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New Details: Dramatic Standoff With Alleged Cop Killer Christopher Dorner Ends in Flames at Cabin

Feb. 12, 2013 8:53pm Jason Howerton

Redlands Police officers man a blockade near the entrance to the San Bernardino National Forest in southern California after Christopher Dorner, a fugitive ex-Los Angeles cop sought in three killings, engaged in a shootout with authorities that wounded two officers in the San Bernardino Mountains near Big Bear Lake, Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2013. Credit: AP

BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. (TheBlaze/AP) — The manhunt for the former Los Angeles police officer suspected of going on a killing spree converged Tuesday on a mountain cabin where authorities believe he barricaded himself inside, engaged in a shootout that killed a deputy and then never emerged as the home went up in flames.

A single gunshot was heard from within.

If the body of Christopher Dorner is found inside, as authorities suspect, the search for the most wanted man in America over the last week would have ended the way he had expected – death, with the police pursuing him.

Thousands of officers had been on the hunt for the former Navy reservist since police said he launched a campaign to exact revenge against the Los Angeles Police Department for his firing. They say he threatened to bring “warfare” to officers and their families, spreading fear and setting off a search for him across the Southwest and Mexico.

“Enough is enough. It’s time for you to turn yourself in. It’s time to stop the bloodshed,” LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said at a news conference held outside police headquarters in Los Angeles, a starkly different atmosphere than last week when Dorner was on the loose and officials briefed the news media under heavy security in an underground hallway.

A short time after Smith spoke Tuesday, smoke began to rise from the cabin in the snow-covered woods near Big Bear Lake, a resort town about 80 miles east of Los Angeles. Flames then engulfed the building – images that were broadcast on live television around the world. TV helicopters showed the fire burning freely with no apparent effort to extinguish it.

Watch some of the raw footage below:

“We have reason to believe that it is him,” said San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Cynthia Bachman, adding that she didn’t know how the fire started. She noted there was gunfire between the person in the cabin and officers around the home before the blaze began.

Until Tuesday, authorities didn’t know whether Dorner was still near Big Bear Lake, where they found his burned-out pickup last week.

Around 12:20 p.m. Tuesday, deputies got a report of a stolen pickup truck, authorities said. The location was directly across the street from where law enforcement set up their command post on Thursday and not far from where Dorner’s pickup was abandoned. The owner of the vehicle taken Tuesday described the suspect as looking similar to Dorner.

A warden for the California Department of Fish and Wildlife traveling down Highway 38 recognized a man who fit Dorner’s description traveling in the opposite direction. The officer pursued the vehicle and there was a shooting at 12:42 p.m. in which the wildlife vehicle was hit numerous times and the suspect escaped on foot after crashing his truck.

After holing up in the cabin, there was a second gunbattle with San Bernardino County deputies, two of whom were shot. One died and the other was expected to live after undergoing surgery.

“We’re heartbroken,” Big Bear Lake Mayor Jay Obernolte said of the deputy’s death and the wounding of his colleague. “Words can’t express how grateful we are for the sacrifice those men have made in defense of the community and our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families.”

The man believed to be Dorner never came out of the cabin, and a single shot was heard inside before the cabin was engulfed in flames, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

The official later told the AP that a charred body was found in the burned cabin and reiterated that even after Los Angeles and San Bernardino authorities disputed it in news conferences. The official requested anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

Earlier, a SWAT team surrounded the cabin and used an armored vehicle to break out the cabin windows, the official said. The officers then pumped a gas into the cabin and blasted a message over a loudspeaker: “Surrender or come out.”

The armored vehicle then tore down each of the cabin’s four walls, like peeling back the layers of an onion, the official said.

Police say Dorner began his run on Feb. 6 after they connected the slayings of a former police captain’s daughter and her fiance with an angry Facebook rant they said he posted. Threats against the LAPD led officials to assign officers to protect officers and their families.

Within hours of the release of photos of the 6-foot, 270-pounder described as armed and “extremely dangerous,” police say, Dorner unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego to flee to Mexico and opened fire on two patrol cars in Riverside County, shooting three officers and killing one.

Jumpy officers guarding one of the targets named in the rant shot and injured two women delivering newspapers Thursday in Torrance because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner’s.

Police found weapons and camping gear inside the charred truck in Big Bear. Helicopters using heat-seeking technology searched the forest from above while scores of officers, some using bloodhounds, scoured the ground and checked hundreds of vacation cabins – many vacant this time of year – in the area.

A snowstorm hindered the search and may have helped cover his tracks, though authorities were hopeful he would leave fresh footprints if hiding in the wilderness.

Dorner’s anger with the department dated back at least five years, when he was fired for filing a false report accusing his training officer of kicking a mentally ill suspect. Dorner, who is black, claimed in the rant that he was the subject of racism by the department and fired for doing the right thing.

He said he would get even with those who wronged him as part of his plan to reclaim his good name.

“You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!” the rant said. “You have awoken a sleeping giant.”

Chief Charlie Beck, who initially dismissed the allegations in the rant, said reopened the investigation into his firing – not to appease the ex-officer, but to restore confidence in the black community, which long had a fractured relationship with police that has improved in recent years.

One of the targets listed in the manifesto was former LAPD Capt. Randal Quan, who represented Dorner before the disciplinary board. Dorner claimed he put the interests of the department above his.

The first victims were Quan’s daughter, Monica Quan, 28, a college basketball coach, and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, 27. They were shot multiple times in their car in a parking garage near their Orange County condo.

Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.

He left the service on Feb. 1.

This story has been updated.

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Comments (113)

thegreatcarnac
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:32pm
Dorner was a racist. Everything to him was ‘race’. I have met many minorities like that. If you failed to say good-morning to them…you were a racist. Dorner was also one who blamed others. Everything was someone elses fault and everyone was out to get him; probably because “he was black”. His ‘manifesto’ showed a lot of this thinking. He was a murderer. He murdered innocent people. He tried to rationalize it but he was a murderer in the end. He thought he was so smart and well-trained that he could declare war on a Police department and keep it up forever. He proved to be ill-prepared and stupid. He proved himself to be another criminal with wild ideas. He thought he would start a race war of sorts against the LAPD. He might have if he had been smart enought to last a little longer. He was just a common, hateful, black criminal.

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- Kisses6350
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:42am
  Your comments are racially motivated and trite! God forgive this mans soul.
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:58am
  @Kisse,
  
  Um…what? How were his comments racially motivated? Dorner was clearly a racist. Everything about him oozed racism. He hated everybody who wasn’t Black. He ascribed to Black Liberation Theology. He murdered innocents.
  
  Something is very wrong with your mind if you’re unable to understand this.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:09am
  There was no way the LAPD was going to allow a public trial.
  
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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:04am
  …and the GATES OF HELL opened up and sucked-up him and his cabbin!!!
  
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- snowboardpete
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:06am
  I totally agree. Put him with the other black racists; Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Chris Rock and the rest. Donner was a murderer, my heart goes out to the family of those he killed. Those who support Donner are sick and evil. -sp
  
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- richauthor
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:42pm
  All these tree-hugging liberals are bemoaning the fact that police “set the fire” INTENTIONALLY to kill Dorner.
  
  But it would have been alright for Obama to vaporize him with a drone?
  
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txblaze
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:12pm
Hold on….a LAPD commander is saying that the cabin is still too hot to enter and that no body has been removed from it. The cabin has not yet been searched.

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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:36pm
  Then the story of the two officers going
  after BBQ Sauce may not be true either.
  
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- Melvin Spittle
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:55pm
  Lol….I shouldn’t laugh but that was funny!
  
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- DontDoubtMyDough
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:49am
  yep it is funny did you hear the one about the sniper and the guy with ptsd? A life is a life! You ppl here seem to think that you can determine which life is valuable and which life is not! Such F*&^ing hypocrites!
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:59am
  @Dontdoubt,
  
  You think that the life of a man who would murder innocents is the same as a man who killed enemies on the battlefield? I’ll give you as much rope as you would like…please explain your “reasoning” to me.
  
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- Barbieboop
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:10pm
  I just read where they said they found his driver’s license in the cabin. Don’t licenses burn?
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 2:23pm
  DONTDOUBT
  when you have seen and done the things some
  of us has.You would know without a funny-bone
  we all would have PTSD.
  I have turned all mine over to GOD,and now
  I sleep better now. To me all life is precious.
  In a country that murders 500,000 unborn every
  year I dont have time to worry about one criminal
  Then throw in The Resident of the US and his commie
  friends Well WEll WELL???
  
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:11pm
Kill an average citizen, cops and media don’t seem to care.
Kill a cop or a relative of a cop, they will put a huge bounty on your head, hunt you down, then burn you to a crisp.

Wish the average citizen victim could get the same respect, response, and attention.

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- Rod Terrell
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:29pm
  Too many “average ” citizen getting killed each day. Who is going to put up the many rewards and pay them??? You? I think not! This should be stopped and killed if possible, he is a danger to us all. Yes there are bad cops out there but that does not mean all are bad, he was a cop too and he is the worst monster/killer around.
  Good by Dorner you won’t be missed!!
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:37pm
  Lead –
  
  You’re a moron.
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:46pm
  Just like you care more about your family and friends than you do about some strangers down the street. Just logical. They are human too.
  
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- Bullitt2008
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:52am
  LeadNotFollow- Tell that to the thousands of hard-working homicide detectives who get up in the middle of the night to respond to investigate murders and try to catch the suspects within 48 hours. How about all of the detectives and officers working on cold case homicides? Dorner cold-bloodedly killed citizens and police officers. It’s a good thing that he is dead.
  
  You should change your name to LeanForward and keep your non-logical and idiotic comments limited to your pals on the Huffington Post.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 2:27pm
  BULLITT
  Bulls-eye
  
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:03pm
Christopher Dorner said “he would get even with those who wronged him, as part of his plan to reclaim his good name”.
His good name? What the H*LL was he thinking?
Now, he will go down in history as an evil psycho cold blooded murderer.

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OlefromMN
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:01pm
The only question that remains is if this nutjob was as skilled as the media hyped him up to be, or if he was just a typical nutjob that had no intention of coming out alive. There is no “intel” to be gained from charred bones.

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Seagal45
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:36pm
Oh boo hoo, he’s dead and the cabin burned down, isn’t that just a pity? Glad they got the SOB before he killed anymore people.

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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:54pm
  Rest in he*l Dorner.
  
  Your communist manifesto praising Obama and gun control hopefully burned along with your corpse.
  
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- TEOTWASWKI
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:00am
  I am pretty upset about the cabin burning down.
  
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AUsername
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:25pm
so the goverment like in waco put gasoline and light the house on fire to kill him.

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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:37pm
  ahhh, poor guy.
  
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- RRFlyer
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:27am
  What difference would it make if he was burned to death or shot to death? Dead is dead. I wouldn’t have wanted them to take him alive anyway.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:17am
  its what to expect during gun confiscation.
  
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- TruthRules1
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:23pm
  I thought they put a flaming toilet paper ball at the end of an arrow, shot it through a window and it landed and struck the arsenal of bullets and dynamite he had stashed in the cabin.
  
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jungle J
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:25pm
he represents a large portion of his culture…They hate. they are violent . they are law breakers. they are predators.They are mentally ill.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:47pm
  and you are racist!
  
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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:56pm
  And, in the end, they die the deaths of cowards.
  
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- thegreatcarnac
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:23pm
  Oh oh…keaton played the ‘race card’. what to do…what to do…??
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:39pm
  @keaton.
  
  12% of the population (blacks) commit 60% of violent crime. That’s not racist, that’s called a fact.
  
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- whitealaskan
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:22am
  He didn’t mention race he said culture.
  
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- DIR
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:55am
  @GOODSTUFF
  
  Don’t be to hard on Keaton. He’s not here to present facts. He’s only here to make valuable left wing points from his peers. If you get enough points, you have a cache of prizes to pick form: A Barry O diamell encrusted cell phone that you can dazzle your friends with (a handsome cell phone that comes with pre recorded comments to make people thing you’re talking to someone important); a roleaflex wrist watch which keeps accurate time twice a day (if you’re lucky); a couple of dollars to help purchase a special crowbar for robbing vending machines for endless prized but free refreshment; an Amish portable centerpiece permaglow fireplace/heater, which comes with casters so when it stops working (which happens immedately) it can be easily wheeled out to the crub for trash removal, if doesn’t burn down the prized recipients tent, house or shelter first; plus loads of other fun and like valuable prizes.
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:05am
  Keaton still hasn’t defended any claims about his pedophilia. I’d like to hear his defense that those accusations. After all, calling someone a racist is not defensible, and people like him who throw out this claim weaken it with every shot.
  
  We’re in the 12th round of the “racism” boxing match, and you’ve got no steam left. Go troll the local elementary school.
  
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- TEOTWASWKI
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:04am
  I guess I’m raciest too…or maybe I just don’t have my head up my A$$.
  
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udt1719
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:21pm
Typical violent liberal who wanted to impart his moral superiority on the masses.He was going to be the LAPD model for reform and accountability.Didn’t work out! So this liberal lunatic shows his high morality by killing innocent people and terrorizing the innocent.He got what he deserved.Nothing but a filthy coward.Rot where you lay you piece of filth.God be with all the victims of this pos especially our law enforcement brothers who paid the ultimate price.

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AnAmerican111
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:04pm
Next up!
Pathetic appearances by Al “I can’t speak English” Sharpton and Jess/Jessie/Jessica Jackson!…
Cry’s of RACISM against Black Murderers!…………

Sharpton leading a march on the burnt out cabin-holding hands and singing “Kumbaya”.
Many Liberals join in due to not having jobs and getting paid a bottle of wine to show up.

Cartoon Networks(CNN, MSNBC) have full coverage where they also talk about this would have never happen if guns were outlawed!….

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MCLOVINIT
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:03pm
“If I had a son, he’d look like Christopher Dorner.” – Moron In Chief

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- Kisses6350
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 1:37pm
  Yanno, that line is so played out…………………..
  
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Bonnieblue2A
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:58pm
Body believed tobe that of fugitive Dornr found and removed from burnt cabin:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/12/authorities-responding-to-big-bear-home-on-report-of-hostage-situation-unknown-if-connected-to-dorner/

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- Misha
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:04pm
  Now that’s good news.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:45pm
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/12/were_dorners_complaints_legitimate/

I hope the truth comes out. This is either tragic or shakespearean

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:02pm
  Apparently, it wasn’t tear gas. they deliberately set the cabin on fire. from their own mouths over the police scanner.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:42pm
  no loose ends, huh
  
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- Melvin Spittle
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:05am
  Yes he was an evil deranged murderer. The facts have now died with him that would have either been confirmed or disproved. I listened to the S.B police chan that he was in the basement and that they would not attempt to enter until the basement burned completely. They then asked if he basement ceiling was of wood construction.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:57pm
  Soy,
  
  I want to know more about his complaint. But he shoots the family of the man who defended him at the review board? The review board could have made up their mind before they sat down. You would think that he would go after the review board or the people in internal investigation who found no police misconduct. Or he could have gone after the person he turned in. If he had gone after them I could understand. That he went after his defense counsel makes me think he had a screw loose. Plus his Naval record is not that great.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:13pm
  Soy,
  I read the salon piece. 4 witness versus 2.
  
  You would have the training officer, a port of LA officer & 2 hotel employees versus Dorner & a mental disturbed person. Dorner reported the incident 2 weeks after it happened.
  
  - Would the suspect still have bruising? -
  - Would there be small tell tale fractures that would show up on a x-ray?
  
  I see now why Dorner should not be an officer. He should have let the incident go since he had let too much time go by.
  
  He should have waited for personal cams so he has back up for his story in the future.
  
  Killing the daughter of his defense counsel, who had an impossible task, is just BS on Dorner’s part.
  
  Ya 4 versus 2 & one of the 2 is considered crazy. Dorner expected to win that?
  
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DZ-015
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:38pm
The most extreme case of cabin fever imaginable, and justly so.

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:46pm
  “Holy Cow, isn’t it great that we never hear the other side? Only the govt side? Isn’t America just the best? Gun ‘em down! Don’t let them talk. “They are a “cop killer!!!!!!!!!!!!”. Yeah, right.
  
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American Patriot Too
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:35pm
May he burn in Hell for eternity.

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- WARRIORSCROWN
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:12pm
  dude common I hate the guy too but really? all eternity? How about just half of eternity? lol
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:54pm
  but had he killed a few arabs, you would be preaching him into heaven
  
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- TEOTWASWKI
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:11am
  Soy “but had he killed a few arabs, you would be preaching him into heaven”
  ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
  I know I would.
  
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Mil-Dot
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:35pm
Wow! It is amazing how all of the evidence of crimes have lately disappeared. What a joke. There is no law anymore. Every man for himself.

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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:06pm
  You seem to dismiss that Dorner didn’t care about the law or the lives of innocents when he murdered four individuals who had NOTHING to do with his being fired. Dorner chose this path of murder rather than taking the high road, no one else.
  
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Advection
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:34pm
You libs are nuts.

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leftcoastslut
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:30pm
he may have been accused of a crime, but I don’t recallnthere ever being an investigation, or a trial, with a jury of his peers. Therefore he is innocent, until he is proven guilty. But yet we have the entire police force (highway patrol, city police, county sheriff, game wardens and I’m sure individual security departments) with a shoot to kill order looking for this guy. LET HIM SPEAK!…. or do you have something to hide. First they came for whomever, but you weren’t him, so you said nothing…

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:38pm
  I agree. It is sickening. The corruption is incredible. Why do any of us obey the law? It is a joke.
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 11:01pm
  Let’s see. Why didn’t they send you in to talk to him in a rational manner, and get him to come out holding your hand so he could have his day in court. There was no question that it was him who killed 3 innocent people, then made threats against many other innocent people. IIt is obvious that he did not have a rational cell in his body, and he was going to go out in a blaze of glory, and wanted to take out a lot of people with him. Your thought pattern is akin to the naive that believe that we can talk rationally to Islamic radicals and become their friends if they only understood us. There are times that there is no other choice than to act with force. On the surface it appears that the Police today were brave heros that probably saved many innocent lives with their actions. I suspect that there will not be any similarities to Ruby Ridge, or Waco. I pray that it is as it appears, and Dorn just got a quick ticket to Hell where he belongsl.
  
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- Acena
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 12:25am
  He did speak.
  He wrote a manifesto detailing his plans.
  You have no idea what went on at the cabin.For all anyone knows he set the fire or committed suicide.
  
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- GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:09am
  @77 We hope you get tried by the media, one day, as well.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:25am
  Acena-
  Over the police scanner they openly discussed the order to set fire to the cabin.
  
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:21pm
evidence burnt up again just like waco, pyro maniac bastards

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- gauge
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:11pm
  Funny how every time something like this happens, the place goes up in flames huh?
  Guess someone didn’t want him to speak out….. Why do you think they pulled the new feeds and
  told the news helicopters to pull back…… Smells like a cover-up to me…
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:55pm
  no loose ends. the only thing the government is good at is killing people and covering the truth
  
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- Bullitt2008
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:09am
  By your logic Staff Sgt and that of TheLeftCoastSlut, the US military murdered three American citizens without trial in drone strikes. Why did the military kill Anwar al-Aulaqi, his 16 year old son Abdulrahman, and Samir Khan? Must be a cover up.
  
  By your moronic statement I have to assume that you are a Staff Sergeant for some kind of paranoid militia holed up in his doomsday bunker in Montana. David Koresh and Chris Dorner chose to die the way they did. If these two PSYCHOS had something meaningful to say or protest, they could have given up and had massive media attention. In the end, they were both cowards.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:18pm
  BULLITT
  Bulls-eye ,Again
  
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TSP
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:19pm
CNN tagline rolling saying the US Marshals said suspect tried to exit cabin but was pushed back inside.

Can we get some info about this?

I do not support, condone nor agree one bit with Dorner’s alleged actions, however if he was alive and trying to exit then he could have been brought to trial.

Unless Judge Dredd was leading the team.

Are the US Marshal’s distancing themselves from this early? if so why?

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- blackyb
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:35pm
  What an obvious lie. They would not do such a freaking thing.
  
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:16pm
That would be the MOVE House.

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- old blacksmith
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:55pm
  and the Symbionese Liberation Army house – Patty Hearst – LAPD
  
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TEOTWASWKI
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:15pm
I guess they gave him a head start to hell.

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The Big Mick
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:14pm
BELIEVED to be?
Wouldn’t it have been nice to GET A POSITIVE ID before BURNING THE PLACE DOWN!
Shades of the Philadelphia Row House Bomb and WACO.
Nothing in open court, under oath, just crisped bodies and ash.
GREAT police work, LaPed, Feds, everybody.

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:23pm
  That Philly Row House Bombing was the MOVE house. Black Radical group of some oddness.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:24pm
  man waco popped in my head the seconds i saw the smoke rising!
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:39pm
  They love to use those incendiary “AKA” tear gas grenades whenever they want to ensure the perp doesn’t make it.
  
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- TEOTWASWKI
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:20am
  I think when he started dropping deputies they didn’t really care about an ID at that point.
  
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- Kisses6350
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:22am
  LAPD? Now you guys didnt think this would end peacefully? Sorry, not with the LAPD. He was not coming out alive. He killed people, but the sercret about the LAPD that led to his firing died with him. You hvae the LAPD version, Mr. Donners’ bersion and the truth! We will never truly know!
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:11pm
Cops: What are your demands?

Dorner: I want a light.

Cops: Okay…..Whoooomppppffffff.

Dorner: No, A Bud Light.

Exit Erkel with a flame thrower..”Did I do that?”

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TheBurningTruth
Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:10pm
This is what we get from raising generations of people that are told that nothing is ever their fault and if something bad happens, that someone else caused it. For all that “conflict resolution” it’s people that were taught to be militant that ARE militant and kill people. Notice how the news media hides from the fact that he’s black and has made numerous racial statements.

Get ready for more!

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:23pm
  No one is hiding that! first off his picture is everywhere! and secondly I was switching between MSNBC and CNN watching this coverage and they both talked in detail about how he believed the LAPD was racist and that is a big part of his motive against the police…
  
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- blackyb
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:40pm
  I only wish someone with money would start buying back and controlling the media who were real journalists, editors and publishers who were objective and were not such liars. I am so sick of liars that I want to be away from all the media. They are ruining any credibility of news, communications, enlightment and help they could give people. How can anyone trust them? What a self-serving bunch of liars they have proved to be.
  
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- blackyb
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:51pm
  They are no more racist than Obama. So, if everyone wants to chose sides and play bad because of someone’s skin color, then that is a ‘forever’ and ongoing and senseless thing. Real Christians do not seem to have a problem for they of like mind and spirit, no matter the color and they respect one another. We do have different ways of life in some areas and that works here where I live and most of us do not mix, but we help one another in times of hardship we best we can. It is nothing but stupidity to play like people have the same likes and dislikes on everything because our families have different cultures to some extent. There is something useful to learn from everyone, but that does not mean we have to all hang together or be made to look bad if we perfer people we can relate to in our own races more and hang with them more. It is stupid to expect it. Most people get along according to how they are treated. Everyone is not going to be ‘best friends’ with everyone, even in their own races. Get real. Personally, I am sorry the guy flipped out, but things happend. We are all sorry for the victims, but this is not something withing our, or apparently his, or especially the victims’ control. For the most part, it is NONE of our business. The man did what he did, and the cops did what they had to do. People should let it to freak go. It is sad and tragic, but not the big racial deal people are making it.. Those who could have be fair and truthful failed. This will mark th
  
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