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CNN Panel Clashes After Contributor Suggests Alleged LAPD Cop Killer Can Teach Us a Lot About ‘Institutionalized Racism’

Feb. 13, 2013 3:00pm Becket Adams

A CNN contributor on Wednesday said that the story of suspected cop killer Christopher Dorner can tell us a lot about corruption, “institutionalized racism,” and give us a framework to examine how “America operates in general.”

Politic365′s Jason Johnson Says Dorners Story Tells us a Lot About Corruption, Institutionalized Racism

Dorner allegedly shot and murdered Keith Lawrence and his fiancée, Monica Quan, on Feb. 3. Four days later, he allegedly shot and killed Police Officer Michael Crain, a decorated U.S. Marine and a father of two children. (Facebook/Reuters).

“He says a lot about more than just guns,” said Politic365′s Jason Johnson. “He tells us a lot about how our urban police departments are working, he tells us a lot about corruption. He tells us a lot about institutionalized racism. His story is the kind of testimony that we need to take a look at how America operates in general.”

CNN’s Carol Costello jumped in to point out that being “evil and vile” — as Dorner has been accused of being — makes it awfully difficult for anyone to take his supposed “message” seriously.

The New York Times’ Ross Douthat chimed in to point out that “crazy people” are capable of making good points “in the course of coming to evil conclusions,” but also noted there’s a double-standard clearly on display in the Dorner case.

“Now you have a psychotic killer who has published a manifesto that expresses basically left-wing ideas and the takeaway is supposed to be that we should enact left-wing policy proposals?” he asked, noting that this was definitely not how people reacted after Jared Loughner shot and killed six people in Tucson, Arizona.

“It seems like there’s a slight double standard in how the media reacts to these kind of rampages, don’t you think?” he pressed.

The panel then turned to CNN contributor Van Jones who was not at all pleased with the discussion.

“There are many better spokespersons for the cause of racial justice than this murderer,” Jones said, adding that we’re going “down a very dangerous road.”

We should be talking about the victims, he said, and “the legitimate people who have been trying to make positive change in peaceful, lawful ways.”

San Bernardino County Sheriff’s officers Ken Owens, center, and Bernabe Ortiz search a home for former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner in Big Bear Lake, Calif, Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013. (AP Photo).

Johnson jumped back in to defend his earlier point.

Dorner isn’t “the Rosa Parks of gun violence,” he said. But “his story is telling and the kind of thing we can learn from — it doesn’t have to be an either/or.”

Jones countered by saying that it’s fine to view Dorner’s case as one of a mental health issue, but “I don’t want to validate his political thinking while people are literally planning funerals.”

Douthat sided with Jones, leaving Johnson all alone in his argument.

“In these kind of moments,” Douthat said, “you know, you want to focus on the victims, you want to condemn the crime, and you want to save the political points the person may have been inspired by for a more appropriate time.”

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ginger100
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:03pm
I wonder how many LA cops voted democrat?

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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:44pm
  I would venture to guess 99% !
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:44pm
  I wonder how many LA Jack Booted Thugs are allowed to vote.
  
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- mlite9
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:12pm
  One might also wonder if it happened that any of the Sandy Hook victims had been black, if this CNN ‘panel’ would also be so introspective about gun violence against blacks? It is truly amazing how personal innocence and the capability to recognize fault can co-exist on such a grand, public and blatantly liberal scale. Tune in at 9 for another game of Find the Racism.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:31pm
  don’t most cops for their benefits and for making their job easier.
  
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- Mr.Nick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:39pm
  Well you can bet Dorner did. However, he is/was a very interesting interesting person. On one hand he claims/implies his actions were provoked by the LAPD for civil liberty violations and other constitutional reasons while referring to others as “tyrants” then he goes on to praise Obama and numerous progressives (and republicans)…. At one point in his manifesto he claimed he supported the federal government “100%.”
  
  Not exactly a balanced manifesto, although I do agree with his position on the LAPD and cops in general.
  
  Unlike most posters here I have had the opportunity to get kicked in the head by a cop for no reason.
  
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- Nlitend1
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 11:01pm
  @mr.hoffman
  you look like an old man, what’s your excuse for being so ignorant about democracy?
  Mlite, I know your sentence made sense in your head, but in writing it is incoherent.
  Ginger, auser, etc: Police generally vote republican (a lot of ex-military), but not by a huge margin. It is probably teachers you are thinking about who vote for democrats…and obviously they are a bunch of jackboot thugs that shouldn’t be allowed a voice in our country.
  
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- Bullitt2008
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:12pm
  You anti-police posters are uninformed idiots and must be commie Huffington Post visitors coming here to spew your uneducated suppositions. Many police officers are former military so you must also be grouping our US servicemen/women into the category of thugs also. Unless you have first-hand knowledge, you are just as bad as the socialist democrats that lump all conservatives into the category of racists pigs.
  
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Rowgue
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:00pm
When van jones is the voice of reason in a discussion that’s a pretty sad statement about the rest of the panel.

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:21pm
  Oh yes. The Van Jones Doctrine: “Give THEM the WEALTH” is indistinguishable from “Eff Whitey
  
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- lwoot
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:54pm
  Wow… they are telling you, Jason Johnson, to shut up because your hurting the cause. They want victims to hold up and push their agenda with, not the perps. Your taking away their ability to later claim that poor Dorner is a victim too. Kind of like the other cop killer Van Jones thinks should be set free and was wrongly imprisoned. Where Dorner screwed up is by killing someone other than cops. There is no defense as of yet for that.
  
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- DonaldH
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:51pm
  Voice of reason? Van Jones? I thought his “reasoning” was built around “let’s leave this guys politics out of it” Guess he fooled all of you good…
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Looks like Jones has higher aspirations, e.g. Political office plans in his future. He obviously has been practicing how to look like a reasonable, introspective, caring person. Watching him play this role is creepy.
  
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- Cosmos102
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:37am
  My sense was that Van Jones was lying to save his Communist reputation among low information voters watching CNN. Don’t want to come on too strong…
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:59pm
I wonder how racist the LAPD was when they hired the psychopathic lunatic? Pretty much every time an affirmative action hire gets fired the first thing they cry is racism. When your union can’t get your job back you must of done something pretty bad because he had the power of the federal government backing him simply because he was black and they couldn’t get him reinstated. He was a POS lunatic and I hope he had an agonizing death.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:40pm
  Hey Progressiveslayer – have you seen Dorner’s “manifesto”? He was clearly of sound mind. While he is still a cop-killer who took his job too seriously – he was most likely motivated by bad experiences with the corrupt LAPD. This does not excuse his actions, but it does shine light on evil system, know what i mean?
  
  http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php
  ___________________
  “I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.”
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:02pm
  Soy,
  “Three witnesses – two hotel employees and a port police officer – testified that they did not see the kicks and Gettler’s account of events, which included being kicked, were ruled to lack credibility”
  
  http://www.salon.com/2013/02/12/were_dorners_complaints_legitimate/
  
  Given that the training officer is not going to incriminate herself. This 4 to 2 or 3 to 2 against Dorner.
  Note that Gettler is mentally ill & often says yes to anything according to his father.
  
  Dorner lost, right or wrong. I think it was wrong. But the stupid SOB shoots his defense counsel’s daughter? That is beyond the pale. If it were the training officer or the Review board, that would be one thing. He shot a total innocent. Also you cannot right every wrong. Just because he did not win does not mean that he could not win in the future. Speaking of the future police & people being taken into custody will have much better protection from bad conduct or false accusations with the use of police cams & civilians filming police in public.
  
  What Dorner did was very wrong. He just poured gasoline onto any race problems we have.
  
  You pick & choose your battles to win the war. Dorner picked the 1st battle offered & got routed. Big surprise.
  
  Austin, Texas police department is testing out ‘personal police camera
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfEO5mrQRTg
  
  Police Head Cameras Capture Action, Evidence
  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-6363152.html
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:24pm
  Hey walkabout
  
  i am not here to argue whether Dorner is an animal or not. That article says Getler has mental illness, not Dorner. I watched those police camera links but it doesnt appear they have anything to do with this story
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:49pm
  I got that Gettler was bona fide mentally ill. I did not say Dorner was insane.
  
  You were the one that said Dorner was of sound mind. The more I think about it, the more I think he was insane. Like Mike Savage said “Liberalism is a mental disorder”. So Dorner was a little bit loopy, but stewing about his treatment right or wrong (I am of the opinion that it was wrong & have said so before), still does not give you the right to shoot or otherwise harm innocent people. I have seen plenty of people less qualified get jobs that I should have had. And I was angry. but what I didn’t do is start whacking people. Yes, Dorner became crazy. He could not even plan a getaway.
  
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Justan Noyence
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:58pm
Wasn’t Van Jones, one of the douche bags on the “Free Mumia Abu-Jamal” band wagon ?

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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:57pm
I disagree.

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rocco99
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:50pm
I was listening to a local talk show this morning and they were discussing the beating that 4 players from the Alabama championship football team gave to a lone victim. They beat him unconscious and robbed him of his valuables then one went on to rob another victim later that night. After the news caster reported the story she then turned to the panel and the very first thing that one man said was “they should be paying these athletes”. Yes the station was a colored, black, African American or whatever you PC police what to call it today and yes the players were all black.

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- Thomas
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:04pm
  Every indoctrination first begins with a devil and just so happens that the progressives have made white men their target. The progressives have then placed them self as the hero for “special interest”. Revenge is the motive of all these voters. Its said that these people have allowed them self to be duped in this way and used to rob us all of our freedom. Until the special interest finally take responsibility for their own lives they will continue to be the fool.
  
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mtsnj
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:49pm
Shove institutionalized racism us your ass…this is what you get when “everyone has to win” mentality. you dumb down these tests too far to let these unstable people in, for the sake of a quota.

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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:55pm
  In short we need to eliminate PC, and the ones that condone it …… well they can bite me.
  
  OH wait I almost forgot to say I hope I didn’t offend anyone……….NOT
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:17pm
  Affirmative action and real racism “white racism” is completely out of control. There will be a backlash if the PC crap is not stopped. Stupid is stupid and trash is trash, and van jones isa puke communist just like his **** buddy 0bama.
  
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- MDECKER
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:45pm
  Almost every other minority group out there, aside from the blacks, go about their business and improve their lot in life by hard work and perserverance. This “racist” garbage has gotten old. It’s because of the president and liberals like him, that Blacks will be left behind. Racism exists only because liberals benefit from perpetuating it.
  
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FloraBelleza
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:45pm
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- Thomas
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:58pm
  He is a racist. Most racist try to justify their hateful actions with other people. Just like most cheaters accuse their mates as being cheaters. Most liars think everyone else are liars. We should see that many black people have deep seeded hate for white people. They blame others for their problems that they them self create and even keep voting for. This guy proved through his actions that he should have never been a police officer in the first place. Who knows what other things he has done to others when he was a cop when he is walking around with the mind set like that. He is the product of a government that has created propaganda for 50 years. I have seen this kind of justification time and again when I was in school.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:42pm
  He was likely not racist, as he praises many white people such as Chris Christie
  
  http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php
  
  “I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.”
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:33pm
  there is allot of racism that exists in the military and in the poice force now nobody knows its it most or whatever, but it exists to an extent to where it can threaten anyone who walks the street and a police officer is your greatest and most likely danger in this country whether your a good or bad guy.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:31pm
  AUSERNAME….would you try that again in English please? Thanks champ.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:44pm
“He tells us a lot about institutionalized racism.” He sure as hell does, he shows that people like you will excuse any behavior if you find the perpetrator’s skin color to your liking. These people make me ill.

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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:52pm
  Ditto
  
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tonypro
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:44pm
As I stated in a previous article about dorner, the left wing idiots would turn this into a gun control focus.

Don’t hate to say it. I told you so. LMAO

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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:51pm
  Sorry, I should have included that I’m sure most of the people here seen it coming as well.
  
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RaydocX
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:41pm
so the contributor chooses to ignore that some of those killed were ‘of color’… that there was not a racial or sex component to the firing, merely the issue of credibility.
That’s the race batier and closet racist’s attitude toward anything where race might be injected into the conversation: use the tragedy (whatever it is) as a springboard to claim that racism remains a problem.

Frankly, that attitude in the MSM and in politicians perpetuates racial problems, because it gives the sheeple tacit approval to claim it’s racism when anything bad happens to them, rather than their behavior or the behavior of those around them.

Beauchamp or such is coming out with a series on ID telveision that purports to show how black people have been mistreated by police and citizens due to racism, and claims the idea was born when Trayvon was killed… so clearly this journalist never bothered to listen to all the facts, instead relying on the hate and race baiting of some ‘leaders’ of the black community.

To be sure, racism still exists… Sadly, it exists on both sides of the color barrier, and many of those claiming to be fighting racism, are now perpetuating it, for without it, what else would they do?

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THE EQUALIZER
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:37pm
Another affirmative action hire acting his color. Kill Magilla Gorilla!

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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:49pm
  I kind of think that based not so much on his race, but due to the fact that he was a football player.
  I wan to to know what his college major was. I also noted that all his medals in the Navy were warm body awards. I would have expected one achievement or commendation medal.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:44pm
  Warm Body Awards:
  National Defense Service Medal
  Iraq Campaign Medal
  Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
  Sea Service Deployment Medal
  Navy Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon
  Armed Forces Reserve Medal w/ “M” Device
  
  Personal Awards but not Leadership or Management
  Rifle Marksman Ribbon
  Pistol Expert Medal
  
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common cents
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:37pm
If Obama was killed, half of the nation would rejoice, why? because of his corruption and contempt for the citizens and the constitution.
This is the very same reason some people actually enjoyed what this man was doing, most people who have lived in California live in fear of the police, and their undeniable oppression and crimes against the very people who they serve has caused an understandable hatred towards them.
These facts may offend you but, sometimes the truth is offensive.

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shorelineliz
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:34pm
Ugh. Once again take out the “race card” by inserting “institutionalized racism” when what is really going on is mental illness and a kind of homicidal hatred fueled by all of the above. This dude was straight up straight jacket crazy in his head and didn’t he post a gazillion word “manifesto” on FAcebook hailing HOllywood Celebrities and Christ Matthews and Liberal Journalists and SoleDad OBrien and CNN as his “inspirations?” I think he did. So he was “inspired” to kill people by Liberal Journalism and Hollywood Celebrity? I rest my case.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:37pm
  Institutionalized racism is Affirmative Action. It is practiced by most U.S. institutions.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:07pm
  For once Jerk I fully agree. When I think of Affirmative Action I imagine teachers and employers saying, “Oh you’re black? You come from a poor family? That means you can never do as good as white kids. But don’t worry, we’ll lower the bar for you because you can’t succeed any other way.” How positively insulting. If you benefit from the program it means you’re being treated like you’re inferior and need help and if you don’t receive benefits you’re being intentionally denied positions based on race. If that’s not the most racist thing ever then what is?
  
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- readyontheright
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 9:57pm
  Everyone needs to check out Ben Shapiro’s speech at the Heritage Foundation, deals with much of what the present day libs are doing and how to confront it. Very intersesting and EXTREMELY informative. I am not computer literate but I’m sure you can find it on YOUTUBE….trust me its worth it.
  
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walnutportconservative
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:32pm
Van Jones?
Who would be surprised?

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elosogrande
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:26pm
Is it possible that Jason might just be a sorry-ass racist himself, looking for a pot to stir? He doesn’t seem to acknowlege the possiblity that the nut job Dorner may just be the bad guy, who invented an excuse to ruinand/or end the lives of some people who he didn’t like. Maybe Jason was bewitched by Dorner’s smile.

It’s tme for Jason to cut the crap and stop stirring the damned pot.

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FloraBelleza
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:22pm
Looked at how the stupid journalist react and smiling said let’s go Van Jones, in others words, please save.

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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:22pm
What did we learn?

The guy was a psychopath who held a grudge for 4 years over being fired.

He felt that the way to solve his psychosis was killing not only those he blamed, but also innocent people who, by accidental birth alone, were related to those he blamed.

That the LAPD is as mad dog as he was, didn’t bother to care about who or what they shot, and likely executed him.

That nobody in uniform in the state of California should ever, ever be trusted to own or use a firearm.

That’s what I learned.

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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:36pm
  He made the LAPD look like bumbling idiots. They’re going as far as “re-examining” Dorner’s case in the force in what’s clearly a clumsy and transparent PR move.
  
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- tyuchic
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:11pm
  goj–i agree with everything you said but the first sentence. let’s not forget that it WAS 4 years ago and during that time he was going through legal remedies and the appellate process to right what he felt was a wrong. i see no evidence of psychopathy in his behavior UNTIL the time he had exhausted every legal recourse he could avail, and at that point this prideful (his greatest weakness, IMO) man cracked, and decided a society (and indeed the very supposed PROTECTOR of this society) in which he had tried to adhere to everything expected of him, had let him down for the last time, and he no longer could participate in it, and felt compelled to rebel against it. the whole thing is just sad, all around. my free 5 cent analysis (addendum).
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:24pm
  I will not gainsay you Ghost.
  I took many of those same lessons.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:45pm
  he exhausted every available option to clear his name. Seems like he was punished for reporting improper behavior of another cop. Still doesnt excuse Dorner’s actions – but lets not characterize him as something that he is clearly not
  
  http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php
  
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stopprintn
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:19pm
Good ridance #Dorner. Spawn of the libral media is now a crispy critter.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:26pm
  Racism is a shield to criticism. It is used just like homophobia, sexism, xenophobia, and antisemitism.
  
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- rosegrower
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:42pm
  The_Jerk
  So, Mahmood Ahmadinijad is ……. what, exactly? Or are you of the same ilk and believe that Jews are direct descendants of apes and pigs? If we can’t call you an anti-semite, I guess we’ll just call you a worthless loser who is unfortunately proud of being a worthless loser.
  
  As far as Dorner is concerned, anyone who tries to see some “truth” in his actions is just as delusional as he was, and probably just as dangerous. I sure wouldn’t want to be alone in an elevator with the joker who thinks that Dorner is some kind of anti-hero on a mission to right past injustices. I would also like to know why he was fired from the LAPD – could it be that he didn’t pass his psych exam?????? Or that he was excessively violent with white, Asian and Hispanic perps?
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:29pm
  Rose
  I read Jrk as saying Dorner’s behavior is being IMPROPERLY and illegitimately mitigated by cries of “institutional racism”. I would say you are both on a similar Point of View here, not opposite.
  But I could be misreading you both.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:19pm
Chris Dorner…. The left’s hero, killed by the left’s God: The State. Loughner also was a leftist, so was Holmes, and the capital hill shooter. I suspect that we will find soon that Lanza was a fan of leftist ideologies. Nadal was a leftist poster child. A radical Muslim that hated US Soldiers. There must be something in a Statist mentality that turns these people into murdering psychopaths. It would explain the tens of millions murdered by their philosophies in the 20th century.

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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:33pm
  Left wing liberalism is a mental disorder. That is why all these violent misfits have been lefties. This regime is using them and inciting them to create civil unrest. The community agitator will use every means possible to rile people up.
  
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Iam4America
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:16pm
They don’t want to talk about the political affiliations when the culprit is leaning towards them. Then they don’t want a rush to judgement.

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- IronSights
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:27pm
  It would be interesting to see what their response would be if everything played out the same with the following exception: He was a conservative. Same race, a manifesto but pro gun & anti O etc., everything played out the same, what would they have said? I’m sure there would have been no positive point to be gained if Dorner had been a conservative or libertarian
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:33pm
  The only institutional racism is these leftist dou*hes looking at this murder SOB differently then any other murdering SOB because of his skin. There’s your racism . They left have been using this tired a55 crap forever. If I was sitting in that discussion I would have wiped the wall with their BS victimazation reverse racist crap.And remind them that this murdering liberal serial killer killed five peopleblack white and hispanic.
  
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whatthecrazy
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:14pm
The left does not know right from wrong so how can they discuss anything of importance?

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- FloraBelleza
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:37pm
  I’m sorry, but I disagree with you, they know exactly what they doing and they do know the difference between right and wrong, please stop making excuses for them, enough is enough. The MSM is corrupt and have been lie to all the American people, is like Dr, Carson said, they keeping repeating the lies to brain wash those that have no other way to know the true. Most of these people are zombies, they don’t know how to thing for themselves, and that is sad, very sad for America. Please get the book AMERICA, the Beautiful, by Dr. Benjamin Carson.
  
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AvengerK
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:14pm
Its’ fun watching Van Jones disassociate himself from Dorner because the publicity would be too difficult for him to manage. Notice the spin?
“There are many better spokespersons for the cause of racial justice than this murderer,” – “the legitimate people who have been trying to make positive change in peaceful, lawful ways.”. In other words. “I can’t sell this guy he’s poltiically too hot to handle and I’m trying to appear “legit” these days”.

Clearly Van Jones would have a difficult time selling Dorner as a fellow lefty “martyr” so he cut him loose for more palatable candidates in the future.

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ginger100
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:10pm
I’m uncomfortable with crazy people in powerful positions with any kind of weapon at their disposal.

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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:05pm
Yes, the wise sensei Chris Dornan taught us well, if you love something, Kill it, if someone takes something away from you that you love, kill them. If you have personal problems, kill someone. If you want to bring up racial issues, kill Whitey.

All of his answers came from a gun and rage.

But it seems all of CNN’s answers come from their anus, and yesterday’s dinner.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:57pm
  yes, Dorner again shows us that….. if you live by the gun – you will die by the gun
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:31pm
  Only if you let a gun govern your actions. You can have a gun, protect yourself, and not become a vicious murderer. But when you use a gun to intimidate and solve your conflicts, you have clearly lost.
  
  I for one believe using a gun should be your absolute last resort. I carry one, but I hope I never, ever have to use one.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:41pm
  yup
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:57pm
  Alright Soy, we found a point we can agree on. High five dude.
  
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