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Gay Man Clashes With Fiery Preacher on NYC Subway: ‘I’m a Good Man and I’m a Gay Man — and Jesus Loves Me!’

Feb. 19, 2013 8:27am

Street preachers are relatively common in New York City. But when these individuals take their messages from outdoors to the confines of subway cars, patrons sometimes get agitated. After all, many of these pastors, while well-intentioned, yell their sermons and force their ideals upon patrons. In response, weary riders tend to ignore the displays, rolling their eyes or tuning the preachers out entirely.

In a video that was uploaded to YouTube a few days ago, though, one patron decided to speak up after a man preaching on the subway took aim at homosexuality.

“What the hell are you teaching our children that two men that lay together and have sex,” the preacher can be heard saying in a video captured by a cell phone. “What are you teaching the younger generation?”

As he continued, some spoke out against his message, calling him “full of hate,” “ignorant,” “scared” and “bad,” however he was dissuaded from stopping. In addition to claiming that singer Michael Jackson “died, because he was gay,” the man spoke about anatomy and his views on same-sex relationships.

“You can’t put to men together,” he continued. “Men don’t got no breasts.”

One of the patrons listening to these messages simply couldn’t take the diatribe any longer. He jumped out of his seat, faced the preacher and said, “I’m a man and I’m a good man — and I’m a gay man and Jesus loves me.” He continued, repeating the line that Christ loves him at least two additional times.

The preacher responded fervently. As the two continued to clash, the self-described gay man called the preacher a “false prophet.”

“Jesus is love,” he said, getting a round of applause from those on the train.

Watch the clash unfold, below:

(H/T: Gawker)

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  • todd147
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:27am

    Obviously Jesus loves the sinner and hates the sin. This man is correct in saying that Jesus loves him. He died for him. And this man is no less in need of Christ’s forgiveness than anyone else. But also, understand, that God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of the homosexuals. He destroyed it because of the public openly condoning it. Which is what the US is trying to do now. OOOF!

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:17am

    @SEACHER 619:

    once again: I had the high powered successful career with a Masters DEgree. I HAVE the successful 30+ year marriage with grown children and grandchildren. I already retired at 54. When you, young man, have squatted on this earth, and pushed out in pain, THREE complete human beings, raised THEM to successful adulthood with their DEGREES and CAREERS and have grandchildren then you can “preach” to me okay? Until then. You got no game as the young people say! You got nothing but your UNBELIEF which you so PROUDLY HIDE behind and what is that? Unbelief? You have ZERO, You belief in NOTHING. NOTHING from NOTHING equals what? NOTHING! Ding! Ding! Johnny! Give him what is behind door number 13! Oh. sorry kid. Only jackasses left. Enjoy your mule!

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:12am

    @SEARCHER619:

    ATHEISM 101: Maybe if I pretend that God doesn’t exist he won’t be able to judge me for the things I am doing right now in front of this computer screen that I really feel ashamed for.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:09am

    @SEARCHER619:I don’t really expect you to get this based on your comment. I give money to those in need when I can. And ONLY to those I believe really are in need and not running a con on me. It must be nice to think you KNOW things when in reality you really don’t know.

    @SEARCHER619:
    And there it is. The little whiney push back I expect from a child. Why didn’t you just put up your hand and say, “You don’t know me! You don’t know me!” Oh yes I do. You are like every other young ATHEIST I have met lately that had the “rules” of the Church or the “Bible get in the way of sleeping with their girlfriend, drinking, smoking, and watching porn. You LEFT the CHURCH so you could go SIN. The Church and the Bible “interferred” with your “lifestyle” and “life choices” and “boo hoo” dude. I heard it a million times already! Your life from this point on is in one downward spiral. Down. Down. Down. To the dregs. Your negative out put and assertions of “arrogant” and “ignorant” belie a deeper truth. YOU are MISERABLE! FACE IT! You’re miserable! As are all people who live a life of sin and self indulgence and unbelief. When confronted what do you do? You simply say, “arrogant” or “ignorant” but who truly is the “arrogant” or “ignorant” one in this scenario? You HAD it all and you threw it away for what? Porn? drinking? sex with girlfriend? That wasn’t SMART, was it? No. young man. YOU are the foolish childish one in this scenario.

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  • Tacair12
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:05am

    The gay man is right. Jesus does love him and wants him to have the very best and homosexuality is not the best. No matter how good he thinks he is, on his own, he cannot meet God’s standard of righteousness. Only through the righteousness of Jesus Christ can he attain that level of righteousness. By coming to him, he will realize that God’s way is the best.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:02am

    @Searcher 619:

    Don’t forget to keep calling me “arrogant” and “ignorant” as you live in your mamas basement. And rail on Christians. And the Church. And the Bible. For your own failed life of sin. You can’t turn your life around on me dude! I won’t let you! Take that! Booya!

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:07pm

      LIZ….I smell a dollop of Roman theology in your comments….am I right. R U A papist?

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:58am

    @SEARCHER 619:
    Your arrogance is exactly what i have come to expect from the ignorant. I love how you assume to know my past and my motives. Fact is I was brought up in a christian home. My parents I went to Sunday school and church services as a child until my mother and father felt I was old enough to understand what was being taught in church and whether or not I believed it. I did not believe. People like YOU turned me into an Atheist. ”
    @SEARCHER619:
    I love it when Atheists say that somehow people like me “turned” you into an Atheist. Way to take NO responsibility for your OWN life choices dude! You’re an Atheist because you don’t want to see the FAILURES in your own life and would rather BLAME people like me who you don’t even know. LAME! LAME! GUTLESS! You don’t have the MORAL COURAGE To take a searching and FEARLESS moral inventory of your own life because you KNOW you will come up empty handed and bankrupt. But keep blaming me and Church people okay? Because that will certainly turn you into an adult instead of the whiney negative immature BRAT you are! What a child!

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:00am

      I could run circles around your “intelligence” and “unbelief” all day long dude! You are a self indulgent brat and a child! I feel sorry for your parents! Tell me where I can send them a “I’m sorry your kid is such a selfish whiny self indulgent brat!” How proud they must be of you! Not!

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:54am

    TEXAN832
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:30am
    Normally this bunch is a touch more inteligent than ohter forums. Given that this topic is touching relgion and morality I sorta expected better. I was expecting this level of dumbassery”

    @TEXAN832:

    Perhaps your conscience is being “pricked?” Intelligence takes many forms. You don’t own the dictionary definition of it do you? Or the dictionary definition of morality? or religion? Or even dumbassery? If you don’t like the way the conversation is going don’t participate. But don’t even think for a minute that most of us aren’t highly degreed and intelligent people because we are. I could run circles around you all day long.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:50am

    SEARCHER619
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:16am
    So tell me this. Tribes living in the amazon who have no knowledge of your ‘God” or your religion. What happens to them for breaking your religious laws which they don’t even know exist?

    @ SEARCHER619:

    They do know they exist. They are already practicing some of them. Their “understanding” needs to be enlightened. This is the reason for “the sent ones” to correct them, to get them to stop some of their destructive social and cultural practices. Many missionaries gave their lives to help primitive people stop eating other people (cannabilism) and stop other behavior that was absolutely brutal. Many tribes have thrived on the basis of “treachery” and this was their highest value in their primitive lives. If they could cheat others, lure others to their deaths, and so forth, they were given high honors. The acceptance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ended this value and replaced it with human respect, dignity of others and a higher value on life and cooperative community.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 12:56pm

      You really don’t understand enough about the world…a quick an easy start is to get a subscription to National Geographic magazine..it’s not all there but it’s a start. It’s funny you think you could run circles around someones intelligence even though you have no understanding of human cultures. Boo ya

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  • GuruMeditation
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:43am

    The “gay man” speaks the truth, but what he does is wrong. Sin is to Man as rot is to apple. Realize we are sinners. It’s our responsibility to fight this nature. This is why WE ALL need The Lord and his mercy.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:42am

    SEARCHER619
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:56am
    I know quite a few gay people who HATE the flamboyant and militant homosexuals. They also view those “Gay Pride” parades as freak-shows and damaging to the public image of homosexuals as a whole.”

    @SEARCHER: You do not disappoint. I was just waiting for the “HATE” word to come out. Thanks for being predictable.

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  • flamegonesilver
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:39am

    John 8: 1-11

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  • The Realist
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:36am

    Homosayswhat?

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  • The Realist
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:36am

    **** says what?

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  • Totally Domestic
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:30am

    Don’t cast your pearls before swine

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:26am

    SEARCHER619
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:13am
    the bible also teaches that it isn’t your place to judge others. that is for God to do. Your job is to love each other regardless of the sins real or imagined we all commit.

    @SEARCHERS619.
    That is simply another politically correct lie. The Bible gives me ample room to make judgements. You and I make judgements all day long. In fact, in Corinthians, the Apostle Paul told the Church to “throw the woman and her son out” of the Church for sleeping together okay? The Bible gives me PLENTY of Authority to make judgements.

    Would YOU let YOUR 16 year old daughter go out of YOUR HOUSE with a young slick dude of 18 who rode up on a motorcycle with a stick of weed and a six pack open on the seat of his motorcycle? Would you let her go with this guy? NOPE! You and I both know you wouldn’t cause he would “corrupt your daughter”, right? Yep. You KNOW he would. Therefore, You would assess the situation, his behavior, his age, your daughters age and MAKE A JUDGEMENT right then and there and you would tell your daughter to get back in the house, wouldn’t you?

    So, welcome to your own life of 24-7 judgements. You do THIS all day long. You make JUDGEMENTS about who you will do business with, who you will associate with and your family. What you wrote up above is a hypocritical lie. You don’t even live this way.

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  • capitalismrocks
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:22am

    In today’s liberalized “PC” world, the answer is very clear, the gay guy is racist, I mean how can he question a black man, its obvious that this was all racially motivated and the gay guy is racist, right?

    {sarcasm mode now turned off}

    Street Preachers are deterimental on so many levels, don’t push yourself and your beliefs on others like that, I don’t want to see that anymore than a gay rights parade or a anything else, if that is your belief or view, great – its yours PERSONALLY and you should share it with those who you are close with and want to have a discussion about it, don’t run around making a public spectacle of yourself and push your agenda on others.

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  • Vision Harry
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:19am

    Let’s look at this in a logical sense. Tab A joined with Slot B reproduces either Tab A or Slot B.
    Two Tab A’s or two Slot B’s will never produce either Tab A or Slot B, thus removing themselves from existence. God’s plan is “To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man”. Any other action is anathema to His purpose.
    I propose that the first naturally occurring offspring of a gay couple may vote on gay marriage.

    Seems Logical

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  • searcher619
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:11am

    I remember these guys. When I lived in NYC not too long ago I started out reading while on the subway until I had one of these annoying preachers get on. He was obnoxiously loud and rude. After experiencing these guys a couple more times I stopped reading on the subway and started listening to music to drown them out when they cam on. The subway is not the place for people to try and force their religious/political views on others who can’t simply walk away when they don’t want to hear you ramble. I have no issues with the panhandlers and street performers who regularly came on to try and make a buck. At least they are trying to make money and not robing you. I would make sure I had some cash on me just so i had something to give them.

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:20am

      You will “tune out” the preacher but give money to the panhandlers? Why? Is it because the preacher has nothing to offer you that your “tunes” do or is it easier to not engage the preacher and just throw some coins in the cup? What are you avoiding? Why don’t you engage the street preacher? Why not ask him or her some questions? The problem in our society is everyone wants to “tune out” and then just throw a few coins at a panhandler. What does that fix?

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    • searcher619
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:47am

      shorelineliz:
      “You will “tune out” the preacher but give money to the panhandlers? Why? Is it because the preacher has nothing to offer you that your “tunes” do or is it easier to not engage the preacher and just throw some coins in the cup? ”

      Your arrogance is exactly what i have come to expect from the ignorant. I love how you assume to know my past and my motives. Fact is I was brought up in a christian home. My parents I went to Sunday school and church services as a child until my mother and father felt I was old enough to understand what was being taught in church and whether or not I believed it. I did not believe. People like YOU turned me into an Atheist. It wasn’t till i was in my 20′s that I realized my atheism came from my loathing of people like you who feel they don’t have to respect my right to believe or not believe as i choose. After that realization I became an Agnostic. You and the street preachers have nothing at all to offer me. I have heard it all before growing up and it hasn’t changed at all. Show ME some respect and I will return that respect in kind. Those preachers on the subway didn’t give a crap that many of those on the train didn’t want to be preached to. I don’t really expect you to get this based on your comment. I give money to those in need when I can. And ONLY to those I believe really are in need and not running a con on me. It must be nice to think you KNOW things when in reality you really don’t know a

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:11am

    TEXAN832: FOr those who would reallt like to research this I suggest a Reaing of Romans Chapter 1 verses 21 and following.
    Where people get off with “Judge not least you be judged” is that they are really saying dont confront me in my sin . Yeah well that doesnt hold water.”

    @TEXAN;
    I do so love it when people quote me this verse from Romans, “Judge not lest you be judged” and then don’t read on past vs. 21 which says, “do you who DO THESE THINGS judge others?” So, what Paul is saying to the Church at Rome is not to judge homosexuality but that you have no RIGHT to judge homosexuality IF you practice it also! Now, that is a good Bible Study for people because they NEVER get the particular nuance of that passage that Paul is saying to people practicing homosexuality to stop judging OTHER people who practice it. Look it up!

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    • searcher619
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:13am

      the bible also teaches that it isn’t your place to judge others. that is for God to do. Your job is to love each other regardless of the sins real or imagined we all commit.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:03am

    @Shorelinez
    “I was never taught that Jesus is love. I was taught that Jesus is LORD.”
    I’m sorry for your religious education then, as I was taught both just by reading the Bible. Jesus is Lord and deserves our love; but He is also God, the source of all love in the first place.”

    @LOCKED:
    No need to feel sorry for my education. It was all fine and good. To bow to the Lordship of Christ is to show your love. To obey the Lord. To obey his commands is to PROVE love. I can’t stand CHEAP GRACE and so I got out of Evangelical Christianity as a pastor years ago. I am retired. If you love the Lord Obey his commands. It is not that hard to do.

    The Lord Jesus has been “romanticized” and “secularized” to death until he is some “feel good God” in which anything goes. Jesus is now like the new Santa Claus. Always positive. Always happy. Always gives every child exactly what they want. There is no more coal. Coal has been outlawed. That is ‘mean.”

    And, so, Evangelical Christianity trudges on in this shallow philosophy about Jesus. That all is GRACE. There are no consequences to sin. If I have an affair and divorce my children won’t be affected. If I have an abortion as a teenage Christian girl I won’t be affected for life. If I have homosexual sin but go to church I won’t be affected. It is all “good” and “jesus loves me.” Well just keep repeating these lies. They aren’t true. They aren’t the Gospel.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 1:04pm

      Explaing why you are such a cruel and general poor person to be around(I can tell)…you believe in a god that is cruel and general a pain to be around. Thank god there is no evidence of the creature existing…phew

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  • demsrtraitors
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:59am

    liberals, gays , pedophiles etc hate religion and God because it limits their perversion. They don’t want to be reminded on what they can’t do or not suppose to do.. So its better for them to just ignore God and say he doesn’t exist. Kind of the same way obama and democrats feel about the Constitution. It annoys them.

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  • Vision Harry
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:55am

    Let’s look at this issue in a strictly logical sense. Tab A is designed to fit into Slot B in order to physiologically reproduce either Tab A or Slot B. The pairing of two Tab A’s or Two Slot B’s, will never produce another Tab A or Slot B, thus ending the existence of both,
    God’s plan is to “Bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man”. Therefore, any “deviation” from that plan is anathema to God’s purpose.
    I propose that the first naturally occurring offspring from a same sex couple may be allowed to vote on gay marriage. Seems Logical

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  • DeavonReye
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:52am

    Also remember to not:

    Eat meat with blood in it.
    Do not cut the **** at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
    Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 1:07pm

      Don’t forget to stay far away from women when they are menstruating

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 2:38pm

      Yes. And a few others. It is an interesting study, actually.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 3:16pm

      You’re trying to sound witty but you’re just demonstrating your ignorance.

      And immaturity.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 3:31pm

      Then please explain things, Berean. You can’t do a “drive by” and not explain yourself.

      What I stated is true, and biblical. It is in the next chapter from those against sexual immorality. How was my post at all “ignorant” or [somehow] “immature”?

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 3:43pm

      BTW, is that how you believe you “win arguments”, . . . by posting that your opponent is “immature”, “whiny”, or whatever? Are you just mad because I don’t blindly accept your special friend? Make VALID points or make none at all.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:12pm

      DEVON, that’s OT stuff. You know it doesn’t apply now, and it’s shallow and immature to pretend that you don’t know that. Stop making an ass of yourself, you sound like an idiot. Grow up.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 8:31am

      So the OT is irrelevant? We can throw out the Ten Commandments? The creation story? Or only the parts that make your faith uncomfortable?

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 8:36am

      Doors. . . . exactly! Why is it that people will bring up Deuteronomy when it is a topic that THEY think is “evil”, . . . but when it doesn’t match with their world view, . . . then it’s, “well, that was in the Old Testament, and no longer valid under the new covenant”. It really has become quite comical!

      LOL

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:05pm

      DOORS of DEVON, you guys are just demonstrating your ignorance of the Bible.

      Not to mention, gross immaturity.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:16pm

      Amazing! If you want to explain how, please do so. If not, . . . save your ad hominems for others.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:34pm

      I don’t have to explain how because anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of Christian doctrine can see how pitifully ignorant you are. You guys think you’re embarrassing us but we can see that you’re just ignorant jerks and the foolish and ridiculously stupid things you say are pitifully wrong and woefully immature. They are meant to antagonize us but who do you suppose wins that volley? LoL

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:01pm

      Uh, . . . yes you DO have to explain, Berean. What if your explaination was the catalyst to an non-religious person understanding better? Isn’t that the way a person learns? Explain how the next chapter laws are no longer followed, but the chapter before still are. . . . as well as the ’10 commandments’.

      I would like to hear what you have to say. BUT, if you continue to reply with ad hominem attacks, then I will take that to mean you are unable to give any reasonable explaination, . . . then I will no longer consider anything you have to say with any seriousness.

      Ball is in your court.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:38pm

      DEVON, you arrogant twerp. You’re not interested in discussion, you want to embarrass Christians. But you just embarrass yourself with your ignorance.

      Look, I know you have been told the following many times because I have observed it. But I’ll tell you this once more and if you ever bring it up again you will suffer the wrath of my verbal abuse. So read very slowly and let it sink in…

      The old covenant is no longer valid because Jesus fulfilled the Law.

      Jesus then said of the 10 Commandments “you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. The second is like this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:30,31

      No go read your Bible rather than wasting your time badgering the adults here.

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    • The_Doors_Of_Perception
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:55pm

      Considering that you think that is a thorough explanation for what we have raised gives me a lot of doubt that you could achieve anything close to “verbal abuse” towards us in your posts. Delusion is a powerful thing…you should learn about the human brain…it tricks the hell out of you. No pun intended

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:58pm

      Yeah, doors, I caught that, too. Oh well.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:12pm

      That’s a valid explanation for the two things the ignorant twerp brought up. (that’s his new name, by the way)

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:52am

    You are welcomed into the fold when you “repent” of your sins. “there is no salvation outside of repentance.” you have to stop practicing sexual sin. Leave that lifestyle. Leave that behavior to be saved. There is NO SALVATION without REPENTANCE of SINS. True and faithful repentance. Leave sexual sin. For good. Embrace the Lordship of Jesus Christ and be Embraced by it. Jesus is Lord to the Glory of God! You are not Lord. I am not Lord. He is Lord. If this man TRULY understood God’s love for him he would leave that sexual sin of his in a heartbeat BUT….he lies. He does not Love Jesus or his Lordship. HE loves his FLESH. He loves his sexual sin. Therefore. Jesus is NOT Lord in his life. He is in disobedience. He is in an unrepentant state. Therefore, he is not saved. He is not actively being saved by the Lordship of Christ which is where the POWER comes from. His sexual sin is sinking him lower and lower every day while he claims Jesus loves him. What good is it to claim that Jesus Loves you while you deny his Lordship? they go hand in hand. You have to SUBMIT yourself to the Lordship of Jesus in order to be made whole. This man is in a state of disintegration because of his sexual sin. He is ripping and tearing himself apart. How is that love? He doesn’t love the Lord. He loves his sin.

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    • searcher619
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:16am

      So tell me this. Tribes living in the amazon who have no knowledge of your ‘God” or your religion. What happens to them for breaking your religious laws which they don’t even know exist?

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:31pm

      SEARCHER619….When a person dies, his consciousness (soul) is instantly standing before the Lord our God. Good bad or indifferent, everyone goes to paradise. His status there is dependent on his closeness to Christ. But judgement is not yet. There will be one day, Lord’s time, for the goats to be exposed and segregated from the sheep. You can probably figure the rest out…..or maybe not… .

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