Wait Until You Hear the Latest Left-Wing Conspiracy About the Tea Party — And Your Tax Dollars Funded the ‘Study’
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Americans’ hard earned tax dollars were used to help fund a study that attempted to link the Tea Party movement to the tobacco lobby. The study argues that the Tea Party was not a spontaneous grassroots movement, but rather the brainchild of big tobacco.
Tea Party leaders quickly mocked the study’s conclusions, which were published earlier this month in the Tobacco Control journal. It was also reportedly presented by its actual authors at an on-campus symposium in San Francisco on Feb. 8. The research was conducted at the University of California-San Francisco.
“The Tea Party that we see in 2009 actually has decades of influence from tobacco and other corporate interests,” co-author Amanda Fallin said.
More from FoxNews.com:
The study was funded by federal taxpayer grants through the National Institutes of Health and its subsidiary the National Cancer Institute, both federal agencies. It’s difficult to tell how much grant money specifically went toward this study, but federal records show researchers at the university have received $7 million since 2007 to study tobacco issues.
The study argues that while conventional wisdom says the Tea Party launched in the spring of 2009, its “roots” lie in the tobacco industry efforts of the 1990s. The premise is that the group Citizens for a Sound Economy, a tobacco industry ally which opposed tobacco taxes and control in the ’90s, split a decade later into the conservative groups Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, which have since linked up with part of the Tea Party movement. The study argues that their tactics and beliefs have remained constant by opposing new taxes and regulations.
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However, opposing tobacco taxes is a relatively small part of their current agenda. And those two groups do not compose the entirety of the Tea Party movement. They work with a range of local and national Tea Party groups, but those groups — including the national Tea Party Patriots — have their own management.
Democratic leaders have routinely attempted to paint the Tea Party as a manufactured movement created to do the bidding to Wall Street fat cats and the “radical” conservatives. But the tobacco thing, that’s new.
“If you’re going to have a conspiracy theory, at least try to make it pass the laugh test… and this one doesn’t even do that,” AFP President Tim Phillips told FoxNews.com, adding that opposing tobacco taxes is “probably point-00001 percent of the effort.”
Tea Party Patriots co-founder Jenny Beth Martin said the student was “an example of the frivolous spending inside the government…that has landed us $17 trillion in debt.
The National Cancer Institute said in a statement to Fox News that NCI and NIH played no role in the selection of the research topic when it provided funds.
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Bill Wallace
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:45pmCAIR – founded by a known ilsamic terrorist, supported by islamic terrorists, and a un-indicted conspirator of terrorism…yet the left will denounce all that and claim it is not a terrorist group.
But if it is the Tea Part, then any cockamaimy bull story put out there placing it aligned with any evil is not only true, it requires tax dollars to prove it.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:15pmAgain let me just point out… at least they did research and a study before com ing out with the results. and we are just finding it harder and harder to believe you and the whole CAIR thing given your parties history.. may I remind you of these gems? Obama is from Kenya no matter how much evidence there is proving he’s not, Obama is a muslim, or that the white house had a live feed of the Benghazi attack, Or that agenda 21 will turn America into a dystopic hell scape, or that newtown was staged, or that the people at the newtown shootings were all actors, or that there is a war on christmas, or that hurricanes are God’s punishment for having gays in our nation, Or that Obama was going to declare martial law before the last election, or death panels, or that theres going to be door to door gun confiscation, Or HAARP, should I keep going?
marybethelizabeth
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:36pmCAIR is a bad thing Keaton c333
Read some John Loftus.
They are fascist so they are linked to the Republicans and other right wing groups.
It’s good to see the right wing here airing their dirty laundry
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:38pmHey K333.
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Six years after Al Gore’s older sister died of lung cancer in 1984, he was still accepting campaign contributions from tobacco interests. Four years after she died, while campaigning for President in North Carolina, he boasted of his experiences in the tobacco fields and curing barns of his native Tennessee. And it took several years after Nancy Gore Hunger’s death for Mr. Gore and his parents to stop growing tobacco on their own farms in Carthage, Tenn.
So it seems that the Al Gore and his family were quite content to profit from tobacco users for more than 20 years after the January 1964 publication of the first Surgeon General report on smoking and health.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:39pmResearch? Not hardly. This IS laughable and Keaton, so are you.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:45pmannonymous… may i suggest actually reading the study.. you know as opposed to forming your views on one or two excerpts from a biased source.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 9:58pmYou lefties are nuts…
the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy. Between 1869 and 1871 its goal was to destroy Congressional Reconstruction by murdering blacks — and some whites — who were either active in Republican politics or educating black children.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html
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COFemale
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:01pmmarybethelizabeth haven’t heard from you in a long time. How did drug rehab go. I heard they kept you in much longer this time for that nasty habit you have.
CAIR is a Liberal thing missy. Don’t tie the Right/Republicans to CAIR. They are in Obama’s back pocket. Nice try though.
I do hope you kick that drug problem though.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:28pmActually the Tea Party was largely the creation of the Koch Brothers and Murdoch. Without Murdoch and his promotion of TP events as straight news, along with his staff speaking at these events, this fake grass roots movement (instantly created out of thin air when President Obama was elected) would have never existed. Without the huge infusion of dollars from the Koch brothers, all those Tea Party events would never have happened.
So what happened to the Tea Party? They failed at the last election. So Murdoch got rid of Palin, and, somehow, no one is financing all those Tea Party rallies that FOX relentlessly promoted. When was the last Tea Party rally? I’ll tell you: when the Koch brothers decided they were throwing their money away.
As Sarah Palin goes, so goes the Tea Party.
So where is the Tea Party now and all those three corned hats and all those signs telling the government to “keep your hands off of my Medicare”?
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banjarmon
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:37pmThe libs are in charge of government as of right and ANYBODY that does not believe the way they do is a terrorist. Therefore the TEA party is a terrorist and CAIR is NOT….Does this mean our lib government is alined with muslims and NOT the CONSTITUTION?
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Farmhand82
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:01amThe lefties are out in force as is always the case when the Tea Party gets brought up. I actually kind of agree with them that the TP is greatly diminished and possibly dead unless it has something recussitate it, but the fact that the group still makes them go nuts to this day puts a smile on my face. They’ll never admit it, of course, but the fact that they’re practically spamming this story shows their true feelings.
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Berbel73
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:38amWRONG meteors, once again you don’t have a clue about what you are talking about so you just spew out more lib prog media matters talking points. The TEA party got it’s start back in 2009 as a result of, oddly enough, CNBC commentator Rick Santelli and his remarks regarding government backed refinancing of mortgages. Although It’s not your fault, you are the product of decades of liberal indoctrination throughout the entire educational system and are therefor incapable of rational, logical, and independant thinking.
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Phattdad144
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 5:53amKeatonC333. Yes conspiracy theories are not hard to find. But exactly how many tax payer dollars went to support these theories? The point it that the lefts propaganda machine is using tax money to spew this garbage.
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bbhouston
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:39amThe Teaparty is reloading…..2014 will prove to be miserable for the Democrats AND Karl Rove as they both are close to kissing total power in the senate goodbye.
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scrubbos
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:38amkeaton—–Wasn’t it someone in Hillarys camp that first claimed Obama was not born in the US. I wonder why it took Obma 3 years to provide his birth certificate? Do you think he helped foster the belief he was not born in the US? I think there is more evidence of a war on Christmas than a war on women. The Benghazi attack is another example of your party failing to come foreward with facts or providing facts that turn out not to be facts afterall. How about your partys claim the tea party is violent, without any examples. As far as gun consification is concerned, i remember when the smoke nazis said they just wanted to give people in resturants a seperate section that was smoke free. Now they don;t want people smoking in the park. How about seat belts. It was first promised not to be a primary reason for a ticket. How did that work out? It’s called the camels nose under the tent. I guess you missed Paul Krugman talking about death panels, google it. You can pick examples of crazy theories from both parties. The dem who said guam might tip over or Shiela Jackson Lee saying man walked on mars or her latest —-she is a freed slave. lol I think she would have to be close to 150 years old to have been a slave here in America. She doens;t look a day over 100 to me.
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realindependent
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:45amThey didn’t need a study to show where the money came from to build the tea party. Americans for Prosperity ” Koch brothers” Heritage foundation “right wing think tank” Freedom Works aka”dick Army’s lobby shop” And all of right wing talk radio, Levin,Rush,Hannity. Oh and 24 hours of Fox news. Red State, Drudge report, The daily caller. And so on and so on and so on.. Oh yeah the media is all left wing propaganda. Palleesseeee
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CrazyDanMan
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:40pmKeaton I don’t think anyone has said the WH has a live feed from Benghazi. There have been some interesting theories about gun running operations I’ve read about. But its really not a story is it? After all its only four Americans killed by foreign nationals.
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desertspeaks
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:11pmunfrickinbelievable, well not really, our government has no concept of fiscal responsibility and isn’t held accountable for a damn thing they do. So this is expected!
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:17pmUnalien.. we all know that the democrats of the late 1800s and the democrats of today are almost complete opposites! and I love how you guys always leave out the huge christian element to the klan
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:19pmPhattdad… actually that is a good point. should have been an independent study.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:23pmscrubbos.. you are half right.. it wasn’t anyone in Hillary’s camp. but the first birther conspiracies came from spam emails from hillary supporters.. they were quickly shot down by Hillary though and were forgotten.. until 2009 when Jim Geraghty and the tea party got the memo.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:28pmand Crazydanman.. actually there was a conspiracy theory that the white house had a live feed of the attack.. I am sure a lot of people on this site remember that! being as the completely untrue story broke on none other than Fox News! I’m still waiting on the apology.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/fox-news-and-benghazi-video-for-real/2012/11/09/79410b04-29d8-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_blog.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/02/world/la-fg-benghazi-attack-20121103
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encinom
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:33pmLook at the backers of the Tea ****** party, Romney’s Billionaires, the Koch Brothers and others. the Tea Baggers were an astro turf organization created to mobilize the old, racist, ignorant white Americans. Its little more than a collection of the worst of America, the paranoid, ignorance that Beck, Rush and Fox News leaches off of.
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kchercmech
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:24pmKEATONC333 –
CAIR has been directly tied in federal court to terrorism, terrorist acts, and fund raising for terrorists. Check out The Investigative Project on Terrorism some time. Do your research before you stand to protect murderers and terrorists. just visit this vast resource site and typ CAIR into the search window in the upper right. There you will find copies of bank transactions linking the HolyLand Foundation, CAIR and other terrorist people not too mention many reports about the federal case linking all them together.
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Soul Leister
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:29pmHey, Keyton… let’s be clear… OBAMA said he was from KENYA when he was pitching his books to publishers… leave it to democrats to tell a lie and then get mad when it is repeated… that is, when they are not repeating it.
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Soul Leister
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:32pmHey Keaton… thanks for confirming there are no democrat christians today nor where there any in the KKK… what planet are you from??? All the jim crowe laws were southern democrat keeping the black man down… not republicans… history is not your strong suit (do you have one?).
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Soul Leister
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:42pmHey kaytoon, several news outlets reported there were drones on station… eyes on the action… they didn’t get that from FOX, it came from the administration leakers… muddying the water, not knowing which way to tell the tale… and when cell phone video hit the net showing stevens being taken out of the building alive… well, FOX must have manufactured that too??? Don’t quit your day job at the DNC propaganda/rehab center.
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Bum thrower
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:53pmI want my money back……….what a rip off……….
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snufy
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:01pmYes, Hootowl, and Albert Gore Sr voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The Republicans are who ended slavery started by southern democrats, but they are trying to re-make history to blame others, as they always do.
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Ben_Dover
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 12:06pmThat’s because CAIR is funding govt and education in this country. They are part of the progressive liberalism/communism movement trying to bring this country under the reigns of a satanic new world order. Progressive liberalism, Democratic Socialism and Islam/Shariah law are diseases that need eradicated from this nation.
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quiltgal
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:41pmGovernment is spending our tax money to elevate certain favored groups and denigrate others (mostly through lies). Way, way outside of its mandate. Government is becoming our master. Is this really what the majority wants? The Tea Party is out of favor today. What group will be out of favor tomorrow? Liberals beware: Sometimes totalitarian governments are not led by rational people. Always they do not respect individual rights.
I’ve been to many local tea party meetings. Not once did the subject of tobacco come up. Also, out of a couple hundred Tea Party people, I can barely count on one hand the number who smoked. So much for the tobacco connection!
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whatsallthisthen
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:39pmI still want to know why the House, which controls the purse strings, refuses to do anything about this kind of wasted tax dollars. Spending originates in the House Mr. Weeper, why don’t you use your power in a good way?
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Jake Dog2
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:37pm@ SPQR1
Here is the study
http://yubanet.com/usa/Tea-Party-39-s-Ties-to-Tobacco-Industry-Date-Back-to-1980s-UCSF-Study-Shows.php
Surprise it is from that well balanced University of San Francisco and an anti tobacco org. So yes I read it. I is a lot of crap. Like all studies it can be slanted anyway you want when you start out with an agenda.
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TurboCat
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 6:02amFor the stupids who did that study: The Tea Party was IN RESPONSE to how radically left the Democrats had become. BECAUSE the Democrats had actually become Communists, the Tea Party sprang up in order to defend this Country!
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BlackCrow
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32pmBull ^%$#!!!!!!
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dc5
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:00amTo Keaton and MARYBETHELIZABETH. Fascism is a form of Socialism, a mere difference of degrees. It belongs squarely on the left, together with Nazism. CAIR is an organization whose sole purpose is to whitewash the horrors of the religion of Islam to the American public and seek acceptance among the limited knowledge audience. You are both swallowing whole without the benefit of thoughtful digestion.
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encinom
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:44pmDC5 typical beckerhead with little understanding of the truth or history or anythign else. Racist, facism is foundation of America’s right wing. Preaching fear, paranoia and bigotry.
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SGT Rock
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32pmThey mock what they fear and do not understand.
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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:43pmScary…..they fear everything and understand nothing. We must get them out of power.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:08pmThough it is true that i don’t understand the tea party. and enjoy mocking it! it is nothing to Fear! Its good entertainment! and believe me I hope the tea party is around a long time, you know because i enjoy having democrats as president! but fear? nah! why fear something that only 8% of Americans say they identify with?
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Zipit
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:05pmLittle Keaty! I bet you’d enjoy a razor blade enema too! Well at least you will. Cause that is what Obama’s giving you!! Funny thing, you’re too stupid to know it!
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:30pmZipit! is “Obama is a secret masochistic dominatrix” going to be the next conspiracy theory? ; )
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:30pm1) the Tea Party is dead.
2) the Tea Party never was a grass roots movement.
3) Lefties do not deal in conspiracy theories, that a conservative thang!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:34pmYou stupid SOB why do you insist on proving your idiocy with every post?
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:34pmROFL … that is the FUNNIEST thing I have read today … hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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TheEDGE
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:34pmI love the bubble you’re stuck in you SFBs!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:42pmCATB, Same thing that I was thinking. Old DORA_GASBAG can spin some doozies at times. ROFLMAO!
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:43pmVERCE… it’s time to park the bus. You just don’t get it. ….any of it.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:43pmVERCEOFREASON
1) your opinion is irrelevant
2) the Tea Party is not a party, it is founded in reason and logic not utopianism
3) Lefties are ideologues unable to defend their parasitical beliefs
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Jake Dog2
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:43pm@ Verceofreason
Go to the medication room at your psych unit and get your medications you need them.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:48pmThat insane ideology of yours is right up there with Russia downing a massive rock from space with their missile defense system. ROFL.
Thank you for proving the liberal democrats-socialists-communists are still as insane as ever.
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quiltgal
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:59pmLittle vice verce engages in wishful thinking. How tiresome.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:59pmanyone care to ask the Koch brothers just how grass roots the tea party is?
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:02pmOh my, what a ninny I am.
1) 95% of all Tea Party backed candidates LOST in November
2) the country’s Tea Part support has dropped fro 24% to 20% to 8% in most recent poll.
3) Sarah Palin has been replaced by Scott Brown 40% less pouffy.
4) the Republican party runs, RUNS, from anything labeled Tea Party.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:04pmVerce! your points are spot on! but none more so than point number 3! lets not forget.. Obama is from Kenya, or that the white house had a live feed of the Benghazi attack, Or that agenda 21 will turn America into a dystopic hell scape, or that newtown was staged, or that the people at the newtown shootings were all actors, or that there is a war on christmas, or that hurricanes are God’s punishment for having gays in our nation, Or that Obama was going to declare martial law before the last election, or death panels, or that theres going to be door to door gun confiscation, Or the whole HAARP thing, should I keep going?
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:08pmVERCE…
You continue to equate Republicans with Conservatives.
They aren’t the same thing.
Believing they are will spell your doom.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:17pmKEATON… you mix the likely with the ridiculous with no regard.
Obama is from Kenya- maybe
the white house had a live feed of the Benghazi attack- likely
agenda 21 will turn America into a dystopic hell scape – maybe
newtown was staged, or that the people at the newtown shootings were all actors – ridiculous
there is a war on christmas – definitely
hurricanes are God’s punishment for having gays in our nation- ridiculous
Obama was going to declare martial law before the last election – ridiculous
death panels – uh, yup… they are coming, just as they exist in every country with socialized medicine.
theres going to be door to door gun confiscation – there are actually bills on the table of some states for this now….
the whole HAARP thing – lol…there are many problems with HARP. You’re going to have to be more specific.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:56pmVERCEOFREASON
Why do you nutcases make stuff up..
the Senate tea party backed was 15% winning,, backed only 13
the house was.. 77% winning
The FreedomWorks for America Super PAC endorsed 86 candidates, 66 won, 19 lost, with 1 going to a run-off – a nearly 77% winning percentage. The FreedomWorks Inc. PAC endorsed the same candidates as the Super PAC, plus Trey Gowdy in South Carolina (who also won). Their winning percentage was 77%.
http://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/tea-party-nationalism/tea-party-news-and-analysis/item/442-tea-party-endorsed-candidates-and-election-2012
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COFemale
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:05pmIn your dreams pea brain. If you had any reason, you’d be a Conservative. You don’t so you are a dumb brain dead moron Liberal.
Sorry Tea Party is not dead. We’ve just gone silent. We will rear our heads when the time is right. Prepare you coward.
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Farmhand82
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 10:48pmHahahahaha oh yes lefties don’t deal in conspiracy theories. That’s why something like 50% of Democrats polled thought Bush was behind 9/11. I remember frequently hearing about how Bush was a fascist and how he would suspend elections. Yes there are nutbags saying crazy things on the right, but it was substantially worse during the Bush years. Go Go selective memory though!
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:33amThis is what you must know:
The sleeping giant is dead. There is no Tea Party. There never was a Tea Party. The sweep of time will continue to push right wing conservatives to the margins. You decry the passing of apple pie Americana. But it’s your own fault.
The freedom that defined America’s founding and success is precisely what you want to deny to people who aren’t exactly like you. And when that happens, when people are denied life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, then they will take it from their oppressors. The conservatives are the oppressors. You are the Red Coats. And the freedom fighters, the Minutemen are now women and Hispanics and gays and students.
Your days of WASP hegemony are over. Good bad or otherwise, they are over. As with every significant change in culture or economy, there are those who welcome it and those who reject it, those who benefit and those who sacrifice. Either way, change will not be denied. Don’t believe me? Try to find a phone booth.
Liberals value their freedom. Conservatives fear losing their power.
It is so.
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americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:43amYou Progressive Libs have nothing more than propaganda on your side. Lies, Lies, and more Lies! The Tea Party is no more Dead than Obama is a Leader. I have been to many rallies across this great nation, and the people that I met there were the nicest, kindest, most hard working individuals that I have ever had the chance to meet. 8/28 Restoring Honor in Washington DC (Approximately 500,000 Individuals that came on their own DIME) was a prime example of this. When the rally was over there was not a bubble gum wrapper to be found on the grounds anywhere. It was like the Boy Scouts of America had walked thru and swept it all clean. Compare that to the 10/2/10 One Nation rally(Union members at the same place just over a month afterwards; these people that were “Bused in”, were fed lunches, and even paid to be there by their unions and they totally trashed the place. Our brand new WWII monument littered with everything you could imagine! It was disgraceful. These were people there to support the SEIU, UAW, CPUSA (Yes the Communist Party of America), AFL-CIO, ….. They couldn’t even pick up after themselves. “LAZY SLOBBS”! These thugs and radicals do not who represents this nation, nor will they ever.
You can think, if you want, that the Tea Party is dead, but I know better. We are teaching our children, family members, neighbors, co-workers about the evils of communism and marxism. We are teaching them to stand on their own two feet and stop asking the government for a ha
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CrazyDanMan
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:18amYOURSENSEI – What is this Freedom that you value? Seriously I want to know.
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americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:49amYoursense = No Sense
“And the freedom fighters, the Minutemen are now women and Hispanics and gays and students.”
First off throwing Women, Hispanics, and students in with the “gays” is not a fair statement at all. Secondly, a true patriot or person fighting for freedom would want anything given to them, except for what comes from GOD. These sections of people that you spoke of have nothing in common except that they all want to be free, but so does every human being. That is exactly why the government should only be charged with protecting our country from foreign attacks and Life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They don’t get to redefine what that means and they don’t get to stop us from pursuing our dreams unless it interferes with someone else’s dreams or rights. The Federal Government should protect our borders! So those that live in that area can live their lives “Without Fear”.
There was a saying during WWII that many medals of honor and poems were distributed that read “Freedom of Fear”. Check it out and post your comments about it.
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jeffile
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:30amYoursense. Man, you made me choke on my breakfast. Liberals hardly want individual freedom or what our founding fathers intended. I;m sorry but I can’t address each of your points as they are so far from reality as to make them ludicrous. I’m sorry but it is people who think as you who are taking our freedoms. You insist we do what you believe is for the collective good while disregarding what the constitution states. Call yourself a progressive, liberal, socialist, fascist or communist as you are all one and the same. A mindset which demands adherence to a totalitarian government.
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CrazyDanMan
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:04pmYOURSENSEI still waiting for your definition of freedom. Do you really have a position or are you just here to irritate people. That’s fine too. Just want to know were you are coming from.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:29pmMr or Ms CRAZYDAN,
This is what you must know:
AKING FOR definition of freedom is like asking someone to define jazz. If you have to ask you’ll never know.
It is so
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CrazyDanMan
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:58pmYou are avoiding the question. Freedom is simple to define if you truly believe. Let me change the question just a bit. Where does freedom come from?
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jmeister8
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:21pmThe thing that scares a progressive most is an american that he can’t control. Thats exactly what they tried to do to christians in the roman colaseums with the lions but despite even that the christian freedom fighters grew to numbers that could not be counted or controlled and before long overshadowed all of Europe with their influence. Those ungodly men that were doing the persecuting were soon to be found being beheaded if they didn’t accept those christian beliefs. Oh how the tides do turn. Every dog has its day but in the end they are just dogs trying to be men and failing. Those of you who hate God and and the country and all that we tea party people hold dear….. We will remember!!!
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redfish52
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:27pmWhat a bunch of dopes….
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redfish52
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:29pmOh heck…the jigs up….they’re on to us…well we might as well tell them who’s buried in Grant’s tomb now….dangit….how on earth did they figure it out?
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:02amThis is what you must know:
“beheaded if they didn’t accept those christian beliefs”
This is why God is shoving Christians into the shadows. You shame the Lord.
It is so.
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americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:01amBoth of you = You have been eating too much REDFISH (Probably from around the Japanese melt down) that YOURSENSE is gone. Progressives will NEVER rule this nation entirely! We the People will not stand for it.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:08amMr or Ms AMERICANSFIGHTINGFORCOMMONSENSE,
This is what you must know:
Conservatives/Christians will NEVER rule this nation entirely! We the People will not stand for it.
It is so.
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jeffile
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:42amYoursense. You ought to research how many of the original 13 states had a state sanctioned specific religion. You ought to read a little about the beliefs of the founding fathers. You ought to research what institutions started hospitals and0 school. In fact, you might want to lay aside Karl Marx and try to comprehend what individual freedom really is. You ought to try to understand what “God given rights are”.
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Walkabout
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:18pmI am anti-smoking. Always have been. It is none of the governments business whether a person smokes or not.
So long as actuaries calculate the risks correctly & smokers pay the correct premiums it is not my concern.
The studies authors need top be black listed for their shoddy hit piece so called scholarship.
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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32pmYour an idiot, once we start judging things in that manor, we’re toast. I’m sure you’re perfect and every thing you do won’t in some way cost me. Yeah right. Smoking is just an easy target. If we give every action in life a monetary value to society………good lord, I’d rather be dead than live in that society.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:49pmWALK…
I’m a smoker. I love smoking. Love it.
I’m cool with paying the ness compensation…. & it should be easy to find in the 6-dollars a pack i pay now…….. but awe, shucks- that money seems to be Congressionally earmarked for “education”.
You hip?
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Curmudgeon
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 11:42amI seem to recall that Obama is a smoker. I guess like Moooooo it’s okay for them to do it but not anyone else.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:17pmThe sad part is the no-information and low-information voters for the Democrats will believe this completely. The next round of conditioning continues full force forward.
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:29pmFunny I have NEVER seen anything “tobacco” at a TEA Party meeting or rally. I haven’t even seen people smoking … but yes if the MSM says it these MORONS who worship Obama will believe it and state it as a “fact”. I would bet that the TEA Party members have less smokers than the general public … or Obama voters .. those people with Obamaphones are more likely to be smokers .. like their Barry.
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GramSam
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:16pmI am a TPer and everything I have been involved in has been on a volutary basis or a donation. We are just every day people that feel the government no older listen to us. They just want our money, and to limit our rights. Starting with the 1st and 2nd amendments. They waste our money and want more. We do have a spending problem.
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TheEDGE
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:22pmWe need to realize that this is much more than a spending problem. We are dealing with out and out evil people who won’t rest until our children live in a third world country.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:05pmYou just fail to understand how you were manipulated.
And then ABANDONED by your party.
Used and abused. Better believe AILES got the message!
Pack up Sarah!
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TheEDGE
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:44pmVerse- BUBBLE!!!
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Git-R-Done
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:30pmVoiceofstupidity – You Marxists have no room to be talking about being used or manipulated when you’re the one who’s whining to the government how the rich should be forced to provide for the needs of society.
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Spqr1
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:10pmIt’s a safe assumption that no one of you have actually read the study. This is just another case of right-wing bitching about a book they’ve never read, a movie they’ve seen, or a TV show they’ve never watched. The state of willful ignorance you all live in only serves the interests of the pollution industry and the nicotine poison industry, that’s where the MONEY comes from.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:16pmWhen the Tea Party fears the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the Tea Party, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson/UNALIEN
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TheEDGE
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:19pmCompelling arguments, maaaan! Bring it all down!
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jman-6
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:22pmOnly a dolt would read any study authored by a marxist professor! As for you may I suggest a little self introspection, are you really that hard up and intellectually dishonest to have to be a troll for OFA? That’s a rhetorical one?
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Max jones
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:22pmI’ve done an unfunded study on the ties between the radical left and the manufacturers of latex condoms.
Its conclusions are undeniable…..I’m sure you can put two and two together.
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pissantno.10
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:22pmspr1 you are one big dummy
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sparkyrules
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:38pmYou forgot the drug industry,the oil industry,the ‘junk’ food industry,the soda industry,the meat industry,the plastic bag and bottle industry,…shall I continue?
Your damn staright thats where the money comes from.Talk about ‘right wing’ bitching.All you lefties do is attack Corporations.While people like you are waiting for a government freebie,WE who happily work for these companies are busy paying taxes so that you can sit on your ass all day and watch Jerry Springer on your big screen tv or bitch about your sorry excuse for a life, on the internet.
I thank God everyday I wasn’t born with the ‘crybaby’ gene.
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Marine25
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:39pm@j-man 6
Stanton Glantz is a Marxist? Where did you see that? I would be interested in reading your source.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:02pmUnalien.. just because you are incredibly paranoid doesn’t mean theres tyranny.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:07pmThe Tea Party OFFICIALLY died last November.
Regards to Allen West and Todd Akin.
And a host of others too numerous to mention.
You guys deserve idols more worthy of your passions
not con artists, hustlers, and self serving grifters.
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Farmhand82
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:16pmWest BARELY lost, and Akin lost for very obvious reasons, because he said something retarded that blew up nationally. We’ll see if the Tea Party is dead or not. It’s certainly at a low spot for sure but passions can be ignited again given the proper spark. The Tea party right now is at war with both parties in a lot of ways and I think that definitely contributes both to its low approval rating and Democratic victory in 2012.
We’ll see if the right can unify again or if it’s going to stay fractured, ensuring Democratic victory for good. Even Democrats might not want that because it NEVER turns out when roughly half the population feels it has noticeably less representation than the other half. That typically is where you see insurgency, terrorism, regional secession attempts and worst case, civil war.
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The912Project
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:09pmGet back to studying binge drinking on college campuses!
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The Third Archon
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:08pm“Americans’ hard earned tax dollars were used to help fund a study that attempted to link the Tea Party movement to the tobacco lobby. The study argues that the Tea Party was not a spontaneous grassroots movement, but rather the brain child of big tobacco.”
If that’s all, then that’s the least of their evils. And we SHOULDN’T be taxing tobacco, or alcohol for that matter, differently than we do other goods. Of course, we also should be regulating more strictly what can go into tobacco, but that’s entirely separate from these notions of “sin taxes.”
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:50pmI agree and disagree.. I do agree completely that we should better regulate the chemicals in cigarettes Much better! however I disagree that alcohol and tobacco should be taxed differently.. The two cost the government quite a bit of money.. for instance hospital and ER visits.. ER especially with alcohol. but both are very detrimental to health and until 2014 the government will continue to foot the bill for those with no insurance in the form of hospital subsidies. Also you have to think of the money it costs for DUI prosecution and jail time.. plus public lawyers. and so on. It seems fair to me! and to put my comment in perspective, I have been a pack a day smoker for 5 years.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:00pmKEATON….
“to put my comment in perspective, I have been a pack a day smoker for 5 years.”
ahhhh? I now see where you get that random respect for individual freedom from. ;
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:18pmhahaha! you nailed it!
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:47pmyou can pry my marlboro reds from my cold dead hands!… and given lung cancer statistics, you might not have to wait too long.. : )
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hpyagl
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 8:30pmKeaton333
Don’t include me in the “WE need to regulate what goes into cigarettes better”. I don’t smoke and I don’t care to have my tax dollars spent to regulate your fear of what you are choosing to inhale into your ignorant body at the rate of a pack a day! You can’t even think through your logic before throwing it out there.
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tonypro
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:08pmOnce again I guess these piles of dung show their stupidity.
SAFF SGT has it right…stay armed, stay alert, stay alive, and above all screw the demons.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:00pmOh come on, see the humor in these trolls! I haven’t seen so many of them since the Blaze started, and their ignorance is so vast it’s impossible not to laugh at them. It makes me ask the important question in MY study of the left, which is, how can they be so stupid and still have feet?
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:59pm“I haven’t seen so many of them since the Blaze started”
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That’s because Zero’s “Cyber Warriors” program is just getting off the ground. You’ll probably be seeing more and more as the year continues.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:08pmIs it illegal to shout Tea Party in a crowded Starbucks…
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:04pmThe Tea Party was a whole bunch of people that found each other after independently realizing that their rights were being infringed… 1st by Bush, then by Obama.
The Tea Party has mutated into a loosely organized group obsessed with reversing Roe v Wade.
It makes sense to me that “big tobacco” would support the group’s initial intentions because the ridiculous war on tobacco is setting the precedent for other UnConstitutional “we know what’s best for you” initiatives.
I’m going to have a smoke, eat some salt & transfats, and watch some Storage Wars tonight. All these Nannys can suck my __ck.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:09pmEast
Exactly!
BTW dont bogart man. Pass that thing over here (:
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The Third Archon
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:11pm“because the ridiculous war on tobacco is setting the precedent for other UnConstitutional “we know what’s best for you†initiatives.”
Yeah, like the “war on drugs” or the “war on terror.” Inane proxies for increasing encroachment on American civil liberties and getting people marching to the fascistic drumbeat of the police state.
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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:23pm3rd……did you just make sense????? Studies, polls and media mean sht these days. Manipulation is the name of the game, say its so, over and over and as Sensei say’s ………It is so. Obviously the week minded are caught up first.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:29pm3rd…..
Welcome to Libertarian-ism amigo.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32pmha ! ..SURF…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGJvzwKqg0
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:47pmEAST, Funny thing is that THE THIRD ACHORN would not be bothered at all if a police state existed just long enough to do away with the 2nd Amendment, then disarm all of the law abiding citizens.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:24pmRJJ…
You’re prolly right.
They are usually the most surprised when the Statist labor-limos show up to get them.
say hey to Jr. & Monk for me. I’m checking out for the night.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:29pmEast
That was great.!!
I have a bose system and played up a bit. My wife came in to see what I was litening to.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:56pmEAST, Have been off this story for a bit, so I bet that you are gone already. But, will do. Monk should be here sometime in the morning and will see this. Not sure when my son will stop by again, but I do hope tomorrow. If he is not called in for work.
RAT, I have Bose speakers too, and I love You Tube, not to mention my music library on here.
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The-Monk
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 5:54amHi Guys,
I’m late but made it. Already have that one saved East : )
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Southernsoul
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:59pmFirst the left says that the TEA Party is dying and going away and then they fret about it every waking moment (and probably in their sleep, too). So which is it?
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:20pmYes .. they are still very much afraid . the TEA Party is not going away .. we are evolving (to use an Obama word) learning to work the system .. and it scares the heck out of both the left and right establishment, most of us are no longer standing on street corners holding signs .. we are working to find the BEST candidates .. and get them elected in the future. I was told on Wednesday by a local Republican official .. that TEA Party members were all white male racists … she was quite surprised to hear that I AM a member of the TEA party … I have know and been a member of the Local Republican WOMAN’S group for over 3 years .. I serve on the membership committee ..
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:20pmYes .. they are still very much afraid . the TEA Party is not going away .. we are evolving (to use an Obama word) learning to work the system .. and it scares the heck out of both the left and right establishment, most of us are no longer standing on street corners holding signs .. we are working to find the BEST candidates .. and get them elected in the future. I was told on Wednesday by a local Republican official .. that TEA Party members were all white male racists … she was quite surprised to hear that I AM a member of the TEA party … I have know and been a member of the Local Republican WOMAN’S group for over 3 years .. I serve on the membership committee ..
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:26pmI was told by a local Republican elected official on Wednesday that the TEA Party is nothing but a “bunch of old white racist men” .. she was quite surprised when I told her that was a MSM LIE … and that I am a member of the TEA Party .. have been since the first April 15th protest. Since I am also a member of the local Republican WOMAN’S Forum … she was indeed “taken aback” (not only that but I am on the membership committee) I told her the MSM lies about the Republicans .. why would they NOT lie about the TEA Party. I asked if she had ever been to a TEA Party meeting or rally … she looked uncomfortable and said she had not.
Just because we are not standing out on street corners holding signs … don’t think we have gone away. We are learning how to organize and work the system .. like the left has done for a very long time … join Freedomworks for more information.
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:32pmCrazy things happening with trying to post on The Blaze ….. AGAIN!
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:53pm@Cat B – I think I know or have heard of the idiot Republican you are talking about.
The local chapter of the Communist Party USA in Phoenix (near where I live) tried to ‘hold a demonstration to bring about a proper revolutionary mindset in Arizona for when the Imperialist West falls.”
Mind you, only two showed up (that is the local chapter of the CPUSA where I live in Phoenix), and I wish you could have seen the look on their faces when I said to them all of their fellow communists have converted to the tea party and are throwing a birthday bash for Glenn Beck.
Oh how they howled.
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CatB
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:19pm@SNOW .. . ROFL … way to confuse them!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:58pmWon’t this piss off all of the chain smoking Hollyweird types?
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OldSurfRat
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:17pmRJJ
You spoke and 3rd testicle showed up on queue.
Nice job!! Can you make him do back flips now.
Does he come with the organ box or seperate. LOL
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:39pmOLDSURFRAT, LOL
I was hoping my son would have time to show up. He would make it interesting here too. Will see what I can do.
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DLV
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:48amTRj- what’s your son’s blaze name?
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:57amThis is what you must know:
Son of Godson . . .Reveal thyself. We need more poop talk.
it is so.
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:56pmAre we there yet,,,,
The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.
Alexis de Tocqueville
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gyro
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:12pmthis close
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:56pmWHAT PART OF “Individual Patriots who had had enough of the Cr@P from the WH and just decided to say ‘Hell NO’ on April 15, 2009″ and adopted the TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY (Tea Party) ” don’t these dweeb-heads get?
You dumb, childish, ridiculous little Liberals… it is beyond you that PEOPLE can do things without being BRIBED or PAID OFF..isn’t it?
D. A’s … There is NO real TEA PARTY organization…there are mailing lists, formed AFTER the PATRIOTS declared HELL NO in 2009…I know lots of people who did attend one or more of these
TEA PARTY meetings to protest the Actions of that dope, and fight against the worst and most dangerous piece of garbage ever to be shoved down the throats of what should be FREE people..Obamacare…
GROW UP you widdle wiberals…. we Patriots don’t need to be forced to, paid to, cajoled into standing up for our Constitution. Geeeeez.
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Stelex
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:29pmIf we could get 10% of the people to refuse to pay up……..order would be restored for a while. Take a stand folks…….they are ******* your money away at an incredible rate and we just keep giving. The Dem mantra now is there is no spending problem, its a monetary allocation problem, IE……you have plenty of money, we want it and will spend it. Wake The Hell Up.
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catty
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:52pmPatty you are the reason they can’t be taken seriously. Pure hysteria.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:15amAMEN STELEX! His approval rating is heading down again…aw, so early in his second term too… and
great men are rising up and speaking out. I loved Rubio’s excellent (best ever) rebuttal of that idiot’s
SOTU fantasy; I love it that “they” made such a big deal over the Water that everyone now knows (if they didn’t before) who Senator Marco Rubio is. I love the sudden appearance of Dr. Ben Carson…NOW that is a man who can REALLY be our FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT – not the whatever who is in the WH NOW…some people say they can prove he’s actually Indonesian/white! They have photos to prove it…who cares. It’s too bad he wasn’t like Dr. Ben…and now we also have the very intelligent and gutsy new Senator from Texas (Amen again) Ted Cruz…and it’s only February of the first year of this dolt’s second term. He’s tried every Marxist, Alinsky tactic, his thugs have nudged and nudged; he done everything he can to bankrupt America…but all he’s succeeding in doing is waking the Sleeping Giant and did we mention technology?
Fracking is going to make us energy independent; 3D manufacturing is going to bring jobs back home and instead of America becoming the doormat for the world to wipe their feet upon…it will once again be the HONEST light shining on the Hill..or we’re in the End Times and Jesus comes. Either way…GOD (therefore we) win!!
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girlnurse
Posted on February 17, 2013 at 12:51pmSTELEX is 100% right! READ it people!
Patty–unfortunately I can’t agree with you on much and sometimes I wonder..hmmm
Rubio is a RINO with his sights set on our guns like the rest of the DemoCONS up on the hill.
Come out of the false right/left paradeim PATTY.
The gubment is ONE party…ALL against “we the sheeple”
One good speech does not make a President or anything else. Thats whats wrong with this dumbed down society…they don’t even know we’re being played! All the while they (both parties) keep conning and spending, conning and spending…on and on it goes…
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OldSurfRat
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:56pm“decades of influence”
What? So over the last 20 years or more I could have been going to Tea Parties. To think all this time I thought I was going to keg parties as a youngster
I do believe that the Tea Party has tobacco smokers, drinkers, pot smokers, straight edger’s etc.
Why because it’s a group of people with different lives and ideas just trying to repair a broken country.
Sure sounds grass roots to me.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:06pmOLDSURFRAT, Because that is simply the way of the left and Dem-wits in general. Attack, attack, and attack even when there is no reason. But, I guess they are preparing for the 2014 elections.
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barber2
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 8:07pmRJJ: Preparing for the next election for sure . Obama is still out there on the trail making his teleprompter addresses . Reminds you of a rock star tour . Did anyone tell him he won ?? Since the Democrats were so uninformed about Benghazi ( nobody seemed to know anything about anything – except that that video caused all of the trouble – oh, that ” mysterious” video they blamed everything on for WEEKS ! ) ..maybe they don’t know they won !
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Saff SGT
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:56pmblah balh blah stay armed, stay alert, stay alive, and above all screw all Liberals
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 7:31pmSounds like good advice and when the commies and other worthless POS freaks take to the streets demanding something for nothing they’ll get lead and it’ll only cost them their worthless lives.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:36amThis is what you must know:
You’re too stupid to possess any firearms. You can’t be trusted. You’re a danger to yourself, your family and your communities. So we’re coming to your homes and we’re going to pry your guns from your warm live hands.
it is so.
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whathappenedtomycountry
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:50pmQuit spending my money on stupid s#%t!!!!
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civilwarcometh
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:55pmI agree 100%..http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/taxpayers-spend-nearly-2-billion-to-deliver-illegal-babies/?cat_orig=us
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oriondma05
Posted on February 15, 2013 at 6:48pmThey could have studied the cost of riot police and repairs for all the Occupy Movement riots, destruction and Union overtaking of the Wisconin and Ohio state houses.
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