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What Are the Best and Worst States for Second Amendment Fans?
Do you live in a state that still holds high regard for the Second Amendment?
The map seen above comes from the Brady Campaign, a group pushing for more stringent gun laws. Based on Brady’s scoring system, red states have the most relaxed laws when it comes to gun ownership. Green states are those with the toughest limitations for anyone hoping to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed gun rights.
The Brady group scores states on a variety of topics - things like state license requirements and background checks on all purchases. No state scores a perfect 100 with Brady, but California gets an 81, and that is before any new laws that will get put in place following the Sandy Hook massacre.

Image: Brady Campaign
At the top of Brady’s “best” (the most restrictive) states are:
- California
- Connecticut
- New York
- New Jersey
- Massachusetts
- Hawaii
Leading the “worst” list (according to Brady) are three states that might be considered the “best” states for gun owners. All three scored a ZERO on the Brady checklist. Getting a zero is probably like scoring 100 in the eyes of a firearms fan. Meet the “zeros”:
- Arizona
- Alaska
- Utah
Rounding out the rest of the top 10 best states for gun ownership (based on Brady) appear to be:
- North Dakota
- Oklahoma
- Florida
- Wisconsin
- Texas
- Wyoming
- Mississippi
If you are a gun owner, it is likely that you already know the laws in your state because you had to jump through whatever hoops required in order to secure a firearm. But what do you know about gun laws in the rest of the country?
- If you have to move to another state, will you be able to bring your guns with you?
- What about traveling with a gun? Can you drive across country with a weapon? (Air and train travel have specific limitations.)
- If you have a concealed carry permit in one state, is it recognized in other states?
Considering concealed carry rights, unlike a drivers license, not every state respects or acknowledges the concealed carry permits from other states. If you are planning on moving or traveling to another state, and you want to bring your weapon(s) with you, it is wise to constantly look into the laws of the place you are going. At least one website is attempting to stay abreast of the changes in the laws.
The map below is all about “concealed carry” rights. The light blue colored states “shall issue” permits, the khaki-colored states are those that “may issue” ccw permits, the yellow states require that you be a resident of the state in order to get a carry permit. And the red states (there’s only one state – Illinois and the District of Columbia) are places where citizens cannot even apply for a carry permit.
(We do realize that the Illinois ban was overturned in December of 2012, and the state has 180 days to come up with a new plan. An appeal is expected soon.)
There’s even an iPhone and Android app called “legal heat” that you can download on your phone to carry every state’s concealed carry laws with you.
As changes to gun laws in states are constantly evolving, we recommend that you always keep up with the laws in your state and community.
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Comments (266)
PATRIOT89
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:22pmAdd to that the fact that ALL but 3 utah sherriffs in the utah sheriffs association (including mine) were the ones responsible for signing and sending that controversial letter to obama after his illegal executive orders basically telling him to shove his orders where the sun dont shine! id much rather live here in utah then elswhere when the SHTF. I know my neighbors i know where we stand i know what our values and principals are (GOD, FAMILY, CONSTITUTION, GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, ) and who will stand up for my rights as i will theirs if it ever came to it.
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mikem1969
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:40pmAdd to that chart that most of the states with very restricting gun laws have the HIGHEST RATE OF GUN CRIMES. Imagine that, thugs love defenseless victims.
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RDWD32
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:12pm28 of the 29 county sheriffs signed that letter. Salt Lake County Sheriff James Winder was the only one not to sign. But what do you expect he is the Sheriff that includes Salt Lake City.
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Whatmeworry-never
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:24pmThe problem with Utah is all the non-Mormons that move there because of the culture then try to change it. I never understand why people are attracted to a spot, move there then try to change it to what they moved from, go back home if you want to bring your old ways. Every state I have lived in is great in it’s own way, well not Communist controlled ones like California, Illinois, New York and etc.
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:43pmVery PROUD to be on these BOZOS worse list.
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:50pmALL the BOZO’s that are pushing this CRAP have
armed bodyguards, Go figure..
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mtcountrygrl
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:29pmIn Montana you only need a permit to carry it concealed ON YOUR PERSON in your clothing. Carrying a concealed weapon in bag, case, or purse is legal for EVERYONE, unless you are a felon. We love women’s rights here.
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jdhelf
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:36pmThere should be a crime rate map alongside the Brady Campaign map.
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RPNelson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:59pmMe I am with ya!!!…country is going to hell in a hand basket and anybody that is anti-gun will at some point wish they were trained and had a gun!!
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SouEu
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:06pmAlso, Utah is proposing to get rid of the concealed carry permit altogether. Citizens can conceal carry without being required to have a permit anymore. Of course, there were some protests by some of the liberal Calfirnicans that have moved into the state, but the vote to abolish it overwhelmingly passed, with just 2 Democrats (probably the only two in the entire state legislature) voting against it. Looks like it will very likely become the law.
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Gargent_Furball
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:09pmThank You, I love our Sheriffs, They are cool.
I have the Utmost respect for the Sheriff dept. Can’t say the same for the Unified network.
God, Family,Constitution and God Given Rights. amen
SouEu
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:15pmHere are a couple of news stories about Utah Getting rid of concealed carry permits:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55869003-90/bill-carry-committee-concealed.html.csp
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lawmakers-OK-bill-getting-rid-of-concealed-permit-4295184.php
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mtcountrygrl
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:23pmThere are 4 gun law bills going in front of the legislature in Montana. The first two get rid of all gun free zones for people with legal conceal carry permits (including government buildings) and prohibit private companies or universities from preventing legal conceal carry permit holders from carrying. The third allows hunters to legally use suppressors (my hunting husband is losing his hearing thanks to this being illegal). The fourth, makes it so legal firearms owners do not need a permit to carry concealed within city limits (it is already legal to carry outside city limits),
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gsydria
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:33pmI love my state and will die here, Arizona rocks
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SREGN
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:50pmHere in Jersey about the only way you can get a permit is to be one of Christie’s family’s swarm of armed bodyguards. They are the only one Christie deems worthy of protection.
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lovenfl3
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:43pm@PATRIOT89 Well Said!!!
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USALOVER2011
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:47pm@WHATMEWORRY-NEVER
You wrote:
“The problem with Utah is all the non-Mormons that move there because of the culture then try to change it. I never understand why people are attracted to a spot, move there then try to change it to what they moved from, go back home if you want to bring your old ways. Every state I have lived in is great in it’s own way, well not Communist controlled ones like California, Illinois, New York and etc.”
I strongly disagree with your “all non-Mormons” comment. There are some people that want to change Utah into whatever they want them to change into, but, I stay away from those type of people! My family and I are not Mormons, and some of my friends are not either. I will never ever try to change them, and none of my friends are not trying to change them either…. 99.9% of my neighbors are very religious, very involve at church and very family oriented, that’s what I love about them. My family and I, and most of my non-Mormons friends are the same way, except we go to Catholic church.
This is not the first time I heard someone making comments like this, and I wish people would stop saying “ALL non-Mormons” because they/you can’t be anymore wrong! By the way, we also love our GUNS and BIBLE.
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Fuddy-duddy
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:09pm@Whatmeworry-never
“I never understand why people are attracted to a spot, move there then try to change it to what they moved from”
That’s simple; they love the freedom, safety, and often clean environment that is found in these communities. Problem is they can’t see how their voting patterns led to the mess they fled in the first place. They come demanding amenities that weren’t there that attract a problematic population. Before you know it graffiti, drugs, decay, and crime show up, Then the cycle starts all over; these people seek safer towns/schools and lower taxes/cost of living, and move to the next conservative community without realizing some of them are bringing the problem with them.
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ibanrfknm
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:09pmI am looking forward to moving to Utah within the year and we have no plans to change what seems to be a very nice and free place to live.
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dajones
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:11pmNow if only Salt Lake folk will remember this when elections come up.. I will campaign against Sheriff James Winder; heck, I might even run against him.,
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dajones
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:22pmI have question about removing the requirement of having a conceal carry permit SouEu. How can other states honor your out of state conceal carry rights if you have no permit for them to honor? Does your drivers license or other state id become your permit?
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Cemoto78
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:53pmI am proud to be living in Arizona, one of the lowest scores on the Brady Bunch list. Our score represents the amount of gun control laws that will be passed here- ZERO
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R1dd1ck
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 9:04pm@RDWD32
Wonder what Sheriff Winder will do when the other 28 come knocking on the door.
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iFixRJs
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 10:40pm@SOUEU The law being proposed here in UT about getting rid of the conceal carry permit is not all it’s cracked up to be. There was something they snuck in there about removing the right to carry on school grounds. Right now you can carry on school grounds under the current program, if this were to change it would not be a good thing. Keep things the way they are I say. They’re working.
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mllewis9171
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 1:10amNew Mexico has some problems but at least the county sheriffs still try. 30 of 33 signed on to a statement to support the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.
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decendentof56
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 3:22amCan’t figure out why peple are so irrtional about guns? Watch this 30 year old video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo
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SpyvsSpy
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 5:37amGood for you and yours when the SHTF you will find out…YOU NEVER KNOW A MAN UNTILL YOU SHARE AN INHERITANCE WITH HIM …Good Luck…And may God help us all…
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Trigus
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 10:09amPeople need to stop doing business with any company, city, or State that is Anti-American and willingly infringes on the Rights of Americans. Stop buying all goods: grown or manufactured, cancel all vacations, and conventions. This map gives us a great starting point.
At the top of Brady’s “best” (the most restrictive) states are:
California
Connecticut
New York
New Jersey
Massachusetts
Hawaii
“The Eyes of all our Countrymen are now upon us, and we shall have their blessings, and praises, if happily we are the instruments of saving them from the Tyranny mediated against them. Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the whole world, that a free man contending for Liberty on his own ground is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.” — George Washington, 1776
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theotherberean
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 10:25am@DAJONES I’m not sure about other states but you can still get a CCW in Arizona, although they are not required there. Then you may carry legally in reciprocal states.
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drattastic
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 11:23amI will not travel or spend money in a state that restricts 2nd amendment rights ,that includes spending money online.
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WE-SURROUND-THEM
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 11:57amDon’t’ californicate utah!!!!!
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James
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 1:09pmNot sure how to take this survey. My State, Florida has the most Conceal Carry Permits of all states! Texas and Louisiana have got to be up there. Louisiana is called Sportsman’s Paradise for a reason!
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:19pmWhat kind of warped, irrational, anti-American, anti-Constitution bed-wetting sissies devised that idiotic grading scale? As far as I’m concerned, every single value on that entire chart is an infringement of our rights. “…shall not be infringed” is not a suggestion. Don’t like that, you Brady freaks? Get another Constitutional amendment passed. Until then, stick your utopia up your ****, hide behind your couch and leave me the hell alone.
We’re being overrun with morons, neutered sissies and political correctness. They’re a cancer eating our culture at an exponential rate. God help us.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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Uechi
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:36pmSpot on thanks!
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crueltiming
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:20pmA fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. — Sigmund Freud
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LasVegasRon
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:08pmNeed a 10 thumbs up button for that comment!
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mkvc
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:24pmWhatmeworry-never
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:24pm
I grew up in a small So. Utah town, LaVerkin, it was a great place settled by the early folks sent by BY to establish an area of fruit trees and vineyards. Many of the old guard’s descendants, town’s original settlers were still there when I was young. Over the past decades, however as folks got tired of CA and other once great states turned socialist, many moved there for the lifestyle and freedom available and before long they were on the city counsel etc. and began to implement laws and city ordinances just like the places where they came from, zoning restrictions and other personal property restrictions, what could and couldn’t’ be done within city limits etc.. Well it’s become a place just like the places where they came from only smaller. Now most of the descendants of the old families that settled have left in disgust. We’re losing what and who we once were, not traditions and no character in many cases.
mkvc
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gwinf
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:46pmYee Ha! Gotta love it!
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Rageinthemachine
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:51pmAmen, Brother! Very well said!
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June Bug
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:11pmWhy don’t you tell us how you really feel??
Okay….I totally agree with you!
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uslawman1983
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 6:05pmPerfectly said!
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retiredfire
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 8:23pmI truly feel for James Brady, whose name the group uses, who was shot in the head by John Hinkley during an assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan.
His wife has run with their tragedy and turned it into the leading anti-gun organization in the country.
A pure and simple case of letting emotions run rampant – and to think James Brady was a good Republican.
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R1dd1ck
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 9:02pmAlthough hiding behind the couch or closed door won’t stop a bullet.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:17pmAlso, on a related note. If you want a CHL and your state is full of crap and doesn’t/won’t issue you one despite the fact that you’re a law abiding decent person, apply to Arizona. They grant CHL’s to all Americans, period. If you’re former military, they will take your DD-214 as proof of competency. For $60.00 and a set of finger print cards you can have a CHL for when you’re outside of your tyrannical state, which is good in a huge number of states.
Contact them and they’ll send you an application packet. Worth the money if you live in Illinois, or Cali, or New York/East Coast.
Metro Phoenix: (602) 256-6280
Outside Metro Phoenix (In Arizona): (800) 256-6280
Fax: (602) 223-2928
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:56pmexcellent info Ghost…
i knew that Utah did this but not AZ….
I wonder if TX would honor a UT or AZ CHL?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:04pmTexas recognizes both Arizona and Utah permits.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:23pmI know that FL CWL permits are recognized in I believe 37 states.
As far as getting harassed by LE for printing, that has to be the nitpickiest nonesense I have ever heard of.
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sta
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:54pmDoes AZ give permits even if one is a resident of another state?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:05pm@STA
Yes, that applies to ALL Americans. You could live smack in the middle of New York City, and get an Arizona CHL.
And yes, printing is nitpicking bullcrap. In fact, it’s the very definition of the government infringing on your right to bear arms.
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lcam67
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:24pm@Ghost
Do you know the age requirment ?
18 or 21 ? My son just turned 18
I live in Connecticut . It is 21 here
Thanks , Lou
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:41pm@LCam
The age requirement for packing a sidearm is determined by the state you are carrying it in, not on the license you hold. For example, in Wyoming (God bless Wyoming, the home of my soul and soon my family) you only have to be 14 to open carry and, you don’t need a license. Seriously.
As to getting an AZ permit, you need to be 21 to apply and not under indictment for a felony and you also have to be a legal citizen of the U.S> (love it!).
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wzanesdad
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:07pmGhost,
You are sooooo right about AZ. I have lived here all my life and would never even think about leaving. When napolitano was gov, she was trying to get more gun control laws passed, and almost succeded, but Jan Brewer came in and we have never looked back. God bless Jan Brewer. She knows right from wrong and uses common sense and has absolutely no fear of this administration. She is well loved here.
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lcam67
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 7:37pm@ghost
Thank you !
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sta
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 8:50pmThanks GhostofJefferson! My husband is a former Marine. He has to take a 150.00 gun safety course here in MI for a CCW.
I’m going to be calling AZ!
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ColoradoMaverick
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:16pmIronic that the so called Progressive states which have high brady scores also have higher rates of crimes involving guns… How can this be??? Maybe, just maybe these stupid laws don’t work.
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wowjustwow
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:46pmI think it’s more indicative of overcrowding and large cities. I think that when you have that thick a concentration of people, you will have more crime. I don’t know what the answer is. I think gun control should be based on the type of state. A state jam-packed with people should have more gun control while states with more area and less people should be more lax. That’s just my opinion.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:29pmThe more restrictive ie infringing on our second amendment right the more violence you see committed by criminals because they will always be armed,they’re not concerned with laws.
wowwow We don’t need more gun control laws that violate our right to bear arms all those laws are unconstitutional. The only correct and legal answer is to abolish all so called ‘gun laws’ created since the second amendment was written because they’re all unconstitutional. Shall not be infringed is a pretty simple concept.
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13th Imam
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:18pmThe tendency of “Crowded states” to hold more criminals carrying firearms, should lead to more legal firearms being carried by legal citizens in these states. If not they are just cannon fodder. Wow is delusional.
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wowjustwow
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 9:11pmTo PROGRESSIVESLAYER – nothing is absolute. Think you have freedom of speech — ever heard of slander?
To 13Imam – I’m not “delusional”…I stated that I don’t have the answer. In that environment, more guns isn’t the answer…less guns in the wrong hands is the right answer, but achieving that is difficult.
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decendentof56
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 3:18am@WowWow…”I’m not “delusional”…I stated that I don’t have the answer. In that environment, more guns isn’t the answer…less guns in the wrong hands is the right answer, but achieving that is difficult.”
Achieving ” less guns in the wrong hands”, as you suggest, is impossble. You need to take a cold shower and rethink that statement. Alcohol was not eliminated with Prohibition, and guns will not be eliminated with gun controls.
There will always be a blackmarket for whatever is “illegal”. Prostitution, poaching, whatever. Your “more restrictions/less guns argument has already been proven wrong by places like Chicago, etc.
Innocent, law-abiding people have a right to defend themselves against predators I hope you are not saying the opposite! Wake up!
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PATRIOT89
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:16pm@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON
not to ruffle any feathers or anything but….
Maybe you should get your facts straight “Utah – No unlicensed open carry, and only got open carry this year, bzzt, wrong answer”
wrong have lived in utah all my life and we have had unlicensed open carry laws for a very long time although you cannot have a round in the chamber while open carrying you can have a fully loaded magazine and no one can say anything to you about it. (i.e. the story that went nationwide a few months ago of a young man open carrying his AR-15 through JC Penneys (no charges filed)).
And if you have a CCW then you can carry however you want. there is even a bill being debated as we speak to make it legal to concealed carry without needing a permit. Utah’s constitution doubly protects my second amendment rights (especially in a state of emergency i.e. Katrina anyone?)
against gun confiscation & registration.
Not only that it is one of the easiest states to get a concealed permit being a shall issue state if you meet the minimum requirements and are a lawful citizen they cannot deny you a permit. i can go on and on. obviously no state is perfect and we all have those nasty little progressive weasels to deal with but i’d say utah is an awesome state for the most part when it comes to gun laws.
heck a large part of our economy is based on outdoor recreaton/tourism, including hunting.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:25pm“there is even a bill being debated as we speak to make it legal to concealed carry without needing a permit. ”
I believe there is a lot of support for this bill, except for Gov. Herbert, who does not support it. Do you believe the bill will pass without Herbert’s support?
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Fed up in Bama
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:39pmSame w/ Alabama stats on these Brady maps…..We’ve had Democrats in charge for so long, but NOT NOW. All Republicans and they’re voting a great gun freedom bill in as we speak. Already passed the House. This map will change very soon. Open carry, across State lines, ‘Shall’ issue, etc…
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:58pmI already stated the 2 step rule before you posted.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:05pmI also did mention that you have great CHL laws. :)
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Skearit
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:46pmThat bill hopefully will go up to the vote today. And it’s kinda sounding like it has enough support to override a veto from Herbert. Let’s hope. The other one I’m excited about is also on the floor clarifying that in the absence of intimidating behavior, open carry is NOT disturbing the peace. That one is for the ****s here at USU that have been arresting and charging law-abiding students for exercising their rights.
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Dan_o
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:00pmHahaha, while the topic is not funny, citing the Katrina aftermath as a reason to have loose gun laws in Utah is just funny.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m with you in support of the 2A and states rights, but I had to chuckle at that.
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LasVegasRon
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:13pmArizona doesn’t require a permit to conceal carry.
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SanDiegoCountyCitizen
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:39pmAll of which is why Utah is on my short list of relocation areas! God Bless Utah & Arizona!
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xjeeper
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:53pmI always carried one in the chamber when I lived in AZ. and always carried openly. What good is a gun without one in the chamber? Maybe a revolver would make more sense, unless you must leave one slot empty in the cylinder under the hammer?
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spfoam1
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:14pmIt is as if the people who come up with restrictive gun laws have been shot in the head, and are able to feel but not think. If laws stopped crime, why do we have police and prisons?
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Al J Zira
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:11pmI would make an argument the New Jersey should be higher on the list. I guess until they vote on their 22 gun restriction policies that have passed the state assembly they’re not draconian enough.
I laugh at the Brady Campaign every time they’re mentioned. Their policy is to eliminate guns, period. I love how they state their goal is to “create an America free from gun violence.” Whatever that means, guns are not violent.
On their list, just about ever state in the country doesn’t have strict enough policies on guns. What goes that say about the Brady Campaign? They also list Alaska as one of the worst: do they even realize why people are allowed to carry a gun in Alaska? It’s called protecting yourself from being eaten by a bear or killed by the most common cause of death, a moose. But I guess animals have right too so all we have to do is explain to the polar bears, grizzlies and moose about being violent toward people so they understand.
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cessna152
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:24pmWow , PA is 26. I’m surprised Texas is better in the sense that PA s open carry, TX is not. Pa does not have brandishing or printing laws and you can have a beer and carry in bars. Also, getting your carry does not require classes and training bs. Anyway, I’m surprised NJ is not 100 because they have registration, FOID cards, no carry, AWB, COPS INSPECT your house that you live there, you get finger printed,etc. they Camden,Newark and AC per capita are the most dangerous cities in the USA.
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NJ_Azrael
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:53pmI compeltely agree. New Jersey has some of if not the most stringent gun laws in the country, but yet we still have some of the highest gun related crime rates in the nation. You would think that common sonse would come into play somewhere along the line, but the gestapo here simply don’t care.
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1NJslave
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 4:52pmThe gun laws in N.J. are very restrictive. Cosmetic items like a bayonet lug are illegal, which makes me laugh really hard. If some clown comes at me with a rifle intending to stab me with a bayonet on the end, I will die laughing before I am punctured by it! Odds are I will be stabbed in the back by the perp coming up from behind me with a steak knife that they bought at Walmart. Adjustable stocks, flash suppressors, all the items that the libs could get away with banning at the time. Nibbling away until people agree that their should be a total ban on guns.
Alot of the urban city gun crime is gang related here. Battling for turf, caught up in the pressure of their peers to choose sides. The young can’t just pick up and leave home, they are too young. Most of these children are just that, children. The schools(not all) have become the social club, no longer the place to learn, but to socialize. The NJEA has a captured audience with them, indoctrinating them with lib views. After school they either go to a safe haven or are left to fend for themselves on the street. Sadly, there is no life in my eyes that would be considered normal in the cities of New Jersey. They are the products of their environment. They don’t understand the normal of having a gun in the house other than to shoot someone with. And if you have a gun, you are considered either a gangster or cop. They just can’t see the sense in going hunting out in the woods for food when you can go to the market & buy
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liberalhuntingseason
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:09pmI think the problem we have is that we have is that their is a lot of angry people out there. But we feel “alone” because we have not yet banded together. If we are passionate about our beliefs I believe every town or city should start its own militia. And when the govt comes to take away your right you make a phone call. when half the town shows up armed and @issed off, well thats real power. The more strands of string the harder it is to break. This is the only way my friends remember that you are not alone and sometimes you have to fight history proves this!!!
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dnewton
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:31pmThe state of Tennessee has the right to conscript citizens on the spot and require them to bring their arms. The people who don’t show up can be fined. An informal volunteer militia does exist and it does the occasional drill, like weekend warrior stuff. The biggest problem with Tennessee is that it banned all local governments from making more gun laws but allowed laws before about 1986 to remain on the books. Your legally perceived rights change as you drive down the Interstate and get closer and closer to large cities. The state constitution used to say that only white people could carry guns but they changed that to violate everyone’s rights instead of just a minority of the population. The state still claims the right to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to reducing crime.
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wilbstal
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:08pmIt will not make a difference what the laws are in any State. When the poop hits the fan all rules and laws are null and void. Do you think you are going to look up a law if some Gov Communist is shooting at you and your familys? This is so funny Gun owners will be shooting to win and rules wont interfere with their aim in any state.. War has few rules and evryone breaks them. The papers with the laws will be toilet paper for ass wipeing.
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A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:04pmWhere was VA?? They need to put that on the list of best states.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:09pmSerious question. I know Western VA is great and I open carry there when I pass through, but I’ve heard that the eastern/north eastern side is touchy. Is that true? I ask because I may be heading through that area this year.
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cessna152
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:27pmYup, it’s like PA. open carry west of Harrisburg or you’ll get questioned by citizens more than anything.
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Popp40
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:33pmVA is a unique state, there is a BIG push to turn the state into a Democratic state and in a lot of urban areas (Northern VA and Richmond (city limits)) there is a very good Democratic stronghold. There is also an anti-gun push in these areas as well and they are pushing it throughout the state. However, I know the last gun show that was held in Chantilly which is in Northern VA it was packed! But then again it could have been people driving from other locations in the state.
The people I have talked to in these areas who are Democrats believe in strong gun controls and feel that they should be limited (if not banned) except for government employees and themselves. However, they believe everyone else should be limited and they seriously think that the criminals will hand over their guns. But the more research I do the more I see the Democrats supporting criminals and in most cases are criminals themselves.
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A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:57pm@GHOST
I live in South West VA. Before I got my concealed carry permit I opened carried all the time. Never once had any one make a comment to me (no one even gave me a weird look) or had any trouble with police. To answer your question, most likely yes. Northern VA is more “blue” as in they lean to the left. I’ve never opened carried (or carried at all) up there but I would expect if you did you might run into people and police who are touchy about it. Having said that, overall VA is a very gun friendly state.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:14pm@A_Call
Thanks for the answer (and to everybody else too). Follow up question, if you don’t mind? You do have state pre-emption of local laws right? I’m never shy about exercising rights, especially where state pre-emption is on my side and I can cite it to the cop and smile if he dares to approach me for peacefully open carrying. And yes, I carry a recording device, and know laws before I try such a thing. Being an Ohio activist has paid off in spades regarding experience in what to do.
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A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:01pmAnytime GHOST.
You can open carry in the entire state of VA as long as you are 21 and up, not a convicted felon and the gun is clearly visible. Exceptions being schools (including colleges), police stations, and federal buildings/property, and of course any private property that does not allow it. There are no local laws that preempt that.
That’s a good idea. While most cops in VA are educated on gun laws and don’t have a problem, there are ALWAYS some that are uneducated and hassle people.
That answer your question. Did I understand you correctly?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:12pm@A_Call
Yep, answered it perfectly. So it sounds just like Ohio law to the tee. That’s a great thing, as it won’t take trying to remember a new set of laws that differ from what I’m used to. Stay away from Federally designated areas, stay off posted private property, otherwise good to go.
Thanks again, I appreciate your time and the education you provided. :)
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A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 3:57pmYou are welcome sir.
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Cavallo
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:54amI want to see more states actually pass anti-Federal regulations, barring the ATF from enforcing federal weapons laws on weapons owned, and manufactured in the State.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:01pmMe too. Ohio joined the list of states doing that. Us, and some of the Old West states. Warms me down to the cockles of my little heart. :)
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BladeFyre
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:17pm@GhostofJefferson
Yes it’s true Ohio jumped on the anti-federal gun ban with State SB36
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText130/130_SB_36_I_Y.pdf
But the libs in Ohio also have the ban-ALL-semi-auto-firearms-that-can-accept-magazines-which-hold-10-or-more-rounds / create-registry-database also known as State SB18… http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText130/130_SB_18_I_Y.pdf
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:44pm@Bladefyre
The Libs in the statehouse have 0.0% power. They are flummoxed at all of the pro-2nd Amendment laws we’re passing. They are literally impotent and they know it. The faux bills they’re proposing that you cite are for their constituencies and won’t make it out of committee let alone have a chance on the floor of the statehouse. Our state government is local GOP controlled, from the house to the senate to the governor. What you’re citing is the left’s fluff because they know we’ve cut their nuts off and they’re sulking.
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BladeFyre
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:29pm@GhostofJefferson,
I agree with you, I just thought it would be fun to point it out! Every rep my friends and I have contacted regarding SB18, say they are voting against it, and remind us to look at SB36, which they say they are going to vote for. Have a great day!
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frogg
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:53amThank God that Florida only had a score of 3!!!!!!
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semihardrock
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:53amSHOCK REPORT — Veterans Receive Letters From VA Prohibiting Ownership or Purchase of Firearms
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 22, 2013, 6:11 AM
This must be Barack Obama’s way of thanking our veterans for serving.
US veterans are receiving letters from the government informing them that they are disabled and not allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. If the veteran does decide to purchase a firearm he will by fined, imprisoned or both.
I just TRIED sending this article to my friends on Facebook and was DENIED! I am starting to understand why FB just received a 500K tax credit and pays NO TAXES!
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wilbstal
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:12pmunconstitutional get the guns anyway and screw Obama and his Communist gun grab they will all get defeated tyhis war will last 100 yrs. none of the Gov communist will dare leave home once this war starts. if this is what they want they can have it
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RaydocX
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:52amMissouri has a few legislators trying to take steps back.
Colorado HAS taken steps back, leaving Wyoming and Kansas hoping to get the 700 jobs Magpul Industries will likely remove from Boulder.
Any suggestion that Alaska is too lax on gun control is ridiculously ignoring the percentage of the population who are much more self-reliant than the average US citizen based merely upon where they live. The bureaucracy could not jump through the necessary hoops to be present to check the safe disposition of AR’s as has been suggested in Washington.
How many innocents will pay the ultimate price for their legislators choosing to ‘feel good about themselves’ rather than availing themselves to logic and facts in states like Colorado, Washington, and New York in the decade it will take before such unConsitutional laws as are being passed and enforced are declared so or are rescinded by reasoned politicians?
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NickyLouse
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:50amBelieve it or not Vermont is one of only 3 states that require no permit for open carry nor conceal carry.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:05pmVermont, Wyoming, Alaska, Arizona
Think you’re one off on the count, friend. Or did I mistake one of these?
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SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:48amyeah..I live in a ZERO…BIG FAT 0..AWESOME…
Zero is my Hero..
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:48amArizona – Great state, deserves the position
Alaska – Great state, deserves the position
Utah – No unlicensed open carry, and only got open carry this year, bzzt, wrong answer
North Dakota – no unlicensed open carry, but otherwise decent
Oklahoma – no unlicensed open carry, and with license only granted as of 11/1/2012, bzzt, wrong answer
Florida – no unlicensed open carry. Cops still nab you for printing. Bzzt.
Wisconsin – Not a bad ranking, they’ve come a long way in a very short time
Texas – No open carry. Period. Cops will nail you for printing. Period. Bad call.
Wyoming – The Ideal state for firearms rights, should be equal to Arizona. No qualms on this one.
Mississippi – no unlicensed open carry. No firearms in staet parks, no firearms in wildlife management areas. Bad, bad bad call.
And Ohio, which requires no license for open carry, which has parking permitted at the statehouse with firearms no biggie, where you can walk into a bar with a firearm legally, and where cities are sued out of their savings if they even look at gun owners cross eyed, nor South Dakota who has the same gun laws as Wyoming, didn’t rank above hellholes for gun rights like Misissippi, Florida and Texas. Amazing. Who compiled this list anyway?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:53amAmended Utah you can carry openly unlicensed, as long as you make your firearm useless (2 steps to fire rule). If you have a license though, you can carry in a sane and safe manner. With state permission, as noted.
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JRook
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:02pmWell at the macro level it is interesting to correlate the ranking contained herein with the corresponding state’s rate of gun violence. Doesn’t seem to support the positive impact of free and open access to guns.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/01/11/20-deadliest-gun-states-from-mississippi-to-arizona.html.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:07pm1. Dailybeast – discredited
2. Show me the crime in Wyoming, South Dakota and Alaska regarding gun violence (hint, it’s hard to do).
Since you never answer posts, I take you at face value for a troll. You’ve been told that your opinion is no longer even considered as part of the discussion. Send that back to your anti-rights friends, tell them we’re not going to engage them any longer, k? Thanks mate.
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RaydocX
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:11pmJRook, remember what Twain said about what consitutes a lie.
FACT is that violent crime has fallen in states where concealed carry is passed.
FACT is that gun crime continues… and has increased, in cities with the most anti-gun laws.
I will even grant you that the number of deaths may not decline significantly… half of gun deaths are suicides, which distorts statistical testing. And when the law abiding citizen carries, it is more likely the deceased will be the criminal.
But you know that, you just want to pretend guns are the bad thing, and not the darkness in man’s heart.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:18pmA bill is currently (or shortly will be) in the House in Utah that would allow open or concealed carry of any weapon without any license. It has fairly good support (although the Governor does not support the bill) and I would not be surprised if it passes.
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Vision Harry
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:19pmJR KOOK, You remind me of the little wussies that used to go tattle on those who were merely blessed with a higher intellect.
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grimmster
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:34pm@Ghost.
Once again i have to disagree with you, Texas is anything but a hell hole, and its obvious you do not, nor ever have lived here. I have my CHL,and yes, printing is an issue,and not allowed,but hell hole,seriously?! Tell me the last time some cop made a big issue out of someone who’s gun “printed” that made the news, be it local orr national, or show me a statistic from the D.P.S. here……..
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:02pm@Grimster
I didn’t mean hellhole all around. I meant that it doesn’t really have firearms liberty, and yes, I lived in San Angelo as a matter of fact, back in the 1980′s. Loved the people, wasn’t fond of the heat (but, Texas can’t help that), however the gun laws are enough to put one off to somebody from a state where not only don’t I have to worry about printing, but I can and do open carry without permission, permit or worry. Texas is the opposite of the perceived view of the Old West, which is much more represented in places like South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. Great people, hot weather, and gun laws more akin to South Carolina or Delaware than to an Old West state is how Texas is in my view.
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JethroUSMC
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:07pmGhost…
While you’re individual points on a state-by state basis are valid, it’s a bit myopic to only look at one item for criteria – unlicensed open carry. Make no mistake those states that have authorized licensed open carry within the last 5 years will have unlicensed open carry in the not to distant future – one step at a time to eliminate the sheeple mentality and have hard facts to refute their emotion-only based claims of blood in the streets.
For example: Vermont. While unlicensed open carry is legal, owning something like a suppressor is completely prohibited. But fully automatic firearms are legal as are most states.
Certain things don’t make sense from a law perspective, but are slowly being taken back to the natural right granted us at the local level.
The scoring system by the Brady bunch should be worn with a badge of honor. Don’t forget the original groups name was Handgun Control, Inc. Like most progressive, socialist dolts they had to change the name to hide their true intentions.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:11pmJKROOK, Daily Beast??? hahahahahahahahaha
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:16pmThat’s great to hear Fish_Bone.
I give folks in other states crap about this kind of thing, not to belittle them, but to light a fire under their @sses and get them riled and wanting to get their unconstitutional laws repealed. I figure, the more I stir up the hornets about these kinds of things, the better.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:20pm@JethroUSMC
I actually agree with you. My intent is to get people riled up about why, precisely, they can’t exercise their rights. The ultimate litmus test on 2nd Amendment integrity is how closely a state adheres to unlicensed open (and/or concealed) carry. CHL’s are nothing but permissions we beg from our government, which invalidate the very notion of a right to begin with. Don’t take me wrong, I have a CHL, mainly because I hate loading/unloading when I enter/exit a vehicle (don’t get me started on the Ohio failing point regarding vehicles), but still, the principle is if you cannot actually bear an arm (whether open, concealed or both), without permission, then you’re not really that high on the 2nd Amendment scale. I know, I’m a bit of a radical on this, but still.
Like I said, I want people first getting mad at me, and then getting mad when they realize what I’m pointing out, and THEN, getting busy getting their crap repealed. I’m working on stuff in Ohio, I’d hope that they were in their own states.
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Skearit
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:54pmTwo step rule with a revolver……pull the trigger…..which ***** the hammer and fires. This one never really bothered me because I carry a wheel gun. However, as has been mentioned, this should change really soon and everyone can carry anything however the heck they like. I’m more than just a little excited.
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Libertatis6
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:03pmExcellent information. Thanks for the education. I have a PA Concealed Carry permit; recently retired in MO. Keeping an eye on progress of the bills that have been introduced.
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NickyLouse
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:46amIllinois and Texas do not allow guns to be carried openly. Vermont is one of the only states that shall permit open carry and concealed carry without permits along with Arizona and Wyoming.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:55amCorrect on concealed carry. Ohio and a lot of other states have unlicensed open carry though. You just have to move away from the east coast to start feeling the freedom. I’d love to get the CHL requirements repealed in Ohio, but hey, I can walk down the street with my 1911 fully loaded and ready and for all to see without “permission”, and do it every day, so that’s something.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:08pmAnd Alaska.
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ledbythnose
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:46pmNICKY
I live in Texas and carry a 30 Carbine on my 4 Wheeler on my Property every where I go. With a 30 round Magazine in it. Haven’t had a single complaint. I also have no trespassing signs up. Any one who wants to cross the gate does so at their own peril. My carry license is the Second Amendment . ALL OTHER LAWS are superseded by it.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:08pm@Lebby
Fantastic. Now, get outside your property and open carry in Texas. Let me know how the 2nd Amendment holds up. :)
I know I carp on Texas about this, but dang it, it’s because I like Texas and Texans and it bothers the living hell out of me that the epitome of the “old West” is closer to Delaware or South Carolina in restrictive gun laws than it is to any other Old West state. Fix that hoss, ’cause I can’t (Ohio here).
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ledbythnose
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 5:33pmGhost.
When enough red blooded Americans begin to understand exactly what the Second Amendment is about. You or me won’t have to worry about where we carry our weapons . We will be using them every day to stay free. We just haven’t suffered enough yet to take the fight to them. We will both know when that day comes. I promise.
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dcgirl
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:45amI thought DC and Chicago had their gun laws overturned. Are the politicians simply ignoring the court rulings?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:56amD.C. – yes
Illinois – they have 180 from the ruling to institute some form of legal carry. Expect appeals to stymie this.
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Raphiki
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 1:55pmChicago and DC residents could not even own a gun until the law was overturned. Now you can own a gun in Chicago – you just can’t use it.
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Havok
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:44amThe bottom map is wrong for NH. You can get a permit to carry in NH if you live outside it.
Please do your research guys.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:03pmCorrect. However, please note that you must already have a permit from another state first, unless you reside in Vermont, in order to get an out of state NH permit.
Gun laws and me, we’re friends. It’s my real life activist cause, so it’s always good to know the laws.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:43amMy home state of AZ has a perfect record then, we are a free state with the right to carry arms and the right to use them in self-defense. Little wonder Obama hates this state so much.
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NickyLouse
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:47amNo permit is required in AZ to open carry or conceal carry.
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Sine labore nihil
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:48amI live in UT and He has never been here.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:48amHe sure does he’s sued Arizona for trying to protect it’s borders and he’s trying to do away with our second amendment right as well.
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SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:50amIt is good living in a Big ZERO State..isn’t it….
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JoeE71
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:40amBoo yeah! My state got a ZERO!!! Go Utah!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:52amOne wonders why. You cannot open carry without state permission, unless you put your firearm into a non-ready state (2 step rule). I can carry, without a license, fully in condition 1 and do so regularly in Ohio, even downtown in the Capitol area of Columbus, never see an eye bat over it. You do have decent concealed carry laws, but then, so does my state.
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Idaho2aa
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:38amDid the person who wrote this article even do their homework? They decided to do their own Top 10 best states according to the Brady Campaign and didn’t even come close apparently.
My State, Idaho, is lower than Wyoming and some of the other States in the Top 10. Montana has the same score as Idaho but is not on the Top 10 from The Blaze writer. If you are going to write out a Top 10 at least get it right.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:58amAbsolutely agree. Idaho is one hell of a great state. It’s too bad the writer(s) used the standards of the Brady Campaign. What’s interesting is how invisible open carry is to Brady, it’s not even a consideration, but it is, in my estimation, the truest test of how free your state is regarding the 2nd Amendment. If you don’t need state permission to open carry in a fully ready condition, then you’re a hell of a sight freer then Texas, Florida or Misissippi. But look at the rankings. Geesh.
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Skearit
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:06pmI don’t live in Idaho (30 miles south in Utah) so I’m just repeating what I’ve read. Maybe you can correct me if I’m mistaken. Idaho’s carry laws are great, but the state lacks a good castle doctrine. IMO, the Castle doctrine is the flip side of the gun law coin. If you can carry but get thrown in prison for using the weapon, that kinda sucks. Better than no carry at all, but really a state needs both for my peace of mind.
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carhouse
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:37amI have a cc in Connecticut but work in NY. (not NY city) just over the stae line in westchester NY
I can not carry over stateline,
or is there some way I can?
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:52amthe way you can it to exercise your rights even though the states violate the constitution.
Might as well get used to breaking unconstitutional laws, since soon you will have no choice.
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Vision Harry
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:58amYes, please allow me to elucidate. 1) Remove gun from bedside drawer. 2)Insert into shoulder holster.
3) Ignore all idiotic and unconstitutional mandates. 4) Travel where ever you please in these United States with the knowledge that you are protected.
Have a nice day
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:01pmDoes NY have state border patrols? Do you drive while drinking? Do you unnecessarily consent to car searches when you’re pulled over? If no to all of those, then what’s stopping you? The 2nd Amendment trumps state restrictions, just ask the 14th Amendment.
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carhouse
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:33pmYou all are 100% right,..but I have a family to support, and that is difficult to do from Jail while they sort out my future, so that is not really an option, I meant leagally.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 2:47pm@Carhouse
Police aren’t magic. They don’t know what you have in your car. If you don’t drive drunk, if you refuse to consent to warantless searches and you obey traffic laws, there is no way they can know. The problems people normally have is that they unwittingly consent to searches when pulled over. Learn not to do that, and who cares what they want to do.
That said, I appreciate that you have a family. But “going to jail” only happens if you’re actually doing something that either causes them to arrest you, or you consent (wrongly) to a search.
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hydtguy
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:08pmNO. I have a NYS CCW and Nassau county infringes on my right to carry by stamping on my CCW to and from range only. That said I have the NYS CCW, a FL. CCW, a PA CCW, and a NV CCW. I can carry in over 30 states, but not the one I live in and pay taxes to.
Welcome to Newyorkastan…..the second Coumounest state. ( CA. was the first,). Sad how the states that restrict your freedoms the most will be the ones to go broke first.
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Glock29
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 7:40amHere is a reciprocal map to show which states honor your states conceal carry license. Some states that do not honor them require you to lock the firearm in a lock box or trunk away from the ammo while you drive through their state like Maryland. They do not honor mine but I called the Maryland State Police and asked them what to do with my firearm before I enter their state and that is what they said would be legal while traveling across the country through their state…all other states I was to be in would allow me to carry on that trip conceal on my person. If I lived or had to deal with any of these draconian gun law states I would move so fast from that area it would make their head spin. If you do not want to move call the NY state police to ask them what you can do with your firearm while traveling through their state and if they allow you to secure it in a lock box buy a $200 bio-metric quick access car safe and keep it locked in your car while in NY. I would rather have it close by than sitting in CT if you do not wish to move.
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
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Glock29
Posted on February 23, 2013 at 8:04amJust to add one more thing I looked at your CT license and not many other states honor it. The states that require you take a 8 hour class with qualification test are honored by the majority states. I know some states that will just issue a pistol permit for CC with no training will not be covered by many other states.You should apply for the Arizona permit it will cover you more places than your CT permit.
In a earlier post GHOSTOFJEFFERSON wrote…
Also, on a related note. If you want a CHL and your state is full of crap and doesn’t/won’t issue you one despite the fact that you’re a law abiding decent person, apply to Arizona. They grant CHL’s to all Americans, period. If you’re former military, they will take your DD-214 as proof of competency. For $60.00 and a set of finger print cards you can have a CHL for when you’re outside of your tyrannical state, which is good in a huge number of states.
Contact them and they’ll send you an application packet. Worth the money if you live in Illinois, or Cali, or New York/East Coast.
Metro Phoenix: (602) 256-6280
Outside Metro Phoenix (In Arizona): (800) 256-6280
Fax: (602) 223-2928
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RodT82721
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:37amShall not infringe!
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 12:02pmexactly. The part the seems to be confusing for the law makers
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Mad Engineer
Posted on February 22, 2013 at 4:55pm@War
That is because Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the Commucrats did not jamb the 2nd Amendment thru Congress in order to be able to read it and see what was in the bill.
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