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A women fires a handgun at the ‘Get Some Guns & Ammo’ shooting range on January 15, 2013 in Salt Lake City, Utah. (Credit: Getty Images)
Dr. Suzanna Hupp became a case study in gun control after testifying in front of Congress as a survivor of the 1991 “Luby” massacre in Texas where both of her parents were killed. On Monday, more than a decade later, she spoke once more on the issue, examining it through the lens of the debate currently gripping the nation.
During her first appearance, Hupp explained how a friend had given her a gun when she was 21 and, though she doesn’t like guns or hunting, she agreed to get some training and carry it in her purse.
Not long after, a man crashed his car into a restaurant where she was eating with her family and started shooting people.
“It took me a good 45 seconds to realize that this man wasn’t there to commit a robbery,” she said. “He was there to simply shoot as many people as he possibly could.”
“When I finally realized what was occurring, I thought, ‘I got him,” she said, snapping her hand. “And I reached for my purse. He was maybe 12 feet away…But then I realized a couple of months earlier, I had made the stupidest decision of my life. I took my gun out of my purse and left it in my car, because as you well know in the state of Texas, it’s sometimes a felony offense to carry a gun in your purse.”
She proceeded to describe how her father was shot trying to rush the man, and how she tried to escape with her mother. When she turned around, she saw that her mother had run back to be with her father in his final moments, and was soon shot as well.
Here is video of her original testimony, which is well worth the watch:
In the intervening years, Hupp has become a staunch advocate for concealed-carry, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996. After six terms, in 2006, she chose not to seek re-election.
She appeared on Monday, she said, not in any professional capacity, but simply as a citizen.
Hupp began by noting how uncomfortable she felt when victims of gun violence were asked to stand at the beginning of the hearing.
“Honestly, I don’t view myself as a victim of gun violence,” she said simply. “I view myself as a victim of a maniac who happened to use a gun as a tool, and I view myself as a victim of the legislators at the time who left me defenseless.”
She re-told the gripping story with new details, before explaining one of the reasons why help was so slow in coming:
“The police officers, several of them, were patients of mine. Several days later, they filled in the gaps. They said they were actually one building away at a conference, and in an odd twist of gun control fate, the hotel where they were having their conference, the manager there didn’t want them to be wearing their guns and potentially offending any of her clients or customers…So precious minutes were lost as they retrieved their guns from their locked cars.
“They said that when they got over there…they didn’t know who the gunman was. There were bodies everywhere. But they [saw] a woman out in the aisle on her knees, cradling a mortally wounded man. They said they watched as some thirty-something-year-old man walked up to her. They said she looked up at him, he put a gun to her head, she looked down at her husband, and he pulled the trigger. That’s how they knew who the gunman was.
“They said all they had to do was fire a shot into the ceiling, and the man immediately rabbited into a back bathroom alcove area…
“23 people were killed that day, including my parents.” [Emphasis added]
Hupp once again compared the killer to a “rabid dog,” which she said you take behind a barn and kill, but certainly don’t hold wholly accountable for its condition.
“But I’ve got to tell you, I was mad as heck at my legislators, because I honestly believe they legislated me out of the right to protect myself and my family,” she concluded. “And I would much rather be sitting in jail right now with a felony offense on my head, and have my parents alive to know their grandchildren.”
Watch the gripping testimony via C-SPAN, below:
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dodgedart1966
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:24amShe’s the only one I’ve heard say to legislators what the 2nd ammendment is for.
Hunting? NO
Protection from gangs? NO
Protection from psychos? NO
It was intended for our protection from GANGS OF PSYCHO LEGISLATORS.
I would say they are running rampant in DC and most state capitols right now.
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IndyGuy
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:35amVery well put…
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jman-6
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:58amKudos on the post may I add this simple quip…The 2nd Amendment is the insurance citizens use just in case the politicians violate the other 9! GOD SPEED my fellow Patriot!
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obamainpp
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:02amWhen would you like to run for office? I would gladly vote for you (if only I was legally able to join those above the age of 18 at the boothes.)
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AvengerK
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:39amWhat? No obligatory “you gun nuts” post from troll ENCINOM/MONICNE/KREGNEVA/MOSTINERESTING TROLL/SLEAZY HIPPO/WANGO/YOURSENSEI/ad nauseum? Clearly the troll is still waiting for it’s orders from Media Matters. Can’t make a move without them.
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Trigus
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:23pmAnyone who is a victim from a shooting where the current legislation does not allow that person the right to protect themselves from great bodily harm or death. Should file seperate civil suits against each and every elected official that voted to infringe on citizen’s rights.
The Supreme Court ruled that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. (2005)
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jakartaman
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:32pmIts to overthrow a over reaching tyrannical government – and we are very very close to that Now!
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Winedude
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:35pm@avengerk…I won’t call anyone a “gun nut” but when you think owning a GUN is more of a RIGHT than being cared for when you are SICK you really need to re-examine your priorities!
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armyofnibiru
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:36pmsounds like 45 seconds into this massacre,the legislators were responsible for pulling the trigger.
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BhamLyan
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:54pm@winedude
Medical care is a service that another person performs for you.
You do not have a right to make anyone else serve your needs.
This is the basic divide between people who want freedom and people who want entitlements.
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nonwinger
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:05pm@winedude I didn’t see anyone make the claim that their right to own a gun was greater than their right to being cared for when they’re sick, however I will make that claim. The federal government’s mandates/limitations are outlined in the Constitution. The Constitution specifically prohibits the federal government from infringing on the right of U.S. Citizens to bear (carry/own) arms. Nowhere does it guarantee a U.S. Citizen the right to be cared for when they are sick. Caring for someone when they are sick is the right thing to do, but at this point it is not a legal right.
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banjarmon
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:10pmThis is one of the Florida senators that is for gun-control. Call him, send E-mails or letters to help me change his mind or have him removed from office!!
Dear Mr. banjarmon
Thank you for contacting me about policy proposals that seek to reduce gun violence in the wake of the tragedy in Newtown.
I am a hunter and have always owned guns, and I support the Second Amendment.
But assault weapons such as AK 47s are intended for killing, not hunting.
Solutions for reducing gun violence must address many areas, from protecting law enforcement and keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals, to school safety, access to mental health services, and confronting a culture that sometimes glorifies violence.
I support reinstating the assault weapons ban and restoring the 10-round limit for ammunition magazines. And, I support universal background checks so that we can know if person buying a weapon has a criminal record.
I appreciate hearing your views on this very important issue, and I will keep them in mind. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Sincerely,
Bill Nelson
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Margyt
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:31pmWine, healthcare vs guns is a straw man. We are calling this out. Make a coherent argument and I, for one, will listen. Because you deflect and obfuscate, your credibility is gone.
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Silvertruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:32pmYou’re missing ‘Winedude’s’ point. He THINKS it should be a right, not the reality of the constitution or law as it currently exists. This is a tenant point of the high level thoughtline of Communism, Marxism or Socialism. However, that same thoughtline is unattainable with human nature in its current state. If mankind was perfectly altruistic, ANY Government system would work.
Mankind is not perfect in anything, therefore, all the high level thinking and dreamy songs like “Imagine” are meaningless pipe-dreams. The issue is that people think they are real and become delusional in ideological persuit of them. This exists on the far right as well.
So, yes “Winedude” it would be nice if healthcare provided for every procedure anyone needed for free, but in order to accomplish that, you have to point a gun to the head of every citizen and say “Pay me more taxes, I get all your money, it’s for your own good… or I throw you in jail and destroy your life”. That is the power of government leveraged for what seems like a good cause but actually is very evil.
That is why the Second Amendment exists. It let’s the people point the gun back at the government and say “Go ahead, make me pay.” (Hopefully Clint will forgive me for the Dirty Harry rip-off)
Being elected is a responsibility to represent the will of the people, but also to protect the rights of all of them. Healthcare is not a right for a very valid reason.
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naughtycal
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:36pmTrigus, Anyone whose a victim of a crime at the hand sof an illegal alien should file law suits as well….
There are Congressional laws that congressman on both sides of the aisles have refused to enforce.
There are rape victim,murder victyim,robbery victims,and victims of property damage all at the hands of illegal aliens. SOUNDS LIKE A CLASS ACTION MEGA LAWSUIT.
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Leader1776
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:40pm@BhamLyan
One of the most insightful comments EVER on this board. Hopefully, you won’t mind if I quote you.
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:47pm@ banjarmon
You should send your representative a response that agrees with him that ‘assault weapons” are for exactly that; eliminating oppressive legislators.
That is EXACTLY why it was installed in the Constitution in the first place, and THAT is why the out-of-control legislators are trying to get rid of it – they are scared s**tless, and rightfully so.
When the legislators will truly be scared is when they realize that NO legislation can FORCE morally responsible gun owners to comply with immoral legislation.
….the clock is ticking, Washington. Keep fabricating your own rope!
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Silvertruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:47pm@Banjarmon
He’s not my Congressman or Senator, he would ignore anything I sent him.
His argument is deeply flawed even in his own response. He claims to support the Second Amendment but fails to understand it because he thinks it’s about hunting. Odds are he KNOWS what it is about but is using the hunting misconcpetion as a straw-man to move his rationality away from the real facts. It lets him claim what he does in the letter about high-capacity magazines and scary AK-47′s. This is standard intellectua dishonesty practiced by ideologically driven people that are NOT doing their job as elected officials and only protecting their own position and power.
Nearly every elected offical is a fraud. They will not risk their careers to do the right thing, like Ted Cruz did when questioning an appointee, they will do the ‘comfortable thing’ like John McCain did when questioning the same appointee.
You will never be able to convert the Bill Nelson’s of the world, he’s a politician and will blow with the wind. You need to elect people that will take risks and stand up for the common rights of everyone, not just those whom they happen to agree with ideologically.
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CONSERVATIVELADY
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:51pm@winedud As a person who manages a medical office I can tell you we have never denied anyone the right to health care regardless of ability to pay. As it stands those without health care receive discounts on their medical bills and those who have insurance are required to pay their copay/coinsurance on top off their premiums each month.
In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA). It Section 1867 of the Social Security Act imposes specific obligations for Medicare-participating hospitals that offer emergency services to provide care regardless of ability to pay.
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michaelharfert
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 1:52pm@WINEDUDE, who said that the government is supposed to take care of everyone? According to the way I believe, YOU/WE are to take care of the widows and the orphans. NOT the government! According to the Constitution, there are a very few things that the Federal government is responsible for. And taking care of the old and widows and orphans, ain’t one of them! DO it with your own money, not mine! I have heard it recently that you know times are tough when the Democrat’s and RINO’s out there have there hands in their own pockets not mine!
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Trigus
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:12pm@Banjarmon
About 90% never right their representatives. I have been using facts. Force you gun control elected official to use facts to support him/she wanting to ban “assault weapons” there is none.
Use the FBI Uniform Crimes Report – show them that violent crime in the US is down 15.2% from 2002-2011, and 15.7 % fro 2007-2011, and that in 2011 less then 3% of murders committed involved a rifle -(bolt, lever, semi.) Go to The Home Office provide Statistics from UK and Whales on crimes commited with Firearms (illegal) and the violent crime rate. Then list chicago’s gunlaws – that ban assault weapons and hi cap magazines and ask him why chicago has one of the highes murder rates in the country invovling a firearm.
Then you toss this to him: Florida State Constitution – Article 1. Declaration of Rights – Section 8 Right to Bear Arms.
SECTION 8. Right to bear arms.—(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.
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BhamLyan
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:14pm@Leader1776
Thank you, and feel free to spread the truth to anyone else pushing “positive liberties” like Ruth Bader Ginsburg did in Egypt.
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S-O-B-E-R
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:29pmLay off the wine, dude. Guaranteed you will find yourself less in need of healthcare when you stop sucking on the bottle and start taking care of yourself.
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1389AD
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:30pmINDEED!
Mike Huckabee interviews firearms expert Larry Correia
Larry Correia refutes the gun controllers, once and for all
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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gyro
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 3:28pmbingo
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westtitus
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 4:00pmTake a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment- The right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted hunting was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and target shooting was an unheard of concept, musket balls were a precious commodity in the wilds of early America, and were certainly not wasted target shooting. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defense purposes should such tyranny rise in the United States.
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AvengerK
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 4:47pmYou know WHINEDUDE…I was going to answer your tediously liberal appeal to emotion myself but posters like “NOWINGER” and “SILVERTRUTH” answered your heartstring pulling so well that it’s not necessary for me to add to their points.
No “right” takes precedence over another “right” outlined in the constitution of this nation WHINEDUDE.
If we start playing the “this right is more important than that right” game with juveniles like you we’ll be heading down a very slippery slope. I mean..just look at what Obama tried to pull with the individual mandate and his twisting and contorting of the commerce clause. Or better yet…his latest gambit whereby he can summarily execute a US citizen without a trial if he’s deemed a terrorist on even the flimsiest evidence. So let me get this straight…he wants to give foreign nationals civilian trials for their PROVEN terrorist activities thus giving them rights enjoyed by US citizens. He won’t “torture” them to get vital information from them. But he will kill you and me as American citizens if he has the slightest inkling we’re terrorists.
Can you tell me how that comes to be WHINEDUDE? Are foreign national’s rights greater then mine or yours as US citizens to Barack Obama? See the can of worms your little emotional outburst can open champ?
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Scoutmapper
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:10pmVery Powerful and moving testimony.
Was that B%*$H Feinstein not even paying attention? WTH? She was shuffling papers and putting them away. Very rude and telling.
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Eternal
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:49pmBetter if the legislators all died
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Grey Eagle
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:59pmThe Democrats were in control of the Governor and Legislature at that time. I do NOT think they have changed their spots, only gotten worse with their gun control measures.
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chalkdust
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:58pmWiney
Healthcare is a responsibility. Gun ownership is a right guaranteed by the bill of rights. You have made what’s known as a false argument.
But I refer you to BhamLyan’s post as the best argument.
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REBELWITHACAUSE
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:38pmI TOTALLY agree… so… why do people keep voting these bastards into office?
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EZrider12
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:32pm@winedude,
I will consider it to be the saddest day in American history to find out that the citizens of the nanny states of America need to have the government tell them that they can take care of the sick and elderly…….Oh wait……. They are already doing that!
Go wine somewhere else winedude. I feel sorry for you. You just don’t get it, do you??!!
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:56pmI could not have said it better; well done.
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Maggie in Indiana
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:18pmummm I firmly believe it was meant to guard our freedom from our enemies foreign or domestic.
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bryan1969
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:13pmagreed being a california native im seeing them do the same thing they do little to stop crime and do everything to make us “victims” they should all be ashamed of themselves and run right out of office
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TheMightyZeus
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:52pm@WINEDUDE Healthcare is a right to the extent that you shouldn’t be denied the ability to get it. That does not mean that it should be provided by my tax money. Similarly, I demand that my right to own guns not be infringed, not that the government buys them for me.
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yiska8
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:40pmThis lady has been speaking out since 1991. I was in high school when Killeen’s Luby Cafeteria Massacre happened. She lost both her parents with her pistol sitting in her car. I remember her anger and always remembered what happened because we ate at Luby’s all the time with our grandparents.This story is well known here in South Texas.This woman has been doing her part to make sure citizens in Texas have a right to protect themselves. She must be find it truly stupid and self-destructive to watch American citizens turn weapons and rights to defend themselves because the government or law enforcement offers them a gift card in return. Bless her.
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SwampFoxHiggy
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:24amHonestly, I’m done with debating gun control. No matter what facts are put on the table to refute the effectiveness of ‘gun control’, and their are tons mind you, the Lefties simply won’t change their tune. My cup runneth over. If these blowhards really have the marbles, MOLON LABE.
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00100111
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:57amThey don’t care that gun control doesn’t work. They know it doesn’t work. They just want you disarmed. Why? Because of what they want to do to you, what they want the govt to do to you, to force you into requires you to be disarmed.
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SwampFoxHiggy
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:12amYou are exactly right, my friend. For that very same reason, I feel we have reached an impasse. They aren’t going to back down, and well, let’s face it, neither are we.
MOLON LABE
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bonesiii
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:26pmDon’t stop. That’s exactly what the really wicked manipulators among the libs want you to do. You don’t have to be enslaved to your message, but be open to speaking if you find an opportunity and have the time. :)
I have faith that there are “quiet liberals” who are considering what we say and their minds are changing. Don’t give up on them just because the loudmouths are stubborn. We’re not really here to convince the trolls; we’re here to convince the honest people who were duped into liberalism and are curious what the other side really believes. :) The trolls can even help focus the discussion for that purpose, though that is sadly not their intent of course. They serve as somewhat useful examples of how nuts the poison of liberalism can make you if you swallow it.
Plus, many of them are really just populists. They vehemently argue for whatever they think is most politically advantageous because they think that’s what they have to do to be accepted. They don’t really believe what they’re saying. If we do keep the faith and convince the overwhelming majority that we’re right, many of them will join our side (whether that is good is debatable, lol — I don’t want mindless support any more than mindless opposition, but maybe after while their brains would switch on by osmosis from being around thinking people :P).
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dodgedart1966
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:17amI just bought a Ruger SR9, right after Colorado.
It’s a blast, but I worry it may soon be illegal. 17 shot mag and all.
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dodgedart1966
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:27amI can tag a beer can at 100ft, and I’m getting better.
Yeeehah
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poorrichard09
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:29amIt’s only illegal is you get caught. ;-)
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Pecos1
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:22amTry tagging it at 100 yds
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Bruce4671
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:03amYeah tag a beer can at 100yds with a pistol sez PECOS1. Sure. For that you may want to try a long gun with a scope and a steady platform. But think about how the police train for “urban” takedowns as you see it in the movies. Remember? They have a closed course where targets pop up in the 10 to 25 ft range that present various persona. From armed criminals to little kids holding fluffy bunnies. Who do you shoot? But yeah, take a shot at the 300 ft range or 17 for that matter. HAVE some FUN.
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mcsledge
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:09pmIf you need to take a 100 yard shot with a pistol, you certainly aren’t defending yourself. But kudos to the accuracy.
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RANGER1965
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:10amThis might get a lil’ blurb on Fox, maybe some talk radio, and Drudge. Therefore this event, and the subsequent testimony, never happened.
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techengineer11
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:30amIn essence the entirety of the problem which America faces today.
This is what I scream most about but gets so little traction.
It’s all about the control of the propaganda and the messaging.
Of course when you consider who controls it then you begin to understand why we can’t get any traction on the issue. and why you must be a hater right winger or anti something for only bringing it up.
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braddock66
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 2:00pmThe biggest threat is the media. If we cannot expose whats going on then only a minority will we ever be.OBOZO says whatever he wants and no one challenges it.
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KenshinDragon
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:09amMay God bless and keep her as she continues to defend our 2nd Amendment Rights!!!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:06amWell folks it’s been 237 years since the second amendment was created and it’s holding on by a thread.
Under constant assault for well over a century by progs and statists who know better than our founders as to what our rights are. They’ve been chipping away at the second amendment and their ultimate goal is a total ban. It’s the same with healthcare,Teddy Roosevelt thought we had a right to healthcare and he started the ball rolling and BHO is 9/10 there with single payer coming right up. What I’m saying is they’re patient,they know they can’t ban or confiscate firearms so they’ll use laws and regulations to slowly strangle it and kill it off. If we allow them to do it they gladly will all the while arming themselves to the teeth. Government didn’t give us any rights so they can’t take them away unless we allow them,so be vocal to your congressmen and senators and put them in their place. Contrary to popular belief they are our servants and it’s time they know their place.
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armyofnibiru
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:29pmAH MEN,.
Hirohito read the constitution,and yamamoto read the constitution.thats why they had no plans to invade the west coast.they were afraid of the people!!!
the same fear lies in this regime.so they must infringe on our rights.
Call for the constitutional amendment process and try to give US the 28th amendment to overide the 2cnd amendment!?then I’ll hand over my tools.?if not then one piece at a time.
THE govenors will stop the feds,because their close to the people.well,enough are.
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gyro
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 3:29pmwell writen
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STEEEEVE53
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:04amThe only logical exception to legal conceal carry might be bars, since alcohol’s impairment of judgment is a widely accepted fact.
As far as police are concerned, there should never be a time when a police officer who is on duty goes anywhere unarmed.
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angeleyes63
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:18amWelcome to the lawyered up pscychotic lefty states of amerika.
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00100111
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:09amBars…only if you’re drinking. Alcohol isn’t exactly a contact drunk type thing. I can be in an establishment that serves alcohol and not drink.
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christhefanatic
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:01amMy neighbors have firearms. Doesn’t bother me…My neighbors have never done anything to suggest to me that they are not rational. I don’t see them as a threat. I certainly don’t intend to do anything to my neighbors that might require them to defend themselves against me. On the other hand, if I believed them to be dangerous, or if I intended to do some harm to them…guns might be a sticky issue.
This government doesn’t want us to have guns because…they don’t trust us…and because they intend to do harm to us. They have already established that they are the enemy and that they consider us to be the the enemy.
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pragmaticpatriot
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:08pmwell put, they are the enemy.
One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers(government) and the disarming of the bourgeoisie (We The People).
One man with a gun can control 100 without one.
A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.
The goal of socialism is communism.
– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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samurai2112
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:57amDoesn’t fit the narrative. Strike from the record. Next witness.
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armyofnibiru
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:34pmso true, so sad
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bharris0
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:56amIt is time citizens started ignoring gun control of every type. The words “shall not be infringed”, nullifies every piece of gun control in existence. Not some of it, ALL OF IT.
There is NO gun control that doesn’t infringe our our God given rights to protect ourselves, from any criminal, even those who claim authority to do so.
Those that pass such laws are usually protected by armed guards at OUR expense.
The courts have already ruled that protecting individuals is not the governments job or desire for that matter. The authorities are only charged with protecting society as a whole, which leave our individual protection up to us and no one else.
It would seem that liberals are too stupid to understand such a basic concept.
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objectivetruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:35amI’m in total agreement with you.If we give an inch they take fifty miles.It started out being only very violent felons that used a gun in the commision of the crime.Its so far expanded to include any offense they deem justifiable.Enough is enough.I’ll take true freedom over security any day.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:26amI agree 100%. In fact, I think all gun laws, including the law severely limiting the ability to procure FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons (i.e., TRUE assault weapons) that was established back in the 1930′s.
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Max Power 1
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 3:31pm@objectivetruth. Right you are. In Pennsylvania for example where I used to live, it used to be you could only be denied for a violent felony conviction. Now, you will be denied for anything that has the possibility of a 1 year sentence, and there is no time limit. They go back to the day you were born. There is no consideration for degree, they go by the highest level. If you are say 50 years old with a clean record but you stole a pack of gum when you were 10, that’s “theft” & you will be denied. Folks have been denied for unpaid parking tickets, DUI, and many other minor “offenses”. The NRA caved on this in order to get rid of the waiting period. Thanks NRA, you worthless cavers.
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Carp_resident
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 11:08amBharriso, I came to the same conclusion over twenty years ago. After filing a report with a Sgt. at the police station in the town I work in he told me I would be a perfect candidate for a CCW permit and should apply for one. The report was for being shot by some gang bangers with a shotgun while at work one night a week before. My work involves being out on the streets and not in an office. The problem I faced was I live in the next county over from where I work. The sheriff in my county does not believe that law abiding citizens should carry firearms for any reason and does not issue permits but to a few elites, i.e.. I wasn’t going to get one from him. So I had to make a decision to be tried by twelve or carried by six. The answer wasn’t hard for me to make and was based on your statement above, (shall not be infringed). I have a right to protect myself and bear arms period and have done so for more than twenty years now. It has saved me from great bodily harm on several occasions since, without even having to take it out of my holster. Just showing that I was armed was enough to convince them I was not to be accosted and they quickly went the other way. That’s fine with me as the last thing I wish to do is shoot someone. Like Dr. Hupp said I will not make that stupid mistake no matter what the consequences. The second amendment is my permit no matter what unconstitutional law is passed by anyone. I can count on one hand how many people know that I carry and I prefer th
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KalanVA
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:53amTerm Limits for Congess! They need to live in the real world without security guards.
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term limits for congress
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:06amYep. I am sure that Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Pelosi, Reid, etc were moved by her testimony…. not.
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:05amAfter Four, maybe Eight, Must Vacate, and that goes for all three branches (E., L., and J)!
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:34amI’ve been advocating term limits for years.
I think ALL elected positions should be 3 years (judges, Congress, presidents, etc.) and we should vote every single year (turning over roughly one-third of those folks every year).
There are about 314 million people in America. There is no reason in hell we need someone to serve more than once. These fossils that sit in Congress for decades are a big problem, so are professional lawyers. And, to take it further, all servants having completed their term will be banned for life from Washington D.C. and having contact with any active servants or their proxies. The penalty for breaking this law will be life in prison.
Also, I’d like to see each new Congress randomly assign all duties (use a bingo ball type system to assign committees). Seniority should mean nothing. One’s representative should not hold substantial power over others’–the people are equal, so should be their representation.
While we’re at it, let’s go ahead and drug test (oh, I did it now!) all federal judges, congresspeople and presidents. A Private in the Army scrubbing toilets gets drug tested. Why in the world do we allow these people–our servants–to hold positions of such authority, access and responsibility without drug tests? BIG pet peeve of mine.
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SamIamTwo
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:46amYou think the liberals will ever figure it out? It takes a 2×4 to their heads several times before they go, oh I have a way, I have the original ideal, I know they way…they simply feel, yeah feel, like they are the only ones who can do things right…they are mental midgets, and they are in control.
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happ77
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:57amThe libs don’t want to figure it out. Testimonies like hers
just fall on deaf ears. Their agenda calls for banning guns
and come hell or high water thats the goal.
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Spitfire1938
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:07amPlease… Stop! Think about what you want to say… read what you have written…. correct your mistakes in spelling, syntax and clearness of thought… then post your comment. Otherwise we may mistake ‘you’ for a mental midget. That said… I agree with you.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:17amYou’re right-mama always said it took a two by four to get a fool’s attention!
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olderjarhead
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:05amDon’t think for a minute that liberals don’t have it figured out. They know what the truth is. They use the gun issue purely for political gain, and control. They know that this issue really fires up a certain segment of society, and if they can stick their thumb in your eye, so be it. That’s what this Country has been reduced to. Revenge, and vengence.
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armyofnibiru
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:45pma wise man once said.its easyer to get a question answered with a two by four, then asking politely.
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RaydocX
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:41amHappy Valentine’s, Monk, et al!
I appreciate all posting on the Blaze in a serious anner… Even some f the trolls unintentionally amuse now ad then.
And as ever nice to see survivors continue to work to pierce the arrogant emotional armor too any politicians wear where guns are concerned… I hear there are even legislators regretting the rammed through New York law… I suspect clinging to guns and religion will be the Left attitude that sinks them come mid-terms, so long as the MSM keeps hyping the boogeyman of gun violence
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oxycontinxx
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:36amdr hupp obeyed the law……and it cost her the lives of her parents.
liberals………………when it comes to gun laws/control………..people should be able to defend themselves and their loved ones.
wherever, whenever, however………..
this dumb…..stand like a lamb waiting on the slaughter mentality……that libs have is beyond ridiculous.
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msjoe43
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 4:22pmThe Democrat Liberals are ELITISTS…. ELITISTS ….ELITISTS!
They have superior attitude complex. No amount of explaining to get them to change their minds on their pursuit of feel good legislation: gun control and the assasult weapons ban …
“We, the Democrat Liberals Elitists who bow down and kiss Obama’s feet are here to inform you (the tax paying law abiding citizens) …. we do not care for your whining (def: complain peevishly: to complain in an unreasonable, repeated, or irritating way) to keeping your asault weapons …. blah blah blah or protecting oneself and family. We, the Democrat Liberals Elitists …. care more about the criminals rights. We do not care you the law abiding citizens rights…. that’s the Democrat Liberals Elitists secret.
We, Democrat Liberals Elitists politicians are the slavey owners of the low income, illegals, blah blah blah of the colored people … black, brown, blah blah blah…
We keep these colored people down with entitlements: FOOD STAMPS, GOVERNMENT HOUSING, blah blah blah… so we get voted back into office…. We are career Democrat Liberals Elitists politicians….we are exempt from the laws we pass (Elistist politicians above the law: hidden in closet: assault weapons: AR-15, AK-47 etc, Semi-automatic shotguns,rifles, hanguns) we pass.
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LarryL2
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:36amYou can one-off stories all day.The simple fact is that gun control works.Not perfect but it works.And stop selling the garbage that Obama is trying to take ALL your guns.Because he isn’t.He’s trying to limit WHAT you can buy.All the evidence proves it out.The US is the ONLY developed country without weapons bans.
You all act like your society is under constant and perpetual threat.It isn’t.There are no terrorists at your door. Your government is NOT coming to get you.Crime happens but not as much as you and the media make it out to be.Stop acting scared of everything.The media plays up all the craziness so it seems like anarchy but let’s face it, unless you live in slums where crime is significantly higher, you really are not under this level of threat.This is supposed to be a civilized society. And yes, there are bad people around. But they aren’t breaking into all your houses every day.They aren’t shooting up the local Denny’s every Saturday.You are all convinced that the world is ready to take you down. It isn’t.
US Deaths in Afghanistan in 2012: 2000 – a war zone
USA: 9 guns deaths per 100K citizens
Canada: < 1 gun death per 100K citizens
Same tv shows, same movies, same games.Why?Because we have those limits in place.Canadians own rifles and hand guns.But we don't act like something is going to happen every two seconds.We don't live in fear of what is most unlikely.And we don't feel the need to be armed to the teeth against what 'might' happen.
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13th Imam
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:45amChicago Detroit, New York
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:51amYeah gun control works,it’s very good at disarming the law abiding citizen and does nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.Cities like Chicago and Washington D.C have total gun bans yet a high murder rate so gun control is very effective in those and other cities as well huh? You can tout all the irrelevant stats you want it doesn’t matter because if the constitution was followed like it should be we would have NO gun laws because every ‘gun law’ created since the second amendment is unconstitutional. Opinion polls,stats none of them are relevant because congress doesn’t have the authority to create any law regarding the sale and use of firearms and the key words in the second amendment are,shall not be infringed.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:53amLARRYL2, Well, its so easy to see that Mark Twain was right. There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Such a well written diatribe and its still so easy to see so much considering the stats that you simply left out. Those other countries with high death comparisons just don’t fit your agenda, do they? Then I read your profile page, and yep, definite agenda. Another funny thing is how so many of these mass murderers in this country have been registered Democrats, and the usual left wing loon liberal. Its so much easier for that mindset to rationalize their actions. One of the few such killers is the one this story is about, that I have not yet found his political leanings. George Hennard may have been apolitical, but I still doubt it.
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mikem1969
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:53amLarry Larry quite contrary, how does you mind blow. Take a look at Thugcago, NY city, and commiefornia. You want models for what happens with gun control, there ya go, some of the worst gun crimes in the country. No, gun control does not work. Why, because the morons don’t enforce the existing ones, and they have a revolving door to prisons that well treat thugs to a nice hotel room with tv, internet, and 3 squares a day. Get over your ignorance. And yes they are trying to take our guns, they want to get universal background checks which in turn leads to universal registration, which in turn historically speaking LEADS TO UNIVERSAL GUN CONFISCATION AND THE ONSET OF TYRANY.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it (demoncrats).
RESIST TYRANY LOUDLY.
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patriotsofworkingamerica
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:02amWho are you referring to when you say “your “society? We have a Constional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Does this woman look happy? How about her parents? Do they have a right to life WITHOUT INTRUSION FROM AN OVERBEARING GOVERNMENT? I see this Marxist pushing UNCONSTITUTIONAL agendas. He is systematically eliminating all forms of checks and balances.
I will step on you here and voice my opinion. They will not get the ban on ALL guns they are seeking. What they will get is a National registry and very detailed database of every gun, gun owner and gun location. It will do nothing for the safety of our society but it will protect the GOVERNMENT when the crisis is fully developed. And believe me you lib clown it is almost fully developed.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jpNSrW6PAeI
Check out this little goodie. No problems in this once great industrial city.
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dnewton
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:03amCows at the slaughter house don’t exactly feel the need to defend themselves either.
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Derek01
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:10amBS ! I have a fire extinguisher, and hope I’ll never need it. I have car insurance and hope I’ll never need it too. Preparation doesn’t guarantee success but no preparation guarantees failure. Hope you never have a problem with criminals but you have increased your odds of being a victim. But then again youmay like being a victim
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Strider26
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:17amYour comment readily demonstrates your typical liberal mindset of not being bothered by facts and an innate willingness to lie to prove you’re “right”. If you are canadian….congratulations. Stay there and keep your idiot opinions there as well.
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BrutalTruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:18am“You all act like your society is under constant and perpetual threat.It isn’t.There are no terrorists at your door. Your government is NOT coming to get you.Crime happens but not as much as you and the media make it out to be.”
Until it is.
When you make comments like this, your talking about probabilities, not possibilities. What statistical probability would it have to be before you deem it necessary to be able to protect yourself? That makes you a moron.
You take a position against others to be able to defend themselves as they see fit. A position that puts others at the mercy (which isn’t there) of criminals. That makes you a dangerous moron.
You don’t understand that your existence in this world brings responsibilities. You have the right to not defend yourself. However, you abdicate your responsibility to help protect those around you. You try to convince others that you care about them, when your actions say otherwise. That makes you a pathetic loser moron.
Seriously, what is your worth on this earth amongst others?
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NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:20amAh yes Larry the parrot repeats the “nobody is trying to take your guns” condescending meme that’s all over the Regressive media.
You sir, are a special kind of stupid.
This way to the showers, sheeple! Puhleeze.
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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:22amHow many crimes are prevented by the lawful ownership and use of firearms? You don’t know, Larry, and don’t want to know.
Do you know the statistics of gun deaths from “assault” weapons vs knives, hands and blunt objects? Same again, don’t know, don’t want to know. You want the facts to fit the narrative and they just don’t so you keep repeating useless comparisons and bogus statistics.
Gun control only controls legal gun owners, you know Larry, the ones who DON’T commit gun crimes. Why does that fact upset you to the point that you’re happy to publicly display your ignorance and bias? Why does my 40 years of legal gun ownership cause you to become unhinged to the point that you support my de facto disarmament? And that’s really what it is, maybe muskets and muzzle loading pistols will be unthreatening enough for us to own if you and your cohorts prevail.
Just be honest about it, the US Constitution grants the right for us to be armed and it scares you and your liberal friends because we may just do something crazy like defend ourselves without help from the state or even worse, defend ourselves from the state.
I think the real issue is that you and your fellow Libs really just believe that letting us own and carry guns is like arming a band of apes who may do anything at any time without the mental ability to understand and control our un-evolved urges. You’re the superior beings who know what’s best for the rest of us and we should just ackn
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NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:23amExactly Strider.
Psst! Larry! News flash! We’ve already figured out your progressively regressive tactics. Won’t work on us!
Buh bye.
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oxycontinxx
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:25am“And we don’t feel the need to be armed to the teeth against what ‘might’ happen.”
then why does law enforcement go armed to the teeth?? duhhhhhhhh !!!
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:36amLarry
Dr. Hupp’s father charged the gunman. He was unarmed. He died.
Just think if that brave would have had a gun. How many lives would have been saved?
How many lives could have Dr. Hupp saved if she had disobeyed the law and carried her gun in her purse?
Has your life ever been threatened by someone with a gun? If you had been one of the patrons at that restaurant would you have prayed that some other patron had a gun? What would you have done? I bet you wouldn’t be taking about the gun death per thousands.
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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:43am(Character counter malfunction) …acknowledge that fact and let you run things for us.
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objectivetruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:48amFolks Larry is a plant.Either that or just plain flat out stupid.Larry dear the terrorists are at our doorsteps and have been for decades.You either don’t come from a military family haven’t been a target or have been hiding uder a rock for the last 12 years.I”ll be nice an play along that you are of the last category.How may I ask you can you be so unread and ignorant?Its well known they are here.
Criminals?Hum with the rip roaring economy/sarcasism and laughter/ you don’t think its gone up do you?
Bye the way I don’t want the government telling me what I can’t buy or what I must buy simply because they said so.This isn’t grade school and they aren’t our parents.By the way that attitude only works on small children it doesn’t work on teenagers.You need to give them good concrete reasons as to why it needs to be your way.[It actually works better to do the same with small children as well']
Maybe you want to play along with the government being the parent I don’t.I realize that we the citizens are the parents and the reps more like our wayward children.Something that needs to be reigned in before they do irreparable damage.If they haven’t already.
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mikem1969
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:58am@patriotsofworkingamerica
I will never register a single gun. A National gun registry will lead to gun confiscation, history has proven this. I will not comply.
Resist Tyranny Loudly.
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textiger
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:08amDont try to sell your “crap” to someone who’s home has been rob of all things valuable…3 times!!! Havent had that problem in awhile….bought an AR-15 and a 9 mil….live in country and target practice often…by the way the sheriff officers arrived all three times…just in time to take a report…by the way…amazingly i havent been broken into since I started target practicing…wander why…ummmmmm…beats me
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00100111
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:20amIf by “Works” you mean, it makes more victims, makes criminals bolder, and makes it easier for the govt to slaughter its citizens and enslave them…yeah, sure it works.
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orion0965
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:11amThere is 1 blaring difference sir. In the States we have a 2nd Ammendment that clearly states “shall not be infinged”. What is it about that one and only line that you pin heads do not understand. I am assuming from your little data sheet that you are from Canada? If you and your fellow Canadians think gun contol is working for you up there thats great, just do us folks in the States a favor and stfu and keep your opinion on our rights to your damn selves. We do not tell you how to live do not tell me I do not have the right under my Constitution to protect myself with any weapon I deem appropriate.
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xjeeper
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:33amSwitzerland is developed, and all homes are required to have a fully automatic (true assault)rifle, not only is crime low, but , the Nazis did not invade.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:44amLarry, you might not think that the government intends to take all of our guns; but I am not willing to take that as a truth. Feinstein herself said she would like to see total confiscation. Gun control is not just about limiting the types of guns that you can buy, it is also about limiting WHERE you can take them. Right now, we have gun free zones, but that doesn’t stop the crazies from taking their guns into those zones and using them.
You say that criminals are not breaking into your house every day…and you are right. But its that ONE time if and when an armed criminal breaks into my house that concerns me. I live in a pretty rural area, lots of farm country where I live. Yet, just in the past 9 months there has been two people found dead packed into 55 gallon drums floating around in the lake in our area. There has been a woman who was found beaten to near death and left on the beach of that same lake. There was a home invasion that occurred where four men, all armed with handguns AND rifles broke into a guy’s house….3 got away. Two weeks ago, a woman in our county was reported missing, last Sunday night, they found her….at the bottom of a well. Dead.
Last weekend, there was a group who went to a waffle house after midnight. Witnesses said that the group appeared to be angry, next thing they knew, guns were drawn and the shooting started between the group memebers….with innocent diners at risk. Gun control will not stop these from happen
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armyofnibiru
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:54pmconfutious says,he who has head in sand gets kicked in a$$ first.under islam gets head cut off first.
get a real education van jones.
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bonesiii
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 12:57pm“You all act like your society is under constant and perpetual threat.It isn’t.There are no terrorists at your door. Your government is NOT coming to get you.”
This all boils down to here — you are naive. Human nature doesn’t change. Where there is the temptation to grab power and become the things you claim don’t exist, it will happen.
If government is NOT coming to get us, that’s BECAUSE we have guns. ;)
You’re like the old story of a person who stopped taking medicine the moment they felt better — so they got sick again.
And the disease that is human nature won’t be going away as long as this world lasts.
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BellaMia7
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 4:01pmObviously gun control tyrants love their children LESS than gun-rights advocates. As parents we are willing to invest in firearms and training to protect our loved ones. People like Pierc Morgan are not.
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majasdad
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:41amThank you for offering an oasis of sanity in this desert of fear and ignorance. It’s odd isn’t it? If a terrorist were to see the comments on this site, he/she would rejoice at the fact that so many Americans live in such fear, and interpret it as proof of a job well done.
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The-Monk
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:31amHappy Valentines Day for everyone out there.
From your friend that you don’t know or appreciate very much…..
…..but might soon. LOL : )
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:43amMorning MONK, Hehehe, looking forward to that. Hope you get some real rest today.
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grimmster
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:54amBack atcha Monk!
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The-Monk
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:09amThanks guys. LOL : )
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gyro
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 3:31pmBest to you Monk
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koyettsu
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:26amThat is heartbreaking, bunch of douche bag Democrats, I am officially calling them murderers going forward.
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objectivetruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 10:08amI’m offended for douche bags everywhere.The inhumaninty man.Look a douche bag is useful, can be reused and taken care of properly, will last a life time.How the he@@ can you put one down by even uttering the name democrat, in the same sentence.Democrats aren’t useful even before election.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:23amSo once again we see the insane truth of our government, legislatures who will not allow people to defend themselves due to the liberal madness of ‘disarmed people are not dangerous people and then no more crimes will be committed.’
Madness to the core, they would prefer masses of dead people who had a chance to stop shooters to a live person having defended themselves. How many have died that did not need to due to the legislature madness?
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mikem1969
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:47amFar to many snow, far to many. My state just passes a bill allowing people to carry their concealed firearm in restaurants and even ones that serve alcohol. They are also trying to pass a constitutional carry allowing us to open carry. I really hope they get that one passed. At that point I will have my open carry on my side and my backup on my ankle.
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Spitfire1938
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:47amHey Snow! Love ya.
Please, stop thinking of these “Pretenders” as Politicians; they are not! These filth are ‘communists’ usurpers attempting to implement a Marxists/Stalinist ideological plan for America’s enslavement, and they are far beyond caring what you believe or think! They’ve gained power over time through stealth, subterfuge, outright duplicity, and bald-face lying. They deserve only our determination to destroy them and their filthy design for America’s destruction.
Stand firm, there is nothing they can do to you or the salvation of your soul. God loves you and he will embrace you “forever” with eternal LIFE for your love and devotion to him and belief in all that is Righteous and Good!
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Fonz777
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:22amYeS!!!!!
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techengineer11
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:59amI heard her shame Senator Schumer right after the incident occurred.. Boy she was hot back then eventhough it was a horrific situation.. She was so innocent and genuine.
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steveinva
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:21amI have never heard this story before… This is an amazing example of moronic policies screwing law abiding citizens out of their chance to protect themselves and about it is compounded by people (conference manager) who have been conditioned to fear any gun.
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:52amI think about this every time I am forced to disarm going into a restricted area. Criminals, crazy people, and liberals (redundant, I know) don’t pay attention to laws.
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Operator61
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 4:06amI never have or will disarm. I don’t care if it is a gun free zone. I just make sure I am well concealed. I would rather get kicked out or arrested than shot.
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ferggie
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:14amCitizens should be allowed to sue legislators for removing the ability to protect one self.
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dietrdeb
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:21amI couldn’t agree more!
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Red Meat
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:29amThis.
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objectivetruth
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:50amI agree with you.In order to do this first we must remove their immunity.Needs to happen.
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teammommy
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:13ambless her
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Magyar
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:11amHer story is told over and over again in every state AND in every country— Read some of the heart breaking stories from Australia as the consequence of confiscation!
Most of the morons in Washington don’t give a damn about our safety–their objective has ALWAYS been to disarm in order to control us.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:25amExactly.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:29amI blame our one party system filled with progs who have no clue how to govern within the bounds of the constitution,they’re statists wanting more power and control over us and making unconstitutional laws that try to micro manage our lives. I also blame us,all of us have allowed government to overstep it’s authority in all areas of our lives.
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Stab_friendly
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:09amNote to self…
Don’t rush a man with an automatic weapon, without one yourself..
There is a huge difference between being brave and being stupid…
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dietrdeb
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:20amThis is all you have….someday when someone is shooting at your loved ones I am sure they will find you with a bullet in the back. The reason that this man’s wife went back to die with him was because he was the kind of man that would die to protect the ones he loved. I am sure that your boyfriend knows that he just has to be ahead of you on they way out the door if he is to survive!
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:24amWhen your trapped and have no way out to escape a insane criminal, no firearm to stop him due to the law of insane legislatures, then you have only two choices in the end – die where you are or take a chance to take the shooter down so some may escape alive.
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oddball130
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:30amHe wasnt using an assault weapon Mr. Stab, Try Educating yourself to the facts before you type. He was using a Glock and a Ruger Pistol. And as far as charging someone, you dont know what you would do in that situation. These were whole families there just having a peaceful meal together.
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Shellback
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:37amPerhaps if more people had rushed him, there would a lot less people dead. Tables, chairs, hot food/oil could have been turned into weapons. Tragically her parents are dead. Her assessment is correct.
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dodgedart1966
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:15amthere’s also a huge difference between trying to save your life and cowering in a corner.
Guess which one I’m assuming you would do, stab?
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The Knave
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:22amBeing stupid? Maybe, maybe not. A Man thinks differently when his loved ones are in harms way. I could easily see a situation where a Man may rush an armed assailant in order to at worse, give his family time to escape. At best, there is a possibility of stopping or disarming the gunman. And of course, being a Man with all that comes with it, we’re hard wired to respond to violence with violence. The individuals on Flight 93 who rushed the hijackers weren’t armed, yet died trying to save others.
No, at first glance it does appear to be “stupid” to rush a gunman when you’re not armed. However, I can think of many worse ways to die then giving my life for the act of protecting my wife or kids.
THIS is why women shouldn’t be thrust into a combat role. Men will rush into harms way, while women will shrink from harm…and no amount of training will over-ride instinct for the most part. We Men may be stupid, but we do protect very well.
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SamIamTwo
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:28amNote to stab, be careful about complying with dumber than dirt nanny laws. The man would have killed you in a second.
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:36amAutomatic weapon? Really? Do we not know the difference by now?
And actually the line between brave and smart is rather thin most of the time.
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GeeWhiz
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 11:51amWhat is more ‘stupid’…Cowering on the ground and waiting for him to put a bullet in your head or rushing him knowing that MAYBE you might be able to live or at least others might get out?
Sorry, I’m not a man, I’m a woman. An unarmed woman. No concealed carry permit, very little experience with guns. But if I were there with my kids, eating lunch and some psycho burst in and started executing people, damn right I’d go for him if I felt that was my only remaining option. Knowing that I’m probably going to fail, but I’m not going down on my knees.
My last remaining moments on this earth will not be to bow down to evil while it kills me and then kills my kids. I would try to take a piece of him with me, and maybe, just maybe, my kids might not die too. They matter more to me than anything on this earth. More than my life.
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M4-A1
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 8:08amWow what can you say…she is correct, it’s our stupid laws that caused this. not the gun…Love the picture of the Ruger Sr9 I own the Sr40 great gun.
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SwampFoxHiggy
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:25amnice weapon for sure, but the person holding it is itching for a slide-bite.
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The Knave
Posted on February 14, 2013 at 9:33amNot to mention about a 1/4″ worth of flesh to the top of her thumb when that slide comes back upon firing.
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