRubio is a RINO. The choice should be clear.
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CapnCrumbles32
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:14amC) None of the above. Why does my choice have to be between Rubio, who wants to drastically alter our culture by legalizing tens of millions of criminal aliens, and Paul who while not as bad as his father seems to posess a great sense of naivety when it comes to the threat of violent Islamic expansion and the importance of our relationship with Israel. If this is all that the Republican Party has to offer than it deserves to die.
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The_Jerk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:34amConservatives do not stick their noses into other peoples business, Israel included.
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Stab_friendly
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:33amSo, who wants to the the 2016 sacrificial lamb for the GOP?
Anyone?
Cricket, cricket…
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CapnCrumbles32
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53amTrue
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:08amCan Michelle Malkin speak a foreign language? Did Santa Claus switch political parties?
Rush Limbaugh is Cigar Puffing?
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waspanglosaxon
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 3:06amYes, if the Republican Party lets that Cuban give the televised party response in Spanish, then that’s it – I will not vote Republican in 2016 regardless of who runs. Likewise, if Rubio is on the ticket, even in the second place spot, they can forget about my vote (and millions like me).
Marco Rubio is the Barak Obama of the Republican Party: a coloured candidate to do battle against the Coloured Party (the Democrats).
Rand Paul would be an excellent choice for President (or V.P.); he is, in fact, about the only well-known candidate who would even be acceptable.
I say yes to America and to Americans; I likewise say no to Cuba, to Mexico and to Israel.
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AUsername
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:40amRand Paul 2016 lets vote for an American born in the country and who respects out national heritage not a person who wants to attack and destroy American culture. Hell no to Rubio.
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ScarletRose
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:00amRubio and Paul BOTH would make the most Leaders for the NEW GOP – The RINO MARXISTS!
I’ll be looking for someone who reminds me of the Founding Fathers of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
You RINOS keep the SCHILLS for Russia and Iran for yourselves.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:55amOh gee, so my choice is La Raza Reconquista Quisling Rubio, or Anti-Semite Isolationist Randy.
Thank you very much.
The Robber Baron, Rocky Feeler, Gilt Bird Cabin, Conservative Free GOP can kisz my asz. THEY can sniff after the Moronic Mythical “Moderate” “Middle” like beeches in heat as THEY in turn sniff likewise after the Commiequeers* until they are OVER the Left Field Wall, OUT the back of the Stadium, DOWN the Dark Alley, UNDER the Manhole and IN the Sewer. I’m staying right here at Home Plate with The Founders, the Declaration of God Endowed, Unalienable, Sovereign Individual Liberty, and The Constitution and The Republic created SOLELY to SECURE those Liberties.
I want the Fed Beechsow’s head ripped off and tties disemboweled . I want a Mamma Grizzly. I want the Inside the Beltloop Ruling Class Aristos shredded and sheat out. I want a SaraCuda. I want someone, to quote John Cleese in “Silverado”: “not from around these parts.” Until then I’m voting “None of the Above” (legal write-in in VA) in 16 and beyond if American Revolution v3.0 isn’t rolling by then.
MY solutions START with a gigantic “Red Dawn” “Hun Circle” just outside the Beltloop that slays Every Living Creature inside with Fire and Sword. Wake me when you find a Leader for THAT “Party”.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:07am*my semantically accurate usage for the “terminological inexactitudes” “liberal” “left” “progressive”.
My apologies for the reprise. Lag time fooled me into thinking first didn’t post, so I rewrote and reposted.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:40am“new GOP” = “amnesty for illegal aliens”
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:32amYeah… did you see that Rubio is going to be delivering the response to the State of the Union in Spanish? Is that true?
If so, the Republican party MUST DIE.
I will NOT “Press 2 for English”, dammit.
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loneindividual
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:46amSacrifice of a Lesser Principle.
I’m not giving up on Eternal Principles of Individualism.
Clearly though, if we do amnesty, we have to fix the corruption in our Bureaucracy & demand that none recieve welfare benefits for at least 10 years.
We cannot accept the risk of even 1/5 of the illegal immigrants to pull us down.
With as corrupt as our bureaucracy is though…that risk might already be present in whatever % it is.
So Amnesty might not even do anything harmful if the harm is already present.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:40amGee, so I get a choice between La Raza Reconquista Quisling Rubio, or Isolationist Randy?
Thank you very much.
I want the Federal Beech Sow with her head ripped off and her teetees disemboweled—I want a Mamma Grizzly. I want the Inside the Beltlooper Ruling Class Aristos shredded and sheate out–I want a SaraCuda. I want somebody, to quote John Cleese in “Silverado”: “not from around these parts.” My solutions START with a gigantic “Red Dawn” “Hun Circle” just outside The Beltloop that slays Every Living Creature inside with Fire and Sword.
WAKE me when you find somebody to lead THAT “Party”. Until them I’m voting “None of the Above” by write-in ( Legal ballot here in VA) in 16 and however long after that American Revolution v3.0 takes to get up to speed. I’d prefer it start tomorrow.
The Robber Baron, Rocky Feeler, Gilt Bird Cabin, Conservative Free GOP can sniff after the Moronic Mythical “Middle” “Moderates” as THEY in turn sniff after the Commiequeers* like beeches in heat until they ALL Rot in He ll.
*my semantically accurate usage for the “terminological inexactitudes” “liberal “left” “progressive”
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SunTzuYou
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:35pmThe mainstream press will determine who the leader of the opposition is and then methodically dismember that person in a concerted manner to elect Ms. Clinton.
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tonypro
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:50amExactomundo.
This will be the case again, providing our nation survives the current criminals that are destroying us at a break neck speed.
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TRILO
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:08pmRubio is nothing more than the young version of the same old progressive anti-constitution elitist republican. Dream Act, NDAA, CISPA, TARP, etc, etc, etc.
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DRSAVAGE24
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:24pmYep, which means when the chips are down, Beck, et al. will support him. Beck, the “libertarian”, says that one ill-advised Ron Paul twitter remark is an example why he could NEVER support Dr. Paul. However, Beck the “libertarian” supported the liberal Romney, even went so far as to say he’s the next George Washington (by far a dumber comment than anything Ron Paul has ever said).
So, if given a choice between a rock solid advocate of liberty who might slip up with his word choice periodically or a dyed in the wool statist who is a smooth talker, Beck will take the smooth talking statist every time.
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scarydave
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:14amDRSAVAGE24
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:24pm
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You seem like a pissed-off RP supporter. Get over it. Not even Ron Paul could have won, then fixed what’s broken in this country. Same with Rubio. The truth is that the GOP is dead, or at the very least gasping it’s last breath, and we know that the democrat party is so corrupt that the entire party membership needs to be flushed. I do not know what the answer is yet, but I have visions of what it should be. This country needs to go back to being run by WE THE PEOPLE, and not by a bunch of crooks from any of the present day political parties. Yes, this includes the bat-poop crazy libertarian party.
If you are supporting an American political party now, and/or over the next 4 years, then you are making the problem worse. Don’t be the problem, be the solution.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:32pm@Dr
Beck did support Romney and he spelled out his reasons and his concerns, routinely, if you wish to be intellectually honest.
Beck said Romney was not his first or second choice even…but he was the choice we had when the primary season was over. Yes, I know, RP was robbed…waa waa waa boo hoo boo hoo…go cry in your beer somewhere else…
What do you say the Rand Paul even came around and decided to accept and campaign for Romney? He made a statement, much like Beck, that said while he did not agree with EVERYTHING Romney stood for, he was the best course of action instead of voting third party or for Obama….
If tales are true, Rand and Romney agreed on cutting $4-5T from the Federal budget over the next four years…they might differ on how, but at least the end result was the same, a balanced budget and paying off our debts. They agreed on energy independence. They seemed to agree on the returning of control to the States on many levels like Education, Interior management, and Labor issues.
I believe Rand and Romney, as with Beck, agreed on probably 75% of all issues. Maybe not how to accomplish them or how fast but they did agree on the final product and viewpoint. Smaller central government, more personal freedom, more State control, balanced budgets and paying off debts…
So yeah..go ahead and whine that RP was robbed…or STFU and work together to find someone we all believe in 75% of the time to do what is right.
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resme
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:51pmJeb bush or Rubio will be our Nominee in 2016.
Isn’t it great more shills from the neo-con group PNAC ( Project for the New American Century)?
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orcuttpepa
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:24amLets see: Obama is not natural born because one of his parents was not a US Citizen making him ineligible for the Presidency, Yet Rubio is eligible when both his parents were not Citizens when he was born? Hypocrites!
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:14amWell “wake up”, I don’t like the GOP (pronounced GAHP rhymes with mop) either–see my other diatribes– but if you Potters and “Neo-con” haters want MY vote then you’d better back burner your isolationism.
Job ONE for MY CIC is snuffing Raggies. You ain’t down with that you can go to He ll.
You morons had better figure out how to BUILD Bridges to “Religious” Conservatives rather than burn them. But I don’t believe a one of you is that smart.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:20amI find it suspect that the PROGRESSIVE stance on issues — uncontrolled spending, foreign adventurism, ignoring the constitution — should be considered “conservative”.
The religious conservatives need to join US. Realize that FedGov has no business legislating anything about abortion, no matter how much you and I personally abhor it. Realize that FedGov has no business legislating anything about drugs and their prohibition, period. Realize that the states are themselves independent sovereignties, wherein the powers not granted to the FedGov are left to the States and the People.
Be religious in church. God bless you. Be religious in public. God bless you. Do not force your religious preferences into the lives of those who do not believe as you do. Leave legislating “moral issues” to the individual states, where such debates belong. Take a look around — that is where you win those battles, anyway.
Realize that the Constitution makes no mention of marriage at all, and does not give the FedGov the power to legislate in that area. Take government the Hell out of marriage altogether, and institute legal civil unions, for reasons of inheritance law, power-of-attorney and so forth. No, it does not matter if two guys get a civil union. Or two girls. Or a dozen of each. This is a civil, legal contract. But it is not so at the Federal level, because the FedGov is not granted power to make laws in that area.
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tonypro
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:03am@ Norm D. Plume
The one message that stands out in your post the most, is that the states should have their sovereignty to run themselves without federal interference.
I personally believe that would straighten out the mess, reign in the dictatorship feds., and be a win win for all.
Think about it, if you want to live in a U.N. test ground then move to N.Y.
If you want to live with fruits, and nuts move to Cal.
I guarantee the states that respect the people, and their freedoms, and allow the citizens to vote towards any laws (instead of having a few dumb@$$’s trying to force their will on them) will by far be the most successful, and most sought after places to live.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:38pm@Orcuttpepa
BOTH of Rubio’s parents were legal immigrants to the USA in 1956 and legal RESIDENTS and naturalized as CITIZENS in 1975..which means they started the process in 1968 since I believe it still takes 7 years…Marco was born in 1971 after they had begun the process to become citizens.
The “natural born citizens” clause of the Constitution says that any child born to citizens, “not natural born citizens” but JUST “citizens”, becomes a “natural born citizen.” Now you can whine and Beeotch about those 4 years being the deal breaker or you can get over your RP man crush and move on….at least his parents INTENTED to become citizens…
BHO’s daddy wasn’t even a resident but a student on a visa…I will give you that one…BHO is not “natural born” but I am not going to blast Rubio because his parents got pregnant 4 years before their citizenship papers were finalized….and thus not making him “natural born.” That is just IDIOTIC!
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:36pmThe most convincing argument about Barry’s ineligibility for President was the one stating that he couldn’t be since his both parents weren’t natural born Americans. There is an old Supreme Court ruling about such case. IMHO, I believe that’s the same problem of Mr. Rubio….
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lovenfl3
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:50pmBut the realisty of the situation is, as it turned out, i certainly wasn’t a problem for Obama. Marco Rubio would be ten times the President. But the sad reaity is that in tis PC society we’re living in today, the media will definatley make it a problem for Rubio, so I hear what you’re saying. The media controls th PC message. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z85X6im-4Qs
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Seneca
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:01pmDoesn’t the fact that Obama was elected, twice, debunk the “unconstitutionality” of your argument? “Natural born citizen” is understood to mean a person who was born LEGALLY in the United States. As you well know by now, Rubio’s parents were legal residents at the time of his birth IN THE UNITED STATES. Furthermore, they both went on to become naturalized citizens. It is bigoted argumets like this that allow the mainstream media to perpetuate the fallacy that conservatives are a bunch of racist hicks.
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:04pmI think so; the lap-dog media will make a big deal for Mr. Rubio with this. I personally think that the original intention of the Founders of your country was great, trying to protect your nation from people like the Kenyan man-child. In the end, you can’t have it both ways, and I would think that the intention of the rule should be respected, even though if you have people like Mr. Rubio at hand. The fact that people like Bathhouse Barry & Co. trashed your Laws and opened the doors doesn’t mean that the good people must follow the same path. IMHO.
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:14pmSeneca,
I didn’t make the rule, so take it easy. Why don’t you go and check before opening your mouth. Read first what the Constitution says about that, then go check what the Supreme Court of your country said about that, then come here and tell us your legal arguments so why a person like the Kenyan man-child can be elected President of your country. The fact that Barry is your president now (No capital letter) doesn’t mean that he was fairly elected and neither means he was eligible…….
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:31pmSeneca,
And please, explain to me how my argument can be “bigoted”, and since you are at it, please also explain how this is related to race. Thanks in advance.
BTW: I don’t see colors, I see character. I don´t see citizenry, I see the intention of the original Law trying to avoid people without the proper roots for being President. I find perfect the fact that both parents must be born in the country. I find that brilliant and tailor made for keeping away people like the Kenyan man-child. As far as I know, Mr. Rubio SEEMS great, but, will you say the same for the daughter of Fidel Castro? (Just for the example: Supposing she was a great conservative, born in USA, with an American mother)…..I don’t think so……
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:15amThere’s no such rule. The old Supreme Court case you’re thinking of contains a passage that’s often quoted out of context by writers trying to con the ignorant into believing that Mr. Obama was legally ineligible to run. The part they like to quote goes: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” However, in the very next sentence they made it clear that it was not a settled issue that those were the only people who qualified as natural born citizens and that they were not ruling one way or the other because it had nothing to do with the case at hand: “Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
The Court in 1898 confirmed the latter position, that anyone born here was a natural born citizen, and that’s been the law of the land ever since.
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:45amThis might help:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/minor-v-happersett-revisited-2/
I think they will do whatever they want anyway (Politicians, both sides)….
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:30amThat’s a bunch of pseudo scholarly jive. There are only two kids of citizens, natural born and naturalized. If you are born a citizen then you are natural born citizen. That’s what the phrase means. You don’t need a law book to know that, you just need a dictionary. This idea that there is some mysterious newly discovered third class of citizen who was born a citizen but not born a natural born citizen exists only in crackpot blogs. No judge, elected official, law professor or other authority on the law has ever endorsed any such hogwash.
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NigelTufnel
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:36pmThe next real leaders of America are its current state governors. There are even some decent democrats in there too. If we are lucky they will swoop into congress, cabinets and the Presidency at the same time. They are the ones getting things done in America. Not the current clowns in D.C.
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Maxim Crux
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:30pmI am voting for Charlton Heston and Johnny Cash.
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WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:24pmI guarantee you when 2016 rolls around fake libetarian Beck and this site will back the establishment. If it is Rubio vs Paul. They will back Rubio. So will Hannity and the rest of Faux news. Its like a never ending barrage of half truths.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:44amBeck is a Judas Goat. That is all.
He makes wonderful noises, interviews all the right people, and in the end, he’ll end up supporting a Rubio/Christie ticket and exhorting his listeners to do so, as well.
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justangry
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:21pmRand Paul between the two, but I’m still writing in Ron Paul in 2016 if he’s still alive and kicking.
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Maxim Crux
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:25pmwait a minute…Beck and Joe Pags called Ron Paul Crazy..Crazy..Crazy…over and over and over. It was almost like propaganda.
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circleDwagons
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:32pm@JUST. Amen
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resme
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:53pmRand Paul is too Hawkish for me. I listened to his Foreign policy speech yesterday, It was “meh”. I would vote for him in 2016.
But let’s be serious in 2016 Rubio, Bush, or Chris will be the nominee.
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DRSAVAGE24
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:31pmBeck is a great propagandist, just like Rush, Hannity and Levin. Goebbels wasn’t the only one paying attention to the Wilson administration, was he? These guys all use the very Alinsky tactics they decry the left using against their favorite statist Republicans.
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LEFTIST_CLOWNS_AND_FAR_RIGHT_JOKERS
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:17pmHow many of Ron Paul’s old supporters will get behind junior after bashing him all over the internet after he supported Mitt Romney and calling him every name in the book? The only thing that makes a Ron Paul supporter happy is a little porn, a little pot, a little anti-semitism, a little paranoia a little conspiracy and a lot of whining.
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Maxim Crux
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:26pmReally
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circleDwagons
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:29pm@Lefty. Interesting question. I think most of us will wait and watch. Ron Paul is the standard.
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WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:37pmTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN
Your little trick of changing your screen name has not gone unnoticed. Neither has your all out obsession of lambasting Rands father. You seem to hate anything grassroots. The youth. And anyone who dares to hold the military and the industerial complex that supports it at a higher standered. You are without a doubt bitter and vile. I think you are someone who is more in line with Libdsey Ghram rather than the younger Paul. You and the centeral bankers you support (knowingly or not) are doing this country a tremendous dishonor.
Rommeny lost by women voters areound 56%
Minorties around 80%
Youth 65%
So me and the other millions who were offended by the GOP by there treatment of us for being RON PAUL supporters, will not forget where your heart truely resides in the cause of liberty.
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LEFTIST_CLOWNS_AND_FAR_RIGHT_JOKERS
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:39pm@MAXIM. YES… really. If you disagree, tell me where or how I’m wrong.
@CIRCLED. Ron Paul is the standard what?
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LEFTIST_CLOWNS_AND_FAR_RIGHT_JOKERS
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:50pmWAKEUPUSA2012. Are you writing to me? And if you are… anytime is a good time to lambast Ron Paul. Why does that offend you so? Is it because when Ron Paul is lambasted… you are also being lambasted for having supported him? So you take that very personally do you?
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circleDwagons
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:21pm@Lefty. Standard Great American
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LEFTIST_CLOWNS_AND_FAR_RIGHT_JOKERS
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 11:46pm@CIRCLED. Okay… if you say so. Where’s the rubic’s cube (Mecca inspired) for Ron Paul being built so all is old supporters can walk “circles” around it. Galt’s Gulch?
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CapnCrumbles32
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:26amYou hit the nail on the head! The problem with most Ron Paul supporters is that they gush over the idea of less regulation and more ‘freedom’, yet they seem to understand nothing of responsibility, dignity and honor which goes hand in hand with freedom in any stable society.
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Steelhead
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:05pmRubio has done well for an anchor baby.
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joey g
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:16pmrubio is a repukin….
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joey g
Posted on February 7, 2013 at 10:17pmcruz is the man
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:19amCubans don’t need anchor babies. A lot of them vote Republican, so they can always get in no matter who gets elected.
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