A Missouri newspaper is standing by one of its political cartoons about the death of slain ex-Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle, shot and killed at a Texas gun range earlier this month allegedly at the hand of a fellow veteran.
Lee Judge’s Feb. 9 cartoon for the Kansas City Star showed a grave with the headstone “American Sniper” and featured the caption, “If only there had been a good guy with a gun around.” The statement is a reference to National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre’s oft-repeated quote in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” and Kyle’s book, “American Sniper.”
Lee Judge’s Feb. 9 cartoon (Image source: Kansas City Star)
The conservative website Twitchy flagged the cartoon Thursday after a claim that it ran in syndication in the Charlotte, Fla. Sun Herald on Wednesday — the day after Kyle’s funeral. It actually appears that the cartoon ran in the Biloxi, Miss. Sun Herald newspaper, though the precise print date could not immediately be verified.
The Mississippi Sun Herald did not return a request for comment from TheBlaze about whether or not the cartoon did actually run four days after its original publication date and if so, why the outlet chose to do so in such close proximity to the funeral.
Miriam Pepper, vice president of editorial at the Kansas City Star, however, defended the original cartoon, calling it “very powerful” and said it “made a very telling point.”
“Here you have a very experienced weapons expert, you know, who’s murdered by another shooter and I think we believe very strongly that the discussion around the issue of putting more armed guards in places is not going to be the answer everyone agrees with,” Pepper told TheBlaze.
Judge could not be reached directly for comment, but Pepper said she was sure he didn’t intend any disrespect.
“I’m sure he wasn’t trying to be disrespectful to the deceased. It was a very powerful cartoon and sometimes very powerful cartoons are uncomfortable,” she said.
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Locked
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:06pmIt was distasteful and disrespectful to the dead children when the NRA president said this to suit his own agenda, and it’s just as bad when this paper did the same. Shame on both groups.
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The Big Mick
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:23pmThe Observant Student will note that Loke here is saying that to Defend One’s God Endowed Unalienable Individual Rights is “disrespectful to dead children.”
THANK you Loke for educating me. I was about to remind all and sundry that the Faux Moral Equivalence, which you commit here, is the MOST heinous of the Moral, Rhetorical, and Intellectual Sins; but you have shown me the Error of My Ways. No, I had forgotten, the MOST Heinous Moral, Rhetorical and Intellectual Sin is to use “dead children” as a Trump Card to excuse ANY “terminological inexactitude” ANY discogency or cognitive dissonance, ANY scurrilous canards against your opponent, ANY lack of Logic, Proof, Rationality or even Civility! And most vile of all,
ANY and EVERY Abrogation of God Endowed Unalienable Individual Rights.
I say to you, sir, ONE MILLION DEAD CHILDREN would NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT to INFRINGE IN ANY WAY the Slightest and Least of my GOD GIVEN LIBERTIES! DAMN you, sir for even obliquely implying it!
NO SIR! This is NOT a “plague on both your houses”. This is RIGHT verses WRONG, LIBERTY verses Tyranny, and you have placed yourself, claiming “dead children” as your mantle, on the EVIL side of the twain.
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The Big Mick
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:35pmProgSlayer. 4:29
My first education and career was Literature. What I learned from it was that Human Nature remains the same. So it IS True as it WAS True and MUST BE True:
“all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
The ills are no longer sufferable, The Duty is Clear. Only the number of Virtuous Men remains in doubt.
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lani59
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:37pm“Here you have a very experienced weapons expert, you know, who’s murdered by another shooter and I think we believe very strongly that the discussion around the issue of putting more armed guards in places is not going to be the answer everyone agrees with,” Pepper told TheBlaze.
The tell the black family in the WH and all those hired hollywood armed guards to give upu their weapons you POS.
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2spiders
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:43pmThe NRA president waited three days and only responded because for those three days he and the NRA became the 24-7 the whipping boy of the president and the media, all done while invoking the specter of those dead children to further their goals of ultimate confiscation. During the first week of the tragedy, the NRA was the ONLY sane, reasoned voice that called for action that would save children NOW, by arming good people to protect the children. Knee-jerks and feel goods abound in Washington, it’s good when a little common sense finds it’s way in as well. Thank you Wayne LaPierre.
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redfish52
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:46pm@Locked…I hope you can keep that positive attitude when someone is breaking into your home and all you have to protect yourself with is a lamp….good luck nitwit.
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encinom
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:11pmWasn’t it Beck that claimed that there were never shootings at gun ranges. Beck has been use the deaht of this vet to attack the President. All is fair.
Farmhand82
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:21pmWhat 2spiders said. The NRA was forced into making a statement because they came under such instant and brutal attack in the media, and even then they took a few days to respond so as not to look like they were capitalizing or trivialising the events. I remember stories about how the NRA has “finally broken their silence.” In short, you’re being a selective idiot if you think the NRA is somehow capitalizing on the massacre. They’re defending themselves from blame that has no place being put on them. That psychotic little **** in Connecticut wasn’t an NRA member, nor was he endorsed by the NRA in any way shape or form. They were only brought into the discussion because lefties can’t let a good crises go to waste and wanted to push their gun control agenda
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:21pmLOCKED
I hope those scissors work out for you when you are being mugged.
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Walkabout
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:36pmLocked,
The NRA president was correct & was not disrespectful. He was correct. Most of the time you need to meet force with force. Sometimes you can talk people out of committing criminal acts. There was that case around Atlanta,Georgia where a woman,Ashley Smith, talked an escapee,Brian Gene Nichols, from a courtroom not to harm her. He turned himself in. That is the exception.
I prefer talking. But if that doesn’t work, resorting to force is a must. Only a mor0n would assume they could flee in each & every case. Please not that the military often puts up a heavy volume of fire to cover their retreats (i.e. they are fleeing).
If I live near an anti-gun nut & they are subjected to a home invasion, I just might slow jam the 911 call. After all it is a conflicted event. there are so many things to consider. So pick your side & your lifestyle.
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Farmhand82
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:46pmHaha whatever Encinom. You lefties started using the dead children at Sandy to attack conservatives and gun rights activists almost instantly. By you’re screwed up logic, we righties should then be able to post political cartoons mocking the dead children the day after the shooting. Hey, all fair apparently. Hey maybe we can have mocking cartoons every time any politically active lefty dies, especially the ones who don’t die of natural causes! Haha you stay classy, Lefties.
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OldPatriot55
Feb. 14, 2013 at 6:01pmAhhh, the left hiding behind dead children once again. The shame is on an American President who morns a singer who died from a drug overdose, Whitney Houston, and even flies the flag at half mast for her. For an American hero…not a word…not just a shame, but a Damn shame!!
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JacquesChirac
Feb. 14, 2013 at 6:31pmDoes this surprise anyone? ANYONE???
Hopefully the folks who developed and printed this cartoon will have armed robbers break into their houses tonight, and the police will be nowhere to be found. I’d love to see the cartoon they print then…
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OldPatriot55
Feb. 14, 2013 at 6:32pmIf only the Kansas City Star had a good guy with a PEN around…
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MK2
Feb. 14, 2013 at 7:05pmI guess the same can be said when Dorner was shooting cops and killing them they had guns also o wait I forgot Dorner I mean DJango was a good guy also
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OccamsSword
Feb. 14, 2013 at 7:07pmTHE BIG MICK….You are an observant student, and learned well… A+
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338lapua
Feb. 14, 2013 at 7:18pmThis is as “respectful” as a cartoon written in the 10 hours when Teddy “the Drunk” Kennedy was passed out at home,before calling the cops to go find Mary Jo with the caption……”what, you want me to open the door for you?” Teddy stands on the shore of a body of water, only the roof of the car showing.
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Techcon
Feb. 14, 2013 at 10:58pmThe cartoon is horrible on the one hand ’cause it’s STUPID, but great on the other as it demonstrates the inability of “Spoiled Brats” (they call themselves “liberals”) to THINK.
During WWII, destroyers had guns on then–LOTS of guns.
But still, every once in awhile, a Kamikaze would get through.
Did ANYBODY argue for disarming naval vessels? Were there any cartoons of a Zero impaled ship sinking with this childish caption underneath, “If only there had been ships with guns around?”
NO!
This is the anti-logic of this cartoon:
1) it ASSUMES Kyle was armed, as opposed to waiting for his turn.
2) it actually tries to argue that if only the madman had a gun, that everybody would be alive, ya know, that old leftist straw-man, “Tah, well, executing him won’t bring back the victim,” as if ANYTHING could.
Pathetic.
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justasurvivor
Feb. 14, 2013 at 11:16pmencinom “Wasn’t it Beck that claimed that there were never shootings at gun ranges. Beck has been use the deaht of this vet to attack the President. All is fair.”
No, it wasn’t.
Hmmmm – where do you get your information? You can’t trust them, because they lied to you, and now you have proof that they are undependable. You certainly didn’t get that from Beck’s show yourself, because that’s not at all what he said..
1. First of all, there is almost constant shooting at a gun range when it’s open – that’s what it’s there for.
2. Second, he said there are no “mass shootings” at gun ranges. (Beck, in fact, said that not more than one or two people would ever be shot at a gun range. )
So now you have proof that you’re getting information from a lying source.
By the way, if you buy a membership, you can download the podcast, as I do every day, and listen to every word for yourself. Unless you’re afraid you might actually find out first hand how you’ve been lying about Beck for a long time – or repeating lies about him.
The truth is out there – and in here.
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jblaze
Feb. 14, 2013 at 11:21pmFARMHAND82
Right on!
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SUNTZU
Feb. 14, 2013 at 11:25pmAll you left-wing,lib,commie,progressive,homer
baby killers
How about the 20-25 million unborn you have
MURDERED over the last 40 years
Want to talk about that,And before you open your mouth
and say It part of the mothers body.
I read some where only one baby in history born
from Immaculate conception
and even I was conceived in the rumble seat
of a 1936 Ford.
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justgonnastay
Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:58amSorry for replying to this comment in an unrelated way just to get on the first page, but we MUST stop referring to murderers with guns as “shooters” or “the shooter.” A person on a rifle range is a “shooter.” My eight year old daughter plinking with her .22 is a “shooter.” We must not let them substitute “shooter” for “murderer!” Don’t speak their language.
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HappyConservative
Feb. 15, 2013 at 7:38amThe guy that killed Kyle is a nut job. The Sandy Hook killer was a nut job. The problem is NOT guns – it’s mental health issues not being addressed adequately in this country.
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Locked
Feb. 15, 2013 at 9:07am@The Big Mick, Anonymous, Redfish, Walkabout, and others
You are ALL mistaken. I’m staunchly pro-gun rights. You let your biases get in the way. They are both disrespectful because there’s NO way to prove that “good guys with guns” would have stopped these tragedies. There were “good guys with guns” near Kyle, and obviously the tragedy wasn’t averted. But my point, which you all obviously missed is that exploiting tragic gun-related deaths to influence politics is disrespectful of the dead.
The problem is not guns. The problem is crazy people, and politicians and lobbyists using their actions to further their own goals.
Well, and in the case of those written above, being trigger-happy in their responses and shooting from the hip rather than using their brains.
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kettererbg
Feb. 15, 2013 at 9:26amWhen I served my country, all shooting ranges had a range officer authorized to shoot anyone posing a threat to other range shooters. With that said, I agree with the NRA and the paper and find your statement of dead children to be offensive as well as myopic. Dead children have nothing to do with the murder of Mr. Kyle. So, take your sorry a$$ bak to your libertard hole in the ground and blog on your left wing, Owebowmapolepuffin web site.
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ashestoashes
Feb. 15, 2013 at 9:57amEncinom just proved my point..He/she said that Glenn was touting the fact that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun..This reminds me of the old cartoon about the scorpion
bumming a ride off the turtle promising he won’t bite if he gives him a ride across the pond..after the ride..the scorpion bites the turtle..when the turtle asks why..the scorpion says..because I am a scorpion. In this case..the intended turtle is the people..and the scopion is the Communists..I have been careful to not say certain things such as ..you notice all of the massacre shooters arewho are doing doing the killings are Liberals for fear they would get a “fake” conservative to do them..Communists use and I believe “kill” children to get their way..but they are doing it to make it easier for them to take what you have and kill you..achieving their downsizing of population to 500 million..It’s global people..they are working for the NWO in which only the elite..(billion and trillionaires) will rule over the “slaves” concentrated in small cities to serve them..Check out Agenda 21..also utube “Age of Deceit..Fallen Angels..NWO.” Start paying attention to what is happening in other countries..they are feeling it too..and angry..
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NewCreationDave
Feb. 15, 2013 at 10:52amNo, Locked, what LaPierre said was logical, true, appropriate and was not at all insensitive to anyone. The cartoon is a wiseguy remark rooted in specious illogic, easily debunked, and clearly insensitive to the victims of a tragedy. LaPierre, and we who are responsible gun owners, do not assert that EVERY bad guy with a gun will ALWAYS be stopped by a good guy with a gun. This tragedy was an example of the good guy losing. What’s your point, Locked? That if every good guy doesn’t win all the time, then every good guy should be unarmed so that he has a better chance of losing all the time? Perhaps you should try out your nonsense on HuffPost. Your kind of drivel seems to have a better chance of acceptance over there. Go figure …
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Locked
Feb. 15, 2013 at 11:10am@Newcreationdave
Judging from your username, you were banned before, huh? Who’s sock puppet are you…?
“That if every good guy doesn’t win all the time, then every good guy should be unarmed so that he has a better chance of losing all the time?”
No, moron. Did you miss the part where I said I AM PRO-GUN?
Of course you did. You’re a sock puppet account.
“Perhaps you should try out your nonsense on HuffPost. Your kind of drivel seems to have a better chance of acceptance over there.”
I understand, you hate conservatives who step out of line. Sorry, my God is God, not the NRA. Go worship your false idol elsewhere. Using the dead to further your political position is what I expect from Democrats, but the right is increasingly finding it just fine and dandy as well. Sorry, this is why I consider myself a conservative, not a Republican – because I think we should be better than that.
You don’t agree?
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NewCreationDave
Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:11pmLocked – are you okay? We all read your ridiculous initial post the same way Now you’re trying to back away from it. You tried to make the point that Wayne’s comments equated to the cartoon’s comments. You got called out on it and now you’re in attack mode! No, I’ve never been banned (how did you arrive at THAT silly conclusion?) I use 1 logon name, and 1 only, everywhere I post. Everybody knows who I am and I don’t hide or deceive Your post blew it big time! Apologize and move on. You’re making it so much worse with your embarrassing attacks!
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Locked
Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:55pm@”Newcreation”
Right, sock puppet. We certainly all know you… since November of 2012.
Again, do you condone using the dead to further political agendas? I find it incredibly disrespectful. Do you not?
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ksmike
Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:06pmThis is the reason I stopped receiving that “rag” of a newspaper. Judge is totally reprehensible. He can be the most offensive liberal and nobody usually bats an eye. Plus they have a plethora of other liberal commentators that think they are so much better and righteous than everybody else. The frustration each morning just wasn’t worth it.
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NewCreationDave
Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:27pmLocked: I’ve been blogging all over for many years (10 or so I guess). The 2012 date is just Disqus. You have issues, my friend. Please get some help ASAP!
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Silvertruth
Feb. 15, 2013 at 7:20pmUnless you know the exact details of what happened, you cannot comment like this cartoon did, either ethically or morally.
I’m not sure Kyle would’ve shot a guy he was trying to help. The assumption that it’s always wise to pull the trigger to defend yourself is just as flawed as taking away the ability to defend yourself.
We weren’t there, we don’t know exactly what happened, for all we know, they were both shot in the back, and both likely by surprise so the cartoon is deeply flawed in either more probable case.
Having a gun does not guarantee safety it just increases the odds of a level playing field.
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GuruMeditation
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:02pmLame & Shameful. But… Another “good guy” with a gun would likely have improved the situation.
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henryKnox
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:44pmExactly right. Anyone can shoot someone in the back but if another armed person were there to help then maybe the result would have been different.
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BlasberryStrat
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:00pmBut….GOD FORBID(!)…..ANYONE dare try to print a disrespectful cartoon about our anointed one.
They want ALL guns out of homes and out of people’s hands. They already have this accomplished and WE don’t even know it yet. They are simply PUSHING the demonizing of guns and in this case a National Hero simply because his work was being a Sniper. It’s over people, so be prepared for when they make the announcement to turn in your guns. The Left has zero worries and very relaxed about gun control. Why do you think this is? OBY HAS INFORMED THEM THEY ALREADY WON!
Might as well just hand over your 13 year old daughters to the Mexican Cartel’s. If you don’t fight, maybe they won’t hurt your daughter too badly. Not being mean. It is well known that it’s common practice for 30 year old Mexican men to have sex with a 13 year old girls. Pissssed?? You better be. This IS coming as soon as Oby opens the border. He’s got health care in place and now just needs to wait for guns to be taken from the people. Look in Oby’s eyes when he talks. HE HATES America, and having monthly talks with Mexico. Any wonder why this is??
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THe_Chemist
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:55pmSeriously… you got to be ******* kidding me… Is that how you treat a man who fought for our country? An American hero? Someone who stood up for your 1st amendment right so you could tar and feature the 2nd? Honestly, do you think banning and taking away ALL guns will make people good? Let’s pretend we can eliminate 100% of weapons.. Magically everyone is good? Let’s spend our way to prosperity! Yeah…..
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braddock66
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:49pmWhat a disrespectful lump of shardballs We’re under attack people.Get Ready
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TheIggies
Feb. 14, 2013 at 7:20pmHe’s not MY American hero. My hero would never kill people like a coward.
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OccamsSword
Feb. 14, 2013 at 9:07pmYour hero would just watch them get slaughtered, and refuse to help, like Benghazi.
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jteagle
Feb. 14, 2013 at 9:55pmHow exactly was fighting in Iraq defending our first amendment rights?
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Osco
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:54pmThe dude was a hero and compassionate for our vets. Only evil could mock and be so proud. God bless those who serve!
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Saff SGT
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:45pmwe will see when the smoke clears many folks dont have it so good. It will be easy to have them fight back, we are going to die anyway, why not take a Commie with you or more
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:53pmYou know what they say the only good communist is a dead communist and hopefully the commies come out on the streets and get this party started. Imagine millions of dead communists,it’s erotica.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:55pmWe all gotta die some time, eh Sarge?
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JRook
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:56pmIt was at a gun range. Are they saying there are not a lot of good people with guns at gun ranges. Wasn’t Kyle and his friend there to shoot? Perhaps we should question why the individual who shot him is allowed to have a gun or shoot in a gun range. Which is of course exactly the point behind 100% background checks and 100% gun registration. As someone wise has pointed out, everyone is in theory a law abiding citizen until the break a law or rather are arrested and convicted for breaking a law. Other than shoot guns and perhaps people in the military, what was the background of his assailant?
IndyGuy
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:03pmNo Rookie…The point behind gun registration is so guys like you know what doors to kick in when you decide it’s time to confiscate all firearms….We’re on to your little punk plans…
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naughtycal
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:04pmI think that Kyles death actually proves a something bigger NO ONE IS 100% SAFE . The idea that a law will make you 100% safe is as stupid as the idea that a gun will make you 100% safe. There are degree of safeness nothing more. Easier example they say seat belt laws saves lives but I have two friend who were two different accident where a seat belt would have killed them. Being thrown froma vehicle and thrown down in the floor saved their lives. But this discussion about guns was never about safety if not having a gun is safer then why do police carry them. Why are murder rates in gun free zones much much higher than those firearm freindly zones. If guns are a threat to society because of death then why are cars not being banned the cause 5 times as many deaths as gun and there the number of guns in america out number cars 3 to 1.
But more important than all that crap is Guns are a constitutional guaranteed right as a law abing U.S. not just any guns but guns that represent the average arms of the standing army at the federals government control. The 2cd amendment was for the time when the tree of liberty needs to be waters with the blood of the tyrant. Fact is the current ban on fully auto-weapons is Inconstitutional as it is an infringement. When we did nothing about that law the wheel of (fascist)progressives started creeping again. And not the beast wants its second bite of our second amendment.
LINE IN THE SAND TIME
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:04pmYes JROOK, you can background check on crazy that hasn’t happened yet.
Give it a rest. Perhaps we shouldn’t discuss anything with you dishonest types any longer. Maybe that’s the better order of the day.
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IndyGuy
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:05pmP.S…..Here’s your proof…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/
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The Big Mick
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:12pm“’tis a consummation devoutly to be wish’d”.
Hamlet Act 3 Scene 1
Progslayer. I’ve been saying for years megadeath is what it is going to take.
Make no mistake, these our our fellow dumbcits. Many will be Gangstahoodin Homie Obamapiles and La Raza Reconquistas, many the BiCoastal Commiequeers and Inside the Beltloop Ruling Class Aristos, but some will be the Folks down the street, in the PTA, at Little League.
Walter Willliams’ describes the divide in “Parting Company” April 7, 2010. These differences are irreconcilable, The Collectivist Statist Redistributionists are as immune to Logic, Reason, Coexistence, on any Free Terms WE can live with, as Zombies. You can Burn em, blow em away or BE EATEN BY them, but those are the ONLY choices for endgame THEY give you. Washington, upon receiving news of Lexington and Concord at Mt. Vernon, wrote to a friend: “The once happy and peaceful plains of America are now to be either drenched in blood or inhabited by slaves; sad alternative, but can a Virtuous Man hesitate in his choice?”
I say it clearly again, whatever few Patriots remain must end all denial that preserving their God Endowed Unalienable Individual Liberties can be done with anything LESS than killing many many of their fellow citizens. That is not Advocacy, that is Analysis, but TRUTH for all that.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:29pmBIG MICK Your analysis is correct and I believe it’s going to happen sooner rather than later because free men can only take so much prodding. I know the regime is only doing it to get it started,they’re looking for an incident where they can say we had to crack down and so it begins.
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subic
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:44pmNOT going to be pretty for the libs all they way around, upper or lower crust, progs, illegals flooding the border etc. Its acuallty going to be very brutal & barbaric.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:04pmI can remember many separate occasions where the leftists here were screaming, in all caps,
“NOBODY IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!”
That time is now long past,
There was a link posted above. I suggest you follow it.
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Uechi
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:45pmI sent this left ring rag an e-mail I suggest we all do the same. What a disgusting miserable thing to do.
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henryKnox
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:48pmProgressives are disgusting, heartless, mindless and souless so it doesn’t do any good to try to appeal to their decency. They should simply be treated as the clowns that they are while assuming that they can’t be helped. I think they have been given enough time and information to see the error of their ways and if it hasn’t taken by now then they are beyond help.
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Thundergod
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:43pmGood guys with guns often dont see the traitors among them,who swore the same oath,looking to shoot them in the back. Good guys with guns die on a regular basis in Afghanistan,shot in the back by the very men they trained,who swore an oath to them as an ally. Traitors are hard to identify because they are not men of their word. Didnt Chris Kyle have a bounty on his head posted by the Taliban? I wonder if this was the motivation for his murder? To re post this cartoon the day after his funeral I believe was an intended insult to all who defend the second amendment and Chris Kyle.
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GBT2012
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:52pmGood post Thundergod.
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momrules
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:43pmThe liberals do not care whose grave they have to stand on to advanced their anti gun agenda.
Dead children or a dead American military hero. It does not matter to them.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:58pmThey’re vile little cowards who would soil themselves instead of fight,all bark and no bite the lot of them.
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P8riot
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:42pmI didn’t know Ron Paul wrote for the comic section!
He mocks snipers and lobbies for the illegal drug and prostitution industries… no wonder he’s so popular.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:48pmYou’re a piece of ****. Paul had nothing to do with this cartoon, and you never bothered to read the full comment his tweet alluded to. Take you hatred someplace else, lefty.
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P8riot
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:54pmGotta love the Paulestinians (notice the similarities in tactics between Palestinians and Paulestinians if someone ever dares disagree with their fearless leader).
@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON – why so offensive, if you live by the sword… right?
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riseandshine
Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:48pmRon Paul 2016!!!
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P8riot
Feb. 15, 2013 at 6:57pm@RISEANDSHINE –
Good to see you again. I won’t call you a Paulestinian because you don’t feel compelled to call people a “piece of ****” simply because they disagree with them. You’re one of the few Ron Paul supporters that actually makes me more likely to vote for him since you logic with reason rather than insults.
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riseandshine
Feb. 15, 2013 at 8:44pmThanks P8triot….My support for RP has always been more symbolic than anything. To me..RP represents honest, transparent, Constitutional government….not that RP is pure and never wrong.
Later.
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Canada_Goose
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:42pmIt appears that the pro-gun crowd doesn’t much like being on the receiving end of a “politically incorrect” cartoon.
GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:48pmIt appears like the anti-gun crowd doesn’t know that their straw man argument is easy to knock down.
You’re free to stay in Canada and comment on your government up there. Down here your opinion is worth nothing.
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GBT2012
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:50pmYou think it’s only, “politically incorrect?” You IDIOT! It’s much more than, “politically incorrect.” It’s disrespectful to an American Hero that risked his life for you even though you’re an IDIOT! And then at home he spent his time and all of his money (he gave all proceeds of his book to his fallen brother’s mother) helping his military brothers suffering from PTSD. This is what he was doing when he got killed. So, go screw your politically correct, snobby, liberal, Kool-Aide drinking, Obama loving self. You IDIOT!
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FLguy71
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:57pmAre you stupid or just trying to be obnoxious? Obviously there’s a huge difference between being shot while unaware and having a gun to shoot back at a murderer on an elementary school campus when you see the shooter coming and/or hear him shooting. Being shot in the back in a traitorious fashion is a different thing, and no doubt one that libs like you enjoy hearing about, especially when it takes down a hero. To compare the two while making a mockery of this man’s death is typical of the immoral left, who have no boundaries of decency because they have no God.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:00pmCanadian Goose….
Stay north of the border….both physically, as well as politically. I don’t expect you to understand our Constitution and Bill of Rights; and you obviously do not. But let me ask you this question, do you dance on the grave of the Canadian warriors who have gone to war and died? There are what, maybe 5 of them in your entire history?
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Osco
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:00pmThere is no gotcha here. It is evil and pride. Standing on graves to get their foolish ideas out. Only a fool would be proud to be a sheep with contempt for the shepherd.
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Canada_Goose
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:14pmYou can call me names all you want, but there is a bit of hypocrisy here.
I actually think this cartoon is disrespectful to Mr. Kyle, I also think the NY post “Stimulus” cartoon with the cops shooting the rabid monkey was disrespectful to Mr. Obama, and those Danish cartoons were disrespectful to Muslims.
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techengineer11
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:19pmNo greater detractor of the misuse of our Military than I.. Moreover most intelligent Conservatives that share my disdain for the misappropriations of our armed forces readily realize that this gentleman was only carrying out the orders of the leaders of America. Now Dr. Paul said this was blowback. That was a politically incorrect statement although a true statement.
All of the dreadful and horrific repercussions of War should be considered before the bombs start flying and unfortunately we still have much blowback to endure before the decisions of the past 10 years have come to full fruition.
Regardless, this cartoon is foul. Extremely foul. I’d just as soon tear the **** ***** (fill it in, they won’t post it if I do) out on the spot.
There’s a time and a place for thoughtful debate.. I love reasoning out a matter and finding new ways to look at things which were previously unknown but my Constitutional rights aren’t up for debate.
I swear I’m tired of talking. We can debate on between ourselves on the right but there’s no debating this filth on the left. They are simply enemies/traitors to our Constitution and they need to be dealt with sooner rather than later.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:27pmI didn’t call you names.
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Dismayed Veteran
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:49pm@Lake
Be gentle on the Canadians. They lost an entire generation of young men in WWI. Many in WWII. Canadians are part of the coalition and have had soldiers killed and wounded. Go to Canada on Remembrance Day. It is markedly different than Veterans or Memorial Day.
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Farmhand82
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:39pmLakeHart, I’ll actually defend Canada on this one. The country, not our Troll here. They lost a lot of soldiers during WW2 and at the time had a fairly large military. Even today their military is larger than we might think and they’ve been helping in the middle east. Certainly more than a few of our fellow NATO allies have been.
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YOURSENSEI
Feb. 14, 2013 at 8:25pmThis is what you must know:
Reminds me of that cartoon with the cops shooting the chimp. Was that hilarious or what?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/chimp-nypost.html
Tough nuts, eh? Go sell your hypocrisy someplace else. Nancies.
It is so.
IndyGuy
Feb. 14, 2013 at 10:37pm@Canada_goose…Take off hoser…
http://www.execulink.com/~bobnet/hoser/pics.html
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Jase
Feb. 15, 2013 at 12:00am@senseiinyourownmind
This is what you must know: You’re a flaming ignoramus.
What does that cartoon have to do with this story? Are you actually gullible enough to buy into Al Sharpton’s race-baiting? …What a tool you are!!
Give up the sensei schtick, you drug addict, laughing stock, troll.
It is so.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:01pmI believe you’re mixed up with the terminology of political correctness. PC refers to harboring select special groups of people, affording them specific privileges above others.
Do gun owners fit this description? If you go outside the blaze, such as the commentary page on your local newspaper stand, I highly doubt it. But feel free to prove me wrong.
I think you already knew this however, Canadian Goose, but you decided to live out your namesake; to go where you’re not wanted and poop everywhere.
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gyro
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:35pmThey are a-holes for doing it but let then do it
That said
Some people are just slime with no sence of right or wrong
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SandyfromChesterfield
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:33pmThe Kansas City Star is one of the most liberal newspapers around next to the St. Louis Post Dispatch.
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shimauma
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:44pmjust happy to have never subscribed. Hope they collapse in failure.
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hypnos
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:33pmSpineless idiot.Sardonic humor to prove a progressive agenda.
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gyro
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:38pmSpineless
Yes thats the word for the liberal cowards
:)
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DEFCON4
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:24pmHis cartoon tomorrow, will be a memorial ‘singing the praises’ of Christopher Dorner!
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MCON29
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:30pmI dont care how many guns you have. If I blind side you and shoot you in the back, game over. This paper is intentionally misrepresenting the truth to advance its agenda. Hopefully the people counter punch by canceling their subscriptions.
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bonesiii
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:39pmThere will certainly be situations where an ambush cannot be prevented. But then, there could also have been a good guy with a gun around to see it happening while the victim couldn’t… I understand what they meant. :) Just remove the chip from your shoulder and think honestly…
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:40pmThat’s how they were murdered no doubt,it was from the back and neither man expected to be executed that day.That rag is trying to make money off a dead American heroes murder simple as that,it’s a POS rag.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:47pmWhat this is, is a reframing of the Kantian version of Perfect Reason. Basically, Perfect Reason is unobtainable, ergo, normal reason is flawed and we can discount it. (that’s basic, basic nutshell)
Here, there is no way to defend against every situation (a blindside from a supposedly trusted person), ergo since being armed can’t perfectly solve all violence ever conceived of, all calls to arm are flawed, and we can discount that.
Don’t let them play their cheap sophistry on you. They really should be disengaged from, left to spin like tops under their own inertia of lies and deceit.
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cantstandlibs
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:56pmGood point. Thanks, now I don’t have to make it.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:29pmLee aren’t you glad you have your first amendment right to be a smart @ss punk?
Here you have a very experienced weapons expert, you know, who’s murdered by another shooter and I think we believe very strongly that the discussion around the issue of putting more armed guards in places is not going to be the answer everyone agrees with,” Pepper told TheBlaze.
We don’t have the details of Kyles murder but we can assume the POS coward shot him in the back because neither Kyle nor Littlefield expected to be murdered that day I’m sure. Just three men going to the range,little did they know one was a lunatic.
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banjarmon
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:29pmLibs today just don’t know RESPECT!!! SHAME!!!
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Jase
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:29pmMiriam Pepper is a complete imbecile. The men who were killed obviously did not think the shooter was going to turn the gun on them. They were in friendly territory, not on a battlefield. They were completely caught off guard with no time to react.
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Saff SGT
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:27pmmaybe this will be hit on as the poopey is yet to hit the fan. and all these leftys seem to think they cant get hurt, I have news for them 50 million pissed of folks is very dangerous thing to mind mess with
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Lord_Frostwind
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:27pmRegardless of what you do; regulate guns, put more guns into the hands of people, the truth of the matter is if someone wants to kill you, and you don’t realize it, then you are likely to die. All it takes for everything to go wrong is one moment, and your life is ended. It was a lesson drilled into me in ROTC, and it is a lesson people in America need to realize.
Why is it that inmates can murder each other in a place where no weapons are allowed and there are guards to stop them? Because you are naturally going to be reactionary, criminals dictate the terms of the engagement, and they will always be one step ahead of you. The best you can hope to achieve is damage mitigation.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:26pmAs I’ve said countless times, the Left is not interested in anything but power. They will turn words on you, lie, spin and distort, they’ll create straw men, take things out of context and if you try to pin them down they’ll run or change the subject. There is absolutely no point or use in even pretending to engage them any longer. Let them spin all they wish, and let them know that no matter what they do, a 100 million man armed force will not comply with them.
Stop playing their game folks.
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Saff SGT
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:30pmyou are correct all the way. leftys seem to think they cant get hurt. I saw a hit list the other day before I destroyed it 99% all Left Wing Communist, they have a great surprise coming to them , they just have no idea what can of worms they are opening
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wmcritter
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:36pmWhere is this 100 million man force you claim exists?
There are roughly 80 million gun owners in America. That is 80 million individuals that feel completely alone and totally powerless. That is 80 million individuals that will either hide their guns or give them up, they will not fight.
I would love to see an 80 million man army, but that takes organization and leadership, two things that do not exist in the U.S.A. An 80 million man army can not be defeated, but 80 million individuals will surrender quietly.
All it would take is 1 governor, or 1 retired general, or 1 radio show talk host to begin to build the army, and yet none has stepped forward. Glenn talks a lot about love, but love did not win our freedom from the English, guns did. We will forever be slaves of our government until 1 man has the courage to lead the 80 million Americans that are begging with every fiber of their being for leadership.
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subic
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:36pmFrom what I’ve heard Kyle & his friend were ambushed by this idiot. Pretty hard to defend against an ambush especially when the ambusher is supposed to be a friendly. Total spin job by this azzwipe cartoonist.
I hope he gets his ass beat.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:40pmI’ve already told you, WMCRITTER, that you will get no discussion nor “conversation”. Take the hint, and buzz off. Try to take our firearms, and we will not comply. You’re being neutered, get used to it.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:41pmRight on Saff Sgt. And I say, let them continue in their ignorance. To hell with these lying, deceit fill, spinning monsters. Let them make the mistake of starting it, then give them no quarter.
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wmcritter
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:51pmJefferson, I think you need to re-read my post. I am one of the 80 million individuals, and the government can take my AR from my cold dead hands. My point is that there are 80 million people that feel the same way, but unless they are organized and lead, nothing will happen. If 20 police show up at your door and demand your guns, what will you do? You will either hide them or give them up, because you are alone. However, what if you were a member of an organized army? What if you could make a call for help to your army and have 1000 members of that army come running and ask those 20 police to kindly get lost? That is the only way we will keep our guns and freedom, and right now that does not exist.
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subic
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:55pmWMCRITTER, thoseare old #’s, more like 100 mill is correct maybe even closer to 110 mill. Go ahaed & keep thinking what you will as you posted. You don’t know what anyones going to do but I am with GHOST.
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GhostOfJefferson
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:09pmSOrry, I misread your post critter.
If 20 people start showing up at every house, to confiscate guns, wouldn’t you kind of know that ahead of time? The combined armed forces of these united states is aproximately 1.7 million, with 1.4 million stationed stateside, the rest overseas. The police forces are about the same, give or take. You could import the entire Chinese military to help, and we’d still outnumber them by a large margin. Further, there’s a fair chance that a lot of our own military would side with us (though one cannot count on that as a reliable variable).
So…their manpower is so thin that any confiscation across the land would be easily seen and communicated to other gun owners. If you had forwarning, would you sit in your house and wait for them to show up? I wouldn’t. I’d be out of the house and meeting up with people in undisclosed locations to enact a counter-strike. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t most sane gun owners? I suspect most would. Even if only 10% did, that’s a 10 million man fighting force (or 8 million if we use your 1992 figure). That’s a hell of a big, heavily armed, mobilized force to try and confiscate arms from.
If they try an end game like confiscation, we win.
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wmcritter
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:54pmJefferson, I would hope that you are correct, but I don’t believe it. Even if there are 100 million gun owners, how many are hard-core libertarians? How many are casual hunters, sportsmen, etc. that just don’t care enough to do anything? Second, they obviously won’t show up with 20 people at every gun owners house at the same time . They know who has “assault weapons” and who does not. So they will go only to a person that owns an “assault weapon” with a massive SWAT force and put on a big show about it. They will then play that 24/7 on all the news channels. Imagine seeing 20 SWAT members invade a home and take it down with ease played all day, every day on all channels. With the implied threat that it is going to happen to you next. This will terrify most gun owners, especially those with families, and they will give up their guns. When the propaganda campaign is over, I doubt you would be left with more than 1 million people that still own guns and are willing to actively fight to keep them. That is 1 million people scattered over 50 states with no organization and no leadership, facing a million trained U.S. military personnel plus 1 million LEOs that are organized and lead. The military will “just follow orders” like all militarys do. Few Germans were Jew-hating Nazis, but they still rounded them up because they “were just following orders”. The courage to disobey orders is extremely rare. This is why we must organize now, before it is too late.
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Walkabout
Feb. 14, 2013 at 5:41pmNever heard of a WM critter before. It’s babbling. I’d better call the CDC so they can Quarantine it & figure out what pathogen is causing its’ illness. Axis 1 baby.
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soybomb315_II
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:26pmwell one thing is for sure…Chris Kyle would be alive today if it weren’t for an unnecessary war in Iraq and misguided war in Afghanistan
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Lord_Frostwind
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:31pmAh let’s play the “what if” game once more.
Do you honestly believe that we would have never gone to war with the Iraqis again? We could be talking about UN sanctions against Iraq for building a nuclear reactor right now instead of Iran.
How do you know we wouldn’t have gone to war somewhere else? What if the North Koreans, emboldened by US helplessness decided to march on South Korea after we did nothing following September 11?
Could of, would of, should of, at the end of the day these sentiments are all meaningless. We fought those wars, we’ve lost men, so has the enemy. Would other people be alive or dead now if we chose a different course, doesn’t matter, the past is the past and cannot be redone.
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Saff SGT
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:31pmjust your opinion a leftys view which is not very important
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grimmster
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:32pm@soybomb aka encinom.
What is “unnecessary” is you, so do us all a favor, and take your unnecessay life elsewhere,say the bottom of the ocean, with your hero, bin laden, you pos moron…..
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Fubared
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:35pmIn that vein, Paul would be president in no one had to listen to tofu crap. Sure.
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soybomb315_II
Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:30pmit is not an “if”, it is a fact. some people cannot deal with facts
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Gonzo
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:25pm“I’m sure he wasn’t trying to be disrespectful to the deceased” Yea well, I’m sure he was disrespectful whether he was trying to be or not. I hope the pissant meets some SEALs in a dark alley some day.
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grimmster
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:30pmAmen Gonzo,and i hope encinom, goes along for the ride as well……
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:31pmI hope he meets some rapists in a public restroom and is saved by some navy seals.
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RJJinGadsden
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:03pmGONZO, You got that right! Can you imagine what would have happened had some cartoonist made a similar version with a right wing twist of this with Sandy Hook, or Aurora, CO victims? Naturally, that would not happen, but if so, we would never hear the end of it. Martin Bashir’s show would open with it every day.
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jafaralkafar
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:25pmIf only these people were as passionate about the 2nd Amendment as they are about the 1st.
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Cavallo
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:21pmMissouri Dems introduce confiscation of firearms bill! Pols not just talking about taking people’s guns but trying to ACT on it.
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Saff SGT
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:37pmyes they will give 90 days for all to turn in Guns they have listed. I feel sorry for the Democrats in that state they may all get killed with talk like this. It was very stupid for them to do this and very dangerous at this time. None of the people I talk to are on the Democrats side. This dont look good many will get hurt and leftys think this is a game. it is not, it is life and death to millions of folks. I am counting on Missouri Folks to fight this all the way and all other states to join in with support of all kinds
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LakeHartwellSailor
Feb. 14, 2013 at 3:54pmYep, a friend of mine just sent me a link to that article. Here it is:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/
Now, the bill is only specifying high capacity magazines and so-called “assault weapons”, but the reality is, this is just one more step towards total confiscation. The way I see it, my AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon, because it is semi-automatic only. But that is merely semantics. Bottom line, it will not stop at so-called assault weapons and high capacity magazines. They will go after handguns, shotguns and long-guns. It won’t stop. Libs are eroding our rights and will continue to do so until all of our rights have disappeared.
Look at the United Kingdom, they did a simular thing…then it was long rifles, then it was handguns…then it was shotguns (unless you are a farmer, and even then, it is highly restricted). That slippery slope resulted in at least one guy I know of who was a victom of a home evasion by an armed intruder. The Brit homeowner had a gun, and he shot the intruder inside his house. That homeowner is now serving a life sentance.
You don’t think our rights are being eroded? No one in this Administration will say that they condemn the use of drone strikes against Americans, abroad and at home without due process.
The day isn’t coming. It is here now!
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subic
Feb. 14, 2013 at 4:17pmThese dems can dance around making up unconstitutional laws, have a party, prance around in front of the camera, dog & pony show their bull**** all they want, haha they cannot tell you what guns you can own & no one is going to comply. All this is doing is ******* people off and going to get alot of good LEO’s and themselves killed.
This is outright treason & they will burn for it.
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