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Obama: My ‘Evolution’ on Gay Marriage Is the Same as the Rest of the Country

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President Barack Obama said Friday he thinks his “evolution” on gay marriage has mirrored the shift in public opinion in the country as a whole.
“We cannot discriminate against same-sex couples when it comes to marriage,” Obama said. “I think this evolution I’ve gone through is the same evolution the country as a whole has gone through.”
Speaking to White House reporters, Obama said his administration couldn’t avoid filing a “friend-of-the-court” brief with the Supreme Court urging it to strike down California’s Proposition 8 same-sex marriage ban.
“I felt it best to articulate what I believe and what this administration stands for,” Obama said, adding that California’s law provides no basis for discriminating against gay couples other than their sexual orientation.
Obama came out in favor of same-sex marriage last year after formally opposing it.
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Comments (163)
Zombee
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:16pmNormalization of abnormal behavior is destroying the moral fabric , traditional values and principles of this nation. Of all the special interest groups in this nation, only one defines itself by sexual preference.The sole unifying characteristic of its members is the practice of abnormal sexual acts.In order to make themselves look “normal” they are doing everything that they can to change “social standards.”
The abnormal’s demand tolerance and acceptance from the normal’s, but give none in return. The institution of marriage has been well defined for eons and its never been about a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman and it never will, no matter how hard they try. They can’t feel good about themselves, so they must force us to feel good about them. It’s never going to work.
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Granny58
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:21pm“Of all the special interest groups in this nation, only one defines itself by sexual preference”
Only 1 so far…
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cessna152
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:37pmFirst, these liberals/Progressives get into a tizzy every time government is mixed with “religion”. Well, why are you liberals (encicom) supporting government mixing with a religious ritual…the one of marriage? Government NEEDS to be out of the marriage business altogether. Saying otherwise is hypocrisy.
Second, how come I’m denied MY right to freely express myself? I was slandered, sent hate mail and threats just because I did not want their agenda shoved down my 8 year old’s throat! So much for tolerance.
BTW, obama, the country is not behind you on this and as a President, your job is not to make sure gays or other groups get more rights. The premise of the USA is equal FREEDOM, not rights! There is a huge difference. When a government right is granted to a group, another group loses its freedom. Equal FREEDOM not RIGHTS!
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stablepar
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:53pmGod’s stand on gay marriage has not changed. it is still an obamanation
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love the kids
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:10pmWhat is is belief of poligmy? Why don’t 2 women and a man who love each other have a right to get married? Why is it OK to descriminate against them???
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:25pmYou know who hasn’t “evolved” His position? The Lord God.
“I AM the Lord. I change not.”
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MONICNE
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:50pmThis seems like such a waste, a perfectly good homosexual controversy presented on a Friday when it’s really too late for our obsessive compulsive gay bashing fauxmericans who lose their computer access on weekends and holidays. They could have spent some serious time commenting here.
If you are patriotic and care about our economy, maybe you should consider evolving like the POTUS.
It is a proven fact that a higher percentage of Job Creators are Gay and Lesbian. These folks NEED our support so they will create jobs. If they are inconvenienced or made to absorb risk, they will not create jobs. They need certainty about Gay Marriage to be able to plan for the future.
If you are rude to the GLBT Job Creators they will not create any jobs! Be respectful to those who are successful, they are more often than not, wealthier and more intelligent than most other people.
TEA – means Taxes not Gay rights issues.
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:26pmExactly. Allowing abnormal and immoral behavior is wrong, and our country will suffer for it. We cannot allow the continued discrimination against homosexuals. It is time to put an end to their abnormal and irrational hatred of gay people. This cannot be done overnight, but by having the Supreme Court legalize gay marriage, we will be clearly moving in the right direction.
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 4:40pmCarbonyes:
Wow. Good point. You have changed my whole perspective on the world!
Perhaps you’d care to try and refute something that we have said, instead of name calling…..
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jblaze
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 4:47pm“We cannot discriminate against same-sex couples when it comes to marriage,” Obama said. “I think this evolution I’ve gone through is the same evolution the country as a whole has gone through.”
YES WE CAN!!!!
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rangerskippy
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 4:56pmRome evolved on the issue also.
Facts are still facts:
Every super power nation in world history that has accepted homosexuality as normal and natural has soon after fell.
Gays are 2.5% of the population and have 64% of the nation’s syphilis, made up 57% of new HIV cases last year, and have the highest suicide rates, and above average drug and alcohol abuse rates.
Homosexual males commit 1/3 of the nation’s child molestations.
Lesbians have the highest domestic abuse rates in the nation.
Homosexuals recruit children
Homosexuality, just like child molestation, rape, having sex with animals…. is a sexual deviation.
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rangerskippy
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 4:57pmI am serious starting to wonder if Obama is not a bugger of boys?
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neidermeyer
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:02pmObama will “come out” when he needs to change the subject in the press quickly… Separate vacations away from Michelle while he hangs with Reggie Love?? Nothing to see here…
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Chatikh
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:22pm@RANGERSKIPPY
Please supply data confirming your views, from an independent source that doesn’t financially gain from anti-gay or pro-gay groups.
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:25pmRangerskippy:
Whoa there big guy! Lets take a look at some of those so-called “facts”
“Every super power nation in world history that has embraced homosexuality as normal and natural has soon after fell.” Ummm…. No. Not even close to truth. The concept of homosexuality did not even exist before a few hundred years ago, and before that, male-male sex was common and accepted in all societies at all times. This argument is stupid and flat out wrong.
“Gays are 2.5%…” First, I have seen statistics that show gays as being higher than 15%. Since you have to tell people you are gay, there will never be a reliable percentage here. And yes, gay men do have slightly higher STD rates for HIV, but straight men and women have higher rates for Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, and Hepatitis. What is your point here?
“Homosexual males commit 1/3 of the nation’s child molestations”. Wrong again. I assume you mean 1/3 of molested children are male. It does not mean the molester is gay. Frankly, anyone abusing children does not fit in as gay or straight, but as a pedophile. Besides, many “straight” men have abused boys too.
“Lesbians have the highest abuse rates in the nation.” And straight men have the highest rape rates in the nation. What is your point here?
And gay men do not “recruit” kids. It is not possible. You can’t change your sexual orientation. Finally, you may consider it a sexual deviation, but not everyone does.
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JRook
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:29pm@cessna152 If your position is that they should not be offered the ability to use and thus alter the definition of the term marriage then I agree with you. They should however be able to access and be granted civil unions. The amount of time, effort and money tied up into what is nothing more than a symbolic argument over the term marriage is reflective over what is really wrong with the country. That is that any number of groups place way too much importance on their “belief entitlement”. And that they have a right to hold beliefs even when they are not rooted in science, sound logic, rational thought or a defensible theory or thought process. Having said that you instruction to the PRESIDENT is reflective of the aforementioned belief entitlement. It is in fact the PRESIDENTS and our entire governments job to assure that every American enjoys equal freedoms and equal protection to exercise their rights identified within the constitution and afforded every citizen. But altering a the definition of a culturally, socially and religious defined term is not one of them. Civil union is what they should have available. Perhaps they could spend some time, effort and money researching a more appropriate term for their committed relationships.
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:44pmJrook:
The problem is that civil unions are not equal to marriage. In all states that recognize civil unions, the benefits given to them are not the same as the benefits given to married couples. They are not recognized by the federal government. And there are plenty of groups that actively campaign against allowing civil unions and ban them in state constitutions. If you are so concerned about the term marriage, call it gay marriage and traditional marriage like you have been. We are focused on achieving equality. If your sole reason for opposing gay marriage is that you don’t like the term, thats pretty sad. Legally, it is marriage, but you can call it whatever you want! Just don’t deny us the same rights you already enjoy.
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Xanderson
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 6:20pm@Monicne:
“It is a proven fact that a higher percentage of Job Creators are Gay and Lesbian. These folks NEED our support so they will create jobs. If they are inconvenienced or made to absorb risk, they will not create jobs. They need certainty about Gay Marriage to be able to plan for the future.”
What kind of ridiculous statement is this? Please enlighten us as to how you arrived at this?
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MONICNE
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 6:57pmWe all need to rethink our attitudes about business persons. The past 4 years have shown us that successful job creators need certainty and favorable conditions to be able to create jobs.
Our top GOP leaders, including Romney and Gingrich; and TEA Party leaders including Palin, Bachmann and Paul told us this important message day after day. Give the Job Creators what they want! Do not inconvenience or ask them to sacrifice. Eliminate all risk and uncertainty – otherwise the Job Creators will Leave.
Our Government must learn to give the very few Job Creators anything they need to be certain we get jobs. Job Creators are “special” and have a high incidence of immorality and deviance. But, they are wealthy and don’t put up with everyday hardships. The Administration is focused on jobs, and therefore is trying to satisfy the rich and successful wherever they are found.
Support T-E-A initiatives. We should be stronger than ever in 2014.
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rangerskippy
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 10:00pmFear not you degenerate lovers of the homosexual. DOMA will get overturned in the very near future, and gays will get to get to marry and will get full recognition nationally.
Shortly after, libs will move to start doing away with 1st amendment rights, shutting down a preacher’s right to speak against homosexuality. Christian schools will be made to comply with not speaking against homosexuality, or they will be shut down, and the homeschooling will be made illegal.
Parents will start being sent to jail for teaching children anything that is contrary to what the state teaches.
Legislation will be put forward to start lowering the age of consent, and giving gay men aces to younger and younger boys.
All standards of morality will be dropped; the heathen will push for allowing polygamy and bestiality.
While America basks in her sexual deviance, the economy will continue to plummet, the takers will continue to outnumber the makers, and one day, the system will break and the welfare check will not go out. The godless, sexually deviant heathen will pour from the large cities like ravenous wolves, raping, stealing, and murdering all that stands in their path. Americans enemies will then attack from multiple angles, and America, just like Rome will cease to exist.
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Granny58
Posted on March 2, 2013 at 12:36pmonce this door is opened, what logical determent could there be to polygamy/polyandry or incestuous relationships?
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RightUnite
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:14pmAaaahhhhhh…. Wrong again dumb*zz!
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iampraying4u
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 5:05pmGo back to the bathhouse berry
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TEIN
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:10pmMarriage..union between man and woman…..add “same sex orientation partners” then it is not marriage…trying to turn the common definition of marriage into an uncommon one…Pres. O as a lawyer has the same mentality as Elena Kagan…if you don’t like a law, just change it to what you do like…use the justice system to change laws without citizen voted representation, and then if you can’t change the law then change the definitions for that law…sick and evil way to bypass the checks and balance of the US Constitution….and then call it progression or “evolution” of thought…
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:01pmGuess he never knew (ha) it is sodomy or heard of Sodom and Gomorrah
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:32pmRewind 50 years. By changing the definition of marriage to include interracial couples, you are changing the common definition into an uncommon one. If you don’t like a definition, I guess you just change it, and call it evolution or progression of thought.
And sodomy refers to specific sexual actions which are performed by the majority of all couples, gay and straight. It really has nothing to do with a loving couple looking to get married.
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MDECKER
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:10pmEvolution of Principles. Interesting.
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Balpit
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 9:26pm“Evolution” on gay marriage?
Doesn’t evolution usually mean an improvement?
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spfoam1
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:09pmEvolving? The gay Marxist is just stepping out of the closet.
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EQUALIZER
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:09pmObama did not evolve, he has been gay from day one. Just ask his college room mate.
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CatB
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:25pmYes …
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/recollections-of-obamas-ex-roommate/
Who sits that close to another dude with no one else on the couch?
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CatB
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:31pm“Both men were transfer students from Occidental College in Los Angeles, and as transfers were locked out of university housing at the time. Mr. Obama, 20, a junior, had spent two years at Occidental, where he had lived in the same dorm as Mr. Boerner.”
Isn’t that cute .. the couple went from one college to another TOGETHER.
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biohazard23
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:35pmCat, let me guess…. dear leader and his “roomie”? They do look awful cozy, don’t they? Ick…
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:44pmBIOHAZARD, I bet that Larry Sinclair would disagree with 0bama regarding that statement.
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CatB
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:47pmYes .. ick .. I had a girl cousin who used to do the same thing with her girlfriends .. yes yes SHE is ;-)
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ColoradoMaverick
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:08pmClaiming to be “evolved” is the most arrogant and idiotic thing I think BO has ever said. His flip flop on the subject is purely political. Just like his alleged faith in God. BO does not believe in God, he thinks he is God.
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Paroikos
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:08pmBanning “gay marriage” is the similar to banning “round squares”.
Consider this headline: OBAMA: MY ‘EVOLUTION’ ON IGNORING REALITY IS THE SAME AS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY
Obama is ignoring reality about the country ignoring reality. The country knows self-evident truths. Let’s get real. Real marriage is heterosexual.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:11pmObama’s interference in California’s law is an impeachable offense.
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Granny58
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:23pmYep, I haven’t “evolved.”
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Winedude
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 2:01pm@bannedfromcnn: Please explain to me how filing an “amicus curiae” (friend of the court) brief is an impeachable offense? If you’re smart enough to write one, you could submit it yourself. Then again, the neither Supreme Court nor very many others actually care what you think…
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:41pmJust because you hold a discriminatory and outdated view of marriage does not mean that the rest of the country does. And I agree, the president and much of the country has evolved PAST ignoring reality. They now realize that gay relationships are every bit as loving as valid as straight relationships.
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Captain_Sensible
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 6:44pm@winedude
This is a guess on my part and nothing more. I have no legal background whatsoever (unless watching Perry Mason counts of course).
Here is what I think might be considered an impeachable offense on his part: President, Obama is the chief law enforcement officer in the land. His Oath of Office includes the promise to uphold the laws of the land. I don’t think that he gets to pick and choose which of those laws he will defend. DOMA, the Defense of Marriage Act, is still the law of the land. SCOTUS has not struck it down (yet). Congress has not passed subsequent legislation invalidating it. What we have here is the chief law enforcement officer refusing to enforce a law on the grounds that he doesn’t agree with it. I don’t think that falls within his discretion.
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RoDogg
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:07pmThis is what you must know
When I want to sound like Obama, I fart
It is so
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gyro
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:14pmsmelled and proclaimed as a fact
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skippy6
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:06pmIt would be nice if he could evolve past his ego…
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wilbstal
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:06pmsorry Comrade you dont call the Moral shots for me or my family and you never will
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:51pmThat is true. And you do not call the moral shots for me or my family either. That is why you cannot ban gay marriage.
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woodyee
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:04pmSexual deviants want more ‘rights’ than normal people do. They have the same right to marry a member of the opposite sex; anything else is a maneuver to get recognition of abnormal behavior above and beyond that of normal human beings.
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gyro
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:15pmno more normal Woodyee some one will report you
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:15pmThe “right” to marry soemone you can’t be attracted to and ruin both your lives is not equal to the right to marry someone you can love as they deserve.
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:04pmI bet his ‘evolution’ on bathhouse etiquette has evolved as well.
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wilbstal
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:04pmStick the Gay stuff up your back side Mr Comrade what about my Gun rights?????
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beeboop
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:46pmDamn right!
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Salvelinus
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:03pmTo my fellow Catholics (and the misguided Baptists, Evangelicals, and other 30-thousand Man-made denominations) check out some of Mr. Voris’s video’s on what’s going on regarding the homosexuality in the Church. Stop the attacks on the One True Catholic and Apostolic Church and please educate yourselves before you continue to attack. “Catholics are born for combat” – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqkTzS02hDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8t-rTJiog
For Protestants and Evangelicals – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNK0hPhHFs
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woodyee
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:59pmEvolution?!? You mean your ‘coming out of the close’t, Gaybama!
see here – http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/libel-case-against-obamas-gay-accuser-tossed/
Also, look up Wright’s Trinity United Church’s Donald Young, Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. Gaybama knew them ‘really’ well, erahh, before Bland was executed on Nov 17, 2007; Young was executed Dec. 24, 2007, and Spencer purportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007.
Death certificates here – http://rense.com/general82/cdet.htm
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reality based lifeform
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:56pmMr. President you do not speak for me nor the majority of the American people on this matter so quit pretending that you do . Most American’s still disagree with gay individual’s sexual dis-orientation
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naughtycal
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:08pmExactly,
Most American feel MARRIAGE isn’t a right granted by government and so Government should get the heck out of it.
There’s some evolution for your a55
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HarryPotter
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 4:29pmActually, if you look at the latest polls, the majority of Americans are in favor of gay marriage. But frankly, this is rather irrevalent. You should not be able to deny equal rights to one group of people, no matter how the majority feels. One of the jobs of the government is to protect the individual or group against the tyranny of the majority.
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naughtycal
Posted on March 4, 2013 at 8:16amPOTTER,
Tyranny resides in government not the people. To destroy tyranny is any form all you have to do is remove government not empower it. No where in the Constitution is Congress granted the right to dictate marriage by definition or other wise. I n other words ITS NONE OF THEIR DAMN BUSINESS
Those who promote government growth liberal or other wise also promote tryanny in all it’s forms.
You want to stop tyranny then you truely want to limit government. Think about that when you go to the polls.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:56pmMr Obama once again you go for political expediency and DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME.
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:12pmSNOW…..nor me DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME, MR PRESIDENT
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gyro
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:19pmbad news for you miss Snowleopard
he is the president and chief of butthurt so he speeks for the country
the good news
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no good news
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Budrow
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:55pm>>>”OBAMA: MY ‘EVOLUTION’ ON GAY MARRIAGE IS THE SAME AS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY”<<<
HOLD ON THERE BIG BOY!!! Now you are speaking on my behalf ??? SKA-RU YOU OBAMA !!!
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jawgee
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:53pm“I’m just so thankful that the government is involved in my marriage!”…said no married person ever!
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am123
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:52pm“I felt it best to articulate what I believe and what this administration stands for,” Obama said
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This administration stands for taking down America from within and promoting perversion and destroying the traditional family is part of that process.
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Stoic one
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:52pmHere’s an idea barry; convert all ‘marriages’ to civil unions & change the tax code to not recognize any union. Then leave marriage to the churches. Since civil union divorces will fall under civil courts – no problem.
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Gonzo
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:54pmNot a bad plan.
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jawgee
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:55pmYes! Look at how much time, money, and energy we’re wasting on this non-right when we could be focusing on much more important things.
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naughtycal
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:00pmExactly, removes government hands from the equation and government can stay out of it.
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Cavallo
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:01pmWell said.
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momrules
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:51pmYou do not speak for me Obama. My morals and standards do not evolve to suit societal demands.
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Gonzo
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:56pmThat’s because you’re a Christian Mom. What’s that say about Obama’s faith?
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AmericanStrega
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:06pmAmen Mom, AMEN!
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am123
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:10pmExcellent points MOMRULES and GONZO. Obama’s position on morality evolves because he is not grounded in the Word, as anyone who is familiar with the Bible knows. Obama is a tree that bringeth forth evil fruit:
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
—Matthew 7
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HotFixIt
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:26pmOne does not have to be a Christian to disagree with this man. He does not speak for me and my beliefs also do not evolve to coincide with the decaying morals of this society.
I honestly do not know what I am… I am not an athiest…. I know that.. everything else.. up for grabs.
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Gonzo
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:57pmHotfixit, maybe you should read Mom’s entire comment. My response was to her second point.
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AmericanStrega
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:51pmWell Mr. Obama, I’m part of the rest of the country and my beliefs on gay marriage has not “evolved”. You do not speak for me.
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GardenoftheGods
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:06pmSame here…my ethics & principles DO NOT evolve!
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Witness1974
Posted on March 1, 2013 at 12:49pmUnprincipled liars always “evolve.”
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