
U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta testifies on the attack on the US facilities in Benghazi, Libya, before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, Feb. 7, 2013. (Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images)
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Congress on Wednesday that if the sequester (i.e. automatic government spending cuts) kicks in on March 1, he may have to shorten the workweek for the “vast majority” of the Defense Department’s 800,000 civilian workers.
They would lose one day of work per week, or 20 percent of their pay, for up to 22 weeks, probably starting in late April.
Again, that’s 800,000 civilian workers.
To dispel the notion that this is mainly a problem for the nation’s capital, the Pentagon’s budget chief, Robert Hale, told reporters that the economic impact would be felt nationwide. The biggest potential losses, in term of total civilian payroll dollars, would be in Virginia, California, Maryland, Texas, and Georgia, according to figures provided by the Pentagon.
Hale said the unpaid leaves for civilian workers would begin in late April and would save $4 billion to $5 billion if extended through the end of the budget year, Sept. 30. That is only a fraction of the $46 billion the Pentagon would have to cut this budget year unless a deficit-reduction deal is reached.
Panetta also said the across-the-board spending reductions would “put us on a path toward a hollow force,” meaning a military incapable of fulfilling all of its missions.
In a written message to employees, Panetta said that he notified members of Congress Wednesday that if the White House and Congress cannot strike a deficit reduction deal before March 1 to avoid the furloughs, all affected workers will get at least 30 days’ advance notice.
“In the event of sequestration we will do everything we can to be able to continue to perform our core mission of providing for the security of the United States, but there is no mistaking that the rigid nature of the cuts forced upon this department, and their scale, will result in a serious erosion of readiness across the force,” Panetta wrote.
House Speaker John Boehner put the blame on Obama and said he agrees with Panetta that automatic spending cuts would devastate the military.
Boehner released a copy of Panetta’s letter formally notifying Congress that the Pentagon will have to consider furloughing a large portion of its civilian workforce if sequestration kicks in.

President Barack Obama speaks with Speaker of the House John Boehner during a meeting at the White House in Wash., DC, in this July 23, 2011 file photo. (Jewel Samad/AFP/Getty Images)
“The furloughs contemplated by this notice will do real harm to our national security,” Panetta wrote in his congressional notification letter, adding that it would make troops less ready for combat and slow the acquisition of important weapons.
“Overall, sequestration will put us on a path toward a hollow force and inflict serious damage on our national security,” Panetta wrote.
The Pentagon has begun discussing details of the furloughs with defense worker union officials.
The only civilian Pentagon workers who would be exempt from furloughs would be Senate-confirmed political appointees such as the defense secretary and deputy defense secretary, as well as a relatively small number of workers deemed essential to protect the safety of defense property and personnel.
Final Thought: There’s really no sense in trying to blame any one person for all this drama. Indeed, consider the following:
Dumbest political argument in DC: who created the sequester. Bill written, passed by Congress, bipartisan vote, signed by Obama. The End.
— Jonathan Weisman (@jonathanweisman) February 17, 2013
Yes, the sequester is the result of a deal struck by Congress in 2011, the president signed off on it, and now no one wants to take responsibility for it.
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Comments (159)
bekhiet
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:10pmThis is already cuts that Obama agreed to in order to stop the “fiscal cliff” deal. Now, he is going back on that word too.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:14pmHe can’t help it he’s a pathological liar and a POS lifetime politician.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:17pmNo they arn’t, he agreed on cuts.. Not these specific cuts and not cuts across the board.. BIG difference!
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:21pmKEATON This government has NEVER cut anything in it’s entire history. Just because a skinny pathological liar tells you he’s going to cut something doesn’t mean it’s true. They slow the rate of growth and that’s the best we’ll ever get out of our one party system and the pigs that feast off of us.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:25pmSpending cuts at this time is a terrible idea anyway! It would hurt the economy MUCH more than it would help our deficit! extending the current spending for at least another two years is the best option!
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:27pmThese boneheads are complaining about some 8 billion in cuts or whatever the hell it is, and we are 16 TRILLION in debt. Good Golly Miss Molly, how are we ever going to cut out of government what’s REALLY necessary? If you think the BS bias is bad now, wait till David Axelrod gets going in his new position at NBC:
http://www.isthatbaloney.com/media-bias-alert-obama-campaign-strategist-david-axelrod-joins-white-house-nbc-wing/
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Walkabout
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:36pmKeatonC333
Obama came up with the sequester ideal. It is his plan. Therefore these are his cuts
Please try to keep up.
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Advection
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:46pmLiberals are always bleating about HOW MUCH we “waste” on defense spending, but now they’re bleating about how we can’t cut a penny of defense spending!
All of the people obama is USING in this latest propaganda push, those who will lose their jobs, can blame Obama for their problems. Obama could have asked to give the military the ability to spread the cuts out and not lose any jobs, but he didnt. Obama wanted to use those people as a weapon to hit Republicans over the head with.
Obama is going to harm 800,000+ people to make political points with the aim of winning the mid-term elections.
booger71
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:57pmAll they are doing is cutting automatic raises in spending. During the last 4 years Congress and this president has spent on average 1.2 Trillion more than we take in . They are proposing just cutting 85 billion from that 1.2 trillion, when we should go back to the 2007 level and cut from there. Then you would see some real panic in DC
fgbouman
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:13pmThe original sequestration bill had only cuts of programs that the Democrats liked. To ensure that the Republicans had skin in the game too, the White House insisted that the Department of Defense be given an equal opportunity to suffer.
Unfortunately, there is no one in charge of the Republicans in the House and there is a Kamikazi faction that likes the idea of us all becoming martyrs to their cause, so there seems no one in Congress trying to avoid this and no one for the White House to talk to or negotiate with. Feels a lot like a Third World country, doesn’t it?
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lovenfl3
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:35pmTell the President of the United States Mr. Panetta! But that’s not the way the game is played. Obama initiated the cuts, said he would veto any attempt to avoid the cuts, and now here we are. It’s Congress’ fault. Stuff it Leon, only the sheep are buying that song and dance. You have to check this out, it tells it like it is…..unlike Leon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RExLzaQ3NMU
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phil1765
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:56amVerceofreason
Obama could lead flies, he is the lord of the flies. Only problem is he couldn’t lead anything of any importance. He is however very adept at starting class warfare, racial tension, religious warfare and many other things. He is the biggest mistake America has ever made, thanks to the drooling masses like you. Guess you will wake up sometime after our economy collapses, only problem with that is that it will be wayyyyy to late.
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WSI2
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:07amOh my, we are going to fall off of the cliff…
“They would lose one day of work per week, or 20 percent of their pay, for up to 22 weeks, probably starting in late April.”
Oh, what a disaster this will be.
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naughtycal
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:14amIf the 58,000,000.000 is 20% of the defense budget that means the total defense budget is 224,000,000,000 billion where the hell is the 1,300,000,000,000 going defense is the reason we have D.C and only 17% of the revenue goes to defense,,,,WTF
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SquidVetOhio
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:48am“DEFENSE SECRETARY: THE SEQUESTER WILL LIKELY FORCE US TO FURLOUGH 800K CIVILIAN WORKERS”
- Leon Panetta
“Join the club. We’ve got jackets.”
- Private Sector
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muffythetuffy
Feb. 21, 2013 at 10:33amTHE PENTAGON WILL BECOME A SHOPPING MALL
Michelle wants to open a small shop at the Pentagon Mall. A disarmed nation does not need any Pentagon.
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SquidVetOhio
Feb. 21, 2013 at 1:08pmFor this to be true, each one of those 800,000 govt stiffs would have to make more than 27,5000 and that would account for the whole $22 Billion in cuts next year. Am I honestly expected to believe that cutting $22 Billion would lead to nearly a million of people losing their job?
How much do we give countries that hate us again? Give me a break…. Nobody is losing their job.
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FISH_BONE
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:06pmPrediction: Repubs will cave and Barry will come out smelling like a rose.
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Walkabout
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:14pmProbably.
Typical Democat ploy: Hold essential services hostage.
Cut Police & Foremen but keep all the other stuff.
Put of the way Christ Christie balanced the budget in New Jersey was by cutting bogus commission set up to employ the wives nephews, nieces and friends of supporters.
Obama could bring 3,000 troops from South Korea to the U.S. Of do the same from Germany.
The ~ 30 k troops in South Korea are not going to stop the North Koreans. The ROKs will. The troops are there as more of a pledge of reinforcements. What really matters for the South Koreans is who we have in Congress and the White House not the exact number of troops. It is a matter of will power.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:24pmI hope so! spending cuts at this time would be detrimental to our fragile economy
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FISH_BONE
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:34pmKEATON: Is that how you manage your own money? Spend yourself into prosperity?
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:47pmFishbone…. it’s pretty simple.. spending cuts equal loss of jobs, loss of jobs equal more welfare and unemployment and food stamps plus less revenue for stores because they wont be spending money.. less revenue means cutbacks for stores in which their employees will then have less money to spend and so on and so on.. Spending cuts will be bad for the economy right now.
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Fubared
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:57pmLil keatie, how do you like community agitator economics? How about the D owned senate budget? D equates to short bus.
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gothope
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:59pmkeaton obviously based on the price of gas the economy is’nt fragile its booming(according to bho). So government employees could easily get a job in the private sector. Also these aren’t all immediate cuts merely a reduction in the rate of growth. When would you say a good time to cut is?
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:08pmThe economy isn’t “booming” its improving, its getting stronger but it is still susceptible to sliding into another recession.. which these spending cuts could do.
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Walkabout
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:45pmKeatonC333 aka Kansas 20 something that supposedly works at UPS.
The economy is already in the tank thanks to Obasma
The Spending Crunch Is Official: “We Are Confident There Is An Issue With The Consumer”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-20/spending-crunch-official-we-are-confident-there-issue-consumer
Obama rescinded tax cuts and voila slowdown.
A college degree and you wonder why you are underemployed. Maybe it is your general lack of knowledge. Sue your alma mater.
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booger71
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:58pmspending cuts equal loss of jobs
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Only lost jobs will be government jobs.
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Verceofreason
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:35pmBoehner couldn’t lead a swarm of flies to an elephants latrine.
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katzkiner
Feb. 21, 2013 at 4:09amBarry plans on sending troops to 35 African countries this year. Oops!
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civilwarcometh
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:05pmWe will deserve everything we get for not all standing up as one….
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fgbouman
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:21pmAmen to that. If we are unwilling to compromise, then our goose is cooked.
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Diane TX
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:04pm~ Yawn ~
Well if 800,000 civilian, military, workers can be so easily cut, it just means to me, that they’re NON-ESSENTIAL. Right?
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bekhiet
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:09pmexactly
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Stelex
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:11pmI would submit that there are more “military workers” that are non essential. They are black mailing the civilian community. Pay up or go broke. With all these cuts I’d love to see the final #’s on Civilian cuts vs Gov Cuts. All the way across the board it will be civilian.
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aogiss
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:19pmRight, they may not be essential, but why do the “budget cuts” always start with workers, police, fire, teachers, whatever? Why don’t the cuts start with the real problems like the criminally abused welfare programs, putting inmates to work to pay for their walls and guards, etc.
The people of this country are so accustomed to hearing cuts = jobs that nobody even questions it.
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toiletclogga
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:35pmTime for VA and MD to feel what the rest of America has been feeling for the past 5 years!
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freeberty
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:42pmAogis,
It’s always someone else isn’t it, that needs to give up that government check.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:50pmTotally non-essential… thats probably why we are having a huge debate about spending cuts right now huh
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soybomb315_II
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:13pmi could do without 800,000 busybodies using the military as the world’s policeman.
Thanks pentagon, when we need you – we will let you know
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aogiss
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:18pmFreeberty, I am simply saying the rhetoric is the same every time conservatives want to balance the budget. I work in the private sector and earn my keep. Nearly everyone can do something.
If a quarter of those living on the tax dollars of others went to work 5 days a week, not only would there be no jobs for illegal immigrants (solving one problem), the budget would not be the issue it is today.
I wonder how many Obama phones are on the streets right now. I read 230k in Baltimore at a cost of around $24M, which comes out to over $100 a phone. I assume the figure does not include ongoing month to month costs, which I read to be something like 250 minutes/month, where such plans cost about $20-$30/month (so let’s say $25). So, about $5M a month for the plans is probably a fair guess.
The Obama phones are one small example of the gaping hole sinking our country.
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fgbouman
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:24pmIf this was being done methodically we could do far more reduction – what we are doing is utterly irrational. I’d much rather see us shoot for a DoD budget reduction of 10% per year for six years. We’d wind up with a very strong but much leaner military..
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AUsername
Feb. 20, 2013 at 10:41pmyeah get rid of Americas dumbest and let them learn to be productive and get a real job or contract.
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phil1765
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:04amfgbouman
So let me get this straight you propose that we cut the only thing that the constitution says the government should actually take money from us for by 60%, but you say absolutely nothing about cutting the things that are actually making us go broke as a nation. Good plan there dude thank God you aren’t in DC.
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coolshopp
Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:41pmWell it’s about time someone was educated a little because no one here has a clue who these 800K workers are. They are MOSTLY our Reservists working full time on Reserve bases and Reserve units on active bases. I am a reservist and WAS training to be able to deploy, but my training has been canceled. I am worthless to the Air Force because I am not a 5 level. These people repair and refurb airframes and support equipment for cargo/refueling missions that occur EVERY day. My base was responsible for airlifting about 100 service trucks from SoCal Edison to help restore power after Sandy. March Reserve weekends have been canceled. Everyone here is a reservist and able to be deployed (if they have finished training) So don’t shoot off your damn mouths when you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. These are the people that save your civilian asses from the draft,
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Mudd
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:01pmNo sympathy, even though it won’t happen.
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righthanddrive
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:00pmI am for the budget cuts. Its small- only about 2.5% of current spending and as Rand Paul says only cuts the growth in spending not the line item. So the furlough stuff is a big boohaahaa about nothing. None of these workers should lose a days wages if properly managed…just postponing their annual salary increases should do the trick (and cut legislators salaries to zero until a budget is passed). I thought these Harvard educated Dems were smarter than Yale educated GOP guys… and they could not think this through a year after proposing and passing the bill? As the great Aretha Franklin once said: Who is zooming who? Pres. Calvin Coolidge cut spending and the size of the government/budget and the country prospered. Why not again? It is time.
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coolshopp
Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:59pmThat’s funny cause all the ARTs (Active Reserve technicians) in my shop HAVE been furloughed in the past and have been briefed as such on the impending sequester. While they are Federal workers on paper they are ALL military members who serve everyday supporting our Active brothers across the globe. Not only is this hurting those Vets, it will also severely affect overall Readiness (yes panetta is actually right on that!)
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davetrav
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:59pmObama is hell bent on killing America, he loves this stuff. If you don’t believe this , I ask you this–Obama’s Christmas vacation is said by Washington to have cost 20 million dollars, he just went to FLA with friends to play golf, again it is said to have cost 7 million dollars, all in less than 2 months.
WHAT IF BUSH WAS STILL IN OFFICE ? The Democrats have driven up our national debt by 60% in 4 years, failed stimulus, auto, housing and green energy. The world credit rating brought down twice, ( never in our history did that happen ) lies upon lies, cover ups ( LIBYA ) –8 % not working for over 48 straight months, our best generals being removed, no border support, NEED I GO ON.
The news media only says what the WH approves, I say to congress–STAND GROUND–LET OBAMA WHERE THE SHOES—THEY DID IT –the world will not stop. IT IS A BLUFF__CONGRESS CALL THEM OUT—-DON’T CAVE.—
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freenj
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:58pmIf this is true, then it is about time the Federal employees felt the pain that the rest of us civilians feel!
But of course Panetta is freaking lying, just to scare everyone, so that the repubs cave in to king 0.
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Stelex
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:56pmFolks……this is a 2% hit………in case you didn’t notice, you on Jan 1 got a 2% hit in the form of a payroll tax hike. Did you collapse and stop fending for your family, stop feeding your family, no you cut back non essential’s. 95% of Government is non essential. Get angry, stop being stupid.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:19pma house hold is a little different than the defense department.
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Stelex
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:30pmNo Keaton, its not. Math is math. You’ve been sold the argument that its just to complicated. Wow you are such a little thinker aren’t you. Yes for some reason physics, math and all order are different in Washington, its just to much for you to understand son. Let us tell you how to think.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:49pmStelex… a 2% cut to a household means you have to wait a little for that new TV. A 2% cut for any department means thousands if not hundreds of thousands of jobs…. see the difference?
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Stelex
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:04pmYou are truly a product of public schooling…….you have my sympathy. Moron
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soybomb315_II
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:18pmthat is a good point stelex. if 2% cut is good enough for us, then it is good enough for government. If the military needs to cut money somewhere, they can stop making so many drones and all the research on micro-drones
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BobtheMoron
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:56pmLast year they cut 487billionover 10 years from the defense budget. That’s 48.7 billion a year or nearly twice the ‘Sequester”. All of this is bull****.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:18pmThey take in one trillion and spend two trillion and expect us to think that’s okay,and the only people who think that’s okay are the brain dead fools who voted for the disaster that is BHO.
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Keatonc333
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:06pmprogslayer… you know whats funny? Most of the red states who voted against Obama take in twice as much from the government as they pay! Want to fix our deficit? have conservative governors do their jobs or at least act conservative! Like say Governors of.. Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, West Virginia, North Dakota, Alabama, South Dakota, Virginia, Kentucky, Montana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Arizona, North Carolina, and Wyoming…. They all take more from the government then they pay in.. The first 3 twice as much! want to preach conservative principles, start practicing them!
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:14pmKeaton You need to stop watching msnbc they’re filling your skull with BS lies because the ‘red’ states take in less and are more productive than the leeches in the ‘blue’ states. Come on get with the program,don’t you want the truth and facts?
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:54pmDefense Dept. getting decimated? That should satisfy the little piggies with a D next to their name,they’re progressive filth just as bad as the little piggies with an R next to their name. King Obama appeared on state TV with his cop props and doing his worn out routine of getting rid of every cop in America if this sequester goes through. The POS would be laughable if his disastrous reign weren’t so destructive but the simpletons who forced the POS fraud on us will lap it up and believe every lie,their limited intelligence is their curse and unfortunately we pay for their idiocy.
Reduce the government by 80% and we’ll make some progress but we know that won’t happen because that would mean giving up power and control and any prog worth it’s salt would never allow that.
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bekhiet
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:12pmProgressiveslayer I am glad you are always so logical.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:53pmSo that means you’ll each have to somehow get by with only 15 secretary’s and 12 interns?
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:41pmI know our section has more programs shifted to us from cuts made at other bases, we now have more workload, but they have already cut our personnel 20%, but we are supposed to make up the difference with working more hours, which they won’t authorize or pay for, but we have to get the work done so we just do it without pay. In my section we maintain satellite systems that get the “Spy” data and other systems back to their users, and yet we have to maintain 25-40 year old systems with less money, less people, and now less days. And yet when a shutdown was threatened over the last few years, I was willing to just come in and meet with my contractors to keep my programs moving, and I was told if I did, that was a fireable offense. We are not to work at all during a shutdown, so the mission suffers, and our Soldiers/Seamen/Airmen/Marines suffer. Please remember, there are a lot of patriots that work Civil Service, and I don’t get a great big pension, after 20 years (I will be 65), I will retire, after paying into my own pension fund, with a $1,300 a month pension and no healthcare. My main retirement comes from my own 401k and my military retirement. These golden pension plans aren’t given to the lowly GS workers, I don’t have a union screaming about cuts, I and many more like me are the first and only ones cut. Please remember that before trying to judge all of us for the sins of the Top Tier.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:16pmThe hours where I work (I manage a drug store) have gone from using 650 hours a week to 415. My pay was cut 5K 3 years ago and is about to be cut by another 25% within the next several months…plus they are adding dozens of technical offenses that will result in termination…plus we have almost zero growth. We (management) get no breaks or lunches and are not allowed to call in sick. Oh, their rules allow it and you get 6 sick days a year…but how do you take a lunch when you are the only one there to catch calls for 9 hours straight? How can you call in sick when you either open alone or close alone and nobody will cover, and no overtime is allowed under penalty of termination? We actually get fired if we are observed three times either not saying “Welcome to Walgreens!” or “Thank you and be well!”…I have about $450,000 now in savings from investing my own money in profit sharing, real estate and IRA’s…and I don’t get squat from the government (social security) until I hit at least 65 unless I want to take a big hit. And we have to actually show a PROFIT for what we do to stay in business & employed.
So, sorry…but I won’t ever shed a single tear for government workers or contractors. They’ve been gargling with gravy for decades…let them finally taste the same pain the rest of us do 24/7.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:31pmWow, $450k, after 22 years in the military, and with all the benifits that WERE supposed to be part of our pay has now been cut and taken away, I may have earned that much, over 22 years. But I guess our Military are just overpaid, underworked goons. The rate I am saving, with 15% of my pay going into my 401K, I may have about $300k after 20 years if my investments actually make money. So, I think you have been doing very well.
I shop at Walgreens and I love your stores, so thank you for providing a wonderful service.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Feb. 20, 2013 at 8:57pmI’m 54 and have been working 40-60 hours a week since I was 17. I’ve only once ever made more than 55K in a year…usually only about 40-45K. But I’m cheap, never married and prefer white walls, quiet & an ice cold coke to any sort of “night life.”
I appreciate government workers…but believe there are far too many of them. I doubt if most of them have any idea what it means to make a profit or meet deadlines…or have their jobs constantly threatened for not doing so. That is why they get paid less than their counterparts in the “real” world. It’s there choice…get paid less and have a secure job for life…or get paid more and have to earn your keep.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 20, 2013 at 9:17pmI did work in manufacturing before I went into the service, in the 80′s I was facing a big layoff, and all the other shops were closing down. No jobs left, so I joined the service and decided I would stick with it until I stopped having fun. 22 years later I retired, so I don’t regret serving my country, I knew I would get rich, and I was working 50-60 hours a week, especially when I became a supervisor and was running a shop. So, I know what it is like working hard, and also trying to make a profit. The approach myself and a lot of my coworkers take is we get a pot of money, and we have to budget what maintenance issues need to be paid for first, what the best value for the taxpayer’s dollar we can get, we have to watch the contractor and scrub all their bids to find “Fat” and get the best value for our limited funds. And at the end of the day, I always hope I did my best for my country.
And I commend your lifestyle, it sounds a lot like me and my wife, we are Dave Ramseyites. Never borrow money, pay cash, and if you do have to borrow for something like a car, pay it off as fast as you can.
I have worked my **** off during my life hopefully so my Son can go to college and he won’t have to make the choices I was forced to make early in life. That is all we can do.
I think we have more in common in our work than you think. My only gripe is I have seen my pay being cut, no chance for promotion, more work hours, now they want more? But Congress make no sa
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 20, 2013 at 9:21pmSorry, it should have said “Wouln’t get rich.” As my 1st Sgt used to say, “Just look for that overtime pay in your Christmas Bonus check, those come out on Dec 32nd.”
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Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:53pmGovernment Workers, welcome to the real world.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:08pmI have lived in the real world, I haven’t had even a cost of living adjustment in 3 years, and now this accounts for a $6k cut in pay for the year. It’s not the average DoD worker that is the problem, and yet we are taking it up the wazoo. The biggest problem in the Govt is the Higher up, the DC workers and Managers, the Generals and their staff that take boondoggles to Hawaii or other places for a 1 day conference, but spend the week. When you look at someone like me, at the worker bee level, I do my job, I watch over a budget for my programs like I watch over my own checkbook. I work overtime a lot without claiming it, mostly because they won’t approve any, so I just don’t bother, but I still get the mission done. People like the GSA that spent millions on a getaway, Pentagon staff, the highest of managers give us all a bad name. And now this, it won’t hurt them, they already have ways to get around being cut, but it is us down in the trenches doing the job everyday. We are the ones that have been taking the cuts for three years and now will take a big cut in pay. I don’t make hundreds of thousands of dollars, I make a decent wage, but comparable to working in the contractor world, I make about 30% less, but I do this because I do feel I am a watchdog over the taxpayers money. So when you start throwing your “Good, cut them more, make them feel our pain”, remember, we aren’t all driving Mercedes.
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Stelex
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:52pmThe key word here folks is “Civilian” WTF, this is black male, extorsion at its finest. The biggest bloated gov of all time is telling us if we don’t pay up “CIVILIANS” will lose there jobs. Are you f’n kidding me. The lack of rage and ire from blaze posters as well as anywhere else tells me your all still in denial. No less than the Mafia and Loan Sharks are running our country. The target is the middle class. You are about to be bled dry. If you ain’t pissed, outraged or furious…..then just go back to sleep
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13th Imam
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:49pmOn July 27th 2011 Jack Lew and Rob Nabors met with Dirty Harry Reid and his Chief of Staff met and created this Sequester business.
On Nov 21 2011 Barry Soetoro “Jugears ” Obama said the following:
Already, some in congress (Repubs) are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts(I ASKED FOR).My ( Barry’s) message to them is simple, NO!. I will VETO ANY effort to get rid of these automatic spending cuts to domestic and defense. There will be no easy off ramps on this on
A Quote from Jugears himself
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UNALIEN
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:54pmObama owns it…
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dublinthewagons
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:16pmThat means jugears had nothing to do with it. LMAO
E only accepts responsibility for things that go right, not wrong.
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freeberty
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:48pm“The Pentagon has begun discussing details of the furloughs with defense worker union officials”.
This sentence makes me wonder, is it the Pentagon or the union officials running our defense department?
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MDECKER
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:47pmAnything this President fights so hard for, I’m against. He is not, a man of integrity.
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VoteRightDammit
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:46pmWOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The first EVER actual spending cut !!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a wonderful day!
Of course, the useless & worthless politicians were too chicken shoot to do this in any sane, professional way …. not a one of them would EVER survive in a real job. but ~~~ HEY! ~~~ ANY spending cut is a GOOD spending cut!
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13th Imam
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:52pmThis is Not a spending cut. It was a reduction in the rate of increase. See Baseline Budgeting
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DisgustedinUSA
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:44pmI’d LOVE to hear that the cuts start with obama and bidens protection. Thats where they need to start cutting.
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showmerancher
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:43pmLet’s see. You just gave us an $85 Billion tax increase. The sequester will require $85 Billion in cuts. In fact, it will cut government spending levels like we haven’t seen since… since… 2011, the year that the sequester became law. Imagine the hardship America will have to live through under the austerity we had back then. Remember, these cuts were supposed to be an offset to the last increase of the Debt Ceiling, which we’ve already surpassed.
Folks, this is all about creating alarm about spending cuts so that we wouldn’t dare ask for more cuts as they desperately must increase the Debt Ceiling by $1-2 TRILLION in the coming weeks. And with no budget in place, once that is accomplished that can go on with unlimited, wanton spending as usual. In other words, they (the whole lot in Washington) are again putting it to the American taxpayers, their children, grand children and even more generations to come.
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truckingoff
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:39pmCall their Bluf. I want to see the GOP grow a set, and make Obama own this one. They just sit in the back of the room with their thumbs up their as#es.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:43pmObmacare, irs spending… It’s ALL there. Repeat the truth over and over and over….
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Ghandi was a Republican
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:39pmOnly because obama already cut $400 Billion from Our NATIONAL DEFENSE! His one true job title.
Progressive social enginerring, central planning Communism appears NOWHERE in his job description. Not only did he NOT run on it- HE DENIED it was his platform. Legally, ethiucally obama is breaking the social contract he lied about to get elected. SAY NO TO THE COMMIE BASSTERD. When he says “I won the election” say “NOT ON THAT YOU DIDN”T — PROVE IT”
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Fubared
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:37pmPoor MD thinks crime is up and “revenue” is down now…your man child wants this for you. It is for you, and of course the chillren.
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freeberty
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:35pmWow, 800,000 government parasites furloughed, seems like a good start.
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Fubared
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:39pmAlso more time to get handled at the airport. For fun and games.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/3-hour-airport-security-waits-under-sequester/article/2522078
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Ghandi was a Republican
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:41pmObama will find every penny for Obamacare And increased IRS manpower. It will be obama and OBAMA alone for any ills from reduced spending INCREASES.
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Evolved
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:06pmNice. Care for the unborn and not people with families trying to support them. Oh, wife’s pregnant? Lost your job? Can’t afford another to feed another mouth? Tough luck, that’s a human inside your wife an we’re gonna force her to have it. Ah but once it’s born, we don’t give a damn. F the children in poverty.
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Fubared
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:13pmDe evolved. This is 0 bidness. You hired a community agitator. Revel in the bidness wisdom of your betters.
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freeberty
Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:27pmEvolve,
This article isn’t about your gold tooth, Obama cell phone using, section 8 mom and baby daddy, half brothers and sisters.
It’s about government sub-contractor parasites being given a 1 day unpaid holiday per week.
Only just a good start.
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The_Jerk
Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:34pmMake it an even million.
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