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California Police Chief: ‘A Gun Is Not a Defensive Weapon — That Is a Myth’

Feb. 14, 2013 5:52pm Jason Howerton

Earlier this month, Emeryville, Calif. Police Chief Ken James argued that a gun is not a “defensive weapon” but rather an “offensive weapon used to intimidate and used to show power.”

“One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon,” he said. “That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon.”

He was speaking during a press conference promoting strict gun laws in California. James is also the chairman of the Police Chief Association’s Firearms Committee.

“A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” James added. “Police officers don’t carry a gun as a defensive weapon to defend themselves or their other officers. They carry a gun to be able to do their job in a safe and effective manner and face any oppositions we may come upon.”

California Police Chief: A Gun Is Not a Defensive Weapon That Is a Myth

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He went on: “If it was a defensive measure, why did we lose 55 officers nationwide last year to gun violence? And unfortunately, in just the two months of this year so far, we have lost two officers to gun violence in the state of California alone…We are asking and have been asking for reasonable regulations, not that are going to impact the legal gun owner.”

Those reasonable regulations include a ban on semi-automatic rifles, high capacity magazines and universal background checks. Lawmakers in California — and now Missouri — have also proposed legislation that includes potential confiscation of semi-automatic rifles.

Do you agree that a gun is not a “defensive” weapon?

(H/T: Washington Examiner)

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Jaracing2
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:22pm
I know not all of the people in Califorina Agree with the left, but is their some in the air out there maybe it’s the sun frying their brains. Maybe they are giving free Lobotomies or the pot is really good stuff and making them dumber bye the minute. You notice a trend for Califorina or is it just me UHMMM…….?????

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Zombee
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:22pm
Pack up your wife, kids and dogs and get the hell out of Kalifornia ASAP ! The Inmates are out of the asylum and are in charge. All of that bluster by Chief Ken James is irrelevant.
Second Amendment-The Right to keep and Bear Arms Shall not be Infringed. The words “shall not be infringed” are loud and clear for all to understand. The law says what it means and means what it says. Only anti-gun idiots misinterpret these clearly written words.

The united States of America was born at the point of a gun.
Our American Heritage is that every American is born with a gun in their Right Hand, the Holy Book in their Left Hand and Revolution and Defiance in their Hearts. We the People of this great country have always defied injustice, oppression and tyranny. Now we are faced with injustice, oppression and tyranny from our own Federal “government”. The Bill of Rights cannot be modified, abrogated or removed by any government, any corporation or any man.

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Thundergod
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:22pm
So if they arent defensive weapons,police officers only carry guns to murder citizens then? All the more reason to allow no infringement of the second amendment by a government who arms their police to intimidate and assault the populace. This yard gnome is too stupid to realize he just made the argument in favor of those who defend the second amendment from tyrannical government officials. He admitted that the reason they want to disarm citizens is to have the population at their mercy.

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- high school drop out
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:25pm
  Hate to disagree Thunder but a “Yard Gnome” has a use
  
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- Thundergod
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:37pm
  Yeah,the rampant stupidity is unbelievable. We all live in an episode of the Twilight Zone now orchestrated by our media and politicians. Everything is bogus. Like a bad dream,nothing seems to make sense. The pod people are hatching and exposing themselves. numbed by trying to reason what is actual reality,we are herded along like sheep,while they prod us for amusement just to hear us bleat.
  
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altops
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:20pm
OK moron you just gave justification for every person who sees an armed cop to shoot him first and ask questions later you god dam morn.

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Tri-ox
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:20pm
Emeryville is between Berkeley and Oakland – which might explain why this guy is such a liberal loon. The citizens of Emeryville should be very concerned for their safety with a nutjob like Ken James overseeing the police force and knowing that he will no longer defend them, and would like to take away their right to defend themselves. This is a recipe for disaster.

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HisStoryUn
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:20pm
California’s leadership seems to get worse by the day! http://hisstoryun.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/california-anti-gun-legislation/

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altops
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:19pm
moron moron moron blithering moron i hate morons.

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NavyRob
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:19pm
Wrong, Chief!

Police officers ARE acting in a defensive capacity. Unless you do things differently in California (wouldn’t necessarily surprise me in the land of Fruits and Nuts), police officers do not draw their weapon except in response to a known threat. If such a threat exists, they are allowed (and expected) to DEFEND themselves in the course of their duties to uphold the law.

If you think a gun can only be used OFFENSIVELY, then you are in the wrong job, and I don’t want you DEFENDING me!! Pull your head out and get a job you are qualified for… I hear McDonalds is hiring!

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vicsemprini
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:18pm
Shameless disgrace.

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MCLOVINIT
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:17pm
Ever heard the expression “dumb cop”?

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- 1BlueMoon
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:19pm
  “Bad Cop, No Doughnut!”
  
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Ohio50patriot
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:17pm
what a buffoon. This man is an embarassment to law enforcement. It is clear that he is no longer a police officer but just another leftist politician. As a law enforcement officer I would advise every law abiding citizen to purchase a gun become proficient with it learn the law and defend the innocent. Like the saying goes when seconds count the police are only minutes away.

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DeVain
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:15pm
Police don’t serve and protect the citizens either.

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RestoreCapitalism
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:15pm
The best defense is a really good offense. You idiot.

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spirited
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:15pm
He is offensive.

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OldPatriot55
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:14pm
I’ve been a cop for 40 years and have never heard such dribble in my life! People are alive today because I was there to DEFEND them. Criminals are dead today because a homeowner was armed to DEFEND his home. It’s really as simple as that! Political Correctness Kills!

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Serenabit
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:13pm
It illustrates that this goon just intends to “intimidate and show power” to the citizens that he is supposedly sworn to serve. And people wonder why there is a sense of distrust from the public to elected officials and some law enforcement officers. (Yes, only some LEO’s as most understand that they are obliged to uphold the Constitution and enforce only lawful directives.)

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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:13pm
Why do cops have guns, then?

Where do these people come from? I’m starting to think these stories about chemtrails are right. How else do we explain the sheer stupidity in this country?

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Saving_the_Republic.com
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:12pm
Another traitor to the Republic identified! Thats okay this is good because the lines are clearly being drawn and we are now seeing who will and will not be on the side of the people. It also shows who will and will not honor the oath they took!

CA is on its way to being Greece v2.0! Many of us unemployed and broke are going to be trapped here unfortunately

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RAMJR
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:12pm
So, by his mindset no police officer should have a weapon to protect and DEFEND…but to attack and OFFEND?
The reason our courts, jails, police, military and politicians are failing moral responsibility and catre to ‘social justice’ that rewards crime, criminals and terrorists.
NO police officer should even be a police officer with this mindset. Just imagine what is happening to our military with the same mindset.

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Whiteeagle
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:12pm
‘Ignoramus’

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Attention2Detail
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:12pm
Does this guy not get that if a gun is not a defensive weapon, then the police should not be carrying them? What an idiot.

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symphonic
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:11pm
SEMANTICS. Its both, but he is emphasizing that guns are used offensively. Not true when a person defends their home.

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GuruMeditation
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:10pm
What a moron… The cop sounds like he’s on par with some of these criminals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPfNs3_RO4

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Loveland55
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:10pm
“. . . and face any oppositions we may come upon.”
That sounds very much like a defensive use to me.

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- Southerner01
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:39pm
  The best defense is a good offense.
  
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- peace maker
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:30pm
  This guy makes no sense what so ever. He is a walking contadiction.
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:40pm
  So… I thought police officers carried guns to defend themselves against criminals they are trying to arrest. You mean to tell me that this officer thinks he is authorized, as well as his officers, to carry a gun for offensive purposes?
  
  Why would a beat cop writing traffic tickets need a gun for offensive purposes? Are cops now pointing a gun at people when they request a traffic ticket to be signed? If not, then they don’t need them either. If guns are not a good defensive tool, then the beat cops can use their night sticks when a traffic stop goes violent.
  
  What a jackass…
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:45pm
  So police carry guns to commit offenses against citizens. If guns are a defense then unarmed your offensive forces.
  
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- Michael61
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:08pm
  Kalifornica should hire a real cop instead of this buffon. Like this cop (Chief of police in Republic of Moldova). Loose translation:
  
  “Police don’t have enough resources to protect every citizen everywhere he goes. That’s why our congress allowed citizens to carry pistols. I encourage everybody to carry a gun and to defend yourself against criminals.”
  
  And imagine what? In about 2 weeks time Moldova went from the capital of robberies and burglaries to almost crime-less city… I wonder why?
  
  Same happened in other former Soviet republics (Latvia, Lituania, Estonia)…
  
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- fixer
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:41pm
  Are ALL the people of California retarded,or just the ones that make the news?
  
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- TheFirebrand
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:07pm
  Yet another idiot … Ok Mr Cop. Let see you fight off a band of criminals without fire arms! Freaking moron!
  
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- SON_OF_RJJINGADSDEN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:39pm
  California doesn’t need guns. They need to fall off in to the Pacific and become The Gulf of Nevada.
  
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- donotdrinkthekoolade
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:23pm
  I agree with Peacemaker that this guy makes no sense. My husband, who retired from law enforcement in California, just scratched his head when he read this. I don’t know of ANYONE in law enforcement that does not believe their job is to protect and serve. How does one “protect” without defending? This lunatic must be a MARXIST PLANT!!!!
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:47pm
  There is no such thing as a LEGAL OFFENSIVE use of a weapon, not even for Police. Every single time an Officer uses his gun it must be in DEFENSE of someone or something. There does not exist a scenario where a Police Officer can justifiably (or legally) use his gun OFFENSIVELY for ANYTHING. By definition that is what Criminals do (that’s why it is called an “OFFENSE”) That is the difference between a FREE state and a POLICE State. This Police Chief just gave the textbook definition of abuse of power. Police don’t carry guns to intimidate people and impose their will on people they carry guns to PROTECT us from people who use guns to intimidate people and impose their will on them. Are we living in the twilight zone here?
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:50pm
  “Earlier this month, Emeryville, Calif. Police Chief Ken James argued that a gun is not a “defensive weapon” but rather an “offensive weapon used to intimidate and used to show power.” ”
  
  Spoken like a true government thug (he’s got a future with tyrants Bloomberg and Obama):
  “LAPD Police-thugs Bravely Subdue Dangerous TV News Camera”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvNrtk6GJ0
  
  No, this Nazi knows nothing about America and our Liberty:
  
  “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. … But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
  -The Declaration Of Independence
  
  Yes, arms DO defend … against petty thugs & tyrants like Police Chief Ken James.
  America’s Founders knew what they were talking about when they warned us of standing-army Police Departments, eh?
  
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- chicago76
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:54pm
  This guy is a dumb mf. Just an opinion.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:53am
  Sheriff-Dude: I don’t care if a gun is a pot sticker or a tomato plant stake…if I can use it to protect my home, my family from your out-of-control gangs, and drug soaked illegals, your gutless wonders who have “offensive guns” to use against us while your bloody 911 line is busy or we’re put on hold…YOU BETCHA we’ll have a gun… GO sit on it. We, the Patriots, are not going to be “bullied” into giving up our guns.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:32am
  and…tell me this guy doesn’t look like he fell out of the makeup trailer for a Western B-flick ! Really Dude? How long it take you to fix your ****. WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE PEOPLE and pay them with TAX money too???
  
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- TEOTWASWKI
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:03am
  Sooooo, the police are offensive . That may explain their attack on the two news women.
  
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ProudCapitalist
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:10pm
Another reason to give California back to Mexico…

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- BOGOTSTOGO
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:22pm
  What an idiot!! Give this guy another hit of liberal kool aid
  
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- BadDog-NoBiscuit
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:25pm
  If you don’t live in California, keep your stupid comments/opinions to yourself…
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:26pm
  Has my vote. Secession by sequestration
  
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- le misanthrope
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:29pm
  They already took it, after American ideals improved it a bit.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:30pm
  If guns do not protect the Police, then take them away from them. we do not need a Police force who’s only purpose is to threaten and intimidate the citizens.
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:32pm
  @baddog aka encinom.
  Whats the matter pookie, you dont like the first as well as the second amendment? How about you go f your californication self, f-n idiot…..
  
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- bonesiii
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:36pm
  Yeah, it’s really not that hard to grasp. There’s even a famous cliche to answer it — the best defense is a good offense. Yes, it’s a tool for offense — which can be used in defense.
  
  Why have so many officers died from gun deaths? That would be because bullets were fired at them which hit vital organs or the like and they died… That doesn’t logically argue one way or another as far as the semantic label you slap on it. The fact remains that in a “kill or be killed” situation, a cop or a citizen in general can defend themselves with a gun.
  
  Ergo, defensive weapon. If used that way by good guys.
  
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- Red Meat
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:39pm
  He’s just another worthless civil servant with a big pension.
  
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- chopperpaul
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:40pm
  Liberal idiot.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:43pm
  We know why the chief wears a gun. Its to intimidate and show power
  
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- Farmhand82
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:45pm
  This guy is a moron of the highest caliber. Is he implying then that every time an officer shoots a suspect he is wrong to do so because guns are offensive weapons rather than defensive? Do the police have free reign to assassinate anyone they want then in this guys mind? The logic he tries to present is bafflingly pathetic to the point of being painful. 55 slain police officers is what he presents as evidence that no guns are ever used defensively because…..? I still can’t wrap my head around what he’s trying to argue. He might argue that guns are sometimes used offensively sure to which the common reply would be something along the lines of “no ****, Sherlock.” However the vast majority of legl gun owners use firearms only when they feel threatened. The vast majority of civilian incidents don’t even involve shooting but rather just presenting the firearm to scare off or force the criminal to surrender.
  
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- BSdetector
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:46pm
  “If guns do not protect the Police, then take them away from them. we do not need a Police force who’s only purpose is to threaten and intimidate the citizens.” -WarMunger_Al
  
  Just quoting this in case anyone missed the perfectly articulated reason this police chief is too stupid to lead his force out of a paper bag.
  
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- PoliticallyRightUs.Com
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:57pm
  @WarMunger_Al… I was going to post but You beat me to it!
  typical cops 90% arrogance and 10% bully!
  
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- kadster01
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:07pm
  I would be all for CA seceding, but as Rush Limbaugh has frequently pointed out, they are usually the trendsetter for the rest of the country. Be prepared to hear more and more of this garbage from people sworn to protect us. It’s going to be all up to us, folks. The powers that be are aligning with each other, and against us.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:07pm
  Well prove they are not defensive weapons and send your officers out on the job without them. What a buffoon.
  
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- Tracker2021
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:07pm
  Simple question Chief Ken James.
  
  Define the use of deadly force chief? I have to ask the question because according to his statement “that guns are NOT defensive weapons”. There are no justified police shootings in his precinct. Because guns are only offensive according to him. How in the heck did this guy get through the academy? Even though he is a pencil pushing chief he still has to qualify every year on the range. Who instructed this piece of crap? What an utter idiot!
  
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- TotallyNotATroll
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:10pm
  It’s true, cops never defend themselves with guns. They are always on the defense, also, kudos, this article and its content would fit perfectly without any edit if moved to the dailycurrant or the onion.
  
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- katzkiner
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:12pm
  You don’t have to give anything, they are taking it. Reconquista baby!
  
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- PJL
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:16pm
  California is a red state outside of the big cities…so give the liberals back to NY, Minnesota and elsewhere, living in Big Bear I had my guns out for defence in case Dorner came through my door and most of my neighbours did also.
  
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- rx4nv
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:16pm
  Is it “defensive” or “offensive” is a matter of perspective. A policeman outwardly carries his weapon (ie gun) to show power and intimidate people away from doing something stupid. So yes, to a cop it is an offensive weapon. However, you are in your home at night and someone is prowling outside your door and barges in, the use of a gun becomes a defensive weapon to save your life. It is not intended to show power or intimidation at this point, but to “defend” your life. This police chief has a biased perspective as a cop. I’m sure if he had ever been in a one on one shoot out with a villain, he would realize he is trying to “defend” his life. The trivial fight over “offensive” versus “defensive” is only political, when it comes to protecting my life or others, semantics don’t help.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:19pm
  He’s just following the party line….he’s a Union Member….remember?
  
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- marssnw
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:35pm
  Has this guy not seen Chicago lately? This cop is a joke. He sits behind a desk. What would he know about the subject? I doubt you get into to many shoot outs from behind a desk.
  
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- RonPaulOrNoOne
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:51pm
  Then turn in your gun officer. and go catch criminals and see how easy that is for you.
  
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- FNGRNFAN
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:56pm
  Guess what DOG-NOB as long as your queen and law makers in CA keep maken stupid laws you are going to get comments/opinions from WE THE PEOPLE.
  
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- Bowlz
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:59pm
  This guy swore to uphold and defend the constitution. What a loser/bureaucrat covering his ass. So what, a gun is offensive when legal owners have them? Or when criminals have them? How about when police have them? He’s talking out of both sides of his mouth. Hope the money is worth it because you’re a sell-out to yourself, your oath and the American people. Retire and work on a golf course……………..
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:03pm
  “One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon,” he said. “That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon.”
  
  He’s right, but only because the concept of police being there to PROTECT and SERVE is dead. If police still believed in PROTECTING, what else would a gun be for except defense?
  
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- Cemoto78
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:19pm
  This guy is a fool and has no business being in charge of any police department. If their side arms are not defensive weapons then why do officers use them when confronted by similar or more force? If he were the Chief in the city I lived I would be doing my best to get this guy fired immediately.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:26pm
  This police Chief needs to have all his officers turn in their ammo right now before any more get hurt. Smart as he is all he needs to do is put up a sign at each end of town stating that it is a “Thug Free Town along side the sign that says “Gun Free City.”
  
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- oldguy49
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:35pm
  i thought the mex’s already took it over………….
  
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- Bohump
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:35pm
  I wonder what the Color of the Tree’s are in His World ???
  
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- Jinglebob
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:36pm
  This “Chief,” got his job and keeps it because of his Liberal views. Anyone knows that a weapon can be both an offensive and a defensive tool depending on how and when it is used. I just wonder how his rank and file officers feel about this. Perhaps they should go on duty unarmed.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:40pm
  I been saying give California back to Mexico. Boycott all goods and services from California. Impose a Tariff on all goods imported into your state from California. ALL States Bordering California should impose a entry and exit fee at all California points of entry. All military bases should be closed and moved to different States.
  
  All Law Enforcement Agents in California must hand in their personal Firearms for Destruction. They can only check out a department issued Firearm when shift starts and check in Firearms when shift ends. This will prevent abuse of power by off duty Law Enforcement Agents as stated by Ken James.
  
  Stop dealing with California, boycott everything that has anything to do with California and you will see changes when we hurt them in the pocket book, I also, encourage any state that produces energy and sells it to California to cut them off.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:46pm
  I would also like to impose a 10 year residence law for States that border California to keep these idiots from voting to ruin other states.
  
  If you move from California, you must be a resident for 10 years before being allowed to vote in that states election. you can still vote in California during that 10 year waiting period.
  
  California no longer represents what this country was founded on and what so many have sacrificed for us to have the freedoms we enjoy today.
  
  I ask everyone to petition your representatives on a Federal Level and seek to have all militay bases in california closed and relocated to States that hold the Constitution of the United States in high regards.
  
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- hypnos
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:08pm
  Maybe in your hands it’s an offensive weapon, in everyone’s else’s hands its a defensive one.
  
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- A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:12pm
  No surprise. Cali is one of the most corrupt places in the nation.
  
  I guess since it’s offensive he doesn’t need one. Unless of course he plans on gunning down people in the street, which I’m sure will be for their safety.
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:36pm
  This is one of the dumbest things that someone with a badge has ever said. Even the President wouldn’t say something this idiotic against guns and that is saying something.
  
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- Fourthhorseman
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:42pm
  “If you don’t live in California, keep your stupid comments/opinions to yourself…”
  
  I’m sure most of us here are thinking the same about anyone that DOES live in California…………..
  
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- Grey Eagle
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:49pm
  It is a defensive weapon if someone breaks into your house and tries to kill you.
  
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- nonofmybiznez
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:05pm
  Tell that to everyone who has used a gun to defend their home, life or property. What an idiot. Just because he has a badge doesn’t mean he is smart. I love cops and most won’t agree with him.
  
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- Quiata
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:13pm
  @PROUDCAPITALIST “Another reason to give California back to Mexico…”
  
  Nah…wouldn’t it be better to make them work for it? Molon labe.
  
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- Quiata
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:19pm
  Actually, the police chief is correct: a firearm is better as an offensive weapon, esp. in close quarters. “Too close – don’t underestimate the knife” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo
  
  BUT, he’s doesn’t realize that he’s actually helping to support the true purpose of the 2nd amendment. Government likes it when the scary intimidating weapon is pointed TOWARDS the populace/subjects, not the other way around.
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:25pm
  “”and face any oppositions we may come upon.””.
  .Uh…That would be defense……IDIOT!!!
  
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- OccamsSword
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:26pm
  Liberal logic is a myth, and very ” offensive “
  
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- JMadison
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:28pm
  He gives people named James a bad name.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:38pm
  I think he should probably retire. He’s seen and heard about too many cops being killed with armor piercing cop killer bullets, something the NRA strongly supports. He’s probably also against explosive bullets, those bullets that explode when they hit their target, such as those President Reagan and James Brady were hit with. A type of ammo the NRA strongly supports because of the 2nd Amendment.
  
  He definitely should step down. His perspective, like that of most policemen, is to protect innocent citizens. His perspective is all the cops and innocent citizens that have been killed with cop killer and explosive bullets, as well as all those people he’s sworn to protect who have been blown away with high capacity weapons. He’s seen too many brains and too much blood splattered on sidewalks and house walls, and too many gun owners who have killed friends, loved ones and themselves with firearms. He’s jaded and no longer capable of serving.
  
  What he hasn’t seen, evidently, is all those people who have saved lives with semi-automatic high capacity weapons, the patriots who whipped out those bad boys to stop some bad guy during the commission of a crime!
  
  The last person you want to listen too on the gun control issue is a cop! They don’t get it!
  
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- sURFNmADNESS
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:47pm
  Yet another pot smoking hippie surfaces in California.. Who would have guessed.
  
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- S G Applebee
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:53pm
  What a ignoramus! Of course guns are DEFENSIVE weapons for police. They’re NOT ALLOWED to use theirs UNTIL they are threatened.
  What the hell has happened to Common Sense in this country?
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:56pm
  The best defense is a good offense. Make the California police departments “gun free zones” first before applying that rule to the citizens.
  
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- txjb
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:02pm
  baddog, if his comments have an impact on my liberties , you damn right I can comment , you jerk !!
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:08pm
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  The guy is a hypocrite and apparently ignorant. They are both. He states “They carry a gun to be able to do their job in a safe and effective manner and face any oppositions we may come upon.” He himself contradicts his own assertion. What part of “…face any oppositions…” isn’t defensive? What part of someone shooting at you and you defending yourself isn’t defensive? For example, have you seen some of those reality shows where it shows footage of the highway patrol pulling over a vehicle? The trooper gets up to the window and is suddenly fired upon and fighting for his life and fires back. Do you really think the officer is on offense at that point? No he was ambushed and in defensive survival mode.
  
  Show of force is only part of the equation. This guy is simply playing politics! Furthermore, he states “If it was a defensive measure, why did we lose 55 officers nationwide last year to gun violence?” This question has absolutely nothing to do with what he is claiming. The 55 officers were lost because of criminals murdering them.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:12pm
  I agree 100%. Send this guy & California back to Mexico. A gun is a TOOL. It can be used defensively (to deter an attack) or offensively (like when Police use them when their Rodney King LAPD clubs are too bloody to hold). Any tool can be used for good or evil purposes. It is not the tool that is the problem, it is the people that use them for evil.
  
  If California, Illinois, & New York want to disarm all their law abiding citizens so only the criminals will have guns, that is their choice by the Constitution (unless King Obama abolishes it). That just means that people that choose to legally own guns will move to gun friendly states and take their incomes with them. Let CA, IL, & NY become bastions of crime and the state governments collapse because most of the tax revenue has moved away. Then they can cheer at how wonderful things are there & how smart they are.
  
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- Techcon
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:14pm
  Hey, Chief Dumba$$, offense and defense are about action and intent not the means, STUPID.
  
  If you’re attacking somebody, you’re on offense.
  
  If you’re responding to an attack, you’re on defense.
  
  The weapon doesn’t have ONE f**king thing to do WITH IT!
  
  Another “Spoiled Brat” (a.k.a. liberal) bastardizing a govt. agency.
  
  Pathetic.
  
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- snufy
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:15pm
  So, Baddog, only Californians are allowed to comment on this story? I think you need to increase the doseage of your meds.
  As for the story, the chief is only saying what his mayorial boss wants him to say. He wants to keep his job, whether he actually believes the crap he’s saying or not, which is about as a stupid of a comment as I have ever heard.
  
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- nistron
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:45pm
  so basically what he’s saying is when the cops out there are out numbered, they call for back up, and while waiting for back up, their guns aren’t to defend themselves, their guns are to show force, intimidate and go on the offensive. why call for back up then?
  
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- Farmhand82
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:34am
  Meteor, haha what the hell are you babbling about “cop killer” bullets? You do realize that your average big or medium game hunting rifle will punch a hole right through military grade body armor and plates at close even approaching medium range right? You’ll have to essentially ban all rifles if you’re worried about “cop killer” ammo. And uh I don’t know about you but I can’t remember a single instance of exploding bullets being used in a crime outside of I guess the assassination attempt. Not really sure what you’re on about there. You know he said the nation lost 55 officers to guns last year nation wide, in a country of a few hundred million. Yeah I don’t think he was washing off his buddy officers brains frequently as you laughably imply. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit before running around telling us all how to live. The whole self righteous progressive thing gets old.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:34am
  WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT A COP TO SAY?
  
  The police are just as corrupt and demonic as the government they pretend to protect. What he says is something the Nazi SS leader Heinrich Himmler said.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:36am
  Maybe we should stop eating food that is grown in California. There must be something in the water or the soil that would make someone say those things.
  
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- OnSheepdogs
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:44am
  Alright…everyone must know that police chiefs in general, are a joke. Chiefs are appointed managerial positions within city police departments. Chiefs are hired and fired by the city councils who employ them. Thus, a chief will do what the city council tells him to do, or no contract re-newel. This guy is a chief of a small liberal city, where all three council women and the mayor are leftist Democrats. These types of politicians use police chiefs as puppets for their agendas. I don’t pay any heed to chiefs’ opinions. They are not looking out for the welfare of citizens, they are just looking out for their own paychecks. “Chief” James proves this with his stupid and ignorant opinion. Compare him with the honesty that Sheriff Clark of Milwaukee, told his citizens.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:05am
  Wisdom7 says, “The guy is a hypocrite and apparently ignorant.” I think I see you’re point. If I understand you, you’re saying that guns are both an offensive and defensive weapon. And this Police Chief said that guns are offensive weapons. So you say this police chief is “ignorant” and a “hypocrite” because guns are sometimes used defensively by police when attacked by a murderer who bought an arsenal and cop killer bullets legally in the parking lot of a gun show.
  
  I read your claim that you are more subtle, more intelligent and/or more honest than this police chief. You must be proud of being so smart and so aware of reality. Apparently, you think this police chief is either stupid or trying to fool people about how guns are used. Aren’t you the clever one?
  
  His perspective is different than yours though, as I said in my post, which you evidently did not read. He’s gone to the funerals of murdered cops, Seen the brains and blood leaking onto the pavement. The dead friends and family members of gun owners. The corpses laying dead. The suicides. The Aurora victims, the Virginia State victims and so on ad nauseum. That probably influences your opinion.
  
  How many corpses have you seen with their guts and brains and blood strewn across crime scenes? Maybe you are the ignorant one living in a fantasy world where the good guys whip out their guns and save all those innocent people.
  
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- cgnick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:11am
  What a jack wagon! A gun is a tool. A tool is what ever you make of it. Whether you use for bad things or to stop others from doing bad things. I can’t stand people who play on the emotions of others. This man is an example of exactly what is wrong with the LAPD, no logic, no truth and no accountability.
  
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- Farmhand82
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:57am
  IMeteors, I guarantee this police chief has seen more alcahol related death and mayhem than gun, yet you don’t see him or any of your fellow liberals pressing for a return to prohibition. Statistically alcahol kills substantially more people in the US in various ways than guns do. Do you drink? If so, are you willing to give up ever drinking alcahol again because some people drink irresponsibly? Because it is virtually the same situation. Law abiding gun owners such as myself refuse to be punished for someone else’s actions.
  Secondly, it’s not just a fantasy of stopping crime. Guns are used in over a million instances a year to stop crime. I’VE used a gun to stop a crime before. A guy had been ripping off the copper wiring from our farm nightly for a few days until finally we caught him. We had called the police a couple times but it’s not like they have the manpower to run a nightly stakeout in the middle of nowhere. No shots were fired as is the case in almost every case and the situation was resolved peacefully. It’s anecdotal sure, but there are a lot of instances like that out there. I’d much rather be independent than to always have to rely on the government or emergency services, especially where I live 25 minutes from the nearest police station.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:01am
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  So every time an officer uses their sidearm it’s because the person firing on them has an entire arsenal purchased from a gun show? That’s quite the blanket statement. It shows you are detached from reality. Also, what you read was my claim this guy is simply playing politics and being a hypocrite. However, yes I am being more honest than this police chief, and I am certainly more honest than you.
  
  “You must be proud of being so smart and so aware of reality.”
  
  Yes I am. Are you jealous? I can see right through you.
  
  “His perspective is different than yours though, as I said in my post, which you evidently did not read.”
  
  Obviously. I read your post. You accuse me of attempting to be clever, when in fact it is you who do so in every post you make. It is one reason I replied to you.
  
  “He’s gone to the funerals of murdered cops, Seen the brains and blood leaking onto the pavement. The dead friends and family members of gun owners. The corpses laying dead. The suicides. The Aurora victims, the Virginia State victims and so on ad nauseum. That probably influences your opinion.”
  
  The world is coming to an end. The sky is falling. Zombies are coming. Anything else?
  
  “Maybe you are the ignorant one living in a fantasy world where the good guys whip out their guns and save all those innocent people.”
  
  What exactly is the point you are trying to make other than an emotional driven display of hyperbole?
  
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- BhamLyan
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:03am
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  Please tell me you’re being sarcastic with your whole “cop killer” anti-NRA rant.
  
  If by “armor piercing” you mean any rifle round capable of killing an elk or other thick-skinned animal, then yes, the NRA supports that because they support hunting.
  
  By “explosive” I can only guess you mean fragmenting, another common type of bullet used in hunting.
  
  Hinckley used a .22 rimfire revolver when he tried to assassinate Reagen, not a semi-automatic, nor high-capacity. I don’t recall any version of the story where the rimfire cartridges somehow transformed into grenades as Hinckley fired them.
  
  Chief James probably has not seen the thousands of cases of law-abiding citizens using weapons in self-defense because California’s politicians have done everything in their power to prevent lawful defense. However, if you look back to the Watts riots, you can find a perfectly legitimate use of high-capacity semi-automatics to defend against a rioting mob.
  
  You also don’t get to use Seung-Hui Cho and Virginia Tech as an example of the need for an “assault weapons” ban because Cho used at least 16 ban-compliant magazines in his rampage.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:27am
  “If it was a defensive measure, why did we lose 55 officers nationwide last year to gun violence?
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  Because criminals love to kill cops?
  
  How many cops would have been killed if they DIDN’T have guns to defend themselves? Have you been hitting the bong or are you just plain stupid, Chief?
  
  Dumb chief says, “They carry a gun to be able to… face any oppositions we may come upon.”
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  Any oppositions? Like, say, bullets flying their way, MORON?
  
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- NoSleeper
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:12am
  So I am supposed to feel better knowing that the police carry guns not to protect themselves and the citizenry but to intimidate and show power over the citizenry? Now THAT is scary. If I would brandish a firearm for these purposes and not in self-defense, I would be arrested.
  
  And for Baddog…I don’t live in CA any longer, but I was born and raised there, spending over 25 consecutive years there. Still have family and friends there as well and used to travel there on business (until the companies I dealt with fled). Hope this makes me qualified to comment in your eyes (actually, I don’t care…your argument is fallacious).
  
  When CA fails, it should fall into some ‘less than full statehood’ status and be forced to restructure and reapply for full statehood. During this time, adjoining states should annex portions of the state and, most importantly, northern CA (excluding San Fran) should breakaway and form a new state (Jefferson), a state based on the philosophy of limited Government and maximum individual liberty. Let southern CA keep the large populations, unsupportable welfare, high taxes and ridiculous social progressivism…then see which one thrives.
  
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- Thomas
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:36am
  Well who does he think he is? This guy is on a power trip and needs to have his firearm removed along with every other cop who thinks like him. That is a scary statement to hear from a cop. This country is about freedom not oppression and he better rethink his ideas or seek psychological help.
  
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- Bakerredrum
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:37am
  I call it the Country of California all the time. Its were all liberals are based. Lol
  
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- joshua1-9
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:32am
  Then we should call the Defense department the Offense Department. I wonder how that would go with these idiotic liberals. I have heard it all now. It could only come from California.
  
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- sam1064
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:34am
  he can give up his weapon, we will keep ours for our defense. The Second Amendment is not about offence its about defense. But keep in mind he is a politician, police chiefs usually are. I bet if one anonymously surveys his officers I bet most will disagree with him and approve of lawfully trained citizens having guns.
  
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- KURT1010
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:48am
  What city is he chief of police ? Doesnt say ….what a nut !
  
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- dcatkin
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:37am
  Jesus what an idiot. and we should give California back to Mexico accept the same way we got it, with no infrastructure. Just level the damp and let them have it.
  
  Free Our Country
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:34am
  The Verbosity / Send the Meteors Method
  
  Step 1 Go to 1st page of posts
  Step 2 Find main comment thread
  Step 3 Use progressive talking points and write a 3 paragraph rebuttal Pull stuff out your a$$ as needed. Use links sparingly & lie
  
  Use Step 1 & 2 to find most of Meteors postings.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:41am
  SendTheMeteors
  He’s ***probably*** also against explosive bullets, those bullets that explode when they hit their target, >>>such as those President Reagan and James Brady were hit with
  
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  BhamLyan
  
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  Please tell me you’re being sarcastic with your whole “cop killer” anti-NRA rant.
  
  Hinckley used a .22 rimfire revolver when he tried to assassinate Reagen, not a semi-automatic, nor high-capacity. I don’t recall any version of the story where the rimfire cartridges somehow transformed into grenades as Hinckley fired them.
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  As you can see ladies & gentlemen Meteors got “pwned” by multiple people. I think Meteors likes getting pwned, because they keep trotting out arguments unsubstantiated by facts.
  
  This was starkly shown by her/his being corrected on her description of the gun Hinkley used.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:51am
  BadDog-NoBiscuit “If you don’t live in California, keep your stupid comments/opinions to yourself”
  
  Go F yourself. We are sick of the mess you are spewing out on the rest of the nation politically and financially. We are well aware the past/present/future costs put upon us all when your ways cause us to pay to bail you out. We are sick of the leftist filth your movie industry spews out on us and the rest of the world. We are appalled at the indecency, the moral decay and the coming judgements from God you are bringing down upon us all. We despise the endless and mindless brainwashing your progressive communist Hollywood has shoved down the throats of generations both here and abroad. We are fed up with the interference in politics nationally your communist celebrities create with their fame, money, and voices every day for decades. Do not tell us to keep our opinions to ourselves you are bringing doom to us all.
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:10am
  Ok mr. police dumb***, then explain to the 1.6+ million people that DEFEND themselves against CRIMINALS each year. Ship every liberal and progressive in the US to commiefornia, detonate enough explosives in the fault and let them split from the US for good.
  
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- ApolloLou
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:13am
  Bogotstogo…how dare you refer to KoolAid. Didn’t you know it was racist and all the “ists”? Only the poor drinks KoolAid now, the rich drink CapriSuns, Juice Boxes, etc. (I hope everyone knows I’m joking here). If not you’re a jokist.
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:16am
  Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; The ‘reasonable, common sense gun laws’ need to apply to law enforcement too. What an idiot; and he’s being paid by the taxpayer………..fire him!!
  
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- bonesiii
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:22am
  Why do the liberals have such a base urge to redefine everything? They describe the same things often, conveying the same meaning, but act as if they are morally outraged that a particular term carrying the identical meaning has been used. It’s all so stupid.
  
  The gun is defensive when used to defend yourself. The police chief described exactly this situation. It is utterly pointless for him then to object to the term.
  
  It would be fair to say a gun is not JUST a defensive weapon, to be clear. But to say “it is not a defensive weapon” is indisputably wrong.
  
  To use an analogy, it would be like acting offended or perplexed that a car is called a “vehicle” or “transportation”, and giving the reason “the car often just its in the parking lot not transporting anything. It is used to get people from point A to point B, NOT for transportation. It is not a vehicle, it’s a box with wheels that we use to move around more easily.” This is exactly what liberals do.
  
  Witness also the similar answers Pelosi and others have recently given in trying to deny that we have spending problems. They then go on to admit in different words (sometimes) that the meaning is correct, but object to the term.
  
  Of course, the real reason they do this is to obscure the issue so they can seem “reasonable” when they sneak in foolish, clearly wrong ideas, also usually re-labelled deceptively, like that they want to raise taxes, or ban guns.
  
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:32am
  His comment is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard!
  Police chiefs are political appointees and have become just another political shill.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:35am
  Send the meatballs –
  
  Your comment “He’s seen and heard about too many cops being killed with armor piercing cop killer bullets, something the NRA strongly supports”
  
  “Cop-killer” bullets are a myth born from media hype and nurtured by unrealistic Hollywood portrayals and the deliberately misleading claims of the anti-gun lobby. An objective, rational look at the facts quickly separates the myth from the reality. Knowledge is power.
  
  Here are the facts:
  - “Armor piercing” ammunition is only legally available to law enforcement agencies and to the armed forces.
  - Rather than opposing the ban on “armor piercing” ammunition, the NRA was in fact instrumental in crafting the law that Congress ultimately passed.
  
  Not one police man in America has been killed by “cop killer” bullets from a handgun.
  
  We do know though that blacks make up 12.5% of the population, but do 40% of all cop killings.
  
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- carhouse
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:11am
  and the last two cops killed were by another cop, so with that logic, ban cops
  this guy is on the take come on
  
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- SocietyOfUniversalKnowledge
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:12am
  This guy is an idiot and needs to be removed from having any responsibility.
  He contradicts his original statement by using comments that support the opposite premiss.
  
  The ONLY reason cops carry guns is to defend themselves!!!
  A safe and effective manner screams defensive.
  Again…what an idiot and waste of human flesh.
  
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- Jim
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:26am
  I have to agree… What is it about this leftist IDIOT… Yes, emphasis is on idiot. Come to my house and tell me that…. You are a police chief…. you are worse than the commander in chief… must be this word “chief”. Is anyone out there sane… please, CALIFORNIA, go away. All you who are in California and is still sane, you are welcome to the other states who still love this country and believe in the second amendment. It is people like this idiot that gives us the right to defend ourselves. I feel I am in the twilight zone.
  
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- Justathinkin
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:31am
  @Baddog-Nobiscuit
  
  Put on your big girl panties and deal with it. CAli is a not the place it once was and is only going to get worse at this point. As a Cali native that moved to Texas to get away from that special sort of crazy called Cali; I can assure you, many of the people here are correct in saying that Cali needs to leave the Union. The state legislators are incapable of creating a working budget and living within their means, making Cali a financial burden on the rest of the Nation. Cali houses Hollywood, a symbol of depravity and moral ambiguity (at best); and they seem to be proud of that. They have the resources to be the 8th largest economy int he world, yet choose to be poor in honor of a salamander. Cali has the highest “standards” for education, they just don’t enforce them and encourage adults to let unionized teachers lead their kids into the future. Homeowners do not own their land, only the top 3 ft of soil and the house (and that isn’t always the truth either). These are just a few of the reasons Cali needs to leave or stop complaining when others point out the flaws of the once great, but now a sad lump of decaying humanity, liberal Democrat state.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:31am
  “A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” James added. “Police officers don’t carry a gun as a defensive weapon to defend themselves or their other officers. They carry a gun to be able to do their job in a safe and effective manner and face any oppositions we may come upon.”
  
  This tells you everything you need to know about liberals and California police forces. Police don’t carry sidearms to “fight crime” or to “project power”, they carry them for self defense, the same way armed citizens do. The fact this guy states police carry them to intimidate and show power tells us everything we need to know about how police in CA behave, and why they behave that way. This “man” is a tyrant. He is a statist jackbooted enforcer of the State. Californians get what they deserve.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:53am
  ProudCapitalist
  Posted on February 14, 2013 at 6:10pm
  Another reason to give California back to Mexico…
  
  Not necessary.. Just stand back and watch it implode.
  
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- Dustoff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:55am
  Are you sure Mexico wants it back? (-:
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:59am
  @ 00100111,
  Precisely. They carry weapons to enforce State will. Which means they are willing to murder you to enforce State will. Not to defend themselves, but to murder citizens who offend the will of the State. They want to disarm citizens to make it that much easier to murder citizens without process. This is the new Amerika, and what you can expect in the Peoples Republic of California.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:28am
  i wonder how much that would decrease the national debt by and it sounds like a good idea.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:55am
  Look at this long-**** with the 4 stars on his lapel. I crack up every time I see these “civilian” (yes, they are CIVILIANS too) police chiefs acting like they are a military General officer. What a joke .
  
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- Yeah_Buddy
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:18am
  More proof you don’t need to be smart to be a cop. I can sympathize that cops would like all citizens disarmed, making their jobs easier and they would be less scared though. Look how intimated and scared to pieces they were of one rogue cop.
  
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- jsl55
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:44am
  @baddog
  I do live in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. I have lived here my entire life, almost 60 years. It has turned into a cesspool because of liberal idiots. That is why I’ll be leaving after I retire next year. I’ll be moving to a more free state. This police chief is a prime example of what is wrong with the PRK. He is an idiot.
  
  It’s a good thing that I didn’t know that a gun wasn’t a defensive weapon 30 years ago. That’s when Smith & Wesson defended me against a felon that shot at me in my home.
  
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- obamasacommie
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:50am
  I thought we already gave California back to Mexico. If we didn’t then where are all of the Americans. These liberal morons don’t want firearms for defensive weapons then don’t buy them. But how about you leave the rest of us alone.
  
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- sideout1961
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:19pm
  We don’t have to give it back, Mexico is taking it back one Illegal at a time.
  
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- TheEDGE
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Offensive. Defensive. All semantics at this point. Apparently, God given rights are something that the hired help doesn’t always comprehend too well. Revisit the second amendment before you further embarrass yourself, sir.
  
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- NewCreationDave
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:29pm
  We already did – but we agreed to keep paying the bills!
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:54pm
  Bones,
  The best defense is a good offense. When defending yourself from an attack a gun is a good offensive weapon. Defense can only can only score points in football. If you only defend and never offend then the offender has no reason to stop. I mean you’re not attacking so they can chop away until your defense crumbles.
  
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- BadDog-NoBiscuit
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:24pm
  @Dr Vel: While I am not supportive of what all the Liberal/Progressive/Environmental/Gay degenerates do out here, I am sure you have your share in your own back yard – you need to quit armchair quarterbacking California and take care of your own back yard. There a lot of good folks out here and we have our hands full fighting our own battles and don’t care to listen to all of hateful rhetoric people(?) like you are constantly spewing…
  
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- Maji
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:26pm
  I don’t know about this guy but I read
  “Send in the meteors” reply and believe he,she it??
  Is STONED!!
  
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- BadDog-NoBiscuit
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:39pm
  @SNUFY, JUSTATHINKIN: You can be sure I don’t agree with the stupid comments this Sherrif made. Please see my reply to “DR VEL…”
  
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- SON_OF_RJJINGADSDEN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:42pm
  @RX4NV
  A police officer carries his weapon on his belt because it is more convenient than having to conceal the dang thing. Seconds save lives. It is an added plus that it can keep idiots from doing something stupid.
  
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- BadDog-NoBiscuit
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:46pm
  @JSL55: I feel your pain and agree with you. Unfortunately I have deep roots here and choose not to run. I will do my best to fight the good fight and hope that one day things will turn around. There are some good folks left out here…
  
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- 1BlueMoon
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:11pm
  What? Give California “back” to Mexico? Did you ever take a History course? Yeah, that aint gonna happen….
  This police chief is a mouthpiece for the ******** in SanFran (Feinstein) who are trying to disarm Cali right now and (oh, wait for it) are capitalizing on the Dorner situation over the past week…. Isn’t that how the progressives “roll”….
  The chief has had the **** scared out of him and is coming down from an adrenalin rush of fight or flight with a rogue ex cop terrorizing the state of CA police force… Sorry, chief, as much as the rest of the states may want to demonize us because of the stupidity you and your kind want to portray us as, Cali just lets it roll off our backs -yeah, California Dream’n in the warm California Sun…. Bring It!
  
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