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Paul Krugman: Conservative Facts Are ‘Non-Facts’

Mar. 10, 2013 10:25pm Mytheos Holt

Liberal economist Paul Krugman, frequently known for his scathing attacks on Republicans, accused Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) of peddling “non-facts” to his face on ABC’s “This Week.” The attack followed a scathing back and forth between Johnson and Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz over the state of negotiations regarding entitlement spending between the White House and Republicans in Congress, in which Wasserman-Schultz accused Republicans of being disorganized and misinformed, and Ron Johnson accused Democrats of bargaining in bad faith, and ignoring the budget’s many problems.

It was at this point that Krugman jumped in. “Let’s start with the facts. And we’ve run aground right there. We cannot agree,” Krugman laughed.

“We’ve got to agree on the facts,” Johnson retorted.

“But your facts are false,” Krugman snapped. “The Social Security thing. Social Security is — it has a designated revenue base, it has a trust fund based on the designated revenue base. You can’t change the rules midstream.”

“Here’s the problem with the trust fund,” Johnson interjected. “The federal government owns U.S. Treasury Bonds. It’s the same thing as if you have $20, you spend it, and by the way, that money’s spent, it’s gone. You write yourself a note for $20, stick it in your pocket and say ‘I’ve got twenty bucks.’ No, you don’t, you have a note you have to sell on the open market. The trust fund is a fiction. It doesn’t — it has no value to the federal government.”

“If you think of Social Security as not being part of the federal government, then there’s no such thing as a Social Security problem, it’s just part of the general budget.”

Crosstalk ensued for a few seconds before Krugman triumphantly finished, “It’s important to realize the facts that are being brought out are, in fact, non-facts and how do we go from there?”

“They’re absolute facts!” Johnson snapped.

“As Pat Moynihan said, ‘everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts,’” Washington Post columnist George Will cut in.

Watch the extremely uncomfortable exchange below, via Mediaite:

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13th Imam
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:47pm
The only question is, How do you spend more and more money than you take in year after year after year?

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:55am
  Paul Krugman, another of the too many cultural changing, tradition destroying, I want to rule your life, 1.3% of our population, Jewish progressives.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 1:08am
  Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, another of the too many cultural changing, tradition destroying, I want to rule your life, 1.3% of our population, Jewish progressives.
  
  It’s the all to common Jewish progressive tag team operation to rule our lives, change our culture, and destroy our traditions. .
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 1:54am
  THE biggest “TELL” against Liberals – especially Communists/Socialist/Marxist Liberals is they accuse their opposition of doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO.
  
  Krugman KNOWS that the only way he can deflect the REALIZATION that OBAMA is doing great HARM to AMERICA and to keep the MARXIST movement alive is for Journalists and Liberal mouth pieces to accuse the PATRIOTS of doing the miserable things the Marxists creeps do!! The other thing they love to do is call us Racists. This is the proof any intelligent person needs to understand about “who is telling the truth”. Not everyone who opens their mouths and/or writes against that freak in the WH is a racist (that man is 1/2 white anyway, dopes) or belong to the “ADD A FACT” club like the Liberals. They make up (think Maxine Waters) facts in every statement they make. They don’t honor the truth…if they did, they could NOT be MARXISTS !!
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 2:17am
  Patti, they can’t, because they are not marxists. Just politicians with slightly differing viewpoints. There are no communist countries, just dictatorships with better PR. But if you don’t hate the other guy, you might listen to him and repubs can’t have that. Ahh, repubs, they’re all Nazi, racist white power haters of all that isn’t wealthy you know.
- antiprogressive
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 3:35am
  to the ORIGINAL question – 13th iman
  
  PRINT MORE MONEY!!
  
  It’s great.
  
  Printing tons of excess cash devalues the debts you already OWE.
  Then you can effectively pay off OLD debts at decreased value with NEW money
  that has even LESS value.
  
  Of course it hurts the economy in the LONG run as inflation takes hold but as long as you aren’t
  in office when that happens it will be someone ELSE’S fault.
  
  Do you suppose BigO will help JEB Bush get elected so he can continue to BLAME BUSH???
  
  And the real kicker is that his “constichency” gets HAPPIER as they see larger welfare checks thanks to the inflated OBAMA money – along with free cell phones – and, being too STUPID to see how the process actually works they become increasingly likely to re-elect Obama’s chosen follower.
  
  Now BigO just has to choose between Hilldog and Jeb!
  Either way, it won’t be HIS fault.
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 4:38am
  13th
  The answer to your question is; because they can spend more and more money. They will continue to print and spend until they have de-leveraged us from the massive black hole (hundreds of trillions) the bankers created in the derivatives/mortgage backed securities market. And to be fair, we are to blame as well. Personal debt is 350% of GDP. Or until we hyper inflate. Or the rest of the world decides not to take treasuries anymore. Or a host of possibilities. None end well for the people.
  
  Why haven’t there been any prosecutions? Ha ha, because they didn’t want to pull to hard on that string for fear that the masses would see how the federal government has allowed this to happen both criminally and negligently. Complete lawlessness.
  
  It’s time to realize there is no going back, no restoration, no stopping this train. What they are doing is trying to gently land us without causing panic. Hence the spending without regard to the future. They can’t control everything and it’s inevitable that eventually the pain will surface. They are preparing for that as I write. Making it hard to get ammo. Buying armored vehicles etc.
  
  Historically, governments collapse in these situations. Like a cornered animal, government will do anything to cling to power. You’ve noticed the remodeling and wondered. Now recognize it’s to be our new style government when the wheels come off. It will promise equality for all, like Marx, but will deliver Slavery for all.
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 5:32am
  I hate to continue but…
  
  As the days go by the new “structure” is becoming more and more visible. The de-leveraging is real. It will destroy what we thought was real wealth in this country. Government preparing for civil unrest is real. Media will tell you everything is fine all the way to the end just like Baghdad Bob saying the US military was not there as an M1 Abrams rolled past. Current headlines are a perfect example. Stocks hit all time high, unemployment ticks down etc.
  
  I question myself. So I look at the fundamentals and they’re just not there. Remove all the politics and fodder and all I see is a government preparing for civil unrest and our central bank creating money not backed by anything like there is no tomorrow. In fact every central bank, at least in the west, is pumping money unlimited. Historically, that never works out well.
  
  So what about this new “system”. It seems to be a re-tooling of Marxism. An attempt to have democracy and a financial system like Marx envisioned. Marx knew that isn’t possible. Economic freedom is non separable. This has always been the progressive dream to have democracy and a collective economic system. We have many examples of how that didn’t work out in the past. It always turns to totalitarianism. When asked why Russia didn’t stick with true communism, Stalin said it was impractical. That they would eventually return the reins to the workers. They never did.
  
  Happy Monday everyone!
  
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- BehindBlueEyes
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 5:48am
  Not only are they taking more of our money in taxes they are printing money to the tune of 85 billion a month. That’s a double whammy to the masses. Inflation and smaller pay checks. Communism is on its way. If you don’t like what’s going on now you ain’t seen nothing yet.
  @MOREOILPLEASE
  Your right on everything, even the ammo. I tried to buy the other day and came home empty handed.
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 5:57am
  HOPE? Maybe some change? Beyond that, it’s thuggery.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:08am
  Politicians, The International Banksters, and their minion – This Idiot, Krugman
  
  DO NOT WANT YOU TO SEE THIS !!!!
  
  Please watch this CLASSIC 30-minute cartoon to understand what has happened to us.
  
  Please get your freinds to watch and help make this viral.
  
  If all Americans watched this, it would be GAME OVER for Klugman and friends.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:14am
  Jerk? Say something else about an Israeli. Like they are our brothers and sisters. That would be good. You are aptly named.
  
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- NoSleeper
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:18am
  How can we spend more than we take in year after year? Easy. Individuals do it all the time…and eventually file bankruptcy. Government seems to feel like they are ‘above’ this eventual outcome, mainly becuase they just print more money when needed, but they are not. The bills will come due eventually.
  
  The problem with Social Security is that it is a pyramid scheme which relies on an ever-increasing base of ‘new’ workers, and positive economic growth to ensure the new workers have jobs. Problem is the baby-boomers are retiring (stressing the system,) the influx of new workers is on the decline and the economy is poor. The longer we wait to address these issues, the worse it will be for everyone.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:19am
  @ 13th
  
  It is a waste of time pointing out the facts and relying on logic to carry the day. Mr Krugman, like so many others has be told to obfuscate, to distract, and to confuse.
  
  To lie.
  
  It was the same thing that Robert Gibbs, the previous White House press secretary, was told to do over the drone program, as he now admits:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXzu3Ea269o
  
  The Obama adminstration is utterly lacking in integrity and decency. That fact should be the starting point from which all those that oppose them begin to develop their strategies.
  
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- 4BlueStars
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 8:07am
  @EXREPUB’ “Ahh, repubs, they’re all Nazi, racist white power haters of all that isn’t wealthy you know.”
  
  AS Patti just state, “[EXREPUB] KNOWS that the only way he can deflect the REALIZATION that OBAMA is doing great HARM to AMERICA and to keep the MARXIST movement alive is for Journalists and Liberal mouth pieces to accuse the PATRIOTS of doing the miserable things the Marxists creeps do!!” Like accusing Republicans of being National SOCIALISTS!
  
  Imbecile!
  
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- SEPARATENOW
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 8:45am
  For the umpteenth time…how can anyone believe the Constitutional nation we want has any hope of surviving. It’s time to walk away before nothing is left.
  
  They waste our time, energy, capital and good sense on pointless arguments.
  
  I don’t want Paul Krugman, or anyone like him, as a fellow citizen of any country in which I or my family have a citizenship stake. These people are Marxists. Totalitarians. Utopians. (Insane). They have been slow walking the US Constitution to the gallows for decades.
  
  Now, Paul Krugman and his (Nobel accredited) comrades have their chance to put an end to Constitutionalists with a President, Senate, Supreme Court and news media hopelessly against us. We must separate from them now or what we know to be true will be criminalized instead of just socially and culturally demonized.
  
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 8:52am
  Krugman and Al Gore are both insane, totally out of touch with reality.
  
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- desertspeaks
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 9:32am
  the depth of the stupidity of liberals never ceases to amaze
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 9:53am
  @MOREOILPLEASE
  
  I know that, you know that, and most people here know that…
  
  The question is: Now what?
  
  I believe preparation is key.
  
  You may be right – there is nothing the little guy can do,
  
  There may be many of us, but we lack organization (on a large scale).
  
  I, for one, am grateful that I belong to a church that preaches preparedness – both temporally and spiritually. We are a close knit ‘family’ with a respected hierarchy. I suggest people clump together with like-minded others.
  
  I also suggest keeping calm and resisting the urge to ‘rise up’; blessed are the peacemakers.
  
  Other than that…love your family…love your fellow man…and love God.
  
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- jimbo_from_suwanee
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:00am
  When hard facts of national flaws and mistakes become a matter of opinion by the ruling class of a culture, then revolution will be a part of that culture’s future.
  
  Omega Patriots Arise!
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:37am
  The JERK and paul Krugman are two sides of the same coin……one side has non-facts and the other has non-sense. Kinda makes one wonder doesn’t it?
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:44am
  exrepubsheitehead
  the racist nazi bastards have alway been the ku klux klan demoncrats like yourself. you prooved pattys point with your tripe.but patty forgot one other point from benjimean franklin, wich you fit perfectly,insults are the last refuge a scoundrel.
  
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- drattastic
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:04pm
  @mlgunner
  
  No one can question the intelligence or talent of Jewish people but to pretend that they have minimal influence on national or world affairs is ludicrous.
  
  In the US Senate 13 members are Jewish 11(D),2(I) in the House 27 members are Jewish 26(D) 1 (R).
  
  In the news media Jews dominate ownership and all levels of management to the “Journalist”.
  
  In Hollywood same story Jews dominate ownership ,producers ,directors ,actors .
  
  In business and banking there is no shortage of Jewish fat cats.
  
  This info is easy to confirm it is all out there on the web.
  
  To pretend that somehow with all this power and influence that Jews should somehow be exempt of blame from the ills of the country and the world (Not saying they are completely to blame,naturally but they share a significant part ) then chalking any criticism of Jews in these powerful positions up to antisemitism is dishonest or delusional .
  
  I’m not antisemitic, Jews have done a great deal of good in the world as well but we can’t ignore harm and evil no matter the source ,color ,religion ,gender ,political party . To ignore it because you belong to a group ,allows evil to take root and we get ,,,,,well we get what we now have.
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 2:02pm
  Paul Krugman=leftist, “chosen person” Juden propagandist in the Marxist Media.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 2:30pm
  Very easy.
  You buy a house with a 30 year mortgage,
  A car with years of monthly payments.
  College loans for the kids.
  Most of your electronics bought on credit.
  
  Hope that answers your question.
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_Arteeest_Beck
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 5:37pm
  “Paul Krugman: Conservative Facts Are ‘Non-Facts’”
  
  “FAIR AND BALANCED” just means you must put up with the Liberal propaganda while getting the actually facts while being shouted down. How about just … “TRUE”? These Progressives(communists) have only one goal … and that is to economically collapse the United States Of America and raise up in it’s place the “structure” that they are PRESENTLY putting in place — a Communist China-style dictatorship:
  
  “DICTATORSHIP For America IMPLEMENTED!! :: Glenn Beck Named THE TRAITORS & Exposed THEIR CONSPIRACY!!”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAu_-UmERuo
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:56pm
  Ask 80% of the country,
  Gotta credit card,? A car? A house?
  
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- nectoxicdragon
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 10:52pm
  that is so easy to answer a caveman can do it… You become a Democrat!
  
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- scarydave
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 12:32am
  Earlier today Glenn said that Krugman has always been wrong, and Glenn was on-target. A few years ago I had a beef with Krugman over something he had said about the USA being in Iraq. A small battle ensued where I went back on his NYT’s articles for 3 years and ripped them apart. He usually writes one article a week for syndication with the NYT’s being his biggest fan. Out of all of the articles he wrote for those prior 3 years (a little over 700 articles) I found 3 that he got right. The take-away for this is… if you start to read an article, then suddenly you see the author is Paul Krugman, stop and go on to something more productive.
  
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TheBurningTruth
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:42pm
Marxist Krugman’s Nobel Prize in Economics is about as real as President Marxist’s Nobel Peace Prize.

Enough said.

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- Jake Dog2
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:59am
  You said it all!!
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 1:03am
  The Nobel Prize is a political tool.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 1:52am
  THE biggest “TELL” against Liberals – especially Communists/Socialist/Marxist Liberals is they accuse their opposition of doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO.
  Krugman KNOWS that the only way he can deflect the REALIZATION that OBAMA is doing great HARM to AMERICA and to keep the MARXIST movement alive is for Journalists and Liberal mouth pieces to accuse the PATRIOTS of doing the miserable things the Marxists creeps do!! The other thing they love to do is call us Racists. This is the proof any intelligent person needs to understand about “who is telling the truth”. Not everyone who opens their mouths and/or writes against that freak in the WH is a racist (that man is 1/2 white anyway, dopes) or belong to the “ADD A FACT” club like the Liberals. They make up (think Maxine Waters) facts in every statement they make. They don’t honor the truth…if they did, they could NOT be MARXISTS !!
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:17am
  Jerk…You’re a tool.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 2:35pm
  Why don’t you all take off your camo pajamas and get jobs like Paul has.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:57pm
  SO cute.
  But he still has one – and Ryan never will.
  
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eramthgin
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:41pm
Krugmann is an idiot.

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- Al J Zira
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:48pm
  No. He’s a tool being used to espouse the administrations lies.
  
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- RIDEMODELS
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 3:12am
  Krugman is Godless……He will meet his fate and satan has his number.
  
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- wwotp
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:10am
  Liberalism is a mental disorder (Thanks Mike Savage) stemming from infantile/childhood insecurities that cause them to view the government as the nation’s nanny. It’s like a bunch of 12 year olds that keep adding rules and changing the board game to gain advantage over the other players of the game. They never mentally developed from that stage of life. They don’t view other people as real, they view them as pawns in the game. They could care less about reality or about the effects of their “new rules.” And those in high positions can even arrange for those rules to not apply to them.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Compared to who? Bachmann? Palin? Gohmmert?
  
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- nectoxicdragon
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:05pm
  He most definitely IS NOT! He simply is NOT that smart! He needs more education to reach the lofty height of “idiot”!
  
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snufy
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:30pm
The heart of the wise leans right. The heart of the fool leans left.—King Solomom

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Rock_Moninoff
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:27pm
And, “Hotconchick” they give Jews a bad name.
Debbie “man am I ugly” Was-a-man-Shithead.

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- nectoxicdragon
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:06pm
  she (wasser broad) looks like a burned out porn actress from the 80s
  
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buffsabres11
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:26pm
How is it that everybody in the world but this Krugmann guy knows that Washington ( both sides of the isle) have been raiding social security for years? How can he say that it is not a fact that this has been happening?

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 7:01pm
  He never said that.
  
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MortenInIllinois
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:23pm
I saw this show and you know, Krugram is pretty much dilusional. Debbie Blabbermouth, no doubt, as well.

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- CatB
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:13am
  I have never heard an actual FACT come out of Debbie Washerwomans mouth .. just facts she makes up aka LIES! Wow these two are a pair … Republicans could never get away with this type of made up facts … aka again LIES!
  
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- geeman
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 7:23am
  Cat, remember george on sienfield, it’s not a lie if you believe it. These two igdits would go nuts if G.W. spent this kind money.they are brainwashed obamatrons.
  
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- woodyl1011fl
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:58am
  Now you see why our nations future is so tenuous. People who vote democrat are just as delusional and out of touch will reality as are their demonic democrat leaders. Liberalism/progressive-ism is a demonic religious worldview belief system. I think Screwtape is responsible for their utterances and writings as they are willingly ignorant and in their heart of hearts really want to slaves to their deceiving captors it is much easier to be told what to do than to actually think rationally with the brain God gave them. But then they hate God Almighty, booed him at their convention and the party doesn’t think He exists no wonder they think government is god.
  
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TJexcite
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:17pm
So what are the facts. Is that there is a big file cabinet in the basement of the IRS with 5 trillion dollars in it. Or did they raid that file cabinet a very long time ago and put IOUs in there. When someone gets their SS payment they have to print money to cash that IOU and then pay out. Krugman was all for and minting the 2 trillion dollar coin and then do it 8 times and the debt is paid. Just print more money. As long as there is ink and paper, there is no debt.

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- moreoilplease
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:35am
  The facts are that there is a trust fund, sorta. It has been raided long ago. Vietnam era to be precise. It does in fact have a revenue, the FICA tax that comes out of your check. But FICA does not cover the bill and the rest is debt, also known as the general fund. No one in Washington will speak the truth about SS/Medicare. They will talk generalities or in some cases, plan nonsense.
  
  Krugman is an academic economist that deals mainly in theory. Krugman pretending there is no problem with SS/Medicare is disingenuous at best. But as usual, you couldn’t really get the facts from this “show”.
  
  At some point this little money creation train ride will be over and it will be painfully obvious to everyone the ride they have taken us on. They may as well print till the cows come home. Probably past the point of no return. And what will be the prize when the train finally comes to a rest in a giant heap of metal and broken dreams….A NEW STYLE GOVERNMENT! YAY!
  
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Triple7
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:15pm
VERCEOFREASON <- bed wetting useful idiot troll for Neo Bolsheviks.
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:43pm
Republican not only spout nonsense
They spout refuted nonsense,
Or,
Like your post, total fiction.

Referring to something as fiction but providing no proof. Whereas it has been shown over and over Krugman has been wrong and is indeed a Neo Bolshevik.
The nonsense comes your talking points propaganda ans spin. Do provide, after you go back to your trolling for idiots site, the "refuted nonsense" pertaining to this threads topic.
It is understood that by referring to facts as non facts is a Communist propaganda tactic.
It is either fact or fiction but Krugman is also a bed wetting Neo Bolshevik that for some reason made it to the spotlight and all you useful idiots revere him. I get it. "A little cowardly bed wetter can make it big time, so can I! Hooray Paul Krugman!"
Carry on drone.

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- DIR
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:50am
  Krugman is full of bullshovit!! He sould come with a warning label: “don’t expose to open flame.” He’s so full of methane he’ll explode when exposed. It’s like throwing a lit match into a real nasty outhouse …. Boom …. crap everywhere !
  
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:07pm
Gotta love Ryan’s ” ” “budgets” ” “.
ALL based on fantasy revenues,
ALL. Time after time.
That’s why Wallace called him out with – “That’s not going to happen.”

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- Triple7
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:20pm
  Fool. That calling out was concerning the repeal of Dear Leaders Marxist Obamacare Plan.
  But you are a subscriber to Bed Wetters Monthly and touch yourself in odd ways looking at the Paul Krugman pullout you have plastered to your wall.
  
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- Lord_Frostwind
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:48pm
  I wonder, what’s the bigger fantasy: A system running a deficet of over a trillion dollars annually, already closing on 17 trillion lost and we are to accept that everything is okay, that the rich will be able to sustain this system with their tax revenue. Or a system where government has to cut back it’s operations (reality it will have to be much further than even Mr. Ryan is willing to go).
  
  Which seems like the bigger fantasy to you Verce?
  
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- American1969
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:37am
  At least Ryan came up with a budget, which is more than I can say for the Progressives in the Senate—which they are required to do by law.
  
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- PoliticallyRightUs.Com
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 6:08am
  And what is OBCare based on??? If you Dem lovers are the saviors then how come every state in the union run by Democrats is Economically in shambles??? If You Libs are so great why does your leaders focus on a new socialist healthcare while the country is economically exploding? Their misguided lies are just a deception of the true agenda “not to help America become a stronger nation but to re distribute Americans money and opportunity to the rest of the world including the Muslim Brotherhood” Case in point “John Kerry goes to Egypt and gives them 250 million while they sequester American workers and shut down the White House tours not to mention parts of our military. You MR. Liberal is the problem not the solution so not not sit there and trash my country instead just get the F Out… go to Russia, Cuba, N Korea or any where else you think we should model our country after!!! You are not welcome here.
  
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- bannedfromCNN
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 11:22am
  VOICEOFINSANITY:
  
  You know not of what you bloviate.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 3:21pm
  Sorry my post was CLEARLY over your head.
  Repealing Obamacare would increase revenue
  by NOT HAVING TO SPEND MONEY FOR IT.
  I keep forgetting I’m dealing with Foxbots and their 2 digit I.Q.s
  
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:07pm
They also talked about drones.. NY Times columnist Paul Krugman has difficulty understanding how one can support water boarding but still be against drones.

Let me help you, Mr. Krugman. First, who was talking about water boarding? Straw man thrown in to invoke the horror of GW Bush. Second, who said the filibuster team was promoting water boarding? Third, the filibuster team was not saying they were “against drones” in general; they were asking for answers as to how the administration would use them pertaining to US citizens. As citizens, we all have the right to know under what parameters are government is operating and if they are acting in accordance with the Constitution.

Finally, an interrogation technique against a prisoner rightfully in custody vs. vaporizing an American citizen without due process. Hmm, which one do you think is worse?

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- Triple7
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:22pm
  Krugman is a spin and deflect expert.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:24pm
  nice coment
  
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- AMERICA4EVER
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:50am
  This administration is already doing things that are not in accordance with the constitution.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:00pm
  duh!
  
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Comrade_Bob
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:03pm
Umm, I don’t think we are allowed to question Paul or Debbie or their motivations in this forum without risking banishment. So I won’t.

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NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:01pm
And could somebody please explain George Will’s comment? It can be taken two ways.

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denkat56
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:00pm
Same old song and dance. Blame the gop, its easier to put the blame on them than to realize that they have no budget, no plans for social security, Medicare. Just following the boy king Obama’s lead. Let’s not forget the others in this group. Reid, Pelosi, and our resident boot locker Biden. They’ll send these people to try to force their views by yelling and screaming at them. How is this amount of education so wasted. Let Adam corolla talk to them, and see who caves in first. The liars, or the one telling the truth.

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Augydoggy
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:59pm
Excuse my error . I always do better proof reading after I post.. I meant 47 years

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Boggle
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:55pm
Double speak coming form Paul Krugman? I’m so surprised. And in this case, “surprised” means not surprised.

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paperpushermj
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:55pm
Krugman wouldn’t know the Truth if it hit him in the mouth. All the surplus money that did not go out covering SS obligations was taken and replaced with IOUs in the form of US Bonds. The reality is one dollar from say 1990 bought one 1lb loaf of bread, with the governments printing money around the clock for the last 4 years it now can buy 1/2 of that loaf. With the cost of Medical care exploding that dollar that went into US Bonds will buy 1/4 of that loaf. Washington took a dollar that was worth something and in time replace it with a worthless dollar.

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Chromo200
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:53pm
Do people still watch this show .. What a waste of time … And Krugman .. what a dork .. To add any numbers beyond 10 he has to take his shoes and socks off and stop at 20.

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- Vision Harry
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:10pm
  Are you implying that Krugman cannot count to 21?
  What a room full of mental midgets. I guarantee they each kiss a picture of themselves before they leave home.
  
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- texastommy
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 8:03am
  Actually, he can get to 20 1/2 if he’s naked.
  
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- Ben__Franklin
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 10:06am
  Wrong, if Krugman took his close off he would only get 19. He has to subtract his ******.
  
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Augydoggy
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:53pm
I just wish I had been able to invest my 20.00$ myself. I would have at the very least been able to keep up with (at the very least) inflation over my 447 years of dumping both my money and my employers share into a lock box that netted me 0 in interest .Plus what we gave away to people who pay nothing or little into it over my life time.But I learned along time ago. Only a politician can borrow 20.00 $ pay me back 10.00$ and say we both lost.

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- Vision Harry
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:16pm
  Under this administration it only seems like 447 years.
  
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ArizonaHoss
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:47pm
Not surprisingly, Krugman is actually wrong here. There is no “Social Security trust fund.” Social Security is part of the general budget, and that is why it’s dangerous. If it had its own separate funds, then it couldn’t bring down the government if and when it collapses. Regardless of what tag you put on it, the funds that keep Social Security alive are part of the general budget of the United States.

By the way, this was never supposed to be the case. It was supposed to be separate from general budgeting.

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- Augydoggy
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:56pm
  Yep If I am correct they started stealing it to pay for the war in V.N.in the 60′s. thats when the “lock box was invented”
  
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- taxpro4u03
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 1:36am
  Two progressive pieces of legislation that came DIRECTLY out of FDR’s ‘Public Policy.’ and sold to our grandparents as ‘good…’ The first was the Social (in) Security Act — which reads in part “…. and for OTHER purposes…” The second was the implication of the ‘required’ “marriage LICENSE” — BOTH used to gain control and jurisdiction OVER the People (got to volunteer, ya see) — Now the 4th generation accepts it as ‘fact.’ It just ain’t so — :-)
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:38pm
Krugman couldn’t find a fact if it was a tick in the middle of his forehead with a strobelight for a behind. This is the same man who has been wrong about every economical prediction he has made since 2008. If he only made sports predictions, I could be a millionaire, just bet on whatever team he says is going to lose.

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:43pm
  Republican not only spout nonsense
  They spout refuted nonsense,
  Or,
  Like your post, total fiction.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:44pm
  bad news obama won
  (insert weeping here)
  
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- NOTAMUSHROOM
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:58pm
  Oh look Darmok! Isn’t that cute! Krugman, the partisan hack with no credibility’s mother and sister are commenting here on the Blaze!
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:00pm
  Speaking of a tick, its Verceofreason, you done sucking on your last host already?
  
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- DAS_MOOCH
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:01pm
  wasserman-shulz, there’s another one like mooch obam that they had to tie a pork chop around her neck to get the family dog to play with her..& her lying liberal mouth makes her that much fuglier x 10 fold.
  
  VERCE your boyfriend is calling, time for your beef injection.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 12:21pm
  VERCEOFREASON….Great Chomba of the Vadanalis is coming to this planet, soon, and the liberals know this ‘fact’. They know his unlimited power and knowledge will be the solution to our problems. Their current, apparent insanity is nothing more than obedience to a directive from the Chom, himself.
  The population of the world must be prepared for the arrival, so that no distractions should arise.
  The technology that will be presented to this world,, will lift all of mankind out of the pits of blind racism, once and for all time.
  A Glorious age of enlightenment will wash over all the earth. Happiness and peace shall reign on the earth forever and ever.
  
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Whatmeworry-never
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:37pm
Typical commie trash talk, discredit the enemy, name call them, make fun of them so that the people fall for the trap.

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justangry
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:37pm
Mr. Holt

“Liberal economist Paul Krugman,…. ”

Can we just call him a Bolshevik economist please? Thanks!

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- DLV
  Posted on March 11, 2013 at 3:22am
  I almost want to vote democrat so we can hurry this collapse thing up…. So we can all say look the progressives F’ed up can we be sane now?
  
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gyro
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:32pm
The homewood hotel comertial was fun to watch lots of atractive girls jumping in pools
On this topic
??????????
Hm
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz need a full body replacement
Thats all I got from this sorry

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Hotconchick
Posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:29pm
Fact: They are all Communists..Wasserman Shitz and Krugman. BS Liars.

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- GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
  Posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:38pm
  Fact: Krugman believes that “spending” is the Holy Grail to solve all economic problems….
  
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