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‘Why Accept That It Is The Government’s Job to Do Anything?’ (Plus Other Responses to Obama’s Speech Made By TheBlaze Audience)

Feb. 13, 2013 2:29pm Mark Chalifoux

Coverage of President Barack Obama’s state of the union speech Tuesday sparked a lively debate among readers of TheBlaze, especially those who checked out our side-by-side comparison of key points made by Obama, Sen. Marco Rubio and Sen. Rand Paul.

To keep the discussion going, we’ve collected some of the comments you made and are giving you your say in this article (please note that we did not edit the comments).

Here you go:

Toledofan:

There are many different ways to solve today’s problems and, honestly, although somewhat painful today, if left unattended they will be more painful as time goes on. So, the main idea from the Democrats is just to keep kicking the can down the road, spend some more, worry about it later. The other side is to start to address the problems today, implement the solutions and move ahead to kick-start the economy and get out of the way. The burden becomes the citizens who can’t, won’t, or just don’t want to do anything because they feel they are owed. As long as the Democrats are in charge and Obama is President, nothing will change.

AmericaMustBeFree:

This is a remark Obama made from Bush’s last State of the Union address… “Imagine if next year, the entire nation had a president they could believe in. A president who rallied all Americans around a common purpose. That’s the kind of president we need in this country.” Yes, Mr. Obama. just imagine if you took your own words and did exactly what you said.. Instead, you have divided a nation…

Digital Dreamer:

Rubio is the only one that any of us should be backing.

Rand is a waste of time. Not because he doesn’t make sense on certain points but because he’s perceived as an extremist .His father is a consumate liability. He’s too connected to the much maligned Tea Party, whereas Rubio only has mild ties to the organization. Rubio is young, hispanic, yet caucasian and accessible to the conservative base. He’s articulate, smart, charismatic and is the perfect foil to the desperate ethnicity/racial grab the democrats employed with Obama. Hes’ the smart choice.

Those that delusionally cry out that Rubio is a “rhino” or a liberal-in-conservative’s clothing and demand that Rand should be the conservative party representative are unreasonable and foolish. He has zero chance of capturing the liberal demographics, and Rand has almost no traction in minority groups. Rubio *is* a cuban-american, and, as such, has the marketability to survive both the left’s smearing of him on the news, as well as gaining a sizeable hispanic support based on his ethnicity alone.

However his viability as a candidate will ONLY happen if conservatives stop bickering, and work together to protect his future candidacy (vehemently and diligently if necessary). If conservatives like many posters on this forum continue to split the conservative base by chasing “empty” or weak candidates that have no chance of winning an election, then you’ll only succeed engendering more liberal victories.

Libertarian:

There is a huge philosophical difference between Rubio and Paul. One is an avid constitutionalist, the other toes the line of Republican establishment with a touch of conservatism. One obeys the constitution as it was meant to be the other will toe the line of the Republican Party DESPITE what the constitution says.

As the years go by toward 2016 you will see Rubio turn into an Eric Cantor or John Boehner because the establishment has picked their man for 2016. Much like unionism, the Republican Party picks by seniority not by record or philosophy.

Watch Karl Rove and the ilk under the (R) tag, which has been equally culpable in destroying our constitution back Rubio or blue dog Democrat John Huntsman Jr in 2016.

GAC1218:

Why accept that it is the government’s job to do anything?
Reagan had it right, “government is not the solution but the problem”.

Free market doesn’t work with government intervention.

- The cost of a college education has been driven through the roof because of pell grants and interest free government loans. Injecting false money into the system.
-Energy should not be regulated by a government that refuses to give permits to companies. Supply and demand should dictate how much oil and natural gas is produced.
(government debt makes your gasoline 3.50/gallon instead of $2.10)
- Why does the gov. spend money on medical research and scientific research? That should be private money.
- $9/ hr min. wage is a cover for a 24% increase in income tax collected.
- The housing bubble and subsequent collapse was caused by government policy.
- High corporate tax drives business out of this country.
- No cross state line competition of insurance companies drives up our costs.
- Innovation should be driven by independent money. Gov. has no business using your money to incentivize or reward innovation. (It’s all just a congressional slush pool anyway)

When you socialize a free market you destroy the free market, and when the money runs out you also destroy the social republic. It’s lose, lose.

The government has stepped to far accross the line. It’s time for the people to stand up and demand they remove themselves from our private lives.

Samurai2112:

On minimum wage…If $9 is good why not round it up to $10, why not $20 per hour and let them not only live above poverty but be middle class? Why not a minimum of $100 per hour and we can all be upper middle class? This is the fallacy of the minimum wage argument. Also don’t forget a lot of union contracts are tied to the minimum wage and they would all get an automatic wage increase.

Wal-Mart in ND is paying $17 for entry workers and still can not find people to fill. Same problem with service industry like restaurants etc they just get someone hired and trained only to loose to someone else paying more. The even larger problem is not enough housing for new workers coming into the area. The ECONOMY in that state is BOOMING, that is what drives higher wages not some set number from the Gov. He who shall not be named could learn something on how the economy really works and apply it to the whole country. Unfortunately it goes against everything he believes.

Edotdot:

Whatever happens in the next two election cycles, if we are able to take back the senate and then the Whitehouse, it will be under the Republican banner… if we don’t quit nitpicking we will stay right where we are now, feckless to pull back any of Obama’s and his merry band of progressives crap. It just might be that we can’t right our nation on the first or second attempt but we can pull her back from the brink. Please quit name-calling, grow up, and get a dose of reality!

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Comments (39)

MelodyM
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:19am
turn into a bad one real fast
I keep on analyzing things I have just read and one thing seems can’t leave me alone. Maybe it is extremely convenient for some group of people to leave everything the way it is right now, to leave people with unsolved problems? Looks like I might not be mistaken and this is the saddest thing ever. It is like you know there are so many people angry with too high rates for payday loans ( https://paydayloansat.com/ ) and government seems to understand the issue, but at the end of the day they do nothing simply because they do not want to lose the profit. I guess same thing happens to every aspect of problems we have

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backtoconservatism
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:36pm
Minimum government equals maximum private growth.

Simplify and reform the tax code for maximum growth for all. Tax first 25K at 100%. Those are the people who use gov’t, let them pay for it. Tax 25K to 250K at 50%. Income over 250K, no tax. All those lazy people who get to a point in careers where they think it’s good enough to slack off because they’re earning six figures, because there’s no motivation to work hard for family and country…all of a sudden they’ll have motivation to work harder. Personal success is public patriotism.

On the low end, labor costs to high. I own my own chain of businesses, and I can tell you this is too true. Eliminate the minimum wage and will drive down costs across the board. It’s not just minimum wage workers who earn too much for what they contribute. Eliminate the min wage, and not only will 7.75 workers go down to 2 or 3 to bring costs in line with the international market…but 20/hour workers will drop to 10, etc. lower costs for everyone.

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lucentlives
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:37am
Big government is taking over our children. I wrote an article on early education regarding their takeover. go to http://www.lucentlives.com and click on the early education link.

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sasquatch08
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 10:46pm
I only have one major issue with any of what was said and it’s with GAC1218.

“Why does the gov. spend money on medical research and scientific research? That should be private money.”

GAC1218, you are wrong on this one. I don’t pretend to know the depth of your knowledge on the subject, however I must disagree with the above statement on its face.

Government support of research leads to all sorts of useful things that would not otherwise be pursued by private investment and I will attempt to explain why.

This is one case where the private market does poorly, they generally will not invest large amounts of money unless they consider the chances of turning a profit on that very expensive research to be pretty darn good. Consider some of what we’ve gotten out of the space program. Nobody saw a market for something like Velcro until it had already been in use by NASA. No one saw a use for DuPonts Nylon, or artificial rubber until they had been invented and put into widespread government use (WWII).

Chemists sometimes work an entire career for a drug company and NEVER create a chemical that turns into a viable drug, or even produces research into a viable drug down the line.

What government should NOT do is subsidize the sale/use of these inventions (solar energy or wind). Once it’s been invented it either survives the market via its own value, or it dies. Companies that receive this money should have to pay it back.

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The Big Mick
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:34pm
I agree with GAC1218. The ONLY raison d’etre FOR ANY Government (and this from Jefferson in the Declaration, the whole argument FOR an AMERICAN Government) is to SECURE God Endowed Unalienable Individual Rights.
NO other JOB!
I call this the “‘Gunsmoke’ Principle of Radical Jeffersonian Extremely Limited Government.”
Like Marshal Matt Dillon on “Gunsmoke” Government, especially The FEDERAL Government exists SOLELY to HANG HORSE THIEVES! Either Domestic ones like Barney Madoff, or Foreign ones like Bin Ladin. THAT’s IT. A budget for Bullets, Horseshoes and a Rope is ALL they need.

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Whatmeworry-never
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 7:33pm
Government needs to be the absolute LAST option for help not the first, that is why we are upside down and going bankrupt. Arm up because the food stamp slaves are going to riot when there is no more money and they are cut off, they are going to go into DT’s like a junkie. Where is their fix going to come from? Your house, family, neighborhood, only you and your family, maybe your neighbors will be all that stands between them and your food and or lives.

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Bohump
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:23pm
I have Heard this all before, …. 3 or 5 times !
BUT what Happen’s ? … NOT A THING !

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- NewMedia
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:43pm
  @Bohump – How right you are. But of course it’s not the government’s job to do anything. After all, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have both said within the past week that we don’t even have a spending problem. They said we have a “priority” problem. These are crazy times my friends. Check this out for a good laugh on the whole thing.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWXvinHwwoo
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:37pm
  d’accord Bohump. But from MY perspective, that has been suggesting the ONLY solution is American Revolution v3.0, for YEARS now, just the fact more folks like YOU are SEEING the “nothing changes and hasn’t for 100 years” is encouraging.
  Now, find us the 21st Century John Adams channeling Che!
  
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:18pm
I disagree with many commenters, however stay silent most of the time (I don’t look for stuff), I realize there is nothing that I can do to prevent really off beat, silly comments, from either being misunderstood (myself included) or as part of intentional barrage of attack to censor social media (oh you want to participate in the conversation? Imagine Lucifer from Pink Bandits in transgendered sandals just “friended” you, and all his imaginary friends from around the world created with a python script (computer language)) on his laptop?

Par for the course, I believe those worth hearing, get repeated, or they effect people who are listened to. There is a reason why we all don’t make $100 an hour? Some employer along the way, screwed it up for the rest of us? Somebody got greedy and said, eh, I know someone who will do that for next to nothing, let me bid on the job? That’s an ethical problem, or a lack of creativity in the sales department, because we all know the higher end of the economy is based on sales, not costs of living? You can put your head in the sand all you want with that philosphical chew toy, and at the end of the day you will be discussing currency wars?

Government is required to do the things we paid them to do, or give us our money back? Liberal and Conservative media do not want you reading blogs, and they will tell you so, that’s why I thank Glenn for every day he has his up there?

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- JRook
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 5:35pm
  Government at every level is a better approach for providing any number of social goods from defense, law enforcement, fire fighting to education and healthcare. As there can be no exception that given similar levels of effectiveness and efficiency, creation of profit will reduce the amount or quality of the services provided. If you want to really consider why our healthcare costs twice per capita than the rest of the world you need only look at the failure of an economic model that has non-profit hospitals surrounded by for profit insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, medical equipment companies, etc. And really take the time to research how significantly lower the administrative cost of Medicare and Medicaid are when compared to for profit health insurance, let along the fact that neither must provide a ROI to investors. The proof was made very clear when the for profit insurance companies required significantly more per Medicare recipient within their pilot managed care programs. The for profit health care insurance companies would charge significantly more to take on the risk pool and claims experience for the Medicare population.
  
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- JUSTANOTHEROPINION
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 6:44pm
  @JROOK, your still an idiot
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:44pm
  I think Government is required to do the things we set it up to do, OR GIVE US THEIR LIVES BACK!
  READ the DECLARATION.
  When the Ruling Class Aristos inside the Beltloop “become destructive to these ends”–of SECURING God Endowed, Unalienable Individual Liberty–”it is our RIGHT, it is our DUTY” to THROW OFF SUCH Government! “To ALTER or ABOLISH IT”!
  MY solutions START with a Gigantic “Red Dawn” “Hun Circle” just outside the Beltloop that slays Every Living Creature inside with Fire and Sword. Except for the Ruling Class Aristos–THEY get “sequestered” for The Guillotine!
  Folks, you have GOT to read H.Beam Piper’s “A Planet for Texans” aka “Lone Star Planet” over on “Project Guttenberg”.
  
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Salamander
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:49pm
All you ‘poor’ people out there that think your Obamaphone and EBT cards are going to make you rich or solve all your problems, are delusional! You are in for such a RUDE AWAKENING! It doesn’t matter how much money you have! Money does NOT define or separate the rich from the poor! The difference is one of self-perception! The rich are those who run their lives within whatever resources they are able to muster so that THEY HAVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE! The poor are those who DO NOT run their lives, but DEPEND on the largesse of others to provide them with the bare necessities so they will shut up and go away! DON’T BE STUPID, BE RICH!

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Salamander
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:42pm
Just remember, folks: Too big to FAIL is too big to MANAGE!

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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:30pm
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Obama Loves America people, he just wants the Very Best for us…..

I hope the people who believe that get Fire Hose Diarrhea that just won’t stop….

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- gyro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:39pm
  replace Diarrhea with enema
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:39pm
  LOL a couple of tablespoons of epson salt would help flush em right out.
  
  Tooo funny
  
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Robert999
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:29pm
The problem of too much government stems directly from the US constitution. The constitution was drafted because the Articles of Confederation were seen as creating a too weak central government. As presidents like Jackson, Polk, Lincoln, both Roosevelts and others tried to get more power for themselves, they found justification for it in the constitution.

The answer is to repeal the current constitution and return to America’s original form of independent government, the Articles of Confederation. That will give us a weak central government with a lot more power and freedom for the states and the individual.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:39pm
  good luck with that. i dont know how you disband a standing army, all the air force / navy, and nuclear weapons we have
  
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- Derek01
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:13pm
  Politicians are taking advantage of us. The Constitution lists a those things government should do. We need strong laws encouraging the tarring and feathering of any political panderer. They should also lose their voting rights forever.
  
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OniKaze
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:10pm
Obama has proven time and time again one major point… He either doesn’t understand anything from an executive level… OR He does understand and all of what he is doing is by design…

Either way, it should disqualify him from ANY form of leadership…

His economic policies would not keep a McDonald’s afloat, let alone a country of over 350 million people where 1/2 of them get some sort of government hand-out….

The problem is NOT just Obama… If it were, the solution would be simple… The problem is that ALL of our politicians think that they are above their laws, and that all the laws they write should not apply to them… THAT is where it all started going wrong… Until we fix that, none of this will EVER get better…

And no matter WHICH party is in charge, over 4 years without passing a BUDGET (which is REQUIRED to be passed EVERY year, supposedly) is NOT something that should be tolerated..

I mean, without a budget, who can even say HOW MUCH money we are spending, let alone how much of it is being WASTED…

POLITICIANS need to be reminded that THEY WORK FOR US!! ANYONE who lets them forget that, does not deserve to BE AN AMERICAN!!!

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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:20pm
  If Obama was an Officer, his men would only follow him out of curiosity.
  
  This is a man who has hit rock bottom, and has continue to dig.
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:35pm
  To have a budget would mean being accountable, something the current criminal element have not had for many years for that very reason.
  
  Unfortunately I think the only way they will be reminded of the fact that they work for us would be by force at this point. Which in turn I have to believe they know this, and that is why they are pushing the first steps of major gun control.
  
  Our guberment is growing more, and more afraid of the citizens IMO, hence the tighter, and tighter police state to maintain their arrogant, self righteous, warped sense of power.
  
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- Salamander
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:44pm
  Obama is to governance what the ‘nouveau riche’ are to society! When you haven’t earned it ‘the good, old fashioned way’, you don’t respect its value!
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:08pm
What!!!! Where was Encinom and Yoursensei’s comments. I can’t beleive they didn’t make the cut. I am shocked and amazed.

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- OniKaze
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:11pm
  You too??? I was surprised myself not to find them on the list….
  
  Good on ya, D&J, like your post as usual…
  
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- Joshua81
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:34pm
  bwahahahhahaha! I was thinking the exact same thing!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:45pm
  i looked at the comments and they did not post anything….Therefore, your back-handed comment makes no sense
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:05pm
  Soy: Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
  
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- Joshua81
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 4:17pm
  oh yeah Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, forgot about Soybomb.. i knew there was another one we should have thrown in there… Soy.. try… try real hard and think.. his comments makes perfect sense.. it’s a joke.. nevermind, clearly over your head.
  
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Detesman
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 2:55pm
GAC 1218 hit the nail on the head by giving point by point examples of the governments failures. The more we look to Washington to solve our problems, the more we will be let down.

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tonypro
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 2:50pm
Definitely some well thought out comments. However I have to agree to disagree with Edotdot.

Just IMO we will never completely recover from ocommie, and his criminal cronies.

The damage at the end of 8 years will be likened to W.Wilson, and the results of it will haunt us for a very many years to come.

This of course providing that we survive the current dictatorship at all.

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- OniKaze
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:03pm
  Dead on….. Sir, I completely agree with you…
  
  The damage this moron has done, is damning, and mostly all of it will be impossible to roll-back…
  
  Obama is completely ignorant of the damage he has caused, because everyone on the left shelters him from the consequences of his actions… Both sides are guilty of this whole, “I will make laws that don’t apply to me…” mentality, and this is what has caused most of the obscene laws passed to be passed…
  
  The laws are supposed to be applied to us all equally, and ALL of our politicians have seemed to have forgotten that…
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:20pm
  I don’t think edotdot has ever considered that at some point the system will be so wrecked that only those wrecking will want to be D.C. That the debt and entitlements will become so unmanagable(they already are) that
  those with desire to fit our broken economy will see no point in ice skating up hill into hurricane force winds. That total destruction TWO PARTY SYSTEM and the federal court system might be the only way to save America. Cut out the cancer so to speak.
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:23pm
  OniKaze, you are correct.
  They act like they are our parents, and we are infant children. The old adage of “do as I say, not as I do” comes to mind.
  
  However, I don’t think he is ignorant of the damage he is accomplishing.
  I think he knows exactly what he’s doing, and is doing it intentionally.
  
  They can put themselves above mans law (as they do), but one day they will answer to Gods law.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 3:37pm
  republican party is infected with progressivism. I dont think Edotdot understands that. Substituting just any republican for a democrat does not mean things will be fixed
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 13, 2013 at 8:53pm
  soy, you’ve begun to get me worrying about myself–I keep agreeing with you!
  Yes, the GOP (pronounced GAWP rhymes with mop) has become a Flavor of Socialism Lite Progressive.
  
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seeds12
Posted on February 13, 2013 at 2:49pm
We have not had a Conservative in the white house since Reagan. Until the R’s repudiate the BIG government progressives i.e. the country has no hope. D’s want to go off the cliff at 100 mph and the R at 55. Our form of government will only work for a moral and just people, perhaps that is the problem. I accept Obama is a socialist I am surprised the American people are getting that way. But what can we expect with over 50 years of socialist indoctrination in our government (not public) schools along with a culture in moral decline as reflected by Hollywood and the MSM. We no longer have public schools just government indoctrination centers. The last problem is we have a media that reports stories to support their leftest narrative instead of news. One example is how many stories are there about shootings that save life’s or are the result of self defense or stopping a crime. So much of what is going on does not support the Narrative. So instead of having NEWS organizations we have Narrative support organizations.

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