‘I Have the Right to Refuse Service’: Restaurant Owner Turns Away Group After He Learns What They Advocate
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An Arkansas-based gay right’s organization is claiming discrimination after the owner of a restaurant cancelled the group’s reservations.
“It was a bump in the road, but it wasn’t a slap in the face,” River Valley Equality Center Director Erin Fowler tells ABC 4029, explaining that they had hoped to host a fundraiser at the restaurant.
Fowler claims Sisters Gourmet Bistro in Van Buren, Ark., cancelled their reservations after its owner discovered what the group stood for.
“I called them and told them that I — we’re not going to have that at Sisters, we had no plans for that and there were no reservations to hold any kind of fundraiser or anything like that,” said owner Richard Hodo.
“I told them that I do not support their cause, that if they want to do that that’s their business. I do not care, but I don’t support their lifestyle and their cause,” he added.
Hodo told an organizer with the River Valley Equality Center that he runs a private business and that he reserves the right to deny any group or person service — whether that means saying “no” to white supremacists or a gay rights group.
“What I told the lady on the on the phone, look I said if the KKK came here and wanted to hold a fundraiser rally and all that, I wouldn’t allow that either,” said Hodo.
“It felt like he was comparing us as equals with the KKK and we’re about completely opposite things,” said Sarah Sarrubbo, an organizer with the River Valley Equality Center.
Hodo says he refuses to back down.
“This is a private club and I have the right to refuse service to anyone,” he said.
The River Valley Equality Center says that because of this incident, and the dent it has put their fundraising efforts, they will stage an βawareness eventβ nearby.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:31pmNo pun intended Cavallo 4:22, (under Squidvet 4:16) but…PENETRATING!
Nicely done.
The-Monk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmMANBLA will be trying to get reservations nextβ¦
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:46pmGood morning MONK. I think they would get the same reception unless they misrepresented themselves.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:47pmno doubt Padre, no doubt.
That’s the problem with “my perversion my choice”. Once one has erased lines, on what basis does one draw them elsewhere?
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Jake Dog2
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:48pmTrue monk. A person has to draw the line somewhere
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:02pmIf you can’t see the difference between a loving, conceptual couple and preying on children, there really is no hope for you.
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The-Monk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:08pmMorning RJJ,
The coffee sure tastes good this morning. They’re out at work (3 days now) so I left a little note for them;
“Can’t find coffee….. operator halted”
LOL
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TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:16pmThe 2 groups are equal in that Hodo doesn’t agree with them and doesn’t want their business. FREE COUNTRY!
Time for everyone to put on their adult pants and “move on”!
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EBR
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:24pmHarryPotter, if you don’t know the difference between conceptual and consensual then perhaps you’re defending the wrong concept.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:31pmEbr:
Sorry, writing on my phone and autocorrect takes over. But my point still stands.
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Fubared
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:33pmNathan’s hot dog shack seems good for the lgblt crowd. Take home takes on a new meaning. Doggie bag for two.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:40pmlol EBR…
Consensual couples that aren’t conceptual.
Didn’t Obama have a “conceptual” girlfriend in his bio?
oh wait… that was a “composite” girlfriend.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:56pmMONK, LOL on that note. I’m afraid that I worked your hours now I would have a zip lock bag full tucked in a jacket pocket for just such emergencies. And, I do declare that would be an emergency.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:04pmIgnore Harrypotter he works for Organizing for america and only makes minimum wage.
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The-Monk
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:51pmHi RJJ,
They don’t have a regular coffee maker. They have one of those that take the little plastic cups that are sealed and just get tossed in the trash after being used.
I’m just going to bring a large mug of home brewed with me from now on.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:57pmAs much as I support the homosexual community to be who they are and fight for their cause, as free Americans, I also believe that the root of all of our rights are property rights.
Whether it’s ownership of your mind and body, to ownership of physical locations, any independent business owner in America should have the right to refuse service to anyone.
Note: INDEPENDENT BUSINESS OWNERS.
If you provide even a quasi-government service or receive tax payer funding, there can be no discrimination. They paid their taxes, which in turn paid for your business. It’s the price you pay for selling your soul to the devil (government).
However, any independent business owner has the right to refuse service and to refuse to exchange in a transaction with anyone he chooses. The owner will lose out on their cash and as long as he’s willing to lose on that, then they have every right to make that business decision.
I always said, I’d rather know. If the government forces this restaurant to serve them, what’s stopping them from fowling up your food (spit, dirt, semen?). I’d rather know if the owner hasn’t people like me, why would I want to spend my money on someone that hates me.
There are plenty of restaurants, pick another one. Or make your own! The beauty of freedom in America!
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:16pmCivil:
LOL. I love it when someone can’t refute your point and resorts to name calling. Please either join the grown ups at this discussion or find the kids table
American:
I happen to agree from a legal stance, so longs as it is equal. As in you can discriminate against gays, the KKK, or Christians equally. And that does seem to be the case here. I see no legal problems with this, just moral problems.
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Fubared
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:28pmHarryPooter
Did you mean a lack of morals? Have you ever had the Dan Savage treatment?
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:59pmFubared:
Dan Savage can be too abrasive and dismissive of religion and other people’s beliefs. But the amazing work he has done for gay rights stands out so much more. The “It Gets Better” project helps innumerable gay youths every day. It shows them that they have allies out there and that they can actually live a happy and fulfilling life.
Have you ever seen the way some so-called “Christians” treat gays? I have seen and heard young gays called absolutely terrible names, threatened with violence, treated like they were somehow lower beings than other people. Dan Savage may have his flaws, but maybe you should take a look into your own group first….
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:03pmThis is what you must know:
Shreveport restaurant refuses service to Muslims . . .yippee!
Oregon baker refuses to bake a cake for gay couple . . .yippee!
This restaurant refuses service to an LGBT group . . . yippee?
Bistro refuses service to Tennessee state senator and homophobe Stacey Campfield . . .THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously. Life without conviction or principle – the Tea Party Way.
It is so.
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guntotinsquaw
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:40pm@Sensei..guess I can say to you, it’s a ******* way to lie! And I shall now quote Sarah Sarrubbo and then you tell me which is the truthful statement.
“On Sunday, February 3, the River Valley Equality Center was in the Southwest Times Record. Our picture from our Awareness Day last Saturday was put in the paper along with the mention of our Benefit that is coming up February 16 (it was to be held at Sisters Bistro, and had been being planned since December). Monday morning our fundraising coordinator for the River Valley Equality Center had a message from Sisters Bistro stating that they were unaware we were having a live band and comedians at the event so they were cancelling it. We had been in contact with and actively planning this event for months, the management was well aware of exactly who we are and what we had planned for this event. They even offered to create a special drink to be sold at the benefit for us.
I contacted Sisters Bistro on Monday and spoke with the owner. He stated that he was not going to hold our benefit at his restuarant, he stated that he was embarrassed that his name was in the paper with our LGBT group.”
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:37pmYa gotta wonder how much the owner position is standing up for his beliefs and how much he’s just protecting his base business. Generally these issues are decided on what choice makes the owner the most money: a one time profit for this group against the longer term consequences for his business.
He may believe he’ll lose loyal customers, his base business customers, and perhaps future customers if he takes this one time profit from a gay group. He may reason that he’s got more to lose than to gain from new business from people who are gay or who heard about the event and appreciate his tolerance.
Or he may just be anti-gay.
I’ll be honest with you. I’d respect the guy more if his real motivation is that he simply does not want to support any LGBT cause than if he’s simply making a cold, hard financial decision. Even if I disagree with a person’s values, I respect a person who is governed by their values more than one who is governed by the “love of money.”
He may believe that in the long run his business
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scarydave
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 11:57pmI wish I lived closer to his restaurant so i could throw some business his way. Owner Richard Hodo is a class act in my book. Discrimination has nothing to do with personal sexual habits!
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:22amScarydave:
Sexual orientation is different from sexual practices. Sexual orientation refers to the gender(s) you are attracted to, and sexual practices are how you have sex. And keeping out a group based on sexual orientation, which no one has control over, is by definition discrimination.
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redfish52
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:12amIf it was my place I would have told them they would have to rent the place for the whole day as I would not subject those opposed to their agenda to have to sit and eat at the same time. I would have also charged them $20,000.
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Bohump
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 8:37amEverybody, … Back this owner,… He is standing up for his Right,s, .. and your own !
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saveamericafromthestupids
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 9:33amIn my opinion, I think its time for this restaurant to be boycotted!! I pray that the awareness rally is successful!
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Jim S
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:04pm..please remember this when Glenn and family are refused service for what he advocates..that whole goose-gander thing might prop up…so if you own something,a business for example,you can refuse to sell it to anybody based on their politics?…like Current TV owners declining to accept Glenn’s offer?..cool..glad to see people are returning to respecting private property rights and choice in America..been missing a while !..there is still hope !
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encinom
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:47pmArkansas, the land of bigots, where hatred is the State religion. From Little Rock to this resturant, the tradition of ignorance and continues.
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 7:50pmThere’s a difference between serving a couple customers that happen to be gay and hosting an event for them. I don’t own a restaurant, but I do run a business. I don’t care who I sell my products to… however, I wouldn’t do a custom design that I disagreed with.
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Al Gator
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 8:08pmThe First Amendment protects the RIGHT OF ASSOCIATION, which conversely is a right to DISASSOCIATE.
I have a right to associate with only those of my choosing.
If I don’t want to ASSOCIATE with you, that is my right.
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guntotinsquaw
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 8:29pm@Encinom, I am sure glad you brought up Little Rock and the racism. We are trying to correct the racism in the state. We are getting a good start, we fired the Demorats and put the state into Repub and Libertarian hands for the first time since..the end of the civil war. And we finally got the lawsuit paid off because Bill Clinton refused desegregate Pulaski County schools. Apparently his wealthy donors didn’t want minorities in school with their kids. So the federal courts slapped the state with a fine every year, which we paid the whole time Ol’ Billy was in office.
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ThriCeSLewis
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 8:33pmHarryPotter: I dont mean to be rude in doing so, but I suppose it is on its face – you said to Civil that they shouldn’t be name calling, but you went on to call them a child. Tolerance is self-defeating when inclusivists exclude exclusionists. Just sayin…
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BayuzhiZERO
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 6:32amWhat some of you are failing to comprehend is that any business in this country reserves the right to refuse service to ANYONE for ANY REASON or NO REASON AT ALL.
Don’t like it? Tough. Quit bawling like a bunch of weepy 12 year old girls at a Twilight film showing. This is the real world, where your FEELINGS don’t matter a damn.
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jowettusmc
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 9:11amSince the government has given the green light to homosexual relationships, they mistakenly believe that everyone condones their philosophy. They are living in a democratic/homosexual bubble and can’t believe there are still people opposed to their lifestyle. It doesn’t bother me, but obviously it does still bother some regular people and some business owners. Reality check.
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zman173rd
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 10:57am@ The Big Mick
” Thatβs the problem with βmy perversion my choiceβ. Once one has erased lines, on what basis does one draw them elsewhere?” It’s divide and conquer. If a nation has no soul it’s much easier to subvert. Next wil be lowering the “age of Consent” to anyone who “feels” their rights are being infringed. Then men can chase boys and grils alike. I just found out the Age of Consent in Montana is 16 for a girl. My daughter is thirteen and still a child in my eyes. Three years won’t make that much difference for her to become sexually active. They keep slicing away at the morals in our society.
The business in this article will soon be picketed and he’ll have to close his doors. First they will sneak in, order and eat, then announce to all they they are Homosexual (sorry but Gay and Lesbian names are used to make them more acceptable to society) then pull some media trick and it goes on from there. Would you cross a **** picket line to eat when they will call you and your family homophobes etc? The door are closing on a once great nation.
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TrueAmerican1775
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 1:43pmI wouldn’t let any left wing political group into my place of business wouldn’t matter if they were Gay or Straight if they lean left they need to leave America to the Americans.
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Mulder1
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 3:57pmAny businsess owner should have the right to refuse any customer for any reason.
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Freelyn
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 7:11pm@Jim S – If you actually bothered to listen to Glenn he has said multiple times that he has been refused service as certain businesses and he respects their right to do so. In fact he thanks them and takes his business elsewhere. While I personally find it amazing that a business would reject an individual for their stances on issues, I don’t find the same to be true of groups. I can understand a business rejecting a group with an agenda holding a meeting/rally at their business that they don’t agree with or feel would misrepresent their business or personal values.
This is a right of any business to refuse service. While I also respect their right to do so to an individual as well, I simply find it hard to believe that a single person or family who is acting in a civil manner would cause the business to feel their values might be misrepresented.
I’m also certain that next we’ll hear how refusing the service lifestyle groups is the same thing as refusing to serve someone because of the color of their skin.
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Locked
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:30pmArkansas doesn’t have laws forbidding discrimination of service based on sexual orientation. Sorry to the group, but they’re out of luck!
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missdagnytaggart
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:12pmI wonder if they’ll get sued like the cake baker in Oregon?
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:14pmYou’re right. It seems that legally there is no case here. But morally, the store owner is way off base….
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:25pmNo he isn’t. Once you let one group in, you have to let other groups in. Then you are open for discrimination. The lady could not understand this idea.
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toiletclogga
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:32pmI believe he did not want to have their group fund raiser at the restaurant. That is alot different than denying them service as individuals. I’m sure that if anybody in that group as an individual would like to dine at the restaurant, they would be allowed. Allowing the group would put out the appearance they condone what the group stood for. Kudos for the owner.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:36pmSorry, but denying a group access for being gay, and helping others come to terms with being gay, is wrong. Discrimination, plain and simple. And frankly, but allowing them to use the space, he is not approving of anything. I would let the KKK and whoever else use the space. I get the money, and a good story down the line. Doesn’t mean I condone their beliefs.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:48pmMr. Potter….
I’ve worked in the restaurant business…
Who you let into your establishment has an effect on your other customers.
You’d risk losing your regulars to let the KKK party there one time? you’re nuts.
We were always struggling to keep extreme cliques at bay. You let a few bikers in one night and three weeks later you’re a “biker bar” if you don’t watch out.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:57pmEast:
You make a valid point, I have never owner or worked in a restaurant, so I am no expert. But it would seem to me that if you made your policy clear that you do not condone or validate any group using the space, there shouldn’t be a problem. Anyway, it would seem like barring the gay group would cause far more controversy, as it makes you look intolerant of gay people (which it sounds like the owner is). So unless your primary clientele is homophobic bigots, this doesn’t seem like a smart move.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:14pmMaybe, but other people would see that you DO. You don’t know much about running a business, do ou?
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 6:15pmHARRY….
Most people, even those that support gay rights, are ****-phobic- especially men.
Not too many straight dudes feel comfortable going to gay bars…. If i were a restaurant owner, i’d be extremely discriminatory about what groups i let hold events there….
PS: The Italian place i worked at once booted a “Swingers Club” because their group kept growing month after month.. & eventually became the majority on a Tuesday night. Once they were the majority in the place, they started to publicly kiss, etc….It was bad news. We lost a lot of customers.
Restaurants are a tough way to make money… nobody wants to deny any paying customers but balancing regular customers (bread & butter) with high-profit events (cash cows) is tricky stuff.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:10pmIn America, I believe we have the right to discriminate. I own the business. I own the land. I own the building and I pay the bills. Just like my house. If I have the right to say who can enter my house, then I have the right to say who can enter my business.
Both are my personal property. Are their consequences? Sure. They might picket or boycott your restaurant, and convince enough other people to boycott your restaurant. That’s their right to do as well. Just like many here say they stopped shopping at Dicks since they announced no more AR15′s. You have the right to boycott that business, and they will determine if that loss of revenue was worth standing on certain beliefs.
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conard3
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:21pmNo Harry, the owner isn’t off base. If he allowed any or all groups to run a fund-raiser from his shop, he is linked to support for that group. Other people who don’t agree with that group may stop going there because of that. It’s common sense. It is a fund-raiser not a good old get together.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:23pmI wouldn’t argue that this restaurant shouldn’t have the right to discriminate like this, but it is still wrong. I wouldn’t expect the deep south to ever miss an opportunity to show it’s ignorance
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:27pmAnonymous:
Other people would see that I do…. What? Not sure what you’re trying to say here.
East:
I completely understand your point about business, and you are probably right. But I still disagree that barring the gay group will be better for their business, unless of course they cater only to homophobic bigots, like I said before. As to most straight people being homophobic, that is not true. There is a big distinction between an irrational hatred of gay people, and feeling a little uncomfortable being the only straight guy in a gay bar. I would feel uncomfortable being the only white guy at a NAACP meeting, but that doesn’t mean I’m racist. I would feel uncomfortable being at a lesbian bar too, but that doesn’t mean I’m homophobic. The distinctions here are important.
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JoanneMM
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:19pmHarryPotter:
I would feel uncomfortable being the only white guy at a NAACP meeting, but that doesnβt mean Iβm racist. I would feel uncomfortable being at a lesbian bar too, but that doesnβt mean Iβm homophobic. The distinctions here are important.
The destinctions ARE important.
Same goes for me as a woman at a NAACP meeting or in a Lesbian Bar. I’d be uncomfortable as well. But you’re taking not “Condoning” being Gay as discriminating or Homophobic. Not condoning doesn’t mean not loving. Haven’t you ever heard of Tough Love?
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guntotinsquaw
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:28pm@Missy..not in my neck of the woods they won’t be suing. Van Buren is Crawford County. A little history about my county. I live in a town that has 1 restaurant, 1 bank, 1 barber and a plumber and there are 24 churches. Not much different in the rest of the towns in Crawford county, which has a total pop of 64,000 people and most of them don’t have neighbors! That’s were the jury will be coming from. Guess I’ll be out to counter the “awareness” of this upstart and get it through her head. He owns the cottonpickin’ business and he said NO!
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Baerlin
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:28pmFreedomlover – Kinda like the east and west coast intolerance towards those who hold to the truths of the Bible. We all have our rights and are allowed to voice our beliefs. Have them find another place to hold their soiree.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:48pmBAERLIN – Please understand when you discriminate against gay people because of “the truths” of your Bible, you sound like someone discriminating against non-magicians because of “the truths” of Harry Potter. There really is no excuse for such ignorant behavior
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carbonyes
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:54pm@HARRYPOTTER & FREEDOM_US
In the first place if you happen to be a believer in Jesus Christ, which obviously neither of you are, then you can not condone nor accept the homosexual lifestyle. It is condemned by God and those who practice the same will also be condemned. Is that judging? Absolutely, and that by the Word of God. With God the way you live is judged by His Word. It is not multiple choice. Choose to disobey the Word of God and you can count on not making it into the Kingdom of God.
The US of A has been making it a point to spit in the face of God. For that there is a judgement upon the land – one reason why the Imposter-in-Chief is now president and doing his damnedest to destroy this once great nation. Continue to promote gay marriage, abortion and the other aberrant lifestyles and murderous practices and observe the continual decline and destruction of America. Not opinion – fact.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:57pmJoanne:
I thought I defined homophobic differently in my last post….. Anyway, how do you link tough love and homosexuality? Are you saying we should shun all gay peoe until they lie and pretend to be straight? Tough love doesn’t work form something a person has no control over. Not to mention something that is perfectly normal and healthy, just like heterosexuality.
Baerlin:
When exactly did an east or west coast restaurant refuse a Christian group meeting? You do have a right to your own beliefs, and this group will need to find another location, but you can’t pretend that this is anything other than discrimination.
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Baerlin
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:01pmFreedomlover – Thanks for proving my point by calling me ignorant. I have my beliefs and am allowed to voice them. Taking the Bible to the level of harry potter shows that you have no understanding. I suggest you go back to hogsworths and work on that diploma. I won’t bow to the political correctness anymore. The Bible is the Truth. Homosexuality is a moral sin.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 9:24pm‘Not to mention something that is perfectly normal and healthy, just like heterosexuality.’
…back up your assertion with (proven) medical fact…
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:05pmCARBONYES – Love how you can, on the one hand preach religious freedom, and on the other hand force all of society to obey the laws of your religion. It’s one thing if people were tlking about making your church do the wedding (no one is), but to ban it for EVERYONE is just plain wrong and Un-American.
BAERLYN – Your god is a real jerk for making gay people, then telling them to act naturally will cause them to spend eternity in agonizing torture. You should really consider that maybe it’s complete BS.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:20pmCarbonyes:
What did Jesus say about homosexuality? Oh yeah, absolutely nothing! And if you want to judge homosexuals based on the Bible, then you must also be just as opposed to those eating shellfish, wearing nylon, working on Sundays, etc which the Bible forbids in the same manners as homosexuality. And you cannot tell me that God is personally against homosexuality unless he has spoken to you personally. The Bible was written by man, and even it if was inspired by God, man held the pen, so the book is not infallible or the exact word of God.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:26pmThegrtdcptn:
Not sure how you are supposed to prove something is normal and healthy with medical studies. But let’s try it the other way around. Give me the proof the heterosexuality is normal and healthy. Anything you give me for heterosexuals can be equally applied to homosexuals. We are equal, whether or not you are willing to admit it.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:02am‘What did Jesus say about homosexuality?’
1 Corinthians 6:9 ‘Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?…Do not be deceived…Neither the…
sexually immoral…
nor idolaters…
nor adulterers…
nor male prostitutes…
nor homosexual offenders…
nor effeminate…
nor abusers of themselves with mankind…
neither sexual molesters…
neither males lying down with males…
nor those who make women of themselves…
nor any who are guilty of unnatural crime…
neither whoremongers…
nor sodomites…
‘then you must also be just as opposed to those eating shellfish, wearing nylon, working on Sundays’
It is clear that you do not understand ‘The Law of Moses’ vs ‘The Age of Grace’…
‘The Bible was written by man, and even it if was inspired by God, man held the pen, so the book is not infallible or the exact word of God.’
It always amuses me that it’s okay to believe anything written or said by man…
EXCEPT when it applies to God’s word, the Bible…
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:12am‘But letβs try it the other way around.’
I responded to your post but apparently ‘the blaze’ does not approve of the truth…
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katzkiner
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:14amYou let the gays in next they will be running chains in the restroom. Bikers run huge tabs.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:19amTHEGRTDCPTN:
Hmmmmmmm…I wasn’t aware that 1 Corinthians quoted Jesus. Wait a minute, it doesn’t! Looks like we figured out who really needs a Bible lesson here. Jesus said NOTHING about homosexuality. And if you are going to put your whole focus on that one verse in the New Testament that mentions homosexuality, shouldn’t you also be fighting against divorce? Adultery is mentioned many more times, and yet you still seem to adore men like Newt Gingrich, who has divorced and remarried several times. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
And why would you say we believe anything written by man? You are missing a fundamental aspect of history! You examine the texts, compare them to other texts, discuss the possible biases and political motivations of the author, look at when it was written, cross check with material evidence, look at weather pattern from the time, drought conditions and population levels, and consider it all together to determine how reliable it is, and how much can be trusted. The problem is, when you try to look rationally at the Bible (or other holy texts), believers scream that every word is accurate. If you point out something that is at odds with everything else known about that time and culture, they say that the Bible is infallible, and that everything else is wrong. The Bible is just a series of books, and the historicity is frankly not that reliable.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:38am‘Jesus said NOTHING about homosexuality.’
I’ve heard this argument before…I disagree…
‘Adultery is mentioned many more times, and yet you still seem to adore men like Newt Gingrich, who has divorced and remarried several times. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.’
Really…?! Is that why adultery is #3 on the list in my post…?! I in no way condoned adultery, and your assumption that I adore men like Newt Gingrich is a stretch, as if you have any authority to speak for me, talk about hypocritical.
You are free to live as you wish, I am not responsible for your choices…
Nor am I responsible for your sin(s)…
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 3:07amTHEGRTDCPTN:
LOL! How can you “disagree” on what Jesus said in the Bible? Especially since you seem pretty steadfast and sure that the Bible is 100% accurate and infallible. You, like many others on the Blaze, seem to think you can pick and choose which Bible verses to follow, or at least pick which Bible verses to ignore or chastise others about. You are right up front screaming about immorality when a homosexual surfaces, but you keep quiet when you see a man on his third wife. I don’t mind you having beliefs, or even considering homosexuality immoral, I just don’t like how you tend to single out homosexuals.
And I would agree with your live and let live sentiment. You are not responsible for what you consider to be my sins (homosexuality), and I am not responsible you what I consider your sins (discrimination, presumptive judgement, failing to love your neighbor and treat him like yourself).
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Kalshion
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 5:06am@HarryPotter
Amused truly by some of your responses, you DO know what ‘phobic’ means right? You seem to enjoy using Homophobic yet clearly don’t know what phobic means. Phobic refers to the ‘Fear of’, in this case – Fear of Gays. However, those who don’t agree or do not like Gays are hardly fearful of them, they just don’t approve of what they do.
So, perhaps you best use something else to describe these people. Because Homophobic is not the right word (then again, considering how much the left-wingers have been abusing that word, much like how they abuse the race card, it will soon have little meaning)
Let me clue you in on something; the LGBT movement wasn’t so heavily opposed three years ago until the movement got hijacked and is now currently being used to ‘force’ businesses (like churches, or private businesses) to accept their choices. One example is that some states are attempting to force churches to accept Gays and also require them to marry Gays as well.
You want people to start accepting gays again and to not treat them so unfairly? Then how about YOU start telling these gay groups to stop trying to force THEIR lifestyle, their choices, on everyone else.. because I can gurrantee*sp* you that it WILL backfire.
As a business owner, I have a right to deny service to anyone no matter the reason. As a customer, I have a right ‘not’ to do business with someone for any reason. That’s what it means to live in a free society, freedom of choice.
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tajloc
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 10:43amFrom an earlier Harry potter Have you ever seen the way some so-called βChristiansβ treat gays? It is so sad that the true Christian (Biblical) position on gays can not seem to be expressed. Make no mistake since I say I am Christian everyone reading this thinks I am a homophobe.
Yet very few churches would turn away a gay. And we don’t care about the Nature vs Nurture arguement.
We hate the sexual sin. The Bible is clear on the subject (NT and OT). Which is worse committing adultry in your mind (porn) or acting on your Homosexual preferences….NEITHER. Both are an abomination unto a just God (He is loving but also just)
Don’t pray for Justice ‘cuz you might get it.
Rom 8:28
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:11pm‘presumptive judgement’
Since you excel at speaking for others, let’s add judgement to your list of sins, shall we…?! Personally, your whole post is ridiculous…pick and choose, blah blah blah…ignore or chastise, blah blah blah…up front screaming, blah blah blah…keep quiet, blah blah blah…single out, blah blah blah…
I haven’t picked, chastised, screamed, kept quiet, nor singled out ONE sin, I simply responded to two of YOUR posts while all you do is point your crooked finger of blame. Here is what I addressed…
1 βNot to mention something that is perfectly normal and healthy, just like heterosexuality.β
2 “What did Jesus say about homosexuality?”
You can’t even have an honest debate without judging, Proof…?! YOU go on to assume my sins…’what I consider your sins (discrimination, presumptive judgement, failing to love your neighbor and treat him like yourself)…’
You excel at projection, but none of it matters, quite simply, while you can only assume, I have chosen to acknowledge my sin, not continue living in sin.
‘How can you βdisagreeβ on what Jesus said in the Bible?’
It’s your job to understand Jesus, a task you can’t be bothered with…
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The Jewish Avenger
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:32pmEast:
I agree with these agruments fully:
And it is truly a “crap-shoot regarding these fund raisers…
Gays offended that they wont have their fund raiser? Boo hoo, dont go!!!
When Christians are shamed by the establishment they dont go back.
And they tell their grown up kids and sisters and brothers and quietly… There is a For Sale sign 3 months later.
When a gay is offended, they rally and demand that the press of the local, state and national MSM tells everyone… Forces a public shaming ritual AND forces a legislative act that is NONE OF THEIR ##$^#$^ #^#$ BUSINESS into MAKING them accept this group, order, action that was refused and in turn, forces the establishment to shut down to the gay groups delight and then puts up a progay business in its place that laughingly, gets ZERO BUSINESS in the end (pun intended) because no one what to do business with a sore loser bully!
/rant.
P.S. I have no problems with homosexual but I am sick and tired of the special treatment they get and then have militant gays use it as a weapon against citizens.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 1:54pm@THE JEWISH AVENGER
I love the blind hypocrisy of both sides when it comes to garbage like this.
I love the “militant gays” argument.
When one side is ignorant and refuses service, the other side says “DISCRIMINATION!” and threatens a boycott. The offending side says “LIBERTY! FREEDOM TO SERVE OR NOT SERVE!” and organizes an childish “appreciation day” to draw more sheep to the stores to buy a product or service that they don’t really need.
Then the other side is ignorant and refuses service and it starts all over again.
People are dumb and seem to be driven by this childish nonsense. I don’t buy or refuse to buy something based on my viewpoints on life.
Get a life people.
For instance, I think the person that refuses to go to Chick Fil A because of their stance is just as silly and moronic as the person who goes out of their way to support chick fil a because of their stance.
If you like the food and it sounds good, go eat it. If you don’t like the food, don’t eat it. Plain and simple.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:34pmKalshion:
Haha. You amuse me too! Yes, a phobia is a fear. Arachnophobia is a fear of spiders. But look up the word homophobia in the dictionary. “Irrational aversion to or discrimination against homosexuals”. That is just the first one I found when I looked. But I will say that some of you on this site seem to have an actual fear of gays, that we are going to break I to your houses at night, and steal your wedding rings or something, lol. But yes, homophobic fits many of these comments and commenters perfectly
As for the “new” opposition to the gay rights movement, I take it then, that 4 years ago you were advocating for gay civil unions, and anti-discrimination laws. No, and in fact, I have noticed more acceptance and support for gay rights lately, as more straight people fight for us, realizing that we are not yet equal. They recognize this as the civil rights of our generation and want to be on the right side.
And how are we forcing our lifestyle on you? Are we forcing you to watch Bravo? Are we forcing you to have a gay wedding? Are we forcing you to go to gay bars, Pride parades? Are we trying to make you be gay? No. You are trying to force your lifestyle down our throats! You are trying to keep us from marrying, to keep us from being who we are. We will stop shoving our homosexuality down your throat when you stop shoving your heterosexuality down our throats.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:53pmTajloc:
Sure there are a couple obscure verses in the Bible about homosexuality, but I don’t consider the Bible to be infallible (how could it be?). I take the Bible as a message of love, and match that with the logic in my head and the emotion in my heart. I find it impossible to believe that God would make me gay, and intend for me to live my life alone, not sharing my love with someone else. If I am wrong, I will have to answer to God. If you are wrong, and he has always wanted you to accept and love your gay brothers and sisters and treat them equally, with respect, you will answer to Him. (PS, from your reasoned comment, I don’t think you are homophobic, but so many people are on here. I do think you are misguided on this issue though).
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 3:11pmThegrtdcbtn:
I have not judged you anymore than you have judged me. I have simply responded to your time and message in your earlier comments. You have referenced this 2 points of mine, and failed to make a reasonable argument opposing them, and you have also indirectly called me a sinner for being gay. All of my points from my last post, and even earlier posts are still valid and you have yet to present any real argument against them. If you want to ignore reason and logic, that is your right, but please do not insinuate that you alone have the correct interpretation of the Bible and God’s mind. Especially when you directly contradict the gospels. If you are trying to understand Jesus, and you don’t see a message about loving everyone, and accepting everyone, then you are missing his whole message.
Still, you are right. I have assumed too much about you. I apologize. I just felt that you were judging me, and opposing gays having equality. I truly do not know you, or what is in your mind, if I was mistaken, I am sorry. I was also trying to get my point across. For we all are created equal, but far too many people on here seem to be determined to avoid equality.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 11:38pmHarrypotter – Your side doesn’t have any morals and your side whines that you can’t legislate morality. And there’s no scientific evidence that you were born homosexual and people don’t have to associate with homosexuals if they don’t want to. I don’t know where Jesus said to accept everybody or to be tolerant of sin.
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Strange_Paradox
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 11:07amMaybe the owner should have allowed them to hold their fundraiser and let the KKK hold one at the same time….voila – no discrimination.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 5:15pmGit:
We certainly do have morals. They are just not your morals. We believe in inclusiveness, not discriminating for something a person cannot change, and certainly respect for everyone. Apparently, some of you do not find these things to be morals. You are perfectly entitled to think me a sinner for bring gay, but it seems to me that any loving deity would have no problem with 2 people who love each other, whatever gender they are. The discrimination, hatred, and self-righteousness found on sites like these, seems like a much worse crime than love.
And there is actually quite a lot of scientific evidence that homosexuality is an inborn trait. I could cite several studies, but you would likely discount them immediately as being political or lies or whatever. So I challenge you to perform a study yourself: Go to all the gay people you know, go to a gay pride event, go and ask all the gay people you can if they had a choice with their sexual orientation. That would be a scientific study, and I can guarantee that you would find that being gay is not a choice.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:46pmHarrypotter – Tolerance and diversity are the opposite of moral.
And you didn’t provide any scientific evidence of homosexuality being born that way.
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Balthazor
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:29pmI’m sure the “awareness event” that’s planned to be held nearby won’t bear any resemblance to bullying whatsoever.
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00100111
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmLOL. An “awareness event”. Sweetie, we’re aware of you. We don’t care. Dude has a right to refuse service to anyone at any time for any reason, period. Go find another restaurant. I’d say the same thing if it were a 2nd amendment group that wanted to host a fundraiser at a restaurant and they got booted. Private property rights trump your cause, little girl.
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chips1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:40pmThey don’t need an :awareness event”. In fact, neither does the muslim brotherhood. We are already aware of them. Know your evil minions.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:29pmCHIPS – So gay people living their lives and demanding their rights makes them your enemy?
To all the anti-gay bigots on here: grow up. You really have to be braindead to think that people choose to be gay. Religion is a choice: you choose to be a Christian, or whatever. Who you are sexually attracted to is not. If two adults want to be happy together and seek their fair rights owed to them, why the hell would you stand in their way?
Why would you oppose people you will never interact with get married? Someone make a cogent argument as to how this would in any way affect your lives…
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:48pmFreedomhater – If anybody needs to grow up, that would be anti-religious bigots like you. You have NO right to lecture us on tolerance and then you get to pick and choose who to be tolerant of.
And there’s no scientific evidence that someone is born homosexual.
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Leerm
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:28pm“It felt like he was comparing us as equals with the KKK and weβre about completely opposite things,β Really, you use the same method to get what you want. Intimidation, threats, harrasment, same same.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmi wonder if the KKK is just as offended for being compared to Lesbians?
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CatB
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmYes .. just like the NBPP .. and others who are feeling emboldened with BHO.
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BlueStarMom
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:57pmThey may be about opposite things but their tactics are the same. Ironic, isn’t it. Wonder if they’ll be burning rainbows on the restaurants lawn?
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chips1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:05pmI’ve tried since High School to join the Lesbians, but they descriminate. Shameful, I tell you!!!
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:35pmlol CHIPS… me ,too! i had so much in common with them…. application DENIED!
Though a couple of the girls i dated ended up joining their club…
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Coredestroy
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pmEASTINFECTION: Cracked me up!
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:31pmYou are actively denying them civil rights, such as marriage rights. They are fighting back against you. They don’t want to take any rights from you, they want the same right you have.
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Truthmongering
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:38pmKnowing members of the River Valley Equality Center and having observed their Awareness Days, I can tell you that no part of their actions remotely resemble bullying, harassment, or intimidation.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:50pmHatemonger – Apparently you Marxists don’t consider forcing businesses to cater to groups of people you approve of to be bullying. The owner can pick and choose who he wants to serve and you need to grow up and get over it.
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:28pmDont get shoved around my a minority group thats goes agauinst God and decnt values
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glennpatstu
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:41pmWhat about a group that goes against proper grammar and spelling?
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Alorian
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:53pmThank you @Glennpatstu
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chips1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:58pmMONK made a mistake also in his post. HaHaHa!!
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:25pmYour God is a real d!ck for creating gay people, then telling them they’re wrong for who they are. I doubt you know a thing about decent values. The anti-gay haters are the 1960′s racists of today.
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Baerlin
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 8:50pmFreedomlover – You should read the Bible. God didn’t create homos. Man sinned and is now following the desires of his sinful nature. This is unnatural and everyone knows that. Being homosexual is a choice. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise. Why do you think that the rates of suicide and addiction are so high in this group of people? They call themselves “gay” but were is the happiness?
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:11pmBAERLIN – Homosexuality is a choice? Are you kidding me? What bubble do you live in? People do not choose who they are sexually attracted to. They have high suicide rates because people like you create an atmosphere of cruelty and intolerance toward them for being who they naturally are. Or your kind somehow convinces them that something is wrong with them and needs to be fixed, but they cannot fix it because it’s not possible.
Give stupid people like you a book written by a backward civilization in the bronze age and this is the cr*p we have to deal with. No one discriminates against Christians; we just aren’t taking this BS anymore. A bigot with a bible is still a bigot.
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Carrie3570
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 12:31pmAbsolutely being gay is a choice!
Ever known anyone that wasn’t gay and then suddenly became gay? Ever known someone that was gay and then suddenly became not gay? I know people just like that. How does that happen? I’ll tell you how, it’s a choice!
I can choose to have relations with a man or a woman. I can choose to never have relations again. These are choices.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:36pmCARRIE – those people are bisexual. That is different than homosexual – people who never are attracted to the different sex. Just because you know two bisexual people doesn’t mean homosexuality isn’t an inborn, unchangeable trait.
And even if you don’t “support” it, whatever that means, why do you insist it is your duty to deny them the same civil rights you have? Why do you want to punish people who don’t adhere to your religion (which is much more of a choice than sexual orientation)?
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:52pmFreedomhater – That would be idiots like you who have to prove that homosexuality is born that way and you have failed to do so.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:26pmWell done!
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:40pmOnly in a fearful bigot’s mind can a group standing up for their rights be considered an “infringement” on Christianity
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 11:39pmFreedomhater – You Marxists want to legislate which groups of people and individuals businesses should be forced to accept. Anti-discrimination laws are nothing but thought policing laws.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 9:30amGIT-R-DONE – naming yourself after the catchphrase of a two-bit stand up comedian from Nebraska who talks like an inbred deep south hillbilly is a pretty good way to make yourself seem intelligent.
There is nothing at all Marxist about opposing bigotry
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:54pmFreedomhater – You Marxists hate Christians and you want to kill them or put them in jail, hypocrite. And why should everybody be forced to be tolerant and accepting? That violates freedom of speech and freedom of religion, which you oppose. I know that Southern hillbillies get to live however they want to and you’ll just have to suck it up and get over it that they live the way you don’t like.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 8:56pmFreedomhater – Don’t whine about bigotry against homosexuals when you’re bigoted against inbreds. At least inbreds were actually born that way and it can be proven. Not so with the homosexuals.
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:26pmgreat to see we still have real Americans left in USA
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:26pmHe should have let them in…but only served tuna fish sandwichs.
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Leerm
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:32pmHawwwwwhaawwwhaaawwwwww!!!!
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nesmond
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:35pmYes, tuna fish and boston butt, with spotted dick and choco-tacos for desert.
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firman
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:14pmDon’t forget the cream of sumyungi soup for appetizer.
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Fubared
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:33pmSome young guy…hahahahahahaha.
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countrygirl56
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:23pmAmen! Mr. Hodo and his business have the right to serve, or refuse to serve whoever they choose!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:35pmI expect this guys business to boom now much like Chick-Fil-A. The trouble is now Mr Hoda will have to hire extra security to stop any Floyd Lee Corkins II wannabes.
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almont
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:33pmWay to go Mr. Honda. I plan to make your place a regular stop any time I’m in town.
Who wants to eat in a place with people who stick their finger, tongue, peni$, fist in another man’s a$$ and lets other men do the same to them. OMG
Also as expected they are disease carriers, per the following link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts
They need to stick to their own restaurants and make others aware that the restuarant is for gays, as with bars. Guess what….then you can turn down straight groups (which they would appreciate).
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mrfred
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:20pmBOO *******.
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pragmaticpatriot
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:19pmI may drive there and have a meal, sounds like he deserves my business. Mom and Pop had a restaurant, pop turned away folks for less but he had a sign- ‘we retain the right to refuse service for any or no reason at all’.
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chips1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:47pmHey!!! My wife hung that sign in her kitchen!!!!
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:38pmThat’s OK, the problem is when they hang that sign in the bedroom…..
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jungle J
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:19pmWhat sane person wants to serve or be around homosexuals? And don’t bring up the minority crap. They didn’t choose.
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Fecal_Matters
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:26pmGood for him!!! Stop bending over for this group of JA’s. They are in the minority in this Country and too many bend over to kiss their a$$
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catty
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:44pmI know, you might catch it!
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:35pmNo one chooses to be gay either. You’d have to be a moron to think someone chooses who they are sexually attracted to. Grow up already
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 11:42pmFreedomhater – There’s no scientific evidence that homosexuality is born. It looks like you’re the moron on here since claiming born this way without any evidence to back it up. And it’s your side that has the burden of proof.
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Freedomlover_US
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 9:46amGIT-ER-DONE – if your side doesn’t believe in climate change or evolution, what possible scientific evidence would you accept?
Science doesn’t have “proof” in the technical sense that people are born left handed either – there is just too much that we do not know about psychology and genetics. In cases like this we use COMMON F**KING SENSE – who on earth “chooses” who they are sexually attracted to?!
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SocialismSuxEveryday
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:19pmGood for the owner. He can refuse service to any group that wants to fund raise in his establishment. Allowing any one to fund raise will promote that you identify and agree with the platforms of the club. Good call.
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naughtycal
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:22pmthe local coommunity needs to come out and support his rights as a business owner.
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MarioSmario
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 4:21pmLocal community should come out in support of the business owner AND the gay group.
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MrKnowItAll
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:17pmKeep the E COLI OUT! I Stand With This Owner 100%. It costs to much to Sterilize everything.
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spfoam1
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:34pmLMAO 10 points!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:16pmβIt felt like he was comparing us as equals with the KKK and weβre about completely opposite things,β
The Klan doesn’t like black guys. We not only like them, we want to have sex with them.
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Cavallo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:22pmBoth groups use intimidation and threats to force their way of life on the general populace. They are both started by democrats. Not a lot different between them. One hates blacks and Jews, the other hates whites and straights.
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Need to be FREE
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:16pmAll business owners should hold their ground. It is their business not the public’s. Refuse away, I would and will.
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The Common Constitutionalist
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:15pmAny private business has the right to refuse any patron, or at least should. He should also have the right to refuse to hire anyone he wishes.
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jimbob50
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 6:25pmBut Obama Lord said that he did not build that place and has no rights at all.
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Transmogrifier
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:14pm“An Arkansas-based gay rightβs organization”
Using apostrophes to form plurals is the calling card of a moron, Mr. Becket. Why can’t the Blaze find writers that are literate?
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Cavallo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:20pmThey are likely typing fast or cutting and pasting from other sources… or just negligent.
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Eternal
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:28pmNot “that” are literate…you should say “who” are literate. The focus is person wo WHO is used vs THAt which refers to a thing/item
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:33pmI’m with The Cav on this, TM. I’m a Typo Black Hole myself. Long as I can figure the meaning the “blue pencil” stuff don’t worry me none. But then I’m the kind of guy that isn’t bugged by dirty eye glasses or windshields.
On the other hand they ARE getting paid more than me.
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:35pmThey shouldn’t be quickly cutting and pasting anything. Supposedly they are journalists.
Check sources, read and proof it. Then have a GOOD editor edit and proof it.
Just because a writer works for an online journal does mean the standards go out the window!
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13th Imam
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:36pmR’emember B’engazi Apostrophes just ain’t that important
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:44pmTHE BIG MICK, I hear both of you on that. I certainly am not one to correct anybody. And, those who try to correct me get a dose of what I think of them.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:50pmgot me there TradCat. Point to you and TM.
Nice little cogent exchange. Kind of thing that patches the holes in my thinking.
Thanks all.
13 m—nicely done! :)
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Schteveo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:22pmTransmog,
on the topic of typos, ‘spellos’ and ‘wrongos’ in general, WHO is Mr. Becket?
A guud rool uf thahmb for an edotur, is too corekt your ouwn werk, befour cleenink op tha werk uf othurs.
Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week, try the lamb, very, very tasty tonight!
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:53pmSCHTEVEO….
WHO is Mr. Becket?
Becket Adams.. the author of the article.
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ckhenson
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:13pmGood. Long past time to draw a line in the sand. We will retreat no further!
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HLGarret
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:13pmAmen! Don’t let the socialists dictate their behaviour on other freedom loving Americans!
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Southernsoul
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:13pmThat’s the way it should be. If its your business, you should have the right to offer service to anyone you like, or refuse service to anyone you like. No one is hurt but the owner.
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RIGHT_WHERE_IT_HURTS
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:12pmHere comes the ACLU in 3, 2, 1…
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Kupo
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:34pmI honestly don’t think that there is any legal ground for a lawsuit here. The owner is not discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation since I’m sure there are straight people who are affiliated with this group. Also, the civil rights laws pertain to individuals, not organizations. I’m sure that this guy would have no problem with gay people frequenting his establishment, but them coming together in a private business as an organization with an outspoken agenda is not an action that is protected by law.
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John.Galt
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:11pmβIt felt like he was comparing us as equals with the KKK and weβre about completely opposite things,β said Sarah Sarrubbo, an organizer with the River Valley Equality Center.
Typical lib-tards. They would cheer him on if he refused the KKK, but they’re going to sue him for refusing to serve them? If he is forced to serve them, THEN YES, LIBERAL RESTAURANTS WOULD HAVE TO SERVE THE KKK, OR ANY OTHER GROUP THEY DISAGREE WITH…
but then again the lib-tards expect “special” rights for their groups… and diminished rights for anyone else, so this is not surprising.
In the end, I hope they enjoy their starvation!
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steveinva
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:19pmJim Quinn’s 1st law – “LIberalism always generates the exact opposite of it’s stated intent.”
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boston1773
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:28pmYeah, the problem here is that liberals don’t tend to run their own businesses. Too much like hard work.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:34pmUSEful shot, that, Boston.
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Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:38pmGood point -
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checkingbothsides
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 5:37pmI think that’s an unfair generalization. I’m a liberal who is also a civil libertarian. Living in Missouri, I supported the right of the KKK to adopt a highway in Jefferson County. You couldn’t have a public program like that and then decide who is worthy of using it. I also supported the right of the state of rename that section of road the Rosa Parks Highway. ;)
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 7:54pm” I supported the right of the KKK to adopt a highway in Jefferson County.”
So are supposed to pretend that a sign on a federal highway equates to a place of business owned by a private individual? Pretty weak…
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Truthmongering
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 10:45pmNo one is suing anyone.
If you hadn’t noticed, sexual orientation is not protected under Arkansas’ anti-discrimination laws.
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DIgnified
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:18pmWhat a re tar ded p u s s y you are. Starvation. Seriously.
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DeVain
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:09pmproprietors rights
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THSWarrior
Posted on February 9, 2013 at 2:07pmUnless this “restaurant” really and truly is a “private club” and can prove it is not ever open to the general public, the owner(s) will soon learn all about an old SCOTUS case commonly referred to by civil rights attorneys as “Heart of Atlanta Hotel (or Motel).” The holding in “Heart of Atlanta” approves harsh punishment for all discriminatory businesses that operate in or any manner affect “Interstate Commerce” in America. Google it.
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AmericanStrega
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:08pmGood for you business owner. Stand by your principles and DO NOT let them change you.
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iampraying4u
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:12pmStand by your man
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oldguy49
Posted on February 8, 2013 at 4:14pmamen pass the ammo
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Wildblue3
Posted on February 10, 2013 at 10:06amWhile his actions aren’t politically correct, I commend him for it. If it makes him uncomfortable, then he should.
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