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Gun Confiscation Bill Proposed in California: ‘We Can Save Lives’

Feb. 8, 2013 3:35pm Jason Howerton

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Law abiding gun owners in California have to feel uneasy after Democrats rolled out a massive gun control package on Thursday, which includes strict ammunition regulations and even a bill that allows potential confiscation of the state’s 166,000 legally registered semi-automatic rifles.

Under the sweeping gun control bills introduced by state Senate Democrats, all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines would be banned, all guns would be registered and gun owners would need a special permit just to buy ammunition.

The proposals appear to be even more draconian than New York’s recent gun control legislation, considered to be the toughest in the nation.

Mercury News has more details:

The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation’s strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.

This first unified California plan comes less than a month after New York adopted its own sweeping package of new gun controls and President Barack Obama announced a package of executive actions, all in the wake of December’s Connecticut schoolhouse massacre. Even as this plan emerged Thursday, House Democrats’ gun violence task force was announcing 15 “policy principles,” including protecting Second Amendment rights but also instituting universal background checks and reinstating a federal assault weapons ban.

State Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) on Thursday defended the huge gun control package, saying “California’s tough gun laws have been exploited long enough.” He also said he respects the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to have firearms for hunting, sport and home defense.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, second from left, glances to a pair of semi-automatic rifles as he discusses a package of proposed gun control legislation at a Capitol news conference in Sacramento, Calif., Thursday, Feb. 7, 2013. Senate Democrats unveiled a package of 10 proposed laws designed to close loopholes in existing gun regulations, keep firearms and ammunition out of the hands of dangerous person and strengthen education relating to firearms and gun ownership. Also seen are Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, left, Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, third from left, San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee, second from right. Credit: AP

That being said, he believes the sweeping gun regulations will “save lives.”

“We can save lives by curbing the proliferation of guns designed to be fired and reloaded rapidly,” he said. “We can save lives by getting guns and ammunition out of the hands of the wrong people. We can save lives if every gun owner knows how to safely handle those guns. And if we can save lives, we must act to do so.”

However, pro-gun advocates argue that the bills are unconstitutional and infringe on the Second Amendment.

“[A]lmost every item in the proposal is wildly unconstitutional,” said Gene Hoffman of Redwood City, co-founder and chairman of the Calguns Foundation gun rights group. He also said the state’s overreach may “accelerate the speed at which the Supreme Court takes these ideas off the table.”

Mercury News reports other bills would also include the following regulations:

Require anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check, as Los Angeles and Sacramento already do.

Update the definition of a banned shotgun with a revolving cylinder to include the new technology of a shotgun-rifle combination.

Prevent unregulated gun loans, with some exceptions, including hunting, in order to keep weapons from those who haven’t passed background checks.

Require all handgun owners obtain a safety certificate every year, rather than the every-five-years requirement for purchases of new handguns.

Prohibit anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept and to expand the list of crimes for which convictions result in being barred from gun possession.

Let the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.

(H/T: Weasel Zippers)

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CrazyAzBiker
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:50pm
These people have all violated their oath to uphold and defend The Constitution and therefore should be hauled off to jail for violating your Rights! They should be tarred and feathered and run out of town… People of California… Do NOT give up your weapons! If you do bad bad things happen to you! You know the consequences… Remember the Soviets, Mao, Pol Pot and Cuba in our own back yard! All of them, their weapons confiscated the religion stolen. They died by the millions… how long before its you. Dont let them disarm you! Look at Chicago… do you want the whole state of California to be Chicago. Please folks speak up now or lose your right to own weapons forever for a freedom lost is usually gone forever. You dont get them back… is this what you want! Write to your congressman… city council… the mayor! Do something!

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Epic Fail
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:45pm
If it was really about saving lives, then where are the politicians lining up to do something about smoking related deaths? Over 450,000 deaths per year in the US are smoking related. Or how about the over 100,000 deaths per year in the US related to alcohol use? I don’t see the politicians lining up to do anything about that? The number of deaths per year related to semi-automatic rifles every year is a rounding error compared to the real killers. Why doesn’t someone in the media question the politicians on these facts???

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Whatmeworry-never
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:42pm
Pass all the fake laws you fools want ever hear of this:

Unconstitutional Official Acts

16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256:

The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:

The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it’s enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.

Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it…..

A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend,

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deltagreen
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:40pm
You’re from the Government? You’re here to help?
Well Mr. G-Man I can’t find my gold or my guns wanna help me look?
Try over there by the booby traps, I’ll check the other side of the house.

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TexOkie
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:38pm
“He also said he respects the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to have firearms for hunting, sport and home ”

But obviously not for defense against a government determined to control the people.

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pizzacorner
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:37pm
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the
animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask
not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which
feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams

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semihardrock
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:37pm
California, Connecticut, New York….the MOST Communist State run regimes are ALL pushing for “stricter gun confiscation LAWS” as Venezuala DEVALUES it’s currency today (AP report)…..to get OFF the US Dollar (World Currency) (foreign aid) which had EXPLODED after taken off Gold Standard (1971) and propped up other currencies all over the Globe.

IT’S COMING SOON! Be prepared!

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publicas
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:36pm
All Hail Sotero!! Long live the Sotero Empire!!

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MrKnowItAll
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:34pm
If you have Loved one’s in California. Send them a Link to the Slingshot Channel.

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foxrocks
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:33pm
If you folks in California put up with this, you are on the crazy list, and should NEVER own a gun, have ammo, or even have firecrackers………….California leadership is horrible, GET OUT!

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CommieJuice
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:32pm
Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Mussolini all showed the path to totalitarianism, now the Democrats follow the path given to them by their ancestors/teachers. With a complicit state-run media, who can stop them now?

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) bill that was written by John McCain and signed into law by 0bama, gives 0bama the power to declare American individuals or groups to be terrorist, that gives the military the right to detain those people indefinitely without trail. Sound like kook, conspiracy, Orwellian stuff? Welcome to 0bama’s America 2013! Look it up!

Now the 1st amendment to speak out is limited by the NDAA. If you protest the government you can be declared a terrorist which takes away the 7th amendment’s trail by jury, the 4th amendment’s warrant clause, the 5th amendment’s due process and 6th amendment’s speedy trail. Indefinite detention without trail also infringes on the 8th amendment’s cruel and unusual punishments. 0bamacare was upheld by John Robert’s supreme court. 0bamacare infringes on the 1st amendment’s freedom of religion unless you are muslim or Amish. The 2nd amendment that protects all the others, is now under attack with the threat of confiscation! If they take the guns away, what is left? With 0bamacare, the NDAA, a complicit media and gun confiscation, WHAT IS LEFT?

If you don’t feel that uneasy feeling that something bad is going to happen, if you don’t have the sense that America is close to the edge, then hope

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raiderbri
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:32pm
California native and I left in 1997…Trying to get the rest of the family to migrate out as well. The people of CA keep voting in politicians who think their job is to tell hard working honest people how the should conduct themselves. Then on the other side you have the ones voting them in on welfare and all the social programs available. I am done with CA and will never live there again, very sad…..

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zombieocracy
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:32pm
Welcome to Texas, you poor refugees from the repressive fascist regime.

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readyontheright
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:30pm
WELCOME TO SUNNY CALIFORNIA–A GUN FREE STATE ( Criminals welcome)

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tater515
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:25pm
Looks like CA wasn’t happy with people leaving because of their tax rates, now they’re going to drive out all the law abiding gun owners.

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IDIDBUILDTHIS
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:25pm
And here come the moving vans.

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- readyontheright
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:35pm
  hey you might be on to something…lets invest in moving vans, should do great for the next couple years. Oh wait, price of gas in Ca., environmental regs. and prop. 30–never mind… I;m out !!
  
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Whatdoesntkillyou
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:24pm
Once the melee ensues it should make for interesting reality TV. The freaks can glitter bomb and botox dart the bad guys. What a toilet.

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pavepaws
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:23pm
“We can save lives by getting guns and ammunition out of the hands of the wrong people.” So they’re disarming the gangs? Right….

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CommieJuice
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:22pm
Let them lead by example. I support this for California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota and Oregon. They should all confiscate the guns and whatever else they like, meanwhile their border states should build walls between them. The decent people can flee those police states before the walls are finished. No trading with those states, no sharing with those states, nothing to do with those states. A liberal/police state embargo from the free states in America.

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TheIggies
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:21pm
I’m so proud of my state! Go California!!

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- zombieocracy
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:37pm
  I love sarcasm! So little to be found these days!
  
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usmc1063
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:21pm
Wake up Cailfornia vote these bums out.

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DJ in AZ
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:18pm
This bill is too limited in its scope.

If they really want to save lives, they need to confiscate cars, cigarettes, alcohol, knives, clubs, tire irons, people with communicable diseases, swimming pools, and all plug-in electrical devices within a 100 ft radius of body of water or water faucet. Oh, and they need to outlaw stress, too, because stress kills.

If I missed anything, please throw that into the bill as well.

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- TheIggies
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:23pm
  When was the last time a man went into a school and drank 20+ children to death? Oh…right, never happened and never will.
  
  You’re an idiot, as is anyone that brings up the straw man “cars kill people” argument.
  
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- zombieocracy
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:43pm
  Oops! Looks like I made the wrong assumption about Theiggies. Stay where you are, please. You apparently belong.
  
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- LastAmerican
  Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:59pm
  Why don’t they start with the illegals.
  
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- DJ in AZ
  Posted on February 9, 2013 at 3:21pm
  @Theiggies – Apparently, you don’t know how alcohol works and how people using alcohol can kill other people. Study up on that first, and then we’ll talk again another time. Until then, keep learning, my friend!
  
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@Ft.Benning
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:13pm
Very disappointing to see Americans willing to propose this being done on other Americans.

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JTX
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:12pm
A guarantee none of those rifles assaulted anyone. Take note NY. Register your guns, you will loose them like CA residents are fixing to do.

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conard3
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:10pm
People with guns and/or money will just leave and leave the rest to rot in a sheithole that once used to be a great place to live. That or for the first time in 30 yrs people will vote in actual republicans to overturn this. One of these choices is possible and one is not probable.

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