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Pope Benedict to Resign at the End of the Month — First to Do So in 600 Years

Feb. 11, 2013 6:26am Jonathon M. Seidl

Pope Benedict to Resign; Conclave in March

This file picture taken on December 31, 2012 shows Pope Benedict XVI arriving to pray in front of the nativity crib in Saint Peter’s Square after celebrating the Vespers and Te Deum prayers in Saint Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI on February 11, 2013 announced he will resign on February 28, a Vatican spokesman told AFP, which will make him the first pope to do so in centuries. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

VATICAN CITY (TheBlaze/AP) — Pope Benedict XVI announced Monday that he would resign on Feb. 28 because he was simply too infirm to carry on – the first pontiff to do so in nearly 600 years. The decision sets the stage for a conclave to elect a new pope before the end of March.

The 85-year-old pope announced his decision in Latin during a meeting of Vatican cardinals on Monday morning.

He emphasized that carrying out the duties of being pope – the leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics worldwide – requires “both strength of mind and body.”

“After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths due to an advanced age are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry,” he told the cardinals. “I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only by words and deeds but no less with prayer and suffering.

“However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of St. Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary – strengths which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.”

The last pope to resign was Pope Gregory XII, who stepped down in 1415 in a deal to end the Great Western Schism among competing papal claimants.

Benedict called his choice “a decision of great importance for the life of the church.”

The announcement did come as a surprise to many, including New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan. He was interviewed about it on the “Today” show and detailed his initial thoughts. He revealed that he wondered at first if it was just a rumor after getting a call from NBC’s Matt Lauer. That quickly gave way to confirmation:

“We did have fair warning, but at the same time since it is something that hasn’t happened in centuries, it always does comes as a surprise,” former Fox News reporter and Vatican spokesman Greg Burke told “Today.”

The move sets the stage for the Vatican to hold a conclave to elect a new pope by mid-March, since the traditional mourning time that would follow the death of a pope doesn’t have to be observed.

There are several papal contenders in the wings, but no obvious front-runner – the same situation when Benedict was elected pontiff in 2005 after the death of Pope John Paul II.

When Benedict was elected pope at age 78 – already the oldest pope elected in nearly 300 years – he had been already planning to retire as the Vatican’s chief orthodoxy watchdog to spend his final years writing in the “peace and quiet” of his native Bavaria.

Contenders to be his successor include Cardinal Angelo Scola, archbishop of Milan, Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna, and Cardinal Marc Ouellet, the Canadian head of the Vatican’s office for bishops.

Longshots include Dolan. But while Dolan is popular and backs the pope’s conservative line, the general thinking is that the Catholic Church doesn’t need a pope from a “superpower.” You can read TheBlaze’s detailed story on that from when Dolan was first named Cardinal here.

All cardinals under age 80 are allowed to vote in the conclave, the secret meeting held in the Sistine Chapel where cardinals cast ballots to elect a new pope. As per tradition, the ballots are burned after each voting round; black smoke that snakes out of the chimney means no pope has been chosen, while white smoke means a pope has been elected.

Popes are allowed to resign; church law specifies only that the resignation be “freely made and properly manifested.”

Only a handful have done so, however and there’s good reason why it hasn’t become commonplace: Might the existence of two popes – even when one has stepped down – lead to divisions and instability in the church? Might a new resignation precedent lead to pressures on future popes to quit at the slightest hint of infirmity?

Benedict himself raised the possibility of resigning if he were simply too old or sick to continue on in 2010, when he was interviewed for the book “Light of the World.”

“If a pope clearly realizes that he is no longer physically, psychologically and spiritually capable of handling the duties of his office, then he has a right, and under some circumstances, also an obligation to resign,” Benedict said.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger had an intimate view as Pope John Paul II, with whom he had worked closely for nearly a quarter-century, suffered through the debilitating end of his papacy.

You can read the full text of the resignation announcement to the Cardinals below:

Dear Brothers,

I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonizations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.

Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.

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EndofDaysAreHere
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:58am
Luke 21:25-28 (NKJV) 25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

So mote it be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

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- Exiled
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:26am
  You’re citing Wikipedia for your scriptural references? Oh, how humanity has sunk.
  
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- EndofDaysAreHere
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:31am
  Actually no, I cited scripture by quoting Luke 21. The wikipedia reference was for those who may not be knowledgeable about the prophesy of Saint Malachy. But, thank you for your statement and succeeding reply which proves you know absolutely nothing.
  
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- Exiled
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:45am
  If the list of Malachi was scripture, wouldn’t it be in the scriptures? Or are you of the mind that just about anything anybody writes down in Latin is a prophesy?
  
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- KalanVA
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:15am
  Many believe that Nostradamus created Prophecy of Popes and it was credited to Saint Malachi. Nostradamus didn’t want backlash from fear.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:08am
  Hey, 14 million Mormons believe in extra Biblical prophecy and they can’t all be wrong.
  
  Or can they?
  
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- EndofDaysAreHere
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:08am
  Poor little Exiled. When you are proven to be an idiot, you should just shuffle away gracefully and accept your status in life. Now go away.
  
  To Kalanva. Nostradamus lived from 1503 to 1566. Saint Malachy (not spelled “Malachi” as our little friend Exiled spells it) live from 1094 to 1148. This is approximately 400 years before Nostradamus.
  
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- KalanVA
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:21am
  EndofDaysAreHere: Prophecy of Papal was first published in 1595 by Arnold de Wyon, a Benedictine historian, as part of his book Lignum Vitæ. The prophecy is not mentioned in any record prior to its 1595 publication as you mentioned 400 years later.
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:43pm
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Malachy
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
  
  The final Pope will soon take the throne.
  
  Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:47pm
  I posted just last week about Malachy.
  
  Interesting times we get to see!
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:51pm
  For centuries, people mocked Christians because they believed the Bible when it said Israel would become a nation again, even though the Jews were dispersed around the world. After 2,000 years of no Israel, though, in 1948 Israel was born again in one day, just like the Bible said it would be. That fulfilled prophecy alone should give any unbeliever pause, because nothing like that has ever happened in history.
  
  When speaking of the time before Jesus’ return, the Bible says men’s hearts will grow weak because of natural disasters that occur in the oceans. The fact that we’ve had two tsunamis of “Biblical” proportions (i.e., Indonesia and Japan) and several hurricanes of “Biblical” proportions (e.g., Katrina, Ike, etc.) in the past few years seem to be fulfillment of those prophecies. What about all of the earthquakes of “Biblical” proportions that have leveled cities in Turkey, Indonesia, New Zealand, etc.? The Bible says such things will also be signs. Actually, there are lots of prophecies that are being fulfilled right now, which seem to indicate we won’t have to wait long for the return of Jesus, but if people choose to mock, I guess that’s their prerogative. Ironically, such scoffing has also been prophesied in the Bible and is yet another sign that Jesus’ return is close at hand.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:02pm
  @THEOTHERBEREAN
  
  I have no desire to quarrel with you.
  
  I desire that each man be allowed to worship who, when, where and how he may.
  
  You are free to interpret the scriptures as you see fit.
  
  You are free to berate others who don’t interpret it the same as you.
  
  You are free to wander the world calling everyone to repentance and exposing false doctrine with an iron tongue.
  
  As for me, I will love my neighbor. I will speak my beliefs with meekness, patience and long-suffering.
  
  I will do good to all men.
  
  I will respect another person’s use if their ability to choose, even if I disagree with their choice; I will not hinder them in their ability to choose.
  
  I will try to ‘preach the Gospel at all times, and if necessary, I will use words’.
  
  I will try my best to follow the commandments of Jesus Christ, and I will try my best to be like Him.
  
  I will invite others to come into Jesus…to be washed clean of the sins of the world and to endure to the end that they may be held spotless before the judgement bar on the last day.
  
  I will continue to preach that the Grace of God, all men may be saved through the atonement of Jesus Christ.
  
  If you believe me to be on the wrong path, so be it.
  
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- mcsledge
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:39pm
  Your tying New Testament scripture to position that did not exist in the Apostle led, divine revelation receiving Church of Jesus Christ. Paul taught that the Church was founded on Prophets and Apostles, not on Popes and Cardinals. But nice try.
  
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- mcsledge
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:44pm
  theotherberean – The Fourteen Million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (led by divine revelation, Prophets and Apostles) to which you refer believe in the Rock on which Christ established His Gospel…..Divine Revelation, not Peter. Read your scriptures and you will see Christ was refering to Peter’s method of obtaining a witness of who Christ was in the previous verse.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:50pm
  Hey Ed, you’re the one quarreling. You engaged me to chastise me, remember?
  
  Your hatred for the truths I speak, is veiled by your opulent opinion of yourself.
  
  Pride is our worst enemy.
  
  And you have continued to chastise me for such infractions as quoting Joseph Smith and pointing out lies, hypocrisy and error. All the while elevating yourself to some imagined, morally higher position, due to your kindness towards others.
  
  However, I perceive that your unwillingness to stand up for the truth is more of a flaw than an asset.
  
  I realize you believe that when you walk down the street, honey drips from your mouth and roses grow behind you, and everyone simply loves you. But you are still following a false prophet with a false gospel who teaches a false Jesus and a false God, and I’m not “afraid” of offending you when I tell you that you are not a Christian for that reason. Not only for that reason, but also because the founders of your church insisted that Christians were pagans, and because they taught that you should believe that the Jesus Christ of historical and orthodox Christianity is the false one and anyone who follows Him is of the devil.
  
  My motives and methods are not misguided, as you infer, because truth has no agenda.
  
  Your “agenda,” on the other hand, seems inclined to ridicule Mormon detractors into silence.
  
  Again, you engaged me, remember?.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:53pm
  Hey Sledge, divine revelation was always accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders.
  
  Which we have not seen since the last apostle died.
  
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- nesmond
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Some Christians may find this thought-provoking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogB6nJzEQ0
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:52pm
  Obama can take his place
  
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- KIWL-DA-WABBIT
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 3:19pm
  THEOTHERBEREAN — Revelation 12:9 says that they ARE all wrong. Gods servants are not elected by MEN. They are chosen by GOD!
  
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- KIWL-DA-WABBIT
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 3:23pm
  Make way for the great false prophet. He will perform lying wonders and miracles such that if it were possible he would deceive even the elect, even calling fire down from the sky in the sight of men!
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 5:00pm
  theotherberean, If God is not performing miracles in the life of believer, it’s not because he doesn’t perform miracles anymore, it’s because of our own lack of faith (Mark 6:4-6). God doesn’t change (James 1:17), so either he didn’t do miracles back then and still doesn’t do them, or he did do miracles back then and still does them.
  
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- title_of_liberty
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 5:03pm
  @theotherberean I find it ironic that one of the things you attack us mormons for is being different from mainstream Christianity. Let me ask you this simple question: Are you a protestant? Because in the 1400s and 1500s Protestantism was hardly mainstream.And it was also called unchristian by many Christians of the time. Who are you to tell me that I am not a follower of Christ? I am not perfect but neither are you or anybody else.
  I know that Jesus Christ is The Only Begotten Son of God, that He lived a perfect life and died to atone for our sins, and I know that He lives!
  
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- JQP
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:39pm
  mcsledge: Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are twins. One remained faithful to God Almighty, Jesus, and the other chose to rebel. Mormonism teaches that both were created beings.
  
  The Bible says through Paul the Apostle, the ONLY apostle chosen by Jesus after He rose from the dead, and ascended into Heaven, reclaiming His Throne as God the Son: “But even if we or AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, (Moroni) should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
  Galations 1:8-9
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:07pm
  JQP, I don’t know if Mormons are Christians, or not. To be honest, I’m not sure how low the bar is for being saved. After all, if you look at the thief on the cross, he merely admitted his own guilt, acknowledged the innocence of Jesus and then asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom, yet Jesus responded by saying, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43).
  
  Practically all of the Mormons I’ve ever talked to say they believe Jesus is the Son of God and that he died for their sins, which, to me, is what makes a Christian a Christian. Does it matter that Mormons have some weird beliefs about God once being a man and Jesus being created? I don’t know. It’s certainly not what I believe and some of their beliefs seem blasphemous, but I’m drawn back to the thief on the cross who didn’t know anything about Jesus other than he was the innocent Son of God who was being unjustly crucified and who had the power to grant him rest in the kingdom of Heaven. Regardless of how low the bar is, I do know one thing, which is our salvation is 100% dependent on what Christ did and 0% on our own works, so if you are a Mormon who believes Jesus died for your sins, keep in mind that your works play no role whatsoever in your salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9).
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:19am
  LTB, if miracle workers exist today, why don’t we know about them? Show me someone who can empty hospitals and morgues and I will believe you.
  
  TITLE, I don’t “attack” Mormons for being “different” from mainstream Christianity, the Bible instructs me to point out error in the Church. A Mormon claiming to be a Christian is hypocritical if not deluded because your religion teaches doctrines that have nothing to do with orthodox Christianity. In fact Smith denounces Christianity as “of the devil.”
  
  I don’t claim any “denomination. I believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible and I follow His teachings as found in the Bible.
  
  If you believe in the orthodox Christian Jesus Christ then you are not LDS. Jesus asked “who do you say that I am” Mk 8:29 and the answer will explain who you worship as your God. LDS teach such an extremely different God and Jesus, that the ones they worship fit the Biblical description of blasphemy and worshipping idols.
  
  These sites are LDS sites, and explain what Smith taught you should believe about God and Jesus. Check them out…http://tinyurl.com/8o2uzzl http://tinyurl.com/9e4ec97
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:07am
  theotherberean, Just from reading your comment, it’s no mystery to me why you don’t see miracles in your own life. You don’t believe and are full of doubt, so no wonder you never experience any miracles (James 1:2-8). I’m guessing you’re a Calvinist, correct? I find Calvinists have a really difficult time with growing their faith. It’s like they get saved and say they believe the Bible 100%, but then they go around telling people that God doesn’t perform miracles anymore. I also find that Calvinists spend an inordinate amount of time rooting out “false converts.” Take this as loving advice: Spend more time cherishing your own salvation and less time worrying about whether other self-professing Christians are saved and I can almost guarantee that you’ll start seeing miracles in your own life.
  
  As far as Mormons are concerned, like I said, I don’t know how low the bar is. Besides, I have enough sin in my own life to worry about without worrying if other people, who claim to be Christians, are actually saved. That being said, I do agree with JQP completely that anyone spreading the “gospel” of Mormonism should read Galatians 1:8-9, before they tell people that salvation = Jesus + works.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 12:05pm
  LTB, thanks for your concern, but I never said miracles don’t happen today, nor that I don’t see or expect miracles in my own life. However, I did say that I believe there are no “miracle workers” such as in Biblical times. Can anyone raise a dead person? And if they did I would think it was a Satanic deception for two reasons. 1. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible. Matt 24:24. 2. Miracles, signs and wonders were given for a specific reason – to substantiate the Gospel message. “But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” John 10:38
  
  I disagree with the notion that Christians should sit on their hands and just be happy with their own salvation. 2 Tim 4:1 I command you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his Kingdom: 2preach the word; be urgent in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with all patience and teaching. 3For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside to fables. 5But you be sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, and fulfill your ministry.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 12:11pm
  Also, you admit you don’t know much about the Mormons, and most Christians don’t either. Mormons easily deceive Christians because they use the same words we use, but to describe entirely different things. They worship a false god, a false Jesus and follow a false gospel which came from a false prophet. They fairly well fit the description of all we are warned about in 1 and 2 Timothy. It is my duty as a Christian, to expose the LDS religion for the pagan mystery cult that it is.
  
  Not only does the Bible tell me to speak out, President Joseph Fielding Smith, the tenth LDS prophet said:
  
  Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He was either a prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. There is no middle ground. If Joseph Smith was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead the people, then he should be exposed; his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false, for the doctrines of an impostor cannot be made to harmonize in all particulars with divine truth. If his claims and declarations were built upon fraud and deceit, there would appear many errors and contradictions, which would be easy to detect (D. of S. Vol. 1, p. 188).
  
  And they are. All one must do is know where to look.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 6:16pm
  theotherberean, Miracle workers are nothing more than Christians who heal in the name of Jesus. If Jesus’ name had the power to heal people 2,000 years ago, his name still has the power to heal today. Sure there are charlatans who claim to heal in the name of Jesus, but I also believe there are people with enormous faith in the area of healing who can help Christians lacking faith in that area. When you have someone who is sick in your family, do you not pray for him to be healed? I hope you do and that’s the same thing the apostles did 2,000 years ago.
  
  Also, I never said I just sit on my hands being happy with my own salvation, what I said is that you might see more miracles in your own life if you stopped concentrating on whether other people are saved and instead concentrated on how blessed you are to be saved. You Calvinists seem to spend more time accusing other people of being “false converts” than you do spreading the Gospel and it’s very off-putting. If there is someone in your church who is spreading a false “gospel,” then by all means, kick him out, but do you really think you lead more souls to Christ by telling people the true Gospel of Christ crucified, or by hanging around in discussion forums arguing with Mormons?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:17am
  LTB, I believe a “miracle worker” is one who possesses and exhibits the very Authority of Christ to cast out demons, heal the sick and raise the dead. An instantaneously, miraculously, momentarily suspension of the laws of physics and nature. This is the type of miracle that Jesus, His Apostles and some 70 others could perform, at will. Do you know someone like that?
  
  I never called anyone a “false convert.” False prophets, false Jesus, false god, false gospel perhaps, but not false converts.
  
  And yes you are telling me to sit on my hands and leave everyone alone and stop sharing the Gospel. The problem is the Bible tells me the exact opposite. You can believe in the gospel of LTB if you like, I’ll take the one that’s in the Bible.
  
  I never claimed to be a “Calvanist” nor will I address your straw man.
  
  “…do you really think you lead more souls to Christ by telling people the true Gospel of Christ crucified, or by hanging around in discussion forums arguing with Mormons?”
  
  I don’t think those two thoughts are mutually exclusive. Christians are to commanded to always and everywhere share the Gospel message and correct error in “the church.” When Mormons claim to be Christians, they are in “my church.” So are you if you claim to be a Christian, regardless of which denomination you claim or which discussion forum you choose to haunt.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:55pm
  Theotherberean, I’m going to say this one more time… I did not tell you to sit on your hands and stop sharing the Gospel. I don’t know why you continue to falsely accuse me, but it just further demonstrates that you are a very divisive person.
  
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  “Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.” Titus 3:10-11.
  
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thewhiteright
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:49am
YahooOOOOoooo lets get on already :-P

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- Kaoscontrol
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:36am
  This pope didn’t die– he just Petered out!
  Bah-duh-bump!
- Exidor
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:49am
  Too pooped to Pope?
- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:03am
  I read the comments on this story and am amazed by how oblivious people are to what is happening. According to Saint Malachy’s Prophecy of the Popes, the pope who comes after Benedict will be the last pope and is the pope who will be the false prophet described in “Revelation.” Although Malacy’s prophecy is not part of the Bible, his descriptions of popes up to this point have been undeniably accurate. When you consider Malachy’s prophecy, in conjunction with the multitude of prophecies in the Bible that are being fulfilled in this day and age, it’s amazing.
  
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  “And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.” — Luke 17:26-30
  
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- macpappy
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:19am
  LTB
  “According to Saint Malachy’s Prophecy of the Popes”
  
  Well, yeah, but according to Tolken, if you throw the silly ring into the fire the thing goes back to normal, and the Shire will live long and prosper.
  
  Who cares who gets to wear the funny hat.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:19am
  Looks like the St Malachy prophecies about the last pope are about to be fulfilled
  
  Great video about the last pope http://youtu.be/1uQAAX0CyGI
  
  The resurrection/rapture is at the door http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
  
  Their is only one way to be saved and that is through faith upon Jesus Christ
  
  Romans 10:9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
  
  10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:26am
  Who’s the vice pope?
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:31am
  and the beast that was,and is not,even he is the eighth,and is of the seven,and goith into perdition
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:40am
  THERAPTURCOMES, when you read comments like the one from Macpappy, it’s pretty astounding to see how blind people are to what’s going on around them. Anyway, this is an exciting time to be a Christian!
  
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  “First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, ‘Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.’ But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.” (2 Peter 3:3-7)
  
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- SageInWaiting
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:49am
  @LBT… That came to mind as well. I don’t know if that guy was a true prophet or not; suffice it to say that many other events seem to indicate that we ARE in the “Last Days” and scoffers DO abound. Of course, I’m in good company in that feeling: Paul, Peter, and the 1st Century Church, Luther, … Do a word-search on “Ephraim,” “House of Joseph,” “House of Israel,” “Whole House of Israel”… consider the “two sticks” of EZ 37. There is a lot that needs to be fulfilled that I don’t know that the church realizes. I’m not so sure we can count on the Rapture to save us from it all; we may be players in the “Last Day” scenario. If the government ever wants to mark/chip my right hand or forehead, I don’t think I’ll allow it.
  
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- 22AUTOMATIC
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:01pm
  As soon as I heard the news this morning I had to contact my folks right away. In the 12th century Saint Malachy gave a prophecy of 111 Popes and then the 112th Pope being the last one which leads into the book of Revelation. This news kind of made me nervous because Saint Malachy was correct on all of the 111 Popes – who they would be and/or where they’d come from. He said Benedict would be the last “good Pope.” Wow- the time has arrived! Are you ready?
  
  See video below for more information on the final Pope
  http://youtu.be/nouJrREf3iQ
  
  More information below
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
  
  Peter The Roman will be the next Pope and the final one.
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:09pm
  If the Rapture doesn’t happen pretty soon, the Lord has arranged private transportation for me. When I was younger the prospect of the Rapture was much more exciting to me than it is now. At this point, I would rather see another soul come to Christ before it happens. There is nothing else in this world that excites me other than the prospect of the Holy Spirit bringing individuals to the Salvation of the Lord. I really couldn’t care less what the Pope is doing, what Obama is doing or what people think they’re doing. As prophecies clearly come to fruition it will only mean that there is a more convincing reason to submit to Christ before the door of mercy is closed.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:11pm
  I hope you guys aren’t too dissapointed when nothing happens and you guys just die like everybody else of old age, disease, or accident. However, I will rejoice that the end of the world is not happening(at least in any supernatural form), and that billions of people will still be alive and I get to spend one more day on this beautiful precious pale blue dot with the people I love. Reality is special
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:18pm
  SageInWaiting, Irvin Baxter, whom I like a lot, doesn’t believe in a pre-tribulation rapture either. The reason I believe in a post tribulation rapture, is because not removing Christians before the tribulation would go against the nature of God and how he has handled similar situations in the past. For example: The last thing God did before bringing the flood upon the world was to close the door on the ark after Noah and his family were safe inside (Genesis 7:16); he didn’t destroy the cities of the plain until Lot and his family were safely outside of Sodom (Genesis 19:15-17); when the first born in Egypt were killed, all of the Israelites were kept safe from harm inside their homes (Exodus 11:7); we (i.e., Christians) are not appointed to God’s wrath (1 Thessalonians 5:9); and, finally, I believe “once saved, always saved” (Isaiah 51:6, Romans 11:29), but if Christians are around during the tribulation they would be at risk of being damned to hell by taking the mark of the beast (Revelation 14:9-11). There are lots of other reasons I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, but Irvin does make a good case for a post-tribulation rapture. I do hope you guys are wrong.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:24pm
  The_Doors_Of_Perception, you won’t have to wait long to find out that you’re wrong. If the world as you know it is still around in 20 years, I’ll be shocked. If it’s still around in 10 years, I’ll be surprised.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:34pm
  LTB
  
  John 14:1-3 is about to be fulfilled http://youtu.be/UwL3rKteOng
  
  I am ready to go home
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:36pm
  SageInWaiting, I meant to say “the reason I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture…”
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:01pm
  LTB,
  
  Well I’m glad I don’t have to wait long hahaha. I doubt the world will be here as I know it in 20 years either. I mean the world always changes quite a bit in 20 years…especially from a human perspective. Being that the earth is 4 billion years old and a human generation is truly here for an unnoticable period of time…to our minds eye a lot can change in 20 years. But I can pretty much gurantee, it won’t be the end because Jesus is coming back from outer space to call up the rest of his space zombies. I mean who would believe that?
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:06pm
  Doors: I can guarantee you will be disappointed. When all you believe in is what your senses tell you and you don’t realize how fragile your life is and how easily it is beset by suffering for both you and those you love and you are not aware of just how short time is, then there is nothing for you but disappointment. If you continue on your present course, you will weep, and you will gnash your teeth. The real shame is that so will those whom you love. If you have a wife and children, you have been give a sacred duty to their souls as well as your own. What a wasted life, to have known the truth and so fully rejected it that you are overjoyed to take others with you into a pit of lies. If there is anything worthy of pity it is you. If there is anyone in need of mercy it is you. You are just a sensual roulette player who’s bet everything he has on black. You are like the prodigal who would rather fight with pigs over scraps than humble yourself and return to your father’s house so that you can feast at his banquet table. You’ve turned your back on the Fountain of Living Water so that you can suck what you can out of the sands of time. Your thirst will not be quenched. You are no threat to anyone who believes and what you consider clever will eventually destroy you. I truely hope for your sake and for those around you that God has mercy on your soul.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:46pm
  Sorry Witness I know all of that makes you feel better and reaffirms your belief, but your threats of violence from your sadomastic god are hollow to me. Are you scared you will go to hell because you don’t believe in Allah? Oh, you don’t? Well, now you know how I feel. My family are perfectly happy and loving without delusion…there are no threats from reality…you either live in it or you don’t.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:02pm
  Hey DOORSOFINEQUITY, of course they are hollow to you. What do you expect? Only the elect “get it.” The rest end up in the lake of fire, with the false prophet and those who follow him. (Joseph Smith maybe?)
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 3:36pm
  So it’s like a club? Kiwanis? God created our known universe and then an exclusive club for “elect” individuals of the human species who “get it”. Oh trust me…I get it…..d.e.l.u.s.i.o.n.a.l hahahahahahaha
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 3:59pm
  The_Doors_Of_Perception, When I say “the world as you know it,” I mean a world that doesn’t make Hitler’s Germany look like Disney World. You’re so naive and it’s not even worth trying to explain to people like you why you’re in for a rude awakening in the near future, because you’ll find out soon enough. As far as believing Jesus will return, who would believe that? Oh I don’t know, a couple of billion people by some estimates. You actually believe that you’re related to apes and that your ancestors were tiny little slime balls who magically appeared on an inanimate rock after nothing exploded into everything, so if you want to talk about stupid beliefs, you might want to check your own delusions at the door first. PS, I like your username – talk about irony.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 4:31pm
  The_Doors_Of_Perception and theotherberean, God made it very easy for people to get into Heaven. God doesn’t ask you to be perfect and he doesn’t ask you to do good works, he just asks that you believe in his Son (Acts 16:31). Do that and you’ll be part of that “exclusive club.”
  
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- JQP
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:53pm
  LTB: “The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.”
  1Timothy 4:1-5
  
  1″But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.2For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses,7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:1-7
  
  EVEN SO, COME LORD JESUS. MARANATHA!!!
  
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- WalkThePath
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 5:08pm
  Its obvious that racism is in the mix here, when will we finally see the Black Pope? I’m keen to get it all over with and bow to Dagon and Isis, the human sacrifice is so covert and contrived at the moment, why cant we just do it during a fertility festival like in the old days? BRING BACK BABYLON!
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:25pm
  @THERAPTURCOMES – In 1 Peter 3:21 God tells us that Baptism does now save us.
  
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Simonne
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:48am
It won’t happen but I just wish a cardinal from the US would become pope.

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- lel2007
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:19am
  Why? What difference would that make?
  
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- watashbuddyfriend
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:04am
  @Simonne, Why? What difference does it make?
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:47am
  I’ll settle for one that doesn’t advocate State oppression of citizens. One that doesn’t equate economic liberty with terrorism, or one that doesn’t salivate for more State control of weapons from peaceful and free men.
  
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- Tom21773
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:49am
  Perhaps Simon lives in a liberal area and assumes that any and all U.S. Cardinals would approve of all the agendas the libs wish to push on the entire world. If not, he/she can explain his/her own points instead of making unreasoned wishes.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:34am
  @Cavallo
  
  Poor, poor conservatives, even men of God realize your beliefs in greed and guns are unholy. that you are little more than pagans worshipping the whore priestess Ayn Rand, elevating greed to a virture and making mercy and empathy vices. (Even Beck rants against empathy).
- Cavallo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:15am
  @Enc, To a fascist, freedom is unholy. To those that worship The State, liberty is evil. To the autocrat there is no greater blasphemy than the emancipation of the individual.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:27am
  @Cavallo be honest who do you kneel before the preacher from the Mount that taught the beatitudes or Ayn Rand that glorified greed?
- hillbillyinny
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:43am
  Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia as Pope? Cardinal Dolan is needed too much at this time within the U.S. Both are excellent strong, articulate and holy men. Archbishop Chaput is also Native American–interesting twist. . .
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:46pm
  @Enc, neither is mutually exclusive, nor Locke, nor Nietzsche, nor Jefferson, nor Madison, nor Friedman. All advocated for freedom. I would take any, over the philosophers of death and State oppression like Marx, Engels, Mao, Lenin, and Mussolini.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:01pm
  He will probably come from South America or Mexico.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:09pm
  LTB
  
  He will be a Hebrew
  
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- Whatever...
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Yeah, there’s our problem. Rotten foreigners are everywhere, even in the church. USA USA !!!
  
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- ltb
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 4:11pm
  encinom, you seem to be really big on accusing other people of being greedy. If you want to talk about greed, let’s take a look at your own greed. Did you know that if you make $30,000 a year, you’re richer than 95% of the rest of the world and if you make $47,500 a year, you’re richer than 99% of the rest of the world? So encinom, even if you’re an American on welfare, chances are you make more than $30,000 a year and unless you’re sending 40% of your income to feed starving people in Zimbabwe, you might want to consider what a hypocrite you are when you accuse other people of being greedy.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:13pm
  Eisegesis = Making scripture fit your beliefs
  Exegesis = Making your beliefs fit scripture
  
  Jesus gave Peter and Peter ALONE the Keys to HIS Kingdom.. Some try to equate Jesus Keys to the power to bind and loose but Jesus gave Peter both the Keys to His Kingdom AND the power to bind and loose so clearly both are not the same thing. Jesus also did not tell the other Apostles that He was building His church on them. Jesus also told Peter and Peter alone to STRENGTHEN the other Apostles after He was gone. Jesus also told Peter and Peter alone to FEED MY SHEEP (3 times) You see some people are so invested in rejecting the fact that Jesus chose Peter that they have no choice but to reject Jesus own words to Peter. The question then becomes, what exactly would Jesus have to say to Peter or Paul or any Apostle in order for someone to accept the fact that Jesus built His church on him, gave him the Keys to HIS Kingdom, gave him the authority to bind and loose and commissioned him to strengthen the other Apostles after He was gone? If Jesus were to tell YOU that He is building His church upon YOU and giving YOU the Keys to HIS Kingdom and giving YOU all of HIS authority to Bind and Loose and ordered YOU to strenghten His Apostles after He was gone, would you take that to mean that Jesus is telling you that you are insignificant and have no authority at all and Jesus expects nothing of you? Maybe so….
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:47am
question for catholics:

Would Benedict have any sort of infallibility AFTER he resigns as Pope?

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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:57am
  Only insofar as he is asked about Doctrine. He is not going to become unfaithful or less of a Servant of God. I suspect that this will have most End Times folks in a twitter. It’s not too late to come to God.
  If you want to believe He is real, just ask Him. IMHO this Pope understands the great fight we are now in (Good v. Evil) and it’s going to take a younger man with more worldly experience. I would love
  to see CARDINAL DOLAN in this role. A great Man of God with a tough hide and gentle heart.
  
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- lel2007
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:25am
  Don’t confuse the charism of papal “infallibility” with “impeccability.”. infallibility also belongs to the body of bishops as a whole, when, in doctrinal unity with the pope, they solemnly teach a doctrine as true. We have this from Jesus himself, who promised the apostles and their successors the bishops, the magisterium of the Church: “He who hears you hears me” (Luke 10:16), and “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven” (Matt. 18:18).
  
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- rose-ellen
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:46am
  No.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:10am
  Scripture shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the other apostles (Ephesians 2:19-20) and the “loosing and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise shared by the local churches, not just their church leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Titus 2:15; 3:10-11). Thus, the foundation of papal infallibility—the existence of the papacy itself—is not scriptural.
  
  2) Nowhere does Scripture state that, in order to keep the church from error, the authority of the apostles was passed on to those they ordained (the Roman Catholic Church teaching of “apostolic succession”). Apostolic succession is “read into” those verses that the Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine (2 Timothy 2:2; 4:2-5; Titus 1:5; 2:1; 2:15; 1 Timothy 5:19-22). Paul does NOT call on believers in various churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other church leaders based on their authority as bishops, but rather based upon their being fellow laborers with him (1 Corinthians 16:10; 16:16; 2 Corinthians 8:23). What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise even from among accepted church leaders and that Christians were to compare the teachings of these later church leaders with Scripture, which alone is cited in the Bible as infallible. More: http://www.gotquestions.org/papal-infallibility.html
  
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- adieappleby
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:22am
  Infallibility is only in his actions as Pope- not as a person. So I think the answer would be no.
  
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- caitlynsdad
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:22am
  No. All infallible statements (and the last was made in 1950) are issued by the reigning pope. After February 28, Benedict XVI could no more issue one of those than George Bush can issue an executive order.
  
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- Pio
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:48am
  While I am not an apologist I do know that the only time a pope is infallible is when he makes decisions from the Chair of Peter.. Keep in mind its not some chair he sits in literally, but in terms of Catholic teaching the pope can have his opinions, which faithful Catholics can disagree with, and he also has the authority to make decisions in regaurds to catholic teaching, that the faithful must be obedient to. I think most of the time it comes from councils ( council of Trent, council of Jeruselem, council of Nicea) The last one we had was Vatican Council 1 and 2. When they rule on such matters of their specific time. So to answer your question, no, he is not infallible once he leaves the Chair of Peter.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:50am
  @theotherberean = You are ignoring a “KEY” fact. Jesus gave Peter and Peter ALONE the KEYS to the Kingdom of Heaven
  
  Isaiah 22:22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.
  
  Matthew 16:19
  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
  
  The Old foreshadows the New and the New fulfills the Old. Jesus gave Peter and Peter ALONE the KEYS to the the Kingdom of Heaven and Earth.
  
  In Luke 22:31-32 during the last supper a dispute arose among Apostles as to which of them was considered to be greatest and Jesus interrupted them and addressed Peter saying.
  
  “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you [plural] as wheat. But I have prayed for you [singular] Simon, that your [singular] faith may not fail. And when you [singular] have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”
  
  Jesus made this pronouncement in front of the other Apostles at the exact moment that all of them were disputing which of them was the greatest.
  
  Jesus also told Peter “Feed My Sheep” 3 times.
  
  If God Almighty were to look you in the eye and say “otherberean, I am giving YOU the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven” would you turn to Jesus and say “No Lord, everyone who reads scripture has your Keys” and If Jesus told you “Feed My Lambs” would you turn to Jesus and say “No Jesus, everyone
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:14am
  @theotherberean – Saul Saul, why do you persecute me……..
  
  From the beginning God has appointed sinful men to lead His people (Moses, Abraham, King David, Paul and the other Apostles) and throughout salvation history there are those who have rejected the authority of these sinful men that God appointed to lead His people. For those of you in this forum who believe that God did not give Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and that the gates of hell did prevail against Jesus church I encourage you to read about Korah’s rebellion (Numbers 16:1-50) and take heed to what happened to Korah and those who questioned Moses authority and rebelled against him. They made the same argument that you are making today, that Moses was no greater or had no more authority than they did. Also Paul is VERY clear that we are to be obedient to those in the church who have AUTHORITY over us. (Hebrews 13:17) It is in our broken and sinful nature to reject authority and to convince ourselves that all that we have to do is read scripture and we can be in authority over ourselves and no one can tell us what to do but God gave Peter the keys not you. God has ALWAYS placed men in authority over his flock and Jesus gave Peter His Keys for a reason. You can choose to reject Jesus authority or submit to it in obedience. The choice is yours, there is still time to repent and put aside your pride and stop persecuting Jesus church.
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:17am
  Snoopie, you should address my arguments point by point, rather than just hopping over and ignoring them to restate your own.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:40am
  If he stays away from the little boys he will be ok
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:56pm
  @theotherberean – Thank you for telling me what I should and should not do. When you are finished determining what I should and should not do, it might be beneficial to address my comments directly. It is a common tactic when faced with facts that you cannot refute to attack the person or the method that person uses to question you but doing so doesn’t really advance your posiiton it just makes you look petty and condescending. At the end of the day people can listen to you (and I think you will agree that you are fallible and the only assurance you have that your beliefs are true is your own fallible personal affirmation that you are right) or they can study the writings of those who lived with and learned from the Apostles and their successors (such as Polycarp, Ignatius. Iraneaus, Agustine etc) and see for themselves what they taught and believed. Otherwise, they are just taking the word of some guy on a blog who is defined more by what he denies and rejects than by what he affirms and who launches ad hominem attacks when faced with questions that he cannot answer. To be frank, my posts are not for your edification as you have already infallibly determined that you hold the fullness of the truth and anyone who disagrees with you is in error. My posts are for those who humbly admit that they could be wrong and are sincerely seeking the truth.
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:28am
  No SNOOP, that is not true. You did not address my original arguments. Instead you stated your own arguments, which in fact, my previous arguments had already addressed.
  
  You attempted to make the argument that Peter exclusively has the “keys to the kingdom” but I had already taken that argument away.
  
  If you wish to make a rebuttal to my arguments and address point by point the Scriptures I posted, then you I welcome you to continue, but your latest comments have not rebutted my original arguments. We can all see that…
  
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NoLongerNonPlussed
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:26am
Let’s do something totally different with this.

Let’s all take 30 seconds and let’s pray for Pope Benedict, the cardinals who will elect his successor, and all the Roman Catholics around the world who will look toward that successor as the head of their church and the leader of their faith.

Maybe some good will come of our half a minute so well spent.

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- ZAP
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:46am
  And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.JESUS CHRIST
  
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- Pio
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:52am
  I agree I as a Catholic will be praying and fasting for the predecessor to the Chair of Peter..Thank u for praying instead of bashing like most people
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:19am
  The problem is, he is not the successor to Peter. Peter did not name a successor. The RCC merely claimed succession.
  
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- scruffycat
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:59am
  I will pray for the pope and his successor even though I am not Catholic because I like the guy AND I BELEIVE THE EVIL OBAMA is somehow involved with this… WHAT KIND OF EVIL could face the pope down and make him run away, possibly to find someone stronger than him, to be able to fight it? Satanic Obama thats who. The guy who laughs while his own personell die in Bengazi… Somehow Obama can now jack the pope around like the pope is nothing at all… 1.2 billion souls hang in the balance…
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:03pm
  Excellent point, thanks for bringing some charity and clarity to this discussion.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:52am
  @PIO – I’m with you PIO. Prayer and Fasting is the way. Much more important to talk about Jesus and what He did for us than to sit in judgement and bash eachother…..God Bless
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:32am
  SNOOP, bashing and sharing the Gospel are two different things, and it’s evident you prefer the former over the latter.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:19am
He will not authorize the acceptance of homosexual marriage in the Catholic Church . But i’m guessing the next Pope will.

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- LRC
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:51am
  Nope
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:08am
  The beauty of the Catholic Faith to me is simply that it’s the SAME yesterday, today and tomorrow. It is the ROCK that Jesus asked Peter to build His Church upon. In a world where people run around hysterically trying to be ‘all things to all people’ the Catholic faith is rock solid. Yes, because there are sinful human beings (all of us as we were born into a world of sin) there will be incidents of sin…Satan roams around trying to discourage us, defeat us, make us doubt the very existence of GOD. If any one out there is experiencing this doubt, turn back to God and ask for His help. Satan loses of course but don’t let yourself become one of his victories!
  When you go to any Catholic Church for the first time you will notice that all of the people come to worship, rich, poor, inbetween. All over the world the same lessons are taught that day. The service is the same world wide. Christ is present and the Alter becomes a tiny view of Heaven for those who have ears and eyes to see. It is not a place where personalities compete…it is the pure word of God. You will notice that people are not dressed like peacocks and/or looking around to see who else is there; you will come to understand that the Truth is spoken there. There is nothing about the Catholic Church that outsiders try to say: “we worship statues” etc. Go see for yourselves.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:12am
  1) While Peter was central in the early spread of the gospel (part of the meaning behind Matthew 16:18-19), the teaching of Scripture, taken in context, nowhere declares that he was in authority over the other apostles or over the entire church (see Acts 15:1-23; Galatians 2:1-14; 1 Peter 5:1-5). Nor is it ever taught that the bishop of Rome was to have primacy over the church. More: http://www.gotquestions.org/papal-infallibility.html
  
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- God_Is_Not
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:35am
  “The beauty of the Catholic Faith to me is simply that it’s the SAME yesterday, today and tomorrow.”
  
  Just like their stance on Limbo.
- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:44am
  PATTY…I’m not a Catholic “basher”, but to claim that the Catholic church is “the same yesterday, today and tomorrow”, it to be willfully ignorant of history…what about things like purgatory? COMPLETELY fabricated by the church to try and “win over” the peasants of the day. This is just one of a dozen examples of “the church” trying to change its doctrine to win people over.
  
  Again, I don’t have any problem with catholics, ALL faiths have good and bad people/doctrine…but let’s not pretend that the Catholic church has been some unmovable rock or something.
  
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- GO-FOR-LIBERTY
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:58am
  He had better not. Want to see a real revolution? Possible collapse of the Catholic Church. Just go against all teachings and I’m done.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:45am
  Peter wasent the first pope Constantine was
  
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- PK_SEA
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:35pm
  @Patty Henry – Well said. Thank you.
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:52pm
  “The beauty of the Catholic Faith to me is simply that it’s the SAME yesterday, today and tomorrow.”
  
  PATTY: I am under the impression that God alone is immutable. Here is the actual verse from Hebrews 13:8: “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.” I’m sure it was an oversight, but your version substitutes “Catholic Faith” for Jesus Christ.
  
  I’ll defend Jesus Christ all day long, but I wouldn’t have any part in defending ANY physical church. I’ve read quite a bit of what you’ve written in this forum and I agree with much of it, but I think if we knew each other the only place we would be able to have real fellowship is around Christ. “And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ (I Corinthians 10:4). When Jesus calls Peter by name, he uses the word Petros. When he references the Rock upon which He will build His church, He uses the word petra. Which if read in context seems to refer back to verses 15 and 16: “He saith unto them, ‘But whom say ye that I am?’ And Simon Peter answered and said, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God’” (Matthew 15-18). It is not on Simon Peter but on the Christ that Jesus says He will build His church–On Himself. Peter is more like shifting sand than a rock. We see him resisting Christ, like all we sinners do, even in Acts 10:14 after Pentacost.
  
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Miami
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:17am
Does anyone else get the feeling the guy in the White House may through his name in the hat…? After all there are those that see him as a “Holey” figure… sorry

At least it would make Hollywierd believe in the “c”hurch…? He already has a cult following

Seriously, It is not meant as an offence on Christianity

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- SonOfThunder
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:45am
  No offense taken by Christians since Catholics are not Christian. It is a cult. I would put the bamster in the running since the anti Christ comes from Rome according to the Bible. the Book of Daniel clearly states that the Antichrist will come from among the people whose armies destroy the Temple.
  
  “A ruler will arise whose armies will destroy the city and the Temple.” Daniel 9:26
- msconstrue
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:10am
  @sonof(something)….catholics are not christian? please explain. ’cause i’m sure i’ve spent my entire life serving Christ.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:24am
  Wow. I missed that directive of the Holy Spirit. When, exactly, were you ordained by God to determine who is or is not His follower?
  
  Are we to simply send you a letter to determine if our faith is good enough for you or is there some formal process for us to find out if you approve of us?
  
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- XRavishX
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:35am
  Sonof, are you an idiot? You do realize that all other sects of Christianity actually stem from the Catholic church, right? Catholics are the ORIGINAL Christians. If you think that Catholocism is simply a cult, then what about everyone else?
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:35am
  @MSCONTRUE
  
  Though I am not Catholic, I recognize you as a Christian – and I recognize your Pope as an inspired man of God.
  
  I applaud the job that Pope Benedict XVI has done and pray the Cardinals choose a Pope worthy to lead your church through the difficult times that lie ahead.
  
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- grimjack3791
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:53am
  Sonof thunder, you are so wrong it boggles the mind.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:58am
  @Brother_Ed said it best. I’m not a Catholic because I don’t believe in the dogma and traditions and rituals of the Catholic church; but I never doubt for a second that Catholics are Christians. Next to Mormons (another denomination I don’t see eye-to-eye with, yet nevertheless consider my fellow brothers in Christ), the kindest Christians I’ve known have been Catholic. I hope the resignation of Pope Benedict causes no schism or issue in the RCC.
  
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- SonOfThunder
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:13am
  For example just in the pope’s case. The RCC says the pope is infallible. Only Jesus is infallible. He is not the Holy Father as your religion calls him. God is the Holy Father. The pope is not the head of the Church. Jesus is. He calls himself the vicar here on earth. No no the Holy Spirit is.
  
  You are practicing a pagan religion worshipping saints and statues. You pray to Mary and worship her. That is idolatry my friend. You are breaking the 1st and 2nd Commandment. Mary is not an intercessor to God. Only Jesus alone can do that. Your priest cannot forgive your sins. That is absurd. Why would you confess your sins to a priest? What if that priest was a pedophile? Do you think your sins are forgiven by a sinning priest? Why would you go to a priest for marriage counseling, the man has never been married.
  
  You can not find a bible in a Catholic Church. Study your bible not some man made catechism. You are being duped. You have the wrong Jesus in that church. The pope is a joke. He is a sinner and needs to repent and trust in Jesus alone or he and the rest of his flock will be in the lake of fire at final judgement. It is not to late for you. Repent and trust in Jesus alone. Not in works or being good or infant baptism or indulgences and on and on.
  
  By the way folks, if you even read the bible you would know Jesus referred James and John as the Sons of Thunder.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:22am
  SONOFBALONEY is just one of our ” needy ” atheist Trolls who has a special love of targeting the Catholic Church. Knows it gets attention that way….
  
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- lenkia
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:24am
  non taken — but you to you SonOfThunder
  Christian means follower of Christ Jesus — Catholics are Christians and I am Roman Catholic and I have been crying over this because I am a former student of the Catholic Schools and the way the world is today I was praying for Papa to get well and stay as Papa. (Papa = Pope).
  
  Peter was the first pope as Jesus said – “Upon this Rock, I shall build my Church.” And He told Simon Peter this — He would make him a fisher among men. I am a Christian, and will never deny Jesus! He is the way, the truth and the Light!
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:30am
  Jesus said: Who do you say that I am? Mark 8:29. That is the most important question a “Christian” might ask himself.
  
  Mormons are not your “brothers in Christ,” unless the attributes of that “christ” are those of a man, a total and separate being from the Father, a “spirit child” — one of many, the physical offspring of the mating of a mother god and a father god. http://tinyurl.com/8o2uzzl http://tinyurl.com/9e4ec97
  
  The Christian Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of the Father, who is Spirit and never was a man, by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary. The Christian Jesus said: John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.”
  
  I consider Catholicism a pseudo-Christian cult. It wasn’t until 200 years after Christ’s death that they said oh yeah, by the way, we claim apostolic progression and authority. Unfortunately there are no miracles, signs and wonders to support such a claim.
  
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- Marms
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:37am
  I have to laugh when Catholics claim that they were the first Christians. Too funny! Jesus was of no religion, never mentions Catholics in the bible. Being a Christ-ian ( follower of Christ) doesn’t involve any denomination. It’s a relationship with God.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:37am
  THUNDER is spot on. Thank you for saving me all that tying.
  
  I’ve been a Bible believing Christian since I studied my way out of the RCC 30 years ago, so you can’t claim that people who denigrate the RCC are simply ignorant and unlearned. I submit that quite the contrary is the case. Pride is our worst enemy.
  
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- Marms
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:40am
  Sonofthunder, your last post is spot on! Amen!
  
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- AVoo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:51am
  Yeah, I really believe Obama will become the next and first Black Pope and will use his army of gays to establish a new church. After all, his dream is to have a gay-atheist-muslim Catholic church!
  
  DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK THAT OBAMA FORCED THE POPE TO RESIGN?!
  
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- 2GodBeTheGlory
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:52am
  @SonOfThunder
  
  Although I am not a Catholic, Mormon, or any of the other variants of Christianity, I do believe that SOME are Christians. I nor you can determine who is a Christian, ever, and to even think so is wrong. We are called to be watchful, yes, diligent, yes, we are to always keep our eyes upon God and keep ourselves and family in HIS will. Understand that YOU do not make the final call on who and who is not going to have every lasting life, however, I can tell you what ACTIONS are not of Christ.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:58am
  @THEOTHERBEREAN
  
  I have seen many anti-Mormon and anti-Catholic comments from you on several articles.
  
  I can only say one thing – a quote that I heard a Latter Day Saint say before a debate with someone of another denomination – “Don’t tell me what I believe, tell me what you believe.”
  
  Unless you are a member of a faith, it is difficult to articulate their doctrine, because you lack their point of view.
  
  If you are a former member, you have a chip on your shoulder.
  
  Either way, your statements regarding their beliefs cannot be accurate, no matter how much you think you know about them.
  
  It is like an atheist saying religion is a crock, unless the live it they won’t know, and if they left a church tit is possible that they are just disgruntled.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:21am
  @SON OF THUNDER I share your views..I was taken by a friend on the Walk of Emaues last summer and having heard about it for many years looked forward to a deeper experience with God..I was highly disspointied.. Not having known, it was a Christian and Catholics together which was started by the order of the Jesuit Priests..it was the longest 3 days of my life..although most thought it enhanced their walk with God.. Jesus said “I did not come to judge the world..but to save the world..My word judges you..and 1 Cor 6:9 says who will not enter the kingdom of heaven..neither fornicators..adulterers..homosexuals..drunkards..thieves nor “idolators” will enter (unless they repent and turn away and follow Jesus)..Jesus also said to pray to Him in the name of the Father..not to Mary..not to Saints..A former Catholic called me this morning and told me about the Pope..he believes that this will be the last one..
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:36am
  Hey Ed, I am not “anti-Mormon or Catholic. All Christians are instructed to “remain in that which we have been taught” (meaning that which is in the Bible) and expose all other gospels as heresy. Since Mormons and Catholics like to include themselves in my church, and include extra Biblical teaching in their doctrines, it is my job to point out excursions into error..
  
  What about the anti-Christian comments that come from LDS founders, prophets and apostles, (which curiously can only be found in 3 of your standard works?) Surely you’ve seen them also, since they routinely accompany the “many” of my comments that you claim to have seen. Why do you pick and choose which ones are anti Mormon and which ones are not? Most of my comments come directly from Mormon literature. It is your religions own worst enemy, when it comes to exposing the false teachings of Mormonism, if one knows where to look. They don’t make it easy for you to discover the truth though. How is posting references from these LDS sites, bashing Mormons? That “LDS point of view” which you say I lack, is not hindering me from discovering the truth about Mormonism, it is only a detriment to you because you refuse to look beyond the Mormon influence.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:47am
  Son Of Thunder and theotherberean are not Atheist trolls, they are simply typical right wing Christians spewing the under current of hate towards Catholics that their always in America. The protests agaisnt he NYC Downtown Islamic center pale in comparison to the violence that erupted against towards the catholics when the First St. Patricks was being constructed in lower Manhattan. The Vatican donated a stone for the Washington Monument that was destroyed by the Know-Nothing Party. The Fighting 69th leads the St. Patrick Day parade because in the early years they were needed to protect the Catholics marching from the Protestants in the city. The bigotry of American Right Wing Christrians is as old as the Republic.
- lenkia
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:01am
  theotherberean and Marms Catholics were the first Christians – as many of them were former Jews and some Gentiles like St. Luke. I will pray for you because you don’t believe that I am a true follower of Christ.
  
  Catholics believe that Mormons are a cult — but they feel that they are Christian — as long as they Believe that Jesus is the Son of God and follow His laws than I will call them my brothers and sisters.
  
  I pray for everyone including those who don’t know Jesus yet and those who have gone away from Him. Including those who don’t believe the truth about the Churches History.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:04am
  Humility is an attribute of the Savior.
  
  I can admit that I do not know everything and that I may be wrong.
  
  I believe that as we continue to seek, we shall find.
  
  I believe that not all members of my church (or any church) are all at the same level of understanding – we are all learning.
  
  I do not chastise someone who does not have the same level of understanding I have for their ignorance, I allow them to learn. Nor would I appreciate being chastised by someone who has a higher level of understanding than me.
  
  Eventually, if you dig deep enough, you get to a point where an adherent – especially a founder – has to say: “We are right, you are wrong”, but civility requires us to acknowledge the divisiveness of such a statement and we should do our best to avoid contention.
  
  The Holy Ghost will testify of the truthfulness of our testimony, that should be our goal; to speak the truth in order that the Spirit may testify to its validity.
  
  This is not done by demeaning another – that is the spirit of contention, which comes from the adversary.
  
  I realize that many of our doctrines are different than other denominations and, yes, that is because we believe the philosophies of man have crept into the church, but I don’t go to people of other denominations and say, “God thinks your church is an abomination.”
  
  Jesus allowed people to NOT follow him, and I try to emulate him.
  
  My salvation is not dependent on your belief, nor is yours dependent on mine.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:12am
  @THEOTHERBEREAN
  
  Furthermore, to quote Joseph Smith when he said Heavenly Father and Jesus told him not to join any churches; that they were all an abomination to Him is disingenuous, he was simply relating the account of his first vision.
  
  Any other leaders quotes (of which there are many to that effect) are either direct answers to direct questions, or they are taken out if context, or they are intended for the ears of the members of the church.
  
  I’m sure we can find many quotes from leaders of many modern churches that are similar when asked why I should join their particular church instead of the church down the road – few churches would say, when pushed, that any church you go to us ok. They all think their way is best – you included!
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:25am
  ED, Jesus had no problem chastising the Pharisees, using words like whitewashed tombs and vipers, devouring widows, when they were in error. He spoke the truth, sometimes with a sarcastic and even a demeaning tone, and it is His Words that I use to separate truth from the lies and traditions of men. I use Mormon literature to expose the heresy taught by the LDS.
  
  Since the Bible says all men are liars, perhaps you should do the same. Just being a nice guy and sucking up to those in error, being careful not to offend, certainly won’t assure your salvation, nor do anything to help those you are attempting to correct, to gain theirs if you only coddle them they feel comfy in their error.. Beck says to question with boldness. I think Beck should take his own advise when it comes to Mormonism, and start questioning. Perhaps you should too?
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:45am
  @ENCINOM….You are correct in that Son of Thunder and THe Other Berean are not trolls..but you are incorrect in saying that they are spewing hatred..How is telling truth spewing hatred? The Bible is the word of God inspired of the Holy Spirit of God..If you read the Bible and asked for guidance by the Holy Spirit..then you would see for yourself..God said..Listen to no man..I will teach you..Son of Thunder has told you the truth..as for purgatory..it is my understanding that those in Christ upon death will go to a place of heavenly rest..while those not in Christ will go to a place of torment to await the Great White Throne Judgement.. There are none so blind as those who will not see..but how can you see when you don’t go to God the Father of Jesus directly? Let no man teach you..investigate the word of God for yourself..
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:54am
  ENCINOM if anyone is less qualified to offer an opinion of someone else’s motives, it is you. And especially if they are mine.
  
  LENKIA, the RCC is not the first Church, the Church that Jesus started is the first church. The RCC never came into existence until the 3rd century. And I never said you are not a true follower of Christ. I said the Roman Catholic Religion is a pseudo-Christian cult, based upon the fact that it places its own traditions (of men) over the Word of God.
  
  ED where does the Bible say we are to avoid contention at all cost, when it comes to pointing out heresy?
  
  How can an argument designed to expose Joseph Smith as a heretic, possibly be disingenuous by quoting Joseph Smith? That notion is astounding, if not laughable.
  
  Mormon doctrines are a direct attack on Christianity, because you use the same words to describe entirely different things, and use the familiarity of those words to deceive people into believing Mormonism is a Christian religion, founded on the teachings of Jesus Christ. Nothing could be further from the truth, and if you find that revelation offensive, you are either misinformed or not being intellectually honest with yourself.
  
  You can’t find a church (other than the CJCLDS) calling itself Christian, that insists that God is not Spirit but instead was once a man as we are, or that the true Jesus Christ is really someone other than who the Bible speaks of, but shares that same name.
  
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- SonOfThunder
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:30pm
  @otherbearean, marms, ashes… Thank you for sharing God’s love which is the Gospel of Jesus. Like me you are doing what Matthew 28 19 says which is make disciples of all the nations. Catholics, Mormons, Muslims and atheist all need to to hear the truth and ultimately they make their decision, I see your love for everyone in your posts. I pray daily for the lost and ask for wisdom to say the right words to these non believers.
  
  For Catholics, Mormons, Atheists, and Muslims repent and put your trust in Jesus and yo will be saved.
  Romans 10 9-10
  9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:42pm
  Always interesting when our atheist / divider / anarchist Trolls do their Group Speak deal ! They create their own Support Group.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:00pm
  Hey Barber, whose the troll?
  
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- saranda
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:16pm
  Sonofthunder – your post of “Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:13am” may have set some kind of new standard. There is not a single point you made that is true on any level. You may believe them to be true and I know many people live by the adage that “perception is reality”, but they should live by “truth is reality”. You should invest some time in gaining knowledge not passing on myth and innuendo.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:39pm
  @otherbearean, Son of Thunder and others that are spewing hatred towards Catholics and the Catholic Church and using the Bible to do see fail to see or understand the irony. The Bible itself is a creation of the Catholic Church, Protestant sects added to it or removed certain gospels. The list of gospels that was to become the New Testament was created during the Council of Trent in 1543.
  
  The Right Wingers should learn their history.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:51pm
  ENCINOM, I’ve taught you everything I know and you STILL don’t know anything. You don’t have a clue, do you.
  
  Take a peek here: http://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 4:15pm
  SonOfThunder, theotherberean, ashestoashes
  
  Wow, the Arrogance, Mighty is he how believe he has all the answers, to Believe one has the Capacity to understand the Lord’s plan. I may be wrong but I doubt I am, Did Jesus Christ not say yeah without sin cast the first stone…? Do not judge yet yeah be judged..?
  
  While my first comment was on the Arrogance of the guy in the White House, little did I expect that same level of Arrogance here but you’ve proven me wrong.
  
  All I can say is that I will pray for you, may the Lord fill your hearts with the Love and Truth.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 4:20pm
  @ theotherberean Your new link only proves my point of a Roman Catholic origin to the Bible. But than a gain, closed minded anti-catholic bigots know little about the origins of their faith and instead follow the teachings of hate mongers.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:03pm
  @MIAMI..No offense meant..and if you want to call us arrogant..then you might try reading the Bible for yourself..I will admit..when you know not much or nothing of God’s word..then what we say might sound arrogant..but this came from the Creator of the Universe..not us..Try reading John 12:48
  He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:25am
  MIAMI, what ASHES said.
  
  ENCIMON, loudmouths like you you are the reason God gave people two ears and only one mouth.
  
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- Miami
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:14pm
  ashestoashes, theotherberean
  Once again you fall into the position of judgement, you are judging me as if you knew me and my knowledge of the Truth. As Inigo Montoya said “I do not think it means what you think it means”
  
  John 12:48
  
  Dose not give you the power to judge but warns you not to judge or are you putting yourself in the place of the Lord..?
  
  Once again you show your arrogance, last I check it was a sin
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:38am
  Hey MIAMI, who is judging who here? I’m sharing my thoughts and beliefs, and I welcome anyone and everyone to disagree. In fact, why else would I be here making the arguments I do if I wasn’t looking to be challenged? I absolutely LOVE a theological debate. Stop whining and bring it on. Prove wrong. Please!
  
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RightUnite
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:17am
Doesn’t surprise me in the least…. He never wanted the job in the first place.

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- iampraying4u
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:57am
  quiters never win and winners never quit
  
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The-Monk
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:11am
Breaking a 600 years old record….

Sounds like another global warming climate change story.

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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:39am
  I blame George Bush
  
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- lenkia
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:09am
  I blame those who were putting pressure on him — as many pope’s have felt pressure from those wishing to corrupt the church.
  
  Christians are followers of Christ Jesus – Including all Catholics and Protestants.
  
  By the way Jesuits are known for their communist ties you should try to talk to Franciscans, Dominicans, Benedictines or Augustinians — which are other orders in the Catholic Church. I am more or less a third order Franciscans and I pray for my country, family, friends and every who asks me to pray for them — including those who hate Catholics.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:01pm
  I don’t think anyone hates Catholics. Maybe Mormons, but those who read the Bible regularly find much error in the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, but we don’t hate you for being willingly deceived.
  
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Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:06am
Check out our new advertising troll…

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/10/what-kind-of-video-would-we-post-to-say-happy-birthday-to-glenn-beck/

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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:05am
Isn’t there just one Pope left on the list.. ?

MEANING The next Pope , is the last Pope.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:12am
  I had the same thought when I heard this.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:23am
  Hoot Owl and Gonzo……………My first thought too.
  
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- tweetybird
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:58am
  My thoughts exactly. You can read this in the Prophecies of Saint Malachy.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:59am
  what does that mean?
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:11am
  Google it Soy. You’ll find it easy enough. It’s been around a lot longer than the internet btw.
  
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- rjtaurus605
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:13am
  I am Catholic, and it is something to be taken very seriously for a Pope to resign, to me it means that he believes we are entering very evil times and that he does not have the strength to lead.
  
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- KickinBack
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:25am
  Peter the Roman. Though the church has never really officially acknowledged the prophecy of St. Malachy, (well, he’s still a Saint after all) it’s amazing how close it’s been followed. Here’s a link.
  
  http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:26am
  @RJTAURUS605
  
  Interesting conclusion…
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:39am
  @Kickinback
  
  “Though the church has never really officially acknowledged the prophecy of St. Malachy, (well, he’s still a Saint after all) it’s amazing how close it’s been followed.”
  
  Not really. Say you have a prophecy already, and you’re in charge of selecting the next pope. All you need to do is look at the prophecy and line it up with some criteria of the next pope. That’s why Malachy’s prophecy is so silly. It’s like saying “The next pope’s line is about apples! And OH MY GOODNESS! We picked a crest that has an apple on it! The prophecy is fulfilled AGAIN!”
  
  Not to mention the lines have been interpreted incredibly broadly to “align” with the popes; they’ve referred to birth places, things that happen during the papacy, papal symbols, etc.
  
  It’s even easier if you’re looking at past popes (and are the one writing the prophecy). You already know who they all are, and some details of their lives. So just write the lines to include those details. Voila! Prophecy! And this is exactly how it was believed to have been created in the first place in the late 16th century.
  
  The prophecy of Malachy is convincing in the same way that a card trick is convincing – if you never bother to look closely it’s easy to be amazed. As soon as you learn how it work, the magic is lost.
  
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- USACommoner
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:32am
  Hoot, exactly what I thought when I heard the news this morning. The person who replaces this Pope will be the last in line, according to prophesy. Read the book Petrus Romanus by Thomas Horn.
  
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willingtoupe
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:03am
Would be awesome to have a first black Pope like Desmond Tu Tu as his successor. But then again Roman Catholicism would experience a rapid decline because in many minds, worldwide would play, “Why in the hell would I kiss a ring that is on some black hands, let alone cry in his presences. I am better than that!” So the Vatican wouldn’t waste their traditional millennium racist time to even pick one.

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- RightUnite
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:16am
  Ah, no…. I don’t want to have a “Black” pope, just because of his color…. Look what happened when we did that for President… No thanks…..
  
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- BehindBlueEyes
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:21am
  Why would it be awesome to have a black pope? Is there something about skin color that would make him awesome?
  
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- Alexander_van_der_sluis
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:22am
  Desmond tutu isnt roman catholic hes anglican so that would be a very radical choice
  
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- Capt_Gregg
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:31am
  @WILLINGTOUPE
  Once again, an uninformed moron makes an inane comment.
  
  Tuto is not Roman Catholic, he is an Anglican.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:44am
  So, the election of the next Pope should be based on skin color?
  
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- willingtoupe
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:52am
  Hey Captain Greg, I love the Avatar Toilet paper.
  
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- BehindBlueEyes
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:40am
  @CAPT_GREGG
  It didn’t matter to Mr. Willing whether TuTu was catholic. It was purely a figment of his imagination. His comment was just the pretext to justify himself ******* on the church.
  
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- Capt_Gregg
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:24am
  @BEHINDBLUEEYES
  Yep. Just another PC troll. with no grasp on reality.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:59am
  There is a very good chance that the next pope will be either African or South American. These are the only two areas in the world where Catholics are increasing. It makes good political sense. We will see.
  
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- Whatever...
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:21pm
  Only natural-born citizens can be pope. Make ‘em show a full birth certificate first. Fool me once…
  
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- Whatever...
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:24pm
  Of course, in certain southern states, a black pope might also be known as “pope on a rope”.
  
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- Dougsopinion
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:41pm
  Why in the hell would you kiss anybody”s hand with a ring on it, black, white, or any other color for that matter? He’s not GOD.
  
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DeVain
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:03am
Prophecy of the Popes…….

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- lel2007
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:36am
  “Is “Malachy’s” prophecy legitimate? Probably not. The consensus among modern scholars is that it is a 16th-century forgery created for partisan political reasons.
  
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- lenkia
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:55am
  See John Paul II — yes the prophecy was actually referring to John Paul II and Benedict XVI — that is how I was taught it by nuns. I hope that there is one more pope and that he’s is not the one in league with the final anti-Christ.
  
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balij
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:02am
Read Pope Benedict Resignation letter Exclusively at

http://wallstnews.blogspot.com/

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freeberty
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:56am
Considering the news of corruption out of the Vatican the past year,this smells like a power grab by the the remaining pedophiles, over a demented old man in diapers.
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- haras42000
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:13am
  or it could be so that someone stronger is able to take over for what awakes us in this EVIL WORLD.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:55am
I hope they don’t put in someone named Ahmed or Mahmoud….

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- barber2
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:24am
  He’d be killed by the Islamic crazies before he could be installed !
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:49am
Here is the crux of the matter, nearly one billion Catholics are on the earth and now we shall see the election of a new Pope. How will this effect the future?

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Grasshopper42
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:48am
Roman Catholicism – just another false religion. Who cares . . .
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:08am
  Grasshopper
  
  How is the snake handling going? Speak in tongues yet with the serpent?
  
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XaviorOnassis
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:39am
Almost unprecedented…certainly it has been 400 or maybe 500 years since the previous resignation of a sitting pope and then the decision was due to politics, not ill health.

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- GO-FOR-LIBERTY
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:09am
  Actually it’s 600 years. The Anti-Christ cometh!
  
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SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:39am
Oh Oh…If I remember my bible prophecy correctly,the next Pope is suppose to promote the one world religion and the world government…….I was hoping Benedict would remain Pope for a long time.

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:48am
  There is a story surrounding the next Pope shall be the last to reign in Vatican city.
  
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- Jelly_Belly
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:06am
  I’ve never seen any bible prophecy that even closely resembles that. Please cite your Scripture.
  
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- Exidor
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:13am
  The Prophecy of St. Malachy.
  
  Google it.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:26am
  I expect yet more evil to come of this.
  
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- Jelly_Belly
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:31am
  @ Exidor,
  
  The prophecy of St. Malachy is not in the bible. Statements by church fathers are not, and should not be regarded as, Scripture.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:10am
  There is just as much proof that what I am writing this very second is the inspired word of god as there is for the bible being so…
  
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- TheEndIsComing
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:36am
  Read Revelation 17:9-11
  
  “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. (Revelation 17:9-11 NKJV)
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 9:39am
  TheDoors: “There is just as much proof that what I am writing this very second is the inspired word of god as there is for the bible being so…” If you want to have some credibility, quit making baseless, shallow arguments. I suppose you have multiple manuscripts thousands of years old that have been tirelessly compared with one another and analyzed by scholars who have spent their lives reading the scriptures in the original languages. Is that the kind of support you have for that drivel you posted? Or is there still fecal matter clinging to it from whence you pulled it?
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:12am
  @INeedawitness
  Nothing you said did anything to show that the bible is the inspired word of god. I never said that what I am saying is old. Gawd is speaking through me at this very moment..
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:49am
  Doors: If one dedicates himself to study the scriptures, the internal consistency becomes obvious. There is historical support for the veracity of the scriptures. There were hundreds of people who saw and testified to the life of Chirst. Every Apostle was dramatically changed at Pentacost when they received the Holy Spirit. The prophets themselves testify that the Word is inspired. Scripture claims to be inspired and that is a theme consistent throughout. The fulfillment of the prophecies concerning Christ’s first advent should be enough to convice most people. But I doubt if you could be convinced by any kind of evidence. What do you gain from your attempt to spread your poison? I doubt anyone here takes you seriously. Since your thoughts are so small and immature regarding Christianity and the Scripture, why don’t you find another interest?
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:44am
  The problem is, this conversation requires more than 1500 characters.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:25pm
  Hmm, using the bible as evidence for the bibles authenticity. What I am saying right now is the word of god, if you doubt it, just read again because I am telling you this is true. Oh and my buddy right here agrees and sees it too…”yep this is the word of god”. See? My goal? For people to stop believing in things that hurt themselves and other people because they believe The Lord of The Rings is reality. Beliefs matter.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:39pm
  DOOROFIMPERCEPTION were you always so misinformed about the Bible or is this a recent thing?
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:13pm
  I’m not misinformed about the bible…I have read the bible…and I have read many books on the bible. None by apologist scholars though…only scholars who don’t have a belief that needs fulfilling…delusion is a tricky thing.
  
  “A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind.”
  
  — Robert Oxton Bolt
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:13pm
  DOORSOFREJECTION, yes you are ignorant of what the Bible teaches, and pitifully so. Perhaps because you place your trust in the musings of a playwrights rather than the learned studies of Biblical scholars?
  
  Perhaps you’re just angry because God won’t live up to your expectations for Him? After all, it’s all about you, right?
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 3:43pm
  I’m not angry at all…I’m an extremely happy person!!! Now, the damage delusional beliefs do to people and society are a little frustrating…but I’m doing my best to mock them into antiquity. Why would I care about the expectations of something I don’t believe in? Are you angry because unicorns don’t live up to your expectations?
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:37am
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I hope they will pick someone to replace him that will reform the church with a cleansing….

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- chucksue351
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:48am
  it’s called the Torah
  
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:24am
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  No more like a Vice Raid…..
  
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- Whatever...
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:42pm
  The next papal election will be audience participation. Just text the number of the candidate you want to 7673 (POPE):
  
  1. The Dalai Lama
  2. Father Guido Sarducci
  3. Rev. Jeremiah Wright
  4. Pastor Terry Jones
  
  Vote early and vote often!
  
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bobinmichigan
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:37am
Google St Malachy prophecy and be blessed. Look up for your redemption draws near!

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:49am
  Jesus is coming back from Outer Space!!!! I hope he brings lasers!!!
- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:21pm
  DOORSOFIMPERCEPTION… better spark another blunt, eh?
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:26pm
  I don’t smoke or drink…
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:29pm
  Maybe I should start. It could help me believe that human sacrifice actually works and that god sent himself to save us from himself. You have to be high on dogma to believe that
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 12:41pm
  Well you have to be high on something to believe all the garbage that you do.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:14pm
  Did you just repeat what I said? haha
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 1:17pm
  Yeah I’m high, on truth, reality, and reason baby! Do you believe in all things supernatural? Allah, all the god’s in india, greek mythology, esp, ghosts, astrology, remote viewing, witches, goblins, demons, angles, fairies, jinns? Just curious how far your delusion goes…
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 2:24pm
  DOORSOFDECEPTION
  
  I think you’re high on yourself Sort of like ED, but on steroids.
  
  What is your standard of truth? Yourself.
  What is your standard of reason? Yourself
  What is your standard of reality? Your own!
  
  And if you really have read the Bible, even once, you know that all of those things you mentioned are not Christian beliefs.
  
  Delusion? Yes. Obviously there is much.
  
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ThoreauHD
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:33am
Oh crap.. Peter the Roman. Meet the Omega, and the end of our little stroll humanity lane.

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- bertr
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 7:51am
  That’s just what I was thinking when I saw the front page of drudge, no one seems to know or be talking about the pope prophecy this triggers
  
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hillbillyinny
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:32am
Viva la Papa! and many prayers for God’s Servant, Benedict XVI, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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The-Monk
Posted on February 11, 2013 at 6:31am
…and he was such a young man who just got started in his new career.

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- barber2
  Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:25am
  Don’t you wish Obama would follow his excellent example !?
  
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