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Report: Turkey Wants to Take Back Turkish Children Adopted by Foreign Christian or Gay Couples

Feb. 20, 2013 9:59am Sharona Schwartz

Report: Turkey Wants to Repatriate Turkish Children Adopted by Foreign Christian or Gay Couples

Turkey and EU flags (File photo: Friedemann Vogel/Getty)

Government officials in Turkey are campaigning to take back Turkish children who were adopted by overseas Christian or gay couples, saying those lifestyles don’t coincide with the nation’s Islamic values.

The Turkish site Hurriyet Daily News reports on the campaign to retrieve the adoptees who were given to Christian couples in European countries. According to the article, the first step in the campaign is to take them away from gay and lesbian couples. Hurriyet reports:

One of the main cases included in the campaign revolves around 9-year-old Yunus, who was taken from his parents at the age of six months after his parents allegedly dropped him on the ground. The child was then placed under the care of a lesbian couple in the Netherlands.

Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdağ instructed Turkish representatives in foreign countries to jumpstart the process to take Yunus back from the family, including making official contacts with the Dutch government.

Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Commission was also instructed to conduct searches in other countries and prepare a report on the matter.

Ayhan Sefer Üstün who heads the commission called the raising of a child in his or her own culture “a sacred right” that should be determined via the judicial process, not administrative decisions.

“We don’t condemn that culture, but the child has been given to a foreign culture, to a lesbian family. Even if a child is taken from the family for the right reasons, he or she should be placed with a family closer to his or her culture,” Üstün said.

Nine-year-old Yunus’s family had in the past appealed for his return, but was rejected by the courts. The Turkish paper reports that the application was denied, because the mother did not speak Dutch, a reason that does not appear to be plausible.

The paper reports that Deputy Prime Minister Bozdağ said that Turkish authorities plan to appeal on the diplomatic front, while in parallel, officials will work via the courts on the family’s behalf, claiming the adoption caused “a violation of human rights and psychological damage done to the child.”

The LGBT publication 429Magazine asked the Turkish Human Rights Commission to comment, but did not receive a response.

The treatment of children in Turkish orphanages was shown in a negative light in 2008 when Britain’s Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson and a television crew filmed at two state-run orphanages. According to British media accounts, undercover footage showed children tied to their beds, left in their cots all day, dressed in rags, some with shaven heads. Turkey tried Ferguson in absentia. She faces charges of going “against the law in acquiring footage and violating privacy” which carry a maximum sentence of 22 and ½ years in prison.

Ferguson said, “I went in there to highlight the plight of children and I have.”

“Now it seems that I have embarrassed the Turkish Government. Well, let’s hope that I have embarrassed them enough in order for them to make changes in the welfare of their children,” she added.

A similar adoption debate is playing out in Spain which has agreed to a Moroccan demand that Spanish families who adopt Moroccan children will maintain the child’s Muslim religious and cultural heritage.

Soeren Kern of the Gatestone Institute reported Wednesday: “The agreement obliges the Spanish government to establish a ‘control mechanism’ that would enable Moroccan religious authorities to monitor the children until they reach the age of 18 to ensure they have not converted to Christianity.”

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Comments (151)

shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:38pm
THE_DOORS_OF_PERCEPTION
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:31pm
@comforteagle

Liz has a long history of repressing her deviant sexual desires, she thinks she is dirty and sick…and has been commanded to be well. She does a lot of projecting…this has caused her a lot of pain and made her and extremely hateful and unhappy person, although pretty funny at times. She is probably drunk and checking TMZ for Beyonce pictures right now…don’t pay her any attention.”

@Doors of Deception:

Was that you who just called my 900 number breathing heavy? BAHAHAHA!

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Yes
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 3:16pm
  Doors is one sick, twisted puppy.
  
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comforteagle
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:34pm
Shorelineliz 101

1. i like to hate
2. I like to make lists
3. I think if i number my ramblings people will think they are points
4. If you cant defend what you believe, just use fallacies or hate speech
5. Make sure to post 6 times in a row to let people know your serious
6. Hope nobody takes time to point out all your lies
7. If you throw enough crap against the wall, something will stick
8. Im awesome

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:47pm
  COMFORTEAGLE:
  
  1. i like to hate even more than Shorelineliz: I have the Book of Timothy to prove it
  2. I like to make lists because Liz seems to like to make lists. Lists are cool!
  3. I love to ramble on. I also love the song, “Rambling Rose”
  4. If love fallatio and once again I love to say, “hate! Hate! Hate! Hate I love Hate!
  5. I really don’t care about what shorelineliz just posted but I am pissed at my wife today!
  6. I will just quote the Bible all day to prove I am right
  7. If you throw enough crap inside my house like I do at my wife. sorry honey. did that leave a bruise?
  8. Im awesome. So much more awesome than women. Book of Timothy says so! I rock!
  
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- comforteagle
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:55pm
  The blaze really brings em outta the….. (somewhere with crazy people)
  
  1. Once someone calls you out, dont defend your view; just throw more crap
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:32pm
COMFORTEAGLE
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:12pm
After reading your declarations i have no idea how ppl can think that christians are judgmental, irrational, and mean spirited… you should teach classes

I do teach classes on Feminist Theory 101. Didn’t you get my syllabus up above? I’m also not a Christian! I just “USE” the Bible to further my OWN AGENDA like you, right?

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- comforteagle
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:36pm
  Epistimilogicaly im agnostic but metaphysicly im athiest
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:39pm
  I had to ascertain the fact that there were two of you conversing.It looked more like a scene out of sybil.
  
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ofass
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:32pm
But Islam is so enlightened religion…..how can it be?
Well, you wont hear the Jerky answering you.

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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:30pm
COMFORTEAGLE
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:22pm
Men are better than women = timmithy 2: 12

JEREMIAH 17:9- The heart of men is desperately wicked.

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:37pm
  She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled. -Ezekiel 23:20-21
  
  God is such a poet…
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:24pm
COMFORTEAGLE
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:17pm
U have alot of hate in you. very christian :-P

@Comfort Eagle:
Just hate? That’s it? That’s your best shot is “hate”? That has been done to death. YAWN.

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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:22pm
Feminist Theory 101:

1. Men start all the wars. They are pigs and dogs. Bent on world domination of land and women.
2. Men are useless losers living in their mamas basement sucking the very life out of their mothers.
3. Men are useless losers who will do anything for attention. Anything.
4. Men are mind numbing and soul sucking parasites. They should have all been drowned at birth.
5. Men have no concept of anyone but themselves. They are selfish apes and brutes.
6. Men do most of the killing and raping in the world.
7. Men use whatever philosophy they want to dominate women and children.
8. Men are patently selfish and just want to get into women’s pants.
9. Men are all liars. They will say anything to get into a woman’s pants.
10. Most of the people in prison are men.
11. Most men are deadbeat dads. They father children and will not pay.
12. Men are callous and cold toward anything that interferes with their lives.
13. Men are children who live in their mamas basement. They will not grow up.
14. At least gay men can cut ****, accessorize, interior design and most have jobs!
15. Men cheat, lie, steal, start wars, and cause most of the misery and pain in the world.
16. Men think they are so much smarter than women but we know better. They are stupid!
17. Men should be drowned at birth.

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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:11pm
Other Stupid Stuff Atheists Think But Are Too Dishonest Too Admit:

1. I am so in love with Jim Parsons of “Big Bang Theory.” He’s gay you know?
2. Men are smart. Women are stupid. Just look at how my Mom waits on me hand and foot?
3. Every war since time began has been started by women telling men to, “go for it!”
4. Men are superior creatures to women in every way. Just look at my girlfriend! Woof!
5. Men are dogs. We really know it. But we don’t care. It’s Evolution! You can’t change that!
6. Christians believe in myth. Atheists believe in Science. We win! I guess. Sort of. Maybe.
7. Atheists developed Theory of Evolution from Charles Darwin. A Christian. A Theologian. oops!
8. Even though Charles Darwin was both a Christian and Theologian that doesn’t matter. I think.
9. What does matter is that Atheist Scientists took his original data and turned it into apes.
10. I mean. It is not that much of a stretch to say that Atheists have Ape Ancestors, right?
11. I mean. There is NO conclusive proof that Atheists came from Apes, right?
12. I mean. I just LOVE Jim Parsons of Big Bang Theory, don’t you?
13. I have no life. I live in mamas basement.
14. The Turkish government is trying to take back my kid. They say I neglect him. WTF?
15. I think I will call Bitter Barista. Must smoke this weed first and tackle Level 47. It’s a bitch!
16. Mom! Where is that dam bottle opener? Mom!

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- comforteagle
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:17pm
  U have alot of hate in you. very christian :-P
  
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- comforteagle
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:22pm
  Men are better than women = timmithy 2: 12
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:31pm
  @comforteagle
  
  Liz has a long history of repressing her deviant sexual desires, she thinks she is dirty and sick…and has been commanded to be well. She does a lot of projecting…this has caused her a lot of pain and made her and extremely hateful and unhappy person, although pretty funny at times. She is probably drunk and checking TMZ for Beyonce pictures right now…don’t pay her any attention.
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:02pm
What Atheists Really Think But Won’t Say Because They Will Not Be Honest:

1. I really don’t know how the world got started. When I arrived here all this stuff was already here.
2. When scientists try to replicate the big bang all they get is an atomic explosions of destruction.
3. I live in my mamas basement and have no life.
4. I play video games, watch porn, drink beer, smoke weed and pretend to be smart.
5. I’m really not that smart. I just pretend to be smart because I have no life.
6. I have rock bottom self esteem and no life.
7. I never grew up. Mom never let me grow up. It’s her fault I never grew up.
8. I have a worthless philosophy degree.
9. I can’t get a job. Maybe that Bitter Barista is hiring?
10. I have a 240,000 Columbia University school loan debt I can never pay off. I’m pissed.
11. I’m really angry because all these rich kids had their rich daddies pay their tuition. I didn’t
12. I am seriously jealous of anyone who has anything more than me. I hate everybody.
13. I hate myself.
14. Christians are all immoral. Even though Jesus wanted peace. War is bad. Peace is good.
15. I don’t have to believe in God anymore. No one can make me. I am in charge now!
16. I went to Christian School for awhile but it was crap. I hated wearing uniforms!
17. I am the measure of all authority now on what is moral. I’m in charge of my life.
18. No one can tell me anything. I know everything. I have a philosophy degree from Columbia U
19. War is bad.

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- comforteagle
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:12pm
  After reading your declarations i have no idea how ppl can think that christians are judgmental, irrational, and mean spirited… you should teach classes
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:29pm
  @ Shorelineliz
  
  1. Technically, it was here before all of us. Noone will know precisely what happened, but we can look at the universe around us and learn a great deal.
  2. But are they doing it right? And the idea of trying to replicate it seems like a bad idea, in my opinion. Would the creation of a new universe require the ending of the current one?
  3. I’m married, living with my wife and daughter. I work for a living and have a very happy life.
  4. I do play video games and will have a beer when I can. As do many American Christians for that matter. I don’t do drugs and don’t pretend to be smart.
  5. While I’m not a genius, and consider myself at least moderately intelligent.
  6. I have plenty of self esteem. Watching my daughter grow has only improved that.
  7. My mother, and father, made sure I grew up and taught me to be a productive member of society.
  8. I don’t have a philosophy degree, I have a bachelors in science, triple major. And it has served me well.
  9. I have a job. A good one at that. It pays the bills and keeps me out of debt. I live within my means.
  10. I don’t have a student loan. I went on scholarship because my parents made sure my school was a priority.
  11. I don’t really care about the rich kids. Good on their parents for making money so that they can do that.
  12. Many people have more than me. But I have all I need.
  13. I cannot hate myself when I look at my daughter, my wife or the life I have.
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:36pm
  14. I know many Christians. They are very nice people, and I’m glad to call several my friends. Jesus did want peace, but wasn’t against taking arms to protect the defenseless.
  15. The 1st amendment says I can believe in the flying spaghetti monster if I want to. And noone, not even the government, can tell me otherwise. While I’m in charge of my life, I still have to live within societies rules.
  16. I never went to Christian school, though I wish my school had uniforms. I was wearing one for cadets anyway.
  17. I don’t fool myself into thinking I decide was is moral. Can I start killing now and say its moral? I don’t think any court would let me get away with that.
  18. I am a student of the world. I have a lot to learn and haven’t come close to knowing “everything.”
  19. War is generally bad. But it has it’s purposes. Like defending the weak.
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:54pm
What Atheists Really Think and Why Turkey Should Take Back Children From Them:

1. Creationism is false. Evolution is true. My ancestors were apes in Africa.
2. The Bible is full of war and is immoral. I play with my Monkey Balls all day.
3. Captain Kirk is sexier than Captain Jean Luc Picard. I am playing with his figurine.
4. Mom! Where are my Pizza Pockets? Mom! I’m Hungry! Mom! Right Now!
5. Mom! I said to get the beer with the twist off top! Mom! Need a bottle opener Now!
6. I am currently at Part 52;Level 47 of World of Warcraft. Oops! Where is that kid now?
7. Mom! Have you seen my kid? Mom! I told you to watch him! Mom!
8. War is immoral. Peace is good. You can “talk” your way out of anything.
9. War is immoral. Except when I play it on video games. Then it is moral. I said so.
10. This stick of weed won’t hurt my kid. He is finally back in his playpen asleep.
11. So glad he is finally back in his playpen asleep so I can play with my Monkey Balls.

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:34pm
  don’t forget…
  
  1)Snakes talk
  2)all animals in the world fit on one boat
  3)the creator of the cosmos wrote a book
  4)men can live in large fish
  5)Human sacrifice works
  6)I will live forever(where I hopefully won’t have anymore desire for women)
  7) I actually believe that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
  
  Oh wait that’s you…
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:01pm
  @shorelineliz
  1. I don’t believe in creationism. To me there is a great deal of evidence for it, however, there is still a lot of research to do. Hell, maybe God’s plan was evolution. Since science cannot prove Gods existence or non-existence, I cannot know.
  2. Actually, I don’t remember the Bible having a great deal of war. It was mostly parables and moral stories. And I have better things to do then play with my balls all day. Like work and support my family.
  3. I have no opinion on who’s sexier. Picard was a better captain, however. And I don’t own any action figures.
  4. I’m married, living with my wife and 11 month old daughter. I’m not at home with my parents.
  5. See 4.
  6. Level 90 actually. And that’s only after the kitchen has been cleaned, the baby bathed and tucked in and asleep, and after the other chores are done. I get maybe 30-60 minutes, every couple nights.
  7. See 4.
  8. While peace is generally preferable, War is necessary when it is justified. Some people will only listen when the war machine is pointed at them. War for the sake of war, just costs us lives and money. And the US could use more of both right now.
  9. See 8. War in video games doesn’t justify it either. It’s just a form of entertainment, like movies.
  10. There are no illegal drugs in my household, nor will there ever be.
  11. I am glad when my daughter is asleep, it means my wife and I can get things done in the house, not to play with my balls. Though, my wife plays wit
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:07pm
  1. Evidence for evolution that is. Not creationism.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 5:46pm
  If Demographics is the future than people like Doors of Perception are history. Muslims will talk of Doors’ beliefs as the ignorant times. It will be Muslims writing the history books. With less than 2 children being born into Western families and the Turkish Prime Minister advocating 3 and Muslims able to immigrate to Europe. Well Doors’ way of life is doomed.
  
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:35pm
Every dime sent to an Islamic nation, supports the religion of Islam, violating the 1st amendment rights of taxpayers, creating a false sense of security that encourages tourism of Islamic nations that should not be occuring?

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- encinom
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:43pm
  Same can be said about funding the theocracy Israel.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:55pm
  …and here comes the Jew-bashing. That didn’t take long.
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:17pm
  @ enimeeny…
  I. Israel is not a theocracy whereas every mozlem nation is since they recognize sharia law.
  2. Better to be on the side of God’s chosen than against them – and that has been proven over and over again historically. I am sorry, you are the product of progressive education so you haven’t been taught well on American or world history.
  
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zoro51
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:07pm
seriously to RAPE kids form caring parents n place them back into MURDERING MUSLUMS hands where they are taught to KILL n worship a STONE IDOL and berqte women hit them keep them UN educated RAPE THEM marry them off at age 8 GEE wwow really??? here in america they have a far better chance of SURVIVAL love care LIFE take them back to MUSLUM n they will be abused MURDERD.. remember what i said ISLAM is a man made cut of hate n death they disreguard A life.. much let alone ANY LIFE… the KIDS STAY PUT.. its obvious that YOU MURDERING MUSLUMS care NOT for your kids.. at least americans have the HEART to adopt your THROWAWAYS that YOU discard.. to show them LOVE n care.. GAY PARENTS and CHRISTIANS can do this.. SADLY you all MUSLUMS care about is KILLING one another n others who DO not worship your false stone god

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fastgen1
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:09am
I personally think that gay people are an abomination to God. These people are evil, sick, individuals and should not be teaching normal children the ways of Sodom and Gomorrah. Perversion is something that should be avoided at all costs. Turkey should take the children back, post haste at all costs.

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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:30am
  Same goes for Christian’s, i’m glad they’re taking babies back from christians…one less person who would think like you.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:31pm
  DOORS – And too bad your mother didn’t happenstance by a Planned Parenthood office for “advice”.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:36pm
  FASTGEN
  
  Homosexuality is an abomination to God not the people doing the sin. Might want to re-read your Bible. Remember, we all deserve hell. “For there is none righteous, no not one.” “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God”.
  
  I’m against homosexuality but have known a lot of pretty nice gay people. You should pray for their repentance, not their judgement.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:45pm
  Fastgen1, proving that the bigotry displayed by Turkey is only matched by the hate the spews from America’s Christians.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:58pm
  @ENCINOM
  
  Oh boo hoo. My widdle feewings was hurt. You sure showed us…..
  
  Judging all Christians by one guy would be like me assuming all liberals are hate-filled morons just because what you post. Doesn’t seem fair does it?
  
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:27pm
  @squid
  
  Before you comment the same tired thing you do “aww did i hewt yo fewwings” or whatever it is you do…you didn’t hurt my feelings. Just so were clear.
  
  Again, it’s what is to be expected from a cult of human sacrifice. It creates a death cult…eternal human torture…sounds right…armegeddon and the death of millions…sounds good to me! Just so you can tell the difference between us…I will never wish for your death especially in such a flippant manner while discussing differing opinions on mythical superstitions. Shows how strong your argument is…would be a lot easier for you if people like me were never born huh?
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:42pm
  @redspotbluestate
  I stated it that way as they are the only reasons that I know of that allows it to be nullified in any country.The sarcastic but true quip about the states is because this is what they do.I’m American.Can I not comment on my own country of birth crimes now?Is this some new rule the bloody elites made while I was asleep.
  
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Southerner01
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:05am
They cannot “take back” children who have been adopted. They are now the children of the adoptive parents. They can, like Russia, change who they let adopt children going forward, but adoption is not meant tot be something you can undo.

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- spirited
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:19am
  That would seem too logical …..and humanitarian.
  
  >What’s social justice got to say about this?
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:55am
  The problem is, it’s not what we consider adoption. Adoption from muslim countries are dictated by Islamic la, particularily a law known as Kafala. Children adopted according to Kafala do not become the adoptors children, they are simply guardians and must teach the children the ways of islam, whether the parents are muslim are not. It’s a complicated and convoluted law, I’d suggest googling Kafala or click the link in the last paragraph of the article, which gives more information on the law.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:19pm
  Wrong.Adoption can be nullified.If it were entered into under duress fraud or coercion.Well unless its the state then you can forget it,.Thats their natural style.
  
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- RedSpotinaBlueState
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:50pm
  Why do you assume that other countries follow the U.S. adoption laws? It’s ridiculous to say that they “can’t” take the child after it’s been adopted. Those are OUR laws. Turkey can do whatever it can coerce the adoptor’s country to do.
  
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- GetRight
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 4:50pm
  I can’t believe any government can tell a couple adopting a child how they must raise THEIR child, and Spain is allowing this! No wonder their country is going down the tubes. They have no backbone or principles. These countries are bullies. Just stop foreign adoptions! Keep all these unwanted children in your crap hole country in horrible orphanages; that is so much better. But to actually ask for these children back or dictate to a family how a child should be raised is ridiculous! I hope they stand up for these kids!
  
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kat747
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:56am
This is so typical of these middle east countries….nothing but stupid demands.
Turkey along with Spain, Russia and Rumania could NOT take care of these children and kept them
in “abusive” “filthy” conditions and after they are adopted, these countries make rules for “taking care of them” when they could NOT.
After those adoption papers are signed, Turkey, YOU ARE FINISHED. So give it up.
And as for getting them back……the adoption is already a done deal.
Those parents of these children won’t give them back to you even if you refunded every last dime
that it cost to get them and then some.

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jocko
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:56am
This is a tough one. Which is worse for an innocent child? to be raised by homosexuals or pagan mozlems? I’d say take them from both and pass them to a Christian family. Not that all Christian families are going to be great but at least the child will have a chance of normalcy and salvation.

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- antitheism
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:08pm
  Do you even know what a pagan is? If any anything, xians are more like pagans because of their following of stolen pagan rituals during xmas time.
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:32pm
  Pagans – heathens – atheists, all the same in my book and THE Book. All going to the same long term residence. Choose your name, they are all losers in the Book of Life. They don’t have to be but they make their choices and will get the consequences.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:47pm
  So Jocko, tell me again how Christanity is a religion of peace and love, when Christians on the Blaze seem to only be able to spew hate and ignorance.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 12:54pm
  Snap! I didn’t know putting up a Christmas tree meant I worshiped a pagan god! I always thought it was just a pretty cool tradition.
  
  I love when atheists pretend to know more about your beliefs than you do. FYI, there is no biblical command to celebrate Christmas. The Catholics started it and the rest of us thought it was pretty cool.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:00pm
  @ENCINOM
  
  Dude, you really need to stop crying about all the supposed “hate”. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t make it “hate”. Man up and quit crying….
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:15pm
  What hate? Believe or lose, your choice. Islam has always been the religion of terror. The middle east was almost totally Christian, by choice, not by the sword until mohammed dreamed up islam. Then he and his Crusaders forcibly ‘converted’ the middle east, africa and part of europe to islam by murder and enslavement.
  
  Homosexuality is a perversion affecting only 1-2% of the population. Cancer affects 4% of the population and we don’t consider cancer a normal condition.
  
  Just because Christians still believe in the moral absolutes of the Bible, doesn’t make them ignorant. You self proclaimed ‘enlightened’ people ignore all of written history because every civilization that has become ‘enlightened’ enough to think that homosexuality is tolerable in society has failed miserably… Babylon, Greece, Rome, and Europe is well on its way, again.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:11pm
  What makes fools out of christians is that they believe the Bible is factual. But than from your post, I can see you have zero understanding of world history, it was Christians that started the crusades, when they weren’t burning witches, scientists and jews.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:36pm
  @jocko
  No athiests pagans and heathens are not the same.Athiests don’t believe.Heathens are those shunned from their tribe clan.Pagans have many gods.Oh yes the bible does mention other Gods.You just can’t put them before him.At least if you wish to be insulting have some facts to back it.Otherwise you simply look like a narrow minded ignorant fool.
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 4:14pm
  @enyminny….
  
  Well, only the Christian attempts to save Jerusalem and the Holy Land from the mozlem barbarians starting in 1095 AD were called Crusades. However, the mozlems’ started their own version of crusades when they began their conquering invasions starting in the 600s and lasting through 1000 AD. So, the mozlems started their aggressions hundreds of years before the Christians Crusades to restore the Holy Land to its Christian roots which had been in place for over 500 years before the mozlems went on their murdering rampages.
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 6:30pm
  @ “objective”truth?
  
  I know you suffer from a progressive education so reading comprehension wasn’t a requirement. However, I said, “Pagans – heathens – atheists, all the same in my book and THE Book.” I really don’t care what they think of themselves because in the end, because of their choices, they all end up in the same place.
  
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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 6:55pm
  @Objective?
  
  One more thing, you should look up ‘heathen’ in a real dictionary as you are totally wrong. Again, a sign of your progressive education.
  
  Alright, I know that was hard… according to http://www.dictionary.com a heathen is:
  noun
  1. an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.
  2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
  
  adjective
  3. of or pertaining to heathens; pagan.
  4. irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized.
  
  That pretty much covers it all, doesn’t it?
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:51pm
  @Jocko
  Lord you are a real tool.My education wasn’t from progressives.Heathen is another word for those being shunned from the tribes or clans.Hum like for uncivilized behavior.Is that the best you can find fault with me on?Come now.Lets try harder shall we.You dont’ care what they think.They will all go to hell if they don’t believe in The BOOK.News flash your good book also mentions other gods.Hum I guess now God is wrong.Seems to me that God and Jesus ran across pagans.He didn’t admonish them the way you do me.
  Oh but thats right you are better than anyone else and can say and do what you want come hell or high water.Just keep using that book as a shield to hide behind.Don’t worry God will get you for it in the end.
  
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Will-db
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:49am
A predictably muted response from The Blaze commenters, as they realise they agree with the radical Muslims, but can’t bear to admit it….

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- jocko
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:08am
  Here’s your response dippo…
  
  Which is worse for an innocent child? to be raised by homosexuals or pagan mozlems? I’d say take them from both and pass them to a Christian family. Not that all Christian families are going to be great but at least the child will have a chance of normalcy and salvation.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 1:03pm
  Just making stuff up there aren’t ya?
  
  Actually, I would rather the kids be adopted by a Muslim than an atheist. At least Muslims have an ounce of humility and don’t claim to know everything.
  
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Walkabout
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:41am
KeatonC333 can do nothing against the Turk. She or he is too much of a leftist to counter their philosophy.

Keats will not take up arms, will not strenuously criticize& will not have enough kids to matter.

Keats will vanish into the ash heap of history at the hands of Muslims. The only way she could propagate her ideals into the future is to indoctrinate the kids of others.

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Palacedogs
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:38am
I think this a great idea, however there must be a clause set into place. Wherein every turd child who is turned in must be accompanied by ten adult turks as well. It matters not if they have a life wherever they are, its most likely a life of thievery and scamming the Gov’t like turkish parasites do. After all, when was the last time you ever heard of a Turk being famous for something other than slaughter or cutting a priests head off while yelling the stupid catch phrase, Ali Baba and his forty thieves, No, err, I mean, Allan Akabar please call home.Muhammed wants more attention in his north forty region, We all know how turks condemn faggotry yet behind closed doors like nothing better than a good buggering to whomever is close by.

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- kat747
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:47am
  AMEN
  Sadly, what you said is true.
  
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- Elena2010
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 9:58pm
  Sounds as if you’ve been to Germany where the Turks are no longer appreciated since their neighborhoods are the rundown ones and crime lives among them.
  
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UNALIEN
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:32am
Now that we know that Turkey’s Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, uttered anti-Semitic comments similar to those made by Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi, will the media do its best to avoid reporting those, too?

In November 1998, the Institute for Jewish Policy Research released its annual report on current trends in anti-Semitism across the world. In the section for Turkey, the journal quoted the then-mayor of Istanbul, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in June 1997, at a meeting organized by the municipality to celebrate the city’s conquest by the Ottoman Turks, remarking: “The Jews have begun to crush the Muslims of Palestine, in the name of Zionism,” the mayor said, “Today, the image of the Jews is no different from that of the Nazis.”

Erdogan later became, and still is, the Prime Minister of Turkey, a man whom President Obama describes as a personal friend, in a country that is a member of NATO, and head of a government that is regarded as moderate, and, as the London Times recently reflected, an example of how Islamism and democracy do not have to be mutually exclusive.

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HeDied4U
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:23am
I have lived in Turkey and have found it to be a fascinating country as much of the New Testament was written within a 300 mile radius of where I was living. I found the Turkish people to be very friendly and engaging. Also, if you have never had a Turkish haircut I would encourage you to get one. Turks hunger for the truth and many that I had contact with had little to know interest in Islam. The Gospel Message was able to be delivered as there are many seeking truth.

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- woodyee
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:31am
  If they had no interest in Islam, what DID they have an interest in?
  
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- HeDied4U
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:52am
  Many that I came in contact with were interested in the Message of Christ.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:52am
  @woodeye
  If you check the history of Turkey you will discover that many christians have lived there and still do.Turkey is almost fractured in its beliefs.Istanbul at one time was a multi religious city and everyone lived pretty harmoniously.In the last ten years the paradigm has shifted.Once again the muslims reared their head.From what I gather almost all the harmony of religion has dissapeared.The christians are leaving.So too are many of other religious faiths.
  
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- Will-db
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:58am
  ‘If they had no interest in Islam, what DID they have interest in?’
  
  Science, the arts, culture, literature… politics? I haven’t met many Turks but I don’t think any who I have met have been Islamofascists. The last Turkish guy I spoke to was working a hot snack van, and was reading Francis Fukuyama between serving customers sausage egg and bacon sandwiches.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:03am
  So will we soon see contrast pictures like we did in Afghanistan before and after the Islamist take over. The pre-Islamist (1960s-70s?) pictures of Afghanistan made it look like Boston in summer. After it looks like a dirt neolithic caveman colony.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:22am
  Thank you for your responses, folks!
  ;-)
  
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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 2:52pm
  @Cavallo
  
  Those photos are frightening. While helping my grandparent-in-laws move, I found their old National Geographic collection. There was one from about 1972 if I remember correctly, that should a very modern afghanistan. Even the photos of the women showed that they wore pretty standard late-60s, early-70s attire. How far they have fallen.
  
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woodyee
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:22am
How quickly the Spanish forget THEIR history! And for the Turks to group Christians with homosexuals is as offensive as the old Arab habit of grouping Jews and ‘infidels’ with pigs. This will be perplexing to Leftist Libs, who have sooo much in common with Islamo-militants.

“A similar adoption debate is playing out in Spain which has agreed to a Moroccan demand that Spanish families who adopt Moroccan children will maintain the child’s Muslim religious and cultural heritage.
Soeren Kern of the Gatestone Institute reported Wednesday: “The agreement obliges the Spanish government to establish a ‘control mechanism’ that would enable Moroccan religious authorities to monitor the children until they reach the age of 18 to ensure they have not converted to Christianity.”

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- Will-db
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:50am
  In what sense do leftist libs have loads in common with islamo-fascists?
  
  NONE.
  
  Such comments are pure projection!
  
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- Will-db
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:54am
  … Suppose this was an american politician objecting to the placement of white american kids with muslims and homosexuals. How would you feel about that? Would you object to lumping muslims and homosexuals together, or would you see either groups as ‘equally undesirable’?
  
  Yet muslims are even more anti-gay than you guys are.
  
  Two religions, same bigotry.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:00am
  I’m not a liberal so I get it.No they didn’t learn from the past.They are now using minor children as the excuse for further inroads,nothing new really.The only thing new is that they are publicly staing it.
  Off topic in a sense but worth noting.Here in america they could take a child use a closed style adoption yet the state still had the right to act as a gaurdian for the purposes of inheritance from the biological parent.The same one they used as a human incubator.See a problem with it?I know for a fact that I do.This may have been how they got in the door there as well.The closed style adoption was done away with in 1994 here in VA.Other states in different years.
  
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- Southerner01
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:10am
  Sounds like an agreement to ensure that Spanish families don’t adopt Moroccan children. Guess they’d rather have them grow up damaged in orphanages.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:47am
  @Will-DB – God is worthless and to be mocked, unlike Mohammed and the Leftist/Liberal god, Man, which is worshiped to no end.
  
  Madrassah’s are NOT unlike our school, where our (conservative, Judeo-Christian, FOUNDING) values are demeaned in favor of the godless values of the Left, by any means necessary. Your children are NOT taught, but rather indoctrinated; they are INTIMIDATED (instilling hoplophobia is a recent and glaring example).
  
  The past in our Country, is being erased by not teaching it, or rewriting history, much like the Taliban erased much of their past in Afghanistan by means of physical destruction of idols and statues, art and music, and replaced with Taliban indoctrination. The meaning of separation of Church and State is being redefined to mean separation of Church FROM State.
  
  To Leftist/Liberals, the State is EVERYTHING, even if it means superseding law by fiat and judicial corruption, much like Islamo-facists want Sharia law to supersede EVERYTHING else.
  
  With EVERYTHING Islamo-fascist, if you do not comply you pay a fine, lose all rights, are jailed, or are killed. With Leftist/Liberals, if you don’t agree you’re ostracized; in some States you pay fines for exercising your Constitutional Rights, if not jailed outright. To compromise with the Left, you MUST agree with the Left.
  
  To achieve this, our young must be indoctrinated, the old disarmed. I could go on…
  
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Fubared
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:13am
Could not give a crap. Here is a piece for the bots among us. Very real, very now. Screw turkey.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/ron-paul-trade-war-economic-collapse-coming/

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Walkabout
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:09am
3rd World Values are better than Western Values

YourSensei/Glennda/PantLoadin/Wango says

it is so

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- Southerner01
  Posted on February 20, 2013 at 11:13am
  Our president seems to think so as well.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on February 20, 2013 at 10:07am
What a radical idea, “he or she should be placed with a family closer to his or her culture,” Üstün said.” No more having to put velcro-hook on the ceiling of the foster/adoptee home nursery.

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