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From Anarchy to Totalitarianism: Do You Know the Real Political Spectrum?

Feb. 25, 2013 8:30pm

Last week, newly elected Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said a new party has to be started. On his Monday evening broadcast, Beck agreed that Democrats and Republicans are essentially the same today, but that even the GOP has lost its principles.

Beck came to Cruz’s defense after the newly elected senator came under fire for remarking that President Obama is the most “radical” president in history.

The real political spectrum, according to Beck, is not about just left and right or Democrat and Republican, but rather about people who value freedom and those who do not. Or, in the more literal sense, a range spanning from anarchy to totalitarianism.

Beck then took some very prominent lawmakers and politicos — from House Speaker John Boehner to Van Jones — to task and explained where each falls on the political spectrum. The findings, interestingly enough, might surprise you. Most people tend to be center-right, the danger, according to Beck, always falls on either side of the extreme right or left.

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  • The Big Mick
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:26pm

    Which is why I deny Glenn’s assertion that “Anarchy” is “dangerous”.
    Jefferson says “that government governs best that governs least.” What is “least”? NOT AT ALL!
    The BEST government is NO Government or as CLOSE as you can GET to it!
    Taking Glenn’s “Tent” at Face Value, the BILL of RIGHTS says pretty much “Government is NOT ALLOWED to mess with ANY of this!” If you look carefully that means THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING the Government IS allowed to do.
    The Founders MEANT it to ONLY be allowed to do 2 Things. 1. Provide a Common, Level, Playing Field for Free Markets AMONG the States. Things like Weighs, and Measures ONLY! 2. To provide for Marshal Matt Dillon of “Gunsmoke” who hangs Horse Thieves—domestic ones like Madoff, foreign ones like Bin Laden.
    That’s IT. Common measurement, Rope, Bullets, and Horseshoes for Matt. NOTHING else!
    I find L.Neil Smith’s Libertarian Utopia “The North American Confederacy” Novels infinitely more tolerable than OUR mess. My own position is Theistic Anarchy and its Models are Smith and the Books of Joshua and Judges.

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:46pm

      You need some medication. Your ramblings are in coherent.

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:57pm

      Where the heck ave you been Mick…….Glen has been explaining this for years and hopefully he will continue to do so as he gets new subscribers and continually refreshes the memories of us long time friends of his. Try to think past the first knee jerk level.

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    • The Big Mick
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:57pm

      You got a rebuttal, trot it out.
      Again I quote Samuel Johnson: “I have found you an argument, sir, I’m not obliged to furnish you an understanding.”
      If you don’t understand a point, ASK me.
      If it is meaningless to you IGNORE it, YOU DON’T HAVE TO READ EVERY POST, UBE.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 12:58am

      Conservatives closer to anarchy? TOTAL FAIL, Glenn! Anarchists split ways with the Marxists because they wanted stateless communism (lower-case c). In the words of a Marxist: http://www.connexions.org/RedMenace/Docs/RM3-BakuninvsMarx.htm

      I have nothing in common with an anarchist, whether he calls himself a libertarian, an OWSer, or some other kind of leftie. It’s up to you, Glenn, if you want to sing kumbaya with the RP crowd (methinks it’s too little too late), but I refuse to compromise with people who quote the Constitution but shun the God behind it.

      “The hallmark of a libertarian is the belief that the primary function of government is to protect individual liberties.” That’s a pretty accurate description of RP Libertarian ideology, given by TRANCE on another thread. Liberals, in turn, believe it is to protect the collective good. As a conservative, I believe it’s to protect our nation’s God-given freedom.

      Liberals are govt-centered, libertarians are self-centered and conservatives are God/values-centered. Who’s the odd man out? Clearly, it’s us conservatives, and clearly it’s a sign of the times. So, sorry, Glenn, I draw the line thusly: Anyone who wants to redefine this great nation’s foundational values is a traitor.

      BTW, what’s wrong with a right vs. left paradigm? Jesus used it. KISS.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 1:39am

      In your hero’s own words, Glenn:

      “No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States. Every step, by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation, seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency…. [T]here is no truth more thoroughly established, than that there exists in the economy and course of nature, an INDISSOLUBLE UNION BETWEEN VIRTUE AND HAPPINESS, between duty and advantage, between the genuine maxims of an honest and magnanimous policy, and the solid rewards of public prosperity and felicity…. [W]e ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven, can never be expected on a nation that disregards the ETERNAL RULES OF ORDER AND RIGHT, which Heaven itself has ordained…” (from Washington’s First Inaugural Address, 1789) [emphasis added]

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    • Palter
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 4:27am

      Some years ago, Jon Stewart draw a political spectrum and put Glenn and his pseudo historian David Barton in Theocracy wagon…. together with Khomeini. A real libertarian would not push any religious agenda in politics nor to the citizens.

      In order to ensure this freedom of and from religion, we must have a complete separation of church and state. A limited government, with no ability to legislate morality, is essential if citizens are free to practice their religion. The government has no role in funding, supporting, or regulating issues on based on religious grounds.

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    • softunderbelly
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 5:12am

      Mick, I understand perfectly what you’re saying. The only disagreement is in “that governs least”. I agree that national defense and the interstate commerce clause (in its’ original intent) regarding the weights and measures issue as well as duties on products imported from another US state are key. But how would you fit in the Interstate Highway System (let’s say)? After all, it was built under the National Defense Act in the 1950s. Or could it be built under the commerce clause as not having a highway system running through your state would be a tremendous disadvantage. As I said, I agree with you but would be concerned about the degree.

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    • naughtycal
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 8:14am

      Mick anarchy is the total absents of government and it would only work if everyones ahd a strong moral compass. Clue you in THEY DON’T. Jefferson saw government as a necessary evil thus the need for strong law to tie it’s hands and keep the people rule in place.
      However our government untied its hands and has been slowly increasing in absolute power for the last hundred years. Our media is complissed in these actions. We are at the edge of freedom pushed back so far that one more move will kill freedom all together. Libertys torch is dead and cold and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I have a feeling history will write of these days as the dark ages of liberty in America. And the rise of the tyrant that is government will give birth to the next revolution the generation of founders the next chapter in the battle for freedom from government.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 11:41am

      Anarchism has never worked my friend, because in any social revolution the anarchists are easily defeated by the better organized socialists/communists. A weak confederation of people has no chance against a professional army.

      Through the dark ages in Europe, people banded together behind stone walls for fear of the enemies that they could not hope to face alone. The same principal of stand together or die alone is the reason why the articles of confederation failed leading to the drafting of our constitution.

      Those that wish to exert their will on others are always ready to band together to impose their unjust rule on the weak. Anarchy is not strong enough to stand against totalitarianism.

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    • Bearcatnation
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 2:25pm

      I would argue that a government that doesn’t govern is not a government, therefore “no government” can not be the best government because it’s not a government. Anarchy is dangerous. What Glenn is missing is that the political spectrum is a circle at 11 o’clock you have anarch at 1 o’clock you have totalitarianism. Out of chaos strong men arise. Our constitution put us at about 9 o’clock. We are some where between 6 o’clock and 3 o’clock now. ( I only use the clock to give you a visual of where I believe things are.) to the conservatives, why are you always calling us leftists? Have you seen the left lately? They operate your foreign policy. They operate your domestic/civil law policies, You guys have gotten closer to the socialists then we could have ever gotten. Their is a reason thy burned our chair and left yours…..

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    • faithkills
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 5:23pm

      There are two traditions of anarchy.

      There is collectivist anarchism, an example is anarcho-socialism. Colors black or red/black.

      There is individualist anarchism, an example is anarcho-capitalism colors gold/black.

      They are on extreme opposite ends of this spectrum. Collectivist anarchism is aligned with communism & fascism though they will deny it.

      Individualist anarchism is aligned with the classical liberalism of Jefferson, though they consider Jefferson to be weaksauce.

      Left anarchism criticizes right anarchism for not being true anarchism because they equate the free market with having a ruler since the market can create unequal wealth. Wealth gives social advantage creating masters and slaves ie hierarchy. As someone richer than you has more influence, you are a slave to them one degree or another. Hierarchy must end & it’s main cause is capital disparity. True freedom requires equality claim left anarchists.

      Right anarchism criticizes left anarchism for needing to create a state to eliminate the things they deem objectionable, like people acting freely in markets. The only way to correct for a social advantage arising from capital is by force. They may not call it a state, but legitimized forcible coercion is a state by definition, claim right anarchists.

      Right anarchists are radical free marketeers and reject aggression in all cases.

      Left anarchists are radical anti-hierarchy of any kind, and embrace aggression but, in theory, only when used

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    • kadster01
      Posted on February 27, 2013 at 8:42am

      You keep at it, Glenn. If you’re looking hopefully at anyone in politics, I fear you will wear yourself out dumping buckets of water over the side of a sinking boat. As for myself, I’m focused on defense and stockpiling what I need to survive. I don’t think there’s any way out but through.

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    • RoseAmerica
      Posted on March 5, 2013 at 3:24pm

      Thanks. In retrospect now that we have slipped this far from sane overseeing of government and have really embraced the communist piggy, we might all be longing for the demise of the beast.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:17pm

    also consider that 3 years ago, there was no rand paul or ted cruz…..there as only ron paul on that left side of the spectrum……

    progress

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  • DLV
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:16pm

    Awesome job Glenn! You’re bringing me back to those days on Fox when I came home from high school at 5 pm to watch you. This is the stuff I like.

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  • The Big Mick
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:54pm

    These are the times Glenn begins to lose my respect. Sometimes he talks like he’s just getting this.
    GEESH, he’s read F. Hayek, he’s KNOWN this for years now. L.Neil Smith and other Libertarian authors said the same in the 80s. Tom Wolfe, in the millennial issue of Time pointed out that Hitler and Stalin were Fraternal, if Fratricidal, Collectivist Statist TWINS!
    I’ve been saying this for over a DECADE and a half! DUH!

    Ain’t no sucha thing as “left” and “right”, it’s a Linear Political Spectrum Model that Hayek trashed in the 40s! Get an UPGRADE, people! READ L.Neil Smith—I visualize his Libertarian Utopia Model as a kind of cone with Radical Personal Liberty–what Glenn falsely defines as “dangerous”, at the Apex and various Flavors of Totalitarianism around the bottom rim*.
    That’s why I won’t USE the “terminological inexactitudes” “left” or “liberal” or “progressive”. YES, GLENN, THEY SIMPLY REBRAND! That’s why I call them COMMIEQUEERS! They have an Unnatural Love for a Dead Economic System off the Ashheap of History and a Common Agenda of Pushing Perversion.
    cont.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:14pm

      It reminds me of Limbaugh ACTING like a duped sucker, after he bullies everyone to vote for (fill in the blank) LEFTIST republican, then (fill in the blank) LEFTIST republican INEVITABLY LEGISLATES LEFTIST! After DECADES of voting cycles and the SAME REPLAYED LIMBAUGH “disappointed and confused” SCRIPT… it just don’t work anymore.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:15pm

      Mick- I have to say. Your little speeches here are EXTREMELY hard to follow. It’s not even as if you can’t speak English but it’s just the way you put sentences together just kills my head which is why I have no idea why you have an issue with Glenn here. He got it right. It’s not left vs right, commies versus fascists. It’s anarchy versus totalitarianism the true political chart and everything in between. Glenn was spot on.

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    • The Big Mick
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:17pm

      *As to those various flavors of Totalitarianism, they range from Despotic Monarchy to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and Sodem, to “The Dictatorship of the Proletariat to the “One vote over 50%”.
      I don’t see “democracy” as much less Totalitarian than Despotism or Oligarchy.
      Glenn CLAIMS he’s with The Founders. THEY are the ones who said “to secure these [God Endowed, Unalienable, Individual] Rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers [ALL others are ILLEGITIMATE!] from the CONSENT of the governed,” and “when ANY form of government becomes destructive to these ends [the SOLE ends of SECURING said God Endowed, Unalienable Individual Rights SOLEY by the CONSENT of the Governed] it is the RIGHT of the People [don’t say how many and the Founders themselves were a 1/3 MINORITY] to ALTER or ABOLISH it and to institute NEW Government.”
      There is NO authority, legitimacy, or JUSTice in the One Vote over 50%. Or in a SUPER Majority.
      There is ONLY legitimacy in FREE CONSENT from “The People” and THAT, by the example of the Founders themselves can be as FEW as 1/3—or LESS I would argue.
      The Founders conclude when ANY government, even the 51% “majority” becomes Tyrannous, “it is their [“the people”--one third or LESS] RIGHT it is their DUTY to THROW OFF SUCH GOVERNMENT!”

      Cont.

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:22pm

      Democracy is a comfy deck chair on the Titanic

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    • The Big Mick
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:35pm

      DLV.
      My style is my style. It emphasizes a conversational approach with word emphasis to suggest intonation. If you don’t understand me, ask what I mean.
      As Samuel Johnson once said: “I have found you an argument, sir, I am not obliged to furnish understanding.”
      My point is I lose respect over Glenn for two reasons. 1. HE’s LATE to the PARTY!
      2. He’s a WOOSY on Anarchism.
      I have a third reason and that is his newly acquired Jesus/Gandhi Pacifism as a response to Tyranny.
      I believe the Proper Response, the THEOLOGICAL response to Tyrants is to KILL them.
      But that reason is not germane here.
      The other two are.
      YES, Glenn IS right, just all fired LONG at GETTING to it, and WRONG about which PART of it is the ANSWER and WRONG about how to bring it about.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:46pm

      Big Mick- You say you are somewhat of an anarchist, I don’t see how in any scenario anarchy would work. Do you really have so much faith in humans to trust them with no laws and to just live and let live mentality, no country, no government. That just seems like suicide.

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    • gryffn
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 8:38pm

      Have you forgotten that Glenn is also talking to new viewers?

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:39pm

    AS Long as that much money is involved in politics,”We The People” will just be “Us Sheep.”
    Pharmaceutical Companies support Republicans. We get mass drug testing and even Rick Perry forces 10 year old girls to take a HPV Vaccine so that they can enjoy sex.
    Then We have Monsanto and GE on the Other Side with Huge inheritance taxes so the IRS can seize family farms to sell to Monsanto and make Light Bulb Laws.
    BOTH sides support TSA,Revenue Generating Police State Check Points and Homeland Security and want us to get used to having our 2nd,4th,and 5th amendment rights violated.
    I am even willing to bet that Sen. Ted Cruz supports anti-4th and 5th amendment laws.
    AS Long as we have folks like Bill O’Rielly who supports violating the rights of “Those People” and folks like Janet Napolitano who supports violating the rights of ‘Necks and Nascar” fans,there will be no common ground on rights.
    Folks who are for rights are up against a Big Communist Media machine.

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  • Brother Winston Smith
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:33pm

    Beck LIE #11:
    “I disagree with Ron Paul on many things.” Notice how Beck DID NOT ARTICULATE EXACTLY WHAT? He KNOWS, as soon as he attempts “reasons”… HE IS PROVEN A LIAR AND A CONSTITUTION-SHREDDER!

    Beck LIE #12:
    “I agree with him on a lot of things.” NO YOU DON’T!!!!!!! Beck’s CLUMSY RHETORIC may “agree,” BUT AGAIN, HIS ACTIONS DO NOT! Beck has BULLIED naive Americans into supporting LEFTIST REPUBLICANS!!!! LEFTIST!!!! Over and over and over!

    Beck LIE #13:
    “…but there’s a subsection…” Beck is describing ME! ME! I am a Constitutional Libertarian Tea Partying “Paulbot” WHO WILL CALL OUT HIS DAMN LIES! I WILL NOT BE CORRALLED, LIKE THE OTHER CATTLE! I also DO NOT FALL FOR HIS “better” evil MANIPULATION. So, to troubleshoot, he will SMEAR me, MY INTEGRITY AND MY FAITH as THREATS TO ANY “SUCCESS.”

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:56pm

      Oh Jeez here we go again. By your logic, since Glenn is just an evil evil man, who can do no right and just lies all the time, well considering you’re human and you screw up, Jesus shouldn’t accept you because you are a sinner. I’ll keep this in mind BWS.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:10pm

      DLV
      BWS is a purist. that is not the same as extremist. Think of BWS posts like the 10 commandments….Something we should reflect upon because they are true – and we will be better off in the long run if we try to stick to them

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:15pm

      BWS

      you are Fascist, an intolerant ideologue, YOU are the problem

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:19pm

      I suppose soy. The biggest problem I have with him is how little wiggle room he has with differing opinions. It’s as if everyone’s opinion doesn’t match up 100 percent with Ron Paul, then they’re a bunch of commies which couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m almost positive Jesus would not share 100 percent of his views. Would BWS throw him under the bus? I personally would not be surprised.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:31pm

      Dont worry DLV – i am sure your sentiments are echoed by the majority of people around here. That is why BWS is here

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:46pm

      Soy- So what… he balances it out? lol

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:55pm

      yes DLV – good point. He brings balance to the force!

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:57pm

      DLV DISSECTED

      PROPAGANDA:
      “how little wiggle room he has with differing opinions.”
      PROPAGANDA OBJECTIVE:
      Republicans are sellouts with very little self-respect. Hence, they HATE people who DO have self-respect and integrity. So they will FALSELY POSITION integrity as being a FLAW. They will also FALSELY describe lies… as “differing opinion.” Differing opinions are the bedrock of our decentralized government… but LIES are bringing it’s demise.

      LIE:
      “It’s as if everyone’s opinion doesn’t match up 100 percent with Ron Paul”
      TRUTH:
      This is the same propaganda Beck attempted in the vid above. Lying about Ron Paul… while SUPPORTING wildly LEFTIST Romney… IS NOT… IS NOT “not 100% agreement with Paul.” IT’S THE EXACT OPPOSITE! It’s ZERO AGREEMENT! And it reelected King Soetoro.

      VAGUE:
      “commies”
      ACCURATE:
      I prefer Unconstitutional Central Government Planners. This ACCURATELY describes Beck, republicans and democrats.

      GIBBERISH:
      “I’m almost positive Jesus would not share 100 percent of his views. Would BWS throw him under the bus? I personally would not be surprised.”
      TRUTH:
      I CANNOT “agree” with Jesus (purity), which is the exact reason he was put on the cross. Good news! The Savior can also cleanse a republican’s COWARDLY, FAITHLESS votes for evil… if one chooses to repent.

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:59pm

      he works against his own interests,,, and MINE

      it takes a level of maturity to accept what you can achieve instead of 100% of what you want… idealism

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 1:19am

      BWS- At the very most you can say I’m ignorant, but I’m not “lying” by any stretch. Lying is the deliberate intention to deceive. I thouroughly believe this.

      so tell me BWS- if I disagree with RPs foreign policy am I now a commie or unconstitutional government planners? Just curious.

      My point with Jesus was if he disagreed with him would you start yelling at him calling him unconstitutional and what not?

      Is it really that hard to see that you come across as a bit crazy? You also realize that Jesus advocated for a monarchy right? Just that he would be the monarch. You’re also far from sinless so Jesus came to forgive your sins too and not just “Evil republicans.”

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    • KyleD
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 3:40am

      Capitalizing leftist and using it over and over does not an argument make. Plus lying doesn’t help.

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    • WeNeedTermLimits
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 8:08am

      Now downloading talking points update from Ron Paul server… talking points update complete…

      “If you don’t agree 100% with everything Ron Paul says, you are a communist, neo-con, Constitution shredder and I hate you!”

      Sincerely,

      Paul Bot #56734

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 2:26pm

      Paulbots are funny.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 3:06pm

      DLV,

      It’s not about whether or not agreeing with Ron Paul’s foreign policy makes you a commie. However, BWS, Soybomb, myself, and many others believe that Ron Paul’s foreign policy is the legitimate, constitutional, and correct stance to take. We believe that by saying you disagree with him on foreign policy, you are enabling the liberals on the left to have justification for all of their unconstitutional, illegitimate nonsense. Therefore, if you do not embrace the principle of non-aggression on all things including foreign policy you are just another part of the problem. You and the liberals are two sides of the same coin, and nothing can be achieved in the way of returning this country to a constitutional form of governance until you admit defeat in this area.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 4:20pm

      no more war- Not entirely true. I believe in taking out much of our military around the world and agree with some of RP’s foreign policy but I’m also not naive enough to say Iran is not a threat and I also think we should help Israel if they get attacked considering the fact you know they’re allies both of which I think Paul disagrees with. I’m not even remotely close to a liberal no war so don’t pull that card. I took an internet political spectrum test yesterday to find out where I was. Turns out I was right, I’m a conservative libertarian. I just don’t think RP is right on these issues and foreign policy is becoming increasingly more important. If you don’t have these two things down, I’m going to have a problem with Paul. So no, I’m not part of the problem. There is a good argument to be made that Paul and his supporters are naive on these points even if I agree with him on nearly everything else.

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  • BenFrank1791
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:09pm

    I love it, if Chris Christie is like Cass Sunstein then Ann Coulter is like Frances Fox Piven . Its time to dump Fox, the low-information Conservatives, form a third party that represents true American Values of hard work and the Constitution .

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:55pm

    funny that he put ron paul right in the ‘sweet spot’ where glenn beck said we need to find “more people like this”…..Excuse me – we had a primary just 6 months ago and you said ron paul would be a disaster and holds views that are dangerous to this country…..

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    • RNM
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:04pm

      AMEN and AMEN! It’s ok… Glenn just sees that he needs the Paul supporters (real Libertarians) to jump aboard to rejuvenate ratings.

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:19pm

      Mr. Beck is trying to re-brand himself as a libertarian. Last week on his show he was saying that people can change and he has changed. Is writing a different letter on a business card really change..

      Mr Beck was whining last week about how he wants to be a libertarian but they won’t let him; that the libertarians want him to admit his errors of the past and he’s not willing to do that. His argument was that if the libertarians really believed in personal freedom then they would accept that he talks out of both sides of his mouth. And if they don’t accept him then they are fascists who require exact adoption of a set of beliefs without variance.

      Mr. Beck is unconvincing.

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    • BenFrank1791
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:19pm

      Without the long drawn out Ron Paul wars again, let’s just say, Ron Paul did not invent libertarian views . You like him I get it. I don’t. Not everything he said was crazy. Now let it lay, you are better off just promoting libertarian ideas and not Ron Paul. More people will listen.
      P.S I will not respond to a Ron Paul war, just too tired for that. Just keep up the liberarian points.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:39pm

      Yea BenFrank1791 i know. But he is what he is and most libertarians not heavily involved in the republican party have the same foreign policy views as Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a classic libertarian, so when Beck points to the board and says that we need more of these – you ought to take stock.

      Also note that rand paul and ted cruz were on that board and no other republicans. So there are basically 3 people doing right – 2 of them are Pauls and the other is one of the few people ron paul endorsed in 2012. The rest of that spectrum is bare and republican party is lacking

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:47pm

      I am more of a fan of Gary Johnson,but Glenn is just fishing for an audience. I think he realized he lost most of us “Foil Hat” wearing libertarians when he started supporting wars for Israel,people like Newt and Christie for what they say and not what they do,Romney,bashing Ron Paul,and Hijacking the Tea Party along with the other sell outs.

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    • BenFrank1791
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:58pm

      SOY– Good points, And yes I don’t know who is going to step up and represent the libertarian view. But I am not ever going to vote for the fake republican again. Rand maybe the best choice,we will see , who steps up. (yes i know, but Rand is not Ron ) and thats as far into it as I will go.

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:12pm

      In a nation that is fast steamrolling towards the far left and the majority of the nation fails to see it, Ron Paul pushed an agenda that was consistently right of central. Therefore he appeared to be extremist ( I believe on a couple of points that he was but agree with most ). Trust me, I want to turn this freight train around just as fast as any of you. But if you want it to sell it to the public, you can’t simply tell them that all they have known for the last twenty years has been completely backwards. You have to convince the average American that we want to slow the train, get it under control, and bring it back home for repairs. Not scare them into believing that a mad fight for control is going to derail the whole damn thing. They will vote for the evil they know every time.
      In simpler terms, Paul failed to sell it and therefore proved to be unelectable. Conservatives simply have to stop behaving like snarling hyenas battling for the same scraps and stand together against the real enemy. Until then, you can see what we get. Seriously, the left gets ghetto thugs, hippies, and soccer moms to come together and vote for the same party, and we tear ourselves to shreds over finite particulars that are all far to the right of where we are now.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 1:33am

      @I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      In a nation that is fast steamrolling towards the far left and the majority of the nation fails to see it, Ron Paul pushed an agenda that was consistently right of central.
      ——
      Yeah, uh-huh. That’s why Ahmed madman endorsed him. No, scratch that. Here’s why: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll513.xml

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  • RNM
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:52pm

    Oh Lord… not the chalkboards again. And weren’t we supposed to be amidst full-blown fascism by now… or was it naziism? Now you’re throwing totalitarianism and anarchy in the mix?!?!?! Quick… go buy more of the expensive food rations and gold coins!

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:09pm

      Glenn Beck’s arrangement of the political spectrum is foreign to what everyone else is talking about so that it’s impossible to have a conversation with him. His supporters will say that that is a good thing and see him as a shining light when in actuality Mr Beck is a one-man Tower of Babel

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:23pm

      Troll get outta here.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:42pm

      marybethelizabeth

      You agree with it, or no? Are you more accustomed to Left (socialism) versus right (facism)? What about this….http://www.thelibertypapers.org/wp-images/spectrum/pol_matrix_pop.png

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:52pm

      Soy- glenn’s chart is the true political spectrum. anarchy and totalitarianism are true opposites meaning they have no similarities whatsoever while fascism and socialism have plenty of similarities. We have bought into socialism vs fascism for the longest time probably left over from World War 2 when two big powers Germany (fascism) and the soviet Union (socialism) existed. Every since then it’s been a way to throw people off. But I like your chart. I didn’t realize MARX was so close to individualism though….

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:52pm

      Communism, the system where the workers control the means of production, allows the individual the most freedom because it gives the individual the most decision making power.

      The opposite end is a monarchy where the decision making is done by one person for everyone.

      You already know this.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:04pm

      Hahahaha- Mary communism is about the collective not the individual. Shows how much you know. There is no property rights under communism.

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    • barber2
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:04pm

      MARY: The workers control the means of production ? You are so naive. Not the workers..the Party bosses control everything. The state rules . The worker is like a worker bee: working to keep the state going and the Party bosses in control. Just like the unions.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:07pm

      DLV
      Yea i have no beef with Glenn’s chart. I believe glenn got that from 5,000 year leap book, which he used to talk about alot.

      Political ideology basically boils down to a function of personal freedom and economic freedom. On paper, it seems like karl marx is close to individual freedom – but in reality there is a lot of space between them. But it is interesting to think about cuz true communism is an economic system with freedom existing at the personal level. However, in reality communism results in little economic and personal freedom – which is why Stalin is listed in the top left – very bad territory

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:11pm

      mary beth

      you are wrong.. Communism is shared misery, oppression and slavery, the ability to keep and use the proceeds of your labour aka private property is freedom without private property you are a slave..

      Under Communism there are two classes the elites and the workers..the slaves.. don’t delude yourself, you being juvenile

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:21pm

      @Mary
      Can we agree that there is a big deal of difference between theoretical communism versus communism in the real world (because of man)?

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:34pm

      Seriously DLV,
      Communism, socialism, fascism… All equal more governmental control over your personal liberties to govern your own life. Therefore they are all near the far left of the spectrum. You also have to lump in strict religious based government systems as they also diminish individual liberty, therefore the common usage of “religious right” is entirely incorrect. I do not include the use of using a religion to establish a common moral code as long as it is not used to establish religious based laws, but rather as a foundation. That would be left-central on the political scale.
      The point being that we can have these conversations without becoming the snarling hyenas that are tearing the conservative movement apart. We may differ on the finer points, but we are on the same side.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:38pm

      I am Harrison- I don’t know why you’re addressing me, I agreed with all that. Where were we supposed to disagree?

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:46pm

      @ DLV Sorry about that, I got a little mixed up in the thread. We are not in disagreement.

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:57pm

      @ DLV, once again I apologize. Because you called me out, I made a point of skimming through your posts throughout the thread and I gotta say that we are in agreement on quite a bit. I too miss the days when Glenn had people glued to FOX News at 5:00 and had the left spinning in circles.

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 9:35am

      Soybomb315_II

      Skousen was a Mormon

      See how the textbook definition of communism gets changed in the above replies.
      The name calling wasn’t too bad considering it’s not politically correct to say the C word here. Even you did not use it when you posed your question, substituting socialism, (government control of the means of production).

      For at least 5000 years people have been complaining about the heart of man. Mr. Beck says it’s not Capitalism that is wrong, it is the people. I only agree with the second half of the statement.

      If Communism is the utopian ideal, and it’s certainly New Testament friendly, then lets shoot for that and not settle for something else that is easier.

      Consensus, participatory democracy, representative democracy, oligarchy, monarchy.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:24am

      Mary, communism isn’t maximum individual freedom. The workers do not control the means of production, the state does. There is the State and there are the commoners. The commoners work, eat, live what/where they’re told or they’re killed. They work for the Collective, not for individual rights. Individuals do not exist in the collective.

      If you were talking about stateless “communism” you may be closer. That is not communism, though. That is free association. You’re free to associate with a community, to live by their rules and laws, and contribute to their society. You are also free to leave at any time and join another group. That is more in line with libertarianism, though. *Note…not Libertarianism (capital L).

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:55am

      MARYBETHELIZABETH

      communism fails on its false premise.. humans are not equal, not in abilities, not in needs.

      When collectivists talk about equality they really mean “sameness” and forcing sameness is slavery and destructive of the human sprit.. Communism subverts humanity…

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  • Stelex
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:18pm

    If you haven’t noticed lately there is a very real blending of Washington and Hollywood. This is unbelievably dangerouse. Think about who and what Hwood influences. Kids, morons, and even yes …..you the average person. Just saying…….say something over enough and it becomes truth.

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:45pm

      Don’t forget K-12, college, union influence, etc…

      I do believe I feel a “Bad Moon Rising”.

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:48pm

      “How I Met Your Mother” just wrapped up here in our market. Re-run or not is irrelevant. “Barnie” had a scene in which he pulled a photo of Obammy out of a bag and the engraved tag on the bottom said “Dad”.

      I like slapstick sitcoms and usually liked that show. But it caught my eye right away as to how much the intermingling of politics (left leaning politics) and night-time television have just become one in the same.

      We are not fighting on one front, we are surrounded. But in the words of the great Chesty Puller…”We’re surrounded, that simplifies our problem…”

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  • GoodStuff
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:14pm

    What the hell is Beck talking about? He’s got the left on the right side of the screen, and the right on the left side of the screen. He has anarchy on the far-left and totalitarianism on the far-right…it suppose to be the exact opposite.

    Does Beck even know left from right? That chalkboard was the worst description of the political spectrum I’ve ever seen. At least put the Left on the left side of the chalkboard and the Right on the right side of the chalkboard.

    Good grief…and this guy wants us to beg the cable companies to pick up his channel? How ’bout first showing some competency?!

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    • Kupo
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:30pm

      Dude, you’re complaining about what is possibly the most unimportant part of the video. Good grief. Who cares which side of the chalkboard is which? He still gets the point across.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:02pm

      The terms ‘left’ and ‘right’ depend literally on your point of view. I recommend you listen to the lesson and don’t get hung-up on the props.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:05pm

      No goodstuff, you are wrong. You are stuck in the republican/democrat paradigm which has suckered almost every single american…..

      Read “The 5,000 year leap”. The true political spectrum is no government (anarchy) on the left and 100% government control on the right (communism/socialism). It is perfectly clear. And on that spectrum, most democrats and republicans are nearly indistinguishable.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:11pm

      This is perhaps the best way to show it and eliminates confusion….

      http://www.thelibertypapers.org/wp-images/spectrum/pol_matrix_pop.png

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:17pm

      Few of us follow Glenn because we believe that he is always right, but that he brings to light the right questions. Glenn is quite often off when it comes to the details, but he is nearly always heading in the right direction. To a great extent an individual is defined by those that he surrounds himself with I am comfortable championing Glenn as a great man based on the merits of those that Glenn champions.

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:49pm

      @Goodstuff
      What Is Left? What Is Right? It is extremely unfortunate that the writers on political philosophy today have undertaken to measure various issues in terms of political parties instead of political power. No doubt the American Founding Fathers would have considered this modern measuring stick most objectionable, even meaningless.
      It is popular in the classroom as well as the press to refer to “Communism on the left,” and “Fascism on the right.” People and parties are often called “Leftist,” or “Rightist.” The public do not really understand what they are talking about.
      These terms actually refer to the manner in which the various parties are seated in the parliaments of Europe. The radical revolutionaries (usually the Communists) occupy the far left and the military dictatorships (such as the Fascists) are on the far right. Other parties are located in between.
      Measuring people and issues in terms of political parties has turned out to be philosophically fallacious if not totally misleading. This is because the platforms or positions of political parties are often superficial and structured on shifting sand. The platform of a political party of one generation can hardly be recognized by the next. Furthermore, Communism and Fascism turned out to be different names for approximately the same thing — the police state. They are not opposite extremes but, for all practical purposes, are virtually identical.

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:55pm

      The American Founding Fathers Used a More Accurate Yardstick:
      Government is defined in the dictionary as “a system of ruling or controlling,” and therefore the American Founders measured political systems in terms of the amount of coercive power or systematic control which a particular system of government exercises over its people. In other words, the yardstick is not political parties, but political power.
      Using this type of yardstick, the American Founders considered the two extremes to be anarchy on the one hand, and tyranny on the other. At the one extreme of anarchy there is no government, no law, no systematic control and no governmental power, while at the other extreme there is too much control, too much political oppression, too much government. Or, as the Founders called it, “tyranny.”
      The object of the Founders was to discover the “balanced center” between these two extremes. They recognized that under the chaotic confusion of anarchy there is “no law,” whereas at the other extreme the law is totally dominated by the ruling power and is therefore “Ruler’s Law.” What they wanted to establish was a system of “People’s Law,” where the government is kept under the control of the people and political power is maintained at the balanced center with enough government to maintain security, justice, and good order, but not enough government to abuse the people.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:26am

      Please watch the start of the video again. He stated “Don’t pay attention to the right and left here, it doesn’t matter.”

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  • justangry
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:09pm

    Meh, I don’t know. I’d at least put Paul Ryen and Rubio on the 2nd chalkboard. They’re just not really on the side of freedom if you look at their voting on all that post 9/11 secuirty BS.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:57pm

      Well, they’re fairly conservative, but as you can see on the board, they’re still a ways from Ron Paul and Rand.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:28am

      Well, they are conservative, but they’re definitely more seduced by the power of big govt than Paul is. Rubio is borderline RINO if not already full on RINO. If he’s not brought back in check he’ll be right over there with McCain.

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 12:33pm

      I’d just hate to think of anyone who voted to put the Patriot Act on steroids, the NDAA, Drones, FISA, HR347, etc. really fit into the “freedom” child board. That probably should be addressed. I mean really, why not put someone like Demint at the end of the spectrum. Rubio and Ryan are neocon boot lickers.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 4:22pm

      Just- But they’re conservative on a lot of other issues which is why it balances them out in the middle. It makes sense.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 4:23pm

      Also just because they do a few things we disagree with doesn’t put them in the leftist or in this case on the right chart. That’s a very Brother Winston Smith approach and it should be avoided.

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 7:31pm

      Trashing the bill of rights is substantial. I, myself, can’t look past it.

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  • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:07pm

    Thank you Blaze,
    This is a subject that I have brought up several times here to get the conversation going. All to often I hear people leftists trying to counter conservatives about their being fascists. At least I get their false attempt. What really bothers me is when conservatives fall into the nonsense about being right wingers. We conservatives all to often find ourselves divided over misunderstandings of the various political models and fall into the trap of debating over communism vs socialism and other “isms”.
    It’s simple, on the far right of the spectrum lies anarchy in which you have 0% government and 100% unrestricted liberty (until someone more greedy and more powerful takes your liberty unopposed by any law). On the far left you have Government control over every aspect of your life and you exist simply to serve the government.
    Conservatives desire the maximum amount of liberty to govern our own lives, and to employ a government that serves us in order to protect our liberties and freedom from enemies both foreign and domestic that would infringe upon our individual rights to “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:14pm

      depends which conservatives you ask. Social conservatives are in the middle because they believe in economic freedom but not personal freedom

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:59pm

      I would agree with Soy here plenty of conservatives aren’t libertarians and would try to legislate morality therefore, putting them more in the middle.

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:42pm

      I hear you Soy, but if an individual falls right-central on the scale on one aspect of society, but decisively left on all other aspects then that individual would still be a leftist over-all. But at least one with a chance of seeing the light.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:00pm

    Totalitarianism is almost inevitable at this point. We are this close….[ ] to going under. CIA, FBI, TSA, NDA, NAA, Google, Apple, GE, GM, Do you even realize how many forces are against you…..the average citizen????? Do you even realize how much info you give volonterally …….Information is power, so lets to to google and tell everyone what we want, lets go to facebook and tell everyone what we think………Good god, everyone in America has there lives on there sleeves. Social engineering is whats happening, its a lovely term for manipulation. Any one out there like to be manipulated????……I don’t. But we are…….stop giving up to the gov. NOW

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:00pm

    Voting a debates are controled by the Ds and Rs . They will kill to keep that control.
    Only bloodshed will change this and it will require quite a bit.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:06pm

      I do so hate to agree with you about this, but I’m afraid you may be correct.

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    • TSUNAMI_22
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:04pm

      Yes, agreed.

      The tree of liberty has been drought-stricken for too long……unfortunately.

      The future favor those that prepare.

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  • tonypro
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:59pm

    Given a choice between extreme left (slavery), and extreme right (anarchy) I would deal with the right over the left if it had to be one or the other, but either way I choose to live free.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:08pm

      Your currant freedom is an illusion. We haven’t been free in this country for over a hundred years. Think long and hard about true freedom, this ain’t it.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:23pm

      @Stelex
      No sir, my freedom is not an illusion. I am quite aware of the removal, and lack of in the U.S.
      I am also quite aware of the expedience that the ones left are being removed.

      Have no doubt what I consider MY freedoms do not come from any man, or government, but from God, and NO man, or government can take that from me.

      ….and you are correct, as mans freedom, towards man goes, this ain’t it.

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    • imperative
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:50pm

      @TONYPRO

      Well said on all points.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:17pm

      well it’s a good thing you dont have to resort to anarchy…..There are plenty of constitution-loving liberty supporters who just want the federal government to operate within the constitution and states with the authority of the 10th amendment.

      its funny that the people who want pure constitutional government are often called anarchist even by republicans

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:57pm

    Wonder how many people that “Value Freedom” think these young people are just being smart ASSES?
    I do it at Police State Revenue Check Points,but doubt I would have the intestinal fortitude to do it at the border.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZg

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:29pm

      Thanks BOJANGLES. That was an awesome video.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:34pm

      I am not as Libertarian as Soybomb,but I am more so than Glenn Beck hahaha.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:18pm

      jeffersonian smokey…..We are both jeffersonian

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    • PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 6:35am

      Thanks, I watched that last time it was referenced here. I liked it. Do not comply with illegalities. If they should detain you and put you under custody, one thing to remember, if asked if you understand, then at that point say NO. By agreeing to understand you are saying “I stand UNDER your authority”. When you are in the right don’t ever let them make you believe you are wrong and stand under.

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  • barber2
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:54pm

    And the use of ” revolution / anarchy ” to allow a totalitarian government to follow has been a pattern. That is what is going on in the Middle East and North Africa with the Muslim Brotherhood types. With all of the racial and economic divide the White House is encouraging, might be on their menu also. Have never seen a president so unwilling to solve our economic problems nor so constantly willing to target his political opponents. Something stinks in this administration…

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    • tonypro
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:05pm

      That smell is called “divide, and conquer.” religiously, morally, racially, financially, politically, etc. etc.

      These demons have proven by their actions that they are bent on the destruction of this nation.

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  • media-bias-steals-elections
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:54pm

    The danger is when people are silent, worried about offending people, whether it is something about your job, or something about politics, sooner or later YOU are going to become the victim of all these “unspoken rules” you live by?

    There is NEVER an extreme left or right as long people are able to articulate common sense? Hollywood wanted to celebrate their achievement of another year, of applying pyscho-babble peer pressure, to make you silent?

    They can clap for themselves, but YOU pay their bills? Why not instead of one stupid movie, you sign up for an online membership with one of Glenn’s productions? Tell Glenn, I want a COUPON CODE, we want to send Hollywood a message, instead of buying a movie ticket, we gave the money to Glenn Beck?

    But of course the coupon code should be “Oscars”?

    Rush Limbaugh’s Cigar Puffing,
    Hmmmmm, maybe you got there something?

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  • DougHuffman
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:53pm

    Well, the political spectrum is certainly not one dimensional. Once more than one dimension is admitted then there is no limit.

    Here is The Mathematical Impossibility of Compromise by Alan Schwartz. http://mazepath.com/uncleal/comprom.htm

    First paragraph “The supreme postulate of Liberalism, social engineering, social activism, social advocacy, rights movements, peace movements, the United Nations… is that compromise is possible. By crippling the able and enabling the crippled we can all get along. It is rigorously mathematically demonstrated that no compromises exist for complex multi-variable problems, even in theory. Zealot religions of tiny-minded fanatics know what they are doing. Diversity (a word grievously devalued in the manner of “gay”) is mathematically guaranteed, irrevocable, inevitable disaster. ” Read it all, only 903 words.

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  • Kupo
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:52pm

    Glenn Beck is absolutely right. For another perspective on this same reality I would suggest watching the following video:

    How Leftists Revise the Political Spectrum:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVXqGX_Vx8

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:01pm

      This is the old Glenn I love.

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    • Kupo
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 11:53pm

      Agreed. I owe a lot to Glenn Beck. Before I started watching his show I was very politically ambivalent and left-leaning, but mostly because I didn’t really understand anything about politics. Watching Glenn turned me around to conservative and libertarian thinking. I owe that to Glenn. Unfortunately he and I are still very divergent on many issues, as I consider myself mostly in line with Ron Paul’s political philosophy, so it’s very pleasant when Glenn puts forth something that I agree with wholeheartedly, and this piece certainly qualifies.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 1:41am

      Yeah differing opinions is good. I’m all for it. Conservatives however, really need to get their **** together because we are getting out @sses handed to us in the elections. We need to unite and conquer the progressives or else we will never win another election. Count on it!

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    • 00100111
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:34am

      I definitely credit Glenn for opening my eyes to Progressives and how far their march has come. If not for him, I’d never have become as politically active as I am. I agree with maybe half, or even a little less than half of what he says as I do my own research after he says it. But I do credit him, like I said, for opening my eyes. I’d never have known what a progressive is, and in fact (I’ll admit it) was one of the many lulled into a trance by Obama when he ran the first time. If not for doing my own research, I almost voted for him.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:49am

      01- if you don’t mind me asking, what do you disagree with him on?

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  • allensmithee789
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:51pm

    The American Form of Government — http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment We can choose to keep our Republic or be ruled by an Oligarchy.

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  • mrwolfy
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:47pm

    none of the political scales truly reflect worldview. A chart with perpendicular/intersecting lines is better- there are those that believe in perfecting humanity, and those that believe you cannot. With both those worldviews you can justify a myriad of political positions

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    • I_AM_HARRISON_BERGERON
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:37pm

      True, but it doesn’t have to be quite that complicated. If I were to grade myself on the political scale from anarchy to totalitarianism I would find myself at a variety of points regarding different aspects. I believe that a given body of people ( Family, Neighborhood, City, State, Nation…) needs an established moral code in order to coexist. This by default falls to the left on the spectrum to some extent determined by the details of that particular code. In many other beliefs I fall pretty far to the right. I would then have to give a weighted value to the importance or impact of each aspect and then simply estimate a political range in order to most accurately define myself.
      This would make a very interesting computer test that automatically tabulates the political range of a subject.

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  • phrogdriver
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:39pm

    It has always been a question of statism vs. individual liberty. Whether it’s the Marxists or the progressives, the Nazi’s or the Muslim Brotherhood – they ALL believe in statism, which is the real enemy of liberty.

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    • UNALIEN
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 10:05pm

      Statism is Fascism or coercion,, financial, ideological emotional or physical, it is never sustainable as they run out of resources a war is inevitable

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:38pm

    We’re on the fast track to totalitarianism with Barry and his minions and if you don’t see that it means you’re a POS Obama voter.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 8:56pm

      Which would reflect their level of intelligence in, and of itself.

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on February 25, 2013 at 9:00pm

      “We’re on the fast track to totalitarianism” = the Highway to Hell.

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