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Texas Gun Shop Owner Easily Refutes Biden’s Claim That an AR-15 Is Harder to Aim, Use Than a ’12-Gauge Shotgun’

Feb. 19, 2013 5:45pm
Texas Gun Shop Owner Easily Refutes Bidens Claim That an AR 15 Is Harder to Use Than 12 Gauge Shotgun

PHILADELPHIA, PA – FEBRUARY 11: U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden delivers remarks following a roundtable discussion with law enforcement officials to discuss gun safety on February 11, 2013 at Girard College in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. President Barack Obama’s administration is pushing for new gun control measures in the wake of the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Credit: Getty Images

Vice President Joe Biden dismissed the concerns of a pro-gun woman during an online Town Hall event and told her she doesn’t “need an AR-15.”

After writing that she was worried about her family’s security and gun control legislation, Biden encouraged the woman to buy a 12-gauge shotgun because she doesn’t need a semi-automatic rifle to protect herself.

Biden also told the woman that she could scare off an intruder by firing two shots from a 12-gauge double-barrel shotgun. He said the AR-15 is harder to “aim” and use.

Jesse Bonner, owner of Jesse’s Gun Shop in Corsicana, Texas, smacked down Biden’s claim. He told TheBlaze that “our vice president is inaccurate.”

“That would not be true,” he said. “I’ve taught enough ladies to shoot all different types of firearms and I can tell you that the AR-15 is going to be better suited for a lady. It would be better for all-around home defense and it’s one of the most accurate guns out there.”

“The AR-15 is now a mainstream weapon because of its quality design and accuracy,” he added, saying that a shotgun, especially a 12-gauge, can be difficult to use for many people. Smaller women could have even more trouble firing a 12-gauge shotgun due to the recoil.

Bonner explained that even younger kids are able to use an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with ease.

Being in the firearms business for 21 years, Bonner told TheBlaze that there has been a coordinated effort to blur the line between semi-automatic rifles, like the AR-15, and fully automatic weapons.

“It’s been happening through the purposeful blurring and slandering, whether to help legislation pass or to help a new company make money by selling advertising by sensationalizing,” he said.

Visit the website for Jesse’s Gun Shop, here.

 

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  • Eastinfection
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:48pm

    “our vice president is inaccurate.”

    lol…

    inaccurate
    inarticulate
    inebriated
    incoherent
    in-kahootz-with-commies

    You are “in”, Joe! “in”-joy it!

    Eastinfection  
    • Miami
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 7:37pm

      I’m all about shotguns, a pump or semi auto but a double barrel? What do you do when you shoot your load..? 2 rounds? And shot them off as a warning? I’d hate to be their neighbors, fixing a hole in the wall every time his wife gets gets spooked.

      I swear by the.308 AR, which has twice the stopping power of the .223.

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      Miami  
    • bobfrommosinee
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 7:56pm

      You forgot inbred.

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    • Silvertruth
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 8:18pm

      With the right load, the shotgun is safer than a .223 round but will be harder to fire in tight quarters unless it’s short barrelled.

      I love my 870 Express, but the women I’ve let fire 00 buck out of it almost always end up dropping it or on their tush, even with proper brace training. It’s a lot of kick to handle. Trap with target loads work nicely with them (and me) though.

      I’d never use a double barrelled shotgun for home defense unless it’s all I had. You have two rounds and in stress under several intruders, you would likely never get in two more.

      What Biden should’ve said is that there’s nothing that will clear out the riff-raff faster than the SOUND of a Shotgun being racked…

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      Silvertruth  
    • TikeSissy
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 8:59pm

      Mr. VP, maybe you should watch women shooting 12 gauges on YouTube, I”m sure your opinion will change.

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      TikeSissy  
    • cemerius
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:09pm

      @Miami

      I too prefer my AR-10 :)

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    • Right wing nut job
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:33pm

      Silver, I’m with you on being all about shotguns. There is no greater close quarters self defense weapon. Problem is most sporting shotguns are too long and 12 gauge 00 buck knocks small women on their butts. The 20 gauge Remington 870 youth model is an excellent home defense tool. The barrel and stock are both shortened which makes them very suitable for maneuvering in close quarters and the 20 gauge is easier on the shoulder. Furthermore firing 20 ga buckshot across a 15′ room or down a 20′ hallway will knock the dog poop out of anyone stupid enough to be in the way.

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    • SendTheMeteors
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:36pm

      Seriously gun people, is an AR-15 the best weapon for protection, assuming someone has already broken into your house? Better protection than a pistol or shotgun?

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      SendTheMeteors  
    • 912828Buckeye
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:59pm

      STM…. May I recommend a flint lock with damp powder.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:00pm

      Our vice president, Joe Biden, is an idiot and clueless. How this guy, like the president, ever got to the position where he’s at just boggles the mind. I know 6 year olds with more sense than this cretin. He belongs in the same sanitarium as Pelosi and Reid.

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    • Right wing nut job
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:01pm

      Sendthemeteors, you obviously know little about firearms so allow me to enlighten you. The best defense weapon depends on your particular situation, there is no single correct answer! For lower middle class suburbia in a 1300 square foot home I would say the shotgun is a pretty good choice considering no room or hallway in the house will be over 25′. Now if a person happens to be fortunate enough to own a large house with wide areas and long corridors, or lives on acreage, or has multiple structures to defend then a rifle is more suitable. Now don get all hung up an the “assault rifle” thing, its just noise to distract. All firearms do exactly the same thing; use expanding gas to push a projectile down a pipe. Sorry if you don’t like the way it looks or is labeled.

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    • hypnos
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:08pm

      In close quarters in order of ease of use would be semi automatic hand gun, then an AR-15 then a shotgun.also meteror most shot guns have semi automatic action. So what’s your point in trying to distinguish between every other semi automatic and an AR-15. Meteror you are an idiot.

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    • JohnofOregon
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:20pm

      @meteors
      There you staffers go again talkin bout stuff you don.t know.

      A hand gun cannot be an effective weapon. A shotgun tends to hit a lot of stuff and people you don’t want.

      As a person who actually has used a weapon in self defense I can tell you neither are effective. A Winchester is invaluable and 20 rounds in a mini thirty is superior. Even the two federal agents assigned for protection didn’t see that coming. Oh thats right, they were sleeping. Echo terrorist are not nice folks.

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    • 226crimsontrace
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:45pm

      Words of wisdom from the stupidest person in America, dumbest politician in the world. Whoops, i guess the people who voted for him many times are the stupidest
      AR- 10 rules unless you are shooting kittys

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      226crimsontrace  
    • darkknight91
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:54pm

      Biden has got to be the stupidest fool in DC. Seriously. He recommends taking a double barrel shotgun out on the porch and fire both shots in the air. Does he even realize that the gun is now unloaded? Moron.

      For close quarters I’d rather use my handgun with 17 rounds. As far as Sendinthemeatheads anti-AR sentiments, if an AR is such a bad idea for close quarters, why allow our troops to use them when they go door to door and inside homes? Wasn’t bin laden cut down with one? From now on, keep out of the gun discussions. You make a big enough fool of yourself already on other topics.

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    • KyleD
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:00am

      Why is the blaze making an article about a comment from some random guy? Might as well start taking people posting in the comments here and turning them into articles. Plus, this guy isn’t even right. It is easier to hit someone with a shotgun…it’s a shotgun you can not even be pointed someone and still hit them. Sure, it’s not as pinpoint…but that’s not the same thing. That’s not to say I agree with Biden though. A shotgun only works if you’re protecting yourself against one or two people…maybe even a small group…but what if there are riots in the street? Mobs searching homes? Armed militants blowing up neighborhoods? A shotgun won’t do you much good if a group is really after you. Sure that doesn’t happen often but neither does burglary…we have a right to protect ourselves no matter how limited the chance of an incident.

      And my goodness…Biden just told people to shoot out into the night…that’s the most reckless thing someone can do. What if it’s just a couple of cats going at it? A kid coming home late? A drunk neighbor going to the wrong door? Or you just happen to be pointed towards the neighbors house. Biden is such an idiot.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:24am

      “Our Vice President is inaccurate” Well, maybe but I think “an idiot” or “an imbecile” or “a lying liar and crap weasel” are all more accurate descriptions.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:35am

      Burning out meteorite, have you ever actually fired a weapon? Tutorial; 5 yards or less empty the magazine of your favorite handgun into the intruder, then call 911 for a “wet cleanup in the doorway”. In the hallway, against a true home invasion of 3 or more intruders let fly with all 5 in your pump shotee. But short or long two well placed rounds from a semi-auto rifle, will definitely bring peace to the neighborhood. Me, I’m prepared for all scenarios. You will be relying on an incredibly quick response to your 911 call.

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    • DIR
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 4:01am

      @912828BUCKEYE

      The ultimate defense weapon for SENDIN… is an unsheathed (out of the wrapper) Johnsonville brat. In the hands of someone on the left, such a item could be very menacing to an assailant.

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      DIR  
    • Jive Mickey
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 7:48am

      You forgot “In Power”, that’s the rub. How do we fix that?

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 7:54am

      The POINT is Mr. vp, it’s my choice and I will make the important decisions regarding the responsible safe guarding of my family. Honestly, look at some video of yourself from the last 12 mos. and try not to laugh. The last thing I need is your advise on ANYTHING………

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    • battles
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 8:13am

      You also forgot demon possessed.

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      battles  
    • poorrichard09
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 8:31am

      Yep, ol’ Joe really went off half-cocked and shot off his mouth again!
      I think he’s crazy-lock, stock and barrel. :-D

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    • Trigus
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 8:49am

      The democrats claimed the republicans had a war on women.

      Now, the truth actually comes out: The Democrats do not feel women should arm themselves. Women should stick to gun-free zones, places with call boxes, rely on whistles, and a handy pair of scissors, according to Democrats.

      Again, this Administration, and Democrats are no longer in touch with the will of the people. Every thing they spew out of their mouths are fact less, idiotic, and covered by State Run Media. There is no honest news reporting Agency in the US. Heck, even Glenn drank the kool-ade.

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    • CALLMEMSGT
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:03am

      Biden is an idiot. The fact that Obama put in in charge of gun control legislation says a lot about Obama judgement.

      I was always trained to never pull the trigger unless you know exactly where the rounds are going to go. Biden is not only stupid-he is dangerous. Fire up in the air? What about mean old Mr. Gravity?

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:47am

      Miami
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 7:37pm

      I’m all about shotguns, a pump or semi auto but a double barrel? What do you do when you shoot your load..? 2 rounds? And shot them off as a warning? I’d hate to be their neighbors, fixing a hole in the wall every time his wife gets gets spooked.

      I swear by the.308 AR, which has twice the stopping power of the .223.
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      Urrmm My saiga 12 hold 20 rounds…and it is awesome at 50 yards with full choke on.

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    • Silvertruth
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:51am

      Meteors-

      Let me answer your question clearly:

      Yes, a semi-automatic carbine is an excellent defense weapon.

      Now, let me answer your spoken/unspoken criticism of the choice:

      If you need 1 all around weapon that can handle any range engagement, any normal target from person to vehicle, and any situation, your best choice is a semi-automatic carbine with a medium load. Those weapons family’s are AR-15′s, SKS & AK-47′s, Mini-14′s, etc. There is a reason why the military uses fully automatic versions of these weapons, that reason is versatility.

      There should be no reason responsible civilian’s cannot have access to them other than fear of firearms by others. That’s all gun control is, a public statement of fear by those proposing it. There is no logic that permits it to exist without fear driving it.

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      Silvertruth  
    • Yeah_Buddy
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:07am

      When I saw this clip on TV, I had to LOL. This guy is so inept about firearms, he should stick to topics he knows about….um…not sure what topics they are, but def not guns.

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      Yeah_Buddy  
    • MoseyAlong
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:52am

      @Meteors

      You are correct in your assumption. If someone has already broken into the house then an AR-15 variant is not better than a shotgun or pistol. But you already knew that. The same way you already know that the 2A isn’t about defending against intruders or hunting. You typically seam reasonable to opposing views, why do you refuse to see the logic?

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    • Independent4233
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:57pm

      I notice that nobody has picked up on one very salient fact, which is that by advoacating shotguns Biden is inadvertently telling us that the left doesn’t really want to ban rifles to save lives, but to prevent having a properly-armed populace that can adequately defend themselves against the domineering Gestapo agenda.

      Why? Because if mass shooters in any incident to date had used doube-barrel shotguns instead of other weapons the results would be total devastation, since a shot gun would be like firing an M16 on fully automatic. At close range……just two shells…… would be like firing about forty bullets at the intended targets. The kill ratio would be phenomenol.

      His advocating shotguns but banning AR-15′s tells us explicitly that it is NOT the lethality of a weapon he opposes, but having armed citizens with weapons that can shoot much farther than shotguns, because it poses a threat to government controlled Gestapos.

      These liars and crooks want our guns, and the community organizer has an additional reason to ban rifles: The vast majority of them are in the hands of conservative Americans.

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    • LightOfReason
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:08pm

      @Miami, you got that right brother, the AR 10 (.308) is much better than an AR15

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    • chrisad
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:49pm

      OK Biden. We’ll replace all the weapons that your Secret Service detail has, and give them all double barreled shotguns. You won’t need that armored car either, since you’ll be surrounded by a whole bunch of fantastic shotguns. How does your brilliant suggestion sound now, genius?

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    • Sua-Sponte
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:35pm

      “Vice President Joe Biden dismissed the concerns of a pro-gun woman during an online Town Hall event and told her she doesn’t “need an AR-15.””

      Who the he!! is Biden to decide what citizens need or don’t need? Just another example of the mentality of the left – the government knows what is best for you.

      Personally, I don’t think Obama “needs” another vacation . . . but off he goes anyway.

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      Sua-Sponte  
    • alinmatt
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 5:31pm

      I think this may be one of Ol’ Uncle Joe’s smarter remarks. Don’t get me wrong, use whatever you want for self defense, but shotguns are the best for home invasion defense. 1. With the right shot, it won’t kill your children on the other side of the wall if you miss. 2. A larger spread means you are less likely to miss, especially with a shorter barrel.
      I suggest shooting to kill when there’s a home invasion. Don’t waste your ammo firing warning shots (Joe). Also, don’t use a double barrel, use something with at least 6 shots.

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    • bigalpal
      Posted on February 21, 2013 at 2:07am

      The problem with AR’s or any semi-automatic is that Hollywood with their idiotic movies and the violent game makers have convinced the gulible public (that includes our idiot president and vice president as well as most other democrats) that the semi’s are full automatic. Watch any of the violent movies or games you will see this false presentation. LIARS ONE AND ALL.

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    • Colorado7972
      Posted on February 22, 2013 at 10:20pm

      SO Meteor where is your “snide” comment on this article on Blaze about New Yorkers either pay 1 million for insurance or get guns confiscated. Well you and your Liberal :”turd-brains” have always said “we aren’t coming to take your guns!”. I saved all the post where you and your fellow Liberals been saying for months. Well Liberal, why haven’t you or your fellow Liberal lemmings that on here daily commented to that article yet. We all no why, because you CAN’T!, it would show your truly ugly hypocrisy then moron!

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/19/proposed-bill-would-require-gun-owners-in-ny-to-buy-at-least-1-million-in-liability-insurance-or-forfeit-privilege-to-own-a-firearm/#comment-4947218

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    • animaliberty
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:32pm

      Incompetent, incredible, insincere, inane, inadmissable, insipid, incongruous, inbred-(speculative), in-cursive, indisposed. Ha ha, they just keep coming, but here’s the worst one: in office

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on March 2, 2013 at 12:31am

      Dumb as they come. Check this little ditty I tossed together (comedy). It star’s Feinstein, Biden, Duke Nukem and Beavis. It’s been therapeutic and kind of fun so far. One way to vent without causing much trouble… hehe.

      https://soundcloud.com/#meyvn/ban-youtalkingtome

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  • chips1
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:39pm

    Biden has an assault mouth. He shoots it off all the time.

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    • TEOTWASWKI
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 7:09pm

      Biden also told the woman that she could scare off an intruder by firing two shots from a 12-gauge double-barrel shotgun.
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
      What an idiot, lets see, you fire two shots from a weapon that any fool can see only holds two shots….. and then they run off………yeah right

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    • Pedro
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 8:07pm

      I’m sure that VP Biteme would have recommended that she should get a Hello Kitty Assault Bubble Gun. But 12 gauge shotguns are easier to find.

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    • Capt_Gregg
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:20pm

      @TEOTWASWKI
      I keep a double-barrel 10 ga. by my bed, but even though I have a .44 as a back-up, you can bet I’m not going to waste ammo and leave myself open by firing even one warning shot..

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:48am

      You know as soon as they say crap like this they end up banning what they think is great.

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    • happ77
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 3:21pm

      Capt… Love the 10 gauge, closest thing to a canon
      you can buy legally.

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  • SON_OF_RJJINGADSDEN
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:32pm

    …My girlfriend’s a lot less scared of shooting an AR than my 12 guage…whole lot less kick with the AR…actually it doesn’t kick it just goes boom and rattles in your hands.

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    • Eastinfection
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:44pm

      Sup Jr.?

      Obviously your girlfriend is in serious need of government intervention. Doesn’t she know, that in the event of assault, we have whistles and callboxes at her disposal?

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      Eastinfection  
    • Fubared
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:52pm

      Shears, don’t forget assault shears.

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      Fubared  
    • marine249
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:33pm

      or she can pee on him

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    • darkknight91
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:45am

      Just tell her to stay in those safe zones. She’ll be fine.

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  • skyguy51
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:32pm

    Somebody in the White House Press Office is in big trouble for letting Uncle Joe out again, and unsupervised too!

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:26am

      Why wasn’t that fool laughed out of office when he disrespected Paul Ryan AND America in the V.P. debate? Anyone who acted like he did then should be locked up in a sanitarium, for God’s sake!!

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  • Fred762
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:30pm

    Joegaff is not so much ignorant as he is simply folloqwing the ‘propaganda line’ his masters set out for pols this year. The plan seems to be to demonize any firearm which is useful for real self-defense. IMHO IF JB or BHO or Bloomy or Fineswine or Sucky Chewmore et al really thought GUNS were so bad, they would disarm their multitude of ARMED guards of their full-auto machineguns and make them carry batons, or Mace only. Remember: not ONE of these dangerous clowns has a “gun-free zone” sign on his/her house or car. Remember: guns hve only 2 real enemies: RUST and POLITICIANS.

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  • American_Made
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:27pm

    No surprises here. The vice president is a lying POS.

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    • Al Gator
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 7:26pm

      American,

      I have to disagree with you. I’ve spent time with the Senator when I was commuting between Phllly and DC. Joey really did take Amtrak every day in those days, and he was available and friendly to anyone who sat and talked to him.

      So, I know what I’m talking about here; the man is too stupid to lie.

      He lives in a la la land that only he can interpret. Bottom line, he really believes the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. And he has gotten a lot worse since the ’90s. There was a reason that the DuPont family made friends with him and made him their senator for all those years. Just pull him aside, fill his noggin with the BS of the day, and off he goes! A walking, talking twilight zone, unembarrassed and unabashed.

      We should have a couple of him running loose.

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    • GO-FOR-LIBERTY
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 7:55am

      Interesting, but how many times did Antrac have to wait at the station for “old Joe” to remember where he works/suppose to be that day/just felt like screwing everyone?

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  • wilbstal
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:26pm

    the dumb and disabled are protected in USA so Joe Biden will be automaticaly protected anyway

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  • JTX
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:22pm

    Biden is a twit.

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:17pm

    Politicians who do not know what they are talking about:
    A) should not talk about it, and
    B) CERTAINLY should not be proposing or passing legislation about what they do not understand.

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  • BHOHG2G
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:17pm

    Uncle Joe doesn’t need secret service protection either. Just let him tote around a double barrel shotgun. Heehaww!
    What disgraceful, stupid commie buffoon he is.
    What everyone ” NEEDS” is for him and BO to skip hand in hand into the sea until their hats float.

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 8:02pm

      Yes .. until they give up their security … I say LEAVE US THE H ALONE!

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  • MDECKER
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:15pm

    Is “Kiddo” playing the part of Carl Malden in an upcomming movie?

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  • MrKnowItAll
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:15pm

    That Interviewer is Definitely a Woman with that Voice.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:13pm

    Biden is clueless and incompetent, what else is expected of the human gaff machine.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:10pm

    The ignorance of this Biden fellow shames the office of the V.P. Four more years of this plug-headed creep? Really? Ugg!

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    • Fubared
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:11pm

      Bizzaro world is hoping and praying nothing happens to 0, to keep Biden at #2 only-

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  • KevINtampa
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:08pm

    How can he even suggest that? Firing an AR-15 is like handling a beefed up pellet gun, especially when compared to a 12 gauge 3″ slug or .00 buck!

    Biden is full of crap. Also, most shotguns are pump action, a lot of ladies would have problems just cycling the shells, let alone avoiding not falling over or having the gun smack themselves in the face due to the recoil because they are off balance at 4 AM when 3 men riding in van break in to rape and rob them…

    An AR-15 is one of the best systems for home defense for several reasons. The way the rounds splinter upon hitting non-soft material like plywood or even drywall is another good reason. The shorter length of an AR-15 compared to a shotgun makes it more manageable in hallways and while hiding in a closet as well.

    F you Biden. Go back to being a politician, your self defense advice is going to get people killed, you stupid moron.

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  • 1911CK
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:07pm

    Hey moron, uh, er, Mr. VP-you can’t just go around firing off “warning” shots. That will land you in jail in most places in the country faster than you can say double-00 buckshot.

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    • KevINtampa
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:17pm

      Yep, in Florida a warning shot is a crime. You brandish your weapon you better have good cause to kill someone. Either way you probably get Zimmerman’d though.

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    • PhantomsPhorever
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:44am

      Unlawful discharge of a firearm for just firing off shots. You are going to jail 100%. You will never legally own a gun again. Never pull that trigger unless you absolutely mean to kill someone that is trying to kill you or your family. The retainer for an atty here in Fla. is $20,000 and if you are smart you will fake a heart attack go to the hospital and call your atty. NEVER talk to the cops. Be damn sure you need to pull that trigger. A warning shot is 100% prosecutable.

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  • grumpy_old_soldier
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:06pm

    To take Mr. Bonner’s observations a step further, when I was a First Sergeant in an infantry rifle company, we trained Primary Marksmanship Instruction on the M16 rifle / M4 carbine (select-fire AR-15 military variants) with our soldiers constantly.

    One of the main tenets of accurate shooting is the “grouping” of the rounds, that is, where the rounds are hitting the target. To ensure that they are hitting in the same place all the time, the firer MUST hold the weapon the SAME way all the time. This allows the firer to draw the same sight picture all the time. We taught our soldiers to pull the weapon tight into the pocket of their shoulder, rest their cheek on the buttstock, and touch the tip of their nose to the charging handle of the rifle.

    The M16 / M4 could be fired this way WITHOUT any fear of breaking your nose, because the construction of the weapon made for very little recoil. This little fact would indicate that this weapon would be an excellent choice for a female.

    In comparison, I own a side-by-side, double barreled shotgun in 12 gauge, and even with a recoil pad on the buttstock, it WILL thump you. Using #4 buckshot so the pellets don’t go through a wall, it’s advantage is that it will clear a room with two rounds.

    The Vice President should spend more time acquainting himself with the handling and firing characteristics of these weapons, and less time showing how clueless he really is.

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    • Fubared
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:54pm

      Top he is too busy billing the SS for staying at his estate to get into weedy facts.

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:05pm

    I’m going to take advice on guns from Joe Biden.

    Also going to let Bernie Madolf manage my IRA.

    (Sarcasm Font)

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  • AvengerK
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:04pm

    Well if the Obama administration remains true to form, we’ll see a photo of Plugs surface of him firing a 12 gauge (to show he’s really truly honest about this) but aiming it all wrong..much like Obama’s “skeet shooting” buffoonery.

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  • ff-up
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:02pm

    Ah Joe.. We can always expect you to sound like an A**. Is there no occasion that you won’t put your foot in your mouth. A small woman…a 12ga. can be intimidating, however, a .223 is comfortable and effective. Just think…a 12ga. 00 buck has nine pellets… almost as much as one of the magazines that you’re wanting to ban. A Remington 870 can hold 5 shells, that’s 45 pellets. Holy cow.. how can you recommend this to anyone? You’re a hypocrite! But you are and always will be someone we can make fun of..

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    • hjablo
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:14pm

      I think that they removed part of Joe’s brain, after his stroke. This guy is thinking about running for President – I guess that he would fit right in with all the other brain dead Presidents that we have endured.

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    • Todd Hoke
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 11:55pm

      At least it’s honest with itself.

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  • Your_Senile
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:58pm

    What you need to know

    Mr. Bonner is full of Malarkey

    it is so

    Your Senile

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    • Vilgax
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:05pm

      He’s absolutely correct. The AR-15 is easy to aim and easy to fire, unlike many shotguns that have a heavy recoil, younger people and yes, women can easily utilize an AR. That is why it is the most popular rifle in America.

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    • Triple7
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:40pm

      What is known.

      With every comment your idiocy is shown.

      Daily your ignorance has grown

      Hence you are full of bull.

      It.
      Is.
      So.

      (*-*)

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    • Zipit
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:57pm

      What exactly is your point, WANG!

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 8:25pm

      Oh Jeez not another Wango, Your_Sensei, do you ever give up? Seriously you need help.

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    • earache-my-eye
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 10:34pm

      Really Wang? Another stupid name?

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    • DIR
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 4:19am

      @DLV

      I don’t know if Your_Senile is Wango, but I saw an add featuring him the other day. As I recall it went: “Wango, Wango, Wango humping nugget, nugget, nugget ….’ It was an adult themed commercial having to do with some toy horse name nugget. It had a picture of Wango with that stumped look on his face as if caught in the act up against the back side of a toy talking horse. Apparently in order to get the horse to talk the horse had to be wango’d. The add had to do with turning kids toys into fun things for leftwing adults.

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  • JeffersonsPen
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:55pm

    Uncle Joe is loose again…………………hahahaha

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  • FrankieBaby
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:55pm

    Ill buy whatever the hell I want BIDEN! ITS A FREE COUNTRY! And I have a constitutional right to buy whatever I want!

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    • gyro
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 6:00pm

      three cheers

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    • Lt_Scrounge
      Posted on February 19, 2013 at 9:25pm

      At least for the moment. That will cease to be the case if the Dems get their way.

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    • Rattlerjake
      Posted on February 20, 2013 at 3:20pm

      You know, if shotguns were truly the weapon of choice for home defense, then why do the majority of law enforcement and military choose AR15′s or a similar rifle, or some type of semi-auto pistol? The Ar15 has less recoil and is often lighter and shorter for easier handling than most shotguns. Biden knows about as much about weapons as he knows about being VP, nada/zero/zip/nothing!

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  • texasbornandraised
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:53pm

    I know where to buys guns now. I don’t live to far from that shop.

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  • Fubared
    Posted on February 19, 2013 at 5:49pm

    Well, if you have enough single malt, it can be harder-er than maintaining a laser like focus on jobs and crap.

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    • firereader
      Posted on February 21, 2013 at 1:53am

      biden just advised people to get double barrel shotgun and just bang off a couple of rounds, what a loon, 9 to 41 pellets in buckshot and he just indiscriminately shoots a gun at who knows what. what is he thinking, oh that answers it all, he’s biden and a politician he does not think. Way to go Jesse’s Gunshop in Corsicanna, Texas for your post and the great job of supporting our rights.

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