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Laura Bush Asks to Be Removed From Pro-Gay Marriage Ad
Former U.S. First Lady Laura Bush on February 4, 2013. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
News of a pro-gay marriage ad featuring prominent Republicans has certainly sparked intrigue — but so has former First Lady Laura Bush’s request to be removed from the spot.
As TheBlaze reported on Wednesday, Bush is shown along with former Vice President Dick Cheney and former Sec. of State Colin Powell, with all three voicing support for same-sex couples in a TV spot for The Respect for Marriage Coalition. The comments that each made were not tied directly to the group and were derived from past media appearances.
Shortly after the ad gained attention in popular media, Bush’s representatives requested that her name and likeness be removed. Unlike other ads that use spokespeople to drive a message home, the coalition responsible for assembling this video pieced together media appearances featuring Bush, Cheney and Powell.
The clip featuring the former first lady was filmed during a 2010 interview with CNN.
On Wednesday, Anne MacDonald, a spokeswoman for Bush, confirmed that she had not authorized her inclusion in the Respect for Marriage Coalition ad and that the former first lady has no association with the organization.
“When she became aware of the advertisement last night, we requested that the group remove her from it,” MacDonald said in a release.
In the 2010 clip, Bush can be seen pushing for debate on the issue of same-sex marriage and seemingly calling into question the restrictions currently placed on the rights of gay couples.
“I think that we ought to definitely look at it and debate it,” Bush said at the time. “I think there are a lot of people who have trouble coming to terms with that because they see marriage as traditionally between a man and a woman, but I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has.”
So far, the organization hasn’t complied, however the request has led some, like The Atlantic, to question Bush’s reasoning for not wanting to be included in the ad. Cheney and Powell have not yet officially responded.
Watch the spot in question, below:
What do you think of Bush’s decision? Let us know in the comments section.
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Nabuquduriuzhur
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:56pmHaving lived among that particular group in more than one city, I can tell you the entire matter is not about rights.
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Oddly enough, it comes down to conscience. That little voice inside you that tells you when you do something wrong. It drives them nuts because they know something is wrong and they really hope its not them. It gives them no rest, it’s always at the back of the mind. They are to be pitied. It would be hell knowing what you do is wrong, that knowledge doesn’t go away, and because it won’t go away, it hurts you inwardly.
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Because of that, they normally seek acceptance at first. The anacronym gay “good as you” comes from that. Look at the idea of gay marriage. Initially it was a plea for acceptance. The current idea of marriage in a group wherein most of its members engage in extreme promiscuity is not a bid for equality. It’s a bid for “you must love what I do.” Equality under the laws was reached back in the 1980s for them, with such devices as power of attorney, designation of successors, etc. They have no actual need for it under the law and their lifestyle, as shown in Europe where gay marriage is legal indicates that such marriages break up very quickly as a general rule. Once is a while there is the couple that is for ten or twenty or more years, but that is only a very small minority.
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In recent years, it’s gotten ugly. Many have gotten frustrated and angry. They feel trapped: I’ve never met a gay/lesbian that didn’t have some even
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Paroikos
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:30pmExactly, that is why the headline would be clearer if another hyphen were put in the adjective “pro-gay marriage?”
The ad is a pro-gay-marriage ad. As such, it is inherently anti-gay-person. It is anti-gay-person to redefine marriage to accommodate body degrading behavior. The truly pro-gay-person-marriage ads recognize the fact that true marriage is uniquely man-woman. When a so-called gay person sees that ad, that person will not be lulled into accepting the left’s apathetic refusal to advocate for cures.
Plus, we need an accurate replacement for the word “gay.” The word “gay” itself is anti-“gay”-person. Do “gay” persons actually exit as the left defines them? No. The left deludes. People who define themselves as “gay” report counter-biological urges. Do those wrong urges create a new class of persons equivalent to “race”? No.
Here is a suggestion to redefine the adjective “gay.” Instead of “good as you”, it means “genitalia abuse yearning” sadly. Replacements for the word “gay” could be “counter-biological,” “body-degrading,” and “duped-by-the-left.”
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:37pmparaikos… unnatural? counter biological urges? really? homosexuality is present in literally hundreds of different species. also marriage doesn’t need to be redefined.. we just need to include everyone..
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Paroikos
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:23pmHi KeatonC333,
Yes, many species are afflicted by diseases. Let’s kindly find cures.
Each person is either male or female. Thus, each person is included. Counter-biological urges don’t define classes. Let’s cure those urges.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:45pmI agree, we need to find cures for the debauched and edge rate members of society. Like left-handed people, it those with brown eyes. We need to find a cure for them.
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Paroikos
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:05pmHi HarryPotter,
Please consider self-evident truth to determine what should be cured. Self-evident truth tells us that eye color and handedness do *not* misuse body parts.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:18pmAnd what about being gay is a misuse of body parts? What I do privately may seem weird to you, but I’m sure what you do privately would seem weird to me. If you want to argue about God’s design, how do you know he didn’t design the human body to allow for multiple forms of intercourse?
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Paroikos
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:49pm“…how do you know he didn’t design the human body to allow for multiple forms of intercourse?”
Certain truths are self-evident.
Have you categorized yourself as “gay”? If so, please don’t let yourself become deluded or remain deluded by the left.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 10:02pm“Certain truths are self-evident”. The clear response of someone who cannot verify their claim, but is too stubborn to think critically and consider the opposing side. The self-evident truth is that all people are born equal, and being gay is no different than being straight. We can have children, have families, and we will be able to get married. We can do everything straight people can. You can accept this, or choose to remain bigoted as the rest of the nation moves toward equality.
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SimpleMan03
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 10:04pmHarrypotter, Romans 1:26-27 is pretty cut and dry.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 10:24pmSimple:
Actually, it is not cut and dry. These verses in no way specify what the men and women are doing. I would say that Leviticus 13:47-52 is much clearer.
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Paroikos
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 10:38pmHarryPotter,
SimpleMan is correct. Romans 1:26-27 says, “For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error.”
Please think critically about self-evident truth. It clearly tells us that we are created male and female. No doubt, a finite element analysis of human body parts will tell us what uses are within design limits. Certain parts are obviously designed for each other. Other parts are self-evidently designed as a septic system. An abuse of that system is a vector for viruses, like HIV. Each part’s natural function is clear.
Please stop pretending that you are in some fictitious category. Are you bigoted against kleptomaniacs because you know that stealing is wrong? No. We should find a cure for kleptomania. It would be cruel to pretend that their condition is normal. The real bigots are the pandering politicians denying the truth.
Let’s kindly find cures.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 10:55pmParoikos:
First of all, please see my last comment regarding that verse from Romans. It is anything but clear, and who knows what the original text said, or what the author originally meant? Besides, specific Bible verses mean very little to me as it was all written by man, an is therefore not infallible. I follow the message of the whole (love) rather than trying to find obscure verses to support my bigotry.
As for the design of our bodies. It seems pretty self-evident to me that the penis was meant to fit into the anus, the mouth, and the ******. It fits into all three just fine, and all three result in pleasure. Also, all three can result in the contraction of HIV and other diseases. Just because you prefer one orifice over another does not make it any more natural.
As for bigotry, please look up the definition. It is the stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed belief or opinion different from your own. I could get along just fine with a kleptomaniac, I would only have an issue if he stole something of mine or someone I knew. Actually, I would have a problem if I knew he had stolen from anyone, as that would be harming another person. How have gay people harmed you or anyone else? That is how I make my distinctions. You say gays need to be cured, why not left- handed people or Christians for that matter? Please think about this logically and you will fin that there is no real argument against homosexuality.
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Paroikos
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:03amHarryPotter,
Romans might be clearer to you if you were to read those verses in context. By saying that you follow the overall message of love, are you saying that you believe John 3:16? That verse speaks of God’s love.
Natural use depends on intended design. It is unnatural to contaminate much cleaner parts with much dirtier ones. It is unnatural to treat one-way parts as two-way parts. Proctologists likely agree. Doesn’t the likelihood of HIV transmission increase for unnatural acts? Plus, only the natural act might result in pregnancy.
The definition of bigotry speaks of prejudice and hatred. The pandering politicians are being hateful toward “gays” because they are not advocating for cures. Imagine if politicians pandered to kleptomaniacs by refusing to acknowledge the truth and refusing to advocate for cures. Those politicians’ actions would be hateful. Do not kleptomaniacs deserve to be told the truth? In the same way, “gays” deserve to be told the truth.
“How have gay people harmed you or anyone else?” First, “gay people” is a false category. It causes self-categorized “gays” to think of their condition as equivalent to eye color. It isn’t. For some, their condition is reportedly similar to kleptomania. They report having overwhelming urges—like a kleptomaniac’s urge to steal. Not all thieves are kleptomaniacs. They choose that lifestyle. Similarly, for a lack of better terms, not all “body degraders” are “homomaniacs.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:14amAre you as stupid as that post?
I do not think it’s possible.
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Blammo
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:21amHarryPotter-
I guess it’s safe to assume you think you were born that way?
(Comparing yourself to a left-handed person.)
What does that mean? Born that way? Are you a woman inside a man’s body or a man inside a woman’s body? Or a lesbian inside a man’s body? But then you would be attracted to women also, right? If you are a woman in a man’s body and you are attracted to another woman in a man’s body, doesn’t that make you lesbians? Why can’t you be attracted to a man in a woman’s body? It must be physical. It has to be. Otherwise you would have to be attracted to a heterosexual male or a man in a woman’s body. If you are a woman you should be attracted to a man. If you are a man you should be attracted to a woman.
I hope my questions don’t hurt anybody’s feeeeeeeeeelings. I wouldn’t want my thoughts to be soooooo offensive they have to delete my posts again. Bunch of turd snappers!!!!
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Obama Been Lauding
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:22amWhat happened to the defining term “queer”?
It seems the homosexual community wants a term that defines them in terms other than what they should be termed.
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Obama Been Lauding
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:29amWhat ever happened to the term “queer”?
It seems the homosexuals want a term that sheds a light on them as normal, but everone knows they are not normal.
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Azzman
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:42am@ Harrypotter – the misuse of body parts leads to the spread of disease. Surely you have seen the CDC stats on gay men as it regards to HIV, Hep A B C D E, anal cancers, suicide… All of the diseases hit the homosexual population harder then the population in general. Please don’t be so naive.
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mycomet123
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 9:50amIt’s amazing that according to polls 3% of the American population is gay, yet it’s the main topic in American culture. This is a demonic agenda that the culture wants christains to kneel down to, under the false agenda of tolerance. What they are truly seeking is approval to suppress their guilt & further destroy this country!
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 10:42amKEATON says, “homosexuality is present in literally hundreds of different species.”
Everybody watch me blow this guy up…..
Alright KEATON, beside the fact the biologists will tell you that animals do this as sign of dominance not sexual desire, you said hundreds of species…. ok, name the first one hundred. I’ll be waiting.
You see kids, it’s that easy!
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Granny58
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:50amyour post gives me a lot to think about, I appreciate it very much. It certainly rings true iMHO. And you expressed very well the lack of legal need for “gay marriage,” in a way that I’ve been trying to say for years. I’ve told friends and family, if the issue is who gets to visit you in the hospital, change hospital rules…not the meaning of marriage!
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:18pm@Paroikos & Simpleman
Luckily for everyone, the bible is just a book written by barbaric bronze age people 2000 years ago and has no bearing on how we treat other members of the human race anymore.
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SimpleMan03
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:23pmHarry Potter,
Just because something brings pleasure, does not make it a natural, good thing. Keep reading Romans 1 until the end of the chapter (KJV). Also, I have a hard time in believing it is logical to think a body part meant to discard waste, is meant for anything but that. Most of us drink from a water pipe, not a sewage pipe.
Saying these things doesn’t make someone a bigot. We are simply referring to the Word of God. In all actuality, you aren’t accusing the messenger as a bigoted, but the author of the source we are citing.
BTW – the Bible was written by inspired men. 2 Timthy 3:16
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:42pmParoikos:
You are still missing my point, and still bringing up the tired arguments that made no sense the first time. I have read the Roman verses in context, and the context of the Bible is love. That is the message of the Bible I think you are missing. And all sex is dirty when you think about is. “Normal” sex is a man sticking the appendage he urinates from into the hole that a woman bleeds from monthly. Sounds pretty unsanitary to me. And I guess all sex is unnatural, because if you had no sex at all, the chance of catching HIV and other diseases would drop to the floor. And if only “natural acts” result in pregnancy, what about infertile couples? Or elderly couples? Are they unnatural?
You keep trying to claim that gays are like kleptomaniacs and need to be cured, but you have not said why. People who steal are actively harming other people. That is why stealing is not allowed. How is two men expressing their love physically for one another harming anyone? It seems to be because you just don’t like it, or this “self-evident truth” you have mentioned. There was a time was it was self-evident that African Americans were subservient to whites and needed and deserved to be enslaved. There was a time when it was self-evident that the Jews were responsible for all the wrongs in the world, and had to be killed. Be careful how you judge. If you can’t back up these truths with logic and reason, they are not truths.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:53pmBlammo:
Yes, I was born gay. You seem to be confusing homosexuality with being transgendered. Transgendered people were born as one gender, but have the body parts of the opposite gender. Homosexuals are people attracted to the same gender as themselves. So I am a man, and I am attracted to other men. I have no desire to be a woman. And I first began to notice my sexual orientation around puberty, when I realized that I was attracted to men and not women, but looking back, there were earlier signs that I would be gay.
Obama:
Some in the LGBT community identify as Queer. We only identify ourselves with the term that fits our orientation. I think you are seeking a term to make us sound unnatural.
Azzman:
Yes, some diseases are more prevalent in the gay community. Others are more prevalent in the straight community. This proves absolutely nothing. All sex can transmit disease, so if you are that concerned you should advocate to ban sex altogether, and just create babies in labs.
Comet:
Which polls? I have seen polls claim numbers as high as 15-20% to be gay. The point is that you cannot tell if someone is gay unless they tell you, and thanks to people like the commenters on here, many people are still afraid to admit who they are.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:07pmSquid:
Here are the animals that exhibit same-sex relations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
And I have not heard any biologist claim that all this is due solely to behavioral dominance. Besides, it seems to me that in the animal kingdom that all sex is a form of dominance. But none of this really matters because we are not animals. We have the capacity for higher thinking, and have a greater awareness of the world. We cannot be measured by the same standards.
Granny:
The meaning of marriage has been changing since it first came about. Marriage was once a legal purchase of a woman from her parents family. It has also been a political tool to show unity among rival clans and a source to provide legitmacy to children. None of these are accurate in modern times.
Simple:
I could say that a woman’s lower hole is a sewage pipe as well, look what comes out once a month! Besides, that cavity is meant to push out babies, it is an exit, not an entrance! I have also read all of Romans, and indeed the whole Bible, and I am still not convinced that the Bible is anti-gay. Besides, the Bible was written by man. Even if it was inspired by God, man held the pen so it is his word, not Gods. The words are not exact, and undoubtedly hold the biases and politics of each of the writers. Man’s word, not God’s word.
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Chadfelixgreene
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:01pmThe “marriage should include everyone” argument destroys marriage as a unique experience and lifestyle choice. Marriage is not a union of people who love each other, it is a specific social commitment. To change the very concept of a man and a woman means any person, persons or things who can be defined as loving one another can be included and then it becomes little more than a driver’s lisense.
It has nothing to do with how you feel about gay people, its just logical. Removing the gender rule means removing the number of participants, their ages, their other legal statuses and why stop at those things? Its an actual slippery slope argument.
Gays already have all the available rights married people have. There is no “marriage equality” involved. This is redefining the entire concept and its perfectly ok for people to be opposed to such an action.
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Jadedfate
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:47pmI find it funny that someone calling themselves Harry Potter is so idiotically anti gay, when one of the main characters from the books was gay, as stated by the author. Uh oh…better stop reading those demon books before they infect you!!!
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Jadedfate
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:50pmMy appologies, HarryPotter, got your comments mixed up with someone else. You’re not the idiot..the people arguing with you are! Sorry bout that!
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:30pmChad:
As I’ve said before, marriage has been constantly changing as long as it has been around. And FYI, a slippery slope argument is known as a fallacy, and is never accepted as a valid argument. But to your point, how can someone marry a toaster, or a llama? Marriage requires two people entering into a legal agreement. Inanimate objects cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. We have a legal age because we know that children’s minds have not fully matured and they do not always understand the consequences of their choices and actions. So children cannot consent. As for multiple people marrying, who cares? The only peoblem is that the federal benefits would have to be clearer if more than two people were involved. Like if a man married two women and then died, what relationship do the women now have? These are the situations that need to be thought out before polygamy can be allowed. And no, we do not have the same rights. If I have a life partner I have been with for 20 years, I get nothing. If you meet a hot chick in Vegas, you can get married on the spot. If you are worried about losing the meaning of marriage, look to the Hollywood types who measure their marriages in months or days. And also, marriage is only 1 right that you get but we do not. There are dozens more. In my state I can be fired just because I am gay, legally. These are the things we want to change. Moving towards equality.
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mycomet123
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:34pmI will never buy into the LIE that people are born gay. It is a choice! Just as I will never say I was born a christian. I am a christian by choice, & as a christian I have to believe what God calls a sin– is a sin. If it was personnally my own decision, people can sleep with any person, animal or whatever-makes them happy. But it’s not my world. I believe God created humanity & it’s God’s call how He wants to rule the world, not mine. The Bible clearly states that homosexuality/lesbianism is a SIN! I will not compromise my beliefs under the pretext of tolerance. If you are gay & reading this I want to let you know that I love you enough to tell you what I believe to be the Truth. Hate me if you want but I will never hate you!
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:48pmComet:
I am gay and I do not hate you. I pity you. You are so blind to the world and choose to remain that way, swallowing the bigotry and irrational hatred of those around you. Let me ask you this, if you can really choose your sexual orientation, when did you choose to be straight? Can you remember the specific date and time? Or have you always had an attraction to the opposite sex that was internal and uncontrollable? If you truly believe it is a choice, then I challenge you to choose to be gay for a day. I’m not telling you to go have sex, I’m saying spent the whole day attracted to your same gender. Call it a science experiment. Maybe you will finally discover what the rest of us already know, you get no choice in your sexual orientation.
As for the Bible, please look toward my earlier comments to see the reality of the issue. Sure, there are a couple obscure verses which seem to be against homosexuality, but there are also verses against eating shellfish and wearing nylon. That is why you need to look at the whole message and not try to find individual verses to support your bigotry. The message is love. You are missing the forest for the trees here.
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Granny58
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:24pm@ Harry Potter: Granny: The meaning of marriage has been changing since it first came about. Marriage was once a legal purchase of a woman from her parents family. It has also been a political tool to show unity among rival clans and a source to provide legitmacy to children. None of these are accurate in modern times.”
But it’s always been man/woman as that’s the normal understood meaning.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 6:14pmGranny:
No, that’s YOUR understood meaning. To me, and over half of this country, gender is of no concern. Besides, like I said before, there was a time when the understood meaning if marriage was a middle aged man to purchase a teenage wife from her parents with gold and livestock. That was the “understood meaning” for quite some time. Today, the term marriage has continued to change to include gay couples as well.
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nnelgkceb
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 4:14amSquidVetOhio writes:
KEATON says, “homosexuality is present in literally hundreds of different species.”
Everybody watch me blow this guy up…..
Alright KEATON, beside the fact the biologists will tell you that animals do this as sign of dominance not sexual desire, you said hundreds of species…. ok, name the first one hundred. I’ll be waiting.
You see kids, it’s that easy!
You seem quite impressed with yourself SquidVetOhio. There’s really no need to be. BTW, what did you mean by “blow up?” That the answer would have to be posted in multiple comments due to the character limit?
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Tengger Desert Toad
Ten-spined stickleback
Three-spined stickleback
Tsetse Fly
Water Boatman Bug
Water Moccasin
Water Strider
Western Banded Gecko
Western rattlesnake
Whiptail Lizard
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nnelgkceb
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 4:47amNabuquduriuzhur, it’s hard to tell whether you’re ill informed, intentionally lying, projecting, or some combination of the three.
First, that little voice thing… That one I do think you’re projecting about. You can’t think outside of your own conditioning. It’s like an Orthodox Jew claiming Christians are being driven nuts and losing sleep because they eat pork and shellfish even though they know it’s wrong. Just because you’ve arbitrarily decided that some innocuous things are wrong you shouldn’t assume that everyone has. Gays and lesbians sleep just fine.
Second, no one is seeking acceptance (other than from people they actually know). What gays and lesbians are seeking is equal protection under the law. Which brings me to three.
Third, it’s difficult for me to believe that you aren’t lying about the lack of need for marriage. You present falsehoods as if they are fact; that all it takes is a trip to an attorney and one, two, three, “poof!” equality is achieved. There have been countless stories in the press about how this isn’t true. A couple of more obvious examples of how this is false are that the paperwork you described is meaningless when it comes to things like Social Security benefits and immigration sponsorship.
Finally, as to people getting angry and frustrated… Gee I wonder why people who lack equal rights while being citizens of country that markets itself as a bastion of freedom and fairness might feel angr
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triplejaymom
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 10:26amSimpleMan, You are RIGHT ON with the Romans scripture…
Harry Potter, if it is “natural”, what is to stop the pedophile from defending his urges toward young children as being “natural”? What about the thief’s urge to steal? Or the murderer’s urge to kill? Are they all as right as you are? All sin comes from an urge somewhere within us. This doesn’t mean it’s right or acceptable…The Romans scripture clearly points out that homosexuality is actually a PUNISHMENT for a disregard for God and his laws. God gives them over to that distorted way of thinking, so of course they think it is natural….This not to say that we don’t care about homosexuals. We certainly do not hate. But we believe all sin is wrong. We hope for a day when God makes Himself known to all, just as He revealed my need for a Savior to me. Even the apostle Paul called himself the chief of all sinners, as his former job was murdering Christians. There is forgiveness for all who will receive it when God draws them to Himself.
Paroikos and Simpleman, your comments are spot on and very well thought out. A lost person thinks like a lost person and will not see the Truth of scripture since it is foolishness to those who are perishing. There is no convincing unless the Spirit does the work. Hopefully their eyes will be opened one day and the words read hear will resonate. Blessings!
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mycomet123
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 2:45pm@HARRYPOTTER, Anything that you can control is a CHOICE. If I use your reasoning you could also justify pediophiles as a choice lifestyle, along with beastiality. Homosexuality/lesbianism goes against the natural order of creation. It is a sexual perversion & I know your going to not believe this, but it is caused by a unclean spirit of lust known as Jezebel. There are many unclean spirits which prey on individuals especially teenagers because they are more emotional, which makes them more vulnerable. I do not deny your feelings of being more attracted to the same sex. It is a battle as are other addictions. You quote the old testament about not eating shellfish, well in the old testament man was under the law & not under grace. You might want to read about Sodom (where the word sodomy originated from) & Gomorrah, which God destroyed because of their sexual perversion, Genesis 19:1-28. Again, in the old testament they were living under the law, & that is why in Matthew 10:15 Jesus states that it will be more tolerable for Sodom in the final judgment than for people living under the new testament because you have GRACE to overcome the temptations. Pity me if you want I’m just telling you what I believe is the Truth. I know of at least one group in New York( & I’m sure there are other ones throughout the conuntry) which deals with homosexuals & helping them overcome their lifestyle. I know you think I’m some insane “christian”, I still wish you all the best! God B
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The-Right-Rider
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 3:11pm@HARRYPOTTER
Your arguments about animals being homosexual because they exhibit homosexual tendencies is as flawed as your argument about homosexuality being a natural tendency of the human race.
It is the equivalent of saying that nuclear radiation in the ukraine is natural simply because it can be found there, or a body found in the woods is natural simply because plant life is growing on it.
Your statement ignores the fact that:
1: ex homosexuals exist and have successfully refrained from repeating their past lifestyle CHOICE. (PFOX)
2: the animals that you speak of are likely suffering from the ramifications of environmental pollution which has wrecked havoc on their endocrinal systems, as well as their reproductive abilities. You simpy need to google “frogs changing sexes” to see the effects of pollution on an animal’s habitat.
And just to inform you further, here’s a nice piece of research indicating that mercury IS making birds gay..not “if” not “maybe” IF.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/12/101203-homosexual-birds-mercury-science/
You simply want to believe that it is natural in order to justify being active in its consequences.
your research is nonexistent, therefore your musings are illinformed and your conclusions are therefore flawed.
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cmsdrizzt
Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:02pmnnelgkceb-Your **** animal listing is quite a feat of accomplishment. Unfortunately if you took a moment to look at the data without your blinders on you would see that in a majority of cases this **** behavior was induced and not found in the wild. Many insects showed much more **** behavior. I would attribute that to the fact they do not have the same faculties more developed species have and they try to reproduce with anything. If you want to compare **** behavior with insects I would agree with you. It is behavior with no thought behind it other than selfish need. I won’t go into the details because you don’t care to know the truth. But take a moment and look up penguins and lions which you use as examples. Try to use more than one source. You will find no wild observations of Penguin homosexuality, only NYC Zoo observations and coaching. Then if you are still not satisfied take a look at lions. It is about dominance in the wild which I would equate to RAPE not homosexuality. You can equate the two if you desire. Other so called examples of lion homosexuality are all under human forced situations. Let’s finish this discussion with DOGS. I am 45 and have owned 2-4 dogs all my life, I hang out with dog owners. I have never seen an example of dog homosexuality. I have seen male dogs hump my leg. I surely wouldn’t call that homosexuality. So unless you are willing to call homosexuality mindless behavior. You may have to admit it isn’t in the animal worl
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YouKnowThatsRight
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:47amKEATON says, “homosexuality is present in literally hundreds of different species.”
I’ve seen a duck try to hump a chicken. Why not make marriage between different species? There’s a lot of incest in the animal kingdom too. Should we allow incest marriage? Chickens have eaten their own eggs. Should women who don’t want their unborn child eat it? When children are taught that they are part the animal kingdom, why should we be surprised. Marriage will always be between a man and a woman. You can call 2 men together a marriage, but it’s like calling a bookshelf a lamp. It’s not possible to redefine. “‘Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.’—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV) …indicate that homosexual passions and acts are unnatural, shameful, contrary to sound doctrine and deny entrance to the Kingdom of God. This being so they cannot be the basis of a Christian marriage sanctioned by God’s Church. The Church exists to save people, not to bless the means of their damnation. No marriage can be sanctioned by the Church if the very basis of the marriage involves acts that put the couple outside of eternal salvation. No matter what our society may legislate, the law of God is clear” http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/ed
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Atikokan
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:55pmBarry doesn’t care about gays they all just use them for their vote and support. When the NWO dictator arrives they will kill these people first. They will be put in the same catergory as mental ill, disabled and elderly etc
Carl Marx said that if a person consumes more than they produce or if they are a miss fit to society they need to be elimanted. They are all just being used!
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crazyrightwingmom
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:35pmShe wanted to DEBATE. They used her.
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uncle_blazer
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:12pmThe only reason to oppose gay marriage anymore is to be a d-bag.
There is no sanctity in marriage, it was first made to make treaties in medieval times.
And if you believe in christian mythology anymore, then why do you care? It doesn’t effect you in any way. It must be because you’re all old, afraid of change.
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crazyrightwingmom
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:38pmMarriage has contributed to the stability of the world, the caring constant rearing of children who thereby have more “normal” outlooks on life, and the teaching of commitment to silly adolescents. Now we have all become silly adolescents.
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barber2
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:49pmUNCLE BLAZER: And what name did you use here before you took this one today ?
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:31pmFish, I rest my case. You tried for Rapprochement with UcaAZ, but he blew you off with a sarcastic flame because you NAILED his REAL agenda, PUSHING pervness in the faces of the rest of us.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:32pmcould not agree more uncle… What it comes down to is a group of bigots using religion to continue denying gay people rights.. I mean yes it says a man shall not lay with another man in the old testament… It also says not to eat pork, get divorced, get remarried, etc etc… but no one cares about that because it effects them! As long as it only effects gays, which they don’t like in the first place, they will continue to parade out their bible and make a mockery of the whole book. but until one of these people stone their child for being stubborn i am not buying it.. Its sad, hypocritical and its disrespectful to christianity.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:18pmKEYTONE you a HOOT as a Theologian, even funnier as a Exegete.
So are you arguing that if we let even one J waker go we shouldn’t execute mass murderers?
At bottom, Khole, your Faux Moral equivalences are just too FUNNY!
Fact is the Christian Texts describe Homosex as a kind of Debauched, Depraved and Degenerate IDOLATRY, pretty much in the same overall context when it also says all the Food issues are no longer a big deal. Now if YOU want to say the Two are Morally equivalent, go ahead, but I leave it to the Unbiased Objective Observer to Determine if that makes you seem like a FOOL and calls your whole handling of the Biblical Material into ridicule.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:22pmSince KYTon has showed up to vent, I’ll repeat my Premises.
1. It ain’t about “equal rights” it’s about Shutting up anybody who hollars “PERV!”.
2, The Christian Scriptures call Homosex a Debauched, Depraved, and Degenerate Idolatry.
They call the “food issues” no big deal. The Prhomos can attempt a Faux Moral equivalence if they want but it is BAD Exegesis based on BAD Hermeneutic and it is Laughable on its Face.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:55pmBig mick:
It is about equality, because straight people are still afforded many rights not afforded to gays. Marriage is only one of these. We do not rub your noses in our gay was anymore than you rub our noses in your straightness. You are the one actively seeking out stories like this to get offended by. You can say whatever you want about the scriptures, but not only are you misquoting them and entirely missing the main point about loving your neighbor, you seem to forget that not everyone believes in God, Christianity and the Bible.
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tootsie roll
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:02pmNot ol NOT afraid just do not want to live with perverts as “NORMAL” because they are Not and if it the shoe fits wear it
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Azzman
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:46amhttp://www.firstthings.com/article/2013/02/homosexual-marriage-parenting-and-adoption
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:50pmShe shouldn’t have been part of it in the first place.
The hetrophobes can pound sand.
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NavET-SS
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:01pmI was just thinking that hetero-phobe is a good term to apply to the LGBT crowd. Except maybe they really should fear us, not have an irrational fear of us.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:34pmYa those heterophobes and their continuous pleas for equal rights! How dare they put us straight people through that! can’t we just deny their basic civil rights in peace!
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:18amMost gays have never murdered anyone with their car
because they were too busy yakking with another passenger,
AND GOT AWAY WITH IT
because of political connections.
Laura is foul indeed.
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STANGUNN
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:43pmYou can have it both ways.
The bible is plain spoken about same sex relationships ..
Why, other than money ,do they want to be married .
It’s not to be right with god at least as defined in the bible .
By the way i heard the military is now giving same sex couples benefits that are living together but not men and women living together ?
Seems like a double standard to me .
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:48pmYes, the Bible is just as clear about homosexuality as it is about eating shellfish and wearing nylon.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:39pmHairyPottyboy, yeah, it says the last two are “no nos”, the first is a Debauched Depraved and Degenerate Idolatry. You want to attempt to draw a Moral Equivalence have at it.
Just makes you look like a moron.
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Eastinfection
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:42pmThe Lesbians won’t be happy unless Bush is in the ad.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:39pmBig mick:
Please provide sources, or you are just talking out of you rear end. The Bible speaks of all of those in the same manner, and in the same book.
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Locked
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 10:25amEastinfection wins the best comment of the day! Thanks for the laugh! :-)
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katzkiner
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:31pmThe cure for homosexuality=HIV.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:47pmYou do realize that there are far more straight people with HIV than gay people, right?
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:04pmCite your source fuzzypothead. You may indeed be correct, just by sheer numbers alone. It is ok if you are gay, if that is what you want and all. Be gay in your gayness and welcome to the cair tent.
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Dano.50
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:14pmHarryPotter
You’re using typical lib reasoning.
The more accurate stat question would be, “What percentage of straight people, who have never had sex with anybody other than like minded individuals, have HIV, compared to the percentage of gay people who have had sex with like minded, or bisexual, people?”
By your reasoning, if 99% of the people are straight, then you have 99 times the sample group to acquire numbers from.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:41pmHairyPotty. You DO know that the QueerCommunity is at MUCH HIGHER RISK, right?
You ARE aware of the concept of “disproportionality” right?
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CafeConservative
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:19pm“Gay and bisexual men are more severely affected by HIV than any other group in the United States (US).”
“Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections, and MSM with a history of injection drug use (MSM-IDU) accounted for an additional 3% of new infections. That same year, young MSM accounted for 69% of new HIV infections among persons aged 13–29 and 44% of infections among all MSM. At the end of 2009, an estimated 441,669 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the US were MSM or MSM-IDU.”
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:03pmYou are all correct, HIV is more easily passed through anal intercourse. So yes, gay men are more likely to contract the disease. But what does this mean? Is this God’s wrath upon gay people? Then why would he let so many straight people contract it? And does this mean that breast cancer is his wrath upon women? Or that chicken pix is God’s wrath upon children for their debauchery? Or perhaps I should argue that all men are wicked because men constitute a much higher percentage of rapists. HIV is a medical and scientific issue. When you try to mix science and religion, you wind up with stupid arguments like these.
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Azzman
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 8:02amHIV, taking care of morally bankrupt persons since 1981.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:10pmLocked:
Just like the ones who are accidentally given the disease through blood transfusions? Or those who are passed the disease in the womb from their parents? Or how about a married partner who contracts it from a cheating spouse? You are truly sick to revel is the suffering of other people.
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HarryPotter
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:35pmSorry, that comment goes to Azzman, not Locked.
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maggiepie
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:27pmBottom line, if she was not asked if she wanted to participate, then her likeness
should not be used.
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tothepoint
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:18pmPowell is a racist whose opinion is unimportant now that he’s shown himself to be a lefty.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:34pmYou are such an idiot!
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toto
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:39pmPowell has shown himself to lack integrity and honor, displayed by his blatantly racist comments and support for Obama ONLY because he is black. How can you get more racist than that? There’s racism in this country, but it is grossly black on white.
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NavET-SS
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:12pmHow about if we just California secede from the union, allow them to create the Queer Democracy of California, with all the taxes and special rules for their ilk. Then in 50 years when they’ve all died from all the problems they bring upon themselves (including inability to procreate), we just bring it back into the US. We’d have to make sure we have a strong fence to keep them out of our lives when they realize how bad it gets.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:28pmThe illegals would cull that herd. Perhaps a gay haven in Dearborn to get it right with allah.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:41pm“let em” He ll. KICK em OUT!
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txblaze
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:12pmAfter reading her quote, it seems she does agree with this coalition. She may as well permit them to use her likeness. You can’t unsay what has already been said.
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13th Imam
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:21pmDebating something means you want to find out more info about it. Not that you agree or disagree.If they wanted her express , up to date opinion, why couldn’t they approach her? DEMOCRAT Press Corp at work.
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txblaze
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:39pm13th: If she would have stopped after mentioning “debate” then I would agree with you. But she then went on to say this “but I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has.” I can see where they thought she was on their side.
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The Big Mick
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:53pmMore Ball less substance less Heifer Methane. They have NO RIGHT to the use of her image or quotes WITHOUT her permission, whatever “the law” says. Only Prhomos would think they had the “right” to push something on everybody without any consideration of what somebody they use actually thought or wanted.
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perry1980
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:09pmGood for you classy lady.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:40pmIn her book she confirms SHE NEVER EVEN APOLOGIZED TO THE FAMILY
of the 17 tear old boy she killed with her car.
You have a really weird definition of classy.
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13th Imam
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:00pmBarry feels terrible for having to murder Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans. Not
He doesn’t give a crap about murdering them, or having millions of Americans lose jobs, or his escalating costs of Obamacare, or Brian Terry’s murder by Eric ‘Gunrunner” Holder’s Fast and Furious debacle.
Yah Jugears feels terrible
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Chromo200
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:21pmVERCEOFREASON .. And you think Ted Kennedy is your hero, or maybe Clinton “the rapist” is one too. Plus you never know if she in person did not apologize to the family. Mrs Bush is a classy person compared to one in the WH now .. Lavish vacations, parties, and rude to people all at the expense of the American people, and big deal that she “shops” at Target.
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Keatonc333
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 7:38pmyou think shed have given up on saving face after still being married to the worst president since hoover.
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chewfatlip
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 9:49pmMooch is married to the worst President ever….
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:04pmGood show, Laura!
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FISH_BONE
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:03pmWhat percentage of the population is a rug muncher or a rump ranger? Why do we spend so much time worrying about such a small percentage of the population? We continually debate the lifestyle choices of a super small percentage. We are giving them exactly what they want: Attention. If I never hear another story about gays again it will be too soon. I simply couldn’t care less about them.
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katzkiner
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:23pmMeanwhile in another part of the “city”, Obama is sending troops to 35 countries in Africa. Endless war-everywhere. Then screw the vets when they are through with them.
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spirited
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:57pmPolitical ads always include, “I’m so-n-so, and I approve this message”.
Even
denture glue,
diarriah gas and bloating,
gold,
and mortgage advertisments
include the famous person’s acknowledgement
of being paid to paticipate in an advertisment,
or
speaking on behalf of what is being promoted.
Question:^>Does the advertisement ‘make’ ~>anyLaura Bush is being used (on several levels) without her permission
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.rjk
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:02pmThe best are every erectile dysfunction advertisement that says beware of erection lasting longer than four hours. like that would not hook line and sinker some guy who has not been able to get it up.
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spirited
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:12pmOops ?
Question:^>Does the advertisement ‘make’ any ~>moneyLaura Bush is being used (on several levels) without her permission
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:49pmIt sounds like her attorneys need to get a cease and desist order against the group if they don’t take it down on her request.
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TRILO
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:19pmSorry, she is a public figure and spoke at a public venue. There is no prohibition against using her words or her picture.
As they always say, be careful what you say in public and when the microphone is off.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:47pmGays have exactly the same rights heterosexuals do. Heterosexual men can’t marry each other either.
It would not be marriage if they tried. The whole ‘gay marriage’ thing is a scam to marginalize gay people needlessly, It’s a hoax to make them feel like lesser people. They can have whatever institution they want, but they can’t redefine and steal, therefore destroy an established Institution. Which is exactly what the whole scam is designed to do. Marginalize, destroy and relegate to history several groups and an Institution all at the same time. Then pit them against each other for political purpose. Alllah alinsky………
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JRook
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:56pm“but I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has.” while I am against the use of the term marriage for same sex couples the report here is at best misleading and Laura Bush’s statement in the CNN interview is clear and positive towards the issue.
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right-wing-waco
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:57pmIt is another divide & conquer by the the most divisive president ever. Black vs White, Gay vs straight, rich vs poor, citizens vs illegal. We are so divided now that anything goes in washington. We need to organize and restore the Constitution, not be divided more.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:02pmRookie you can have a civil/uncivil union whenever you want. Marriage is for procreation. Please don’t leave any Rookie juniors alone in the world with a dumb ass as a parental figure.
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spirited
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:14pmFUB: “Marriage is for procreation”
~>Uhm, ?
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God_Is_Not
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:24pmPlease use some form of critical thinking before making such statements:
“Marriage is for procreation”
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:08pmNot, could you show were gay marriage is anything other than a special interest power grab? Biblical marriage is for a family. Not sara and jane and sven and steve. Not. Not. Not. Cry on over to the town hall and get your civil union crap and pay your civil union dues to the LGBLT union. Sooo very special.
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CWPrequired
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:38pmWhy is there not talk in the media about how many people die from AIDS every year because of man on man sex?
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shimauma
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:48pmOh could be because it’s not politically correct to advertise what a filthy dangerous lifestyle choice sexual deviancy is. The msm isn’t a fan of shining light on the **** licking and canal fisting either because images like that might make people realize how gross it is.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:38pmLaura believes marriage is between one woman and one turd.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:59pmDORAGASBAG: A bitter old ****.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:06pmVersace of Treason prefers two poofters poofing in unison. Pfffffft.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:08pmBTW: The censored word starts with a “D” and rymes with “like”.
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uncle_blazer
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:06pm>Make them realize how gross it is.
Gay people find hetero sex gross too, bro.
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Micmac
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:30pm…but I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has.”
It’s all about semantics and she did not specifically agree with the way the ad portrays her. This is false advertizing. “Same sort” is not a specific.
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amerbur
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:29pmIt is one thing to say you believe gay couples should have equal protection under the law, it is yet another to call it marriage – Cilvil union? perhaps – marriage? – it is not?
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Stoic one
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:18pmThis is not a proper use for news, it is an implied endorsement; which she says is not her belief. TAKE IT DOWN.
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saveamericafromthestupids
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:48pmFirst of all, it is NOT news…its an ad. Her interview with Larry is public, therefore her permission is not required.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:04pmStupid
We can now take your post and apply it to anything on the daily kos in rebuttal of anything Hillara says. Why do they need the hard sale if it is such a just cause? Get cair to endorse it.
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00100111
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:05pmWrong, Save. The interview is not public domain. The footage is property of CNN. This group used footage without anyone’s permission.
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saveamericafromthestupids
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:47pm@111 Even if permission was required from CNN, do you not think an advertising agency doing a million dollar ad buy such as this would not go through the correct channels? I don’t think so.
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nesmond
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:18pmYou shouldn’t say things that will come back to bite you on the a** later on.
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Cavallo
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:17pmQueers don’t care about marriage, they care about being able to use the police power of the State to force you to accept them. Personally I think the State needs to be out the marriage business completely. Let private organizations define marriage, the State shouldn’t be in the business of defining private relationships.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:02pmIndeed.
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God_Is_Not
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:22pmIf you actually believe that government policy is enough to get you to ‘accept’ something then you have a very weak personal character. Just the fact that you fear this possibility implies this is so.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:02pmNot. Not. Go to a public school and sit for a spell. Is this the new wangdang reincarnation or just a dumb ass lib of the day attempt? Eh, piss off either way.
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Looking_Up
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 8:12pmCavallo,
You might be on to something there. Since marriage is a covenant established by God, why does the state need to have anything to say about it? As far as community property is concerned, a pre-nuptual contract would be all the state needs to settle property disputes. In that case it isn’t anyone else’s business how individuals wish to conduct their partnerships so long as they are of an age to sign the contract. It would end the argument of gay marriage, and polygamist marriage. Anyone could have whatever form of relationship they wished, and only the contract would be binding from the state’s point of view. So who cares if a gay couple wants to buy a wedding cake? I am not required by the state to recognize that relationship as marriage. There would be no divorce, all contracts would be settled in advance including visitation, child support, etc. Only God can ratify a marriage, the state needs to stop playing God. Get rid of the Justice of the Peace and marriage license all together.
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ZAP
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:16pmShe realized if everyone was gay,there would be no people left on earth in one generation.
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God_Is_Not
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:07pmIf everyone got into a car accident today and died then there would be no one alive tomorrow. The thought is frightening enough to convince me all vehicles must be banned.
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Verceofreason
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:23amSo when are YOU going gay?
What exactly is going to make EVERYONE gay?
We have a new winner for stupidest post of the day!
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mcsledge
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 3:15pmToo late now. You have played your cards. You have shown that you condone the very acts God detests. Whose side are you on? You are either for God or against God. There is no middle ground. You don’t get to pick and choose which laws you will agree with and which you will oppose.
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God_Is_Not
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 4:14pmActually, you’re wrong. Each of us does get to decide which laws we agree with and which we oppose. Anything else would be fascism.
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Fubared
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:03pmNot, no, you are wrong. Your inability to see otherwise just paints you as the weak kneed lib you must surely be.
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mcsledge
Posted on February 21, 2013 at 6:17pmGod_Is_Not – Let me add a bit of clarity to my comment. You can choose because God has given man agency. However, no one who condones practices that are in opposition to God’s eternal laws will return to His presence. Hell will be full of ‘so-called’ Christians who chose to support some laws while opposing other laws; who claim to believe in Christ while supporting abortions; who claim to love God while supporting homosexuality; who claim to have given their souls to God while fornicating, etc. Christ made this very clear. Straight is the way and narrow is the gate that leadeth to life (eternal) and few there be that find it. (Matt 7)
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