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PORT MORESBY, Papua New Guinea (TheBlaze/AP) — It’s a disturbing case — one that seems improbable in the modern era. A mob stripped, tortured and bound a woman accused of witchcraft, then burned her alive in front of hundreds of horrified witnesses in a Papua New Guinea town, police said Friday. It was the latest sorcery-related killing in this South Pacific island nation.
Bystanders, including many children, watched and some took photographs of Wednesday’s brutal slaying. Grisly pictures were published on the front pages of the country’s biggest circulating newspapers, The National and Post-Courier, while the prime minister, police and diplomats condemned the killing.
In rural Papua New Guinea, witchcraft is often blamed for unexplained misfortunes. Sorcery has traditionally been countered by sorcery, but responses to allegations of witchcraft have become increasingly violent in recent years.
Kepari Leniata, a 20-year-old mother, had been accused of sorcery by relatives of a 6-year-old boy who died in the hospital the day before.

In this Wednesday, Feb. 6, 2013 photo, bystanders watch as a woman accused of witchcraft is burned alive in the Western Highlands provincial capital of Mount Hagen in Papua New Guinea. The 20-year-old mother of one, Kepari Leniata was stripped naked by several assailants, tortured with a hot iron rod, bound, doused in gasoline, then set alight on a pile of car tires and trash. (AP Photo/Post Courier) PAPUA NEW GUINEA OUT
She was tortured with a hot iron rod, bound, doused in gasoline, and then set alight on a pile of car tires and trash in the Western Highlands provincial capital of Mount Hagen, national police spokesman Dominic Kakas said.
Deputy Police Commissioner Simon Kauba on Friday blasted Mount Hagen investigators by phone for failing to make a single arrest, Kakas said.
The public were apparently not cooperating with police, and police carrying out the investigation were not working hard enough, Kakas said.
“He was very, very disappointed that there’s been no arrest made as yet,” Kakas said.
“The incident happened in broad daylight in front of hundreds of eyewitnesses and yet we haven’t picked up any suspects yet,” Kakas added.
Kakas described the victim’s husband as the “prime suspect” and said the man fled the province. Kakas said he did not know if there was a relationship between the husband and the dead boy’s family.
He said more than 50 people are suspected to have “laid a hand on the victim” and committed crimes in the mob attack. While many children had witnessed the killing, there were no child suspects, he said.
Kakas said onlookers were shocked by the brutality but were powerless to stop the mob. Police officers were also present but were outnumbered and could not save the woman, he said. There is an internal investigation underway into what action police at the scene took.
Police Commissioner Tom Kulunga described the slaying as “shocking and devilish.”
“We are in the 21st century and this is totally unacceptable,” Kulunga said in a statement.
He suggested courts be established to deal with sorcery allegations, as an alternative to villagers dispensing justice.
Prime Minister Pete O’Neill said he had instructed police to use all available manpower to bring the killers to justice.
“It is reprehensible that women, the old and the weak in our society should be targeted for alleged sorcery or wrongs that they actually have nothing to do with,” O’Neill said.
The U.S. Embassy in the national capital Port Moresby issued a statement calling for a sustained international partnership to enhance anti-gender-based violence laws throughout the Pacific.
The embassy of Australia, Papua New Guinea’s colonial ruler until independence in 1975 and now its biggest foreign aid donor, said: “We join … all reasonable Papua New Guineans in looking forward to the perpetrators being brought to justice.”
In other recent sorcery-related killings, police arrested 29 people in July last year accused of being part of a cannibal cult in Papua New Guinea’s jungle interior and charged them with the murders of seven suspected witch doctors.
Kakas could not immediately say what had become of the 29 since their first court appearances last year in the north coast province of Madang.
Police alleged the cult members ate their victims’ brains raw and made soup from their penises.
The killers allegedly believed that their victims practiced sorcery and that they had been extorting money as well as demanding sex from poor villagers for their supernatural services.
By eating witch doctors’ organs, the cult members believed they would attain supernatural powers.
Murder in punishable by death in Papua New Guinea, a poor tribal nation of 7 million people who are mostly subsistence farmers. But no one has been hanged since independence.
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dnewton
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:53amThe commonality between the historical use of execution by Christians versus non-Christians is good intentions. I am always skeptical of good intentions because of the eventual unintended consequences. The more difficult it is to see the total result of an action, the more likely it is to produce an unintended consequence. I think the failure to cooperate with the police in this matter is an open admission that the killing of this woman was wrong.
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nzkiwi
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:49pm@ Dnewton
This is Papua New Guinea and let me assure that it is a very “different” place. The rules of civilised society as we know them seldom exist beyond the city limits of Port Moresby.
For example, western contractors live in compounds protected by razor wire. I have been told that if one runs over and kills a domestic pig (which often roam freely on the roads) DO NOT stop. Drive straight to the airport. I don’t know the truth of this personally but I have several friends who have worked there (the money is very good).
One friend of mine was flying light transport planes in and out of the back blocks of PNG and was issued a pistol in case his plane went down in a place distant from civilisation. When he inquired as to what use a revolver would be is he was attacked by tribesmen, he was informed that the pistol was not for shooting other people…
There is anecdotal evidence that cannibalism is still practiced by the mountain tribes and witchcraft, as the story notes, is an accepted part of life there.
The mountains of PNG are a true primal wilderness that is very far removed from our polite and ordered society.
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Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:53amALL: A Witch! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
ALL: She looks like one.
BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I am not a witch.
BEDEVERE: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
ALL: We didn’t, we didn’t!
WITCH: This is not my nose, It is a false one.
BEDEVERE (takes her nose off): Well?
FIRST VILLAGER: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE: The nose?
FIRST VILLAGER: And the hat. But she is a witch.
…
BEDEVERE: Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
ALL: There are? Tell up. What are they, wise Sir Bedevere?
BEDEVERE: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
ALL: Burn them.
BEDEVERE: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
FOURTH VILLAGER: Wood?
BEDEVERE: So why do witches burn?
SECOND VILLAGER: Because they’re made of wood?
BEDEVERE: Good.
ALL: I see. Yes, of course.
BEDEVERE: So how can we tell if she is made of wood?
FIRST VILLAGER: Make a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE: Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
ALL: Ah, yes. Of course. Um. Err.
BEDEVERE: Does wood sink in water?
ALL: No, no. It floats. Throw her in the pond. Tie weights on her. To the pond.
BEDEVERE: Wait. Wait. Tell me, what also floats on water?
ALL: Bread? No, no, no. Apples. Gravy. Very small rocks.
ARTHUR: A duck.
BEDEVERE: Exactly.
…
BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
-”Monty Python And The Holy Grail” (1975)
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trurl
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:24pmBefore I even scrolled down to the comments I said to myself someone will figure out a way to blame this on Christians or involve Christianity in some way even though there is nothing whatsoever linking Christianity to this horrific event. In fact the article points out that in this region “sorcery has traditionally been countered with sorcery”. The Christophobes didn’t disappoint…first comment I read!
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Centurian
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 4:21pm@DNEWTON:
Nice how you decided to place Christianity somewhere in the posting. I am sure that the Muslims don’t hurt any of their prisoners.
And I am very sure that atheist ran countries like Russia, China, Laos, and others, have NEVER done anything as atrocious as what Christianity has done.
In conclusion: please don’t show your ignorance and hatred of Christianity is such a blatant manner. It’s embarrassing…
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decendentof56
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 6:22pmHundreds witnessed it? No. they were all looking the other way, just like in the ghettos here.
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paulsavage1
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 12:58pmThen are we to assume that if the folks had cooperated with the police the killing would have been correct?
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NogodNojesus
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 7:03pmI had no idea the pee party was in the south pacific.
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woodyee
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:27amI guess if you want to eat in Papau New Guinea, you first go hunting with the index finger…
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Jim S
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:46pm,,savages ! Who do they think they are ?..Salem residents !…
The following is the list of the 12 persons who were executed for witchcraft in New England before 1692, when 24 other persons were executed at Salem, whose names are well known. It is possible that the list is not complete ; but I have included all of which I have any knowledge, and with such details as to names and dates as could be ascertained : — 1647, — “Woman of Windsor,” Connecticut (name unknown)[later identified as Alice Young], at Hartford. 1648, — Margaret Jones, of Charlestown, at Boston. 1648,— Mary Johnson, at Hartford. 1650? — Henry Lake’s wife, of Dorchester. 1650?—Mrs. Kendall, of Cambridge. 1651, — Mary Parsons, of Springfield, at Boston. 1651, — Goodwife Bassett, at Fairfield, Conn. 1653,—Goodwife Knap, at Hartford. 1656, — Ann Hibbins, at Boston. 1662, — Goodman Greensmith, at Hartford. 1662,— Goodwife Greensmith, at Hartford. 1688,— Goody Glover, at Boston.”[8]
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YourVoiceMatters
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:18amSounds more like suspicion fueled by ignorance…
not some Christian response to witchcraft!….
Witches come into churches all the time!
When they come to Churches who are living the gospel…
witches Usually flee or get saved by the Gospel message!
(they do not get burned alive with gasoline, humiliated, and tortured! No need!)
The only fire that touches and changes even witches is the fire and power of the Holy Spirit…. Christianity is not a religion ~ it is a relationship with the Creator God
by and through His Son, Jesus the Christ and the Holy Spirit
revealed by the Word of the ever living God!….
If you go to a church that is “religious” and leaves out parts of the Word
that is christianism: a form of godliness but denying the power of God!
Which stacks them up just like every other religion on the planet!
It is very easy to tell the real from the counterfeit
it’s the love shown to ANY (even witches) who come through their door
and the changed lives of those who do come through the same door!
Jesus is the door…He is the way, the truth, and the life!
No man(kind) comes to the Heavenly Father but by Him(Jesus) and
the Holy Spirit draw them!
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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:25amSoo true!
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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:45amSpeaking of Fires – the Valley of Hinnom at Jerusalem , one of the Three Ancient River Valleys, is Where one of the most wicked tribes in history threw infants into a furnace.
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jeanr
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:25amSo, are you saying that witches DO exist, it’s just that Africa deals with them the wrong way?
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iampraying4u
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:48amGod said there would be days like this
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Elena2010
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:01pmJean — Papua New Guinea is not in Africa. IT’s in the South Pacific just north of Australia. Not all of the residents are Christian or muslim, for that matter. These folks practiced head hunting and cannibalism before the British put an end to it and not that long ago. I suspect those practices are still alive up in the hills.
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YourVoiceMatters
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:01pm“So, are you saying that witches DO exist, it’s just that Africa deals with them the wrong way?”
Yes JEANR witches do exist in Africa, in Europe, in Canada, in the USA . Probably other places as well.
Evil exists and there are those who relish in it or are trapped in it…or fear it!
You get free of it when that which is stronger expels it! Or protects you from it!
That being the Holy Spirit and the living Word of God is stronger.
Many have gotten free of it and live very changed lives…
People attack what they fear because they do not know how to get away and
are afraid it will harm them…Natural man always attacks what it fears
because they know in themselves they are no match for it…
when these people attacked this woman
the fear vanished when they had what they felt was enough in #’s to overpower
what they perceived as a witch! (That which i feared came upon me)
So the mob was to them safety in numbers.
BUT was the woman a witch? or was she a victim of ignorance? or suspicion? FEAR?
One thing is for sure there was an absence of Truth ~ their actions confirmed it!
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 1:13pmJust in case there has been any confusion by the above conversation, let me just make it clear…there is no such things as witches. Just in case any kids happen to be on here…sheesh
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ToddH
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:48pmAre these witches you speak of the kind of witches that have magic powers and can curse people by burning black candles and sticking needles into dolls? Or are these witches just those people who we would normally use the B word to describe but instead are replacing that B with a W since it is considered more sinful to use the direct point word than to drum up mass hysteria over the horrible evil powers of other mere mortals on this planet?
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rickfromthecape
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:28pmWell said! The Salem witch trials had nothing to do with Christ or Christianity, and everything to do with religion, and superstition.
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jeanr
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:22pmELENA-Thanks for the clarification. I got Guinea and Papua New Guinea mixed up.
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Jadedfate
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:26pmFunny, I know plenty of practicing witches that have been in many churches…never ran away and certainly didn’t get converted.
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NogodNojesus
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 7:06pmYou and your religion are so full of crap.
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piper60
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:52amSouth African witchcraft is impossible to prove or disprove- once the hysteria starts, it can be both specific and immune to disproof. A witch can be accused of imprisoning the souls of her victims in kitchen cabinets. But opening an enmity cabinet proves nothing, one way or the other. All in all. tossing a witch in the mill pond to see if she floats was a more logical test.
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Ron Staiger
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:18amMichelle, Hillary, and Nancy Pelosi had better stay out of New Guinea
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rlimike
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:56amNow that’s funny ……
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:15pmLordy how yo righties hate smart women.
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P8TR10T
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:11amThis is EXACTLY the reason why I carry a gun at all times. Mob mentality can happen and happens quickly.
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DeavonReye
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:01amWhat does superstition look like? THIS is what superstition looks like. It ends up with a mob and a woman who suffered extreme pain before dying horribly. It’s what happens when you have uneducated and brutal [sub] humans who react without relevant evidence.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:06amI have friends who are missionaries over there. There are still cannibals and head hunters in Papau New Guinea. This is no surprise.
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DeavonReye
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:53amTrue. No surprise. In these underdeveloped countries, you will be more likely to find such absurdities as this. I DO have to wonder what religion the instigators were. I know of other accounts of christians [in another 3rd world country] who took passages from Leviticus too far and killed “witches” there, too.
It comes down to the superstition of the area. If people are uneducated on these types of subjects, people will suffer, regardless of whatever their religious backing may be.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:40amNow that we have seen how uncivilized these people are…..lets import them and make our kids go to school with their kids…….it is the American way…(sarcasm).
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ToddH
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 2:51pmI’m surprised you beat the liberal press to that suggestion.
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searching for the Truth
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:32amGod’s expression for the burning of the ” Tares,” is meant for the Endtime. Jesus said to leave the tares among the wheat until the harvest .Mainly, but not only, because to rip out the tares before the Harvest caused damage to the Wheat. And, the harvest , in respect to Christianity, is when the “tares,” and the Wheat meet their Final End. Jesus, as well as all the Apostles cast out demons ( actually, satanic spirits ) from people possessed by them ; He did not burn them with fire; in addition, God was so Merciful that when He cast out legion from a tormented man and let them enter into a herd of swine. There are no instances where Jesus or His Disciples burned or killed anyone or perpetrated a physical crime. Man, instead, takes this upon themselves by letting satan whisper in their ears; and it tells them to blame the killings on God. But, when one fools with witchcraft ( rebellion against God ) then one invites the destroyer ( satan/ angels ) into one’s lives. I could write a book on this topic. Cultures in a few more areas of the World blame Christianity on this merciless practice of ” Burning of witches; ” however, their true intent is more at revenge , which God also forbids.
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bikerdogred1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:29amBlacks,muslims and Islanders act all the same and they seem to be proud of it.
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rickfromthecape
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:26pmI’m a Bruins fan, but I would NEVER accuse the Islanders of that!
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:16pmPapua is 96% christian, hon
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huey6367
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:52amMob mentality
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piper60
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:27amRemember this. Remember this when our streets erupt in violence.
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Chaotic_Calm
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:50amJTEAGLE: So, let me get this right. You can assume that all Christians will burn someone at the stake because they may be affiliated/claim/assumed to be connected to witchcraft? Apparently I didn’t get that memo. I’ll have to get my pitchfork, gasoline container and angry face ready.
I agree that crimes against humanity have always happened – some of those crimes have been at the hands of self-proclaimed Christians (Salem witch trials, all the pagan temples and pagan priests that were destroyed during the 1-6th centuries, etc.) – that’s just the ugly truth. It’s not like we can erase history to try and prove a point. However, to lump all Christians together because of an act of some? Well, wouldn’t that just be ignorant?
I wouldn’t assume that you would do the same as other agnostic people. I suppose I have a hard time understanding why, if you don’t agree with someone’s beliefs, you would assume the worst of them. I don’t agree with your beliefs, but for all I know – you’re an okay person. You may have hidden bodies in your backyard and/or pleasure yourself while you watch farm animals…I have no clue. But, I’m not going to assume these things just because you’re a self-proclaimed agnostic.
I think it’s absolutely horrible what happened to this young mother. Does that make me an oxymoron? This would be your opening to say ‘no, just a moron’. Although, that would make you a moron too, unless you think it’s wonderful what happened to her, we actually
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:05amChaotic…I think what happened to this woman is terrible. I can’t imagine what going through something like that must be like. I don’t bash all Christains either. However, a lot of the “Christains” who post on here certainly don’t use many Christ like words or thoughts when posting.
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:06am“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
-Steven Weinberg
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:22amDOORS, Steven Weinberg? LOL, brilliant man but I swear the character Dr Sheldon Cooper is based partially on this guy. But, Weinberg does already have his Nobel Prize.
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Pecos1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:29amChaotic, careful there. Revisionists are trying to do exactly what you said couldn’t be done.
Perception, Jesus hates religion as well, if you got to know Him, you would find you really like Him.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:05am@PECOS1
Thank you! That’s what I’m always saying. Jesus hates religion. It was the religious crowd that killed Him. Christianity is NOT a religion, it is a relationship. If you came to my church, you were hear my preacher tell to stay far away from religion because it’s sends more people to hell than anything else.
BTW, the whole Salem witch thing lasted about 3 weeks and a stop was put to it by….. Christians. Oh, and since The Crucible was supposed to be an allegory to McCarthyism, there’s something else everyone needs to know. In McCarthy’s case, they actually were witches (communists) and it has been proven. Case closed. But, I digress…..
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ltb
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:24amJTeagle, I rarely see Christians being rude in online forums without first being provoked by atheists. True, when people spat on, beat and insulted Christ, he stood there and took it, but meekness is probably the most difficult Christ-like characteristic that any Christian can seek. Here’s my suggestion to atheists: If you want Christians to treat you with respect, try treating Christians with respect and stop visiting forums where Christians hang out just so you can taunt and insult them.
BTW, what these people did in Papua cannot be justified by the Bible. The Bible says “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7), so allowing fear to drive you to burn someone alive goes completely against what God would have us do. Those people in Papua need to read their Bibles.
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Chaotic_Calm
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:34amJTEAGLE: I understand. Anger can get the best of anyone; Christian, Agnostic, Atheist, Pagan, or whatever. Myself, included. A true Christian believes in Christ – but they’re still human (no walking on water, no turning water into wine…although, I would love to have that ability!). And, with that, comes human emotions. It may be tamed at times and other times it may get the best of us. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but because you’re agnostic, you have no set standards on which to hold yourself (other than your own). If so, that’s very convenient. As a Christian, I am held to my own standards AS WELL AS the standards that you set for me.
I do agree that there are too many people that are self-proclaimed Christians that will speak hate and judgment. On the same hand, there are also those that claim to believe in “nothing”…I’ve seen some of them just as angry and hateful…but who can we say they’re supposed to act like? It’s not like I can make the argument of “You’re not saying very agnostic-y things”.
PECOS: – I know. Truly sad to try and rewrite history just so it can be repeated and eventually rewritten again. A vicious cycle. I don’t like everything that has happened in the past, but I am willing to learn from it. If it’s rewritten, what do we have to learn from?
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Chaotic_Calm
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:42amSQUIDVETOHIO: I was merely using the Salem Witch Trials as an example. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe it was longer than 3 weeks. In 1688, Goody Glover was hanged for bewitching 2 kids (can’t remember their names now). Four years later, in 1692, the last person was killed (I can’t remember how he died, but it wasn’t at the gallows). Finally, at the beginning of 1693 the remaining prisoners being held on witchcraft charges were released. If I’m mistaken, please let me know.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:17pmChaotic… I know you’re not asking for nor do you need my approval but I appreciate your calm well thought out comments. You’re the type of Christian I have respect for. We can agree to disagree and still be civil.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:23pmLTB…what about Exodus 22:18. “Thou shalt not suffer a.witch to live”?
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Pecos1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:32pm@SquidVetOhio, I am a Squid Vet as well, though I am a SandSquid vet. (OIF/OEF)
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:22pm@PECOS1
Hoo-rah! I was a brown shoe.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:29pm@CHAOTIC
Sorry, I mis-spoke. I said 3 weeks. It was closer to 3 months. The very first trial of the Salem “witches” was ordered by Governor William Phipps, on May 27, 1692.
Based on such spectral and other ‘evidence’, 18 people were executed.
In October 1692, execution on the basis of spectral evidence was prohibited. Soon Governor Phipps stopped arrests and executions, as his own wife was suspected of witchcraft. In fact, many witches were released for the lack of evidence. On October 29, 1692, the court of Oyer and Terminer was suspended. This was replaced by the Superior Court of Judicature that convicted only 3 from the 56 accused. In May 1693, all accused witches were pardoned and released from prison. There were however, several victims of the Salem witch trials. The trials forced 1 person to death, and led to the execution of 19 witches. 200 people were accused, and several lost their lives in prison.
“Witches” in Salem were not burned at the stake as is the common myth. This was a practice in Britain, while in North America, it was considered felony and punishable by death, which was conducted in the form of hanging.
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ltb
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:34pmJTeagle, What you think you’re doing is using the law to condemn those people in Papua, but what you’re actually doing in the sight of God is judging yourself (Romans 2:1-3). The law was given to the world to make us realize how corrupt we are, so when you condemn the people who murdered the alleged witch, you are acknowledging that you understand such things are wrong. In other words, you have admitted that you know the difference between right and wrong. Since we all do wrong, including yourself, when you go before God to be judged you won’t be able to say, “But I didn’t know I was a sinner,” because clearly you know enough about sin to point it out when other people sin. That being the case, you are without excuse when you, yourself, sin. My suggestion to you is that you don’t go before God after you die without a Savior. The good news is that God gave us a Savior and his name is Jesus (Romans 10:13).
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Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? (Romans 2:1-3).
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:43amHmmm…and people wonder why athiests/agnostics find it so important to inform people about reality. Now, I will go back to the story about the guy who quit his job because he got a piece of paper with a number on it(666).
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DiRT
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:42amSecular Humanists have never, ever, ever, done horrible things in the name of science. Ever. Don’t try to Google it. Nope. Never happens. Ever. Nothing to see here. It’s only religion. And obviously, It’s only ever true believers and not ever people who use religion falsely to control others. Nope. Not once. Don’t search Bing for it. You won’t find it. Move along now. Move along.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:10amDOORS,
Perhaps you should look up the story about how your atheist friends would capture aborigines and lock them up in cages at State fairs and display them as the missing link just about 100 years ago.
Pol Pot – Atheist. Just sayin… Lest you forget.
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rickfromthecape
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmStalin…atheist….just sayin’
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Jadedfate
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:33pmThe difference is, it wasn’t for Atheism that they did those things. Bad people will do bad things. No matter what. But some twisted stuff has gone down in the name of God that probably would not have if people weren’t so blinded by faith in nonsense.
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tmbell87
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:32pm@Dirt,
Simply saying that atheist, secularists, communists, etc racked up a higher body count is not an excuse for the atrocities committed in the name of religion. I’m sure if Caligula, Moses, Nebuchadnezzar, Genghis Khan, etc had the access to the weapon and technology we have today, then their death tolls would have been much higher. Also, estimates from historical data of the known world at that time would show a higher percentage of people killed than in the atrocities of the mid-20th century.
Instead of this tit-for-tat, score keeping crap everybody is trying to pull, why can’t we simply agree that killing is wrong? Besides, none of these characters above will compare to what many Christians believe that god has in store for us if you believe Revelations. What frightens me is not so much that people believe it is true and will happen, but that they WANT it to happen. They wait in earnestness, for 1/2 of the world’s population to be slaughtered (approx. 3.5 billion people) so that the prophecies can be fulfilled. Even if it was true, why would anyone wish for such a thing?
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vaman
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:39amIt wasn’t too long ago in U.S. history christians were burning witches. All extreme religion is wrong.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:17amThe whole Salem witch thing lasted about 3 weeks and a stop was put to it by….. Christians.
Learn some history. There are stupid, wicked people in every group. Thankfully, Atheists have never done anything evil.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:42pmCorrection. 4 months.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:09pm3 weeks?
Stop yer killing me.
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moreteaplease
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:32amjteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:36am
Well, Obama says he’s a Christain, and I believe him, but I try not to hold that against him. Nobody’s perfect.
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Except for you when you are blindly bashing Christianity…right? Well, if it makes you feel any better, Obama is not a Christian; doesn’t matter what he says he is. His words and actions prove otherwise
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:39amI hope you’re right. Don’t need my leader talking to an imaginary friend.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:30amMy father fought on New Guinea with the Americal Division. He told me that the natives hated the Japanese so much they would bring in the heads to prove they had killed the Japanese.
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qualityrkc
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:12amthis is one of a million reasons why I am an agnostic.
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Gonzo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:35amBecause there is evil in the world, you doubt the existence of God?
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:48amI assume it’s because there is no evidence for the existence of God. Also, seeing what people do because they believe in the supernatural frightens people who live in reality. Anything is possible with god…literally
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:23am“I assume it’s because there is no evidence for the existence of God.”
There’s about 4 billion people who would disagree with you and thousands of miles of property that is legally observed as belonging to a god of some type. Not to mention the millions of people in history who died because they refused to renounce their belief in one.
There’s also the archaeological and historical corroboration of the Bible.
But, you’re right. Other than that, there’s not much evidence. Everybody is stupid except you.
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Locked
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:49am@Squid
No offense, but you just used some extremely poor reasoning for “evidence.”
“There’s about 4 billion people who would disagree with you”
Appealing to the masses is a logical fallacy. Even if every human thought the sun revolved around the earth, it wouldn’t be true.
“and thousands of miles of property that is legally observed as belonging to a god of some type.”
The property belongs to religious people or is claimed for a god of some type. Even if we claimed the North Pole is where Santa workshop is located, it doesn’t prove Santa is real.
“Not to mention the millions of people in history who died because they refused to renounce their belief in one.”
Also a fallacy. Joseph Smith died for his belief in Mormonism. As a non-Mormon Christian, I don’t find his martyrdom as convincing evidence that the Book of Mormon is true.
“There’s also the archaeological and historical corroboration of the Bible.”
But not the supernatural parts of it. There are stories about the virgin birth of Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great is said to have been the son of a Greek god… both of those figures are accepted as historical, but stories of their supernatural origins aren’t believed.
@Doors is correct – there is no scientific evidence for God. The supernatural is, by definition, beyond natural means of testing. That’s why we have faith – if we had “proof,” then faith would not be necessary.
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OBummer the Great
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:03amJTEAGLE, gotta love the atheists who think they hung the moon, right? The only thing worse than a violent Christian is……what for it……a non believer in anything. Only an atheists can look at the 3-5% of Christians and use that example to trash the other 95% I’m more than sure JTEAGLE is the kind of guy who protests an elementary school nativity scene or at least he dreams of being that productive. And with his 2006 census data comment he proves to the world that he knows how to Google. We all know that everything on the Internet is so completely true.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:10amSo, I’m guessing you have stats that refute what I said.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:39amJTEAGLE, Do you have any statistics to back up your bashing of ALL Christians?
Naturally, you don’t and can never provide any such thing. You can find historical writings that do illustrate some of what you say, but I can provide even more evidence of what secular societies and governments have done. Having lived in Tampa back in the ’70s I met a number of Cuban refugees who risked their lives and family’s lives to escape Castro. A few years later my Army unit deployed to The Keys for the Mariel Boat Lift where I met many, many more Cubans who were escaping a secular and overly oppressive government that jailed and murdered many of it’s citizens. During three tours in Europe I met survivors of WWII, many who escaped East Germany, Czechoslovakia, and even Russia. More secular governments that murdered far too many. Then we can look at Red China, North Korea and these are simply the secular governments that murdered millions in the 20th century.
Okay, even before you try to say it, Adolph Hitler was born into a Catholic family. But, he was never known as an adult to have ever been a practicing Catholic or any other sort of Christian religion.
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:51amHe didn’t use historical writings, he cited a census done in 2000 of Papau New Guinea you dolt.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:02amRJJ…so as a Christain, all you strive for is to be just a bit better than some of the worst secular examples from history? I would think you would aim much higher.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:07amDOORS, That has nothing to do with what I asked him to provide. I caught the mention of the census below, but as J.T. EAGLE is requesting OBUMMER THE GREAT to provide stats to back up his statements, I would also ask him to provide statistics to back up his pasting statements regarding all Christians.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:12amObummer…I get it…you guys are so clever.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:18amJ.T. EAGLE,
“RJJ…so as a Christain, all you strive for is to be just a bit better than some of the worst secular examples from history? I would think you would aim much higher.”
Where in the world did you get such an idea? You’ve reduced yourself even further by making up BS. Your mind is twisted to the point that you obvious hatred truly shows. Even though you have already attempted to deny that hatred. Think about it, you came here and started tossing your castigating statements and it is obvious that you did so to irritate people here. So, don’t tell us a lie and that you did not do that intentionally.
BTW, we do aim to be far better than you secularists.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:27amJ.T. EAGLE, I merely copied and pasted his site name above. Me personally, I always refer to the president as 0bama.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:35amRJJ…I do have to admit that I love getting you guys fired up. It’s fun and easy. This is the best comedy site on the internet. Some of the best comedy is often not intentional.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:47amJ.T. EAGLE, Then, keep it up while you can. You’ll eventually burn yourself out here.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:52amHow so RJJ?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:19amJ.T. EAGLE, It won’t be because I will ever complain, but I just expect you do that to yourself eventually. Just a hunch.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:26am@ RJJ
“Cast not your peals before swine.”
- Jesus
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:27amSQUIDVETOHIO, I’ll assume that you meant “pearls” but you are right.
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DLV
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 12:21pmjteagle- if you find comedy here you are a troll with a miserable life. Seriously you need some help. You don’t see me go to some atheist site or ultra liberal site and start commenting why. I have a life and some dignity. I guess you don’t.
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Gonzo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:38amNot all cultures are created equal…despite what the left will tell you.
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:52amTrue…but religion and superstition sure does try to equalize them in crazy
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Thighmaster
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:33amIsn’t that a skull far right center of the picture ?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:41amAt first glance I thought it might be too, but it appears to large especially to be a human skull. Must be a rock or some sort of garbage.
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:21amI’d say that those boys are setting themselves up as targets for Obammie’s drones!
Oops! That won’t happen, will it?
“Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
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Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:07amAnd yet another shining example of a ‘dark’ race’s triumphant march into the twenty-first century. You people are cursed; go back to the jungle and cook your grandmother.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:18amUm…yeah, they’re only a few hundred years behind us in doing this you racist pr!ck.
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nomemymine
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:31amPlease don’t post negative comments like this. Why should we create more reasons for liberal attacks on Conservatives ?
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:07amThis sounds like something some of you religious kooks that regularly post on here would do.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:31amJTEAGLE, Yeah, not like secular societies have ever done anything like this….well, other than some of the largest mass murders during the 20th century.
BTW, the character you have in your avatar constantly claims to be Christian, as Jay Carney often tells us during his pressers.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:36amWell, Obama says he’s a Christain, and I believe him, but I try not to hold that against him. Nobody’s perfect.
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battles
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:42amYour hatred for God is showing. There has not been any people of faith doing this kind of thing. It actually is people from your godless side of the aisle that do these horrors.
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biohazard23
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:44amGood morning, RJ!
Please don’t feed the troll. I know she loves coming here for the attention, but just don’t encourage her. She really needs to seek validation elsewhere, bless her little heart. I’m sure with proper therapy, she might be able to let go of whatever demons she’s dealing with and learn to be happy and content instead of so… icky and trollish.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:50amJTEAGLE, How true. That goes for secularists, and it would also include you. Go spread your hate somewhere else, or stick to your online poker.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:52amBattles..I can’t hate something I don’t believe in, and if you’re saying that “Christains” never burned people, you couldn’t be more wrong.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:55amBIOHAZARD, Couldn’t help myself with this fool. She? Do you by any chance know her?
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:55amRJJ…I do like online poker. How did you know? You play? Not sure what that has to do with anything we’re discussing here, but whatever.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:02amRJJ…Boihazard has no real argument or anything meaningful to add, so he or she think’s it’s cute to call me a she. Pretty sad when all you can come up with is that, but I expect nothing more from all of you Conservative “Christains”. Name calling is what you do best.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:10amJTEAGLE, No, I don’t. You are an open book and made yourself that way by using the same site name on multiple sites. Run your name through your search engine.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:17amBIOHAZARD, LOL. I guess its okay for you to say that. But, if said it out loud around here my wife might just say or do something.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:26amUm…this is the only site I use that name on. Lots of people on the interwebs. Some of them might have chosen that name too.
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biohazard23
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:27amRJ, ha ha ha!!! I see your point. And why is it that trolls are always so touchy? They’re a mighty sensitive lot, aren’t they?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:54amBIOHAZARD, LOL, yeah very touchy, see his post above yours. I already struck a nerve.
JTEAGLE, Funny how I pegged your online poker playing right off the bat. Yeah, I’m sure others use that site name too, but probably not as much as you. There is a guy in China who uses it too. Your reaction tells me even more about you.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:19pmNo they are more industrialized.
They shove people into ovens.
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03amDoes than mean we will have to invade them now?
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03amMadness beyond belief.
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Magyar
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:15amPapua New Guinea is Islamic–just another example of the religion of peace doing peaceful work…God save us from the evil in men’s hearts…………
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:19amYeah because Christains never did this. Oh wait, they did…a lot.
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jteagle
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:26amOh, and according to the 2000 Census, 96% of people in Papau New Guinea identify as…wait for it…Christains.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:13pmPapua is 96% Christian.
You rubes just love to make things up
and hope you won’t be challenged
Google.
You’re already ON a computer – AS IS EVERYONE ELSE!
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Jadedfate
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:24pmYup, does say that you shall not suffer a witch to live in your bible there. Burning witches is a very christian thing to do…
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jackact
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:03amBig deal.
They were doing worse than this in Massachusetts 400 years ago.
In fact they are doing worse than this in Massachusetts today.
:(
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