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Gun Control Laws Advance in Colo. — Here’s Everything You Need to Know About Proposed Bans and Background Checks

Mar. 5, 2013 8:01am Billy Hallowell

DENVER (TheBlaze/AP) — A series of sweeping gun-control measures in Colorado are on track to hit the governor’s desk by the end of the month, with Democratic committees in the Legislature advancing all the bills despite a Capitol packed with hundreds of opponents and surrounded by cars circling the Capitol blaring their horns.

Gun limits including expanded background checks and ammunition magazine limits were helped Monday by testimony from the husband of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and victims of mass shootings in Connecticut and a suburban Denver movie theater.

As TheBlaze has previously noted, Colorado has become a focus point in the national debate over what new laws, if any, are needed to prevent gun violence in the wake of recent mass shootings, including an attack at a suburban Denver movie theater last summer — a massacre that brought to mind the Columbine High School shooting of 1999 for many in the state and across the nation.

The seven gun-control measures cleared their committees on 3-2 party-line votes and are planned for debate by the full Senate by Friday. Four of the seven have already cleared the House, making it possible some of them will land on the desk of Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper within weeks.

KUSA-TV provides more about what these seven proposals would do:

- BACKGROUND CHECKS: House Bill 1229 would add a background-check requirement for many guns sold in private transactions. It passed a Senate committee in a 3-2 party-line vote. The Democratic-sponsored bill has already cleared the House.

- MAGAZINE LIMITS: House Bill 1224 limits gun ammunition magazines to 15 rounds. The Democratic-sponsored bill has cleared the House, and passed Senate Judiciary on a 3-2 party line vote.

- FIREARM BAN FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENDERS: Senate Bill 197 would expand a ban on gun ownership for people convicted of certain domestic-violence offenses. The bill passed the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line 3-2 vote Monday. One more committee vote awaits before the full Senate considers it.

- GUN LIABILITY: Senate Bill 196 adds legal liability for gun sellers and owners. The bill faced its first test Monday.

- GUNS ON CAMPUS: House Bill 1226 would end Colorado’s unusual law barring public college campuses from banning concealed weapons. The Democratic-sponsored bill has already cleared the House.

- ONLINE GUN TRAINING: Senate Bill 195 would require people seeking concealed carry permits to take gun training courses in person. The bill faced its first legislative review Monday.

- BACKGROUND CHECK FEES: House Bill 1228 would revive fees for gun purchasers who need background checks. It passed a Senate committee in a 3-2 party-line vote. The Democratic-sponsored bill has already cleared the House.

“I think they’ll all pass. I really do,” said Democratic Senate President John Morse. “And I think they all should pass. I think any of them failing doesn’t make Colorado as safe as we could make Colorado.”

A biplane flying above the Capitol Monday warned the governor, “HICK: DO NOT TAKE OUR GUNS!” Hickenlooper backs expanded background checks and has said he’s considering a bill to limit ammunition magazines to 15 rounds. He hasn’t indicated where he stands on other measures, including whether he supports a proposal that would hold sellers and owners of assault weapons liable for shootings by such firearms.

Gun rights supporters walked the Capitol halls wearing stickers that read, “I Vote Pro-Gun.” Several dozen people outside the Capitol waved American flags as light snow fell.

Controversial Gun Control Laws Advance in Colo. Heres Everything You Need to Know

Mark Kelly, husband of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, testifies in favor of proposed gun control legislation in the Colorado Legislature, at the State Capitol, in Denver, Monday March 4, 2013. Kelly, a retired Navy captain and astronaut, has testified before Congress in support of gun control measures. The proposal Kelly testified for would expand background checks to include private and online sales. Credit: AP

Inside, retired astronaut and Navy captain Mark Kelly told lawmakers that he and his wife support the Second Amendment, but he said the right to bear arms shouldn’t extend to criminals and the mentally ill.

Kelly compared the different background check requirements for private and retail sales to having two different lines at the airport, one with security and one without.

“Which one do you think the terrorist is going to choose?” he asked.

Giffords, a former Democratic congresswoman from Tucson, Ariz., was severely wounded in a mass shooting in January 2011 while meeting with constituents.

Gun control opponents say the proposals will not reduce violence. They say lawmakers should focus on strengthening access to mental health services for people who could be dangerous to communities.

The bill hearings were at times testy, and included some outbursts from the audience. After one bill passed, someone leaving the committee yelled “That sucks!” to lawmakers.

“I’ve never seen such unprofessional behavior,” Democratic Sen. Irene Aguilar told the audience at one point.

The commotion at the Capitol underscored the attention the debate has generated nationally from gun rights groups, such as the National Rifle Association, to victims’ families and White House officials.

Opponents of proposed gun control bills being considered by the Colorado Legislature holds signs to those passing in cars in front of the State Capitol, in Denver, Monday March 4, 2013. Credit: AP

One of the nation’s largest producers of ammunition magazines, Colorado-based Magpul, has threatened to leave the state if lawmakers restrict the size of its products. Its founder said smaller magazines can be easily connected to each other and the company fears it would be legally liable if people were to do that.

Victims who have lost relatives to gun violence say it’s time for legislators to take action.

Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was among the 12 killed in the Aurora, Colo., theater shooting, was among the people urging lawmakers to pass magazine restrictions.

“He was enjoying the movie one second, and then the next second he was dead,” Tom Sullivan said.

Jane Dougherty, whose sister, Mary Sherlach, was a psychologist killed in the shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., has been lobbying Colorado lawmakers to pass new gun laws. She said she doesn’t understand gun owners who worry the bills are putting a burden on their rights.

She said the Connecticut shooter used “the same type of weapon that we use in war” to “slaughter these babies” and asked lawmakers for stricter gun laws.

“We cannot wait for yet another massacre to transpire,” Dougherty said.

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Uechi
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:23am
The people of Colorado have two choices get rid of these Progressive pieces of filth or vote with you feet and leave. People of Colorado do not comply. If all the legal gun owners in the state refuse to obey the law Colorado will be forced to abolish these ant-Constitutional laws not enough room in the jails.

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- Skeeterhawk
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:38am
  I admire your spirit. Imagine when the cops come to your door. They are there to search your house to determine if your guns are stored safely. Or perhaps they are there to confiscate that newly designated illegal semi auto rifle or that super dangerous Beretta 682 over under. Your precious kids are in bed, Monday Night Football is playing on the big screen and you and your wife are relaxing watching the game. What choice will “most” of us have? We will comply. And they are counting on it. I have a family to raise and protect. I have a job and a mortgage. I’m just not sure what will happen. I intend no offense in my response to you.
  
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- schlepnier
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 10:34am
  skeeterhawk some things are more important than life. men have died by the thousands to protect a right their are actively seeking to take away in colorado. i would in that case tell the officer that he is executing an unlawful order in violtion of his oath of office and the state as well as federal consititution as such i am under no obligation to obey or cooperate. ANY attempt to enter my residence will be met with force up to and including leathal force as is my right under law….i would also organize with my neighbors so that if they came to my home they would be facing the entire neighborhood in arms.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 12:22pm
  But if the juries refuse to convict anyone of breaking an illegal law? If your representatives won’t listen to you, use jury nullification.
  
  Favorite quotes from the article:
  “’I’ve never seen such unprofessional behavior,’ Democratic Sen. Irene Aguilar told the audience at one point.”
  Colorado has professional audiences? Is there a union for that?
  
  “’I think they’ll all pass. I really do,’ said Democratic Senate President John Morse. ‘And I think they all should pass. I think any of them failing doesn’t make Colorado as safe as we could make Colorado.’”
  Yes, by all means, make Colorado safe from rampaging, violent, law abiding citizens.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 1:42pm
  everyone of the lawmakers that voted for this need to pelted mercilessly with rotten eggs and fruit.
  
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- Max Power 1
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:26pm
  Gun owners are losing this battle. I’ll tell you why. We are bringing a knife to a gun fight. The reason we are losing & may well lose ultimately, is because these state politicians are more afraid of obama than us. I guarantee you, they have been told “you will pass strict gun control or we will cut off all federal money, strip your representatives of their committee positions, all the unions in your state will go on strike, DHS & IRS will investigate you, we’ll simply shut down your state.” All we are doing is holding rallies & honking horns. Oooh, that will scare them. We MUST make the pols afraid of US. The idiots that voted in Colorado for gun control should be made to pay a price for their treason. I don’t mean physically harm them of course. But ya know, stuff happens. obama can stop the funds, but the people can make their cushy lifestyle go away. We must fight fire with fire. Use your imagination. Make their self-interest be, pro gun. These aren’t normal times. The normal rules do not apply. They will beat us if we play nice, by the rules. That’s what they’re counting on. We either get tough, & ruthless or we lose. Colorado, you have a one time chance to push back, to set the tone. To take a stand. George Washington didn’t beat the British by playing by their rules, he didn’t take them to court. You all know what he did. What will you do?
  
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Skeeterhawk
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:22am
This is by far, certainly not all we need to know. These laws have such far reaching legal technicalities and unintended consequences that they are going to ensnare hundreds, maybe thousands of Coloradans that are law abiding citizens today and will be criminals when the clock strikes midnight in July ’13. I can think of dozens of scenarios in just a few minutes of thought with HB-1224,possession of high capacity magazines. The 7 laws are a disaster. I think the most sickening thing I witnessed over the last couple weeks was high-fiving and dancing in the aisles by some of these elected zealots, ALL DEMOCRATS, at the LOSS of liberty and freedom for the citizens of Colorado. They reveled in the increase of government over reach and control.
They should be ashamed but instead they are drunk with the power they wield over me and the notion that they know what’s best for me and my family. They sicken me with their arrogance.

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- PA PATRIOT
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 10:10am
  Skeeter
  Read the following…carefully. There is no choice. It is clear and simple.
  
  http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/if-they-come-for-your-guns-do-you-have-a-responsibility-to-fight/
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 10:31am
  ‘…Read the following…carefully. There is no choice. It is clear and simple…’
  
  Absolutely, PA. That is a powerful essay and spot on. We all need to assimilate that thinking and act upon it.
  
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- isobamamadd
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 3:27pm
  people that come here are smarter than those on some other sites. Our Problem is the hidden Govt, that continues it’s track even if political representatives are voted out. We have a group of subversives quietly hidden within our govt that wants a global govt,which will in the end become tyrannical as this is just the start. I’m talking about the membership of the Council on Foreign Relations.
  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/586965/posts
  
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nocalifornia
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:06am
You are full of it, there are plenty of anti 2nd amendment comments on the site. I am reporting this post as the lie it is!

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coachpan
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:04am
Enforce the laws on Illegal Gun Possession and leave the rest of us alone ! Also, do away with Gun Free Zones so that I can protect myself from those that you won’t arrest.

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- jettson
  Posted on March 6, 2013 at 9:00am
  You said it buddy Thats all they need to do
  
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lynnissmart
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:59am
There is no stopping this federal pos government…they will not be happy until they plant a chip in our heads to obey them……this is truly out of hand….the pos and his policies should have not been allowed from the very beginning.

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- BaldingEagle1776
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:07am
  Yeah, elections be damned!
  
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- jefftavolieri
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:28am
  We will take your guns and there is nothing you can do about it.
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 1:24pm
  Wanna bet, Jeff?
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:09pm
  Jeffy, just for giggles, could you describe the “we” in that statement?
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:21pm
  Ah, Jeff, I see based on your posting history that you are not likely to reply. It is as I assumed. The “we” you refer really has nothing to do with you because you’ll be sitting on your arse somewhere if/when the confiscation occurs. In reality, it’s just you throwing out stupid comments and someone else doing the dirty work. Typical lib coward.
  
  It’s too bad you won’t be there in person to try and back up your comments.
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:22pm
  FUBARED, you beat me to it.
  
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BaldingEagle1776
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:53am
Really? So this is EVERYTHING we need to know? Wow, thanks The Blaze! I guess we don’t need to think about this any further.

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- MCON29
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:28am
  Not EVERYTHING, just all the FACTS. Feel free to add your own made up statitistics.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:42am
  Not very bright, are you?
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:08pm
  Beagle, it sets precedent for all manufacturers, that on it’s face goes against fed law. Should be enjoined within a day by a fed judge, that isn’t into activism that is. So no, there is more that you need to know, but can you handle it in your fragile state?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 3:56pm
  BaldEagle,
  
  Join the Pink Pistols. We’ll like you better.
  
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nocalifornia
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:51am
As a free man and a citizen of the Republic and a resident of Colorado, I will not obey these unconstitutional laws. If the governor signs any of these unconstitutional bills I will fly my United States flag upside down until the recalls remove these socialist democrats from office and the bills are repealed. The democrats have forgotten the lesson they were given when the passed a national “assault weapons ban” and lost control of the congress. Molon Laba

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- PA PATRIOT
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:07am
  Too many wealthy New Yorkers and Californians have invaded the Gold Rush State. Where boys became men very quickly and miners barely survived to make a living. What the hell happened?
  Aspen, Vail, Crested Butte……?
  
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- Skeeterhawk
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:11am
  I was in every meeting on the house side and the senate side for these so called hearings. The answer to your question is yes. They have forgotten and they don’t care about reality or the second amendment. I’m sure you know that these plans, these bills, have been languishing in the dark recesses of the libs bucket list since the Brady Bill sunsetted. Make no mistake that these hopelessly ignorant legislators will never stop until its just the police and the military bearing arms. This is in motion and the only way to stop this is in November here in Colorado. We have to reign in these useful idiots and at least get some resemblance of sanity and constitutional reverence back in the state house.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:18am
  @ NoCal – thankfully for Colorado Residents – some where smart and added a section – the Right to Bear Arms into The Colorado State Constitution. The problem Colorado faces is all the liberal leftist that are flooding the once Pro American State of Colorado. Now sadly, Colorado is the New California.
  - – - – -
  Every American should boycott to the fullest all Anti-AMerican States that willfully infringe on the Rights of Americans.
  
  2013 American Patriot Spring, What will you do?
  
  The distinctions between Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and Libertarians are no more. I Am Not A Republican, But An American!”
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:22am
  @Skeeter – you forgot one large group – Criminals – Criminals will still have Firearms.
  
  2013 American Patriot Spring, What will you do?
  
  The distinctions between Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Independents are no more. I Am Not A Republican, But An American!
  
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- nocalifornia
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 12:10pm
  Every freedom loving resident of Colorado should participate in the upcoming recall movements. I was at a town hall Sunday and our State Senator (Jeanne Nicholson) refused to tell the overwhelming pro 2nd amendment crowed how she would vote. Her staff made sure the 4 anti 2nd amendment folks who wanted to speak spoke first. On her way out she was heard to make a comment about the “stupid hillbillies up here in the mountains”. She won her seat by 650 vote because the gerrymandered district includes small sections of liberal Boulder and Denver with the vast majority (75%) residing in Jefferson County which is us mountain hillbillies. A group has already formed to start to recall this socialist democrat.
  
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- TheIggies
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:07pm
  moron labia
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:49am
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Kelly just needs to go home and wipe the drool off his wifes chin & STFU……….

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thx1138v2
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:43am
Someone needs to ask this question in front of a Congressional panel: Why have none of these mass shootings happened at a police station?

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Sargeking
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:43am
Let no doubt remain. We know the enemy. They are the Democrats. Please 2014, get here soon!

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- nocalifornia
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:53am
  We are not waiting, the recall process’s have already started.
  
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moreteaplease
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:42am
Kelly compared the different background check requirements for private and retail sales to having two different lines at the airport, one with security and one without.

“Which one do you think the terrorist is going to choose?” he asked
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And the street thug will go around any of them because the streets are where he gets his guns. I don’t think the street dealers are going to be too concerned with doing background checks.

Are the liberals really that ignorant of this fact?

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- Choctaw25
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:59am
  The answer to your question is: YES they are that stupid
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:38am
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I knew they were gonna pimp Head Wound Gabby Giffords around for gun control…..

They need to smoke some Weed and rethink gun control………..

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thewhiteright
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:37am
To subvert the 2nd Amendment is a violation of the sworn oath of the elected official, treason against the basic foundation of this country and the irreproachable boundary of liberty of the individual citizen.

LAPD Manifesto Killer- Democrat, praises obama and gun control.

Connecticut Elementary School Shooter- Democrat, in his mothers
words an obama-loving democrat

Ft Hood – Registered Democrat and Muslim

Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooter – Registered Democrat

Columbine – both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals

Virginia Tech – Registered Democrat, Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff –

Colorado Theater -Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal

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- theBru
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 10:20am
  So, what is the common thread here? What are you trying to say? You think maybe that some of this was actually planned by the progs? Surely, you jest…I think recalls will be fruitless, but at least we can try…Just remember, it is not who votes that count, it is who counts that vote!!!
  
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- mpowers8
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 11:49am
  Holmes was not registered to vote and a retraction of claims that he was have caused a retraction after the false reports had been promulgated.
  
  Nidal Hasan was either a resident of VA or TX, neither of which require you to declare a party when you register, so he wasn’t a “registered” democrat, although he may have voted for any manner of parties and up to six times it seems.
  
  Cho, Virginia Tech, was not a citizen and could not vote.
  
  Lanza, I can’t really find any good information on this family because some sources claim R and other sources claim D. So many people are scrambling to use this for their own gain facts have been pretty muddy. However, Newtown CT voted for Romney by a 51.7 to 47 percent margin so it’s not a solidly blue part of the country voting over 99.998 percent Democrat.
  
  I’ll keep reading up on this because the post above sure seemed pretty shocking and it would make a great chain e-mail and has been stated by certain websites and talk hosts, but if I can do half an hour of research and shoot a few holes in it like that then it’s safe to say claims like that should be taken with a very large grain of salt.
  
  Thanks for providing interesting research for my morning off and take care!
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 1:49pm
  funny thing is, they were all taking similar meds as well. Meds pushed by liberal schools and “Dr’s” because they don’t have the skill or patience to deal with children.
  
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Master.Debater
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:36am
“Kelly compared the different background check requirements for private and retail sales, ‘Which one do you think the terrorist is going to choose?’”

Neither moron, they will buy their gun on the black market regardless of any law you pass.

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- TheIggies
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 2:09pm
  The criminals can only get guns from those who have purchased them legally. Remove all legal guns and there won’t be any illegal guns. Sorry, I know thinking is hard when you’re so stupid it’s a struggle to say anything other than what you’ve read on nonsensical, conservative blogs :( :(
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 6:49pm
  Thehiggies, crime follows more crime. Criminals get their weapons via crime. Way to be a puppet though. Hello, anyone home? Anyone? So if we were to depopulate the world we wouldn’t have anymore dems or trolls? I see where you are going. Makes sense in that light.
  
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- themudflap
  Posted on March 6, 2013 at 5:38pm
  You really are stupid. Criminals do not buy guns from those that bought them legally. They steal them or buy them on the black market. Do you really think they will do a background check? They do not want a gun that cannot be traced moron. This is as stupid a thought as the gun free zones stopping criminals from going there. What next, we stop rape by asking men not to?
  
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momrules
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:36am
A total gun ban is coming. None of this is by chance and long laid plans are about to be put into action. Laws will be rammed through just like Obamacare was rammed through, against the will of the people.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:43am
  You’re correct because the worthless progs didn’t give up on government health care and forced an unconstitutional law on us. They’ll do the same with stripping not only our second amendment but all of our rights,they’re a vile lot indeed.
  
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BlazeMom
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:31am
When the manufacturers leave CO and paychecks turn to pink slips, the people will suffer. Lawmakers won’t. Corruption wins again.

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- Hobbs10
  Posted on March 6, 2013 at 2:43pm
  Colorado sucks!! “No Jessica’s Law”, “No guns (basically)” , “Yes Legal Pot “. Makes ya proud you don’t live in that state!!
  
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KMHArms.com
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:30am
We will continue to support all the good people in Colorado who wish to protect their right http://www.kmharms.com

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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:07am
  Where is the 5.56?
  
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maggiepie
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:22am
No laws are going to stop criminals or mentally ill from getting guns and magazines. If they are
determined to do harm, they will find a way to get what they need.

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BlackCrow
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:22am
Is this what it takes to get some people off their dead @$$ and get out to vote?

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progressiveslayer
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:19am
Here’s everything you need to know about bans and background checks,they’re all unconstitutional. The progs have been chipping away at the 2nd since it was written and they won’t stop until they’re banned.

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ferggie
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:15am
I must say that I think Kelly should take his Liberal @$$ back to AZ. It is none of his dam^ business what happens in Co regarding gun laws. He and his wife live in AZ.

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Bargis Tryhol
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:14am
To say the least…I WON’T be hunting in Colorado this year. I’ll spend my hunt money in a state that supports my rights. Hope others join me.

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:09am
Colorado gun-control laws, as with all such laws, is to give the democrats precedent to go for more control and power over the people; that is the bottom line control and power.

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jungle J
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:09am
some of them sound reasonable to me.

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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:17am
  As reasonable as an anal probe for the common cold.
  
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- UBETHECHANGE
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:17am
  You are a hack.
  
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- BlackCrow
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:20am
  What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand troll?
  
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- trolltrainer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:20am
  Honestly, the only one that is unpalatable is the magazine limit. My statement does not mean I support ANY of these measures, but they are par for the course. I can live with any of them. This is a far cry from “taking my guns.”
  
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- gauge
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:25am
  What part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” don’t you get?
  
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- BlackCrow
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:27am
  @Trolltamer
  
  Where pray tell does the Constitution give any government the power to set conditions on my right to transfer my private property?
  
  “He who would sacrifice liberty for a little temporary security deserves neither liberty or security.” Benjamin Franklin
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:29am
  Blackcrow is the only one who’s correct because the government doesn’t even have the authority to make ANY laws regarding the sale or ownership of firearms. We need to take the offensive with these candy@ss progs in government who’s made it their life’s mission to end not only our 2nd amendment but all our rights. Join the NRA and demand that ALL gun laws be abolished because every one of them is unconstitutional. It won’t happen overnight and might take a century to get done but look at the other side,they haven’t stopped their efforts to infringe on our rights and we shouldn’t stop our efforts to ensure our rights,all of them.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:39am
  @trolltrainer you’re missing the point here because if you give a worthless prog an inch they’ll take a mile. Don’t ever give them anything because the only thing they’re interested in is making us all subjects.
  
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- nocalifornia
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:46am
  You obviously didn’t read the bills, but most liberal socialist democrats don’t care what the bill says or how it is written as long as they can take away our 2nd amendment rights.
  
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- trolltrainer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:12am
  Not missing the point, I am just aware of reality.
  
  “Where pray tell does the Constitution give any government the power to set conditions on my right to transfer my private property?”
  
  Maybe nowhere in the Constitution, but the government we have set up based on that Constitution, (rightly or wrongly) certainly does regulate trade. The Constitution sets up the legislative branch to make laws. You can argue that the second amendment overrides any laws the Federal or State government may create regarding firearms, but the reality is we already have laws regarding them and will more than likely create many more laws. Is it unconstitutional? Sure, you can argue that. Till you are blue in the face. Think it matters to them?
  
  My point is with the exception of the magazine limit these proposed laws are not terrible. New York State created far worse. Should you fight this? Sure! We all need to fight. That is not my point here.
  
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- BrutalTruth
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:18am
  Trolltrainer, that’s exactly how the frog in the pot of water felt.
  
  Really. Exercise critical thinking a bit. Do you really think that any elected representative is telling the truth, when they openly are willing to violate any part of the Constitution? Do you rationalize that a lie for good purposes (as you determine) is honorable and righteous?
  
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- trolltrainer
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:47am
  BrutalTruth
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:18am
  
  Trolltrainer, that’s exactly how the frog in the pot of water felt.
  
  Really. Exercise critical thinking a bit. Do you really think that any elected representative is telling the truth, when they openly are willing to violate any part of the Constitution? Do you rationalize that a lie for good purposes (as you determine) is honorable and righteous?
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  And yet again…Critical thinking? Really? Listen…It does not matter what I think. Or what you think. It does not matter what your political beliefs are. They violate the Constitution EVERY DAY! WHAT are YOU going to do about it?
  
  Sheesh…You people are SO dense! ESPECIALLY all the Pault-a-r-d-s that would not vote for Romney!
  
  Do you not understand that you are bound WITHIN the rules of the game? It matters not what is fair or right, it simply is! The only way to change things is to vote. Unless enough people vote the same way we are done!
  
  So what, exactly, is the POINT of your post? What I think or feel makes no difference! Yes, they ALL lie and they ALL have an agenda! Even Ron Paul! Maybe it is about time YOU folks wake up and see the world for what it is!
  
  Go march on the courthouse and beep your silly horn. It matters not!
  
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:05am
Looks like Magpul will certainly have a new home in Texas very soon.

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- StonyBurk
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:14am
  Magpul may not be alone. The mess made by our irresponsible and uncaring legislators that defend the FEAR of those kept ignorant by our Democratic Party despots–but will NOT defend ones fundamental right to self defense. The very EVIL that is reflected in the 911 call where a nurse was NOT allowed by her employer to administer lifesaving assistance— but was instructed to call someone else to do what needed to be done-what should have been done. The “progressives” are an EVIL from the pits of Hades.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 5, 2013 at 8:16am
  Run Magpul run.
  
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