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Update: The Latest Complete List Of Gun Makers & Sellers Saying ‘No!’ To Law Enforcement In Anti-2nd Amendment States

Feb. 24, 2013 10:15pm Mike Opelka

As we mentioned in our story on Friday, momentum appears to be building in the movement that has gun makers (and a few gun retailers) rejecting business from law enforcement agencies in states where the Second Amendment is being compromised by gun control laws.

Atop the list of states with restrictive laws:

New York
California
Illinois
Hawaii

Some of the companies that reached out to us since Friday:

Latest Complete List Of Gun Makers & Sellers Saying No! To Law Enforcement In Anti 2nd Amendment States

Image: Climags

Arizona-based, high-capacity magazine distributor Climags – has a page that details the states with limits on the size of ammunition magazines. And the company’s “Frequently Asked Questions” (FAQ) page also has this statement:

Q. Why was my Order Cancelled?

A. Typically it is because the items you ordered are not legal in either the place where it is being shipped to or your billing address. Please double check our High Capacity Laws page. We do NOT make [exceptions] for Military or Law Enforcement, if you want possess these items please get involved with your local politics. If your order is cancelled you will be issued a refund and emailed a reason for the cancellation.

Jim Sirochman of American Spirit Arms posted a video on YouTube that says, “Count us in!”

A. Scott Mangels of Next Step Tactical sent his company’s statement:

Image: Next Step Tactical

The 2nd Amendment was created to secure the ability of the citizens of the United States to protect themselves from tyranny and oppression as well as for personal protection. It is Next Step Tactical’s policy to refuse the sale of our products and services to any organization or agency that is attempting to create an arms superiority over their citizenry and diminish the God given rights the U.S. Constitution Guarantees.

But it is not just sales to law enforcement that are at risk here. Jobs are also on the line. At least one Colorado company, Magpul, has warned that the shift in that state’s laws could force an entire company to leave the state. The cost in jobs would be substantial. And CEO Doug Smith is not kidding. Here’s the ad that Magpul has been running in local papers.

Image: Magpul Industries

Still missing from the list of manufacturers not selling to law enforcement, the big three — Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson.

As of Sunday night, we offer the latest, most complete list of gun manufacturers and retailers who are taking a stand and refusing to do business with state agencies in places where citizens are denied their full Second Amendment rights.

H/T – Sean Sorrentino of the NC Gun Blog

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Comments (119)

jimmymac1
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:07am
Well talk all you want to jbourne but I don’t see any Leo’s standing up for the laws. Many are not being inforced now unless you are white of course then he’ll yes the law is the law.

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- smghvacr
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 5:35am
  As a business owner i will not buy any product that is produced in any of these states,or do business with any company which is located in any state which infringes on the peoples god given rights….
  
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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:34am
  Where are the Ammo companies???????????
  Counting their billions in windfall profits?
  
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- cloudsofwar
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:55am
  where is COLT? are they so small now that nobody cares? or is it because they make guns for the military. and how about beretta? i guess they wont join because they also make guns for the military. but what if they did join and stoped making guns for the military until the GOV stop going after law abiding gun owners.
  
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- DeOppressoLiber
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:59am
  There are about 1.2 million federal, state. and local law enforcement personnel. The US military total strength is around 1.4 million. That means the government has around 2.4 million customers total.
  
  There are more than 2.4 million AR-15 owners in the civilian population
  
  There are more than 2.4 million weapon owners that take 7.62x51mm (NATO).
  
  There are more than 2.4 million weapon owners that take 9mm (NATO).
  
  I would do my homework, it does not look as if the big government contracts will carry the day.
  
  When the wars wind down the individual DOD branches will opt to buy high tech equipment and not individual equipment and ammunition, (please review DOD history post any war or conflict)
  
  I would recommend that the major gun companies and ammunition companies concentrate on the civilian population that owns guns, which is around 80 to 100 million people.
  
  Your customer base will be 40 to 50 times what the government contracts can give you.
  
  Ammunition companies if every gun owner purchased just one box of ammunition that is 80 million x 20 rounds which equals 1,600,000 000 rounds.
  
  Plus you will win the Moral High ground fight and than have loyal customers for generations, just like automobile and pickup truck companies.
  
  Don”t buy a gun from them son, they where against us and freedom.
  
  I would have all my retired military personnel who head the military sections of your companies do a COA development and a War game each COA very carefully
  
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- dcatkin
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:16am
  Good for them, why should they sell to the people who are trying to put them out of business. Isn’t it betgter to sell to the people who like your products and wnat to see your business thrive?
  
  Pro Second Amendment
  
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- LaTxGuy
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:44pm
  so where are the big boys as colt, remington, S&W, Kimber Ruger, just to mention a few!!!!
  
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- odin49420
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 4:08pm
  My wife and myself are large consumers in this area and though it will be hard,we will only do biz with these companies on this list. We applaude you, and hope to see the list grow. Remember…smith &wesson sold us out once allready.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 4:40pm
  Has the gray house responded yet or has anyone asked jay carney about this infraction? Lol. They must be freaking out.
  
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- kenboo1
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:18pm
  I still don’t see glock, remington, ruger, dpms, sig saur, winchester, beretta, and other high volume producers… If we all come together and get this done, it will make it better for us all…
  
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- PPAllstar
  Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:58pm
  Gotta get the big three on board. I’ve been emailing Sig Sauer @ publicsafetysales@sigsauer.com however my emails bounce after about 24hrs, there are no other email addressed listed on their site. Sig Sauer uses a firstname.lastname@sigsauer.com email protocol best I can find. I was able to find a couple of important sounding Sig Rep’s names on the internets… Ron Cohen(CEO), Bud Fini(VP/GM), Amy Pevear(Marketing MGR), Tim Scullin(CFO). Email them! My emails to them have not bounced, but I have not received a response either.
  
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SilentReader
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:01am
Right on! Thanks for sticking up for the 2nd Amendment! Without the 2nd Amendment there can be no 1st Amendment!

Before every genocide in history the fascist and Nazi Controllers disarmed their citizens!

Read Death by Government by R. J. Rummel. This will open your eyes to what governments can do to you if you are not armed and ready to defend yourself. An excerpt:

~One eleven-year old Srbian Orthodox firl was captured while her family escaped to Belgrade and taken to the Jasenovac camp. The first days our heroine passed in the camp were terrifying. No water, no shelter, no bed, no roof. she was obliged to sleep in the rain on the snow. At first she still possessed her own clothes, bu these, the Ushashi took. Without clothes and famished, she began her descent into the hell beyond Dante’s dreams. The saily “Our Father” was replaced by the formula: give us our daily beating. This child one day attended a cruel spectacle. Forty students were smothered and then burnt. Another time, the Ustashi drove a hot iron rod into a man’s head. Sometimes women were quartered, and to vary the spectacle, arms instead of legs, were torn off. There were, of course, other diversions for the Ustashi. The best of these diversions consisted of gouging out the eyes of the dying so as to make a “beautiful” collection of how the dying look. Sometimes, for a change, the Ustashi made a sort of trestle with red hot iron, and forced the children to sit on it astride.

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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:55am
  Time to email Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson.
  
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- smghvacr
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 5:43am
  Just refuse to buy Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson untill they will join the list.
  
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- wink1026
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:39pm
  I take it, these were mussie doing the killing.The one’s the Gov. now states they are of peace. It’s not a religion, it’s a Government, and the only good one is a de## one.
  
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kcsparky
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:31am
Issue whistles!! According to progressive, socialistic, liberal Demorat politicians, whistles are more effective against armed attackers. Trust them…….they know better than the rest of us. Just ask them!

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Chancellor
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:20am
Now if we could get this to spread to other companies. Trucking, Rail, Electronics and so on. Get all the people to start rising up and shut them down.

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- LicketySplit
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:39pm
  Where the heck is Ruger? Casull? Remington? Winchester? We need some of the heavyweights in the industry to smack these states in the face. Colt…Armalite…where are you boys?
  
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Made_in_the_USA
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:12am
I’ve sent thank you emails to about 50 companies, including most of the ones on this list. I’ve also sent emails to about 20 firearms, ammunition, and accessory companies, as well as several large retailers asking them to join the movement. Haven’t heard back from any of them yet. I’m real surprised none of the ammo manufacturers have signed up yet. Probably stuck in a gov’t contract or being bought out. As of the other day, one of george soros’ companies, The Freedom Group, was reportedly buying Marlin and several other companies, just to shut them down. bHo has his new home almost built, a bunker under the West Wing driveway. I don’t like huffington post, but check out this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/white-house-big-dig-remai_n_1877484.html

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Budhaf
Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:02am
Join the NRA and help fight congress. It’s not just manufactures who need to be in the game. $300 for a lifetime membership (usually $1,000). Call the NRA at 888-678-7894 before the end of February.

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- right-wing-waco
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:38am
  Our goal must be to replace the present Marxists in Congress with true patriots this next election cycle. In the mean time we keep fighting these people in Congress & government.
  
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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:29am
  I would like see the NRA pressure the industry to do their part. Ammo companies could put up millions for legal actions with the windfall profits they have made…… The NRA has been out to lunch on this because they want their advertising dollars. Until then, I wouldn’t give the NRA a dime.
  
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- machgun
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:37am
  Sorry the NRA is way too stupid to spend my money when the spokesman Marion Hammer told me its unconstitutional for a state to nullify a federal law that infringes on her citizens Constitutional rights. That is what happens when you break the Constitution in parts instead of view it as a whole. If they viewed it as a whole maybe old Marion would notice the 9th and 10th amendments to the Constitution.
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:33pm
  Join the Second Amendment Foundation…they do not turn and run from States like NJ,NY,CA, MD, or IL
  
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Budhaf
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:53pm
You can join the NRA with a lifetime membership for $300 until the end of February, thanks to Tom Gresham of Gun Talk (www.guntalk.com). The usual price is $1,000. Just call the NRA at 888-678-7894.

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- jlightning1
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:07am
  How about AMMO suppliers too? Cut em off. Let em make their own. Take the supply that goes to New York Law enforcement and sell directly to the non-law enforcement citizens only.. Let New York officials beg for ammo from Pennsylvania just like the citizens gun owners in New York..
  
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:49pm
As a truck driver, we were always aware that if we parked our trucks to protest something like wages or a lack of fuel surcharges, a scab would always jump in to take the load, where we wouldn’t. But, when a scab was outed, he’d soon find himself with a bad reputation and unable to find good work.

I hope that when the dust settles, we all remember the manufacturers that were on the side of the PEOPLE, and those that sided with the government, in the name of profit.

I hope that manufacturers like Glock and S&W make their positions known, very soon. I will remember which side they were on.

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- Rogue
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:03am
  I hope decisions are made soon, but I’d be willing to bet their legal departments told them to stay quiet and let this blow over. All these large manufacturers have been getting emails, letters, calls and faxes for over two weeks now, and they simply ignore all requests.
  
  They should know better after seeing S&W experience a 40% drop in sales after signing on with Bill Clinton during the last AWB. Gun owners have LONG memories, and are very loyal to their bands.. as long as the brand stays loyal to them.
  
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warhorse_03826
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:44pm
I notice H-S Precision, who employs Lon Horiuchi, is not on the list.

I wonder why. maybe….nah. couldn’t be…..

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- Havok
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:17am
  HAHA!
  I didnt know that he worked there. Now I will avoid that company at all costs.
  
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heidihoneighbor
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:42pm
II order from some of these companies and i couldnt be more happy to know im spending my money in places that support America and our 2nd amendment

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Listen_then_think
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:34pm
Stop buying any Sig, Glock, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Colt, and buy from the little guys until the big name guys get on board. Hit them where it hurts, sales.

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- jlightning1
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:59pm
  Better yet cancel any orders already placed and tell these slow thinkers why..!!!! Hey Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson.. Can you hear us yet? Looks like the list is growing I suggest that the last of the big guys to get in line be known forever as “COWARD GUN” My bets on Glock to come in last I have my reasons… And Smith & Wesson, I am ashamed of you guys I thought you would be one of the first.. We will never forget !!!!! Shame on all of you sellouts !!!!!
  
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AmericaMustBeFree
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:24pm
I salute everyone of these gun makers! Thank you! Now lets watch them squirm.. what you will see is the law breaking the law.. by going out of state to buy their weapons! They’ll find a way to do it! But I still love what these companies are doing to help our 2nd Amendment rights!

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CrismaFire
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:21pm
I really hope Obama tries to take our guns. Let the war begin. We can stop all the stupidity and get America back on track after we hang him for Treason.

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- the gray lensman
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 1:56am
  I like your viewpoint. For the record, I’m in the San Fran Sicko Bay Area. The odds against me are probably 100 to 1, if and when they come. Pro Dei et Patria.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:28am
  Lensman
  
  Good latin qoute.
  
  I really like: Dolce et decorum est, pro patria mori.
  
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- texastommy
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:37am
  San Fran Sicko — LOL!!!!! Just spit coffee on my keyboard.
  
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- ganelon
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:13pm
  it’s a shame we are no longer allowed to have the same weapons as the millitary. iif we could, i think we would see a mushroom glowing over washington.
  
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Wiley41
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:16pm
Come on Sig Saur do the right thing

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- Hyperion5182
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:22pm
  With Beretta stepping up, and facebook information out there concerning Private Maker Red Jacket Firearms (which has i believe at least one BIG govt contract.) I think it may be only a matter of time before a very BIG movement is underway by the gun manufacturers. If anyone can get a public statement from red jacket on what i’ve heard is real or not (them joining the boycott) please say so. They’re a real Symbol at this point.
  
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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 7:45am
  what about ?
  Aguila Ammo
  Armscor Ammo
  ATK Ammo
  Barnes Ammo
  BlackGun Ammo (BGA)
  Blazer Ammo
  Blazer Brass Ammo
  Brown Bear Ammo
  CCI Ammo
  Centurion Ammo
  Federal Ammo
  Fiocchi Ammo
  Golden Bear Ammo
  Golden Tiger Ammo
  Hornady Ammo
  Lake City Ammo
  Magtech Ammo
  Military Ballistic Industries (MBI) Ammo
  PCI Ammo
  PMC Ammo
  Prvi Partizan Ammo
  Remington Ammo
  Rio Royal Ammo
  Sellier & Bellot Ammo
  Speer Ammo
  Tula Ammo
  Ultramax Ammo
  Ulyanovsk Ammo
  Winchester Ammo
  Wolf Ammo
  Zero Bullet Ammo
  
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SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:14pm
Bravo and kudos to them all but its not enough. The ammo makers are missing from this, we NEED them to get on board otherwise this is all just a shell game.

Please if you are involved in making calls. writing letters etc to gun makers STOP! Redirect your efforts to the ammunition makers!! Guns in your hands or theirs are useless without ammo! The ammo makers are the key to this whole thing!

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- Made_in_the_USA
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:19am
  You’re absolutely correct. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy a bag of rocks. I’ve advised several people to only buy a firearm if they can buy at least a small supply of ammo at the same time. I’ve contacted several ammo makers and haven’t heard back, but they need to get involved asap!
  
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HaroldHeard
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:01pm
You will need to add http://www.KMHArms.com to this list

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old-sarge
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:51pm
Boycott the arms manufactures such as Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson that are still willing to sell to restrictive state and Federal Agencies.

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- grimmster
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:14pm
  Old-sarge, you do know these manufacturers have contracts to fulfull,and it would cost them a **** load of money to break them dont you?……
  
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- Rogue
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:52pm
  I would be fine with them fulfilling any current contracts – you can’t break them without serious legal issues most likely anyway. But, at the very least, I would expect them to come out and declare that any NEW contracts will not include any banned items in banned states – no law enforcement exemptions.
  
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- sootsme
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 4:38pm
  Grimmster,
  (I hate that I can only reply to first post in a thread rather than to each individual post) Wouldn’t selling to lawbreakers constitute conspiracy? Wouldn’t this be a valid reason to not honor what could arguably be considered an illegal contract? I’m sure the leftists would handle it that way if it was in their interests. On the other hand, “Conservatives” are well known for bringing pillows to gunfights…
  
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banjarmon
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:40pm
It is nice to have like minded Americans join the list…there should be thousands more because of their rights and the jobs are on the line!!!

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TOOLFREEK
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:34pm
I appreciate what they’re doing, but if they really want to “take care of us”, they (meaning everyone in the business) should not be gouging the prices like they are. Every rifle I have looked at has gone up in price at least 70%, and ammunition has skyrocketed! I understand capitalism but sheesh! I’m already taking it at the gas pump! :-)

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- RandomOne
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:48pm
  Last time I checked Aluminum and Steel billets are not free and gun manufactures have to pay to ship them. They burn fuel to produce the metal then they burn fuel to ship the billets. Inflation swamps all boats. If you don’t like the price or think they can be made cheaper, do it yourself. That is the American Spirit.
  
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- Eleutheria
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:07pm
  The idea of price gouging is purely Marxist in nature.
  
  I assume you’ve heard of the law of supply and demand?
  
  When demand goes up or supply goes down, price goes up.
  
  You should have bought a weapon sooner.
  
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- DoOrDie
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:13pm
  The law of supply and demand. Don’t forget the government purchased 1.2 billion rounds recently. That helped skyrocket prices also. All part of Obama’s plan to drive the costs up to where people can’t afford it. If he can’t take our guns, he will find a way to make it impossible for citizens to purchase ammo.
  
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- fastway
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:17pm
  I agree! This is not inflation, its price gouging plain and simple. Guns have increased more when the gun debate started.
  
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- Farmhand82
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:16am
  Guns may have increased some but demand has almost doubled. There’s a waiting list for a lot of weapons and my local tactical firearms dealer’s shelves are nearly bare. I’m with the guys saying supply and demand. Prices are determined by market value aka what people are willing to pay for them. You really don’t want to go down the road of price setting and regulations.
  
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- Eleutheria
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 6:55am
  If you use contrived terms like “living wage”, “fair share”, or “price gouging”, you’re a Marxist.
  
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SUNTZU
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:32pm
Obo
SS to be issued
1 Chinese sks With mag-block 4 rds.
1 Russian Markov 9mm 2 mags 7 rds ea.
1 made in japan,bamboo vest
1 Chevy Volt
1 rubbermaid coffin as needed

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MTSchmidt
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:31pm
Everyone needs to be emailing and calling Glock, Sig Sauer and Smith & Wesson. You need to tell them that they are either for the people or will go out of business and that the very ammunition and weaponry they are giving to the government is going to be the tool that will oppress us.

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DefyTYRANNY
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:28pm
Kudos to the additional companies.

A warning from Pravda on the US 2nd amendment. These people know the consequences of a disarmed populace.

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/02/5219-a-plea-from-russia-americans-never-give-up-your-guns/

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aproudinfidel
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:16pm
While I appreciate the sentiments these companies are expressing, I’m not sure that our LE guys need to be punished this way.

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- qpwillie
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:24pm
  Then they’d better be raising hell with their law makers to cut the crap.
  
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- PatriotSunDevil
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:28pm
  If they support a tyrannical state government, are they not the enemy? Why support the enemy unless you have a desire to be destroyed? Just think about it.
  
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- DefyTYRANNY
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:29pm
  One set of laws for the governing and the governed. Neither should the Citizenry be “punished” sir.
  
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- phrogdriver
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:36pm
  Like the New York cops who charged the Army vet with a felony for having “high capacity” magazines? They should be able to have high capacity mags, but charge a law abiding citizen with a freakin’ felony?
  
  Screw them.
  
  They want to be able to defend their own lives, but will enforce laws that will prevent ME from defending mine. I have no sympathy.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:47pm
  I want the best for our law Enforcement
  and Military
  However I’v seen the blue flu work before
  The equipment they have will work for now
  And if they use the law.lock up the commies,
  this should not last long.
  Remember
  We The People are the government,
  We are the Boss
  And WE out number them
  
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- CloudNine
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:57pm
  QPWillie said it right. Not our problem, if they are concerned, bring up with their local representatives. No more pandering and wining about. Time to is here to draw a line… period!
  
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- Eleutheria
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:11pm
  LEOs are the wrenches in the hands of gun control advocates.
  
  Just like the TSA, ATF and DHS, they are the new Gestapo.
  
  As long as their labor isn’t compulsory, they can piss up a flagpole for all I care.
  
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- Chancellor
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:16am
  Yea well tell that to the State Police in NY. Como’s private army running around doing unlawful searches for guns and ammo.
  
  Not a single one of the State boys came out against an unconstitutional law. They deserve to be left hanging with the criminals they support! They are not LEO’s they are Criminals!
  
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- jbourneidentity
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 12:31am
  Thank you for saying this. I’m not quite sure why everyone is so happy that gun companies are not selling to police officers in blue states. I don’t know what cops have to do with this battle. Most cops I know are STRONGLY in favor of civilian gun ownership, including “assault rifles.” There is a kindred spirit there. I’m a cop, Second Amendment activist, NRA member, Arkansas concealed handgun instructor, and I have been involved in state level politics in support of “armed educator” legislation. Cops are some of the biggest gun rights supporters in the nation, in case you’ve missed that on the news lately. If you want to support doing something worthwhile, ban Democrats from owning guns. Call them out for their hypocrisy. Punish them, not cops. Democrats are the ones taking away your rights, not the police. If I were ordered tomorrow to go house-to-house to confiscate guns, I would quit and go to work doing something else. If you want to do the right thing, find out exactly why DHS has bought up all the ammo and call your representatives. Call the White House. Jam the lines. Fight the good fight, but I assure you, your fight is not with the cops or Glock, or S&W, or Sig Sauer because they keep selling guns to cops. Your fight is with liberal, progressive Democrats who are treating you all like criminals. I can promise you, if the day when they try to disarm you all, the police will not do participate. They will stand shoulder to shoulder with you.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:07am
  Then they need to vote the conscience and not follow the union lemmings.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:50am
  They do need to be punished. LEOs are not elites, they are not a higher class of citizen to which exceptions are afforded. If they don’t like it, they can move out of that state or get involved and change the laws. They should not have anything we cannot have.
  
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civilwarcometh
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:10pm
This is great news hope they all join in.. And i like the way this guy operates this is classic.. http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/24/ted-cruz-mocks-msnbc-for-feigning-outrage-over-his-comments-on-marxists-in-harvard-law/

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gyro
Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:08pm
Money talks so best of luck with this !

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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:15pm
  Gyro:
  When these companies are restricted on selling their products on the open market in these states, not selling to law enforcement is a small percentage in comparison. So, in the long run, if they can break this impass, they stand to make a lot more money in the long run. And when you look at the Law Enforcement percentage of weapons bought, it relates only to about 15% of total sales.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:31pm
  hi – Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra (Picard and Dathon… at El-Adrel)
  They are small companys in general and local sales to local goverments will hurt them
  It is the big 3 –Glock, Sig Sauer, and Smith & Wesson. I was refuring to more watch were they stand to see if this will work
  greed trumps ethics most times
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  What was the quote from Prometheus
  Big Things Have Small Beginnings
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:35pm
  DARMOK, Even that 15% covers more training ammo than weapons or maintenance parts. We used to burn through loads of it almost on a monthly basis.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:46pm
  That’s true Gyro, hopefully this stand does start to sink in and will make an impact. I actually think when companies like Remington decide to move to other states that aren’t restrictive, that is when it will start hurting these states. I for one, am doing what I can in my state of Colorado, the Dumbo Crats think they have the muscle to push these stupid laws, they will find out next year when they get swept out. Currently they have a 2 seat majority, and there are 6 highly contested seats open, I see them losing everyone of those and Hickenlooper getting booted. The libs in Denver and Boulder have enraged the rest of the state, and if these other states start waking up, they really will face a firestorm.
  
  But then again, the eastern states have made their beds, now they can burn in them.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on February 24, 2013 at 10:55pm
  RJJ, when the cops can’t buy ammo anymore, I wonder how long it will be until their union attacks the Laws. Probably never, but there is always hope.
  
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