One of liberals’ favorite arguments for the impermanence of the Second Amendment is the argument that, because the prefatory clause of the amendment discusses “a well-regulated militia,” the right to keep and bear arms is only protected in a militia context (read our debunk of that theory here). Now it appears that at least one local official in a deep blue state tried to put that theory to the test and failed. From the Westford Eagle of Westford, Massachusetts:
A gun control debate that was meant to bring discussion to the Town Meeting floor fizzled in Westford last night (Feb. 20) when Selectman Robert Jefferies withdrew his warrant article seeking to amend the town’s firearms bylaw.[...]
An ongoing debate that began in December when Jefferies called for the formation of a militia in town and then filed a bylaw amendment limiting certain firearms and feeding devices, ended tonight with hundreds of Second Amendment supporters filing into the Stony Brook School to voice opposition, dozens from neighboring towns.
But their voices were silenced when Jefferies said he was withdrawing the article.
“This was meant to be a discussion,” he said. “But it’s no longer a discussion.”
The idea to create a militia while simultaneously imposing an assault weapons ban is, one has to admit, novel. However, Jeffries’ attempt to start a discussion eventually crashed down to earth when actual gun rights supporters intervened quite forcefully against him:
Among the complications was how to appease members of the Westford Sportsmen’s Club—many of whom live in other towns and transport their guns over the town line. A violation of the bylaw could have resulted in a fine of $100 for the first offense, $200 for the second, and $300 for the third and subsequent offenses.
There is no doubt that Jefferies’ intent in making the original proposal was to implicate the Second Amendment’s section on a “well regulated militia.” A letter to the editor in the Westford Patch from last month confirms as much:
Westford Selectman Bob Jeffries recently offered a very interesting and provocative idea, when he called for the establishment of a Westford Militia at a recent meeting of the Town’s Board of Selectmen. Responding to concerns raised by the horrid tragedy in Newtown Connecticut, Mr. Jeffries is advancing this idea in the hope of achieving a more consistent application of the “well regulated militia” clause, contained in the Second Amendment. Through this, he hopes to increase control and regulation of weapons owned by residents of the town. This approach is at best redundant. At worst, it could be interpreted by some constitutional purists as “seditious.”[...]
Let’s have the discussion on gun ownership that Mr. Jeffries wants. It is an important one to have. But on the question of a militia, I recommend that we all let sleeping dogs lie. There is only one militia in Massachusetts and that militia has been perpetually on call since 1638 AD.
So along with opposition from gun rights supporters, Jefferies also faced opposition from people with knowledge of the obscure Massachusetts State militia. Such a group of opponents understandably frustrated his goals. Nevertheless, one wonders what Westford, Massachusetts’ militia would have actually looked like, and just how “well regulated” it would have been.
You can watch video of the actual hearing where the motion was withdrawn here:
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Comments (75)
Case_Logic
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:34pmThe liberals are all a flutter in trying to inflame anger and incite violence in their effort to destroy the US Constitution and America. These are the active skirmishes of guerilla warfare waged against the American people. They have not only declared war on us they have started to prosecute it. I only wonder what destructive act either inflicted or implied upon the 2nd Amendment or other by the progressives will set off the violence they so desire.
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dmerwin
Feb. 21, 2013 at 11:52pmDid the minutemen file an application? What a dumb burro!
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naughtycal
Feb. 22, 2013 at 9:23amThere is example after example of the intent of the second amendment clause written by our forefathers and founders…..It was to give the people the ability to unseat a tyrant should one rise with in our government. THAT WAS WHY THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD THE FIRST AMENDMENT FAIL TO REIGN IN TYRANNY THE SECOND ONE WILL FORCEFULLY REMOVE IT.
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naughtycal
Feb. 22, 2013 at 9:29amOne last thing think about the direction these progressive are moving our system and ask yourself WHY ARE THEY SO FRANTICLY THROWING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE WALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
They know they are steps away from starting a Revolution in this country. They have used divicise politics to gain power and now consider those who oppose them enemies . So they also know or assume the enemies are also considering them as enemies as well. And its a powder keg that will eventually be set off.
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Trigus
Feb. 22, 2013 at 3:48pmJefferies should have been tarred and feathered and then run out of town. I think that is still on the books.
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Stelex
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:27pmEvery town in every state should as we speak, be forming a militia. Its our duty we all know the feds are gone, running out of control. bleeding us dry as a society…….
http://www.americans-working-together.com/this-is-how-one-state-repays-veterans/id51.html
Also seem to be targeting average americans now.
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wilbstal
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:23pmThe Mass unregulated Militia knew and had names of backers that initiated this Communist trick. These folks are on thin ice and they dont know it. We are watching and wont take any shiiit from them. Payback will be severe to say the least. The quiet Militia is the one the Communist better worry about, not the ones that come to open meetings.
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rochrealtor
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:12pmCongratulations Patriots…you have big shoes to fill in Massachusetts. Samuel Adams would be proud!!
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Grand design
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:46pmGet rid of Jeffries! Vote him out or recall him from office for usurping the Second Amendment!
Do you really need another Socialist in government?
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Berbel73
Feb. 21, 2013 at 8:57pmYou do realize that this is the state the elected Elizabeth Warren don’t you?
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ItsAllCrap
Feb. 22, 2013 at 10:23amThis guy is typical – chest puffing badass when he’s surrounded by his people. A complete ***** when confronted by those with a different opinion. He is like Obama, there was only going to be a discussion if there was no one to oppose him. The only discussion will be how smart he is with people who agree with him!
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dodgedart1966
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:11pmIf he wanted a militia, what were they to use? Black powder muskets only?
It’s probably exactly what he was thinking.
Westford is a town with a lot of liberals, but also a lot of open space and hunters. It’s on the edge of the Boston suburbs. More likely most of the attendees were long time residents, not new transplants from metro-west.
Good for the residents and others for standing up.
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progressiveslayer
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:55pmThe progressive pustules will try every angle they can think of to take away a right that they can’t take away no matter what they do. ‘The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed’. Candy@ss progressives will always try to make us subjects and it’s our duty to the republic to make sure these anti-constitution anti-American cretins never get into positions of power and when they do to make sure we fire them ASAP.
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Fat Hubie
Feb. 22, 2013 at 11:43amDid you say fire them or at them? I do not understand why people attacking the Bill of Rights are not being tried for treason. Maybe “WE” should restrict the First a little… No one should be actively seeking to take my inalienable rights.
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Small World
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:53pmAll this anti-gun crap may be the straw that broke the camels back.
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Jenny Lind
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:36pmIt may be the best wake up call for those who respect the constitution in a long time. Sooner or later people will wake up, hope it won’t be to late.
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John 1776
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:37pmOne must also remember that back then “Regulate” meant “to keep regular.” I think we should all work “to keep regular” the private ownership of guns as we are all, by definition, the “militia.”
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OnTheHunt
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:30pmwell said….with “the writing on the wall” it is just when and who will fire the first shot…I am hoping the lunacy subsides…just doesn’t seem that it will happen…..
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OnTheHunt
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:45pmoh…and the media and left have spent years/decades making the very word militia the equivalent of a four letter word often compared with KKK and other supremacy groups…..to hear it the way it is meant and to see so many in here doing the same is refreshing and keeps a glimmer of hope shining..
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Eastinfection
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:27pmI think having more local-level militias is a great idea.
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Fubared
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:45pmYep. This was a decent read, like to see the results…
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/20/houston-group-giving-away-shotguns-high-crime-neighborhoods-to-test-if-crime-is-reduced/
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piper60
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:22pmI was there last night, sitting in the Overflow Room, as the main room was filled to the rafters. The warrant went down in flames in just 10 minutes, shortly after my husband and I rolled in. If this HAD passed, it would have been shot down in the courts——maybe. This is Massachusetts, after all. When they officially closed the discussion of the matter, everybody stood and cheered. The selectmen scolded the audience for acting like they were at a sporting event. My response to that was the say “AWWWWWWWW! Poor baby! Loser”.
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Dudley Do-Right
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:54pmI used to drive through Westford everyday on my way to work in that great big brick building on Treble Cove Rd.
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paulhawk
Feb. 21, 2013 at 10:37pmWhen he started to scold the people, someone in the crowd should have reminded him that he is the guest in the house of the people
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Dudley Do-Right
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:20pm“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” George Mason (3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)
“The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, … all men capable of bearing arms;…” — Richard Henry Lee writing in “Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic”, 1788, page 169.
“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American … The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People.” — Tench Coxe -
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AmericanJoe76
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:17pmMr. Jeffries is a typical liberal/progressive. He claims that he wants a “discussion” of some issue, but what he really wants is to converse with those that agree with his position and lecture to opponents. The moment it looked like he might have to actually debate the issue, it was necessary to cancel the discussion. Imagine his disappointment when he was informed that the room was not going to be filled with people simply nodding their heads in approval as he revealed each brilliant point. Unfortunately, his dream of appearing on MSNBC as the brave government official that vanquished the malevolent gun lobby has turned into a nightmare of people sticking to their guns (pun intended) to the real meaning of the Second Amendment.
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daisy1955
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:41pmThat’s exactly what I was thinking. What a leftist wimp!! Thanks to all those who “filled the rafters” and caused this man to stand down. These guys aren’t brave enough to face all of us at once – they go limp as a…rag doll.
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jakartaman
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:16pmThis is Massachusetts for Gods sake.
You can count on one hand the # of conservatives in the state, especially politicians.
This is the land of Kerry(Us soldiers are mass killers) and bubble **** Barney “where’s the interns” Fannie May Frank
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lel2007
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:08pmToo bad the protesters didn’t drag out and tar and feather the Progressive town politicians who proposed the un-Constitutional ban.
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civilwarcometh
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:16pmOh their crazy alright.. http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/21/house-democrats-propose-10-tax-on-guns-to-fund-gun-buyback-programs/
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mcsledge
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:05pmMaybe these godless degenerates should read the words of the authors to the Constitution. They were very clear in stating that the right to bear arms is an individual right to self-preservation and protection from a rogue government. Even Justices on the Supreme Court like Joseph Story made this clear.
There is so much clarity given by the Founders, Congress, Presidents, original Justices, Common Law definitions, etc. on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Yet, these truths have been dismissed and or distorted in our institutions of learning.
One of the greatest lies ever told is that the America was not founded on Christianity. Piligrims and Founders alike are quite clear that America was a place to spread the Gospel of Christ and that this was one of their primary purposes for coming here.
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RightThinking1
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:02pmI suspect that their ‘Militia’ would have sported bow ties. Just a guess.
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MrKnowItAll
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:02pmRemember EVERYONE of these Idiots on Election Day. And God Forbid…If **** hits the fan!
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civilwarcometh
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:23pmRemember these names also… http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/21/the-60th-vote-republican-richard-shelby-to-support-hagel/
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grimmster
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:45pmSeems when “we the people” come together in mass,tyranny tends to run like a scared chicken……..Stay armed,stay vigilant, stay together……
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Woody4USA
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:36pmOur ancestors here fired “the shot heard ’round the world” taking down the worlds super power. This should be reminded often to these present day Tories that run this State. It was the Tories that signed “The Declaration of Dependance” in 1776 if you remember, pledging allegiance to England. How does it not look that way again? They want people to live that way now. That same blood still flows though the veins of some of us here today though our numbers pale in comparison to the Torrie Democrats that pose as our leaders.
- out numbered, yet never in retreat, behind enemy lines in the State of Torries.
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Excomunicatedmarine
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:38pmAt all levels there are traitors to our way of life. Vigilance, and remembering the arrogance of these buffoons when we go to the voting pols will still work…..if not then we must have our tools that protect our freedoms. There are problems that go back 100 years to fix.
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TSUNAMI_22
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:43pmWhen are these liberal doofs going to get it through their thick skulls that “well regulated” didn’t mean “well restricted”.
Well regulated during the formation of the Constitution meant “well-oiled, well funded, and well provided for”. Why else would the people be considered the militia in the first place……there was NO standing military at the time.
The FREE people (i.e. the average citizens) ARE the militia, and they always will BE the militia.
When and if the time ever comes when homes are summarily raided in a confiscation of arms attempt by the government, it will be the DUTY OF THE CITIZENRY to fire on the invaders with extreme prejudice.
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Southernsoul
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:41pmFine, as the Amendment says, only allow us weapons for a militia. I bet we could get funds for a couple of Abrams, maybe a few F-A 18′s per neighborhood. I think automatic rifles for everyone sounds like a good idea. I’ve always wanted an amour piercing, shoulder-held missile launcher.
The left is so damned stupid.
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OldSurfRat
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:49pmSouth
Maybe some WMDs.
Dont see why not. The left has it they call it president.
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BlackTalonAmmo
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:51pmI’d be happy with the bazooka that ted baxter aka o’really says I can get at a gun show because of the “gun show loop hole.”
I keep looking….
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Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:57pmVietnam War Bullets to Kill Ratio
M16 3000 rounds used per enemy killer.
700 Remington 308 sniper rifle 1.3 rounds per enemy killed.
I think every American should buy a 700 Remington 308 caliber, with a high power scope.
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mizzouwendy
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:00pmI wouldn’t mind a couple of Abrams tanks….might be fun to take down the interstate during rush hour!
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mr_ness
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:09pmwell that is the modern interpretation of a militias arms
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Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:23pmFYI, when you parallel park an Abrams tanks, park the tank on top of the cars.
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antisocialist
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:39pmI would suggest the guy look up the definition of Militia.
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antisocialist
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:38pm“This was meant to be a discussion,” he said. “But it’s no longer a discussion.”
Because nobody agreed with this dimwit.
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OnTheHunt
Feb. 21, 2013 at 7:38pmIt is no longer a discussion because it was never meant to be….the only way he knows how to discuss is for you to listen and him to tell you what you are supposed to think…once you have your own thoughts or disagree the discussion is over and welcome…you made the list
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Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:37pmThe Liberals are going to push gun control, like they pushed Obamacare in 2009.
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BlackTalonAmmo
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:36pmSeems like the well armed, and knowledgeable firearms owners regulated the seditious politician effectively.
For the record… It is pronounced, “Wehstfiihd.”
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OldSurfRat
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:40pmNow lets see this again and again and again…………………………………………
Take it back the same way it was lost ” little by little”
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BlackTalonAmmo
Feb. 21, 2013 at 5:57pmSad fact, OLDSURFRAT, is that had NO ONE showed up, it would have passed UNANIMOUSLY!
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Excomunicatedmarine
Feb. 21, 2013 at 6:42pmThat is why we have to show our numbers for a change. I still think a peaceful but armed march to Washington would be a gas.
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