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Group’s Push for a ‘Traditional’ Prom Banning Gay Students in Indiana Sparks National Debate

Feb. 15, 2013 6:55am Billy Hallowell

SULLIVAN, Ind. (TheBlaze/AP) — A small Indiana community best known for its parks and corn festival has become the center of a national discussion about intolerance over a group’s plans to host a “traditional” prom that bans gay students.

Residents and officials in Sullivan, a city of about 4,200 near the Illinois border, are scrambling to escape the uncomfortable spotlight cast when a teacher supporting the “traditional” prom for Sullivan High School said she believes people choose to be gay and that gays have no purpose in life.

“I just … I don’t understand it,” Diana Medley, referring to gays, told Terre Haute television station WTWO.

The comments by Medley, a special education teacher in a neighboring school district, have gone viral and sparked online campaigns to have her fired. A petition on Change.org calling for her dismissal had generated more than 17,500 signatures from as far away as the United Kingdom as of Thursday, and a Facebook page supporting a prom that includes all students had more than 27,000 likes.

The fallout has surprised many residents, who say the issue roiling the community in an area known for coal mining and attractive parks is being blown out of proportion.

“We are conservative around here. That’s just the way of this town,” said Nancy Woodard, 60, who owns the Hidden Treasure Exchange store. “In any town in this county, you’ll find four or five churches no matter how small the town. … The Bible is a big belief system here.

“Everybody has jumped on this little town. To me, there isn’t any need for it,” she said.

Groups Plan for a Traditional Prom Banning Gay Students Sparks National Debate

In this Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2013 photo, Sullivan High School principal David Springer poses in the school in Sullivan, Ind. Students and staff at the high school are trying to distance themselves from the media frenzy over one local group’s plea for a “traditional” prom that would ban gay teens. (AP Photo/Pam Engel)

Sullivan High School Principal David Springer said talk of the “traditional” prom began in January, after a student began circulating a petition demanding that gays be allowed to participate in the grand march at Sullivan’s April 27 prom. The “traditional” prom would not be sanctioned by the district and wouldn’t be held at the school.

Springer said the school, which has 545 students in grades 9-12, has never banned same-sex pairs from the event.

“I’ve been to eight grand marches and … we always had girls go out together, and a lot of times they just didn’t have a date,” Springer said. “Our prom is open to all of our students.”

But others say calls for a “traditional” prom, fueled by Medley’s comments, speak to a larger climate in which gay students fear being bullied and aren’t welcome.

“When someone says your kid has no purpose, how do you think that makes a parent feel?” asked Annette Gross, Indiana state coordinator for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG), whose son came out at age 19.

Aaron Gettinger, a 20-year-old Stanford University student who graduated from Sullivan High in 2011, said he isn’t surprised by the push for a “traditional” prom that would ban gay students. He said he was bullied daily because he is gay and encountered viewpoints similar to those espoused by Medley.

“It’s just the way that it is,” he said. “It’s part of a way of thinking that the rest of the country needs to know still exists and goes on.”

Organizers of the “traditional” prom declined to comment, and it’s unclear whether the event will still happen.

School officials and the minister of a church where planners met Sunday have worked to distance themselves from the flap.

Dale Wise, the church’s senior minister at Sullivan First Christian Church, said his church turned off its fax machine and took its website offline Tuesday because both were the target of hate mail and pornographic messages.

Wise said the planning group met at the church because it allows community meetings to take place there but the church “had no affiliation whatsoever” with the “traditional” prom effort.

Springer said his staff has been inundated with calls and emails about Medley, whom he noted doesn’t work for his school. She teaches in the Northeast School Corp., a neighboring district.

Neither Medley nor Northeast officials returned calls seeking comment. The district issued a statement this week saying Medley was “expressing her First Amendment rights” and that “the views expressed are not the views of the Northeast School Corporation and/or the Board of Education.”

Sullivan isn’t alone in its struggles over how to handle same-sex couples at proms. A small southeast Missouri school district is facing a threat of legal action over a policy barring same-sex couples from attending prom together.

The Southern Poverty Law Center on Thursday accused the Scott County Central School District in Sikeston of discrimination and gave the district until Feb. 25 to revise the school dance policy or face a potential lawsuit.

Sullivan High School freshman Te’Airra Walters, 15, said it shouldn’t be a big deal for a same-sex couple to attend prom together. She said she doesn’t like the negative attention the controversy has attracted.

“People from other schools around here are saying Sullivan is trashy,” she said. “I think it’s pretty much ridiculous.”

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J3player
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:46am
The Sodomites (Sodies) want to control our kids. It’s not about being gay. It’s about the Sodomite spirit taking over and controlling our lives.

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- SoNick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:02pm
  please tell us how you’re being “controlled” by a “sodomite”.
  
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- DoseofReality
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:08pm
  youre insane
  
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U4eeeahhh
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:39am
On the subject of is “Gay a Choice?”.

Let’s say it is only a choice, no genetic factors involved, why should that be a barrier to equal civil rights protections? Religious beliefs are specifically enumerated as a protected class in all civil rights laws: Title II of the 1964 Civil Rights Act says “discrimination based on race, color, religion or national origin”. Religion is a choice, no one is “born” a Catholic, there is no Baptist gene, no string of chromosomes that makes one a Muslim yet that CHOICE puts you in a class protected from discrimination. So choice in sexual preferences should also be a valid category for civil rights protections as well. To deny that is simply illogical.

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- spirited
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:13am
  People are no longer hung, imprisioned, tarred n feathered, etc for same-sex anything; in the USA.
  –Who cares???
  
  The blantant, in-your-face….you’re a biggoted, hateful freak if you do not endorse homosexuality is the problem.
  
  Everyone is entitled to an opinion about anything; except, about politics and homosexuality. -lol
  
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- Granny58
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:24am
  OK, that’s fine…point well made. But now there’s a petition for her firing because she doesn’t “think” the way she “should.” As long as she does her job well, then that’s intolerable.
  
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- spirited
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:30am
  That’s like the argument that the right to bear arms is for duck hunting.
  
  People should be (and are free) to love whomever they want –Thankully.
  Even after, how many years (?)… of homosexuality being socially scorned has it continued to thrive?
  Are people less gay if they keep their sexual preference in the bedroom? –No.
  We’re talking about sex; not friendship, not love.
  
  >sex, sex, sex, sex. WHO CARES???
  
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- SLIDELLMAN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:45am
  You wanna know why religion is protected? It’s called the Constitution. Read it.
  
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- zapparules
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:52pm
  SLIDELLMAN…
  Is the Constitution totally perfect?
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:10pm
  Yes, religion is protected in the Constitution..but that also protects me from it. It means you cannot force on me your religious beliefs via laws and legislation. Sorry, we’re not a theocracy. You are free to live in the dark ages and not become enlightened by truth and reason. You’re absolutely right there. I’m sad that you’d want to live thinking there’s some totalitarian God watching your every move and convicting you of thought crimes if you dare question. I guess living in fear is fun for some though.
  
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U4eeeahhh
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:27am
I’m old enough to remember when the issue was black couples and mixed race couples coming to the prom. Then the white separatists held their alternative dances at the country club and boycotted the school dance. Is there any difference? NO.

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- spirited
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:41am
  What does “petition demanding that gays be allowed to participate in the grand march at Sullivan’s April 27 prom” mean –exactly?
  
  Do the gay students want to have a banner specifying “gay” participants?
  Do the gay students want to wear “gay” attire in the grand march?
  If so, then they’re looking for special treatment… recognition…, which distracts from the prom.
  
  If students are being banned simply because they are known to be gay; whithout looking for special attention at the event, then the school is asking for trouble.
  
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- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:54am
  To Spirited – It means that same sex couples can promenade together Didn’t you get to go to a prom?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:14am
  @U4EEEAHHH
  
  “Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:27am
  
  I’m old enough to remember when the issue was black couples and mixed race couples coming to the prom. Then the white separatists held their alternative dances at the country club and boycotted the school dance. Is there any difference? NO.”
  
  This happened decades ago when I was young, and still happens now. Small, poor, rural schools often segregate their proms; the school itself can’t afford a prom, so private groups hold their own. Here’s a story from 2009 about one such situation in Georgia: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24prom-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
  
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- spirited
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:18am
  Solution:
  
  Two gay (physical) males
  escort
  two gay (physical) females
  in the grand march.
  
  Then, interact and dance with their partner of choice.
  
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- SLIDELLMAN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:46am
  And this has nothing to do with skin color. People keep dragging out this old, tired strawman and expect people to buy into it. Sorry, honey, but you are completely full of it.
  
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- rolla020980
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:15pm
  There is a big difference… there is nothing in the bible that states that having sex with another race is a sin (so long as you are married). There are accounts of interracial marriage in the bible. Now homosexuality is expressly forbidden in the bible and accepting it or doing nothing against it is as bad as engaging in the act.
  
  I have said it before and I will say it again… the government should neither recognize or infringe upon religious ideologies. They should not give special treatment to gays and then force Christians to accept them. If you want to hold a “no gays allowed” private party, then so be it. Besides, why do people in the UK care about some tiny town in Indiana?
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:29pm
  It’s called inclusion.
  This “guidance counselor ‘is a whack job and zeal who has openly said
  gay people are worthless.
  
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RLH9125
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:25am
Let them have and hold your own prom. If it is a private party you can invite who you want.

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JeanetteVictoria
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:55am
Homosexuality is a *behavior*, it should not be encouraged. It’s too bad that we as a culture have degenerated so much that unnatural behavior is considered a right. When I was growing up homosexuals bringing same sex partners to a public high school prom was unthinkable; as it should be. A homosexual who wants to go to the prom got a date from a opposite sex partner.

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:00am
  Christianity is a *behavior*, it should not be encouraged. It’s too bad that we as a culture have degenerated so much that unnatural behavior is considered a right.
- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:19am
  Really sad response Jeanette. I’m 60 so I remember too where gay was hidden but I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household that didn’t accept that. My father’s business partner was gay, I grew up around him, his significant other and all their friends. That included my uncle an interior designer, mostly professionals like doctors and businessmen and two race car drivers. My personal style was formed around these men, I got my love of nice clothes, sports cars, many other things from gay guys. A gay man taught me how to ride a motorcycle and that was probably the most formative occurrence in my life [I work in the mc biz and have most of my life, a racer for almost two decades] But I am heterosexual and I spent a childhood around literally dozens of gay men and never once was bothered in any sexual manner. My dad had several gay employees, he owned a group of dental appliance manufacturing labs. I suggest you get to know some gay people.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:23am
  ahh, more sweet reason and tolerance from the Rational Among us.
  
  “When a man talks loudly against religion always suspect that it is not his reason, but his passions that have got the better of his creed.” Tristram Shandy
  
  Scratch a Christian Hater, find a perv.
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:52am
  -doors
  
  This post of yours wins the ‘sarcasm for the day’ award. ‘Behavior?’ Probably by some, but more correctly should be ‘way of life,’ I cant explain here the nuance of this difference- and this difference is light and day, for it opens a door of perception that is hidden from most…..
  
  However, poor behavior with good intentions may be better than good behavior with bad intentions, for we are talking about a matter of the heart. Ms Medley is acting according to the light she has, and she is villified.
  
  She is defending a tradition in her town in which her opponents (overseas??) seek to ban. Seems kind of caustic. She is simply speaking against an unequal yoke. A farmer would not yoke a lamb with a cow-the lambs neck would break in an instant. This is her opinion, she knows there will be feedback, and she knows the prom is an ancillary issue.
  
  There are a lot of good people who happen to agree with her.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:55am
  U4eeeahhh
  Oh what a nice childhood you paint. Only if we could see those moments that you have suppressed that weren’t so nice, that were done in secret.
  
  I have no desire to hang-out with H0mosexuals that have embraced this perverted lifestyle . Just like I don’t want to hang-out with some Alcoholic, that sits at a bar drinking his life away. I will not enable them nor encourage such behavior that in the end will only destroy them.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:01am
  @Hoot
  
  Another humble christian. Only I know the REAL truth. Sick
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:21am
  Doors ,Your perception is skewed …Just like the lifestyle you advocate. Typical.
  
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- SLIDELLMAN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:51am
  @U4eeeahhh Awesome! That makes you a 60-year-old moron! I can’t wait for you to start giving the same arguments for pedophiles (and if you don’t think that’s going to happen, but you are defending the “right” for open homosexuals to join the Boy Scouts, then you already are defending pedophiles).
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:23am
  Christanity seems to breed hate and ignorance from the comments and actions described in this article.
- catty
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 3:27pm
  Are you 100?
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:41pm
  U4:
  
  Thank you for posting. If more people actually got to know a few gay people, they would realize that we are just like straight people (but usually better dressed! :p). All of the ignorant and homophobic posters on here would learn a lot by having someone gay in their lives.
  
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- N37BU6
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:40pm
  If your sexuality is a choice, then when did you decide to be heterosexual?
  
  I never decided to be straight.
  
  So much for that argument…
  
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- BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:36pm
  No one can refute the fact that homosexuality is unnatural: meaning it goes against nature. If you are homosexual or are a homosexual sympathizer and want to say this is wrong- go ahead. You are only lying to yourself. Bottom line, if you are only attracted to the same sex, perhaps you should take this as a sign that you are being called to lead a life of celibacy.
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:53pm
  How does homosexuality go against nature? Homosexuality is found in many other species, it have been with humans since the dawn of humanity, and is still around today, so it is clearly not detrimental to the species at all. Explain please just how homosexuality is unnatural.
  
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Southernsoul
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:47am
If this is a public school funded by public tax dollars then all students should be allowed to attend the prom. If they want to have a private prom fubded by private dollars, then they can exclude whoever they wish.

As far as the ‘gay’ comments on here, I can’t believe how ignorant so many of the people on here are. From a Libertarian point of view, I don’t see how someone else’s sexuality affects you. What does bother me is the way that ‘gays’ what to flaunt their sexuality.

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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:49am
  Great post, I fully agree (and just to clarify; this IS a private group offering to put on a separate prom, not the school itself. However, it was one of the school’s teachers who is spear-heading the effort).
  
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- sapper
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:04am
  hey dumba$$….the principle said the traditional prom would not be held by the school. In other words the folks who are sick of the gays want to have their own damned prom somewhere else and to hell with the stupid government funded school. So screw you and all like you who want to force your homosex agenda on the rest of us. Gays are 2 percent of society. Why the hell should we bow to their agenda. I’m sick and damned tired of it. They are well capable of going to the prom at the school..even with their “partner”. Gays can serve in the military now….which is why all branches are experiencing massive recruiting and retention problems as I predicted. Soon you will be protected by girls and girl wannabees. Thanks a bunch for that you liberal morons. I’ve got a news flash for you. Most straight men DO NOT want to share a shower, foxhole, pup tent or get a blood transfusion from a gay man. If you don’t like that I don’t really care. That’s reality, kiss my a$$
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:18am
  Southy and Locked.
  And thus the Libertarians miss another golden opportunity to KEEP the discussion on Private vs Public grounds and thus build bridges to the “Religious” Conservatives. Majoring on Majors and leaving Minors on the back burner, but no, suddenly the BEHAVIORAL issue, instead of the Proper Role of Government, becomes the focus.
  
  Which is what I “don’t see” about you “Libertarians”.
  
  You BEGIN to “get” it, Southy when you say: “What does bother me is the way that ‘gays’ what to flaunt their sexuality.” On the NOSE (pun?) Southy! Nobody would CARE if they kept it between their own pervert sheets!
  But they REFUSE don’t they? Have you ASKED the NEXT LOGICAL QUESTION WHY?
  THIS should have TOLD you (supposed) LIBERTYians something:
  “The comments by Medley…have sparked online campaigns to have her fired. A petition on Change.org calling for her dismissal had generated more than 17,500 signatures from as far away as the United Kingdom.”
  This ISN’T about “rights” or “fairness” or “tolerance” or “equality”. This is about SILENCING, SILENCING–you’d think that would PISZ OFF “Libertarians” people who REFUSE to affirm what they believe to be a Debauched, Depraved and Degenerate IDOLATRY! It’s about SILENCING anyone who dares say: “That ain’t RIGHT!”
  
  And Locked as LONG as your “however it was one of the School’s teachers who was spearheading the effort” is CLARIFICATION to Distinguish you a
  
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- jwpowers41
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:25am
  The homosexuals who brought AIDS to the usa and spread it like wild fire you mean that group
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:26am
  to Locked cont.
  “a clarification to distinquish responsibility you are on safe ground. The SECOND you imply, however, that a PUBLIC School Employee has NO RIGHT to Organize a Private Effort based on Her Faith Principles you have CEASED to be in any way “libertarian”.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:43am
  @The Big Mick
  
  Wow, calm the heck down. Yes, I was distinguishing that a private group has every right to hold their own prom. Antagonistic much? I’ll pray for you.
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:55pm
  As a gay man, it offends me how straight people flaunt their sexuality in public. I see straight couple holding hands, sitting alone together in restaurants, even wearing wedding rings to show the whole world that they are straight!!!! Honestly, keep it in the bedroom! I don’t need to know who you have sex with!
  
  This is the same argument you are making against gays flaunting their sexuality. If this sounds ridiculous, it is; just as ridiculous as your arguments.
  
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InfiniteSolutions
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:31am
I agree with Diana Medley, being gay is a choice and not something you are born with. There may be some cases that are biological but I agree that environment and conditions are big factors in making the choice to be gay or not. I’m glad someone is saying it too. Especially since science contradicts this argument which I don’t agree with the science. Something else to consider is men are getting more femmine and where are the studies for that, such as the food we eat and the environmental conditions, the hormones added to foods and environmental chemicals, be it in our water or over the counter drugs, contraband, steriods, drugs legal or not and prescriptions. And, I don’t believe the gay agenda should change our traditions either. I don’t agree with the gay culture and if you don’t like too bad. I’m not a ****-phobe and I hope you are not a hetero-phobe. Heed my advice and realize that our food, environmental and social conditions are being manipulated and forming your opinion. Both chemical affects, visual, sound, and MSM prorgamming the sheep, and other programs to desensitize our understanding of what a Man and Woman represents is destroying our culture. We are on the road to destruction and this is only one aspect of deterioration of our socail fabric. Our culture is be underminded by hidden agendas and evil, watch you back.

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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:47am
  Seek truth!
  What is the “TRUTH”?
  The “Way”?
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:24am
  Nutboy, are you seriously arguing there IS no such thing as “Truth”?
  Helluva way to run a Rational Universe, ain’t it?
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:21pm
  You can agree all you want. Science and research proves you wrong.
  
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:30am
end it now send them to the Mid east where most live

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john vincent
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:29am
Ms Medley will be crushed by the msm for her opinion. If the leftists were truly freedom loving people, and tolerant as they say, her views should be welcome.

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- CanadaRocks
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:44am
  As well she should. Discrimination needs to be eradicated. This is one of the steps leading up to that happening.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:57am
  @JOHNVINCENT
  
  I agree with you.
  
  In this country, you have the right to be wrong.
  
  Both ends if the spectrum, right and left, seem to want to punish, exclude, ostracize, and fire anyone who has a different opinion than them.
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:58am
  cmon canada
  
  you are better than that. We discriminate every day: who to talk to, who to avoid, where to eat, where not to eat, ad in;
  
  the ‘mens’ glee club discriminiates- the ‘girl’ scouts discriminate. According to your logic, there should be no
  
  -mens rooms
  -no girl scouts
  -’womans day’ magazine
  
  the list and argument is endless. She has the right to discriminate as do you; granted, others have the right to argue against her, but she is told ‘to accept’ that which she despises- one cant make that leap in a healthy debate
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:01am
  DISCRIMINATE
  transitive verb
  1
  a : to mark or perceive the distinguishing or peculiar features of
  b : distinguish, differentiate
  2 to distinguish by discerning or exposing differences; especially : to distinguish from another like object
  
  Discrimination is good. It keeps you alive. I can name the genetics behind every difference between an African & a Caucasian and show that they are beneficial (that means good Canada_Rocks in case you were stumped). From kinky ****, to skin color to genes that lead to “hypertension” I can show where they are adaptive & keep people alive.
  
  I cannot do so for homosexuality.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:37am
  SeeRocks.
  And your effort to Silence those who have Moral and Theological reasons for regarding Homosex as a Debauched, Depraved, and Degenerate Idolatry are NOT “discriminatory” exactly HOW?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:37am
  Remember_Benghazi
  
  Troll, you do not want to know about BenGhazi as I can tell by your last 10 uniformly mocking posts.. You just think it is funnier than heII that people are concerned about it.
  
  A Green Beret’s In-Depth Analysis of ‘Benghazi: The Definitive Report’
  
  Read more: http://sofrep.com/17331/in-depth-analysis-of-benghazi-the-definitive-report/#ixzz2KyhGBuNY
  
  As far as stoning is concerned, once again you are talking the Bible out of context. First it is not Christian. In Christianity the New Testament is operative.. It probably is not even Jewish law. They have 5 books you know & you are only passingly familiar with one of them. It pretty much means that you are ignorant & you FAIL!
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:40am
  oooh walkabout,
  interesting! scientific rationality. What Doormouse would aspire to if he wasn’t so flamin passionate about Prhomoism.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:30am
  @Walkabout another illinformed, foaming at the mouth Christian Beckerhead. The Bible is an out date book that simple minds like yourself, rape its words to justify your bigotry.
  
  As for Libya, facts and truth mean little to the mindless sheep that Beck and others have trained to believe the conspiracy theories.
- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:51am
  encinom
  
  Read the article that I linked. It gave me pause, when I read the name Mike Vickers. You might remember that name from the movie Charlie Wilson’s War. Well you might. Or you might just remember that Tom Hanks & Julia Roberts starred in the movie & that is it.
  
  With Mike Vickers on board I expect Assad to be gone before next year arrives. What I don;t know is what happens after that. It will affect more than just Syria or Syria & Israel.
  
  Qatar has its’ hands everywhere. There are Qatari special forces in Syria. Qatar also sent a few planes to rescue jihadis from French Forces in Mali. that should give you pause. I know it won’t but you should WTF up.
  
  After Assad falls I expect Al Qaeda to put more pressure on the Iraqi government at least in Anbar province. What it means I don’t exactly know. At the very least Anbar could be ungoverned apace. That does not exactly help world peace. Quite the opposite.
  
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:27am
any group has the right to stop some people from joining. would you let the devil in your Church???? think about this, gays are trying to force America to love them. They want to spread their sickness to all. let them start their own group and spread the filth…..

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- walnutportconservative
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:35am
  Theres my friend SAFF SGT!
  Sad, but a judge, probably from another state, will ultimately make the decision, as to what these locals must do. On the subject of who can lead in a given organization? Look at the BSA.
  
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- EndTheGOPTEA
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:57pm
  Gay Sex Is Fun.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:59pm
  Equal treatment doesn’t equate to forced love.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:07pm
  Yup, I’d happily let the devil in my church…of course, I don’t go to church, so I think for myself, and the Devil doesn’t exist, so hey… The Dark Ages are over. Time to put the pitch forks and torches away, and realize we have scientific method and facts to determine things. God, at least as far as any man made religion claims to understand the concept, doesn’t exist. If there is some sort of higher power, I’m sure it could care less who we sleep with, how we sleep with them, what we wear, and what we say or do.
  
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whater39
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:25am
Screw your book of Fiction. It’s just a book of non-sense. How about some real morals? You know common sense. How about this “do onto others, how you would have them do onto you”.

So don’t be a jackass

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- Evan B
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:52am
  Calling the Bible “a book of fiction” is very close minded. There are numerous parts of the Bible that have been historically proven.
  
  As far as being gay. From a scientific standpoint how can someone be born gay? If it was genetic it would have been weeded out by natural selection. Homosexuals can not procreate. That makes it a choice. I love the country I live in and have no problem with a person making that choice for them self. My problem is with the gay community fighting for everyone else to accept their choice and lifestyle.
  
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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:50am
  @Evan: Natural selection is quite a bit more complex than that; there are a number of qualities that are selected for that have little to do with reproduction and even some factors that would favor non-reproducing members in a kin group.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:42am
  Some of the qualities selected are fatal and are not good for an individual. Genetics is messy & an imperfect process. People can get 2 copies of a gene variant, allele, that normally protects a person from cholera. But when they get 2 copies they die after leading a miserable life. Same for sickle cell. We correct these defects. If we found such a gene for gay people, the CALM Voice of Reason would strenuously & frenetically object. Heck The now UnCalm Voice of Reason would become pro-Life.
  
  BTW you still have not found the gay gene(s). There are approximately 37,000 genes in the human genome. So many of them have been studied. You are running out of time.
  
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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:54pm
  @Walkabout: Why do you assume I’m not already pro-life?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:55am
  “From a scientific standpoint how can someone be born gay? If it was genetic it would have been weeded out by natural selection.”
  
  That is not strictly true. There is the theory that “women liking men” selects for a trait that also causes homosexuality. I have not seen a lot on that theory lately. I saw it in Marginal Revolutions blog.
  
  I followed the links & copied the study because it is the best & only genetic explanation that I have seen. I have seen the brain scan evidence. But that leaves much out such as causality & normal variation. It was a small study. Being gay could have more than one cause including some people choosing it. Some cause could be societal pressure. That would make gays “victims”. As far as the choice aspect, Marginal Revolutions has proved/shown that one with numbers.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:45pm
  It’s a book of theories to explain the unexplainable to humans in the Bronze age.
  Let’s just say those ‘theories’ are hopelessly out of date and not supported by 2,000 of scientific study.
- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:00pm
  Verce of UnReason
  
  Modern Chemistry started about 2 or 3 centuries ago. Where is the 2,000 year march you talk about. Many of the early chemists were alchemists.
  
  Further knowing how laws of nature as well as we do is a very recent phenomena. Knowledge of human relations is not such a new thing. Freedom slavery & various forms & government come & go like a Celtic wheel of life & death.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:37pm
  Alchemy bumbled into Chemistry. Alchemy is just as useful as…well…the Bible. Not at all.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:58pm
  It is a work of fiction. There’s nothing closed minded about facts. Very little has any historical correlation. Just because the writers occasionally added in there some sites that have a historical counterpart and well known names of those time periods, doesn’t mean it’s not a work of fiction. I read a lot of fiction, many of those books use real life places and people in them as background for the book. Is that now factually accurate then?
  
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- justsayin456
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:42pm
  Boosh.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:16am
To be fair…They should set aside another day for kids with special needs and mental disabilities .

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:29am
  They do every week in church’s nationwide, it’s called Sunday.
- john vincent
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:51am
  hey doors-
  
  please show /explain/ to those of us who are retarded in thought how to do the following:
  
  -design a finger in the lab using nothing
  -toss an iron into the water and watch it float
  -design the blueprints for an oak tree
  -design the acorn
  -give sight to a man who never saw the color blue
  and to add insult to injury, let us see how you plan on holding on to your last breath, given to you freely by..whom???
  
  and, oh by the way doors, in your advanced intellect, what could you possibly give in exchange for your sins?
  
  -back on point, since you took the boat off course, the young lady is defending a tradition in which people in her town happen to agree.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:59am
  (back)Door of Reception 8:29
  
  Ahh, nothing like the clean, clear, unbiased air of Sweat Reasonable Open Mindedness from the Truly Rational, eh, Doorman? So much more Tolerant of others’ belief systems than the Person of Faith, right?
  ‘course the stench of stale elimination and fresh insemination (we ARE talking about ideas, right?) does mar it some.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:06am
  First: I was only responding to Toot Owl for comparing homosexuals to people with mental disabilities. Duh.
  
  Second: She can say and believe whatever she wants. She could believe that her baby daddy is Elvis, he is still alive!!! Fine, but she will pay a much deserved public price for holding idiotic beliefs. That’s what happens with idiotic beliefs and misunderstandings of how the cosmos operate…they eventually get laughed out of public discourse. No violence needed.
- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:13am
  Big Mick,
  
  Oh so mature…you should try and read the tolerant post I was responding to(amazing, that is two so far, see John Vincent, it’s only intolerent if I mock the mental capabilities of someone but not hoot owl. blind much?). Maybe you missed it while you were surfing gay porn. See I can make “you are gay” jokes too. You’re are a joke…I don’t even know why I am responding to you most of your posts are unintelligible and schizophrenic.
- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:29am
  This current society has ‘defined’ different personality disorders .
  
  They have gone a far as describing ‘how some people that suffer from these disorders’ .
  
  ‘Suffer from being in complete denial‘. Just like Alcoholism ..
  
  H0mosexuality is a ‘disease of choice‘.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:33am
  If a man says something you don’t understand, Doormouth, ask him what he means.
  Are you arguing that you flaming religious people to Hoot is 1. JUSTIFIED by his comment. But mine to you is NOT justified by yours? 2. Is a PRIVATE conversation off limits to others on the thread?
  3. That you really aren’t an Anti-Religious BIGOT!?
  
  As Samuel Johnson (you DO know who HE is, right? No googling now!) once said: “I have found you an argument, sir, I am not obliged to furnish you an understanding.”
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:43am
  Hoot Owl,
  
  Prove it.
- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:48am
  “Are you arguing that you flaming religious people to Hoot is 1. JUSTIFIED by his comment. But mine to you is NOT justified by yours?”
  
  @Big Mick
  
  Salmanders have hooves far is to flame as cold water to ice is 1. CLAMS by fiat. But cornerstone hard tack make sandwiches soft?
- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:21am
  Doors.
  A Hom0sexual has to completely disregard the Bible and the forgiveness of sins .Because ‘they believe’ their lifestyle is not a sin.
  
  They would have to CHANGE Christianity to a different religion.
  That excepts their perversion ,so they continue this behavior with-out guilt.
  
  OR .If they don’t believe in GOD. Then they answer Only to MANS LAW .
  And with no eternal consequences they are only concerned with the consequences of this life.
  
  In order to change a society to except their lifestyle .
  
  First The ‘H0mosexual community ‘must CHANGE Christianity.
  
  BUT
  Christianity says
  ALL wages of SIN is death.
  
  Christianity says …
  H0mosexuality is a SIN ..
  
  Christianity says
  That H0mosexuality Is NOT acceptable to GOD
  
  Christianity says
  That H0mosexuality is a ABOMINATION.
  
  Christianity says ..
  If a H0mosexual dies Justifying their sinful lifestyle . and choose to NOT repent of this abomination . They will spend eternity in hell.
  
  SO… Either h0mosexuals don’t believe in God
  And ‘Through the deception of tolerance’ , are trying to undermine my faith, because Christianity doesn’t except HOM0SEXUALITY and everything that lifestyle introduces to a culture.
  
  OR They are fools…Trying to justify SIN in GODS eyes.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:40am
  Hoot,
  
  Can you read? I said prove it. In case you forgot what you said…
  
  “This current society has ‘defined’ different personality disorders .
  
  They have gone a far as describing ‘how some people that suffer from these disorders’ .
  
  ‘Suffer from being in complete denial‘. Just like Alcoholism ..
  
  H0mosexuality is a ‘disease of choice‘.”
- SLIDELLMAN
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:09pm
  @The_Doors_Of_Perception So far you have shown the biggest “special needs” person ’round these parts is you. And you are determined to keep that impression loud and clear. So please continue.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:31pm
  How so? Give me some substance…you’re statement means nothing without it.
- encinom
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:07pm
  @Hoot the Ignorant
  
  “Christianity says …
  H0mosexuality is a SIN ..
  
  Christianity says
  That H0mosexuality Is NOT acceptable to GOD
  
  Christianity says
  That H0mosexuality is a ABOMINATION.
  
  Christianity says ..
  If a H0mosexual dies Justifying their sinful lifestyle . and choose to NOT repent of this abomination . They will spend eternity in hell.”
  
  Actually there is disagreement among the various Christan sects. Some are marring gay couples and ordaining gay ministers. So its only bigoted sects that pick and choose what out of date laws to follow that have your views.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:19pm
  Doors.# 2 and #3
  Dis-ease
  NOUN
  1.
  medical condition: a condition in humans, plants, or animals that results in pathological symptoms and is not the direct result of physical injury
  2.
  >>specific disorder: a disorder in humans, animals, or plants with recognizable signs and often having a known cause <>> problem in society: a serious problem in society or with a group of people <<<
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:42pm
  I didn’t need definitions for what you THINK homosexuality is…I need proof from you that that IS what homosexuality is.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 2:45pm
  Of course it shouldn’t suprise me that somone who believes a supernatural space deity wrote a book on earth as a timeless guide to life, doesn’t understand what proof is.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:01pm
  Doors
  Un-natural
  
  ADJECTIVE
  1.
  contrary to expected behavior: contrary to habit, custom, or practice
  “an unnatural tense silence between them”
  2.
  not conforming to conventions: behaving in ways that contradict conventional assumptions about what constitutes normal or acceptable human behavior
  3.
  artificial: affected, artificial, contrived, or strained
  “an unnatural festive atmosphere”
  4.
  contrary to laws of nature:
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Doors . ..Did you notice # 4
  
  4. contrary to laws of nature:
  
  Homosexuality …IS BREAKING THE LAW..!
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:49pm
  Hoot: how is being gay against the laws of nature? Gays keep being born, and homosexuality is found in a large number of species, so it seems very natural to me.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:54pm
  Harry
  They are not born that way. it’s a un-natural act and a perversion of nature.
  
  If their was only Homosexuals and they stayed absolutely true to their perversion.
  They would become extinct.
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:07pm
  Hoot:
  What makes you say that? I am gay, and I can tell you I certainly was born this way. Ask any gay person you know, and I bet they’ll say the same thing. If its a choice, when did you choose to be straight?
  
  And we have the ability to have children without sex. Plenty of gay couples have children through sperm donors, surrogate mothers, etc. sex is no longer necessary for procreation. Besides, if everyone on Earth was a woman, humans would go extinct. By your logic, women are unnatural.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:41am
  Harry
  So what your saying is Homosexuals have been ‘jumping the fence’ doing their duty, for centuries to further being born that way. up until advances in modern medicine made it so it’s no longer necessary . Really..?
  How old were you when you ‘knew’ you had the gay gene..?
  How can you know you were born that way ..?
  When the doctor slapped you on your behind ,when you were born ,did he say ‘it’s a boy’ and oh, by the way …he’s gay.?
  
  No, This is one more attempt to legitimize a unnatural behavior.
  
  What a angle .This kind of reminds me of the ‘Global Warming theory’ .
  When they had to change their strategy for their cause. .to ‘climate change’
  
  Just because we have declared in this country. That if it’s between two consenting adults .
  
  That it somehow gives this lifestyle ‘moral legitimacy’ and thereby verify’s Homosexuality as ‘natural‘ .And that it’s just not so .
  
  AND THERE’S THE RUB..!
  
  Nobody can prove this myth you were ‘born that way‘.
  
  How were you born with a DESIRE .?
  
  That’s why it so important for the Homosexuals to invade the sanctity of marriage.
  
  NOT for the bond that marriage is between a couple .
  
  But for the ‘symbol ‘…!
  
  To give homosexuality ‘validity’ to the world ,that it is NATURAL.
  
  Not every desire is to acted upon.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:57pm
  @ hoot If it’s so unnatural, then why does it occur in thousands of species all over the world? If it’s genetic, which all evidence points to it being, then it is completely natural. Sorry, magic fairy tale books written by groups of superstitious people trying to explain how things go in the world don’t apply to today’s world where we can study the science and get the facts.
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Hoot:
  If by jumping the fence, you mean gay people having sex with women, that is a very separate issue. If you think only gay people can have gay children, you do not understand genetics. There are recessive genes, dormant genes, some that need certain sequences to become active, etc. straight couple have gay children every day. I was merely pointing out that gay couples can certainly have children.
  
  As for when I knew I was gay, I would say around when puberty hit. I was never attracted to women, no matter how much I wanted to be. I obviously did not know I was gay as a young child, because I did not have a concept of what being gay was, and had no sexual thoughts yet. But I can still look back and see signs from my childhood that pointed to me being gay. If you seriously think you can choose your sexual orientation, try it. Change yours for a day. I’m not saying have sex, but spend the day attracted to the same gender.
  
  And what makes homosexuality immoral in your eyes? I could point out a number of holes in the Bible argument, but what about those who are not Christian? I do not consider the Bible to be perfect, and so the book holds little weight for me. Which leads us to the consent issue, if 2 adults are consenting, why is it immoral. And more importantly, why do you even care?
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:14pm
  Hoot, the bible also says you should be stoned to death for wearing a mixed blend of fibers…sure hope you’re not wearing anything with a polyester blend!
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 5:46am
  Homosexuals can live any way you want it’s a free country .
  But as we witnessed here. Homosexuals are not happy with just that .
  
  What I have witnessed here is one type of Hom0sexual that will use any and all tactics to convert someone to except his lifestyle as Normal.
  
  The second type resorts to hostility mockery and hate speech,
  when confronted someone that will not conform (roll over).
  ( the second type I would classify: Sue into submission. )
  
  A Homosexual can argue all they want .They can try and reason and make excuses , with all the honed logic that they have spent night and day to rehearse , to state their case.
  
  I would not be surprised if there was a website that taught conversion tactics. On how to defend and promote the Homosexual lifestyle and how to put the person your talking to on the defensive.
  
  But at the end of the day. The real problem is we’re not going to live forever .And I’m not the judge over our souls , God is.
  
  And just so we are clear …[[[ GOD ]]] is the ultimate authority.
  And We ALL will have to answer [[[ GOD ]]] for our own lives .!
  
  I hope everyone at least can see that. If not You will someday.
  
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:07am
Banning gays or any other characteristic from a group is called the “right to free assembly”, the very fact that domestic enemies of the US Constitution participate in bullying tactics such as hate mail, only underscore why this group should have the freedom of the right to assemble their like minded opinion in spite of what others think about it?

Just because you are gay, or any other characteristic, does not mean that people are forced to like you, or even want to be around you, otherwise you would not have the right to assemble, and you would not have a 1st amendment?

This is just another page in the history books screaming at us that the public school system is for an era long gone, that parents are going to have to educate their own children, especially when every little thing offends the children just because they are not asked to participate?

Get used to it?

No, Kommy Care at 4 years old is not the answer?

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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:23am
  @Media
  
  “Just because you are gay, or any other characteristic, does not mean that people are forced to like you, or even want to be around you, otherwise you would not have the right to assemble, and you would not have a 1st amendment?”
  
  Take this sentence, and write “anti-gay” instead of “gay.” See how it cuts both ways? No one is denying that these folks CAN do this; the government is not sweeping in to arrest anyone. But the freedom to assemble does not mean freedom from consequence and criticism from non-governmental sources.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:48am
  Locked
  
  There is sure to be a lawsuit.
  
  If they hold a “prom” off campus & do not attend the official prom, then what will you do?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:58am
  @Walk
  
  “There is sure to be a lawsuit.”
  
  Over what? A private group can do whatever it wants off-campus.
  
  “If they hold a “prom” off campus & do not attend the official prom, then what will you do?”
  
  “I” won’t do anything. I’ve already said, several times, that the non-school group has every right to do what they want. We had a very similar case to this a couple years ago with Constance McMillen, who wanted to bring a female Prom date; the school allowed it, and in response local Christian groups held a straight-only Prom off-campus. And they were lambasted for it.
  
  Again – they had every right to do so, but that doesn’t mean they won’t take flak for it.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:28am
  Locked
  Again – they had every right to do so, but that doesn’t mean they won’t take flak for it.
  ***
  
  No not really. There will be lawsuits. It will be like a private club. Associations will be made & deals struck. So sooner or later gays will be asking to get in.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:14am
  @Walkabout
  
  “There will be lawsuits.”
  
  I repeat: over what? I enjoy some doomsaying as much as the next guy, but you’re being awfully vague here.
  
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Walkabout
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:06am
They still have found the gay gene(s). Before Foxnews revamped a their comment section, you would pretty much get the reply “What difference does it make!”.

I subscribe to multiple theories on why people are gay. One is the confusion theory. Read that one in a psych book. Another is that society makes gays via bullying & establishing a pecking order. Get a group of animals together & if they are not particularly spiritual or philosophical, you will get a pecking order established.

Now if gays are “made”, wouldn’t they want to know the truth? I think it is harmful to society as a whole & gays in particular to be so ignorant.

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RIGS
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:06am
Simple solution have two proms just choose which one you want to attend………………..

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Gonzo
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:01am
No, they are going to have to prove it. Encinom is the judge.

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The-Monk
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00am
Gay or not… there will still be a quart of Captain Morgan in the punch….

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- lefty5005
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:22am
  Monk, could you help me with my monk in Diablo 3 (sarc)
  We put vodka in my senior year proms punch…1975…
  Sounds like a town I might want to live in
  I always said Indiana is misplaced and should be further south. We could replace
  New Mexico with Indiana.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:38am
  We put a little punch in our Vodka.
  
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- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:03am
  Virginia circa 1969-70, we favored Everclear Grain Alcohol to give the punch some punch.
  
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- sparkyrules
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:10am
  Lefty5005.No way should we move Indiana.Its the only decent state up here.
  
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alrunner58
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:53am
I hope this school doesn’t cave. “Tradition” is getting attacked everyday and we have go to stand together. Just remember, this doesn’t stop with the gays so its got to be addressed now.

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- wilsonj72
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:03am
  Wait! Wait! Here it comes the same old tried speech from the White House.
  
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- HarryPotter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:41pm
  Exactly! First they made us get rid of slavery, even though that was our tradition in the south, and then they made us give black people equal rights too, even though “whites only” was our tradition. They did the same this with women too, and now they want to make gays equal? Respect our traditions!
  
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The-Monk
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:50am
Morning East…..

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The-Monk
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:44am
What is the difference between the physical and the Spiritual?

Life itself, the physical, relies on separation. The splitting of cells to divide, grow and multiply. To reproduce if you can call it. In a Monk’s World, the Spiritual relies on non-separation. Separation is division and division is conflict. This is always true in the Spiritual World but also necessary in the physical world. The physical world is not the Spiritual World. The two will never meet or interact with each other. It’s just impossible. Being “gay” is just another way to enforce separation and division and to try to end the balance of Life…. the Ying and Yang for you hippy types.

Separation and division will never heal or solve any problem. This is a fact. “What something is, is what it extends”. This is a Law and cannot be refuted.

If you want a balance between the physical and the Spiritual you cannot be gay. It’s just so wrong on every level.

BTW…. one of my favorite posters here is Lesbian Packing Hollow Points. : )

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- naughtycal
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:58am
  Agreed,
  When there is a disease the first step in stopping it is quarantine it. Homosexuality is a mental disease not different than alcohol addiction,or drug addiction. It’s a disease that people willing cause upon themselves. And while I do believe that homosexuality should be tolerated it should also be shameful and ridiculed as long as it doesn’t involve physically attacking gays. To embrace it will only further it’s membership sort of like how embrace thug rap as only furthered the thuglifers community.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:45am
  This is what you must know:
  
  “Separation and division will never heal or solve any problem . . . If you want a balance between the physical and the Spiritual you cannot be gay. It’s just so wrong on every level.”
  
  Yes, yes, if you want dry toast, butter it.
  
  It is so.
- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:20pm
  The difference is, the Spiritual is play pretend. The Physical is reality. People chose to embrace illogical and irrational belief and use it as a reason to oppress things that scare them or they are afraid of what they might truly feel. I’d be willing to bet a majority of the anti gay posts on here with all the religious nonsense in their posts are all self hating, closeted homosexuals that are so miserable with their own existence and cowardice that they have to try to make all those that have embraced who they are as miserable as they are.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:34am
“The “traditional” prom would not be sanctioned by the district and wouldn’t be held at the school.” It’s a private party. Key word being PRIVATE. You can have a private black prom, Hispanic prom, Asian prom, gay prom, straight prom, white prom…anything you want, it’s private. Get over it.

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- spirited
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:03am
  Ellen Degeneres and Steve Martin both ‘dated’ Anne Heche.
  
  Is Anne Heche gay?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:24am
  SPIRITED, Sorry, but I just can’t help but make a joke here. Too good of a set up.
  How could Anne Heche be happy about dating either of those two?
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:33am
  No…but Steve Martin is.
  
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limalimamike
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:16am
I find it hard, as a member of the human race, to support a group of fellow humans whose choice, if becomes wildly popular, would spell the end of our species.

Think about that.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32am
  Are you talking about heroin addicts?
  
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- ThreefingeredGus
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:59am
  So all these other mammals make the same “choice”..
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:09am
  ” The veterans learn that to curb overpopulation, which led to worldwide class wars caused by inequitable rationing, homosexuality has become officially encouraged by many of the world’s nations. ”
  - The Forever War
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:12am
  ThreefingeredGus
  
  So let’s study these animals instead of taking your smug word for it.
  
  Like when the male of a mated pair of ducks dies, and a male form a “homosexual” pair leaves his partner & joins the female duck. What do you make of that? Maybe the “homosexual” ducks didn’t want to be gay but were making the best of the situation the only way they knew how.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:15am
  Then there are the 2 species of lizards whose ranges overlap. The male of one species tries to copulate with the male of the other species which have the same coloration as females of their species.
  
  So is this true homosexuality or confusion?
  
  Gus does not want to know. It might cause him to question his beliefs.
  
  -DT
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:18am
  @East
  
  Hahaha, I almost spit out my coffee!
  
  @Limalimamike
  
  You honestly think that other students are going to “catch the gay” if homosexual students are not ostracized by overprotective parents? Homosexuality is an extremely uncommon feature in humanity, and judging by the boom of world population in the past several decades, I don’t think humans are in any danger of dying out!
  
  If it reassures you any, medical advances effectively mean that even if we had a 100% homosexual population, procreation could still occur.
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:27am
  3fing-
  
  -the white albino deer is thought to be a pariah among the whitetail herd-
  
  it is not normal, is a freak of nature, and has a hard time finding a mate, the reason is obvious-
  
  your post about nature being akin to the animal acts of humans actually disproves your point
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:28am
  Your comment would make sense if “gay” was contagious. If you people would only educate yourselves you wouldn’t look stupid…I would start with statistics in this case.
- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:44am
  @Walkabout
  
  “So let’s study these animals instead of taking your smug word for it…
  
  …ducks… lizards…”
  
  You don’t seem to be studying the animals that were linked by @threefingeredgus, as neither ducks nor lizards are mammals.
  
  “So is this true homosexuality or confusion?”
  
  Seems to be confusion on your part?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:48am
  Can gay be contagious? How many position are there in the pecking order?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:52am
  We need medical advance to keep from dying.
  
  Reading up on Haldeman, I came across Isaac Asimov’s biography. He contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion during heart surgery and died same as Arthur Ashe.
  
  LGBT 2
  Normal People 0
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:56am
  Locked”I have seen the list.
  
  I have also continued reading in science mags unlike yourself it seems. You arguments were without merit.
  
  Maybe we should be more like mallards. If animals do it then it is okay for us to do it.
  
  Mallards engage in mass rape flights.
  
  Locked are you pro-rape?
  
  3 Fingers made the argument that we found animal doing it so it is okay for people to do it.
  
  And LOCKED is good with that argument. It say a lot about LOCKED.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:13am
  @Walkabout
  
  “Maybe we should be more like mallards. If animals do it then it is okay for us to do it.”
  
  Who said this? Certainly not I.
  
  “Mallards engage in mass rape flights.”
  
  Point?
  
  “Locked are you pro-rape?”
  
  Nope. Are you? You just suggested maybe we should be more like mallards.
  
  “3 Fingers made the argument that we found animal doing it so it is okay for people to do it.”
  
  Also false. He asked if it was a choice, as other mammals do it. YOU (and limalimamike) said it was a choice.
  
  “And LOCKED is good with that argument. It say a lot about LOCKED.”
  
  And you suggested we that maybe should be like mallards and engage in mass rape. Says a lot about you.
  
  See? Fallacies are fun!
  
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- Granny58
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:40am
  @3finger – I’m not entirely sure your wiki article describes true homosexuality. From what I read there, it describes either a hormonal imbalance resulting in heightened aggression, a generalized “if it feels good do it” scene, or perhaps an unrecognized biological urge (protein in semen being eaten, identification or similarily being brought into estruce by urine being smelled). Unless there is a case of anal penetration and same-sex pair bonding, I am not convinced this characterizes homosexuality in nature the same as human homosexuality. Still open to learning though, so respond if you can.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:47am
  Mr or Ms LIMALIMAMIKE,
  
  This is what you must know:
  
  OK, thought about it. You can only mean priests, nuns, other celibates, barren women and seedless men.
  
  Yeah, who needs em?
  
  it is so.
- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:31am
  3 Fingered Gus reasoned that there are examples of animal homosexuality there human homosexuality is acceptable.
  
  One could change the act to rape & use the same logic to conclude that rape is acceptable. Or Necrophilia for that matter.
  
  A biologists observed a male duck getting it on with a dead male duck. It shocked him. He figured what was the point. The dead duck had flow into a window & broke its’ neck. It happens. But is was the 1st time he saw necrophilia in ducks.
  
  What a great line. Animals do it it, so why shouldn’t humans.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:46am
  @walkabout
  
  In any of those science mags(See Readers Digest) you supposedly read…did they ever tell you humans were animals?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 12:00pm
  Doors to Confusion
  
  I have not seen a Readers Digest in a long time.
  
  BTW Why do you use the picture of a 17th or 18th century gentleman. Is that some sort a mental judo? People who uphold the Constitution & think what the founders did was great, that if your post Icon has a likeness of them or person of that time period you can subconsciously work on their mind.
  
  You just a freaking troll and that is the high point of your life.
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:36pm
  @walkabout
  
  Yeah, why would somone who loves the founders so much know who Thomas Paine is? You should probably read “Common Sense” and then I highly reccomend “The Age of Reason”.
- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 1:41pm
  Haha you guys really do make it too easy…
- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:28pm
  Are you really that stupid? Would wipe out the human race? Do you honestly think that by giving gays equal protections and rights under the law would suddenly make everyone gay? Sorry, but I’ve never been attracted to guys and it’s not just because of some societal norm that is perceived and that I’m afraid of. And if they’re given the rights they should have and deserve, as human beings, I’m pretty confident I’m not going to suddenly want to put a penis in my mouth. It was a commonly accepted practice in ancient Greece and Rome, and hey, they didn’t wipe out civilization! In fact, they pretty much created it. Go figure.
  
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GunsBlazin
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:12am
Every minority group can have their own “thing”. The second that white folks or straight folks want to have something to themselves, then it is a big problem.

Can we rewind this clock back 100 years? Sounds better everyday.

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- ThreefingeredGus
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:51am
  thats what happens in history.. when you win, you dont get the exclusive things.. get over it.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on February 18, 2013 at 5:07am
  I second that Guns
  
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XaviorOnassis
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:06am
That is just ignorant. Proms are not for the teachers or parents and they are not a giant game of “dress up and pretend we are a picture perfect wholesome stepford town.” They are a celebration and EVERY member of the student body has a right to attend and his/her guest can be ANY color, religion, sex. It makes no sense to exclude those students and it is rude and arrogant to suggest that an individual “has no purpose.” You can agree with homosexuality or disagree with it as an individual and that is your right–what you cannot do is create a policy of exclusion based on your personal viewpoint.

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- GunsBlazin
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:16am
  Bottom line: we are mammals…animals whether you want to acknowledge it or not. And if animals do not/cannot reproduce then they have no purpose in life. Period.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:35am
  The animals know better. What’s our problem?
  
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- XaviorOnassis
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:26am
  Homosexual intercourse happens in nature ALL THE TIME and all over the animal kingdom. I wish people who make the argument that it is “unnatural” would learn this fact. Humans are animals. If there were no homosexual gratification among humans we would be alone among primates. BUT, it is irrelevant because no one is asking for your approval of their sexual choices–only to be allowed to attend a public school prom with the partner of his/her choice and dance with whomever he/she pleases. This is not something you can regulate.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:34pm
  So if straight people are infertile, they have no use in life? That’s rather harsh.
  
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Locked
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:03am
If a separate groups wants to put on their own Prom, they have every right to do so.

That said, if you support such a move imagine for a second the blowback we’d see on this site if other groups held a “Non-whites only” or “Non-Christians only” Prom. What would you think of such a group? I’m sure it wouldn’t be flattering. Try not to cast too many stones before you think about it.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:36am
  I volunteer to be a chaperone at the “Lipstick Lesbian Prom”!
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:53am
  Love your avatar East…. LOL !!!
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:27am
  Locked, I honestly would not care. It wouldn’t bother me a bit as long as they respected an all white prom or whatever. My only problem with it would be that un”protected” groups would be totally vilified like we are seeing here with the straight prom.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:48am
  @Gonzo
  
  You wouldn’t care, but I was talking about the site in general. You honestly think there wouldn’t be blowback from most posters here?
  
  I personally would say the same thing I said here: outside groups have every right to do what they want, but that freedom doesn’t mean there’s freedom from consequence.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:56am
  I know…you’re right.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:09am
  Locked- to be honest I wouldn’t care and I don’t think many posters would care either without being called massive hypocrites. Rest assured I would be going after them if they started complaining. The Monk certainly wouldn’t care, Anonymous wouldn’t, Walkabout probably wouldn’t, Ranger wouldn’t, Big Mick, I’m naming a lot of names but I really don’t think they would. It would bother me if I was such a hypocrite.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:23am
  @DLV
  
  You have more optimism than I do, I suppose. The Big Mick and Walkabout I think certainly would complain (look how much they have just in this topic alone!). I do pray you’re right, though :-)
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:57am
  There are nonwhite proms or galas already. And no they are not criticized unlike this prom.
  
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