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eHarmony CEO Says Gay Marriage ‘Damaged’ His Company — and Explains Why He Hired Guards to Protect Against Angry Christians

Feb. 15, 2013 1:38pm Billy Hallowell

One could easily argue that Neil Clark Warren, 78, struck gold when he co-founded eHarmony, a dating web site that claims to be the catalyst for 5 percent of all new marriages in the United States (the company reports that 542 people wed every day because of the site). But Warren, a committed Christian, has also come under a fair amount of criticism over the years, particularly when it comes to his company’s stance on gay relationships.

After battling numerous lawsuits over eHarmony’s refusal to match homosexuals, Warren is claiming that the same-sex marriage debate has “damaged” his company.

Neil Clark Warren Claims Gay Marriage Debate Damaged eHarmony

eHarmony founder Dr. Neil Clark Warren (Photo Credit: eHarmony)

In a recent CNBC profile, the matchmaker, a Christian theologian who previously counseled married couples when he worked as a clinical psychologist for 35 years, had plenty to say about how eHarmony has been impacted by the controversial social debate.

Following a 2008 lawsuit over the failure to match gays, the company settled with New Jersey’s Civil Rights Division and agreed to launch Compatible Partners, a separate web site aimed at serving same-sex clientele; this service launched in 2009. While eHarmony reluctantly complied, Warren still doesn’t seem sold on gay marriage.

“I think this issue of same-sex marriage within the next five to 15 years will be no issue anymore,” he said. “We’ve made too much of it. I’m tired of it. It has really damaged our company.”

Screen shot from eHarmony’s web site

The decision to push the bounds of his religious beliefs was a troublesome one for Warren. While his company originally sought to work with a Christian base, his user pool grew over time. And when he found himself needing to create the gay-themed companion web site in order to stay in business in New Jersey, new issues abounded – this time the critiques came from religious people who disagreed with eHarmony’s decision to comply with government demands.

“When the attorney general of the state of New Jersey decided that we had to put up a same-sex site and we did it out of counsel that if we didn’t do it we were not going to have any business in New Jersey — we literally had to hire guards to protect our lives because the people were so hurt and angry with us, were Christian people, who feel that it’s a violation to scripture,” he added.

Screen shot from Compatible Partners web site

Warren also challenged other companies to put up money to “do a really first class job of figuring out homosexuality.” He even said that eHarmony would be willing to put $10 million up for such an endeavor, although he didn’t provide details regarding what figuring the issue out might entail.

“At the very best, it’s been a painful way for a lot of people to have to live,” he continued. “But at this point, at this age, I want America to start drawing together. I want it to be more harmonious.”

Warren has been married to his wife, Marylyn, for 54 years and the couple has three adult daughters. Watch him explain these issues here.

(H/T: Huffington Post)

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Saff SGT
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:11pm
His beliefs are $$$$ I know what runs crooked minds

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:45pm
  How can a government force a person to open a business of its choice? Oppression.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:03pm
  @The_Jerk
  
  “How can a government force a person to open a business of its choice? ”
  
  In this case, it didn’t. The paragraph about the settlement was VERY misleading. To repost…
  If you don’t bother to look deeper into this statement, you’ll get a very wrong impression. eHarmony was found to NOT be in violation of discrimination law; as a private business they can cater to whomever they want. The man who brought it signed up and then found he could not search for other gay men; eHarmony basically said “Tough luck,” and he sued on basis of discrimination. Even though eHarmony didn’t violate the law, they agreed to settle for $5,000 because the site didn’t advertise its heterosexual-only policy. To avoid issues in the future (and tap a new market), they started a new site.
  
  Sorry, but they could have won the suit rather than settling. Instead they went to make more money. Sounds like sour grapes to complain about it now.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:40pm
  Locked, thanks.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:18pm
  So let me get this straight (no pun intended). His argument is, “I tried to do the right thing because I’m a Christian but I found that I wasn’t making much money doing that so now I’ll cave on all my principles to make money and then bash my fellow believers.”
  
  Does that about some it up?
  
  BTW, you clown. There were NO Christians threatening your life so just stop it. If you were a Christian, you would know that.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:24pm
  @squidvet
  How did you determine that the threats did not come from Christians? Did I miss something in the article?
  
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- signal_lost
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:57pm
  Marine… So, you’re saying you have to prove you’re NOT doing something. Let’s ask the correct question. Show me a Christian who threatened your life?
  
  Really, Christians are going around threatening people?
  
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- alphahusky_me
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:01pm
  You are VERY wrong! I’ve personally met Neil and Marilyn when I worked at Verizon Wireless in Biddeford Maine. They are truly the MOST incredibly happy and wonderful married couple I have EVER seen! Not just inwardly either… Outwardly towards others as well! They are incredibly patient, SO wonderful to talk to! Matter of fact, I became so comfortable with them so quickly, the nervousness and fear of asking them about eHarmony and how it came to be.. Quickly faded. I was nervous as all heck meeting someone of that caliber. So popular. You don’t want to say anything to offend or make them uncomfortable being there in your store.. Your judgement of them is VERY wrong. I promise they would change your mind as well had you the chance to speak with them!
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:55pm
  Someone went to eharmony for the same reason they go into bakeries. They went there intended to be offended.
  
  After they are offended, they run to the government. At that point government lawyers are gunning for you every minute of the day. You can’t win every battle.
  
  So how do you match tops with bottoms?
  
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- Jinglebob
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:13pm
  Well Gay marriage is ruining the fabric that holds this country together, much less e harmony
  
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- alphahusky_me
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:24pm
  Personally, I do NOT believe in GAY / HOMOSEXUAL anything. When it all boils down… There is NO (ZERO) percent chance for procreation. It’s entirely illogical (To quote noted Vulcan).
  
  HOWEVER.. Regardless of who we are and how we were raised.. It is frankly, NOT an issue up for debate or ANY of our business. If you are a devout believer, you will be familliar with the story of Sodom and Gamora (sp*). In this story , you know that God spares all that are innocent. He gives chance to those that are innocent, to vacate the city. The city is then abolished.
  
  Being homosexual, even and ESPECIALLY under Gods watchful eye, is NONE of our business. For it is He that will decide right from wrong.
  
  Point being, let them be. Let them have their way with themselves. IF there is something bad about it accordingly to your religion… Your God will will be the judge. Don’t waste your time / lives trying to do Gods’ work. Capishe?
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:37pm
  “eHarmony CEO Says Gay Marriage ‘Damaged’ His Company — and Explains Why He Hired Guards to Protect Against Angry Christians”
  
  Facilitating fàģgots? Now THAT sounds like a serious crime to me … and to God, too:
  
  “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.” -Lev 20:13, Holy Bible
  
  Because it’s THAT SERIOUS a crime. So forget the body guards, Neil Clark Warren. Justice will find you regardless.
  
  “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” -Mat 10:28, Holy Bible
  
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- independentvoteril
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:08am
  speaking to someone who was going to school on Constitutional Law seems when they passed the civil rights bill the way they did (which is why many Republicans did NOT want it passed the way it was) it gives the GOVERNMENT right to MAKE private businesses have to adhere to ALL forms of such.. It did not just make WHITE businesses have to serve Blacks.. it came down to them being able to file a CIVIL RIGHTS lawsuit and FORCE a ANY business to accept whomever the lawsuit they claim they were being discriminated against,,it was one of those GOOD things that the PROGRESSIVES made bad by ALLOWING that door to be left open,, such as no discrimination against creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, etc.. THAT was the LOOP HOLE the REPUBLICAN’S were trying to close .. NOW unless you have a family run business you really have NO say.. same goes for if you have a 2 flat and want to rent.. etc.. when I was looking for my house my relator was NOT allowed to tell me IF the house I wanted to look at was in an area where I would be afraid to get out of my car to look at it cause the could take her license.. we set up CODE words after one bad showing…lol..
  
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- Oldmantex
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:31am
  Christian my butt, im so sick of these stories. He is no more Christian than Satan. This man loves money and that’s all. He violates Gods law for the almighty dollar, plain and simple. Stop calling people Christian that live an anti-christian life. If he was a Christian he would have told NJ stick it in your ear we wont do business there and kept to his claimed Christian values. But he didnt, he went for the money over God. You will know them by their fruits people, not their words!!
  
  Maybe we should start calling all Muslims, Christians, at least then the media and the left would go after them………..
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:15am
  Futt Buckers & Llit Cickers
  STOP the MADNESS
  
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:20am
  Yeah, I’m sure NJ had to hire guards to protect against Christians!
  
  Why don’t the homosexuals just create their own service like homohookup.com???
  
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- 4BlueStars
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:00am
  He sold out. He could have said, “Well then, I guess we won’t do business in New Jersey.” But instead he chose the easy wrong over the difficult right.
  
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- otherdale
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:30pm
  Atlas Shrugged comes to mind here.
  
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- 3-Blue
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:19pm
  Well, I don’t know about all of the slings and arrows being cast about on this thread, but I can tell you from experience that eHarmony is a miracle! Dr. Neil Clark Warren really (did I mention REALLY) knows his stuff! And if you want to call into question his Christianity, well, it’s my experience that miracles come from God, not man. So you do the math.
  
  My wife and I have been married for 6 years now having been matched on eHarmony and our relationship is an absolute miracle- it truly saved my life. We are so compatible that we have not had an argument (NONE) or even a cross word in all the 7 years we have known each other- and believe me, I do have a temper. People think it’s ‘abnormal’ or ‘weird’ LoL and they can think whatever they like because we are blissfully happy together and we don’t really give a damn what other people think. And guess what? All those eHarmony commercials are true. It’s not just marketing hype like everything else because eHarmony is not like everything else. If you know yourself and are brutally honest in the personality profile, (very long questionnaire) miracles will happen to you too.
  
  Even the people I did not find a romantic interest in became incredibly compatible and intimate pen pals! Did I mention that eHarmony is a miracle? :)
  
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- CathyvanDyke
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:26pm
  Mark 8:36
  What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?
  
  2 Timothy 2:19
  God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”
  
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- 3-Blue
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:29pm
  I love that Dr. Warren takes a principled, Christian stance against homosexual marriage and am a little disappointed that he caved. But I am willing to give him a large benefit of doubt because I know how many thousands of simply amazing marriages have been created through that man’s genius and God’s grace.
  
  Everybody decries the breakdown of the family and the disintegration of social morality in this country but nobody has a solution for what to do about it that actually works- or has worked in reality. Well, here is a man who has actually single handedly repaired a large portion of that social fabric with his own two hands and mind. What he has touched he has actually repaired better than new, in fact. Rather than find ways to put him down, we should be exalting him as a saint. At least someone is doing something and succeeding at it! All most of us do is talk, talk, talk while the village burns.
  
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- XRavishX
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:23pm
  @ALPHAHUSKY_ME Exactly! Essentially, people need to mind their own business.
  
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- Colorado7972
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:00pm
  So now what, will the “Incest groups, the Pedophile groups like Manbla, the multiple partners groups and the “bestiality groups” now sue and win as well to force his organization to create their love match groups? When does the insanity end!?
  
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- 3-Blue
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 12:17pm
  @Colorado7972: Very good point and the central one to the whole Conservative/Progressive debate, it seems to me…
  
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- ByTheWay1
  Posted on March 30, 2013 at 2:55am
  POINTS: 1:) Even Satan can quote scripture to suit his purpose. Until some fanatic organization manages to have the Temptation of Christ removed from the Bible? This is a FACT, and not just my opinion.
  2:) Since I’ve proved point one? Neither Zealots, Christians, Gays, or any other group can quote scripture to win an argument. If you read the passage? Christ didn’t let Satan use scripture on Him to win anything, so you can’t either unless you think you’re better than Christ.
  3:) eHarmony, when it first started up and blew up the airways and Internet with commercials on how it was so much better and why everyone should use it, convinced many people that the claims it made were TRUE. I think it is an innovative way to match couples, and have no problems with the claims made by them and the couples it has worked for.
  4:) eHarmony did NOT make it apparent in ANY of the commercial crap storm it used that Homosexuals were not included in this revolutionary new way of couples matching. This resulted in many people taking a large chunk of their time to set up an account and answer all the survey, JUST TO FIND THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE BOTHERED. eHarmony HID the fact they did not include homosexuals in their most obscure place they could find on their site, AND they never addressed the fact that they do NOT provide service to everyone.
  The complaint is not that they discriminated, it’s that they, through the SIN OF OMISSION, did not reveal this FIRST BEFORE WASTING PEOPLE’S TIM
  
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:09pm
Its all money we wont be here in 15 years, someone should have told him that. the civil war over rights that is coming will tear America apart for ever. America will not recover until 90% of all Liberals and Communist plus Muslim trouble makers get whats coming to them. The illegal Mexicans will get a taste also. Folks have had enough of this left Wing *********

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:28pm
  Sarge. Did you ever see my riff on ANSWER, (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) the group that “sponsored” the “Anti-war” “protests” during Iraqi Freedom? (as if the MaggaMuzzied Sandyknickers weren’t among THE most Racist bastids on the planet, Old Arab Proverb: “my brother and I against my cousin, my cousin and I against the stranger.”)
  I googled ANSWER through a labyrinth of interlocking and incestuous Boards, Agencies, Committees and “Co-Signers” and they broke neatly into 4 Groups.
  1. Radical Reds—”Communist Workers Party of Bakersfield”.
  2. Radical Green ecoterrorists—”Green Peace of San Diego”,
  3. Radical JihadiNazi Front Groups—Berkeley Palestinian Students for Peace
  4. Radical Militant Perverts–and this is a “no sheite” actuality, verbatim, QUOTE not a “reconstructed composite” like the other 3 examples: “Cross Dressers Against the War”!
  Note the overlap with your Tangoes. Note the ONE area of Common Agenda–Hatred of Successful White Male Christian Straights.
  
  Ps. Did you recognize the icon of one of TV’s most memorable Sergeants?
  
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athiest-infedel
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:09pm
This part was too funny though, Radical christians are coming, get the guns out.lol

“We literally had to hire guards to protect our lives because the people were so hurt and angry with us, were Christian people, who feel that it’s a violation to scripture,” he added.”

Christian love and understanding……..lol

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:16pm
  Yet, nothing about actual threats of violence. Here’s how it works. You just mocked Christians. I take that as dangerous, so I am forced to arm myself against atheist-infidels. Now, the fact that you never threatened me means nothing, all I had to do was insinuate that I am afraid of you, and badda bing.
  
  Hey, while we’re here, how did the Stalin purges and the Glorious Revolution work out, casualty wise? Just curious.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:29pm
  JEFFERSON..allow me because I don’t believe ATHEIST picked up on the nuance of your allusion to Stalin.
  
  ATHEIST..he mentions Stalin because the Soviet Union was a vehemently humanist/secular construct of the twentieth century founded in the philosphies of Karl Marx and his humanist/secular cogitations.
  
  Let me add…Hitler’s Reich, Khmer Rouge, Maoist China, Cuba, Eastern Europe, North Korea, ad nauseum…all staunchly humanist/secular and between them responsible for countless hundreds of millions of deaths and incarcerations. Heck..China still has gulags. We’ve tried the “no religion” thing already ATHEIST..it failed. Let me guess…you’re one of those “it just hasn’t been implemented properly yet” believers?
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:35pm
  Ain’t nothin funnier in this world than a Prhomo attempting to do theology.
  “Teaser” for “Jesus Part2: ‘The Return’”
  
  “And from His [Jesus'] mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may smite the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treds the wine press of the fierce wrath of God the Almighty”.
  Trailer “Revelations” 19:15
  
  Yeah, real Pacifist, JC, “gentle Jesus, meek and mild.”
  There’s your “Christian love and understanding” for ya, Ath-el.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:38pm
  Host of Jefferson.
  The Observant Student will note that Stalin purged CHRISTIANS, as did Mao’s “Cultural Revolution”.
  Usually when “Glorious Revolution” is used among Brits and Americans it means either the restoration of Charles the 2nd or the ascension of William of Orange.
  I’ll check on that and be back.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:47pm
  Yup the GR was Parliament and Bill against Jimmy Deuce.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:55pm
  @Mick
  
  I meant “Cultural Revolution”, where the kids were sent out to murder their parents en masse. Absolutely don’t know what I was thinking when I put in “Glorious”. Perhaps it’s a sign, from God, that I’m not consuming enough Scotch. Yes, that has to be it, clearly. :)
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:12pm
  ghost, yeah, figured you meant Mao’s. made sense in context, I understood. I apologize if that part of the exchange was snide on my part, actually didn’t intend it—-then…..at that point. There, a kind of honesty, eh?
  And given the Chinese Penchant for expressive names I’d figure SOMEBODY, somewhere DID call it “glorious”. I mean the Koreans got “Beloved Dear Leader” eh?
  And your point about kids informing on parents is well made.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:37pm
  The only hate I’m seeing is yours ENCINOM/MONICNE.
  
  Myself and numerous other commenters here stated that the homosexual group behind the suit could just have easily started their own dating website but that wasn’t the goal was it? Getting a date is not the problem…..getting society to bend to their will is the problem for them.
  
  Not that I expect you to learn from this ENCINOM/MONICNE…you’re way too far gone for anything like that to take place…but I’ll use you for an illustration of how hateful you are. If conservatives wanted to find dates on the ENCINOM created lefty-dating website “eDYSFUNCTIONAL” and you as the owner said..”I’m sorry but this site is only for like minded leftists to meet and date..it’s not intended for conservatives” conservatives would respect that and go off and create their own dating website. You could go ahead and conduct your business as you saw fit within applicable business laws. But say all of a sudden…some particularly militant lobby arm of conservatism insisted you include conservatives on your webiste? You stand your ground and say no..please..this is only intended for us lefties, you can create your own there’s room for both. But that’s not acceptable to the lobby group..and the conservative lobby group takes you to court, it wins and now your enterprise has to cater to them. Does that please you?
  
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- Robert999
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:37pm
  The Glorious Revolution of 1688 was successful in that it ensured Protestant monarchy in England. James II was certainly a crypto-Catholic, while William and Mary were strong Protestants. With the birth of a son to James, there was danger, and public fear, of a Catholic monarchy. The Glorious Revolution ensured that all British monarchs down to today would be Protestants. It was a very successful revolution.
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:07pm
  @k @Jefferson,
  
  well stated, thank you.
  raising the spectre of a religious boogeyman is a great way to get those who want to believe that’s what people of faith are to consider your business, and with ChristianMingle (which may be a subsidiary, for all i know) cutting into their avowedly Christian market, eHarmony likely believes casting such stones is not going to hurt their bottom line, and may boost the same sex site.
  
  All of which is perfectly legal and if they make money at it, good for them, that’s capitalism in action.
  
  But the whole ‘we hired guards because of Christian threats’ is demonstrably hyperbole… how many of those guards had to throw down on advancing Christian zealots. Funny, i think we would have heard about that, thank you MSM.
  
  the only zealots of note these days are those pushing to abuse the separation clause and to turn it into a exclusion of clause… the opposite of the intentions of the framers.
  
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- lildrummerboy
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:52pm
  @the bigmick…his sword is the word of God aka the Bible, if you read it you will understand that. The word is like a double edged sword Hebrews 4:12. The sword is used in reference for this…nice try though
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:31pm
  GhostOfJefferson
  I meant “Cultural Revolution”, where the kids were sent out to murder their parents en masse
  
  I have not heard of that.
  
  I did hear of people’s household good’s being burnt, kids turning in parents, people being interred, most every family being sent to the country side, some never returning (permanent exile), etc.
  
  I never heard of kids killing their parents. The ones turned in might have been shot by authorities in many cases. After all the government was communist.
  
  Also during the good times (outside of the Cultural Revolution) I have heard of massive epidemics killing kids right left & center. Probably meningitis or something that Western capitalistic Democracies handle very well. But hey communism is grand. Just ask MBE.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:08am
  Hitler was a humanist/secularist?
  
  Have you ever actually read Men Kampf? It speaks of creators and doing God’s will.
  Have you ever read of the ties between Hitler and the Roman Catholic church?
  Have you read about the oath Nazi soldiers had to take swearing to God loyalty to Hitler?
  Have you read how their belt buckles read “Got Mitt Uns” aka “God on our side?”
  
  Oh and North Korea is secular/humanists?
  Have you ever actually read anything about their culture? Kim Il Sung is listed in their Constitution as the “eternal president”
  In their propaganda films it’s said that when Kim Jong Il was born, the mountains rumbled and the birds sang in Korean
  
  Nice try on those.
  
  Stalin was definitely an atheist, but he controlled masses of people who for centuries worshiped their leader as more than a man but less than a God.
  
  These don’t sound like atheistic societies to me.
  
  Nice try though
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 4:29am
  http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian
  
  Moderation you might try to brush up history from an honest liberal site.
  
  More than likely Hitler wasn’t Christian but rather neo-pagan/Norse mythologyinfluenced propaganda.
  
  But he also knew how to manipulate people. He would use whatever any material possible and twos it to his means.
  
  Once he actually took over churches were forced to have pictures of him rather than pictures of Christ, and adapted in some of the pagan occultic rituals mandated by the state. Also The Aryan god essentially god merged with Odinic traditions.
  
  The bible itself was purged of all Jewish influence and rewritten to fit the aryan occult system. Jesu himself was transformed into a Nordic figure.
  
  Keep in mind that even hitler was critical of the Odinc mysticism aspects of naziism as well, but it was deeply rooted in the system through people like Himmler.
  
  Obviously he had no care for the ten commandments considering he broke every single one of them.
  
  Hitler was more an opportunist and would use whatever means to control his people and indoctrinate them, but that doesn’t mean he actually believed any of the myths/beliefs himself.
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 4:46am
  Hitler may actually be similar to people who are born and raised Christians, and then become anti-theist later in life, either turning agnostic or athiestic later on due to their dislike of the control and as they see it ‘indoctrination’ within the religious circles. However since he was an oppertunist he understood very well how a cult or religion could be used to control the masses, so he let people like Himmler use it, and it was used to warp the churches into state controlled paganism that they became. But he himself grew to think of it all as hogwash.
  
  It’s interesting to note that in Marx’s On the Jewish Question, he too saw religion as something that needed to be wiped out during a revolution because it offered a means of resisting ideals, in order to implement the new communist system. It might go as far to use the guillitine to do it. But he saw religion to be a powerful means of control (as he said in another work it was an opiate for the masses), therefore he saw once things settled down, and peace was restored, it was more the duty of the state to introduce some new religion for everyone to practice equally, that would allow it to indoctrinate future generations.
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 5:11am
  Also remember that any traditional church or christians that refused to follow through with the changes made by the state to comform to the new state religion (trying to remai
  true to their beliefs) or attempted to resist and save Jews and others persecuted by the nazis as true believing Christians should; they ended up being sent to the concentration camps to die as well.
  
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- jwpowers41
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:28am
  THE homosexual community likes to force their lifestyle on everyone when will they learn we
  don’t want to engage with you you made your perverted choices so keep them to yourself
  
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- Commander8080
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:30pm
  That is what he said. However failed to officer any proof I question his story. It is more likely his site would make more money selling to homosexuals than to straight people. Homosexuality is more about lust and easy sex than love. Once you set you sights on money it is easy to loose your moral footing
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 1:24pm
  @SACREDHONOR1776
  
  Wow, you just completely proved my point.
  
  It’s always hilarious when people try to correct me and in that process….somehow prove my point.
  
  Nowhere did I say that Hitler was some form Christian(I’m also not saying he wasn’t a Christian). Though there is NO doubt that his soldiers were.
  
  The whole point is, is that Hitler was no atheist. He wasn’t a humanists, or secularists. He believed in some form of a higher power.
  
  My response was to the incoherent ramblings of a psychopath on here who makes comments that are counter to history such things like “North Korea is a humanist/secularist society.”
  
  North Korea is the epitome of a theocracy where the only right a citizen has is to worship the “Dear Leader.”
  
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SREGN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:07pm
I thought they preferred restrooms.

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- Xanderson
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:44pm
  In the last picture of the story, the gay and lesbian page shows “Brian and Amir” standing behind an out house. Can’t tell if it’s a before or after shot but they do look pretty awkward together. I don’t think this match is going to work out :( Better luck next time!
  
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- PK_SEA
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:17pm
  That’s where the TP is, so you can wipe the feces off of your gentleman’s sausage.
  
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- crackerone
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:15pm
  Since Obama they have become more upscale. They’re now called bathhouses.
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:23pm
  @PK_SEA…..RoFL, good one.
  
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- yiska8
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:21pm
  Ha!!!!
  
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:07pm
“Compatible Partners”, LOL.

It ain’t rocket surgery. Tab A goes into Slot B. To do otherwise IS NOT compatible.

Why are these deviants so hetrophobic?

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- Stoneez
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:37pm
  Lol
  
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Gonzo
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:05pm
Why does the government have any business telling a private company who they have to make matches for? You should have just taken New Jersey off line Warren.

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Locked
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:05pm
Interesting situation for a few reasons:

“Following a 2008 lawsuit over the failure to match gays, the company settled with New Jersey’s Civil Rights Division and agreed to launch Compatible Partners, a separate web site aimed at serving same-sex clientele; this service launched in 2009. While eHarmony reluctantly complied, Warren still doesn’t seem sold on gay marriage.”

If you don’t bother to look deeper into this statement, you’ll get a very wrong impression. eHarmony was found to NOT be in violation of discrimination law; as a private business they can cater to whomever they want. The man who brought it signed up and then found he could not search for other gay men; eHarmony basically said “Tough luck,” and he sued on basis of discrimination. Even though eHarmony didn’t violate the law, they agreed to settle for $5,000 because the site didn’t advertise its heterosexual-only policy. To avoid issues in the future (and tap a new market), they started a new site.

Sorry, but they could have won the suit rather than settling. Instead they went to make more money. Sounds like sour grapes to complain about it now.

I’m also very saddened to see that he had to hire guards to protect the company against so-called “angry Christians.”

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- StanO360
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:23pm
  Thanks for the info. The “had to hire guards” might be a strawman to provide cover for his decision.
  
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- diablosho
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:36pm
  FIRST, I just want to say that in principle, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! But legally your statement is wrong.
  
  While it SHOULD work this way, the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that, based on the Interstate Commerce Act, any business that uses any product or employee that crosses state lines is bound by Equality laws. The only time a Private business is allowed to discriminate against a Protected Class is if it is COMPLETELY intra-state. The last time this tactic was used, they claimed that since the cleaning chemicals and toilet paper came from out of state, the business could be regulated for Equal Rights under Interstate Commerce.
  
  So if you live on the state-line, and you hire someone that lives on the other side, or if you use cleaning supplies (or toilet paper) that is manufactured in another state, or if you use an accounting/legal firm that is based in another state (maybe by using Quicken or Tax-Act, for example), then you WILL be regulated by the Federal Government under Interstate Commerce, and you WILL be forced to either serve those Protected Classes or shutdown your business, pay for damages in the impending lawsuit, and most likely end up with some sourt of Penal (HA! Get it?!?) ruling against you via State/Federal Court and perhaps potential Hate-Crime prosecution. eHarmony chose to comply to make their lives easier and to still facilitate match-making, but that decision is intensely personal and not all of us would make the same decision as ot
  
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- its_the_end_of_the_world_as_we_know_it
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:37pm
  I noticed that too… HE SETTLED. Then he said the attorney general of NJ decided they HAD TO put up a same-sex site. Really? Who settled again? Who wanted to stay in NJ for revenue reasons? This was his decision, so he settled and now is lying about it… sliding down the slippery slope of moral compromise. Now he claims, HE LITERALLY HAD TO hire guards for protection… sounds like another lie/exaggeration… sounds like someone living in the fear of sin. So he is blaming everyone else for his decision AND willing to spend $10 million to do a “first-class” job of figuring out the gays?? Warren makes no sense… frankly I question weather he is really a Christian… converted, transformed, a new person in Christ? He sounds like another delusional non-Christian, that claims to be otherwise… reaping what he sows. Were there angry Christians, sure – probably, did he have to get guards? I doubt it, unless you believe he had to cave-in morally to the pressure of rogue NJ government. I personally do not believe anything Warren says.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:51pm
  @Diablosho
  
  “While it SHOULD work this way, the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that, based on the Interstate Commerce Act, any business that uses any product or employee that crosses state lines is bound by Equality laws.”
  
  Sexual orientation is not a federally protected category. Much like how states that forbid gay marriage would not need to abide by gay marriages performed in other states, New Jersey’s discrimination laws would not apply to other states. Also note that the state of New Jersey said that eHarmony did not violate their own discrimination laws anyway.
  
  @Its_the_end
  
  “I personally do not believe anything Warren says.”
  
  I don’t necessarily disagree with him, but the paragraph I quoted was at the very least poorly articulated. He settled rather than pressing the court case, and set up a new site rather than simply sticking a “Sorry, we aren’t good at matching gays and so we don’t offer same sex services” disclaimer on eHarmony.
  
  It certainly seems like he was in it for the money (not that that’s necessarily a bad thing; eHarmony is, first and foremost, a for-profit business), and is now trying to drum up sympathy in a bit for more attention.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:56pm
  Great explanation Locked, thanks for clarifying.
  
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- its_the_end_of_the_world_as_we_know_it
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:13pm
  I don’t hang my morality on the coat rack when I walk into the office. Warren is damaged goods.
  
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- BoyScout_Mom
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 5:05pm
  This brings up an opportunity to ask questions about something I was thinking about this morning.
  
  Lately, I’ve heard Glenn raising the question: Why is the govt in the business of legally recognizing marriage anyway?
  
  While I would like to hear, learn, and understand the argument on both sides, to me the answer seems painfully obvious: In the matter of divorce, custody and support of children. States recognize legal marriage for this purpose, and I suppose the Fed IRS for purposes of taxation.
  
  I’d like to hear opinions on both sides of this, because: If there is a way to begin forming alliances with those I may morally disagree with (who neither pick my pocket or break my leg) in order to remove more govt out of my life, I’m interested.
  
  For me personally, I’m against legally recognizing same-sex marriage because I do not think they should be adopting and raising children. And believe as all the mental health community believed until a few short years ago, homosexuality is a psychiatric mental/emotional/spiritual/physical disorder that leads to an “unnatural affection.” I believe raising children in such an environment is tragic, and therefore, possibly should be legally prohibitive.
  
  Anyone else opinions, please?
  
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AvengerK
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:04pm
And as if to prove me right this is what Gay Inc will do if the federal government ratifies homosexual marriage. They don’t want “equality” they want submission to their fantasies of normalcy.

eHarmony is a private business that chose to conduct business in the manner it deemed fit. But rather than get a sympathetic backer to open their own website, Gay Inc. chose to sue and threaten instead. This is what the hyper militant Gay Inc will do and will keep on doing to anyone that doesn’t back down to it. If you don’t kowtow to their agenda you will be sued or intimidated into acquiescing to their demands or going out of business.

Gay Inc. is an ugly, spiteful, hateful little group of militants. They will hide behind “discrimination” and attack any church, enterprise, group or individual that resists them.

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- momrules
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:16pm
  …………..and Gay, Inc has the full backing of the Federal government. It takes a strong person to withstand the onslaught and it is a shame that Mr. Warren did not have that inner strength. He is a very luke warm Christian.
  
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- Free_Thought
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:46pm
  You and your gay inc crap. Who is the ceo? The cfo? Who handles hr and the warehouse where they send out all their publications and merchandise? The big gay conspiracy. Lol. I dont think i have ever seen anyone as scared of gay people as you. You must be terrified of straight men if you are this scared of gay men. I am surprises though that you did not pull up your usual hiv stats for us again for the 100003 time.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00pm
  Nothought – I know that you Marxists oppose freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Why else do you homophiles sue anybody who doesn’t give you what you want?
  
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Cavallo
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:03pm
So the government FORCED a business to create a business to cater to a protected special class of sexual degenerates? Why? Are queers so incapable of starting their own dating sites that they must use the police power of the State to force someone to make it for them?

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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:08pm
  @Cavallo
  
  “So the government FORCED a business to create a business to cater to a protected special class of sexual degenerates?”
  
  The article is written very poorly on this point. The courts found that eHarmony did NOT violate discrimination law, because a private company can cater to whomever they want. However, to avoid the charges of false advertising (the service did not specify heterosexuals only, and the gay plaintiff claimed that he signed up without that being clear) they settled out of court with him for $5000 and a free year’s subscription. I suppose in case he suddenly became straight?
  
  The new site that was created served two purposes: to stave off future claims of discrimination, and to tap a new market. Sounds like the CEO was sour grapes about the whole thing after the fact, but he certainly was not FORCED to start a new company; he did so for profit.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:11pm
  I thought the same thing. I’ve never heard of a business forced to support political and social ideas it disagrees with, and forced into starting a business to accommodate such requests…or else. You’d think that if it was such a huge issue, gays could have started their own site. But it’s not about money or whether it was an issue to start up, it’s about forcing beliefs onto others against their will. And that, my friends, is what Leftism is all about.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:41pm
  JEFFERSON…you would think indeed… but that’s not what Gay Inc’s trying to accomplish.
  
  It would have been the easiest thing in the world to find a backer and launch an all homosexual dating website. It’s wouldn’t be the first one of it’s kind. The aberrant nature of homosexuality is such that they even have phone aps and websites where they can find a willing, anonymous sex partner, arrange a time and a venue and have no-strings, anonymous sex. It’s the high- tech version of their glory holes and bathhouses they enjoyed at clubs in cities like San Francisco for instance. The serious health risks of this kind of behaviour aside….it’s not the ability to find a date on a website that Gay Inc is interested in.
  
  Gay Inc. wants homosexuality to appear absolutely normal and harmless. They want homosexuals included in every aspect of coupling and relationships in the public eye. This is to create the impression that homosexuality is as innocuous as being left handed. To do this means forcing anyone that resists their agenda to give up or pack up..this includes churches. If the Federal government ratifies homosexual marriage you’ll see this behaviour explode in volume and tenacity.
  
  Gay Inc is a venomous, hyper-litigious hate group. I hate to use that kind of hyperbolic language but ..if the shoe fits.
  
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WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:02pm
Ok so he wasn’t willing to pull out of Jersey because of why…ohhhh he would lose money. Hummmm. And he wants America to ‘draw together’ and be more tolerant…I mean, ‘harmonious’. I’m sorry Mr. Christian business owner but what part of the bible doesn’t tell us to be ‘Set-Apart’???

This was not a faith based decision it was a profit decision. Welcome to the world of compromise.

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whatsallthisthen
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:02pm
Another company doing business the way he felt like it, doing well, then govt. steps in and screws everything up in the religion of diversity. The people of the US don’t trust the govt. to get involved on one hand then trust govt. to fix problems. Go figure.

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Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:02pm
I note that Warren did not need protection from angry gays, he needed protection from angry Christians. Most revealing.

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:14pm
  No, it’s the School Teacher and Church in Indiana connected with the “Traditional Prom” that needed protection from “The Wrath of the Prhomos!”
  The Observant Student has noted that SilverFace here has not cogently followed through on what Theologian Francis Schaeffer calls, “the logical outcome of presuppositions”. The Prhomos GOT what they wanted throught the FORCE of the STATE. What have THEY GOT to be piszd at?
  Christians, on the other hand got flipped the bird. So who has more motive for being piszd?
  The Thoughtful Student has thus reached a Cogent Conclusion on the depth of Deater’s intelligence and the breadth of his bigotry.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:54pm
  No, the Christians got what they wanted–an eHarmony free of the possibility of homosexual matchups. They got it by threatening vigilantism. The state of NJ operated according to the rule of law and due process, which is much preferable.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:51pm
  Drako
  Those in charge of the machinery of state can make it oppressive. Yes they have a process, but there are point where they can pick & chose what cases to prosecute & which ones not to prosecute.
  
  The can also chose to interpret laws narrowly of expansively. Just because it is the government working according to the law does not mean it cannot be capricious or vindictive.
  
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sparkyrules
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:01pm
Warren also challenged other companies to put up money to “do a really first class job of figuring out homosexuality.” He even said that eHarmony would be willing to put $10 million up for such an endeavor, ”
Seems like he has more money than he has brains.Its amazing how easily people just throw their values and convictions out the door in this day and age.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:59pm
  Why is homosexuality something that needs to be “figured out,” any more than heterosexuality? I’d say Warren still has a way to go.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00pm
  Lloyd – Being heterosexual is normal while being homoesexual isn’t. Get over it.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:13am
  Being right-handed is normal, but I don’t see any great push to find out what causes left-handedness. Who needs to get over what?
  
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:00pm
Good Morals and Ethics ….stick with them

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- Free_Thought
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:47pm
  I agree but you dont have to be christian to live a good and moral life.
  
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- IMCHRISTIAN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:30pm
  no, just a message to all.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:01pm
  Nothought – Since when have you atheists ever been good or moral people?
  
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GoodStuff
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:57pm
Let’s be honest. This guy wimped out. He should have just left the state and told em to screw themselves. Instead, he cowed and create a **** “marriage” site. He was more interested in money than Biblical principles.

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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:57pm
I think God will always bless you when you defend your beliefs….It’s quite simple….

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- momrules
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:11pm
  Yep. Mr. Warren caved and set his Christian beliefs aside in the name of compromise and monetary gain.Too bad. He should have increased his faith but instead he chose the easier path.
  
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athiest-infedel
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:57pm
I’m in support of marriage by adults, even gay ones , but the right to refuse service should apply here also. He should have stood his ground. And I think if New Jersey fell into the ocean would anyone care??? (unless you live there)

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:49pm
  nice bit of even handed limited role of Government, AI. I salute you.
  on this, you speak cogently.
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:32pm
  Yo atheist….This has always been the definition, so either you have a problem with comprehension, or an agenda that violates moral understanding.
  
  Definition of MARRIAGE
  a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law.
  
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allensmithee789
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:57pm
Most concerning is a private company being forced to cater to a government demand. If eHarmony didn’t want the money from gay dating, then why should it be forced to do it. Let someone else form a company to cater to that “need”? What if gay coupling website isn’t a money maker? Is it discriminatory if eHarmony closes the website? Or is it the price of political correctness worth our freedom?

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chips1
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:55pm
Starting a site to promote the spread of AIDs. What a novel idea.

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- Free_Thought
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:49pm
  Lame
  
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Owt_Raged
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:54pm
It’s a shame when someone compromises their beliefs for a buck…

Just lost respect for this guy.

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:05pm
  And thus we see that not all “costs of doing business” can be contained in a balance sheet.
  Something Christians often forget, OW, is that one of the First Things Jesus does is REDEFINE success. “The last shall be first, go sell all that you have, give it to the poor and come follow me.”
  It ain’t in any way easy, ain’t got there myself, but we lie to ourselves when we pretend that our Standard of Measure isn’t “not of this world”, but “treasures in heaven.” “Nobody can prioritize both God and Money as #1″ Jesus says.
  
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Dexter Alarius
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:52pm
He should have called the alternate site “eSodomy”.

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- GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:01pm
  “Weekend at Barney’s”
  
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- Will-db
  Posted on February 27, 2013 at 8:22am
  That is a hideous and hateful comment to the extent that I laughed brazen innapropriateness!
  
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:50pm
“But at this point, at this age, I want America to start drawing together. I want it to be more harmonious.”
But of course! All that has to happen is for those who believe they have a Moral and Theological Duty to regard Homosex as a Debauched, Depraved, and Degenerate Idolatry to be SILENT. And if they will NOT be silent they will BE Silenced. Sure, no problem to “draw together” at all on those terms.

Now “drawing together” and “being harmoniuous” with the Collectivist Statist Redistributionist THAT might be more of a problem. Read Walter Williams’ April 7, 2010 Column “Parting Company” where he describes America as Two Camps with “irreconcilable differences” and suggests DIVORCE.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:26pm
  If you don’t like homosexuality, don’t be homosexual. And leave the rest of us alone.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:44pm
  EXACTLY, Drakelover, you want to go perv keep it between your own sheets and LEAVE the REST of US ALONE to say “ewwwww yukkkkkk” and “keep it outa my face, please”.
  But THAT ain’t what you SELLIN, now IS it, THAT ain’t what got the State of NJ ENVOLVED now IS it? Naw, this is about using the Imprimatur and FORCE of The STATE to FORCE Christians to SHUT UP. It’s about Silencing anyone who DARE say “That ain’t right!”
  If it truly is a matter of INDIVIDUAL choice as opposed to MANDATED ACCEPTANCE you wouldn’t give a D AMN who says what about what.
  
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Stoic one
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:49pm
Really very simple..gov’t sanctions/recognizes no marriages — only civil unions of consenting adults.

Marriage is a religious action, answerable to God

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:58pm
  Aww but God never answers back :(
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:04pm
  To Jimmy Morrison and The Doors of Rejection
  
  ROLLIN ON the Floor Laughin!
  
  yeah, DoorP, that’s what they said in Sodom: “GOD don’t CARE!”
  “INCOMINGGGG!”
  
  The Observant Student will note Dorp is Arguing to Infinity. God has never “answered back” to him, ergo God must NOT answer, ergo……follow what Theologian Francis Schaeffer calls “the logical outcomes of presuppositions” all the way out.
  The Thoughtful Student has thus formed a cogent evaluation of the Depth of Dorp’s Intellect and the Breadth of his bigotry when said student considers Dorp is IMPLYING OMNISCIENCE in Dorp himself!
  “Well I ain’t never heard no sucha thing so it CAN’T BE!” Omniscience is a Godlike Characteristic.
  If one follows Dorp’s “logic” all the way through, one arrives at the conclusion Dorp never talks to himself because “God never answers back.”
  Dorp, if you have half the brain you believe yourself to have, can you not grasp the simple actuality that EVIDENCE INSUFFICIENT TO CONVINCE YOU, is NOT coterminous with “NO EVIDENCE!” And that “absence OF evidence is NOT evidence of ABSENCE.” You don’t believe. Hot Sheite, good on ya mate! But it don’t say a DA MN thing about the cogency of the belief of OTHERS. YOU simply have NO WAY to JUDGE that. Don’t keep you from shooting your mouth off, but still, it’s the Truth.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:33pm
  Oh Trust me @A Little *****(since you change my name so cleverly all the time)…I think you hear god plenty. Phew…
  
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Fubared
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:48pm
“Brian and Amir”…. A User and The Jerk? Peas and carrots.

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Weiners Wiener
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:43pm
He should have held his ground at the expense of doing any business in New Jersey. You either believe in something or you don’t.

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- Hammerdown
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:50pm
  Exactly, he chose profits and the dollar over Biblical beliefs.
  
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- Dame.Felis.Catus
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:58pm
  It looks to me like Mr Warren has put the almighty $ ahead of Almighty God.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:00pm
  Wouldn’t be the first “ministry or “Christian Business” to sacrifice Theology, Biblical Integrity and “Holiness” to expediency, WW.
  The History of the Church is littered with them.
  And the “reasoning” is ALWAYS some variant of “think of the people we’ll be HELPING!”
  At Duke Divinity one text we read on the History of the Methodist Movement said something along the lines of: “At this point (“closing” of “the Frontier”) the Methodists had to decide if they would remain a Holy Society or become a Great Church, they chose they latter and the World has never been the same.”
  When I read that I remembered how it was The Methodists who rammed Prohibition* down the rest of the country’s throat a generation or so later. And out of THAT came Organized Crime, General Disrespect for Law, all kinds of Unconstitutional Federal Regulations regarding Fire Arms and other things.
  I’d say the Country got Screwed when the Meths decided.
  
  *WWJD came from “In His Steps” a novel about a turn of the last century Town Converted to a “Lifestyle of Christ”. Guess who THE EVIL bastids are? The Booze Industry. Prohibition got through because a majority of The Administration, Congress, SCOTUS, Governors, State Legislatures and Courts were METHODIST and Methodism had gone from TEMPERANCE to PROHIBITION!
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:07pm
  Seriously MICK…we can lay blame for the existence of the cosa nostra at the feet of the Methodist church? In Sicily too?
  So all that extortion, prostitution, gambling, etc, didn’t count? It’s just prohibition of alcohol through the lobbying of the Methodist church that started organized crime in this country? The Jewish mob in New York in the late Nineteenth century? Doesn’t count?
  
  Sure..prohibition gave organized crime a very exploitable resource that they profited greatly from, but it certainly didn’t create organized crime in this country. It was already here long before prohibition.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:36pm
  @Dame.Felis.Catus
  
  Why wouldn’t he? You can pray all you want for health but the almighty dollar actually pays for the doctor.
  
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- Free_Thought
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 4:52pm
  Be like huckabee and just pray that everything works out ok. “We dont have a violence problem. We have a sinning problem.”
  
  Thanks huck. Im sure those prayers will fix the ills our society has.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:03pm
  Nothought – Is that why you hatetheists wait for the government to solve everything?
  
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