Photo Credit: Lauren Drain
Lauren Drain was a member of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) — that is, until she was kicked out of the anti-gay religious cohort.
Drain, who now speaks out against the church, released a book today about her experience entitled, “Banished: Surviving My Years in the Westboro Baptist Church.” This morning, she appeared on Glenn Beck’s radio show to discuss the radical religious sect.
“I was constantly being inundated with this brainwashing mentality,” she told the popular host.
Drain detailed her pathway into the WBC, a membership that took form after her father worked on a documentary about the church. Inevitably, he became interested in leader Fred Phelps’ controversial theology and brought his family along with him.
She also explained her expulsion from the church after she was caught speaking with a boy on the Internet who was not a Westboro member. The experience of being cut off from her family was extremely difficult.
Perhaps most noteworthy was Drain’s ability to explain, from the perspective of someone who was once on the inside, how the church operates and the lens through which its members see the world.
“They attribute everything to if homosexuals are ruining the country and they attribute everything to that,” she said. “They therefore make a connection that if the homosexuals are to blame, acceptance of homosexuals is to blame. Therefore God is going to punish the country in exhibit A, B, and C.”
See the segment, below:
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stumpy68
Mar. 6, 2013 at 6:24pmThe westboro “church”
is a Pro hate organization
and shouldn’t call itself a church
God loves People hate
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yoshik
Mar. 6, 2013 at 10:44amIf the gays would just keep it private. To glorify their sexual preference, and it is all about sex, just put them on the radar screen. I don’t advertise the fact I have sex with a beautiful woman a few times a week and that I was fortunate enough for God to put someone who tolerates my manic ways and is awesome as well as gorgeous in my life.
Now if you like that butch look or the back of another guys head and hairy **** that’s your choice. Keep it to yourself.
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teddyc73
Mar. 6, 2013 at 8:43amI wouldn’t say homosexuals are ruining the country but they sure cause their share of headaches for those of us that believe in traditional values and institutions such as marriage.
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joey g
Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:28am” take it up the tailpippe ” hahahhahahhahahahahh
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JGraham III
Mar. 6, 2013 at 10:07amThere are many more ‘sinful’ practices mankind commits than just homosexuality that could be said to be “ruining our country”. Romans 1 details many of these; but in all of them the Word declares it all begins with an unthankful heart. The Westboro outfit is one of the most unloving hard hearted bunch of people who call themselves Christian to gain public notoriety in my lifetime. As with most sectarian groups they are great at pointing out the speck in another’s eye yet ignoring the beam in their own. Jesus said that I think. Love the sinner; hate the sin I think the saying goes. Christians would go farther along the path to becoming more Christ-like if they would do as He did, namely seek the lost and avoid the religious whose hearts are far far from God.
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faithfullistener
Mar. 6, 2013 at 8:32amThe WBC is sad and sick! Its members give Christianity a bad name and a black eye! I’m sure it would both shock and surprise them to learn that most gay people live a holy, honorable, clean and dignified life! Being gay or straight makes little or no difference. Nor should it! Being caring, loving, forgiving, compassionate, etc., is what’s really important and in that regard one’s sexual preference doesn’t really matter. They need to remember that Jesus came for ALL PEOPLE…not just ‘some’ people! God loves all people equally! Always has! Always will!
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BeckPalin2012
Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:20amYou don’t know your Bible and you cannot withstand strong doctrine.
IMO WBC is not right on every issue….. but they are on this one. Most people simply cant stomach it.
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dacorvi
Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:37amWBC only gives Christianity a bad name to non-Christians. Because Non-Christians have no earthly idea what Christianity is! They think being a Christian is a religion. It is not. Religion is man’s way of trying to reach Godliness. God’s way of reaching man is through his Son Jesus Christ, and He does not care one iota about religion. That’s not to say that all “religions” or denomonations are bad, no, it’s just that real Christianity is of the heart. A heart changed by God himself, permanently. Sadly, the number of real Christians doesn’t come close to the number of religious people on earth. But that is what God says in his word: Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:37pmIn my opinion, calling them a church at all is I’ll advised. It would be more prudent, instead, to just refer to them as “Westboro” or the Westboro camp.
Do not let people attach any conceptions about Westboro to the Baptist church, or any church for that matter.
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On Eagle Wings
Mar. 6, 2013 at 4:00pmof course Jesus loves all people but that does not mean He tolerates sin; read Mat 5-7, this is what Jesus teaches on ALL issues, very tough and very pointed, He is a holy God and because He is holy He cannot look upon sin, any sin, so we all need to repent and try and live a holy life, not embrace our sin and make excuses why we think its ok….these teaching are not my teachings or the conservative teachings, so dont blame us, we only emulate what it says in the bible, its His words not ours….
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media-bias-steals-elections
Mar. 6, 2013 at 7:32amYou might not like the WBC, but you are silent about the millions of dollars being sent to Islamic countries, which means Americans are having their civil rights violated by supporting the religion of Islam? Humans are “wired” to look at each other in certain ways, and they believe they use those emotions in ways that do not harm others?
We can force ourselves to look at the bigger picture, such as the definition of marriage, or the support of Islam with public tax dollars, or we can wander around in the woods looking for food when there is a feast already cooked, and served, its on the table, come and get it?
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betterpart
Mar. 6, 2013 at 3:11amQuite as it’s kept, there are US churches that follow the same mindset as WBC though are not as vocal or prolific. One such case is the Northshore Baptist Church in NYC, run by some so-called pastor guy named Ed Moore. Some years back he excommunicated a widow woman and her young child, ordering the congregation to turn their noses up at her and the kid if they came upon them in the street. Mostly all agreed and clapped in spiteful glee. Her crime? Not agreeing with the guy’s personal opinion regarding a scripture verse that he was wrong in anyway. When he did this to the poor woman I left that abominable place. Some of these churches hold on to their own twisted doctrines and believe it’s their job to police the world, then when no one’s looking they take off their pious masks and live like the devil himself.
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Snubby
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:49amYa people should check their facts about the LDS church before they make claims about it. The majority of people don’t understand anything about what the LDS church believes yet they all act like experts. They just don’t seem very intelligent
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HarryPotter
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:06amThe one good thing about this church is that they are helping the rest of America see how nonsensical and foolish the arguments against homosexuality and gay marriage are.
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rosegrower
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:42pmNot really, Harry, because everyone looking sees what doofuses the Westboro members are. Because they are so focused on homosexuals (although the leader of this church is a huge Democrat donor and the current occupant of the WH has a history in Chicago’s gay bathhouses, so there is a little bit of a disconnect there), they make themselves look pretty out of it with regard to their stability. No one takes Westboro seriously, except for the members.
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HarryPotter
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:24pmrosegrower:
That’s exactly my point. Everyone else recognizes them as hateful, bigoted, and frankly stupid. The realize that everything these people are saying about gay people is absolutely crazy, and so they begin to see the truth, that gay couples are every bit as valid as straight couples, and deserve equality under the law.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:29pmI think the whole call to execute gays is the reason WBC became a punch line. They yell at average Americans, saying they’ll go to hell because they do not support legislation that would make homosexuality a capital offense.
They’re fully mistaken. Removing the choice to engage in perverse practices would remove free will, one of the first gifts given to Man. If they don’t understand the very first story in the bible, I think it’s odd that we call them a church at all!
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waspanglosaxon
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:32amI personally have no problem whatsoever with the Westboro Church’s “God hates ****” philosophy. Homosexuality is sexual perversion and should be punishable by imprisonment. It should be outlawed, just as should miscegenation be outlawed. It’s only this church’s tactics that I personally oppose, e.g., dancing on people’s graves, picketing funerals, etc.
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J_disraeli
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:57pmHitler had a similar thought. I suppose individual freedom is something you despise? Perhaps freedom is only for people who strictly agree with you.
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ihasa
Mar. 7, 2013 at 2:39pmJ-Disraeli – When you say ‘Hitler had a similar thought’, I think that’s half the attraction for this guy (check his username & pic!)
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DeeCee
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:38amTheBlaze, Glenn Beck, The LDS and any so called “church” that agrees with the practice of homosexuality and/or is afraid to call the act and participants anything less than a perverse abomination are liars and haters of truth.
The Bible is right and all others opposed are blatant liars.
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:52amSo… during the span of your entire life you have never told a lie? be honest.. because if you are going to be so pious, you better have the track record to back it up!
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DeeCee
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:05am@KEATONC333
Oh no… I’ve told my share, just like everyone else.
The Bible, God’s Word, does not lie… nor is it politically correct. Not even for the perverse, obnoxious, rainbow flavored faeries that everyone seems to hold in such high regard these days.
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jblaze
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:15amDEECEE
You are 100% correct. Either you believe what the Word of God says or you don’t. So Beck and others don’t pretend you are a Christian if you do not believe every word of God.
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HarryPotter
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:02amSo God came down from heaven, and wrote the entire Bible himself? I didn’t realize that. I always thought that the Bible was written by imperfect, fallible men. Perhaps they had a whisper of the Holy Spirit in their ears, but you know as well as I do that people don’t always listen to that voice in their ear.
Kupo
Mar. 6, 2013 at 2:41amUh, you do realize that the LDS church is 100% against the practice of homosexuality, yeah? In fact, one of the main reasons why the Boy Scouts haven’t caved into accepting gays is likely due to the LDS church having such a large influence in the organization.
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betterpart
Mar. 6, 2013 at 3:13amSorry but it’s not any churche’s job to be the morality police. Ignore what you don’t agree with.
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Alternative_Thought
Mar. 6, 2013 at 7:49amAll have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. Having said that if you don’t repent you’ve got a serious problem come judgment day. 1 Peter 4:17 For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God? There are 2 judgment seats. One at the beginning of Jesus millennial reign (1000 year reign on earth; 1 Peter 4:17) and the second the Great White Throne of God in (Revelations 20:11-15). The Christian that shows up to the first without repenting are going to spend some time in outer darkness with the unbeliever (Luke 12:42-48). Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. I would be real careful about judging what’s written in the news about Christians. They hate Jesus and will lie a and these people that have been kicked out have an axe to grind. I don’t agree with going to peoples funerals but they are right about sodomy. This country sins (murders baby) and say they are clean. Same thing they were doing in Israel and Judea doing before God led them into captivity. They stoned the prophets that told them the truth. Now they just throw them out (2Ti 4:3). Isa 5:20; Heb 5:14. If you erase lines you’ve got no right to draw new ones, stick to Gods lines. Jeremiah 6:16
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Kupo
Mar. 6, 2013 at 7:57amAlternative_Thought
So you believe that God **hates** gay people, yeah? If so, I think you have a pretty twisted understanding of the gospel.
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jblaze
Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:45amKupo
God loves all people…..He hates SIN. Not just the homosexuality sin, but ALL sin because it works against our great human potential.
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jblaze
Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:54amHarry
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16
2 Peter 1:20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation.
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2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
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HarryPotter
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:20pmjblaze:
Yes, those passages imply that the Holy Spirit was whispering in the ears of the Biblical writers. But fallible, imperfect man held the pen, so the Bible is therefore fallible and imperfect. There can be no other conclusion.
Big Media Bias
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:30amI’m surprised TheBlaze didn’t write up a fake story on how S.E. Cupp was furious over their existence and how she wanted to confront them personally. She is such a pro gay Progressive herself. I could only imagine the words she would use if she could debate them face to face;
outrageous, abominable, atrocious, barbaric, beastly, brazen, contemptible, contumelious, corrupt, criminal, debasing, debauching, degenerate, depraving, disgraceful, disgracing, egregious, flagitious, flagrant, gross, heinous, horrendous, horrible, ignoble, infamous, inhuman, iniquitous, malevolent, monstrous, nefarious, notorious, odious, opprobrious, scandalous, scurrilous, shameless, shaming, shocking, sinful, unbearable, ungodly, unspeakable, villainous, violent, wanton, wicked
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:25am“I was constantly being inundated with this brainwashing mentality,”
“They attribute everything to if homosexuals are ruining the country and they attribute everything to that,”
WOW does that sound familiar!
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Wisdom7
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:31amWe now have universities like Yale holding classes on how to be more accepting of bestiality, incest, and prostitution! The supposed purpose being to be more “sensitive” to “sexual diversity”.
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4646
Wow does that sound familiar. It sounds like Keaton’s future plan for humanity.
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:01amTo not automatically judge someone on something they have done in the past? did you read the link? Its not about promoting beastiality, prostitution or incest as a norm. Its about promoting compassion and reserving judgement to those who have made mistakes in the past.
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Wisdom7
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:45am“To not automatically judge someone on something they have done in the past?”
Yes indeed I did read the article. However, let’s cut through the ******** shall we? It states:
“People do engage in some of these activities that we believe only for example perverts engage in,” she said. “What the goal is is to increase compassion for people who may engage in activities that are not what you would personally consider normal.”
Notice the present tense? It’s not about the past. It wasn’t some survivors group. It’s about trying to desensitize people to it and promote compassion for “sexual diversity” much in the same way everyone did with homosexuality. Apparently you didn’t read it. There are entire websites on the Internet devoted entirely to “sex hookups” and sexual deviancy with multiple thousands of members. There are entire websites where people write out their perverse sexual fantasies. Do you recall recently where the police busted a girl having sex with a dog? Do you realize there are even entire websites devoted to this K9 sex perversion?
Sorry, but I have no compassion for evil.
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Remember_Benghazi
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:08amIf you are against gay rights because of religious reasons, those reasons do not differ between moderate Christians and Westboro cultists. You both worship the same book. Either homosexuality is a sin that deserves fatal punishment, as the Bible says, or the Bible is wrong. If you don’t believe that gays should be put to death for their gayness, you don’t believe in God’s perfect justice, as revealed to us through the Bible. It’s either true or it’s not. There is no middle ground.
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pantokrator
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:35amAll people should be put to death for sin. But we, as humans, subject to God’s judgment, are not to condemn a homosexual to death, only that they are committing sin. Ultimately, it is in God’s hands what is to be done.
If a man chooses to be gay, who am I to demand he stop, otherwise he deserves to be lynched? I am not taught to hate homosexuals, I am taught that homosexuality is against God’s Word, and that I, MYSELF am to resist it, so I do. But if another does not want to resist it, it is his/her choice, and I am okay with that.
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Rijjka
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:12amJohn 8:2-11
Need I say more?
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HarryPotter
Mar. 6, 2013 at 3:18amExactly. It’s either true or it’s not. That’s why all good Christians never trim their beards, eat shellfish or wear nylon. Those crazy people advocating for equal rights should know they can’t take one part of the Bible, and ignore other parts.
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Gonzo
Mar. 6, 2013 at 8:04amAll sin deserves fatal punishment. Not one more than another (blaspheming the Holy Spirit being the exception). However, redemption is available through repentance and acceptance of Christ as your savior. Repentance is key though. I think Westboro, is far too focused on this one sin, to the point of obsession.
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:47pmEach generation “just thinks” they are discovering something new? Would you care to rephrase that, or are you completely ignorant of the vast scientific, cultural, psychological, sociological, ad nauseum list of advancements and discoveries we have made as a species?
Basically, what you’re saying is that you reject all forms of advancement so long as it differs from your dogma. THAT is the subject about which I have much, much umbrage. Also, when a person’s claims directly involve me, without first considering my stance as well as my opinion, I dare not tolerate it. Having a straight person lecture a gay man on why his life is merely a deviant choice makes absolutely zero sense.
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:53pmSorry, this was a mispost and was meant to Nevertakecandy… My apologies.
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:31amIt is a lot like the N word for african americans.. and this is why.. It carries with it negative connotations.. Lets look back to its origins.. F***ot used to be the common term for kindling wood.. And during the time where burning witches at the stake was a common practice many homosexuals were also thrown into the fire.. except they were not believed to be important enough to actually put on the stake so they just threw them in with the wood and set it on fire… and that is why gay people are called that.
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:54amignore that.. I posted it under the wrong person
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danielmchick
Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:38amIt happens to the best of us. You, however, are not absolved of the atrociousness that comes with that vile post of yours.
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glegakis
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:38pmSo now Glenn is so politically correct that he’s afraid to say ‘***’ on his radio show?
When did *** become a banned word? What is it Homosexuals N-word?
I’m disappointed in you Glenn for capitulating to the libs.
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Mik_The_Truth_Blazer
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:57pmThere is nothing politically correct or leftist about it. It is swear word and has been for along time. It is in fact the homosexual N-word.
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BenInNY
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:03pm“F**,” yes I think they would consider that the equivalent, or as close as you can get.
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jcldwl
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:13pmActually it is not a swear word. It is just a pc thing. It is not their N word. They were never enslaved. Brits call cigarettes **** and have for a long time. Homosexuals tend to take things and make them their own. For instance, the word gay used to mean happy. Then they decided they liked being gay. Now it is being used in a derogatory way as in that is so gay…meaning stupid or dumb…so soon you will see it is pc not to use the word gay. The westboro people are freaking nuts…in fact with the way the word gay is being used now I would say what they do is so gay.
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:21pmGood, then I will be sure to use both Que Ear and Phahgo every chance I get.
Never let the enemy choose the terms and definitions.
By the way, to this Irishman “white” is the “n” word. I got my own issues with the anglos.
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RationalMan
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:27pmjcldwl…
Actually it is not a swear word…
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LOL, the only word that I know of that is “Evil” and a swear word, it’s call “TAXES”!…(5 letter words).
April 15th is creeping up and I’m just wondering how many “Truthful” religious person are going to be
truthful on there taxes???
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Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_ArTeest_Beck
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:46pm“Ex-Westboro Member Takes You Inside the Anti-Gay Church’s Strange World”
LOL! “Anti-gay” … is … “strange”?
3 For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentiles,
. when we walked in lewdness, lusts, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties,
. and abominable idolatries.
4 In regard to these, THEY THINK IT STRANGE that you do not run with them in the same
. flood of dissipation, speaking evil of you.
5 They will give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
[1 Peter 4, Holy Bible]
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:53amIt is a lot like the N word for african americans.. and this is why.. It carries with it negative connotations.. Lets look back to its origins.. F***ot used to be the common term for kindling wood.. And during the time where burning witches at the stake was a common practice many homosexuals were also thrown into the fire.. except they were not believed to be important enough to actually put on the stake so they just threw them in with the wood and set it on fire… and that is why gay people are called that.
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GoodStuff
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:02pm“Ex-Westboro Member Takes You Inside the Anti-Gay Church”
Yep, the Blaze is playing the leftist word games again. These Westboro clowns are NOT a church!! They should be called the Fred Phelps Cult, not a church.
Shame on the Blaze for acting no different then the leftist media.
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pantokrator
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:00pmI hope this is a joke. If it isn’t, it absolutely ridiculous.
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RationalMan
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:00pmThis what I saw on the front cover of the book:
“Banished: Surviving My Years in the Westboro Baptist Church.”
I don’t see the word “Cult”!
BTW, who’s to say your religion is right??
Just asking…
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pantokrator
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:26pm“BTW, who’s to say your religion is right??”
Such an irrelevant question to the subject at hand. I am going to do Goodstuff a solid and recommend not answering this.
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RationalMan
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:38pmpantokrator
Why not? Religion is Religion..It doesn’t matter who or what others worship it is still call a Religion!
I’ll say it again, “Who’s to say your Religion is right”?
It’s O.K. someone can name it a cult, but, it’s not O.K. what I have stated?
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Ditto Head
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:50pmJust because they have the word “church” on their sign doesn’t
make them right with God. Same goes for the Mormons.
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pantokrator
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:52pmThis isn’t a debate about competitive religious beliefs, this is about a religious cult following’s extremism, and a young woman’s escape from it. I will not answer this question, and I recommend no one answers this question, not here– This is not the place to discuss what religion is correct, it is not a philosophical debate. This, to me, is an attempt to spark a huge debate on Creationism, Evolution, etc, and ultimately try to make Christians appear narrow-minded and intolerant– It is an attempt to categorize Christianity as a whole with these cultists perverted version of Christianity. I can think of no other reason to ask that question.
I never said it was not “okay” to say what you said, only that it is not relevant to to the current article.
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RationalMan
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:05amDitto Head
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 11:50pm
Just because they have the word “church” on their sign doesn’t
make them right with God. Same goes for the Mormons.
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Well, what is right with God?
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RationalMan
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:14ampantokrator…
I never said it was not “okay” to say what you said, only that it is not relevant to to the current article.
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I know what you’ve said, and my question still stands…“Who’s to say your Religion is right”?
If Goodstuff, can make a statement it’s a “CULT” why can I ask a question? Yes, my question is
relevant to to the current article.
A is A ……
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pantokrator
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:28amFor the record, I did not condone Goodstuff’s post, either. I stated clearly that it was a ridiculous claim (assuming he was not being sarcastic). Once again, this is about a young woman’s story of turning away from a brainwashing cult. It’s not a philosophical argument. Plain and simple. If she came out with, “Why I turned from Christianity” or religion, in general, then I can see your question being relevant, but that’s not what she is promoting.
If people want to answer this question, they are at every liberty to do so, I am just recommending not to. It’s just a set up to spark a huge debate on philosophical competition, diverting from this young woman’s story completely. Nothing more.
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RationalMan
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:56ampantokrator
Once again, this is about a young woman’s story of turning away from a brainwashing cult. It’s not a philosophical argument….
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Well, it wasn’t “CULT”…it’s a “Church” she used to belong too!!!
*** philosophical argument..Oh yes it is according to Bill O’Reilly” who stated that “Christian” is a Philosophy”!…Hmmm, take it up with him!
Don’t you just love the world, full of “FABLE”!!!
Love it or leave it, but, Bill O said, “Christian” is a Philosophy”!…Hmmm, take it up with him!
Again, A is A!!!!
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pantokrator
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:25amThere is a difference between mentioning ‘cult’ and arguing ‘cult’, just as there is a difference between mentioning ‘religion’ and arguing ‘religion’. We are not here to argue cult, we are not here to argue religion. This shouldn’t even be an argument, period. You are making this much more difficult than it needs to be.
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tellingthetruth
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:58pmthe story of being anti gay is wrong somehow..then God needs to apologize to the sodomites for destroying there city ….one thing Mormons and that Church and God have in common..remember God Destroyed that city because they were all Evil and perverted to the point they even tried to Rape the Angels (because they were good looking)..how sick !!!
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FIREANDBRIMSTONE
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:46pmWhat is the difference between a Westboro church member and a Beck ‘s cult disciple?
Answer: Absolutely nothing.
FISH_BONE
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:56pmYou are a fine example of ignorance, moron.
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Fubared
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:59pmIf you can’t see it, you have more problems than just us.
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john vincent
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:00pm-fire and brim
your question is disingenuous
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KickinBack
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:09pmI’d give points for cleverness, even to a troll. Problem is, we don’t have any clever trolls.
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:45pmHow if FireRim EXACTLY the same as a Westboro Member?
They both see the World ONLY in terms of Homosex.
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Mik_The_Truth_Blazer
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:59pmThe difference is that the LDS church is a Christian denomination and the Westboro church is not.
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DeeCee
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:32am@MIK_THE_TRUTH_BLAZER
Bull-Shirt.
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:35amWhat is the difference between a Westboro church member and a Beck ‘s cult disciple?
-at least one of them knows they’re a joke
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Al J Zira
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:37pmSo when is the spaceship taking off with WBC members? Isn’t there an asteroid waiting for them somewhere?
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BARRYS_BEARD
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:46pmThey are still waiting for their order of black Nike shoes to arrive.
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KickinBack
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:19pmWell there’s comet PanStarrs flying by this month. But I think it’s a bit too dim, for the dimwits that is.
Then there’s comet ISON in Nov/Dec, that one will be brighter, but not bright enough, cuz they are dimwits after all.
And finally, there’s comet C/2013 A1, which has a chance of crashing into Mars next year. Perfect. There are no gays on Mars, so I suggest the WBC peoples pack up their Nike’s and Kool-Aid, and hitch a ride for a crash course to Mars.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:19pmCan someone help distinguish any difference in Fred Phelps’ preaching of hate and Jeremiah Wright’s preaching of hate? Both indoctrinate the members of their respective congretation to hate others. Phelps preaches hatred of gays. Wright preaches hatred of whitey. Drain saw the light and removed herself from the influence of Phelps. Barry embraced the darkness of Wright and took it to a whole new level.
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marybethelizabeth
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:30pmGlenn Beck preaches hatred of Communists. Says ruin the country a lot.
He also preaches hate for The Nation of Islam, He says there’s going to be a race war. He says they are recruiting black gang members who just can’t wait to kill white people. He said last year they would assassinate him.
Glenn Beck is using the same techniques too.
BARRYS_BEARD
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:45pmWrong again Scary Mary. There is an overwhelming difference between hating an ideology or an action and hating a person. Please give a specific example of when Beck has ever encouraged anyone to hate another person.
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civilwarcometh
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:04pmI know some one Glenn hates… Woodrow Wilson..
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Fubared
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:05pmBarryMeth what you are likely to forget is those of us here that were trained by tax payer money to hunt and eradicate communists. Take your pick from E Euro trash to Sud America farc type wankers. Same principles in effect. Beck has a book, and early civilian life version of reference only. Think on that, in between gulps. What separates you from Yugo Chavez again? Oh, news flash, Chavez is deader that he was before. Darn huh?
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:05pmHey there Mary, could you answer Barry’s question. I’m waiting.
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The Jewish Avenger
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:10pmMary had another trolling gig elsewhere…
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BARRYS_BEARD
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:12pmCIVIL: Does Glen hate Woodrow Wilson as an individual, as a person, or does he hate his policies? I’m guessing the latter. The question posed of SCARY MARY stands. Can you give a specific example of Beck encouraging any person to hate another person?
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crackerone
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:16pmMom kicked Lizabeth off the computer. The last sounds heard from him tonight, were his corduroy pants sqeaking as he slinked down to the basement.
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civilwarcometh
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:49pmBARRYS_BEARD I was just trying to get mary fired up. I think it might be both but for sure his policy’s. I know he says i really hate that guy when his name comes up. But i don’t think Glenn hates.
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:53pmThe Observant Student will note that the BEST Lizzy can say about Wright is that he is NO BETTER than Phelps or Glenn and the WORST thing she can say about Glenn is that he is NO worse than Phelps or Wright. The Thoughtful Student will reach a cogent conclusion on where that places Lizzy’s Depth of Intellect and Breadth of Bigotry.
Personally I am gratified to return Wright’s Hatred for my Irish lack of Authentic Blackness in spades, and the Hatred of The Prhomos for my Religious Straightness in kind. They can both kiss my Irish Protestant Straight asz.
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RationalMan
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:56pmcivilwarcometh
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 9:04pm
I know some one Glenn hates… Woodrow Wilson..
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True Glenn, was attacking his policy, but, the only individual that pointed out Woodrow Wilson, was
Ayn Rand. Just like Glenn had mention and stated on his program this morning…”We are paying for
our own destruction”! This statement was also from “Ayn Rand”!
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Keatonc333
Mar. 6, 2013 at 12:57am“You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families. It took me about a year.”
-Glenn Beck
Found some thing else he hates!
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tankyjo
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:16pmI heard her interview today, wonderful. She said besides apologizing for her part, her greatest desire is to take the CULT down. Bless you Lauren.
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civilwarcometh
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:11pmWOW O’Rielly just went off on Combs. About time…
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The-Monk
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:14pmI just saw that and sent it in. : )
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OldSurfRat
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:21pmOh man that was good! YOUR A LIAR!
Combs tried to stand for a second and then got all soft voiced.
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BARRYS_BEARD
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:23pmBilly seems to have had a revelation of some sorts the past few weeks. Too bad he had his head shoved up his ass before the election.
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DEFCON4
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:25pmAs Monica Crowley pondered, “What the (bleep) Just Happened”
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civilwarcometh
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:45pmHere’s the video she has it up already.. http://twitchy.com/2013/03/05/bill-oreilly-calls-bull-blank-on-alan-colmes-claim-of-obama-spending-cuts/
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:00pmCrackerOne.
I am reminded of Michelangelo’s? statement: “The far greater danger for most of us is not that we aim to high and miss it, but that we aim too low and reach it.”
Think big. Think in terms of MEGADEATHS of Beechslaps. And not just Slaps but—–drawings and quarterings?
Think of it as striking a blow for both Inclusiveness and Diversity.
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RationalMan
Mar. 6, 2013 at 1:11amThe Big Mick
Posted on March 5, 2013 at 10:00pm
CrackerOne.
I am reminded of Michelangelo’s? statement: “The far greater danger for most of us is not that we aim to high and miss it…..
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Wow, Michelangelo’s really made that statement???
BTW, speaking about Michelangelo’s, do you know what made him famous for doing the painting of
the Sistine Chapel?
Just curious…
BTW, I know the answer, do you?
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:09pmI’m happy she saw the light and moved on from the bigoted dogma of the Westboro “church.”
Some of you Blaze commenters need to take note of Ms. Drain’s story and realize how closely you sound to what she described.
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LimitedLiabilityUser
Mar. 5, 2013 at 8:54pm@DANIELMCHICK
“As it is written: ‘God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you’” Roams 2:24.
The Westboro Baptist church preach a false-gospel. While they hold to the Westminster Baptist Confession and the 1689 Baptist Confession, they move past sound biblical doctrine into the realm of hyper-Calvinism. They do not preach a gospel of salvation for sinners from the Lord Jesus Christ, but rather continue to condemn them as hopeless. Christ saved us while we were sinners and His enemies. I agree that homosexuality is an abhorrent sin and is unnatural, but we need to understand that not just homosexuals will be thrown into the lake of fire, but all those who have not been washed by Christ’s blood and are written in the Book of Life. Christ did not tell us to protest and picket the world, but with all love and compassion rebuke, admonish, exhort, and warn the lost with the good news of our Lord through hearing the word of God, being witnesses for Christ in both word and deed. God bless.
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:11pmBasically, God hates homosexuals. You are parroting their line without even realizing it, all the while dressing it up in flowery language to disguise the fact that you truly do feel the way you do.
It’s about time you realized just how much your ideologies parallel.
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:03pmROFL.
Yeah, I don’t let Civil War talk to anybody that doesn’t post on Beck.
(moron)
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:13pmDAMCHICK
The Observant Student will note that Chickyboy here is asserting that: “To say Homosexuality is a Perversion is to be de facto a Cult Member.”
Thus he consigns The Christian Orthodoxy of 2 millennia, believed everywhere, by all, always, to “cult” status.
The Thoughtful Student will thus have reached a cogent conclusion as to the Depth of Chicky’s Intellect and the Breadth of his Bigotry.
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Nevertakecandyfromsocialists
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:20pmMaybe you should reread that, you seemed to have completely missed the point. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. The idea is for the sinner to turn away from the sin and be forgiven. He has given everyone free will to decide if they will act on their sinful urges or not. But if it would make you feel better to throw some other groups under the bus, here you go.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11;18-20
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
See? He wants everyone to keep their pants on and stop the shenanigans. Feel better?
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:21pmArgumentum ad populum fallacy is the best you’ve got? You can’t defend the belief on its merits, thus you must state how long it’s been around as if that’s justice?
Please. Slavery has been around for almost a millennium. Does that make it okay too?
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:29pmYou do realize that homosexuality is more than simple sexual “immorality,” right?
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Nevertakecandyfromsocialists
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:46pmYou were discussing the religious aspect and from a religious standpoint the sexual act itself is the sin, since you are in control of your own actions (free will).
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:56pmAccording to a sociology that didn’t understand homosexuality, as well as 2000 years of mistranslation.
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Nevertakecandyfromsocialists
Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:59pmThere is nothing new under the sun.
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:13pmIn regards to what?
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Nevertakecandyfromsocialists
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:37pmHuman nature. Each generation just thinks they are discovering something new. You could quote research suggesting a genetic cause and I could argue an environmental component, but the behavior remains the same. Bottom line, while you make demands that Christians tolerate your opinion on this subject you are not generous enough to tolerate theirs.
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The Big Mick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:52pmGot it in one NEVCANDY
Whole point to Que Ear marriage is to use the Imprimatur of The STATE to “norm’” que ear sex, THEN to use the POWER of The STATE to SILENCE any who refuse to “norm” it. Already being tried in Canada and Switzerland. More to the point here, the whole point to this Ivy League Sex Shop Tour was to NORM Perversion. THAT’s the end game here, to NORM Perversion then to SILENCE the dissenting voices.
You got Chickybabe exactly right.
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danielmchick
Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:59pmPlease don’t assume my motivation because you seem to grossly misrepresent me every time you do via Glenn Beck talking points.
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