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‘Political Correctness Kills!’: TheBlaze Readers Respond to Police Chief Who Said a Gun ‘Is Not a Defensive Weapon’

Feb. 16, 2013 9:51am Madeleine Morgenstern

Readers Respond to Emeryville, California Police Chief Ken James Who Said a Gun Is Not a Defensive Weapon

Emeryville, Calif. police Chief Ken James said a gun “is not a defensive weapon.” (Image source: YouTube)

A California police chief recently opined that a gun “is not a defensive weapon” but rather “an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power.”

“One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon,” Emeryville Police Chief Ken James said at a news conference. “That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon. A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power.”

TheBlaze asked readers whether they agree with the chief’s statement. Here’s what some of you had to say:

CaptMickeyd
A weapon is a defensive weapon when used in defense. Any weapon is an offensive weapon when used in offense. Whether it be a sword, a grenade, a rocket launcher, or a machine gun mounted on a plane. It is the motive behind the use of the weapon that makes it offense or defense.

The police chief should understand this.

Farmhand82
This guy is a moron of the highest caliber. Is he implying then that every time an officer shoots a suspect he is wrong to do so because guns are offensive weapons rather than defensive? Do the police have free reign to assassinate anyone they want then in this guys mind? The logic he tries to present is bafflingly pathetic to the point of being painful. 55 slain police officers is what he presents as evidence that no guns are ever used defensively because…..? I still can’t wrap my head around what he’s trying to argue.

RX4NV
Is it “defensive” or “offensive” is a matter of perspective. A policeman outwardly carries his weapon (ie gun) to show power and intimidate people away from doing something stupid. So yes, to a cop it is an offensive weapon. However, you are in your home at night and someone is prowling outside your door and barges in, the use of a gun becomes a defensive weapon to save your life. It is not intended to show power or intimidation at this point, but to “defend” your life. This police chief has a biased perspective as a cop. I’m sure if he had ever been in a one on one shoot out with a villain, he would realize he is trying to “defend” his life. The trivial fight over “offensive” versus “defensive” is only political, when it comes to protecting my life or others, semantics don’t help.

BONESIII
Why do the liberals have such a base urge to redefine everything? They describe the same things often, conveying the same meaning, but act as if they are morally outraged that a particular term carrying the identical meaning has been used. It’s all so stupid.

The gun is defensive when used to defend yourself. The police chief described exactly this situation. It is utterly pointless for him then to object to the term.

It would be fair to say a gun is not JUST a defensive weapon, to be clear. But to say “it is not a defensive weapon” is indisputably wrong.

To use an analogy, it would be like acting offended or perplexed that a car is called a “vehicle” or “transportation”, and giving the reason “the car often just its in the parking lot not transporting anything. It is used to get people from point A to point B, NOT for transportation. It is not a vehicle, it’s a box with wheels that we use to move around more easily.” This is exactly what liberals do.
Witness also the similar answers Pelosi and others have recently given in trying to deny that we have spending problems. They then go on to admit in different words (sometimes) that the meaning is correct, but object to the term.

Of course, the real reason they do this is to obscure the issue so they can seem “reasonable” when they sneak in foolish, clearly wrong ideas, also usually re-labelled deceptively, like that they want to raise taxes, or ban guns.

SENDTHEMETERORS
I think he should probably retire. He’s seen and heard about too many cops being killed with armor piercing cop killer bullets, something the NRA strongly supports. He’s probably also against explosive bullets, those bullets that explode when they hit their target, such as those President Reagan and James Brady were hit with. A type of ammo the NRA strongly supports because of the 2nd Amendment.

He definitely should step down. His perspective, like that of most policemen, is to protect innocent citizens. His perspective is all the cops and innocent citizens that have been killed with cop killer and explosive bullets, as well as all those people he’s sworn to protect who have been blown away with high capacity weapons. He’s seen too many brains and too much blood splattered on sidewalks and house walls, and too many gun owners who have killed friends, loved ones and themselves with firearms. He’s jaded and no longer capable of serving.

What he hasn’t seen, evidently, is all those people who have saved lives with semi-automatic high capacity weapons, the patriots who whipped out those bad boys to stop some bad guy during the commission of a crime!

The last person you want to listen too on the gun control issue is a cop! They don’t get it!

OLDPATRIOT55
I’ve been a cop for 40 years and have never heard such dribble in my life! People are alive today because I was there to DEFEND them. Criminals are dead today because a homeowner was armed to DEFEND his home. It’s really as simple as that! Political Correctness Kills!

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Comments (251)

Small World
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:00am
Propaganda…just keep repeating the lie. So when are the police going to turn in their guns???????????

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- AUsername
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:15am
  Cops don’t use guns to intimidate and show power they use tasers and tackle people for that.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:37am
  They will never turn them in. They are too useful when confronting and gunning down old women delivering newspapers.
  
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- afvetfirewoman
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:49am
  cause tasers are funnier on Youtube
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:53am
  “… Police Chief Who Said a Gun ‘Is Not a Defensive Weapon’”
  
  The fact that thousands of people have “defended” themselves with a gun, makes him a fool.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:55am
  They will never give them up. They are too useful for smoking old women delivering newspapers.
  
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- JohnofOregon
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:01pm
  Did I just read this right. Please come to our town and rob us we are unarmed.
  
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- 19RANDY59
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:04pm
  He is being told what to say by his union bosses. If law abiding citizens can take care of themselves, they won’t need as many police.
  
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- glabaga
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:09pm
  Guns are offensive weapons. They are not shields. The only way they are effective is when they are fired, which if an offensive act. That does not mean the offensive act cannot be for defensive purposes.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:20pm
  Glabaga, stop being so foolish or I’ll hit you over the head with my defensive shield.
  
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- Chuck7884
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:22pm
  @19RANDY59 at his rank he is Management. those pulling his strings would be the Politicians. He has no Union Protection.At what rank does a officer loses his union protection Lt. and up I would assume.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:39pm
  This is evidently a SECOND THREAD on this subject…??? WHY DO THAT??? Where is the original?
  AS IN:
  
  PATTY HENRY
  
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:32am
  and…tell me this guy doesn’t look like he fell out of the makeup trailer for a Western B-flick ! Really Dude? How long it take you to fix your ****. WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE PEOPLE and pay them with TAX money too???
  
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  PATTY HENRY
  
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:53am
  Sheriff-Dude: I don’t care if a gun is a pot sticker or a tomato plant stake…if I can use it to protect my home, my family from your out-of-control gangs, and drug soaked illegals, your gutless wonders who have “offensive guns” to use against us while your bloody 911 line is busy or we’re put on hold…YOU BETCHA we’ll have a gun… GO sit on it. We, the Patriots, are not going to be “bullied” into giving up our guns.
  
  It is CLEAR that the PC police have gone way too far. They are attempting to kill FREE SPEACH IN the USA. Dr. Ben Carson was 1000% correct.
  
  The reason the BLAZE is popular is because people are supposed to be able to speak their minds.
  Are we?
  
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- 13th Imam
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:44pm
  What was really funny was “SENDTHEMETEORS” use as a respondent. He ,She , It, is a liberal puke that has been mugged one too many times but can’t seem to make the conservative connection.
  
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- mattmo79
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:55pm
  Criminals use guns as an offensive weapon, homeowners and others that are attacked by criminals use guns as defensive weapons! Duh!
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:58pm
  Those are some insightful comments. Well done.
  
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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:05pm
  That “Police Chief” looks like he smoked one too many Doobies !
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:05pm
  SendTheMeteors, how was your Russian vacation?
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:13pm
  Big props to everyone who quoted in this story! I now have a new goal!
  
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- whatahka
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:23pm
  I guess in this case…..the best defense is a good offense.
  
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- 13th Imam
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:28pm
  Lofty goals are often attained. For a mommy’s basement dweller I suppose that getting your 333 or 666 quoted on a site would be a high achievement. Nah, just kiddin. Loser
  
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- Thomas
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:50pm
  This cop has a dangerous way of looking at things. We don’t live under oppression and threats in the united states even from cops. Its scary that this man still has a job.
  
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- 000degrees
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:57pm
  Honestly…..the article uses meteor’s thread??????
  
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- Farmhand82
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:38pm
  Wow they used my rambling post? I actually thought it was kinda terrible since I was literally speechless and having a hard time conveying my disbelief. Not even Obama or Feinstein outwardly deny that firearms are used for self defense. They claim that they support the second amendment for self defense and hunting and that they’re just getting rid of the “unreasonable” weapons that people will never need for those two purposes. If you take their word at face value rather than as simple political maneuvering and incrimentalism, then this police chief is actually undermining the administration’s stance in claiming firearms aren’t used for defense. Even lefties should be annoyed by this guys stupid statement.
  
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- glabaga
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 2:39pm
  The_Jerk, That’s a good one. Defensive shield for offensive purpose… it appears you understand my point completely.
  
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- DSTSS2010
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:10pm
  A gun is “Defensive”, it’s this IDIOT that is “Offensive.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 3:24pm
  If what he believes is true, then I suppose he thinks that the police are just trying to “intimidate and show their power” when they are confronted by a perp with a handgun during a routine traffic stop.
  It’s amazing, but not too surprising, considering it’s California, that this joker is still a Police Chief.
  
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- oldguy49
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 5:12pm
  i do believe they will be defensive weapons whe government tries to take them……………..
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 5:17pm
  Send the Meteors comment was insightful as to how ignorant he or she is. A rimfire 22 is not an explosive bullet. Send the Meteors has no knowledge of the specific ammunition used, but is more than willing to lie on a public forum & make stuff up.
  
  After a couple of retellings Meteors will be convinced that .22 rimfire ammo could be used in an AAA role.
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:30pm
  How did this moron get to be a police chief?
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:18pm
  Walkabout, you seem to have missed my point. I was talking about this Police Chiefs perspective on gun violence and how it may have been influenced by the gun deaths he’s seen, something you know nothing about.
  
  That’s the exact thing that makes you an expert.
- addie
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 12:32am
  @glabaga if a cornerback intercepts a football and makes a touchdown, do they call it an offensive touchdown?
  
  In other words, a gun is a tool that can be used offensively of defensively, just like a football. it depends on how it is being used.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 1:21am
  I call on the Fraternal Order of Police, the largest Police Union in the United States, to call a mandatory 5 day Blue Flu in California, New York, and now Colorado to show their disapproval of these Anti-American States that Infringe on American’s Constitutional Rights.
  
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- Soulfire1975
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 9:02am
  “BONESIII
  Why do the liberals have such a base urge to redefine everything?”
  
  It is how they get people scared and to back them in to what they want done. Like they try to take our freedom of speech away when I say a black man they scream African American. Do they ever get pissed when I bring up the fact that an African American is someone who is born in Africa and moved to the United states and became a citizen. There is a super model who is white from South Africa who is an African American.
  
  PC is an attempt to control another person. It has to go and I won’t fall in line to support it.
  
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- petey
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 11:45am
  Just drove through Emeryville on my way home from work.
  He may say that now,because Emeryville, 20yrs ago was a waste land.
  High tech,new condos and business have changed the face of Emeryville quite a bit.
  Lets have his officers turn their guns in.
  I bet they will,especially with Oakland just next door.Ha!
  
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- AP1938
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 6:06pm
  Frankly I find his COMMENTS offensive. Enough said
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 8:16pm
  Sendthemeteors, I liked you quote in the article though it did have some glaring errors that show you need a little more education on. There is no such thing as a “cop killer” bullet. That is the reason why the NRA refuses to back bans on bullets based on their ability to penetrate normal police body armor. ANY full metal jacketed (the rounds required for military use by the Geneva convention because they cause less grievous wounds) rifle rounds will penetrate normal police body armor, in fact virtually any rifle round will. As I recall, President Reagan was shot with a frangible round. They don’t “explode” on impact, they break apart. The primary reason for frangible ammo is safety. They do not over penetrate and are used by US Air Marshals for that reason. The NRA supports their production and use because inside of a home, they are unlikely to penetrate walls and endanger people on the other side.
  
  Other than those two examples of lack of knowledge, your post was good.
  
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- NukeHaze
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 11:58pm
  This moronic sorry excuse for a law enforcement “general” is openly admitting that he does not support the Second Amendment by utilizing his First amendment. Well, to those idiots, I say if the voice that they believe I do not have the right to bear arms, then they do not have the right to free speech.
  
  He is also openly admitting that he and other police under him blatantly use their guns with every intention of intimidating the public, not just presumed or alleged perpetrators, into not having free speech of their own else they will scare you more with their own guns. This idiot did not think out his Probozo speech very well.
  
  We are all fed up with politicians and their puppets who swer to uphold and defend the Constitution and then do everything they can to bypass or destroy it. They fully believe this is a country NOT OF, BY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE. It is exactly because of progressive cowards like him that we even have free speech, right to bear arms, and the rest of the Bill of Rights.
  
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fedlibertarian
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:58am
This ‘cop’ and those around him are not speaking what they believe. They are saying it because they are being ordered to say it. They serve other powers. Make no mistake THEY know EXACTLY what they are saying and the implications thereof.

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- ImChiquita
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:22am
  I completely agree with you.
  
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- Saff SGT
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:38am
  They knew exactly what they were saying this was a booster message for all their Communist followers. We will defeat these Communist jerk offs one by one
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:39am
  Fed’s comment=nail on head. But, even if they are ordered to say it, they are still on the side of the enemy. And patriots will not forget that when the time comes.
  
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- neverending
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:10pm
  @FEDLIBERTARIAN – and therein lies the frightening part.
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 9:47pm
  SENDTHEMETEORS..aka …JZS.
  
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- RIDEMODELS
  Posted on February 18, 2013 at 3:59am
  All cops turn in their guns when they retire….and then get one the first Christmas that comes around after…….Every cop I know has a gun now and even when they were on duty they had a throw away with blood on it….The End.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:54am
I’m thinking That THEBLAZE…’ IQ MUCH‘…Just might want to take a course in SEVER SARCASM..

Because they just proved to be IDIOTS publishing SENTHEMETEORS as a comment that is against this police officer.

If you have ever READ THIS PERSON COMMENTS.
you would know he/she IS A TOTAL TROLL.

Not to mention in her/his own mind ,he/she was cleverly mocking pro-second amendment gun owners..In the blaze’s case it worked, because it went right over their head.

READ..READ ..READ..

TO SENDTHEMETEORS …YOU WON THAT ROUND..!

Give credit where credits due.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:23pm
  Yes, we should “sever sarcasm[sic erat scriptum]“, but keep your day job.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 4:09pm
  Apparently a lot of things are going over their heads. I can’t believe they quoted this sarcastic smartass. Next they will be quoting Keaton and Encinom. If you can’t tell complete ******** from the honest truth, you shouldn’t be reporting.
  
  I also noticed they just posted the same exact story twice on this site about the deodorant ad.
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/02/15/this-is-probably-the-best-deodorant-ad-youve-ever-seen/
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/16/this-deodorant-ad-is-meant-to-make-you-sweat/
  
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paulwbrown
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:53am
The uninformed or perhaps more accurately the ignorant chief has one star on his shoulder for every 2500 people in Emeryville.

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LeFaux Jew
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:53am
I am retired now.
The problem in LE is that no cops could ever admit or go for help with PTSD because they will force you out. Many PTSD people don’t like violence and guns anymore. So most of them suffer in silence and continue to work. I lost a good friend because of it (got to the point where he could not longer leave his house), they forced him out.

http://www.policesuicideprevention.com/id62.html

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- Tachy320
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 8:15am
  This has nothing to do with PTSD. PTSD doesn’t cause you to have liberal views. And I think that just like our soldiers, there are more cops willing to seek help for PTSD although it is more difficult to see in a police officer as it happens over many years. With soldiers it can happen in a shorter period like a deployment. Besides Police Chiefs like this guy has most likely never worked as a Cop much. Most good cops don’t have any desire to be a pencil pushing Mayoral appointee. He most likely was a DARE officer his whole career.
  Send the Meteors- You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen on here. You have no idea what you are talking about and have no idea what a cop killer bullet is. It’s any bullet that a cop can be killed with I suppose. And how much death and bloody brains on the sidewalk have you seen? I’ve seen my fair share and I don’t have these views. Im even more conservative because I’ve seen what liberal ideals do to people.
  
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LeFaux Jew
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:48am
It could be, in reality, he is just suffering long term affects of PTSD.

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- RIDEMODELS
  Posted on February 18, 2013 at 4:14am
  I have never in my life seen so many Liberals hate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights……I thought Gay people were suppose to be Happy??
  
  I do believe that the Taliban kill Gay men for being Gay……..So do they want Sharia law?
  I am very very confused about Gay people anymore, they want the Freedom to be Gay but at the same time they want the Second Amendment taken away…..You crazy crazy Gay people.
  
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Charybdis
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:36am
The number of crimes prevented by the simple knowledge of the presence of a gun is beyond count. Go ahead and file that fact under the “intimidation” aspect of firearms if you want. Who cares? The truth is, the crime never happened because the perp saw or otherwise knew about a gun carried by a private citizen. The gun didn’t have to do anything but just exist. Is that an “offensive” tactic? Again, who cares?? That man is just a fool.

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maggiepie
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:36am
As a formet law enforcement officer, I must ask “where did he get his training?
Everything we were taught was with the sole purpose of DEFENDING yourself,
whether it was hand to hand combat or firearms training.

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- paulwbrown
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:56am
  I would add to defend ourselves we were also taught, and perhaps more importantly, to protect others, the primary function of law enforcement.
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:40am
  Not according to SCOTUS Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005). The media mantra is of “going home at the end of their shift.”
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:53am
  Paul,
  Huff is correct. There is no obligation on the part of the police to provide protection for the public. Oh, they will use taxpayer dollars to protect THEMSELVES, ie witness the recent Chris Dorner “episode”, but not to protect your ****. They are there to protect crooked politicians and the STATE. Those that vote for their pensions and pay raises. They could not care less about you and your family.
  
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- paulwbrown
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 7:26pm
  Mil-Dot, I know exactly what you mean and there is a good deal of truth to it. However, a lot of law enforcement officers have selflessly given their lives to protect civilians, and most officers would do so if it came down to it. I have spent four decades in state, federal, and local law enforcement, and am not yet ready to give it up.
  
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GrandpaOf4
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:33am
This is an great example of EXACTLY the type of cop we do not want. Guys like this are why we see stories of police abuse of power. His perspective is that any tool in his arsenal is there for offense or intimidation. Really? Is that why we have police and arm them with weapons? To intimidate us? Come on over an see if you can intimidate me. Bring your gun. Ya might need it.
Someone fire this jerk before he hurts someone. Cops with this attitude are dangerous. Power tripper. A sick mental defective.

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- BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 4:34pm
  Is it not even written on the squad cars themselves “To serve and to protect.” And protect is just another word for defend. So what is that gun on his belt for then? I think he totally believes his job is not to protect and defend, but to intimidate into submission. A couple of years ago, when I first started on the Blaze, it shocked me at how so many people were anti-cop. I was brought up believing that we are to respect police officers. And except for a few personal experiences, I had no reason to think otherwise. But the more time passes and the more stories I read where some cop has overstepped his bounds of authority makes me second guess this altogether.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:32am
Seems a bit incestuous to me, trolls commenting on trollery. Should we expect DaBlasé readers respond to DaBlasé trolls on trollery? Move on, nothing worth while here.
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crusaderx9
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:29am
This city worker is just another useful idiot to the progressives pulling his strings.

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2GodBeTheGlory
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:24am
Anyone who wishes to disarm the public should be disarmed themselves FIRST, as well as their body guards and local police for 10 years. Then I would consider the public being disarmed.

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Michelle_Baboonbutt
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:22am
I wish I was a genius like SENDTHEMETEORS, Liberal Dick.

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hades3
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:18am
I hope the Chief is not “offended” by these “defensive” responses to his “lame brain” comments !

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- Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:35am
  Don’t worry, he won’t be offended. He’s mental.
  
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- RIDEMODELS
  Posted on February 18, 2013 at 4:00am
  Mark my words…He will own a gun on retirement day as does every retired cop I know.
  
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Ishmot2
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:15am
SENDTHEMETERORS

You are a complete MORON! I’m glad they posted your stupid comment to show how the brain of a ******* work and makes no sense what so ever. You are right, he should step down, because he is not there to defend people, which is what he was hired to do. No room for a ******* police Chief. I wonder how they even come across someone in a position like this with such ass-nine opinion?

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:29am
  Dang, I was hovering at another story too long and missed MEAT. Must have been another doozy of an idiotic statement or accusation!
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:44am
  Wiping the egg from my face. I see the MEAT post now. I did get here late and while scrolling down to get a quick glance at how late I was to get to this story.
  Okay MEAT, getting your research data from Hollyweird, or just making it up as usual? Reagan and Brady were shot with a 22-caliber Rohm RG-14 revolver. A cheap piece of crap that really could be considered a Saturday night special. Hinkley managed to get close enough and got Brady in the head which did cause serious damage. While the Secret Service was pushing the president into the back seat of his limo a fired round struck the B pillar from angle and ricocheted into Reagan’s side under his arm, which was apparently raise enough during the act of being tackled and shoved into the car. That physical roughness masked the feeling of the bullet strike while the Secret Service had thought that the open but armored door had stopped any rounds headed in that direction. As Reagan felt worse within a very brief time he was rushed to a hospital. I shoot an abundance of .22 quite often and I do not know of any armor piercing cop killer rounds in this caliber. Yeah, they can theoretically be hand made, but beyond the finances of the mentally disturbed Hinkley.
  Speaking of “mentally disturbed” have you noticed a pattern with the multitude of these shootings?
  
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- OldSurfRat
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:12am
  LOL RJJ
  
  sorry did not mean to hold you up. However did respond to it..
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:26am
  OLDSURFRAT, now have both stories up in different tabs, so I saw that, and responded again as well.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:35am
  Geez,
  Can you believe that out of all the Blaze posters, they chose the meat-head’s post? Who would have thunk that?
  
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paulwbrown
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:12am
If he was thinking, what was he thinking about? What an idiot to make such an absurd comment. But then look at the him with four large stars on his shoulders from a town I have never heard of as a former CA resident. I hope that he is embarrassed because if he is not, then he is even more pathetic than I originally thought.

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lel2007
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:11am
Well of course a gun is NOT a defensive weapon. As we all knew, and were recently reminded by our government, a SCISSOR is the definitive best choice defensive weapon.

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- klopnuts
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:58pm
  sorry your wrong. Joe told us the best defensive weapon is a double barrel shotgun loaded with 00buck. :)
  The thing about this cops statements is that in the police academy I was always taught that the most powerful thing on a uniform is the badge. And if he uses his firearm for intimidation why wouldnt he at least carry one of those terrible “assault rifles”?
  
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marssnw
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:10am
HUH!! This is not really a article. This is a copy and paste from our comments. I could have read the same thing in the comment section.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:22am
  Yep, it’s a lame concept.
  
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- GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:52am
  Tomorrow the review of this review…well, I mean in case you missed some really ******* important commment of Send The Meteors….
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:11am
  Hi Guys,
  
  I thinks it’s a test. I’ll explain later. 95% sure of this. : )
  
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- lbesq
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:07pm
  Especially Send the Metors comments, Pretty sure it was a “sarcastic” response. Maybe it’s just me.
  
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- Jake Dog2
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 4:52pm
  Hi Monk
  I hope it is a test because it is dumb
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:52pm
  It’s called fishing for clicks…
  
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:08am
Respond as in write him a letter?

How exactly is Chief James going to see these missives?

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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:53am
  More commie friends of yours??http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/16/democrats-seek-to-ban-hunting-ammunition-in-wisconsin-would-make-it-illegal-to-hunt-deer-and-bear-in-the-state/
  
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- EVANROOD
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:09pm
  CIVIL! I wonder if a couple these reps were some of the ones that ran away to Illinois, to avoid doing their jobs when the state house was under siege from the commie union libs? Or we’re those state sens?
  
  Speaking of commies! How are you this morning MARYBETHIZACOMMIE? A little something good in the coffee to wash down the morning pill buzzzzz?
  
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- marybethelizabeth
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:12pm
  Theblaze owes an apology for embarrassing these people by reprinting the above name calling and general ridiculous almost vitriol.
  
  Anyone hear Tom Scharpling and Tim Heidecker’s send up of theblaze commenters as “microbloggers”?
  
  Are the above posters the real people who are paid to post here to discredit the conservative point of view?
  
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historyguy48
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:07am
The sheer unmitigated stupidity of this guys specious argument is unbelievable. It falls right in with with most of the liberal nonsense being spouted throughout the MSM.
What is even dumber is thinking you are safe only because of your local police or because you have a home security system. The local police will show up five minutes, or more, after the bad guys have gone, and most home security systems alarms are simply ignored by the police. As it has always been, you are responsible for your own security, no one else.
I wouldn’t be sitting here and writing this today if I hadn’t been armed 12 years ago when two armed intruders broke into my home. They had already raped and killed several senior citizens in the county where I lived at that time. They were victims, I wasn’t.

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- afvetfirewoman
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:17am
  For those of you who do not know the sequence:
  – you dial 911
  – A dispatcher whose qualifications may only be a HS diploma and the ability to type 25 WPM answers and asks a standard litany of “pertinent questions”
  – The dispatcher, BY STANDARD, is allowed 1 full minute to generate a response
  – Depending on where you live, the STANDARD, is another 4 minutes in city limits
  – If you live rurally – well, my Sheriff said: “Just don’t move the bodies”
  
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afvetfirewoman
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:06am
Such stupidity is so ingrained in this Officer’s head that we will never correct or rehabilitate him. Always remember – when seconds count, police are only minutes away!

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- ADNIL
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 12:29pm
  Where I live maybe more like 30 to 40 minutes.
  
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bonesiii
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:04am
Whoa I got quoted. Might as well add my typocorrect then. :P Meant, the car “sits” in the parking lot. >_>

And OldPatriot55 sums it all up perfectly. Political correctness makes liberals feel good, while killing people. Somehow we need to break through their fog and help them see this… then maybe, just maybe, they’d stop feeling so good about it and wake up. One can wish, anyways, and pray. :)

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- NHwinter
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:19am
  Political Correctness is a communist idea. They are using it to the max today to accomplish their goal.
  
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- bonesiii
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:51am
  Very true. The goal being power hunger. Of course, that is some of them, especially the elites, not necessarily everybody being duped by those elitists into voting for them. I guess I was mainly talking about reaching them.
  
  Of course, ideally we could show even the power hungry why power hunger is bad even for them. *shrugs*
  
  I like what was said in the recent Limbaugh letter and attributed to Reagan, that optimists win. :) It may be an impossible hurdle and I’m sure we’ll always have some of the “too far gone” types with us, but optimism is still the best hope. *shrugs*
  
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Advection
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:03am
Google the words “shooting deemed self defense” and you will find a zillion incidents where people were legally declared to have justifiably “defended” themselves by shooting someone else. And California is no different than anywhere else as far as that goes.

This chief of police is lying because he knows what he’s saying is untrue. The police are attempting to take away our rights by deception.

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- retribution11
  Posted on February 17, 2013 at 12:02pm
  when seconds count,the police are only minutes away
  
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willbedone
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:02am
For heavens sake, The Police Chief is in California. What more can you expect? To keep the mind pollution in California quarantined, we should expel California from the union and put up a border fence.

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Fubared
Posted on February 16, 2013 at 10:00am
MeatEeyors is famous now. What drivel too-for those who missed it the first time, it aligns with a union thug to further detract from common sense, to continue a lib/prog meme. Wordy moron is still a moron.

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- Fubared
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:01am
  Well said; we shouldn’t engage it knowing it’s m.o., but it is often fun-
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 11:02am
  FORMER11BRAVO, A few of us believe MEAT is the resurrection of the site name here JZS, http://www.theblaze.com/users/jzs/ . His last post under that name was shortly before you arrived on scene so you many not remember him. I am about 99.999% positive they are the same person. Generally keep the same hours on the site, usually late at night, but had occasional earlier in the evening posts. Also, say the same general things, while using some of the same reference points, and have the very same agendas.
  
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- GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
  Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:11pm
  They hate themselves so much, that they can’t bear their disgusting personality along with their new character (Which is new in name only) for so long. They need recycling process from time to time getting new profiles. Do you remember the movie Highlander?…well, these are like Highlanders of eternal c.r.a.p., getting new identities. Thanks for the explanation RJJ, I was going to ask about JZS…haven’t seen him for a while…..
  
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