‘Let Go of the System’: How Can Parents & Teachers Stop CSCOPE?
On Thursday TheBlaze along with The Glenn Beck Program delved deeply into the controversial curriculum system sweeping Texas schools known as CSCOPE. From issuing gag orders on teachers to bar them from talking about lesson plans, to preventing parents from obtaining information about what their children are being taught, the way CSCOPE operates almost seems like a work of fiction. Disturbingly, it is not.
Following up on issues covered by his panel the night before, Beck on Friday discussed what teachers and parents can actually do to stop the effects of what’s being called an “oppressive” curriculum management system.
“The best thing is to educate yourself as a teacher on what it [CSCOPE] is,” Beck said. “As a parent, get your kids out of the public school system… Do not let another day go by with kids being indoctrinated.”
Historian and Texas native David Barton said parents should broach the subject with the curriculum directors of their children’s schools and engage the school superintendent.
“Teach kids what is right,” Barton said.
Barton and Pat Gray both said it’s important for parents and teachers to focus on their school boards and, more pointedly, the local election process, because citizens are most effective at the local level.
Barton explained that CSCOPE is operating outside of Texas, typically under the generic Common Core standards name and that there are variations of CSCOPE in other states.
The public education and traditional university system is “killing our ingenuity,” Beck said.
He noted that there have been many successful people, including famed CEOs and entrepreneurs, who did not go the route of traditional education. Beck qualified that wasn’t saying education is not important, but that the system by which it’s sometimes delivered can be inherently flawed.
“Don’t let go of education, but let go of the system,” Beck said. “You can think out of the box.”
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The_Fifth_Column
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 4:15pmHow to beat them? TAKE YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF THESE PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!!!! I thank God every day that I have the financial ability to send all seven of my Grandchildren to private schools. If I didn’t have the money, I would do whatever I had to do, to get them out of these ‘Communist/Socialist Indoctrination Centers’. Get your kid’s out of these so called schools people!
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TeslanEdison
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 8:27pmWe all know some dem libs with the support of some communist leaning republicans are working on how to make it illegal to home school starting with Pre-K it’ll be a mandate ala Obamacare. Why would they do this, well if everyone isn’t sending their kids to the schools then the enrollment numbers go down which forces them to lower taxes and they can’t do that because that funds the unions. The indoctrination must continue so they can have more useful consumer idiots. They will select a few “smart privileged students” and track them toward success, so if you have 89 students 10 will be groomed to be “leaders”. Out of those 10 something like 2 are expected to graduate and do something in their field of expertise that is of leader ship quality. America should revolt at those numbers, they are saying that more than 50% of your kids they are just going to push through the system with no real education beyond that which will make them capable of working in, low wage jobs in food services, and labor. If you’re saying that’s all I ever had, get a clue this is 2013 most home owners are paying 4000 dollars a year to educate a child. Oh but those school admins have the right to make as much as a Nuclear Engineer?? The insanity must stop… pull the plug on the unions and get your kids out of the schools until America resets the communist system in place is only going to make your child A-moral and more useless in terms of being a Christian Human being.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 9:46pmTrue. Do know what happens when kids learn about evolution and the the big bang and global warming and other areas of science in school? They become scientists that’s what. And they go on to promote all this extremist liberal dogma, this so called “science”, and also many go on to keep America on the forefront of the world in medicine, physics, computer science and other science, including military technology.
Little wonder we have the best medical facilities and doctors in the world, even if we rank really low in the world as far as medical care for the average person.
By all means don’t expose your kids to science, or if you do, make sure you explain how any scientific idea that conflicts with your political or religious beliefs is wrong. Naturally. They’ll make good pastors although they’re unlikely to contribute much to the advancement of science.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:24pm@Sendthemeteors
By all means don’t expose your kids to science, or if you do, make sure you explain how any scientific idea that conflicts with your political or religious beliefs is wrong. Naturally. They’ll make good pastors although they’re unlikely to contribute much to the advancement of science
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Who are the scientists that you hold in such high esteem? You are quick to attach disagreement to religious zealots. I am amazed by your quick observation of what alternative views about science concludes.
You must be an elite individual with astute observations. You impress me with your wisdom and ideology.
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glassaudioguy
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:44pmUnfortunately not everyone is cut out to do home schooling nor can they necessarily afford a private school. My wife had a complete meltdown after trying to do it with our two kids after only two years. What then?
One thing I’ve suggested before is for Glenn’s team, or perhaps David Barton, assemble some sort of curriculum that could be used for home schooling, or barring that, as an extended Sunday School curriculum for conservative churches. The teachers tell them “This is what you’re public school will never teach you.”
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brother_ed
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:05am@SENDTHEMETEORS
I have no problem with my children learning science.
If my religion cannot withstand truth, then it is not much of a religion.
The problem is not the ‘facts’ my children learn, rather it is the agenda they are being taught.
Most arguments have more than one side.
Global warming (climate change) may indeed be occurring, but to insist that man is the cause is not proven.
There may be an increasing gap between the ‘haves’ and the ‘have nots’ may be provable, but to insist capitalism is the cause is debatable.
If schools taught facts, that would be fine, but it is apparent that they teach an agenda.
Public schools are run by the government (read politicians) and we all know they have an agenda.
Private schools, likewise have an agenda.
The best thing to do is to let everyone school their children as they see fit and let the results speak for themselves.
The more government intervention, the less likely we are to achieve real progress – which I thought was the goal of the ‘Progressives’.
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addie
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:31am@sendthemeteors (aka, braindead) – are you kidding me? Science? Since when are our schools teaching science? (not for 25 years at least!) While we are at it, our schools arent teaching math or english either! They are wasting away teaching about LBGT and social issues rather than math, science and english. Heck, schools are not even teaching history, they are changing history to suit their agenda. Do you know what happens when you dont learn history? You repeat it, yup, that’s right, you repeat it. Want to talk about global warming? Lets take numbers (although if you went to public school you probably will not understand what I am about to type)
In order to do a scientific analysis you absolutely need a baseline. (I know, I just lost you already, you have no clue what I mean by baseline) This earth is over 3+ BILLION years old, (that is BILLION with a capital B). Global warming data is just over the last 100 or so years of JUNK data. You cannot possibly do an analysis of the last hundred years of a 3+ BILLION year old planet and call it scientific. DUH! That would be like asking one person in the world what their opinion is and call it scientific. But that is what we get from the liberals who think they are so smart. We get JUNK! Not science! Not math, just JUNK! You think you are so smart, well honey, think again….sadly, I dont think you are capable of thinking period! No run along little girl!
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Chancellor
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:50amMeteor Global warming is a joke pushed by al and his host of large companies to make million on the carbon taxes. The current school system should be torn apart and children taught at home through computers with the families raking out the lies and foolishness,
Do away with the buildings, buses and drivers Commie teachers and completely wrong teachings,
I have pulled all of my grand and great grand out and opened they’re eyes. And they are doing so much better knowing the truth.
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SistaTriscuit
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:08amSendTheMeteors – exactly WHAT does concern over INDOCTRINATION of our children have to do with exposure to science? Who here is throwing a fit over exposure to science? The real issue here is that CSCOPE has a very obvious agenda in place to indoctrinate children into a collectivist mindset that strips them of national pride and absolutely is NOT teaching them anything truthful about history, American or otherwise.
Again, who is railing about science and what does any of this have to do with religious beliefs? You’re the only one I’ve seen even mentions science and religion. I want my child taught FACTS, not theories based on junk science being taught as cold, hard, scientific fact. Math and science are critically important, but when the hell was the last time our kids as a whole were receiving a decent education in either of those subjects, not to mention the amount of kids graduating from high school who care barely read, write, and seem to only be fluent in texting-ese? Is THAT education?
Our education system is in a shambles and our kids are not receiving the kind of education they should be. Indoctrination, yes. Education, no. I want my child to be taught the truth about American history as well as WORLD history. Why does history repeat itself? Because man apparently hasn’t learned the lesson that when you don’t learn from history and keep those lessons alive from one generation to the next, we tend to repeat them over and over again.
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Crush_Liberalism
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 7:49amTESLANDEDISON, “The indoctrination must continue so they can have more useful consumer idiots.”
MASTERFULLY said!
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Ollie123
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:43amgood for you, I to had to take the same sacrifice, went without a car for a few years and rode my bicycle to work in order to get my children in private school
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Blackdog01
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 3:21pmYou are right. Public schools have become the breeding ground for the virus of progressive liberalism. The CSCOPE program is an especially nasty strain and can’t be allowed to spread.
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frgough
Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:27pmEvolution and Global Warming are completely non-scientific. Global warming teaching ignores the fact of manipulated data. Evolution is a just-so hypothesis that purports to explain everything, but is unwilling to examine the things it fails at predicting. Big Bang wears the cloak of science better than the other items you mentioned, but it is nothing more than a giant exercise in extrapolation.
Here’s the reality: True science is actually quite limited in what it can explain. If you can’t reproduce it in the laboratory via experimentation, you can’t explain it scientifically. All those things you mentioned as science are actually Aristotlean philosophy: Make an observation, reach a conclusion, argue your position, the argument that persuades the majority is declared the truth.
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Southernsoul
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:55pmWhat? Beck offered a solution to a problem that didn’t involve praying? Wow, I guess beating my head against the wall did help. As much as I love Glenn for what he has done in waking people up, he still reminds me of a guy whose house will catch fire and he’ll come to your house to ask you what to do. He’s great at pointing out problems, but refuses to take the lead in the solutions.
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WhatTheFrack
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 7:00pmDude, that’s pretty unfair. As much as I am dismayed that Beck has gone conservative rather than maintain his libertarianism it’s more than enough that the guy exposes as much truth and lies and evil as he does. Do you really want someone else offering you solutions? We have that now. It’s called Big Government aka. the nanny state. It’s your responsibility to come up with a solution that works for you. Talk to your friends. There is a plethora of ideas out there. Pick one or come up with your own but do something.
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TNPATRIOT4EVER
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 9:17pmI believe he refuses to take the lead in the solutions because he wants us to THINK for ourselves instead of mindlessly following him.
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bekhiet
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:00pmWe all have a role to play Southernsoul. We each play our part, we can keep moving forward. If Beck pulls the fire alarm, perhaps we the people need to put out the fire.
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SOUNDTHETRUMPET
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:45pmDepartment of education at the federal level is unconstitutional. Get rid of it. All they want to do is make good little communist out of your kids. In 1963 the communist party USA said take control of the schools. Call your Representative in congress. Tell them to close down the Dept of ED
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kindling
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 8:13pmI see the department of education as being exactly what the founders were trying to stop with religion. When a government creates a religion and forces everyone to worship there that is wrong. When a government creates a school system and forces everyone to send their kids there it is the same thing. We need a separation of education and state.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 9:36pm@kindling
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 8:13pm
I see the department of education as being exactly what the founders were trying to stop with religion. When a government creates a religion and forces everyone to worship there that is wrong. When a government creates a school system and forces everyone to send their kids there it is the same thing. We need a separation of education and state.
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Can you show me where the Government has forced any citizen to practice a particular religion?
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SistaTriscuit
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:00amJustMeHere – I think you need to reread the comment because I believe you’ve missed the entire point. Kindling didn’t say the gov’t has forced anyone to follow a particular religion. The point kindling was making was simply that creating any type of a system, be it religious or education, and FORCING people to adhere to that and that alone as their only choice is indoctrination. This agenda that our gov’t has put into place in our education system is indoctrination, pure and simple. It’s no different than the gov’t deciding that they’ll begin telling people what church they must attend, or deciding that none of us CAN attend church. The point being made is control and subsequent indoctrination.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:14am@SistaTriscuit
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:00am
JustMeHere – I think you need to reread the comment because I believe you’ve missed the entire point. Kindling didn’t say the gov’t has forced anyone to follow a particular religion. The point kindling was making was simply that creating any type of a system, be it religious or education, and FORCING people to adhere to that and that alone as their only choice is indoctrination. This agenda that our gov’t has put into place in our education system is indoctrination, pure and simple. It’s no different than the gov’t deciding that they’ll begin telling people what church they must attend, or deciding that none of us CAN attend church. The point being made is control and subsequent indoctrination
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I think I read his comment correctly. He stated that he felt that our Government was forcing religion on people and I asked for a specific example where that have happened. What is your point?
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BoyScout_Mom
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 6:02pmHow about the complete worship, indoctrination, and forced “correct” devotion and total acceptance of: Communism, Socialism, Marxism, Feminism, Progressivism, Environmentalism, Homosexualism, Collectivism, Diversification-ism… just to name a few. Libs/Dems have completely sold themselves into blind, mindless acceptance and total devotion of worship of these values as absolute Truth, and discourage anyone to think critically about the scope of each of these issues.
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:45pmhttp://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Orly Taitz issued subpoenas to members of the House Judiciary Committee as a Demand for Verification of Obama’s IDs.
This woman has real chutzpah.
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Kimber_45
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:10pmOver the years the Department of (de)Education keeps changing and changing their curriculum until we see what they have. Maybe all their ‘bright ideas’ weren’t so bright?
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kapnkd
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 4:12pmNOTHING ever “bright” about ANY part of government!!!
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hawaiianninja
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:50pm“Sounds like a recipe for generations of stupid and ignorant people.”
The preceding ignorant comment was brought to you by “justsayin456,” who was obviously indoctrinated by the finest public school within the US, posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:36am. This is clearly an indication of how bad the public school system has become at the hands of our Government in the past 30 years.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:48pmPrivatizing education is about the worst thing the United States can do.
Mr. Beck has always complained about public schools. If it wasn’t this issue Mr. Beck would be highlighting something else.
Look at the disaster the for profit adult education industry has caused. The “education” they provide is less than worthless.
Privatizing education and dumbing down of the America’s children is a mortal sin.
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Excomunicatedmarine
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 2:32pmComing from a state that has the lowest education standard in the Us. Where the teachers union signs the contract and then gets away with ignoring it. Where they refuse to sign another one and then a year later come back and beg to sign it.
Until the teachers start drug testing as per signed contract, it will continue to be a mess. Of course the politicians all send their kids to private schools. The only place in Hawaii you can hope for your children to learn to read at public expense is in the Chartered schools
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Excomunicatedmarine
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 2:35pmBS. Until it is privatized, may as well have the postal service manage it.
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jman-6
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 2:58pmMary- dumbing down students and citizens is exactly what people of your ilk are doing now, and in the business world your ilk call it…Affirmative action! If education was allowed to be run by a truly free and private market our children would once again be the envy of the world! Amazing thing you ‘progressives’ seem to love progress except when it comes to education and the USPS!
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Endyr
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:03pmThe Socialist Indoctrination System….err….. Public Education System needs to be completely drestroyed.
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drs1969
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:37pmThe real sin is how my teachers railed against free enterprise and Reagan while praising the tyrants Lincoln and FDR. No school’s better than brainwashing.
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ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:58pmBeck is going to come out with a home school study program which he will then sell. Since the price of gold is falling he has to replace that income stream.
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kapnkd
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 4:14pmLOL – The NYC school system results of their public education proves your point perfectly right???
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thejackal
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 5:05pmWell there are some private schools that are unholy disasters. There’s a particular school run by a uber liberal performance group of a particular hue that ran a school for pre-K thru 3rd or something. Any way the end of the first cycle of kids they went to real schools and the couldn’t read and write and were like feral animals. Kind of like the public school systems in NYC where the kids have sex with each other in while the teachers babbles on… NYC public high school graduate’s literacy rate is less than 20%. That’s 80% that hold diplomas and can’t read a stitch, you think they can do calculus? Bwahahaha! There are however many fine private schools. In fact the most elite schools in the are all private. There isn’t a public school in the top two dozen. Your WHACKED Mary.
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1776boy
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 6:02pmSooo dumbing them down in public ED. is ok then you must be a teacher who can’t make it in private school so you go with public WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OFF loosing your job? lets give the kids the honest schooling they need!
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WhatTheFrack
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 7:05pmMary is such a good commie. How dare the individual have a choice……
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brother_ed
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:53pm@MARYBETHELIZABETH
Look into the Ross School in East Hampton, NY.
A highly liberal private school escaping the trappings of public schools.
Private schools, through their own innovation, are what should be driving the education process, not a one-size-fits-all national program.
The problem seems to be that most people want equality, or fairness. This causes them to want to standardize things. This choke progress. A ‘collectivist’ mentality is a detriment to progress. The ‘Progressives’ have become blinded by their hatred towards anything the right suggests, and by doing so are ‘regressing.
Escaping public education – or redesigning the way we learn – is not only a right wing issue…it is the hope of every intelligent person.
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addie
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:45amSounds like the government has done a fine job dumbing down our students. Lets see, 80% of NYC graduates cant read! 60% of 12th graders can only read at 8th grade level in most states. Of all the advanced countries in the world, the US has the lowest scores in math, science, and english yet the highest paid teachers. Teachers like to blame parents but there are bad parents all over the world and yet the teachers there do a better job at teaching students. Colleges across this country have turned into prostitution institutes, lower requirements so anyone with a student loan can get it, once in, the teachers sell grades. (dont think they dont) There was a time where getting a college degree was a real achievement. In today’s society, it’s just another notch on the bedpost.
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Chancellor
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:57amThat is exactly what they are doing {The Gov} dumbing down the system. Then changing history and Lying about global warming.
Now you have reject teachers teaching kids about Gay rights and what they want as a right. Higher education is not a RIGHT Just like driving you have to pay your own way. So make sure what you are paying for is the truth!
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FANGS
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:32pmParents, You are going to have to draw this line in the sand. The Building where this CSCOPE is coming out of, TRASH IT and Destroy their servers. Come armed, Come Prepared. But shut down this Communist Brainwashing. Beware anyone who is coming out of public school systems During Obama’s Reign will never be hired. Employers Know that the High Schools are teaching Kids to hate work. We won’t be hiring anything that comes out of Public Schools.
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cassandra
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:10pmthe Dept of Education is just a Marxist training camp get your kids out of the public school system while we Patriots get rid of the maxist school system and return it to the education of our next generation, teaching them Math,Real American History,English ( how about teaching inercity children how to articulate English for one )how can our public schools teach illegal students and be proud of the fact that they are here breaking the law ? that one really gets to me
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jcldwl
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:40pm“The public education and traditional university system is “killing our ingenuity,” Beck said.”
I appreciate Glenn letting us know about this but it is again another case of him telling others what to do while he supports universities of indoctrination by paying for his children to attend them. Does this not bother anyone else? Or should we give him a pass on it and continue to pay for his network which then helps to support the universities he pays for his children to attend? Think about it.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 9:55pm@jcldwl
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:40pm
“The public education and traditional university system is “killing our ingenuity,” Beck said.”
I appreciate Glenn letting us know about this but it is again another case of him telling others what to do while he supports universities of indoctrination by paying for his children to attend them. Does this not bother anyone else? Or should we give him a pass on it and continue to pay for his network which then helps to support the universities he pays for his children to attend? Think about it.
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Thinking here as you requested. Nope, doesn’t bother me. I assume that he taught them individual thought before sending them there. I give him a pass.
Are you only interested in singling out Glen Beck? Does your philosophy extend to all the other people that send their children to Universities or do you just have a problem with Glen.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:00pmAs a parent, I want to know EVERYTHING schools are exposing my children to, this secretive nonsense is BS!!!
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Dudley Do-Right
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:44pm“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
Barack Obama
“education is the motor-force of revolution”
Bill Ayers
And so it is that this dynamite, I mean dynamic duo joined forces to begin transforming this country through education. How it all began with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
http://02ce1ab.netsolhost.com/KingHarvest/?p=346
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spirited
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:02pmInteresting….very interesting.
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:35pmI have a genuine question for those of you thinking about-or already are-homeschooling. Do you plan to include computer programming in your curriculum? Public schools are sorely lacking in these skills, but most home schooling materials I have seen also seem to lack these lessons. Are these things that you would like to offer your child and would you be willing to pay for a tutor?
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okieqt
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:49pmI’ve homeschooled my kids for the past 7 years and made the decision based on curriculum issues. My kids are incredibly computer savvy & my son writes a Tech blog! It has been one of the biggest positives of homeschooling for us. They’ve had time to learn incredible computer skills – mostly on their own! I love that they can learn & pick up skills like basic coding so quickly. There is incredible curriculum available, classes/workshops/coops available depending on your area, online courses, dual enrollment with local community colleges at the high school level and many other opportunities!
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LakeCountry
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 6:32pmI’ve homeschooled 6 years now and if you are asking if there is a market for private tutors in something like computer programming, the answer is yes. I am always looking for experts to teach my sons things I am not equipped to teach them myself. Even if there is a great curriculum out there for whatever it is I am looking for (and there usually is), I will always opt for hands-on, personal, one-on-one training from someone who knows what they are talking about if that is an option.
In my area, there is a co-op type group of people exactly like you who know a certain trade or subject and will teach it to high-school aged students. My son has taken a few classes there – most recently a class in photography. Parents buy individual classes, as many as they’d like, in whatever subjects they need. If such a group like this exists where you are, you could offer to teach a class with them. It’d certainly be an easy way to get started.
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Whatmeworry-never
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:32pmThe problem is most parents are also victims of this indoctrination and don’t see what is happening. We are slow boiled frogs. Some of us have woke up and are challenging the system. I am lucky I have found a traditional school (public) that has awesome teachers and officials who say the heck with the sytem and teach the old fashion way. Funny thing is they say the test scores for this school is too low and it must be a failing school. When I go over my childs homework I see, critical thinking, reading, writing, math, truethful historical lessons, and etc. The school prior was a progressive indoctrination camp, my kid could not read properly and was told by the school to ignore any thing the parents were telling them so home tutoring was not working, yanked kid out of that school and put her in this “failing” school and now my child is above level on all skills. Teaching to politics and tests is failing our children, our country and future. Do not fail your children, step up to the plate and make changes.
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love the kids
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:46pmIf your kid went to a Mechanic school, and then was given a test on Cooking, the result would look bad. My child was telling me that a teacher likes to use the term “Global Citizen”, since we live close to the boarder to Canada, I told him to tell the teacher that he should tell the Boarder inspectors the next time he goes to answer “Global” the next time they ask the citizenship? I’m sure that would be a good answer now.
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mgh999
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:19pmHome school and create self reliant, thinking citizens not drones!
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antitheism
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:04pmYea, take them out of the public schools and enroll them in good christian schools where your children will certainly not be indoctrinated to believe that the loch ness monster disproves evolution, that the kkk was a force for good, that most slaves were treated well by their masters, that hippies were devil worshipers, and that the trail of tears was justified because it brought natives to christ, etc etc.
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HelloWorld
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:13pmHow about teaching the truth and letting them form their own opinions regarding history!
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:17pmGo hate religion somewhere else, that’s not relevant to this thread. Your straw man arguments show your ignorance. No one ever taught the KKK was good (except democrats), or slaves got room service. Your just pulling dark instances from American history and attributing them to religion, not relevant, or true.
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Workingthedirt
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:20pmYes we’ll definitely get it cleared through you first. Your self-righteousness isn’t a value I want taught tomy kids.
They’re not your children. We teach according to our values not yours or the states.
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blackyb
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:22pmIt is parents business what THEIR children are taught. All parents who have a sense of decency want their children taught the right way. Not to worry. We know what is best for OUR children. Why give the hearts and mind of your children over to strangers who have an agenda when children can be taught the love and respect for God, their family and their country? It is a fools game to allow your children to sit under strangers with problems and ideas that are perverted and against God and your teachings. These are your children and their minds and souls should be YOUR responsibility until they are old and wise enough to make take that responsibility on their own?
Also why should we allow our children into a school where God is not welcome, but perverts are?
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:27pmThe trail of tears was paved by democrats. You need to learn your history. But what do they tell you? “oh, things have changed – it was really the other guy and we are now like the other guy was” You see this every day to this very day. obama: “it might be me, but really it’s the other guy. Excuse me while i go do more stuff to blame on everyone else” Bush, stimulus, tarp afganistan, the arab spring-winter. He was there for all of it. As senator, or President. His fingerprints are on every square inch of what he blames on people who weren’t even there yet. You are what’s known as a hapless fool, easily indoctrinated and demonized beforehand should you think outside “the group”
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antitheism
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:27pmMy examples come from a real world textbook actually used in christian school in Louisiana, the loch ness monster one was even written about in the blaze: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/27/controversy-swirls-as-christian-textbook-teaches-that-the-loch-ness-monster-may-be-real/
The rest can be found here: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/hippies-satan-worship-school-history-book-201334876.html
It’s funny how conservatives blame liberals for rewriting history, yet its conservatives who are most often guilty of this in the most hilarious and blatant ways.
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michael48
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:35pm80% of NYC HS grads…cannot read…meat for anti-whatever….
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love the kids
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:39pmFunny, my kids go to a Christian school to through 8th grade. The teachers in the public schools now have to come up with “Rating Tests” to gauge the teachers progress for their pay increases, (something the teachers hate). We had a teacher that makes up those tests tell us that she makes sure that the students will do bad at beginning of year, and will do good at end of year. The kids that moved into public 9th grade all did great, one of them went right to 10th grade math and took the beginning test this year and scored 100 on it. The woman we know asked why we were teaching that far ahead. It’s funny, and they have a religion class in there as well, I guess that is better than the 2 study halls a day the public schools get.
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booger71
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:44pmLock Ness Monster? really?
KKK was a southern democratic organization.
Did you know the first slaves brought to this country were white Irishmen(rednecks), some owned by black land owners?
I don’t like the federal government stealing land from any private individual. Andrew Jackson (democrat) gave the order to move the tribes off their land.
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RedDirtTexas
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:53pmOr, just leave them in and they can be GENIUSES like you, never questioning the socialist ideology or the ramifications that always follow when it is implemented! You are like the amoeba on a slide that can’t possibly imagine that there is a high powered magnifying lens focused on you. The amoeba next to you says, ” I don’t feel like we’re the highest order in the universe ” and you say, ” shut up fool! I’m the smartest amoeba in this drop of pond water! ” LOL It would suck to be you!
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Workingthedirt
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 2:10pmTell me anti- what is lacking in you that you would waste your time on a conservative website ? I’d think your time would be better spent helping promote your own cause instead of trying to change our minds. All your doing here is proving that what we believe is true. That liberals only care about being right. I’ve yet to see one not lay blame, or mock, or intimidate, in your effort to be right.
No one is going to take you seriously (if you are indeed trying to make a positive change)continue with your negativity. And if your purpose is to only bait people, then your problem is not something we can handle here.
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spirited
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:10pmANTI-whatever
;^>As fair-minded as Colmes.
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338lapua
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:42pmAnd a hateful little troll you are. I would think you might seek some professional help for your anger issues. Take your baggage somewhere else.
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angelcat
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:15pmNot one person I know who attended a religious school was taught anything that resembles what you mention (yes, I know you were exaggerating to make your point). What I was taught along with the others was how to read, write, and do math. We were actually taught how to spell and use correct grammar, to to organize, debate, to think, to use logic, to know and understand our country’s history including the Constitution. And we learned all this and still had time to learn about our faith and our responsibilities to our families, friends, communities, and country. We learned to respect people of all colors and faiths and to never compromise our ideal and morals for the sake of political correctness or because they might hurt someone’s feelings.
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eadamico70
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:30pmExcuse me but I went to a Christian School myself and then went to a public school, I learned much more at the Christian school then I did at the public school. The teachers and students cared about each other and we were like family compared to the public school where most of the teachers and students had no morals. I compare a lot of what I learned from my time at the Christian School to my time at the public school and the only thing I was taught there was evolution which I even told the teacher I didn’t believe in, he just laughed at me and said, “you must be a stupid christian.” I said yes, I’m a Christian and I don’t subscribe to Darwinism.
In any case, Public schools don’t hold a candle to Christian schools.
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AUsername
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:02pmNo Child Left Behind destroyed education and made it garbage to where teachers teach the test to appease the goverment and their ignorance.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:21pmmandated alinsky-ism. Central planners doing their evil work. Turning out disaffected ghetto mobs in the process. Obama wants to expand the program. Obama is the enemy of all people. If this were not true, then why does he have to lie about all of it as he does it? obama is the poster child for all that is wrong in the World. He truly is.
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blackyb
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:24pmThat is ALL it is.
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michael48
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:14pmbrought to you by “dead ted” and a “go along to get along crowd”…a balanced approach..thingy…
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:04pmBush never funded it, and the states didn’t either.
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Gronket318
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:49amI work a continually changing 12 hour swing shift but I felt so strongly about the crisis facing the public school system that I unenrolled my 4th grader about a month ago. Home schooling is the only option I see in the short term to ensure my son gets a good education. It hasn’t been easy but I owe it to my child to ensure he has a chance to thrive and the ability to take care of himself later in life. The amazing part of this comment is that when I approached the Principal, she was 100% supportive of my decision and said I was doing the right thing. It is concerning that school officials support home schooling and realize it provides the best opportunity for a child. I believe it is the only way to stop the embrace of socialist views by our younger generations during their formative years early in life..
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okieqt
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:07pmKudos! I experienced the same support from my children’s elementary school 7 years ago when I pulled them out to homeschool them. We haven’t looked back since! It’s very time consuming to review and select curriculum, and it’s also pretty expensive. Yet the benefits FAR outweigh the negatives. Nothing compares to an education tailored to your child.
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:42pmAs a now single parent, I wasn’t in an easy situation to homeschool, but when the opportunity came to us, we jumped at it, and haven’t looked back! Best decision we ever made. My kids learn more in home school on my days off than they ever did in traditional school, all day, five days a week.
For those of you who have a dual income / two parent family, it is easier. Look at what you can do to make your life work on one income, and then put the kids first. You don’t know what you can do to your lifestyle when you take the nonsense out. The kids need you more than a house with extra bedrooms or a new car, or twenty electronic/digital gadgets. Scale down and teach your kids.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:56am@tradcatholicgirl and okieqt
Both of you are good people that care about this country. I commend both of you for your principles and dedication to the founders of our nation.
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snoopy
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 4:36pmWe have home schooled for the past 5 years. Our children have always been in private-christian schools prior to us taking them out to home school. We were seeing the school slowly introducing secular curriculum and easing up on their standards for their teachers. It was the best thing we ever did! Certainly not easy, but what options do we have? It’s going to take a very long time to fix the schools system, in the mean time, what are you doing to your child? Take care of your children first, then try to fix the public school mess!
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Gigi42
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 9:24pmAmen! I homeschooled for 3 years, then was told about a “wonderful” charter school. They succeeded in making my accelerated children into average Pavlovian drones.
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HelloWorld
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:42amPlease support the start of Great Hearts Academies into San Antonio. You will not be disappointed. Return Texas education to the level it should be. Learn the true American and World History. Learn critical thinking schools. No unions. Support Great Heart Academies. Get the word out. This is not an advertisement. Just a parent who is a native Texan whose child goes to a Great Hearts School and knows that it is helping to produce Great Hearted Students with skills for the future.
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:40am.
Texas Sucks!!!!!
When we found the Five Pillars of Islam being taught to our 10th grader, I went stright to the HS on Monday morning. (That’s an hour I will never get back) Only to be confronted by a bunch of Free Lunch Slaves who have surendered to the system inorder to save their paychecks. I asked about the Christian Faith worksheet and when it would be handed out. Guess what? They don’t have one…..
Texans talk a big game but they don’t do Sh!#. If this bunch was at the Alamo they would have thrown up the white flag and rolled out the red carpet, and Texas would be part of Mexico. Oh wait I think it is…..
Texas Sucks……..Glenn is right save your child if you can……I’m afarid Texas is going Blue…..
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:50amYEP! Look up Arlington Texas drone’s plan…
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spirited
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:18pmWow and holy cow!!!
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maggiepie
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:39amIn no way should cscope hide, from parents, about what they are teaching kids. If teachers have sign a gag order with cscope about their curriculum then they don’t belong teaching in your schools.
Cscope’s web site shows some of what they teach. READ IT.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:35amAll of this comes out of Washington. You can say it’s Texas or anywhere else, but it comes out of Washington and liberal lobbying groups. The Dept of Education is their hiding ground central. The dept of ed needs too go. States are perfectly capable of operating their schools the right way. BUT Washington needs to STOP taking their money for education and sending them back alinsky curricula.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:25amThe trouble with homeschooling is that many women HAVE to also work to support the family.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:35amThere are some cases where your point is correct, however, we went many decades in this country with one breadwinner and things just seemed better overall. As a society we have been trained for pleasure and material things, requiring two breadwinners. Personal quality is not derived from square footage or other material pursuits, nor is our childrens. As we have lost this concept, society has degraded. Of course this isn’t entirely our fault, the grinding down of America started with the education system (going back to Dewey) and continues unfettered as we are more concerned with real and desperate housewives than our children’s indoctrination.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:38amThe problem with home schooling is that Washington makes the home schooler pays taxes that the people then cannot use. Screw the dept of ed and let the people home school IN Their own community as a whole. In other words, get Washington out, then the home schoolers can make a community school they can home school as a community. A public school, instead of an alinsky school.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:42amThe objective of Agenda 21 is for a one world government–directed by the UN. For America to be controlled
by the UN, American citizens must be dumbed down. CSCOPE is doing just that.
According to Agenda 21, Constructivism teaching philosophy —-”…students construct (their own) understandings of reality, and (realize) that objective reality is not knowable.”
Another description of constructivism is, “The aim of education is the knowledge not of facts but of values”
How effective would be the constructivist philosophy in medical school? Anyone want to be operated on by a doctor who is not interested in facts? You are a COMMIE!!!!!
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AUsername
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:55amOnline education is the way people should be educated and that doesn’t require them to be at home.
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Gronket318
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:05pmBADDOGGYDESCIPLE
I see you have watched Agenda, Grinding America Down. ” http://vimeo.com/52009124 “. A must see for anyone concered about the state of our Republic.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:16pmThe problem is that Washington is TAKING the money from the women in the first place, regardless of where their kids go to school. Then she pays property tax for schools she doesn’t use.
More than enough to send her kids to a school of her CHOICE. More than enough. But she is forced to send her kids to an alisnsky-ized school after the central planners have taken all her money.
It’s HOW we got here. That should not be overlooked.
Our enemy is the central planners who have done this to you already. It’s a scheme. It’s always been known to be a scheme. Now we see the scheme up close and nowhere to turn because they have taken your money for something THEY want, not what YOU want and they have left you nowhere to turn. SCHEME. Evil scheme, but you are being told it’s about the other guy (school choice proponents) who wont take even more money from you and give it to THEM.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:21pm@Ghandi- You’re correct. Why is there a Dept of Education at the Fed level? There are no students in those buildings, period. Zero direct benefit. That fact alone shows the Fed DOE is nothing more than a vehicle of indoctrination, not education, robbing dollars from children as is the DC way.
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booger71
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 12:36pmThe problem is that Washington is TAKING the money from the women in the first place, regardless of where their kids go to school. Then she pays property tax for schools she doesn’t use.
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We paid property taxes and paid out of pocket home school expenses. It was worth it. If you want a voucher system, you first have to attack it at the county level.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 2:58pmWhat a silly response.
“Many decades’ are not 2013.
The steady high paying jobs are just gone.
You are really living in the past.
As are 2 parent households.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:03pmOMG
Agenda 21 is sooooooooooo 5 minutes ago.
We’re even past, Benghazi, and sequester all the way to filibuster.
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frgough
Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:34pmNot as many need to work as you are told need to. Buy a cheaper house and a used car, and mom can now stay home.
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Chromo200
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:18amAnd Gov. Perry allows this nonsense. Maybe we were right in not letting him get too far in the presidential election.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:22amThis is shocking
Texas has schools?
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:37amPerry was interviewed by the Bilders in 2009 prior to being okayed to run, he is a “team” player, so to speak.
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StandingOnMyHead
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 1:25pmHe wanted Gardasil, why would he not be okay with this?
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BlackCrow
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:51amI have no kids in Texas schools but I do live in Texas. Yesterday I forwarded The Blaze story and a letter explaining as a Cold War vet how disappointed I was that Communism was being taught as desirable and superior to liberty and capitalism to my Representative on the Texas Board of Education. Just Google Texas Board of Education and follow the links. As much attention they gave to intelligent design it is surprising that this Communist propaganda could sneak through under the radar. It’s up to us to get it ON the radar!
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loriann12
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:05amI live in Texas, and am a cold war vet. I HAD an 8th grader in the public system, but took him out around Thanksgiving last year. For anyone who wants a good, cheap curriculum, I am using A Squared. It costs $99 (plus you provide your own math, which I use Khan Academy on line for free) and is for grades K through 12, so you buy it one time. I am not associated with this curriculum in any way, receive no compensation for suggesting it, it’s just what I use.
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txannie
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:33amSimple answer to a stupid question. Homeschool. When something is not working anymore, back up and restart from when it was working. This cscope crud has been creeping up in the schools for years and now they feel more bold because obaba is in charge to advance their agenda of indonctrinating our children to the socialist/marxist way of life. If your children are important to you you will downsize your home, buy generic clothing, what ever it takes to make sure they are taken care of and educated right. We have been critisized for insisting on doing it ‘old school’, but my kids and grandkids along with the rest of our families are doing just fine in our smaller homes, older cars and canning our food. Kids come first, not your ‘me time’ and partying. Period.
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justsayin456
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:36amSounds like a recipe for generations of stupid and ignorant people.
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Fed up in Bama
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:37amSorta enjoying my ‘old school’ way of life, too. Well said Texas Annie :)
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:54amOH hell Martha, how can you just say that? You really should do some research before shooting your mouth off and you will find that home schooled students usually kick everybody’s ass when it comes to college scores.
BTW, you look like a twit with that Iron Man mask.
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NHwinter
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:08amjustsayin456 – How wrong you are again. Homeschoolers excel way above the public school student.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 11:47amJUSTSAYIN456 <<< Stop letting the Alinsky's change the conversation. IGNORE them. DO NOT respond to them. They are all OFA plants or just plain COMMIES. Don't play their game…..
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:01pmHomeschooling implies all parents themselves have either good education
or are biologically smart.
The concept is a right wing joke.
And the poor ‘homeschooler” is still expected to cook and clean.
Until she snaps and drown her 5 kids like in Texas of all places.
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drs1969
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:31pmRe: Verce
When she snaps and kills the public school teacher, she most likely will be charged w/ a Hate Crime as well. Double Jeopardy to protect the AA hires.
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drs1969
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:33pmRe: Just
I’d love to see the stats on voters for BHO broken down by public vs home-schooled.
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:46pmScaling back and home schooling is what I did. My kids test in the 90th percentile. My older child is now confident in math and a good writer, and he is still in elementary school.
A recipe for dumbed down kids is the American public school system.
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:55pmVerce,
You don’t know what you are talking about. Most home school families are loving, close and have their priorities in order. Most home school moms are not about to “snap” because what they are doing is a purposeful and desired choice. They choose to do it instead of piling up earthly treasure.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 12:34am@Verceofreason
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 3:01pm
Homeschooling implies all parents themselves have either good education
or are biologically smart.
The concept is a right wing joke.
And the poor ‘homeschooler” is still expected to cook and clean.
Until she snaps and drown her 5 kids like in Texas of all places
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I would assume that you love Chavez and other dictators. You are in favor of people that hate America. It appears that you love the educational system that brain washes our children and teaches communism.
I am curious though in knowing what it is that you like. You often state what you do not like.
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JustMeHere_01
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 1:01am@justsayin456
Posted on March 9, 2013 at 10:36am
Sounds like a recipe for generations of stupid and ignorant people.
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You know what!! You sound like a person that loves Hugo Chavez and Castro. From your comments I would assume that you want the Government to have complete control over peoples lives.
It is apparent that you need to be taken care by big government. It is a shame that you are so insecure that you feel you need others to provide for your well being.
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snoopy
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 4:45pmYou are exactly right Annie! If something that impacts your family, is broken, you fix it. Period. You don’t sit around, wringing your hands, complaining about it. You fix it! Who knows your children and their needs better than you? Certainly not the government. Home school. Figure it out. Spend an afternoon researching and take control of your children’s future.
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