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Sheriff: Alleged Cop Killer Christopher Dorner Died from Gunshot to the Head

Feb. 15, 2013 7:35pm Jason Howerton

This image provided by the Irvine Police Department shows Christopher Dorner from surveillance video at an Orange County, Calif., hotel. (Photo: AP/Irvine Police Department)

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (AP) — Authorities say fugitive former cop Christopher Dorner died of a single gunshot wound to the head as authorities were pumping tear gas into a mountain cabin during a deadly gun battle with sheriff’s deputies.

San Bernardino County sheriff’s Capt. Sheriff John McMahon told reporters Friday that it appears the wound was self-inflicted.

Deputies said they heard one final gunshot from the cabin as it was going up in flames during Tuesday’s gunbattle.

Before he died, Dorner killed one sheriff’s deputy and wounded another during a fierce shootout.

Authorities initially were unsure whether Dorner killed himself, had been struck by a deputy’s bullet or had died in a fire that engulfed the cabin during the shootout.

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imfrzn
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:51am
No free passes today. The Sheriff’s department burned the cabin down so now one murderer is dead. Now all that’s left is the murdering Sheriff’s department to face justice. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!

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betterpart
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:34am
…And the terrorist-supporting editors as Huffington Post cite his death as ‘unexpected.’ Right….I mean ‘left.’

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betterpart
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:47am
Whatever his problem was—and we ALL have one to a greater or lesser degree—-he invalidated himself by murdering his innocent and targeted victims, kidnapping, threatening, and stealing. No (serial) killer should get a pass. End of story.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:20am
  Amen, and nobody should have had to risk their lives to get him out of that cabin alive. If they burned him out so be it.
  
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Chuck7884
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:34pm
the man died by poor marksmanship!. so he killed himself. How many rounds did all those officers expend anyway? and these were swat Officers.

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woodyee
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:52pm
Oh Jiminy Crickets…wheeeeee!

The guy went NUTS. There is no rationalizing his actions on our part nor his, after the fact that this guy went NUTS. It doesn’t justify his actions, and to clarify my stance, I DO NOT condone his actions.

But it is not within the bounds of justifiable homicide for RATIONAL people (LAPD and Fed Rangers on the scene) to demand he be burned and to have that demand executed. The LAPD spokes-hole said they used INCENDIARY gas. The LAPD AUDIO provided by Soy clearly records LAPD/Feds demanding that “the mudder folkker be burned”. If an eye for an eye is okay for LAPD, then it’s okay for EVERYBODY.

I can’t make it any clearer than that fellas.

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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:26pm
Well, at least he was brave enough to kill himself!

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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:43pm
  Brave my aunt fanny-he didn’t want to spend time on death row where he wouldn’t be a “hero”, he took the coward’s way out instead of stand up and court and explain himself. He really had three choices, burn, or go out and surrender, or choose his own end instead. As a rule I reserve judgement to God, and the courts, but I have zero sympathy for him.
  
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- Spitfire1938
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:40pm
  Well… see, heres the thing… by killing himself, instead of begging for forgiveness… He’s condemned himself to ‘hell’ for ETERNITY! His only consolation is he will reside in a higher place than Adolph, Joseph, Mao and Pol Pot!
  
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:08pm
“what are the rules for apprehending a homicidal maniac, exactly????”
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Ummmmmm, I would have pumped knock-out gas into the cabin, at the risk of getting shot, but that’s just me.

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The Big Mick
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:03pm
Stelx–no, look at what I am saying again, see if this helps. I am not saying DOORnob was wronged,
I am Saying WE were wronged. I NEED the people who have Power over me and mine to be absolutely trustworthy in the use of that power. I need them to regard ME and MINE as “one of their own” VASTLY more important than their “blue line” colleagues. What I cannot have is what they did, BECOME THEIR OWN VIGILANTES! To say Doornob got what he deserved is NOT to say the LaPed has yet gotten what THEIR behavior AFTER his rampage began deserves. I am not placing value one way or the other on DOORnob’s beef. What I want the LaPed held ACCOUNTABLE for is Shooting up innocent women, kicking down doors without warrants, burning down buildings, and in general running around like “Platoon” AFTER Doornob started.
They LOSTtheir HEADS, STel, and they need, WE need them, to be BETTER than that.
Doornob may have been waging war on them, but THEY by their NATURE, CANNOT, MUST NOT, MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to wage War on HIM! When they did they waged it on ALL of us.
That does NOT make Doornob a Hero, I think any Fair Reading of what I say would reject that conclusion. No, I saw clearly Doornob is a Self-entitled Black Racist Villian. But that does NOT mean the LaPed did not ACT like Villians TOO!
You keep saying to Criticize the Laped is to praise Doornob. I say that is a False Dilemma. I condemn them both! Cogently.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:32pm
  Big Mick
  We have many disagreements. But i thank you for using principles to figure things out. We have a problem with our government and this Chris Dorner thing did not help
  
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:57pm
Regardless of what Dorner did or didn’t do, then he made it clear that his ultimate objective was to reveal the wicked side of his stated adversaries for the whole world to see (even if that resulted in the employment of posthumous methods to do so)…

At the end of the day, then it didn’t really take much of an effort on Dorner’s part to roll out the “Mission Accomplished” banner:

YouTube: cops say “burn it down”

LA Times (Feb. 7, 2013): “Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop”

Once we reach the point at which vigilante justice has become the acceptable norm, then we can save ourselves a lot of money by discarding all three branches of government because that will be the point at which the law of the jungle will ultimately reign supreme.

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HappyHarriet
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:34pm
On the day of the shoot out, it was reported that a single gun shot was heard and I assumed (and perhaps others) that he had indeed shot himself. It was a predictable ending, I think.

To the topic of his grievances, in my professional life I have heard and been involved at a detailed level with such situations and I can say that in the few cases that I’ve been privy to, there was no justice nor fairness to be meted out. Instead, the full force of the police force (or other groups) was brought to bear on the situation including the Union representative that should have guided the person with a grievance, all the way to the Attorney hired to aide the complainant.

Does this mean every complaint is ignored or jury rigged? No, of course not. I’m not saying that at all. I am saying, however, that over a number of years, I’ve seen exactly the ganging up mentality that Dorner outlined. What he seems to feel is so unfair, and if he’s telling the truth it IS unfair, is that he told the truth about an infraction of a superior officer and the system to handle such complaints turned on him like a mad dog and punished HIM for his report.

I do not condone anything he did, but I believe him. I think he was shafted by the LAPD and the appeals process and shoved out on the street like garbage. Do I believe it was racist? No. I think he was a pain in the ass to deal with and the LAPD couldn’t wait to get rid of him and used this process to do so.

I’ve seen this firs

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ShamanWorld
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:29pm
These police are setting a bad example to the young people of the US. If the police can set a fire and burn a man to crisp, and one which they were ca ught red handed setting, but they deny it and get away with it, then freedom is slipping. What now, people will rob banks and deny it even though they were obviously caught on camera and even confessed? Where was the media to follow up the polices denial anout the origin the cabin blaze?

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ShamanWorld
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:14pm
OK. This is more proof of police abuse of power and getting away wih wanto premeditated murder by fire. The police obviously were heard on the scanners saying “burn it down” etc, but they(police) deny setging the fire. You or I would never be able to get away with a revenge killing caught on camera and video recordingl Lastly, how in the hell can we as US citizens allow thepolice to remove our freedom of free press. The police demanding(and the news producers complying) that the live feed of the cabin Dorner was in be cut off was despicable. The police could have just cut the electricity to the cabin(which they supposedly did do). Point is, for all we know(after live feed was cut) Dorner could have tried to surrender, but was not allowed to and was instead burned to death. Obviously from what we hear on he police scanners, if we had of seen the live footage,we would have seen with our eyes the police set the fire intentionally. Not saying Dorner deserved to live, but having the live video feed is part of protecting the people from police, and police from false charges. iMO lapd wanted Dorner dead at all cost, snd burned the cabin to insure no more manifestos or name drops from the former inside man Dorner

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:18pm
  look below. Apparently the glenn beck crowd believes that the ends justify the means…..But Obama would say the same thing!!! It is progressive ideology
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:30pm
  Soy……this guy Dorner said the ends justify the means by killing people who had nothing to do with his situation……..what don’t you get about that.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:34pm
  right – so government can ignore the rule of law when they feel it is justified….great
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:46pm
  How did they ignore the rule of law?? Murderer in a cabin he broke into, refusing to come out and no body knows his state of mind or further capabilities. Sunset coming, If I’m a cop I’m thinking flush him out now, HE, HE put the bullet in his head. HE HE could have walked out.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:49pm
  Soy also, what are the rules for apprehending a homicidal maniac, exactly????
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:49pm
  stel.
  To put Soy another way, when we mitigate the Behavior of the LaPed, we IN EFFECT commit the same sin of Justifying their Means by the Ends of getting Doornob. And it was EXACTLY THAT behavior IN the LaPed, “Just BURN the MFr!”–just that “Any means are justified to get the killer of one of our own” that CANNOT and MUST NOT be excused or in any way mitigated in and for the LaPed.
  They had a SWORN DUTY to ACT BETTER, and too many of them did NOT!
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:00pm
  Look, I agree from all I’ve ever herd about LAPD. But you have to separate these issues. LAPD was no the only group involved. You can’t pile all prior grievences on the LAPD in this one situation. Just can’t do it. If thats the case then all police forces have already coelesed into an army against us.
  
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- girlnurse
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 5:12am
  The police are gradually changing in these episodes and they have johnQ public going along with an abuse of power that regular folk will NOT like when it gets used against them. The police are out of control. This guy was evil but that doesn’t mean police get to abuse power and do what they want. They could have caught the guy without burning down the cabin. And maybe he didn’t shoot himelf in the head like their script is telling us??…who knows…I don’t believe a word the fifth column says any more.
  
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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:10pm
There ya go, Marc Lamont Hill; your hero offed himself. Just as many of us thought.

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- PeachyinGA
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:22pm
  The coward’s way out.
  
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howiekwix1
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:09pm
The mainstream media and many on the far left have attempted to raise this individual into martyr status. They claim is unfair termination was racially motivated, and primarily because he was ratting on one of his own, a supposed supervisor used excessive force and this individual reported it.

The same mainstream media has also invested themselves into Mr. Dorners background, reporting such issues as his: anger, abusive nature, domestic violence, and temporary restraining order. Apparently their saint was not a saint, but, his cry for attention too his employers unfair treatment has elevated the “RACISM” issue within the Los Angeles Police Department.

My question to all those favorable to Mr. Dorner.
How does someone with a history of abuse, aggression and domestic violence gain employment with the Los Angeles Police Department. Was he hired under “affirmative action”? Was someone bypassed in the hiring process, so a quota could be filled?

I believe this is where the true inquiry begins!
What background check and pschological examinations was conducted on Mr. Chris Dorner prior to his employment. Even the military passed him over for advancement.

Let’s stop playing the race card, and the politcal correctness slot machine. This guy was a killer, a deranged individual bent on killing, period……

http://www.bestofmandel.com

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Seagal45
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:09pm
The guy was a coward and took the coward’s way out. Good riddance you POS.

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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:03pm
Once this POS killed people who had nothing to do with whatever his real situation was he nullified any…..ANY SYMPATHY folks should give him. He’s a murderer and nothing more. END OF STORY

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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:09pm
  Nah, the Paulbots will mourn for him.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:10pm
  Stelex, I feel you, but I think that dwelling on the murders of the daughter of an ex-LAPD official and her fiance is over-the-top BECAUSE, they came AFTER this guy lost everything as a result of LAPD corruption – including his mind.
  
  I would agree whole-heartedly with you if the perp was in full control of his facilities. Be that as it may, I respect your opinion. This IS a touchy subject…
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:14pm
  Well WoodyEE……..if you can justify homocide of innocents I have no argument …….there is no argument.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:18pm
  WOODYEE, I have to agree with you if you are saying that something was wrong with this guy in the head. Yeah, I know that the LAPD has probably more than there share of bad cops, but not all of them can be bad. Although, it was ’96 when I was out there last and spoke with any of them. Anyway, I am not trying to cover for the department, but Dorner was establishing a pattern when he was passed over for promotion by the Navy for what has to be more than once to have them discharge him. Surely nobody here other than SOY can really conclude that the Navy and LAPD conspired together to screw this guy over.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:19pm
  BTW Wood……you don’t know this guy, so your assuming. Personally I think actions speak louder than words. If he was unjustly persecuted his responce nullified that. What responce to there unjust persecution do the innocent couple have????. If you need a hero this bad that is pretty sad
  
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- dissentnow
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:02am
  @Goodstuff
  Again, with the “paulbot” crap! Aside from being a miserable POS, you are like a broken record; mindlessly repeating the same stupid comment on every story involving Dorner.
  
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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:58pm
I have to echo msnbc, cnn and all the “valid” media. This was a really cool movie and I hope whomever played Dorner gets a nod. Also to the amazing actors playing the victims just …..wow. Such emotion. Django obviously has some competition. Quinton……wattaya say…..gotta give it a nod yourself. To all the folk in the MSM that thought this guy was cool and exciting. I really hope you meet someone just like him. ………..JAGOVS.

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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:11pm
  Stel, I need a second opinion. If “Jingger” is Markie LaMONT’s Black Slave Revenge Fantasy, and “Inglorious Idiots” is Hollywood’s Revenge of the Jews Fantasy, can I make either “Zulu” or “Black Hawk Down” MY revenge fantasy movie?
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:21pm
  Sure……is you want to be a small person and part of the problem. Go for it.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:23pm
  Personally Zombie movies work for me, cause thats how I see most people acting. Not a whole lotta thinking going on these days……
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:39pm
  I will not gainsay you on Zombies and thinking, ST. I’ve used that metaphor myself.
  But I deny that to Recognize my Enemies and Regard them as such is to be a “small” person and “part of the problem” if you are implying that. Walter Williams in his April 7, 2010 Column “Parting Company has Identified and Defined “The Problem” in a seminal way. In essence, he says The Constitutional Conservationists have irreconcilable differences with the Collectivist Statist Redistributers.
  He does not state, but I would argue his conclusion is inescapable, that the ONLY Solution is Dissolution of The Union. Since he refuses to say this clearly, it is difficult to parse out how he thinks this could be accomplished without Civil War. THAT is the ONLY Problem I see as worth Considering, ST. ALL others are simply ASPECTS of it.
  Within that Context I SEE CLEARLY that when Van Jones presents his Doctrine with “Give THEM the wealth”, he is saying (“he who has ears to hear let him hear”): “EFF WHITEY!” I believe Jim Kirk the Younger had the right of it when he said: “Either they are going down or we are.” I prefer it to be them. That is how I frame the problem, that is what I see as the solution.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:07pm
  You say “You prefer to be them” but its not clear who. Sorry. Van Jones is a lunatic…..Statists are lunatics, progressives are lunatics. A very large portion of the nation are lunatics. Witch is why I fear for my country.
  
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affinity
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:57pm
I’m surprised Obama didn’t get credit for ordering his death and they didn’t bury him at sea.

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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:10pm
  Thank you!!!!!
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:57pm
so i guess the sheriff is trying to convince the public that they did not kill him? I thought everyone said the way they killed him was justified? If it was justified, why are they trying to say they didnt kill him?

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- woodyee
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:06pm
  Soy, there’s a law in California that says that if you’re running with an individual or group that is committing a crime resulting in death, you’re just as culpable for murder as they are, even if you didn’t know what the others were doing.
  
  Here, the cops FORCED Dorner’s hand (IF the reports of suicide are true). There is audio of one or more cops urging others to “burn the mudder folk her!”. If THAT doesn’t meet the murder criteria of California, then their is no justice, and we should ALL rebel against the injustice.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:13pm
  SOY, Send them a FOYA request for the forensic photos of the body. Take a look for yourself and even if you have half a brain you can see the angle of a self inflicted gun shot will be different than the majority of distant gun shots. Rifle and pistol shots will have different looking results too.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:21pm
  WOOD: Don’t forget that this guy had threatened so many people , stolen vehicles, taken hostages, and had killed also. Am sure the police were emotionally and physically exhausted by the time Dorner was holed up in that cabin – and just shot two more police. . Dorner had suicide written all over his actions and his ” manifesto.” His anger issues had rocked his sanity. This would never have ended well. A sad mess for all.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:30pm
  Oh Jiminy Crickets…
  
  The guy went NUTS. There is no rationalizing his actions on our part nor his, after the fact that this guy went NUTS. It doesn’t justify his actions, and to clarify my stance, I DO NOT condone his actions.
  
  But it is not within the bounds of justifiable homicide for RATIONAL people (LAPD and Fed Rangers on the scene) to demand he be burned and to have that demand executed. The LAPD spokes-hole said they used INCENDIARY gas. The LAPD AUDIO provided by Soy clearly records LAPD/Feds demanding that “the mudder folkker be burned”. If an eye for an eye is okay for LAPD, then it’s okay for EVERYBODY.
  
  I can’t make it any clearer than that fellas.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:53pm
is this the same sheriff who said they did not set the fire on purpose?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=po9EaU7ZjxI

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00pm
  Who cares how he died? He just needed to die.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:01pm
  Right on, Soy.
  
  Some folks, like Limbaugh, are steadfast in support of the LAPD. We with our feet at ground zero, know that this cop went rogue, but he went rogue because of (in his words) LAPD corruption.
  
  Nothing says corruption better than murder. Nothing says murder better than “Burn the [mud and folk her]“!!!
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:08pm
  SOY, Back to the conspiracy nut stuff? I’ve explained that jargon here before and I believe another cop or former cop has pointed it out. Burner means the pyrotechnic type CS canister. It works exactly the same as and looks the same as a smoke canister. As described in earlier briefings they reported using the cold style projectile from a launcher. When you are being shot at you also might not use flowery language. Sorry, Bubba buty you got that tin foil hat tighter than usual.
  BTW, when you don’t know their jargon, don’t go making up your own BS answers to fit your BS agenda.
  Do though, pay attention to what comes out in the future. Then try to sort it out.
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:10pm
  @Soyboob and woody
  
  Ahh, you’re poor hero was killed. Boo-frickety-doo.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:15pm
  RJ
  
  listen to the audio before you go on a rant. you have no idea what i was referring to
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:19pm
  RJJ – I’m just south of where this all went down. We’ve had the LAPD spokes-hole admit to first using cold cs, and then using (his words) “incendiary” cs. Couple that with the clear audio of the radio transmissions between unknown LAPD cops screaming “Burn the [modern folk-her]!”, and I say their is probable evidence for premeditation there.
  
  Man, this subject has drawn some lines in the sand, huh? Even GoodStuff’s on my case! Jiminy Crickets!
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:23pm
  SOY, I sought out and heard the audio several times the morning after this happened. You sound like you have a story about alien abduction complete with probes too. My point, is that you don’t know what they are talking about, you have never been in a similar situation, and don’t even try to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about. Although, of course I don’t know everything. I do know to wait for an investigation, keep your mind open.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:34pm
  WOODYEE, Uhhh, forgive me but, striking back at a guy who just earlier had shot two local LE types, killing one, then getting involved with a lengthy firefight from the cabin precludes the local sheriff’s department from from returning fire? Okay, from the moment I started working in LE I was taught to use the least force necessary. In my honest opinion it was Dorner who upped the ante well into deadly force first. Afterwards, we were not taught to fight fair. We were taught to win, and to do so quickly. As far as I am concerned, they could have used hand grenades on the guy once the deadly force threshold had been breached. You guys are trying to read too much into what is said in the audio, and you are jumping to your conclusions regarding their jargon resulting from their adrenalin rush.
  WOODYEE, man I love you like a brother here, and do not want to act contrary with you, nor try to offer any cover any of the departments. And yes, I know the reputation that the LAPD has. But the LAPD was not involved in the final shoot out.
  
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woodyee
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:52pm
Just yesterday, the LAPD admitted to first using “cold” gas fired into the cabin, and then to using “INCENDIARY” gas fired into the cabin.

Kinda puts Waco in perspective, only there, the cops were targeting men women and children; here, the LAPD was paying the price for screwing one of their own; in the end.

Whack-o LAPD cop – 3
LAPD – 1 (as of Feb.13) and counting…

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00pm
  neglecting public duty and due process – priceless
  
  its gonna be so great when these same police forces are at outside our houses waiting for us to surrender our guns…..How is that going to go?
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:01pm
  Yeah, the inocent daughter and fiance who had nothing to do with what happened I’m sure agree with you. You’re better than this……….
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:11pm
  Who cares if he died from a self-inflicted gunshot, a fire or an anvil falling out of the sky. He’s dead! Good!
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:28pm
  Sorry, comrades, but I refuse to participate in this Faux Dilemma.
  Much as I hate Chris Doornob’s Black Racist Self-entitled asz, I HAVE to agree, at least in part, with Soy and Woody. You stretch credulity beyond the breaking point to argue the LaPed covered themselves with Glory here.
  AT a MINIMUM they had numerous examples of Poor Fire Discipline, a lack of coolness when THEY were in danger, a troublesome disregard of due process and RIGHTS of the CITIZENS they are SWORN to protect. They SHOT how many INNOCENT Citizens, TWO of which were guilty of NOTHING but delivering papers in a vehicle that looked vaguely like the SUSPECTS. NO WAY those two women presented ANY threat. THAT incident admits of ONLY two Choices–The PoPos were SCARED to the point of COWARDICE and simply Jerked Trigger and Emptied Mags in sheer PANIC, or they were, in essence, committing a Drive-By REVENGE killing without ANY attempt to apprehend or even IDENTIFY the SUSPECT.
  The latter interpretation of their actions is bolstered by the audio from the scene, the $1mil reward that would NOT have been offered for a killer of a convenience store clerk, and the general “one of our own” attitude displayed throughout by the LaPed. As if WE are not “their own”.
  In short it was difficult to distinguish Klan PoPo’s “thin blue Frat crew” in this from the Street Gangs they hunt.
  They were not out to ENFORCE the LAW, they were out for, as Val Kilmer as “Doc Holiday” says in “Tombstone”,
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:42pm
  Big Mick, The guy said he was waging war. Killed two civilian innocent people. But you argue he was wronged. The crack is flowing and you really need to put it down. At any time durring this whole siege he could have given himself up. You want to turn this turd into a hero…….go right ahead. Buy all the gold spray paint you want………this turd is still a turd and we are all better off today.
  
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- The Big Mick
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:45pm
  What Doc Holiday said.
  The Laped was NOT out to “enforce the law” and “bring a suspected criminal to justice”. They were out for “A RECKONING”. This wasn”t a “Jingger” Black Revenge Fantasy—this was a POLICE Revenge Fantasy.
  
  My point being that to Condemn Doornob is not to support, mitigate, cover up or ignore, the Ganglike Behavior of the LaPed. And to hold the LaPed ACCOUNTABLE for their Incompetence, Lack of Professionalism, and Pack Mentality in this is NOT to support, excuse, justify or in any way mitigate Doornob. It is a Faux Dilemma to say that doing the one de facto means you are doing the other.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:54pm
  They are two different things and need to be addressed separately
  
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MK2
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:51pm
To bad he didn’t suffer more

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:01pm
  you mean like the humiliation and example he would set of being convicted of manslaughter? And then held up in a jail cell awaiting his execution?
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:09pm
  MK….Obviously Soy has gone over the edge and can’t tell right from wrong anymore, no longer any different from a Prog that can justify anything.
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:12pm
  Soyboob loves leftists who murder people.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:17pm
  Stelex
  
  What are you talking about. Do we have rules for apprehending bad guys or not?
  
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Southernsoul
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:42pm
That’s why I say, hey man, nice shot. Nice shot, man

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circleDwagons
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:37pm
So this badass started a fire and then shot himself in the head. Good shooting

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- Welcome Black Carter
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:02pm
  Po-Pos torched the cabin. Did you miss that story?
  
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deltaecho
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:36pm
amf

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