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FBI: Calif. Man Hoped to Incite ‘Civil War’ by Framing ‘Anti-Government’ Right-Wing Groups for Terror Attack

Feb. 8, 2013 5:38pm Jason Howerton

Matthew Aaron Llaneza Charged in Bomb Plot, Wanted to Frame Anti Goverment Right Wing Groups

Credit: AP

Federal agents arrested 28-year-old California native Matthew Aaron Llaneza on Friday after he allegedly attempted to detonate what he thought was a car bomb outside a Bank of America in Oakland, according to the FBI. Llaneza, a Taliban sympathizer, plotted to blame the attack on right-wing, anti-government groups in a bid to incite a “civil war.”

“Llaneza’s arrest was the culmination of an undercover operation during which he was closely monitored by the FBI’s South Bay Joint Terrorism Task Force. Unbeknownst to Llaneza, the explosive device that he allegedly attempted to use had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement and posed no threat to the public. Llaneza was charged this morning by criminal complaint with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property used in an activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce,” according to an FBI press release.

Prior to his arrest, Llaneza met with a man he thought was connected with the Taliban and the mujahidin in Afghanistan — though he was actually an undercover FBI agent. The terrorist suspect suggested carrying out an attack against a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area using a car bomb. He planned to carry out the false flag attack and make it appear as if “the responsible party was an umbrella organization for a loose collection of anti-government militias and their sympathizers.”

“Llaneza’s stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war,” the FBI release states.

According to the criminal complaint, Llaneza drove the SUV that he thought was equipped with an explosive device and parked it beneath an overhang of the bank building and he “armed” the trigger divide, a cell phone. After retreating on foot to a safe location, he placed two calls to the trigger device attached to the fake bomb. Once it was clear that he intended to successfully carry out the attack, federal agents arrested him.

The original target was reportedly a Federal Reserve building, however, Llaneza decided against it due to the strong building security. Officials did not immediate reveal if there was a specific group that he hoped to blame for the terrorist act.

Llaneza appeared in federal court in Oakland on Friday morning. If convicted of plotting to carry out the terrorist attack, he faces a maximum sentence of life in prison.

(H/T: Washington Examiner)

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shorelineliz
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:28pm
So he was a white guy who hated Blacks right? It’s all Bushes fault anyway.

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- SgtB
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03pm
  Ah, I remember the “good ole’ days” when our government used to create false flag attacks themselves. Things like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Murrah building come to mind. Our gov’t needs to be raised to the ground and our Constitution needs to be put back in its rightful place.
  
  If the guy wanted to really make it look like a right wing extremist did this, he would have gone after a gov’t target. Or maybe a place like the U.N. or “Federal Reserve”.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:17pm
  I wonder if this knows anything about Fast and Furious..?
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:29pm
  The dude kind of reminds me of an armed community organizer, don’t he?
  
  Oh my goodness, any possible correlation to one of his idols must have just been when I saw some old pictures of Obama in his military uniform.
  
  Oops! I got that wrong, didn’t I?
  
  ‘Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:32pm
  Framing conservatives, that kinda sounds like what Joe Scaborough is doing:
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/joe-scarborough-thinks-extremism-from-the-nra-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-2nd-amendment/
  
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- t00nces2
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:34pm
  Let’s hope he doesn’t have to spend the rest of his life in prison Clearly, he can be rehabilitated.
  
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- mrunner
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:55pm
  @Toon. Rehabilitated? Hell, Rat Bastard Obama will probably pardon him and make him assistant to the Secretary of State or Attorney General. As far as the community organizer and cheif is concerned- this young man has “the right stuff”!
  
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- ChiefGeorge
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:17pm
  This maybe exactly what the feds say it is, but it also could be slight of hand in that when the real false flag comes, they’ll point to this bust they made as evidence these things are going on and they can’t uncover everyone of them. Just like 911! They never saw that coming right?
  
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- DeniseJ
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:18pm
  “according to the FBI. Llaneza, a Taliban sympathizer, plotted to blame the attack on right-wing, anti-government groups in a bid to incite a “civil war.” After Fast & Furious, and then the cop on the shooting spree, doesn’t surprise me. Coincidentally in CA, where they are trying to grab citizens’ guns. How CONVENIENT. Now, who’s taking odds that he is a lone wolf engineering a nice little “Reichstag Moment”???
  
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- Taquoshi
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:34pm
  What??? He was going to use a car bomb rather than a suicide vest? Day-um. Should have suited him up anyway and then had an accident discharge in a safe place. He who lives by the bomb should die by the bomb….
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:03am
  ““Llaneza’s arrest was the culmination of an undercover operation during which he was closely monitored by the FBI’s South Bay Joint Terrorism Task Force.”
  
  It looks like marxist Obama’s teleprompter didn’t give this Progressive(commie) operation the last minute “OK”, so they had to enact plan-B … arrest the poor commie sap “just in the nick of time”.
  America safe once again.
  
  Don’t you believe it!
  They’re testing their operations before the big push into communist dictatorship:
  “DICTATORSHIP For America IMPLEMENTED!! :: Glenn Beck Named THE TRAITORS & Exposed THEIR CONSPIRACY!!”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAu_-UmERuo
  
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- RANGER1965
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 9:53am
  Here’s the real question.
  
  If the governement were to crack down, whether it be caused by a real event, or a false flag event…would the right rise up in fury? Would there be a civil war?
  
  I kinda doubt it.
  
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- Look4DBigPicture
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 10:29am
  The guy obviously doesn’t know the difference between right wing groups which promote small government and anarchists who promote NO government. What an idiot!
  
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- Al Gator
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 10:33am
  @stupidfreshnot
  
  All Rightee Then, so here we have a story about a guy trying to “frame” the tea party, and in the threads we have a numbskull waving a Gadsden flag and going on and on about the “Jewz” on a website owned by a guy who is a well known supporter of Israel and the Jewish people.
  
  Its a multi pronged attack by the tyrant and his useful idiots.
  
  Hey, Stupid Freshness, you ain’t so fresh, your methods are old and stink out loud. Go kiss the boot of your “Daddy Leader.”
  
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- AZRACISTBIGOT
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:53pm
  This guy must have been mad about that Anti Islam U tube video or something.
  I think we should ask Hillary or Susan Rice. (SARC)
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:57pm
  RANGER1965
  
  “If the governement were to crack down, whether it be caused by a real event, or a false flag event…would the right rise up in fury? Would there be a civil war?”
  
  Probably not in the instances you mentioned. But, believe me, just fighting short of all out civil war would destroy this country.
  
  All out civil wars don’t usually begin over one incident or a set of incidents occuring in a short period of time. There’s usually a lot of different things occurring at the same time which builds up to civil conflict.
  
  When the analysts speak of the possibility of civil conflict they’re not usually referring to an all out attack on the government….at least not in the beginning.
  
  For example…very briefly….an economic collapse would undoubtedly bring on austerity riots, which would probably splinter off into ethnic clashes due to a cessation of social freebies. These would be occurring across the entire country, which the government forces would try to contain without favoring oine side or the other.
  
  In the process of it all, many government military and police would be injured and killed, with many more breaking away into whatever respective group they agreed with.
  
  In short, the fighting would intensify and the entire country would explode into a chaotic mess that would be devastating economically, with supplies, power and water cut off to the urban areas.
  
  Many areas would demand secession and get it….like Texas, for example.
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 3:21pm
  @ ChiefGeorge
  That was my sentiments exactly.
  Now that this has been publicized, and the feds are the hero’s, what an opportunity for them to pull off an incident and say it was another one from this group, or the right wing took advantage of an opportunity to use the incident for their cause.
  
  Maybe it is what they say, but I personally have grown a dis-trust for the guberment, and believe Nothing they say, or do. Benghazi, fast and furious, insider trading, voter fraud, you name it. It all stinks of corruption.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on February 10, 2013 at 11:23pm
  Matthew Aaron Llaneza has a bright future in the Democrat Party alongside the likes of Bill Ayers.
  
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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:04am
  If I was a lefty that wanted to be involved in a civil war with my countrymen, I would ask myself, Do I want to trade Christians for Muslims?
  
  Clearly this tactic is being used. When you cant beat the Tea party, you must try to destroy it through propaganda techniques. Its so easy to be a progressive liberal- you just do as you wish to get what you want with no responsibilities for outcomes. What a sad existence.
  
  I am the Tea party. I am the NRA. I stand for something and am responsible for my lot in life. Try it sometime. Its liberating to be free.
  
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tothepoint
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:22pm
The lefty Socialists, Obama and his gang have convinced our enemies that, through lying and demonizing those with whom you disagree, you can start a warfare of one group against another.
We look forward to an administration in the future which does not use these tactics.

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- barber2
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:31pm
  TO: With the Obama Crowd running our country , I pray we will HAVE a future …
  
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- Marj0120
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:44pm
  Absolutely incredible, what evil lurks in the hearts of the political left, seems like they are cowards, that lie and plot in order to accomplish their goals with no regards for the lives that could be lost if successful. I hope the courts give him the maximum penalty for his crime.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:55pm
  Of course, the plot-line was supplied by the FBI…
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:24pm
  Where do the FBEYE come up with these patsy’s, is there a wating list?/? Boy they come up with some doozies just to make themselves look good eh?
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:29am
  HAHAHA!!!! you kidding me right? there are comments eluding to a civil war constantly on this page! don’t blame Obama for this guy getting that idea. just read a few comments on here.. you’ll see!
  
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- VetMike
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 9:24am
  Keaton is back with his twisted logic and strawman arguments.
  
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- katzkiner
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 5:48pm
  You want war?-Wait till 50 million EBT cards stop working. It will not be black against white, it will be the starving trying to cook the fat ones.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:10pm
  When that happens, just avoid intersections, anywhere you have to stop. Stay within your neighborhood if you can.
  
  What? It’s rational, not paranoid.
  
  When you have 10 football fields filled with 10feet of 100$ Ben Franklin legal tender as our national debt, a solution is not paranoid.
  
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Unit_of_Fire
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:21pm
Forgive my changing the subject, but I’ve been travelling and haven’t had a chance to post this question. Did I hear correctly a few weeks back that Glenn suggested overwhelming the jail system if a gun confiscation were to occur? I think I heard him make reference to some Chinese strategem.
Thanks.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:46pm
  Yes, he did.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:56pm
  Baaa. Baaaaaaaa. Yes he did. He is right about a lot, but I am not doing time for nobody. Not 5 min, not a bit of time at all. Being a free man in a sovereign state, no thanks.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:22pm
  Fubared
  You mean you don’t have a team of lawyers standing by ,
  to make sure you don’t have to take a plea deal or do time..?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:06pm
  yea, Glenn’s “hire a great lawyer” solution was a winner. Classic Beck – can be so naive sometimes
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:42pm
  SOY, I really do have to agree with you on that. I literally could not believe my ears as he was saying that. About the dumbest thing that I have ever heard him say.
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:57pm
  Yeah, something happened to our boy in the move to Texas. He went from being the raging conservative in the concrete canyons of NYC to kind of squishy.
  
  I think that he finally has that that ‘bird’s nest on the ground,” complete with “Beck’s World” or whatever the hell he’s calling it and damn sure doesn’t want to risk the farm..
  
  I feel like he doesn’t want to call for any more of those half million man rallies or Obammie will sick Holder on him for inciting riot!
  
  It’s OK, Glenn, the Oathkeepers have it covered. We’ll tell you when it’s OK to come outside.
  
  “Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:54pm
  In a normal world one might go as far as to maybe agree with that tact. However, when this regime has the right to arrest you as a terrorist, without charge or proof, and hold you incommunicado, you are screwed. NDAA….., and our dear Republicans voted yes. When your lawyer comes to talk to you, the response is, Mr. who? this is a national security issue, we have no information for you.
  
  Meanwhile, at some unknown FEMA camp, you are placed in a shower, and you sense a certain searing pain, in your lungs.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:51pm
  He has also, at one point at least, advocated Jesus/Gandhi “Non-violence” in response to Federal Tyranny and Oppression. Bizarrely similar, as a Domestic Policy, to Ron Paul’s twisted riff on Foreign Policy to justify his dissing of the Murdered Sniper. Personally, I think, and no less a light than C. S. Lewis agrees, that Pacifism is essentially Suicidal as STATE Policy, and I would further suggest that to Hold Up the Founders as a Model and then overlay Pacifism on top is a Cognitive Dissonance of Clinical Proportions. That Glenn’s head appears to be in just that spot is disturbing.
  From the Street Violence that greeted The Sugar and Currency Acts (1764), the Stamp Act (65) and the Killing Fields of Lexington and Concord was a bare decade. Washington, upon receiving the news of Lexington and Concord at Mt. Vernon, wrote to a friend: “The once happy and peaceful plains of America are now to be either drenched in blood or inhabited by slaves, sad alternative, but can a Virtuous Man hesitate in his choice?”
  Evidently Glenn thinks one can. We’ve been “hesitating” from Teddy R. and Wilson until now, over a century, and Glenn appears to be advocating Pacifism on top of even more hesitating. Or maybe we simply no longer have Virtuous Men of Washington’s Caliber of Courage.
  I think Bonheoffer made a better choice, though it Martyred him.
  
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- thegreatcarnac
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:24am
  I will not go the “pacifism route”. If you don’t either, then you must join with 4 others of like mind and make sure you have known them for a long time so they will not be government agents. You must practice your shooting skills and have a knapsack with ammo and rations. You must have pre-chosen places to meet if the crap hits the fan. You must have targets in mind to strike and retaliate if necessary.
  
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- Unit_of_Fire
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:21am
  Thanks everybody. The idea of accepting the gulag scenario just rankled. Now I wonder about his motivation for suggesting such deadly stupidity.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 10:54am
  Hoot
  Whaaa? By not complying, does not imply I will be waving my hand in a come hither posture. I sold all of my weapons last week to soy for non-hybrid weed seeds. E&E…
  
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- lusus.naturae
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 9:58pm
  Glenn aired the Waco massacre and Ruby Ridge and recommended that people should just surrender their weapons because Randy Weaver got free legal assistance. Duuuuh! Randy Weaver got great free legal assistance because he resisted and was on national and world television. The publicity drew the lawyers like blood draws sharks. When you surrender your weapons without resistance where will the media be? With no publicity, how will the sharks/ er… lawyers (my apology to sharks) even know it ever happened?
  
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:18pm
The loons will still report him as a right wing conspirator. Their viewers will be none the wiser.

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- CatB
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:46pm
  Yes .. or ignore the story altogether .. they are the biggest threat to the republic. Them and those low info voters they groom.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:54pm
  My votes on the second, GR.
  
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Mike76
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:15pm
So was the idea to try and blame acts of terror on Conservative groups the kid’s idea, or the FBI’s?

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- barber2
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:29pm
  Good question. Not that you will ever get an answer out of the FBI’s boss, the Obama Executive Branch , which is best represented by the quotes ” what difference does it make ? ” or ” we don’t know anything about anything “…..
  
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- BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03pm
  Well Mike, I’m guessing if it was the Feds idea, the kid would be without a pulse.
  
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showmerancher
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:07pm
Let’s see… We’ve got an extremist Liberal Progressive, ex-cop cop-killer running on the loose in California whose manifesto reads like left-wing talking points. Now we’ve got another extremist Liberal Progressive planning a car-bomb attack in California in order to pass false blame on conservatives. Yep, I’m sure we’re going to have more and more leftist extremists like this working hard to “impress” king Obama.

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- chips1
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:25pm
  I’ve said it before that the only difference between the cop killers manifesto in California and Obama’s manifesto is using drones.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:28pm
  And go figure —- none of what you just said is showing up ANYWHERE.
  If there had been ANY link to the Tea Party it would have been WORLDWIDE headlines
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:30pm
  I beg to differ, Chris doesn’t sound like an extreme left winger. He sounded like a left leaning libertarian.
  
  He was obviously a registered republican, since he had voted for John Huntsman in the republican primary. He just wasn’t critical of Obama, more than likely, blinded by his own version of racism.
  
  There’s only two reasons I’m not cheering this guy on.
  
  1) He killed civilians
  2) He pushed hard on the AWB
  
  Otherwise, and I read his Manifesto (or better yet his 20 Page Suicide Note) and I can almost understand why he’s doing what he’s doing. Is he crazy? Yea. Is what he’s doing illegal? Absolutely. But the LAPD, has clearly proven after shooting up innocent people as they go on a cop-killer rampage that many of the things he spoke of in his letter is more than likely just the tip of the iceburg of corruption not only in the LAPD but many police forces across the country and our own government.
  
  This man reached his tipping point. One day soon, each of you, including myself, will reach a tipping point. It’s not a matter of IF anymore, it’s a matter of WHEN.
  
  And if the LAPD can’t even handle one guy, how will they handle thousands, or hundreds of thousands?
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:31am
  how do you get liberal progressive from any of this? the guys an anarchist! plain and simple.. don’t be dragging liberals into stories they have nothing to do with!
  
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spirited
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:04pm
….and Obama-campaign is “grassroots”; like OWS.

>Oh, community organizing !

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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:20pm
  Organizing radical revolutionaries 2013: the Cloward-Piven/Ayers prescription for violence.
  
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Jacopone
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:04pm
Lock him up and throw away the key.

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Beachmastermax
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:02pm
Aaron Llaneza? What kind of a Taliban name is that? Why is he called a Taliban sympathizer instead of an American traitor? Just because some Muslim supposably delivered the explosive device? I bet he is a Marxist anarchist sympathizer.

These are the people the 2nd amendment was meant to protect us against.

So we have this and a Left wing loving former cop nut running around in SoCal, but not a word on the connection. Rush Limbaugh is the problem.

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- jman-6
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:15pm
  With all due respect what do you think muslims are? They are fascists aka one in the same.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:16pm
  BEACH: Bingo. The guy who just tried to blow up the American embassy was a Marxist. We have been Occupied by the OWS, an ” anti-capitalist” movement. They all have international ties to the Black Bloc and anarchist groups. Our Chicago radicals share a bond. Remember Bill Ayers tried to destroy American capitalism in the 60s and he is still trying ! There is much afoot and it is all Left driven. Witness Obama being droned upon America and the Far Left MSM covering and enabling the Far Left which now controls the Democrat Party.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:23pm
  @Beachmastermax
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:02pm
  
  Aaron Llaneza? What kind of a Taliban name is that? Why is he called a Taliban sympathizer instead of an American traitor? Just because some Muslim supposably delivered the explosive device? I bet he is a Marxist anarchist sympathizer.
  
  These are the people the 2nd amendment was meant to protect us against.
  
  So we have this and a Left wing loving former cop nut running around in SoCal, but not a word on the connection. Rush Limbaugh is the problem.
  ***
  But didn’t you also hear Rush today? He has the solution! If everybody would just turn in their guns, it would all go away. Kind of like we’d all “Just get along”. As another famous california victim once put it.
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:30pm
  Bwahahaha! “Rush Limbaugh is the problem.” says Max, the master of Malibu Beach. Max, Slimebaugh is precisely the opposite to Oprah Whiney. What a sucker! Slimebaugh and Whiney are social congress lubricants as AstroGlide is for sexual congress.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:40pm
  “These are the people the 2nd amendment was meant to protect us against.”
  
  No it’s not. That’s what LEO and the Military is for, to protect us.
  
  It’s when those people who we trusted to protect us end up turn on us. That is what the 2nd Amendment was meant for.
  
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- dodgedart1966
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03pm
  Beachmaster–MilMom—you do know that Rush was being sarcastic?
  The left says “With no guns, there would be no gun crime”
  By that theory, if every honest gun owner turned in their guns, all this would end. Do you believe it?
  
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:00pm
Who actually did the “PLOTTING” here?

If he was suppose to be the master mind, he would have rigged the bomb himself.

How much did the FBI push the guy into actually making reality what he wanted to do. They obviously got him the SUV and rigged it for him. So how much more instigating did the FBI do? Is it wise to be out there instigating? What if he had lost trust in the undercover and put real bombs in the SUV instead?

Maybe it’s just my almost complete distrust of the government and the FBI. Not saying this guy isn’t crazy or not accountable for thinking he was going to blow things up, but I’d like to know how much the FBI instigated him.

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- Fubared
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:17pm
  Real bombs can only be found in OWS porta jons.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:22pm
  It’s the same routine with the feds and you’d think they could do it differently just for the sake of variety.
  They find some half wit like this who can’t create his own device and put on the show for the people. To say the kid wasn’t a pro is the understatement of the century and the feds obviously coached him.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:27pm
  the mission of the FBI is to find mentally unstable people and turn them into terrorists….
  
  We used to manufacture terrorists through CIA intervention in foreign countries and subsequent blowback….But now FBI does it domestically
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:55pm
  soybomb315_II
  
  Was Dorner manufactured by the CIA or FBI? Or was he manufactured by the shills on the left?
  
  Was Timothy McVeigh manufactured by the government?
  
  So easy to say the government manufactured somebody.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:59pm
  “Prior to his arrest, Llaneza met with a man he thought was connected with the Taliban and the mujahidin in Afghanistan — though he was actually an undercover FBI agent.”
  
  Old Fashioned terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols & Johny Phillip Walker Lindh used to fly overseas to meet real terrorists before embarking on a life of terrorism.
  
  Today’s crop of terrorists want instant gratification. They don’t research & they don’t travel. They wonder why their best efforts end so lamely.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:59pm
  Yeah SOY, the FBI should have left him alone so that maybe he could approached some cartel members and eventually would have had a real bomb. Only arrest them after the damage is done. Just screw spending all those big bucks on law enforcement intel since they can’t arrest them until the deed is done, or in this case, the act. Honestly, and no I am not kidding or joking. But, do you look as dumb as you sound? You’ve baffled me all day today.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:08pm
  Walkabout
  I did not say all things are manufactured by the FBI/CIA nor did i say they have always been doing it. Not to say that the FBI/CIA has not done very bad things in the past. Are you a FBI/CIA enthusiast?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:53pm
  Okay SOY, out of respect for DARMOK’s request on another story where you and I mixed it up pretty good. I confess that I should not have posted the response that I made above. I do sincerely apologize to DARMOK.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:54pm
  @RJ
  You apparently did not read much of what i said. Your pre-conceived bias against anything that is not familiar to you blinds you once again. The re-occurring theme is that FBI uses crazy or stupid people and turns them into terrorists. You were never in any danger. But the sad thing is that people like you will see this FBI action and then be thankful that ‘someone is looking out for you’. Unknown to you, you are actually the problem because you are willing to sacrifice a little liberty for safety. You are being used
  
  http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/13263-fbi-celebrates-foiling-its-own-terror-plot-again
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:00pm
  SOY, as I promised DARMOK earlier I am cool my jets here, and this will be my final response to you this evening. My only bias to your premise is that I have read so many of your similar statements in the past that support my allegation.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:03pm
  well it is not looking good for you to read something so many times and still be so clueless
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:07pm
  Soy
  The re-occurring theme is that FBI uses crazy or stupid people and turns them into terrorists. You were never in any danger.
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  I am not buying the whole entrapment thing. How many juries of 12 people have seen how many terrorists convicted? Do you think the Lackawanna 7 are innocent? I saw to much of the activity around the Grand Central Mosque in London to know that too many Muslims hate us & this was a few years before 911.
  
  Maybe it was all the hateful flyers posted on light polls. Maybe it was their dagger eyed stare.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:43pm
  walkabout
  or you could read the article i linked to
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:59pm
Oh great – another FBI sting operation in which they pretend to be terrorists and give some crazy guy all the tools/information and then arrest him.

Ever wonder where the batman shooter got all his knowledge about weapons and bombs in his apartment? Makes you wonder

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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:07pm
  Don’t wonder..http://investmentwatchblog.com/lt-gen-w-g-boykin-warns-of-engineered-economic-collapse-and-instigated-state-of-crisis-as-pretext-for-martial-law-and-a-permanent-restructuring-of-america-into-a-marxist-dictatorship-police-state/
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:41pm
  Marxist President’s Military Exercises in These U.S. Cities; Yours One?
  February 1, 2013
  
  http://gulagbound.com/37220/list-of-many-military-exercises-on-u-s-cities-collectivist-context/comment-page-1/#comment-331011
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:00pm
  DoD training, Houston we have a problem!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owtzqY8biTU
  
  [These drills are obviously being done for affect on the populace. Soft terrorism.]
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:02pm
  ‘they’ are trying to PROVOKE – HOLD Your FIRE,,,
  
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Mineman_tate
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:56pm
You guy realize over the last 3-4 years this EXACT same scenario has been carried out in Dallas, Washington DC, New York, and Chicago?

I fear that it’s only a limited time before one of them gets what they want. Keep a wary eye, and watch your surroundings. You never know.

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:05pm
  Didn’t Obama’s buddies, Ayers and Dorn do this kind of stuff? Maybe this guy will be a future president? At least a University president?
  
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bdandsl
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pm
These people are out of control. Liberals and democrats are the party of hate!

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:59pm
  It really makes you wonder if he wasn’t just a small part of a much bigger program of violence which has been playing out non-stop since the Sandy Hook disaster massecre place. We’ve been deluged with such extreme violence since.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:11pm
  My first thought was, who was he working with? I don’t think he was a lone wolf. They say he was a Taliban sympathizer, well, where are the Taliban he was sympathizing with? Local mosques?
  
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- Mike76
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:32pm
  Careful, Mil Mom – talk like that will get you blasted as a Ron Paul/Jesse Ventura/Alex Jones nutcase false-conservative, hate-mongering, anti-Christ by Beck and his minions.
  
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MrKnowItAll
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pm
TO: Glenn…. Pat and Stu really ain’t got what it takes. As you would say….WAKE UP! Pat and Stu are ANNOYING! Stop thinking you owe them something and get some Fit, Likable people. Have some Character Gleeny. Dump Dope and Dopey.

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- Mineman_tate
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:58pm
  When did you decide the comment sections on random news stories posted and monitored by the Blaze staff? And Pat and Stu helped build the show to what it is, along with Dan and Jeffy. If you don’t like it, try the huffington post, and whitehouse.gov
  
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- SaturdaysWarrior76
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:05pm
  Ehhhhh Blehhh Blehhh Blehhhh. Bleh Bleh Bleh Bleh Bleh Bleh. Go away misterknowitall. Go away.
  
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chips1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pm
Does the trail lead back to Pelosi?

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:19pm
  @chips1
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pm
  
  Does the trail lead back to Pelosi?
  ***
  I would more likely believe big sis and the dept of homeland security. If not the cabal in the white house.
  
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Bluntobj
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pm
Apparently this is the slow class…

This guy will be outed as a “right-winger”, who was attempting to stir up his right-wing fanatical compatriots, with this attack. What is even more ironic is that the setup is a false flag attack in itself, and designed to allow enforcement and monitoring activity against “right-wingers”, as well as media villification and propaganda.

Now there will be even more excuse to apply the NDAA and other measures against “anti-government militias”, i.e. anyone critical of the government that owns a gun.

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woodyee
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:52pm
Woodyee – “We in California DO NOT NEED Taliban instigators to try and foment lawlessness between the un-Americans in the State Capitol and our citizens. We have The California State Legislature for that.”

Quote THAT in your news articles, maggots.

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barber2
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:48pm
Wonder if this guy knows the guy who supposedly made the Muhammad video …. and how much entrapment went into the making of that video ? Such a great ruse for the Benghazi mess. Isn’t it amazing that no one in the Obama Administration knew anything about anything !? Hillary didn’t know about the request for more security. And Obama never knew anything about what happened that night . What ever happened to accountability, to competence, to falling on your sword ? The Obama Crowd has gone from Blame Bush to We Don’t Know Anything ! And if it were not for their Lap Dog MSM, they would be run out of Washington with Tar and Feathers.

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TheMightyZeus
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:48pm
If not convicted, there’s no hope for the justice system.

Who wants to bet MSNBC “accidentally” gets the facts wrong and says this guy actually was a right-wing extremist?

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- Dr.Fez
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:34pm
  I’m surprised they haven’t already.
  
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SingerGuy
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:47pm
This will not be the last false flag attempt by someone to get a civil war started in America.

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- TSUNAMI_22
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:58pm
  I agree. Soon, very soon, we are all going to be saturated with false-flag events. It’s the only way to carry out an evil agenda….by the abuse of the emotional.
  
  Thank you for giving me hope that there’s still people with critical thinking abilities.
  
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ginger100
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:47pm
How truthers get started. Right on.

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Fubared
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:45pm
Dumb ass. No need for that, Cali will just legislate away, anyway. Nice soft fed pen when the chinese would bill the family for a bullet.

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The-Monk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:44pm
I wonder if he’s a big fan of LSDNC…..

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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:56pm
  I think he watches LOGO and OWN.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:09pm
  Hi Darmok,
  
  I’m not familiar with them and had to look them up.
  
  Now I wish I hadn’t…
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:43pm
  Some things you just can’t unsee.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:02pm
  I use to watch Logo. They had a series in rerun that I liked. Then I figured out what the channel was. No way I am going back there.
  
  Ditto for OWN.They are re-running “I (almost) got Away with It.” I would rather do without. Let Oprah who gave us “The One” go broke.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:13pm
  Hi MONK, and DARMOK, LOL, then I ain’t going there.
  DARMOK, got you message earlier and decided to comply and desist. Then damned if I didn’t do it again above. Sorry.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:22pm
  Hi Darmok,
  
  I remember one of the “King Of The Hill” shows where Hank walked in on his Mom and her new boyfriend on the kitchen table…… he went completely blind for a while. LOL
  
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- OldSurfRat
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:42pm
  Monk and RJJ
  
  Dont see Marybeth on here tonight. hmmmmmm???
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:57pm
  OLDSURFRAT, Yeah, I noticed that too, and I was wondering about old blurry eyed BARYMETHELIZABETH earlier too. Must be back in Detox Mansion.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKmb3_P_N8
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:13pm
  Hey RJJ:
  
  I think you spent your time in the penalty box, game on.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:15pm
  Hey Monk:
  Yeah, I love King of the Hill.
  
  “That boy ain’t right in the head”
  
  “I don’t want you going to Dallas, it’s full of criminals and druggies, and half of them play for the Cowboys”
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:40pm
  DARMOK, Thanks Bud, but I think that I will play nice with SOY for the remainder of the evening. I did promise him as well. But, there are others should they show up that I will gladly tangle with. Besides, SOY is not a bad guy, I just find him somewhat disagreeable……most of the time.
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:43pm
Taliban sympathizer = obama supporter

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- barber2
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:49pm
  Obama supporter = radical anti-capitalist or naive meat head
  
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- stopprintn
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:04pm
  Libral media spawn.
  
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- chips1
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:15pm
  Another 15 year old that qualifies to attend Berkley.
  
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toto
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:42pm
WHY is this not front page news??????? He is a terrorist, Islamist, pure and simple.

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- In the O.C.
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:47pm
  We all know why…..
  
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- 13th Imam
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:51pm
  Grammy Insanity. Just why do they call liberalism a mental disorder?
  
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- Schteveo
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:53pm
  ToTo,
  I believe you’ve answered your own question.
  
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