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You Will Never Believe Who Said ‘Rand Paul Is the MAN’ for Filibuster — Seriously, You Won’t
Former Obama White House advisor Van Jones on Wednesday showed his support for libertarian Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his nearly 13 hour filibuster on the Senate floor over potential drone strikes on U.S. soil.
“Rand Paul is the MAN right now,” Jones tweeted.
.@senrandpaul is the MAN right now. #Hate2AdmitIt #p2 #tcot #NoDrones
— Van Jones (@VanJones68) March 7, 2013
Just as a side note, #StandWithRand was the number one trending topic on Twitter at one point… in the entire world. It seems that America has sent Washington a clear message on the issue of drone strikes on U.S. soil.
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:00amI can say, Senator Rand Paul was excellent, articulate and specific in all of his facts. Ted Cruz is a stand out, AWESOME. When Cruz read parts of Reagan’s ’64 speech it was like Reagan was here again, only BETTER. Mike Lee was great. These 2 helped Rand the most during the whole day and night. One lonely Dem from Oregon showed up in support and concern. Good for him!
They all made Dick Durbin look like the dirty little commie **** kisser he is!
It was great to see the support from: Braasso- WY, Moran KS, Ron Johnson WI, Tim Scott SC, Jeff Flake AZ, Toomey PA, Thune SD, Rubio FL, McConnell, KY. It was a Constitution love fest.
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Xanderson
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:21amIt was a great day/night for all these senators… I just hope our president feels a fraction of the shame he SHOULD feel about remaining silent all day!! Mind boggling that there are folks in this country that don’t get how all of our liberties are under attack these days!
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Mil Mom
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:38am@PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:00am
I can say, Senator Rand Paul was excellent, articulate and specific in all of his facts. Ted Cruz is a stand out, AWESOME. When Cruz read parts of Reagan’s ’64 speech it was like Reagan was here again, only BETTER. Mike Lee was great. These 2 helped Rand the most during the whole day and night. One lonely Dem from Oregon showed up in support and concern. Good for him!
They all made Dick Durbin look like the dirty little commie **** kisser he is!
It was great to see the support from: Braasso- WY, Moran KS, Ron Johnson WI, Tim Scott SC, Jeff Flake AZ, Toomey PA, Thune SD, Rubio FL, McConnell, KY. It was a Constitution love fest
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Really encouraged as the Chamber filled up, it was like God was sending in Roto Rooter to clean out that cesspool on the Potomoc! God has begun working, keep on praying for All and Glenn and staff too, Bible says wrestle agains spiritual wickedness in high places, and they won’t leave easily. Check out Psalm 91
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Baddoggy
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 5:11amThere is a remnant of REAL men still left in washington. Time to get rid of the Newys McCains Grahams Chamblisses and all the other progressive spineless big Government infiltrators.
First step to cleaning out Washington! These men are the ones who are not afraid to clean the cesspool of corruption, Communism and Marxism.
Now…how do we support them in new and different ways? Just an atta boy will not do!
Maybe link arms around the White House lawn fordays on end? It’s close to the American people now anyway!!!
Maybe standing outside by the hudreds of thousands on a rotating basis?
We need to do something to show our support for these men!
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redfish52
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 7:52amPeople are going to wake up to what this administration is trying to push through behind the scenes…even the liberal progressive’s…wrong is wrong. It is unconstitutional to execute American Citizens on American soil without due process unless they are posing an emanate threat against Americans. Also, to execute one person and by doing so killing 6 Innocent Americans just because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time is unacceptable. Van Jones knows this is wrong. They are using the UN Small Arms Treaty as the lynch pin for their dirty work…The problem is that the UN is not allowed on Sovereign US Soil and never will. They will and should be considered an invading army…period!
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bigbear_awake
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 8:06amTO Cause Americans to pay for not giving bho what he wants and the DRONES along with a WHOLE LIST OF HIS EX-ORDERS are IMPEACHABLE But who is got the spine to do it or even put it on paper
obama DOES NOT CARE and will just double down and move faster that what he is going
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ambrosia
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 8:28amConsider this “Capitol Crop Rotation”.
Farmers do it, artists & creative individuals do it-
now, FINALLY…new, fresh-faced public servants do it.
They all know by rotating & cultivating seed, idea and goals
every year or so, it makes for rich & fertile growth.
The old stodgy guard on Capitol Hill have got to go-
don’t just rotate them out of office, send them off to the hinderlands for good.
That includes all the Dems AND Repubs
who spit & sputter away OUR freedom,
zap American spirit,
siphon off security & stunt OUR country’s growth.
We are watching “Capitol Crop Rotation” take place
before our very eyes-
Rand Paul is manning the plow.
Turn over the dirt and sow, America-
this was all part of the plan…our founders & Breitbart are high-fiving.
In the background, the diminutive, despicable “Leader” looks weaker
and insanely less steady, day by day.
Paul, Cruz, Lee give us reason to still believe in this great reason-
it’s about time !
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jakartaman
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 8:30amThank God the young guns are up to the job.
Now all we have to do is get more of them into government in 2014
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sbish
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 9:47amI watched the last 2 hours of the filibuster last night, and it was truly awe inspiring. Well done, Rand!
Also, watched one of the MSNBC shows last night (when I can’t get a straight answer out of the President and his Admin, I can always go to MSNBC to understand the rationale for whatever ridiculous policy is being put Forward) to see what those tools were saying on the subject, and it was facinating what I saw and interpreted from the conversations between the 5 on the panel. Generally, they focused on Right Wing Radicals, militia types etc… and pulled out a bunch of studies out of moth balls from the same usual nobody scientist who always prop up Leftwing ideology with unscientific and biased stats and conclusions, all of which point to the eminent danger these “conservative” ideologues, much more than Muslim Fundamentalist. To paraphrase the conversation, the Left’s belief is that Right Wing Radicals are today’s biggest threat within our borders, that they have performed several times more actual attacks on this country in the past 10 years than any other group, and that it is a matter of time before another Timothy McVey-like strike happens, if not worse. While they did not come straight out and say it, they implied that drone attacks just might be handy in the event these Rightwing nuts go militaristic on all of us. I have to believe, sense these loons are always whispering in the President’s ear, and that they share the same ideology, Obama himself agr
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IndyGuy
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 9:54am@Jason Howerton/TheBlaze…..Please stop giving Van Jones a mention….He is a self avowed Communist and you are playing into his attempts at credibility…If you still feel the need to mention him in the future,at the very least be sure to point out the fact that he is a COMMUNIST….Thank you….
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georgette
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 9:55am…We were privileged to witness the rarest of moments–history was made…. Real Men showed up ……. their names are.worthy of remembrance…..God Bless them, every one.
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GrayPanther
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:22amAmen. And we need to see more true spirit from Republicans. And it DOES show Democrats as being anti Constitutional Communists.
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pap pap
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:34amIt’s so nice to see someone in Congress stand up for the Constitution these days. That should be part of everyday’s service for the country instead of the usual dis-service we get from congress. It also helps highlight the shredding of the Constitution by the Obama and the Demorats.
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JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:34amGet a free Rand Paul bumper sticker at http://freerandsticker.com
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jasonrobinson
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:58amSadly, Idaho’s senators are mostly gutless when it comes to standing up for civil rights.
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SciPro
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 11:51amHa, … John Mcain didn’t treat Rand Paul’s filibuster with any favor. I would say, listening to C-Span, John Mcain is the repub that needs firing. He is the reason Republicans have “no” heart. … just saying,
Still the discussion continues .. on C-Span
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Idaho_Roper
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:01pm@Jason
Idaho may be the most republican state in the union, but they are far from the most conservative state. We are overrun by RINO’s, the governor included. It is time for people to wake up and realize that the R party is not looking out for you either. There were/are several valid libertarian candidates in Idaho, one has to look past the slanderous attack campaigns conducted by the establishment and vote them in.
I am not surprised in the least that neither of our RINO senators were there.
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Tall Tal
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:25pmIt would seem to us who on thr right that Mccain and Graham should learn that their way is in the past. We want postive leadership ,not passive or moderate speakers and excuse makerrs like these two. so I say to go retire and the Gop move forward
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IndyGuy
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:57pm@Tall Tal…Those 2 are and always have been appeasers…They talk big at opportune times and then fold like a cheap lawn chair….They are comfortable with Progressive/Communists running things…..Yes they need to be shown the door by their constituents…
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Fubared
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 6:24pmWhat IndyGuy said, both times.
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lbk
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:57amI may not agree with some of Rand Pauls decisions but BY THE GOD at least he has the insight to see that the Obama administrations IS SHREDDING THE CONSTITUTION and has the balls to try and do SOMETHING. More than anyone can say about the rest of those polititions.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:13amYes, but Libertarians like Rand Paul just want Government OUT of their personal biznaz and they are NOT Conservatives. Rand Paul is NOT a Conservative. Don’t be DUPED!
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BSdetector
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 7:10amEven better.
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Toltepeceno
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 9:13amBetter him than odumbo.
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JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:38am@ShorelineLiz:
Yeah, me too. I guess it’s safe to assume you DO want the feds in yer business. Why don’t you just vote democrat?
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:28pm@BSdetector, DITTO!
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uslawman1983
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:50amThank you Senator Paul for standing up and fighting. THanks also to Sen. Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Scott, Barrasso, Johnson and the others for helping him tow the line. NOW KEEP IT GOING!!!
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sparkyrules
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:56amDitto.So Far.
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TAXEVERYONE
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:37amYes thank you all and please have a little talk with Burr from NC.
This will be his last term.
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THX-1138
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:37amVan Knows Show Biz.
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:29pmExactly, just like this regime VanJones never says what he means and never means what he says.
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soap on a rope
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:32amWow. Just wow. I am speechless.
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AMERICA4EVER
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:48amWe are seeing a few now jump ship.
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:26amI know right? Van jones? The last guy you would expect.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:06amI just dropped my chicken wing in my Schlitz Malt Liquor and my stick of weed just lit my carpet on fire! As soon as I heard the news I had to put down my copy of Communists Monthly and go recycle something green. Van Jones did you say? Who the hell is Van Jones?
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CommonSenseTalk
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:25amThe president does not want to give away his power to kill anyone anytime he wants. If does not care about the constitution and the sooner we understand that the better. Good for Mr Paul for doing something in government!
Who care why he is doing it, he is doing something!
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:23amVan Jones hates everything good that America stands for.
He’s on my top ten POS list.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:14amHe is on my POS list too. NO one should care a dam about what he says. That he supports Rand Paul on this is LMAO Laughable! this just makes good theater. Just a show. Rand Paul voted for Hagel, Lew and he is a Libertarian which means LIBERAL.
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sparkyrules
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:23amVan Jones words concerning the USA Constitution are about as weak as my ass over a toilet.Bye,see ya later…..turd
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SmarterThanTheAverageBear
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:21amThank you Rand Paul!
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TurboCat
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 2:42amI watched most of Rand Paul’s filibuster today and could not tear myself away for hours! He’s awesome and I learned a lot from listening to him. He’s sincere, knowledgeable, and righteous. I’d vote for him in a heartbeat if he runs for President! I found his courage to be inspiring and heroic! Take on that administration, you Congress members! Fight back already!
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:12amRand Paul is NO Jimmy Stewart. Don’t be DUPED. Libertarian Equals LIBERAL!
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 9:36am@Shore
libertarian means “classic” liberal….as in someone that stands for personal liberty and freedom… granted the big “L” Libertarian Party is just a Liberal Progressive lite party…but not those of us that are libertarian minded conservatives or constitutional libertarians, like Rand Paul.
there actually is a conservative libertarian constitutional case to be made for State/local control of education, marriage policy, drug policy, EPA and FDA functions, and many many more functions that the Federal government has usurped.
the problem is that the libertarian and constitutionalist wings of the GOP have been making these arguments since before the Progressives and the DNC saw another voting block they could corrupt and co-opt for gain. now the Progressives frame the argument and people like you believe anyone that agrees is the same as they are. this is analogous to all the Paul-bots out there raining hate and vitriol down on anyone that DARE question King Ron and his greatness.
so, as a libertarian minded conservative Constitutionalist, I find myself DAILY listening to Cruz, Lee, and Paul and beginning to understand MORE the rational and logic behind their arguments. Now unlike some pure libertarians that want no oversight, I think marriage, drug policy, and the like should be handled at the State and local level only and people can “vote with their feet” if they disagree with the citizens of that State or city.
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LameLiberals
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:17amBenjamin Franklin
Those who give up freedoms for security – DESERVE NEITHER
TO the RINOs and liberals who WANT to throw the constitution (and the 10 amendments) in the trash and APPROVE of TSA searching us WITHOUT PROBABLY CAUSE/Judge warrant in subways/train stations/airports and campaign rallies (TSA was at Paul Ryans AND Romney’s rallies) – and THINK Is it OK to throw the 4th amendments under the bus because the TSA gives us security/keeps us safe – YOU ARE STUPID!!!! Read AGAIN what Ben Franklin said. Ditto for those SHEEPLE in both parties who support the Patroit Act and NDAA. This drone killing INSIDE the USA is an EXTENSION of NDAA. The LOSS OF FREEDOM IS SPREADING every time the SHEEP squeal SAVE US SAVE US.
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SilentReader
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:10amAnyone who wouldn’t stand with Rand Paul on this would be suicidal! This is Rand Paul’s finest hour! For this he will be remembered by every American who values freedom and the U.S. Constitution!
Everyone should be standing with Rand Paul! Every sane American, that is!
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CatB
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:16amAfter midnight .. and more Senators and activity than you usually see during a normal day at the Senate … I am so proud of Rand Paul ..
Anyone can sign the Stand with Rand Petition at ….
http://www.chooseliberty.org/standwithrand.aspx?pid=0306y
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:50amMr. Holder also said he is not sure Congress could ban the president from using drones to kill Americans on U.S. soil.
REMEMBER those words. REMEMBER what type of threat we are living under. I just sent Sen. Ted Cruz a Tweet saying that he and Sen. Paul just raised the bar as far was what MEN were supposed to be. They Slayed the dragons but there are many dragons left to slay.
Talk about a shot in the arm for PATRIOTS!!! PAUL, CRUZ, RUBIO SOME brave new voices to replace the hackneyed RINO whines of McCain and Graham. WE STAND WITH RAND!
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:24amWe called 5 Senator’s numbers earlier this evening and all mail boxes were full. Both Texas senators, Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, also Rand Paul ,Marco Rubio, and Mike Lee. So proud of them.
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:28amCatb- Weren’t you the one demonizing Paul not too long ago on the Hagel vote? Calling him a traitor or cop out or whatever? If yes, then stay consistent you know how we don’t like flip floppers (Romney).
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CatB
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 7:57amDLV .. we can see now that he was picking his battle … as I and others have said in multiple posts … we are so used to being sold out by those who claim to hold the same values as ours we have that didn’t give him the benefit of the doubt …I will cut him more leeway in the future.
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christhefanatic
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:08amWhen a total loony says something that makes sense…it doesn’t mean that he is coming to his senses. In fact, it probably suggests he is even crazier that than you, at first, thought.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:33amSpot on!!
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:29amJust curious, what’s your reasoning he is getting crazier than he already is? I mean evidence wise.
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MisterSarcastic
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:05amThis is a set up. Some how it has to be a set up.
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whatthecrazy
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:16amNow why are you trying to harsh my mellow?:)))
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:11amYou are darn right it is a set up. Libertarian Equals LIBERAL. Rand voted for Hagel and Lew and a bunch of other appointees. His reasoning SUCKED!
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qualityrkc
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 7:57amits only confusing to you people bc you have been pumped up with so much propaganda about van jones by right wing media. he is actually a really good guy. a little naive about obama but kind and well intentioned and def not fanatical. if anything this should make you question your sources bc to most of us this is not surprising at all.
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:36pm@qualityrkc, another NO information liberal. Van Jones is a member of the communist party and an Oakland radical trying to overthrow the government.
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checkingbothsides
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 2:09pmWhy? Before Obama, we Progressives were the party of civil liberties. Remember every time we protested against the Patriot Act? Remember our commitment to due process and fair trials? It is THAT astonishing that we’re done giving Obama a free pass just because he has a D after his name?
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GoodStuff
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:05amYou’re all a bunch of fools.
Rand voted for Kerry, Hagel and Lew.
You’re all drunk on stupidity. Rand doesn’t care about your freedom. He cares about his career.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:11am” Rand doesn’t care about your freedom. He cares about his career.”
Who doesnt up there…..You got someone better in mind? Shall we go back to Mcain, Romney, or santorum?
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titan
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:13amwell i have to agree with you on this one. and i just don’t trust him.
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cddbrowns
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:22amAs soon as you point to a PERFECT candidate, STFU and vote for the best case scenario……..tired of you azzhats not voting for some stupid narcissistic reason to make a point, while the rest of us have to deal with your stupidity.
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CatB
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:25amI believe after listening to almost ALL of the filibuster today .. that Rand was picking his battle … and this is the TIME AND THE PLACE to stand up for American Citizens ..
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dmerwin
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:43amhttp://www.theblaze.com/users/cddbrowns/
Amen brother! Stand up like you have a pair! Well said, we have had a really substandard crew to represent us of late. This is a man I can support! Note to republicans. 1 stand for something. 2 Publically support your position. 3 Prepare to die on that hill. 4 Look for millions to support you! 5 “compromise” and lose for you stand with the opposition.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:45amIf Rand Paul took McConnell’s job and Amash took Boehner’s, we would have a fighting chance
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:33amGoodstuff- For the love of God, you are embarrassment to conservatives. So he voted for Hagel BFD… Every rhino has done things 10x worse. Paul makes any other conservative… well look like a liberal…. I just don’t think it’s a big deal he voted in Kerry and Hagel on something that’s extremely minor in the long run. Many conservatives just got their panties in a wad when he didn’t go lockstep on how we want him. So what are we liberals now? No other points of view!
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:48am@Goodstuff You’re just jealous about us being stupid. Sticks and stones.
@CatB I think you are right.
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Mil Mom
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:49am@CatB
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:25am
I believe after listening to almost ALL of the filibuster today .. that Rand was picking his battle … and this is the TIME AND THE PLACE to stand up for American Citizens
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I agree totally, and he was able to say constantly this wasn’t a partisan fight he cast those votes I disagreed with. Maybe God had a reason to let him do it. His words and those of Cruz, Rubio and the rest were just the encouragement those of us believing and praying for our country needed. God is at work, and the whole world is watching, that’ll make it harder to paint them as “right wing fanatics” if they’ve been heard world wide.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:09amYou are darn right Good stuff. Rand is a major flip flopper.
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HotFixIt
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:58pmI saw that retweeted… nearly fell off the couch! Amazing when standing for principles commands respect…. I definitely stand with Rand Paul!
Hopefully some libreals will learn something from this.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:18amRand Paul IS a LIberal. Why do you think he voted for Hagel and Lew? Why do you think Van Jones stood up with him. Get a clue! Wake up. Libertarians are Liberals. Just watch the JOhn Stossel show. Better yet, watch the exchange between Ann Coulter and John Stossel.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:00am@Shore
you apparently don’t watch Stossel that much…he will tell you himself that he was a very liberal progressive until he started doing “consumer reporting” and researching and finding out that all these idiotic rules were written by Progressives…then he began to move right.
does he still believe the “war on drugs”, “war on poverty”, and “war on terror” are a joke? Yes… and the more you research them you realize he is RIGHT!! especially when you research “eugenics” and Planned Parenthood and their true goals (extermination of all “burdens” on society). especially when you research how the illiteracy rates and poverty rates, drug use rates, and unwed birth rates have risen since all these things started.
now if you believe in the Constitution, then you believe that the 9th and 10th RESTRICT the FED from stepping into the private lives of citizens and the area of local and State government, you believe that the FED can do NOTHING to restrict our personal liberty, including who we sleep with or eat or drink or smoke or inject. UNTIL I commit a crime (crime being something that actually does or has the potential to deprive another of their personal liberty) then the FED MUST leave me alone. The example is DUI…if I stay at home or at the bar and never drive, I can get as drunk as I like with no crime but as soon as I drive, I am in danger of depriving another of Life which is a right the government MUST protect, hence the crime.
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maggiepie
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:58pmRight now Rand Paul and the few Senators standing with him should be applauded.
We should all remember who they are.
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 1:40amApplause, applause, applause. Encore. Rand Paul is the Man, doesn’t matter who says it. Thanks to both our Texas senators and all those who stand with him. You make us proud.
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:16amRand voted for Hagel and Lew. Next week he fill flip flop on something else. He is NOT a Conservative. He is a LIbertarian like his crazy ass old man. Libertarian Equals Liberal. Just watch John Stossel and you will find out what Rand is all about.
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spirited
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:56pmMr. white people put poison in the water
to kill non-white people
doesn’t like no people getting killed.
>What’s he really up to?
Probably trying to counter-act Rand Paul attention.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:55pmThis is not surprising at all. In fact, there is some common ground with liberals – if only the republican party consistently applied the constitution and founding principles….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZTZoG1wCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCr3dtDv1o
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 2:10amI just wanna bring this up with you Soy because this is one of the only areas where I disagree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy and I was shocked to find myself in agreement with Piers Morgan….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1kt-DRhiYk
Additionally a-jad is also interviewed by Morgan and dodges the Israel wiped off the map quote and then more or less denies the holocaust. His contempt for the jews is clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWfwg_Vpm0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4thIsiCYqMg
As I mentioned before, I don’t think we should be striking anyone unless there is a imminent danger to us or our allies.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 8:25ami always scratch my head at sentiments like yours because you object to the foreign policy of ron paul but not GW Bush.
There is no way to rationalize this, you are ideologically set on a certain path. But i would argue your ideology is based on revisionist history….For example, most people have no idea about the leadup to our involvement in WWI. Most people do not understand that FDR and the admin knew the japanese were planning an attack and there is plenty of evidence to suggest they encouraged the attack and did nothing to prevent it. Most people do not know about the US involvement in Iran since the ’50s.
When you research those things (including Lincoln and the civil war), you find out about the nature of government and war
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checkingbothsides
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 2:14pmSoybomb – THANK YOU. I’ve been waiting for somebody on this site to say it. Liberals and Libertarians agree on a lot of civil liberty issues. I think those of us on the left are getting tired of Obama taking advantage of our loyalty. Aren’t you tired of getting taken advantage of by the GOP?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. A congress of Progressives and Libertarians could get SO much more done than the current quagmire.
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 3:06pmbut not GW Bush.”
That’s a big assumption Soy. I did object to a lot of W’s foreign policies. Each day that passes, I am more and more against the Iraq War.
“For example, most people have no idea about the leadup to our involvement in WWI.”
I’m a history major Soy. I’m aware Wilson wanted us to get involved in WW1 so we could get a position on the front stage in the world and be more involved. The U.N. and all.
Most people do not understand that FDR and the admin knew the japanese were planning an attack and there is plenty of evidence to suggest they encouraged the attack and did nothing to prevent it.”
Doesn’t surprise me. After all, during the war, FDR, Stalin, and churchill got together and were talking about policing the world so another Nazi Germany didn’t rise. Essentially, FDR wanted us to be policeman of the world. I know. This is still doesn’t refute the fact that there is a big problem in the insanity of Iran.
Most people do not know about the US involvement in Iran since the ’50s.”
The govenrment tries to get involved everywhere such as selling weapons to the taliban so they could beat back the Russian army in the 70s. I’m aware of this too. I’m against us being Policeman of the world but I think it’s foolhardy to ignore Iran’s threat and the danger they pose to our ally Israel. I mean if you saw your friend getting the crap kicked out of him would you intervene?
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resme
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:41pm@dlv, You also have to remember the same government who lies all the time is the same government saying Iran posses a threat. Example : You won’t get cancer from inhaling the debris from the trade centers ( what they told the firefighters). Example : Saddam was directly behind 9/11. (Bush + Cheney propagated this lie for a couple years during interviews) http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm
I’m not excusing Iran’s actions — Just pointing out the lies.
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 5:13pmresme- I agree. I don’t really trust the government on anything but if it’s possible, I trust Iran’s crazy government even less. The demeanor of A-jad in those videos is scary. Morgan asked him a simple yes or no question and the man went out of his way to dodge the question. Morgan was more or less saying “just say no you don’t believe in the holocaust, we just want to know!” And A-jad just said “Well the question is much more complex yadda yadda etc.” In other words, the fact he is so flimsy on this pretty much means he doesn’t believe in the holocaust and I firmly believe if given the opportunity his government would try to eradicate our friends.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 5:59pmDLV
Based on what you wrote…..Overall you agree with ron paul’s foreign policy more than GW Bush/McCain/Romney (yes, they are the same). So why do you act like Ron Paul’s is so much worse? Why not just say you “dont agree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy completely but I agree with the neocon republican’s even less”???
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DLV
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 6:33pmSoy- thats pretty much right. I agree with most of his foreign policy, I just feel like ht Iran issue is going to be very important in the coming years.
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Ted Sheckler
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:53pmF van and I am doing a #PaulNighter
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DJR
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:52pmThat’ll be the day when Jones supports any republican on anything
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 4:20amYes. and Rand Paul is a Libertarian like his father Ron Paul. Rand Paul just USES the GOP to get some of his stuff done. He is a MAJOR FLIP FLOPPER. This is all about Rand Paul and HIS CAREER.
@Good STuff:
You nailed it buddy. This is a carefully crafted SHOW to get Rand Paul out there. He is running for President in 2016, right? Yeah. This is just THEATER.
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JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:54amYes, Liz, it’s all part of our awful plan to replace you RINOs with men like Rand Paul, and there’s nothing you can do about it. We believe in such evil things as freedom, liberty, and strict adherence to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Take a breath, Liz.
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Elena2010
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:52pmThe extra-judicial killing of US citizens, even overseas, is un-Constitutional! Rand, you ARE the Man!
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WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:49pmPrincipled men are to be respected. I don’t respect Van Jones because he refuses to come out and say “Yes, I still belive Communism is the best.” But I do respect that he’s giving respect to Rand Paul for being a principled person.
Rand Paul 2016!
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GoodStuff
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:05amRand voted for Hagel.
Rand voted for Hagel.
Rand voted for Hagel.
Rand voted for Hagel.
Rand voted for Hagel.
Rand voted for Hagel.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:10amHopefully Hagel will end the perpetual wars….Did you really expect Obama to nominate someone better?
I would take Hagel over Rice, Bolton, or any other shill the republican establishment would nominate
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CapnCrumbles32
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 3:23amOnly 4 R Senators approved Hagel’s nomination. One of them was Rand Paul. Rand Paul is very good on Constitutional issues, however people should be aware of the fact that he wants to substantially draw back America’s military influence around the world. Do we need to draw back? Absolutely! Could it have very dangerous consequences for us should we draw back too extensively? Yes! Rand Paul has a mixed record regarding Israel, one where he provides lip service calling them our best ally, while also commenting that the U.S. should not provide aid to ANY foreign nation. If you like Rand’s domestic policy and preservation of Constitutional authority, yet believe in a strong national defense and steadfast support of Israel, you are better off backing someone like Toomey, Cruz, Lee, or Rubio (assuming he doesn’t cave on immigration).
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:06amLOL SOY…of course someone who thinks like you wouldn’t bat an eye at nominating an antisemite to a position like that…better than rice??? You’re out of your mind
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WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:05pm@GOODSTUFF: Yes, Rand voted for Hagel. So what? The POTUS has the right to pick as crappy of a cabinet as he wants. The filibuster wasn’t even about Brennand, really. It was to get clarification, or at least cast a bright light on the lack of position Obama has taken on the killing of American citizens policy.
Mission accomplished!
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Oath-keeper
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:45pmOpening eyes on the Constitution, maybe now they will remove us Constitution loving Americans from their domestic terrorist list,………NOT, haha a man w convictions showing all the pathbreaking wing nuts in office the only reason they exist is to uphold and defend it.
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Oath-keeper
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:50pmThat is oath breakers sorry not path breakers, I can spell but not on the blaze, I swear they use anti grammar software.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:45pmVan Jones — LOL!
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CatB
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:27amHe could be worried someone would send a drone on him .. he might be right.
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Patriot760
Posted on March 6, 2013 at 11:44pmYeah, Van Jones the commie doesn’t want drone strikes on U. S. citizens because it would set a precedent and a Republican president could blow his commie, traitor, top down, bottom up, inside out ass to hell!
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Diane TX
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 12:20amPATRIOT760,
I think you got it exactly right.
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checkingbothsides
Posted on March 7, 2013 at 2:17pmSure he is, and he SHOULD be! Aren’t you worried that some leftist will do the same to your right wing ass?
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