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It’s About the Drones: Rand Paul Tells Glenn Beck His Vote on Hagel Was About Something Much Bigger

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The U.S. Senate voted 58-41 Tuesday to confirm former Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel as America’s new defense secretary, TheBlaze reported here and here.

Oddly enough, Republican Sen. Rand Paul — who voted against ending the filibuster — was one of the four GOP senators who voted to back Hagel’s confirmation.

Why? That’s exactly what Glenn Beck wants to know.

“Help us understand your vote for Hagel,” Beck said Thursday.

“First of all, I was the deciding vote to filibuster him and the only way to defeat him was to filibuster,” Sen. Paul explained, repeating his claim that he only supported the motion to block Hagel because he wanted more information on the president’s defense nominee.

“So we had 41 votes. I was called and lobbied hard from the other side to change on the 41,” he continued. “Within three days, many Republicans announced they weren’t going to filibuster anymore … we didn’t get any information — which is why we have filibustering! “

The senator continued:

We never had 51 votes to defeat him, but we had 41 for a while. So we come back the next week and I vote again to filibuster him. So I was one of 27, but that’s when the game was over. There was no stopping him when 27 voted. Fourteen people bailed on us and that’s when Hagel was nominated.

On the final passage, I did vote to allow him to go through mainly because I’ve said all along that the way I treat political appointees is that, for the most part, I give deference to the president.

I will fight tooth and nail to get information and to get information in advance, but in this case I decided that no information came forward that would eventually disqualify him.

Beck seemed skeptical.

“Why do you vote to support him? Why wouldn’t you vote ‘Present’ or ‘No’? I mean, you’re fine with him? You’re fine with Hagel?” Beck asked.

“It’s one of these things where I don’t treat it as an issue, I treat it as a presidential nomination to a political office,” Sen. Paul answered.  “I think the president does have the right to form his cabinet.”

“I voted for John Kerry and I got some grief for that,” he continued, “I agree with nothing that Kerry represents … I just have made the decision that on these type of appointees, unless I can find information that they’ve taken money from a foreign government or given us information that was not accurate, then I go ahead and let the president make his political appointees.”

However, according to the senator, he was also aiming for something much bigger than the appointment of a temporary White House cabinet member.

“I … wanted Republicans to stick together to try to help me get information on [John] Brennan,” he said, referring to President Barack Obama’s CIA nominee.

“And one of the things that people may not realize about this place up here is that by being part of the filibuster team, I’m also able to get some people to help me now on the Brennan nomination,” he added.

In short, he claims his maneuvering on Hagel’s confirmation was about recruiting enough allies to “stymie” the Brennan nomination and pressure the Obama administration into publicly announcing it won’t conduct drone strikes in the U.S.

Here’s the discussion via TheBlaze TV:

“I think the leverage of the filibuster with this is what I’m using to try to get the White House to admit publicly – and if they do admit publicly that they will not and do not claim the authority to do drone strikes in America – basically I will have created a precedent,” Sen. Paul explained.

“Even though it’s not a law, it’ll have been a president admitting that he doesn’t have authority. And no president (Republican or Democratic) likes to ever admit that they don’t have the authority.”

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Comments (145)

  • MisterSarcastic
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:49pm

    More Washington clownery.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:43pm

      And more TROUBLE-SHOOTING COVER from the LEFTIST republican media (claiming to be either “conservative” or “Libertarian.”)

      Now that SELLOUT, AMNESTYING, ESTABLISHMENT BOOT-LICKING RAND in a protected republican trophy wife, he will get all the leftist republican “coverage” that his father was refused.

      Hey Beck, any questions on Rand “playin’ the game” Paul’s AMNESTY FOR FUTURE REPUBLICAN VOTES? Why not?

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    • American Cherokee
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:48pm

      Rand’s stand is pretty Constitutionally purist. But that is what many say they want. Like he said, he stopped the vote to get as much information out as he could til OTHERS chickened out and gave up. He or someone said “ask the others why they chickened out” but Glenn and Pat interrupted and there was not follow up about that. Would be interesting to know the facts about that. Like he said; He and opponents did not have the votes to stop confirmation. And if he had something illegal or treasonous about Hagel he would have voted no. But he didn’t, he just disagrees with him.
      Some of the people who now talk like they hate Rand, and many other people, wanted or want Rand to run for president.
      If Rand voted NO for EVERYTHING; If President Rand Paul wants to appoint someone like his Dad for Treasury or Sarah Palin for Interior or Commerce or Ted Cruz or Judge Napolitano for Justice or ANYONE for anything; What do you think the leftist media or democrats would do for revenge?
      “He voted against all ours and was mean.”
      Should he and everyone be ETHICAL STANDARDS VALUES PRINCIPLES? YES!
      But people should use the smarts God gave them also.
      No one agrees with anyone 100%. People who insist on that sound like someone’s exwife or exhusband.
      Go by how honorable the person is. Not if they are perfect.
      Most people loved Reagan because they could tell he really loved The American People and was A Good Guy. Very few like that these days. Rand seems like A Good Guy.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:48pm

      Glenn will interview the three other republicans about their yeas, right? RIGHT? Why would FAKE-conservative/libertarian Glenn Beck ONLY be concerned with Rand Paul’s vote? Is Glenn PROMOTING Rand for some unforseen reason? Has the Establishment already made their selections for 2016 and have TOLD puppet Beck to damage-control their unpopular votes? That’s… CORRUPTION, right? ELECTION FRAUD, right?

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    • American Cherokee
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:57pm

      Like Rand Paul said; If he can get the next nominee to state that drones won’t be used on people at America, that sets a legal precident that if broken can cause impeachment for the whole adminstration. If they refuse to promise, that is just as damning. Even some leftists and rare authentic liberals are turning on the administration and dem/prog establishment. Remember Nixon/prog. History repeats.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:20pm

      Paul in Pig-Latin translates to “Fold like a Cheap Suitcase.”

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:23pm

      Rand paul is still a politician. But a good politician so he should continue to remain in the senate

      Let’s draft Judge Napalitano to be the unofficial leader of the liberty movement

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:23pm

      No reason to deny Obama his appointment. And, no one here has made a case to the contrary. All hyperbole.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:39pm

      “Let’s draft Judge Napalitano to be the unofficial leader of the liberty movement”

      Draft? No free will in a “draft”.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:52pm

      yes monk it is slang and not the literal sense….that was real petty of you

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:53pm

      by the way monk, it is the liberals who usually ignore the message and focus on definitions…

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 5:03pm

      BWS

      Do you still keep up with Chuck Baldwin?

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    • wordsofwisdom
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 7:23pm

      So let me figure this out? If I can’t stop him with a filibuster I just vote for him just because or some other reason? So why the f–*k were you filibustering in the first place? Just to give you cover to vote for him, Right! You are all a bunch of commies in disguise Period! “What’s Wrong With This Song” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_9134749
      For you politicians

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    • AUsername
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 8:17pm

      Wise decision by Rand Paul in a attempt to protect Americans from tyrannical goverment.

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    • rochrealtor
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 8:25pm

      Bro Winston… If you don’t know why Glenn interviewed only Rand…your on the wrong website.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 10:27pm

      Funny, I didn’t see anyone on here going beserk when Mitt Romney said he would appoint Joe Lieberman or John Bolton to state or defense secretary positions. Both of those choices would be 100 times worse than Chuck Hagel and everyone pretty much knows that.

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    • RNM
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 11:00pm

      Bro. Wilson… because the all powerful Beck speaks for all conservatism/libertarianism… you know, as much as Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.

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    • guitardave
      Posted on March 5, 2013 at 5:43pm

      Hear we go,, the problem with Washington is this,, ITS BROKE. It does not work, period! Its like telling an alcoholic not to drink too much while handing him your car keys. You see when you trust someone with your belongings after knowing all too well that the person can not be trusted with any amount of responsabilaty,, what do you expect?? I have got to the point concerning any and all people that work for us in Government have to much temptation to handel which brings about all the corruption. Im just simply done. The US Government needs to be dismantled and rebuilt with ONE PARTY that way there can be no blame game crap or clown show hipocracy. I hate to say it folks,,but I feel that our system is so full of TYRANNY and CORRUPTION,, even to the point that it is praised and accepted,, that it is done for. Its gone WAY PAST the point of fixing,,, its only going to fester and get worse. Its very sad what has happened to America. I hope that God himself is willing to help us get rid of the poison.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:41pm

    Ok I get it…he said ok for the drunk Hagel so that he can say no for Brennan? Is that it? I listened to Brennan in full and he actually knows the process…although he is messed up in the head, he at least was more coherent than Hagel.

    Silliness. And who did he recruit? Got enuff to stop him…I doubt it.

    All Obama wants are yes men and perhaps one woman…and he will get what he wants. No one here or there will stop them on Brennan. JIMHO

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:48pm

      “I give deference to the president.”

      Humble submission and respect for one but not the other?

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  • HOOT_OWL
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:40pm

    OK, that was a pretty weak excuse . Politicians will never learn.
    The reasoning fades away .And all that’s left is the memory of the vote.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:39pm

    If I had anyone who agreed with me on 100% of my opinions and beliefs, I would wonder why. No one agrees with another on every single issue. I am not a Paul fan but he is playing in the political cesspool and knows how to navigate.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:49pm

      Personally I think Paul got snookered….we will see at the Brennan vote how it washes out.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:31pm

      Paul voted for the filibuster he did not cave on that. I blame the republicans who caved on the filibuster. Mclame and co voted for the vote but then against hagel, they are the once without principals.

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  • therapist
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:38pm

    Well, scratch Rand Paul from the good pile. There is NO excuse for voting in the affirmative with regard to Hagel. You stand by your convictions, you never compromise. You never allow even the smallest insinuation to point to Hagel.

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    • RNM
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:42pm

      He did… his conviction is that the POTUS should have leeway to form his cabinet.

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    • KenDeBreeze
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 3:12pm

      This isn’t even a vote on policy and yet you want to write him off despite his tangling with Hillary over Benghazi, his amendment to halt the sale of tanks and planes to Egypt, his amendment to deactivate indefinite detention under NDAA, his pushing of the Mack Penny Plan, his non-stop votes to not raise the debt ceiling and a myriad of other things that very few conservatives have been doing. The fact is, whether it was Hagel or someone else, Obama would eventually get his way in terms of a Defense Sec. The Def Sec merely runs the administrative aspects of the Pentagon while Team Obama calls the shots. Think outside the box and not let talk hosts do your thinking for ya. That said, Beck likes Rand because it is clear that libertarianism is on the rise in the GOP and for good reason. Only libertarian and true conservative republicans can be relied on to consistently vote against higher taxes and more spending. The sequester only cuts the increase of this year’s govt spending and is a pittance as Rand calls it. Until we’re advocating cutting the govt by 10% or more a year, then we’re not serious as a conservative movement nor have a solid grasp on how bad a debt/currency crisis can be.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:16pm

      Kendeb- I know I’m disgusted with conservatives around here right now.

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    • Rillobymorning
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 5:04pm

      Agreed. He’s scratched off my list as well. At least our Senator, Ted Cruz, voted NO. Thank you, Senator Cruz.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:04am

      Ha! Rand Paul’s convictions in this case are that he is anti-Israel like his dad, and probably pro-Palestinian too. Well, at least we now have proof that he is a fraud, despite that stupid filibuster trick he pulled on his unsuspecting Republican colleagues.

      Beck shouldn’t waste time asking Rand about Brennan. Of course he will oppose Brennan. Rand may not give a rat’s *** about Israel, but he fiercely opposes the use of drones on American soil.

      Oh, and don’t expect any father & son sheeple to admit that Rand is lying. They are all anti-Israel as well.

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  • tonypro
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:33pm

    What a massive cop out.

    Guess he’s been indoctrinated properly now.

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  • ellietoo
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:32pm

    If Paul was a man of principle he would have voted against Hagel. The did not get the information they needed so he just folds and gives a yes vote? We know Hagel had plenty to hide. That is why the information was not forthcoming. Paul is just another unprincipled politician. Glenn Beck is in such a hurry to hitch his wagon to Paul it is sickening. It was Cristy everyone wanted before….until Christy showed himself for what he really is. Our so called conservative commentators are either not really conservative or just looking to latch onto whatever rising star they can find without really checking them out.

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    • bharris0
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:54pm

      You hit the nail on the head. The republican party isn’t even remotely conservative. If they were, we would not have NDAA and the patriot act. Their presidential candidate would NOT have been Romney.
      These dirt bags are all the same party. There is a republican wing and a democrat wing but BOTH parties represent big government and not the people or our constitution.
      From what I can tell, they are all communist/progressives/socialist and not a single one of them has upheld their oath of office.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:25pm

      i believe Rand knows the truth….Which is that Obama could have easily nominated someone worse than Hagel. But Hagel overall would be a good secretary of defense because he views war properly. For that reason, Hagel is better than anyone Bush nominated

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 10:30pm

      Precisely Soy! That is why Hagel was a good pick. He is a non-interventionalist. I just wish that Rand Paul would use that as a reason to explain why he voted for him.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:32pm

    .
    Goes to show you, play with your Drone long enough you go crazy and blind to the truth. Not to mention growing **** on your palms……

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:32pm

    “the way I treat political appointees is that, for the most part, I give deference to the president.”

    This is such flawed “logic” and “reasoning” coming from Rand Paul. Then why have cabinet member nominee hearings or even a vote?!? I am deeply disturbed and disappointed in Rand’s lack of a backbone and spine. Very naive of him.

    Congrats to the 4 idiot GOP who voted yes for Hagel’s confirmation. History will prove you nominated an anti-American and anti-Israel Soros plant. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:12am

      You and many others here who are not RP libertarians keep calling Rand spineless. He is absolutely not spineless. Rand voted with the Dims because libertarians have a lot in common with liberals, including their hate/intense dislike for Israel.

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  • moreteaplease
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:31pm

    Politicians are all the same. They’re going to talk a good game but in the end they go to the side that is holding the most power because that is all they are after anymore. I don’t believe any of them have the spine to stand up for anything they believe in and they sure don’t care about what We The People say anymore.

    I don’t care if I am an army of one fighting a loosing battle, I am still going to fight if I firmly believe in the cause. Even if you fall, you fell with your principals and character in tact. i don’t see that here.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:30pm

    So if the drunk Hagel had the votes then why change your vote? Guess I missed it again.

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  • SciPro
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:30pm

    See .. Rand Paul did have a reason to vote the way he did .. he played the ‘smart card’ for future leverage. Smart move .. can’t fault the man in this case … Thanks Glen for getting more info on that!

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:55pm

      “Smart move”

      So it’s all about protecting himself for a future election? Really? You find that admirable?

      Vote principles!

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  • robinriordan
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:27pm

    Since 1848 there have been 9 nominees not accepted. All were rejected by a democratic run senate. I think Rand Paul is NOT standing for his principles. The President will not use drones in US? They already are.

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    • lwoot
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:46pm

      Wow really? So he thinks Hagel is fine to advise and help shape the administrations policy for the Nation? I know more about Hagel than Rand Paul probably does because he only researched him in regards to what Hagel submitted for them to review. If you don’t give a crap Rand Paul why posture over it? Because if you think it will get you anywhere on Drones then your delusional. This admin and it’s nominees and backers aren’t going to give you anything if they can help it. Then ask yourself, even if they do, who is going to do anything about it? You and all of the other reps in both parties make it very clear your not going to do anything but posture. The same way you do with Fast and Furious, Benghazi, and executive orders that by pass you and make clear your irrelevance. So when congress decides to stop making it and the people it represents irrelevant none of this is going to change.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:26pm

    He voted for Kerry now Hagel what’s the point of voting if all you’re going to be is a rubber stamp for the Marxist wonder pig? Paul says the president can pick his cabinet,fine do so then do your job of getting enough information on the appointee. You say you didn’t get enough info but voted yes anyway? Glad to see you erred on the side of caution with this. Like I said one party system,Paul was just a rubber stamp.

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  • DLV
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:23pm

    Oh Jeez you people are so skeptical and full of crap. Like I said yesterday and I will continue to say today, I support Paul even if I don’t agree with his decision on this minor case. This isn’t Obamacare he was voting on and betrayed a conservative cause he said he feels that the president can appoint who he wants because it’s his cabinet. I respect that. That’s more about respecting the office than the president himself. This wasn’t major. So my final say is Mr. Paul while I was hugely happy with your decision, I respect your reasoning and will still back you 100 percent if you decide to run.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:32pm

      Excuse me typo, I was NOT hugely happy with his decision to appoint Hagel…

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    • RNM
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:37pm

      The philosophy that, if you vote in favor of ANYTHING the Obama administration does, you must be in favor of EVERYTHING the Obama administration does…. is RIDICULOUS!

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:44pm

      Not at all, Paul says he disagrees with all of what Kerry agrees with and yet voted him in because he believes the Prez can make that decision. Fine by me, even if I don’t like the guy who is going in. But it’s not like I’m going to like anyone Obama picks.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:58pm

      DLV,

      I think the real issue here is GB willfully putting words into other people’s mouths. Shameful to say the least, wouldn’t you agree?

      And you all wonder why libertarians don’t want Glenn Beck.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 4:20pm

      no more war- I don’t know why you are hitting Glenn Beck. He was asking questions, it’s the conservatives who are so quick to throw Rand under the bus that’s who I’m disgusted with not Beck. He has different opinions than other libertarians big freaking deal? To me he is a conservative libertarian like me, so I will like him until he turns into a progressive.

      Anyway, you get the idea.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 10:24pm

      DLV,

      The point is GB was caught lying (again) to push an agenda. He is forcing Rand Paul to go on the defensive for something he should not have to. Voting for Hagel was the right choice.

      If this were someone on the left lying about GB, you’d bash them in a heartbeat. But when Glenn lies, I guess that’s different isn’t it?

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    • RNM
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 11:03pm

      My question is… why does Rand even feel it necessary to respond to Glenn’s criticism/questions… who is Glenn to demand such cooperation?

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  • jackact
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:21pm

    Drones are the present and future Rand.
    With or without anti-Semite Hagel.
    Big mistake.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:57pm

      Rand is a total fraud…just like his pappy Ron “pork king” Paul.

      Avoid the Paul family like the plague.

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    • LDLLDL
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:33pm

      Not by giving the government control of drones on american land. You want the future. I think saying that is stupid frankly but at least if you are going to play with them keep them out of American land.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 8:19pm

      most Israelis are not semites they are from Europe.

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    • FOREIGNANDDOMESTIC
      Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:22am

      @GOODSTUFF

      Rand is a total fraud…just like his pappy Ron “pork king” Paul.

      Avoid the Paul family like the plague.
      ——–
      In a nutshell.

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  • PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:18pm

    bs, totally. One does NOT translate to the other. NO to all three is backbone…NO more compromise and political games….THE COUNTRY IS IN THE DITCH…..we need men of courage not gamesmanship. That’s how we got here. So much compromise all principles and values got pulled out by the roots being going so far left to “compromise” YOU’VE BEEN DUPED. Wake UP Congress!

    IMPORTANT VIDEO….how far we are gone. Who will survive?

    http://www.theconservativetreehouse.com/20113/02/28/forer-kgb-agent-yuri-bezmenov-explains-our-four-stages-the-new-normal-2/

    Shocking – we are at Stage 3…after that it’s gone…..real fast.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:27pm

      Fact is your looking for George Washington purity and this culture just doesn’t produce those kinds of people anymore, or at least they’re very rare. I think people on this site are too skeptical and too willing to jump the gun on Paul. I still support him however, if he starts making headway into progressive territory, I’ll quickly stop.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:30pm

      Obama won the election. We don’t like that, but he did. He has a right to choose his cabinet. The reason not to give him his choice must be an extreme reason.

      The gut argument against confirming, is Bork. Do as they do. Payback is sweet. At some point this may be required, and maybe now is the time… but I think not. Await a Supreme Court nominee, then Bork them. Pick your battles wisely.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:45pm

      The Jerk- Again I can’t believe I’m saying this but well said.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:06pm

      Jerk,

      Well said. The evidence against Hagel was flimsy and false to begin with.

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  • moreteaplease
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:14pm

    Whatever.

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  • Just_Us2
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:13pm

    How often does Paul use this type of flawed logic? Just another guy with no standards.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:19pm

      Rand Paul is using great reason and logic. You are not.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:28pm

      I can’t believe I agree with the Jerk but he is right, you guys are jumping the gun and being judgmental big time.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 2:37pm

      Where is BARBER2 telling us not to aid the progs in the divide and conquer?

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:11pm

    I listened to that this morning and only had one thought;

    The left is going to vote how they want to vote regardless. They have an agenda and are on their way to completing it. They will never honor anything that Rand Paul is talking about any more. Maybe in the past but, not any more. I don’t see how Sen Paul fails to see this.

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    • DLV
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:31pm

      He doesn’t fail to see this I don’t think. But I think he respects the office of the president to appoint people who the president wants considering its his cabinet and I respect that even if I disagree with his decision. The fact is Monk, Obama isn’t going to choose a real conservative and Hagel is the least worst thing. I’m surprised Obama didn’t pick someone else quite frankly.

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    • No_More_War_Please
      Posted on February 28, 2013 at 10:39pm

      Veteran of the Viet Nam War. Two time purple heart recipient. Non-interventionalist. What’s not to like about Chuck Hagel?

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  • floridaborn
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:11pm

    Mr. Paul has lost my vote. His words prove that he is nothing but a “play the usual game” politician.

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  • lenovo
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:10pm

    Wow…What a weak and pathetic answer.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:09pm

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    He must have a Drone in his pants he’s playing with…..

    I think he may be part of the Mushroom Tea Party cause he is tripping…..

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:09pm

    Rand Paul is full of excuses, but ultimately, he failed to do his job. Paul lost a lot of credibility when he voted for John Kerry, and he lost even more credibility when he again sided with obama, and voted for Hagel. Rand Paul seems to have lost sight of the fact that he works for the American people – he is not in office to pacify and please obama.

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  • Too_Far_Gone
    Posted on February 28, 2013 at 1:03pm

    bs. next case.

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