After turning away from Islam and becoming an atheist, young blogger Kassim al-Ghasali became a target in his native Morocco. Following a string of death threats, he sought political asylum in Switzerland, where he now lives and continues to embrace ideals of freedom and tolerance.
Ever-outspoken in his beliefs, al-Ghasali presented a speech at the Geneva Summit for Human Rights and Democracy in February. Speaking to the German-language news outlet Die Welt following the event, the young Moroccan shared his views (a translation of the full interview can be found in the Gates of Vienna blog), on the Arab Spring, why he believes Islam cannot be reformed in the same way that Christianity was, and why moderate Muslims should admit that “terror and violence” — or more pointedly, “unmitigated horror” — is part of the Koran.
Al-Ghasali also poignantly added that the Koran is a “politically and historically-determined book and not the word of Allah” and that Islam cannot be reformed as its tenets are anathema to Western enlightenment, which helped to reform Christianity [emphasis added].
“In my opinion, there can be no reformation or enlightenment in Sunni or Shiite Islam, because there is no church to be reformed,” al-Ghasali explained to Die Welt.
“In Islam, we are subject to the power of a sacred book and the instructions it gives. Identity and understanding of self come from the Quran. If Muslims could use their reason without the instructions of a book which is recognized as the Word of God, then we could talk about enlightenment. But today most Muslims are against the ideas of the Western Enlightenment.”
He went on to note that, historically, “there were several attempts at reform in Islam, but they were not welcomed.”
“Any moderate Muslim who would like to reform Islam should admit to himself that terror and violence are in the Quran. The unmitigated horror. But no Muslim could admit that the Quran is a politically — and historically-determined book — and not the word of Allah.”
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, author of “Battle for the Soul of Islam” and founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) disagrees with al-Ghasali’s premise, however, and told TheBlaze that the blogger “is mixing a number of different concepts” thereby “passing judgement on all Muslims.”
“He is free to believe what he wants,” Jasser qualified, before saying that it is “wrongheaded” to credit Western Enlightenment with having reformed Christianity because reformation of the faith was brought on more by individuals rather than an entire movement.
“I agree that reform cannot come from the top-down, that is not going to happen, but so many Muslims have written about separation of mosque and state,” Jasser said before explaining that the entirety of Islam should not be stereotyped based on politically-motivated clerics and the goals of Islamism, or, political Islam.
“He [al-Ghasali] does not give any solutions. So do all Muslims need to leave their faith?” Jasser asked.
The author and doctor also said that he “could not disagree more” that the Koran harbors “unmitigated horrors” and explained that, just as in passages from the Old Testament and scriptures, there are texts that contain hellfire. “Islam is not a pacifist religion, and there are historical contexts at the time in which God told Muslims it was OK to fight and defend themselves.”
“We elevate [the words] of theocrats that use verses for their own empowerment rather than take into account the context of a battle that happened in 6th century AD,” Jasser said.
But what then of the Arab Spring, which was supposed to comprise “moderate” voices within Islam and not the usual theocrats bent on domination?
For his part, al-Ghasali shared some very illuminating thoughts on what, or rather who, is truly driving the Arab Spring. He explained that supporters of the movement “want everyone to think the same, dress the same and pray at the same time.”
“Most of the supporters of the Arab Spring do not believe in human rights as the West understands them. For them, democracy is just a ladder for the climb to power. Then they fasten knives to the treads so that no other political parties can climb the ladder. What is happening in the Arab World now is comparable to what Europe went through in the 17th and 18th century. The difference is that this phase at that time brought forth enlightened philosophers and thinkers. In the Near East, on the contrary, the supporters of divine laws and the followers of Islam are coming to power.”
On this point, Jasser agrees. He told TheBlaze that due to high illiteracy rates and low education standards in countries across the Middle East and Maghreb, everyday men and women fall prey to clerics who have less-than scrupulous intentions.
With a new generation poised to embrace sharia law and the tenets of Islam as prescribed by clerics and imams bent on world domination, al-Ghasali explained what led to his departure from Morocco and his views on religion.
“It is a culture that controls everything: our personal relations, our thoughts, even our imagination and our dreams,” he said of Islam.
“A culture that does not allow us to be different, or think differently. A culture that sticks its nose into everything.”
He said that it makes “no sense” to “call for respect for human rights while, on the other hand, religious texts call for the killing of infidels, bullying women and oppressing minorities.”
On this point, another outspoken voice for human rights in Muslim countries, Nonie Darwish, agrees. The director for Arabs for Israel and author of the book “Now They Call Me Infidel,” left Islam for reasons similar to al-Ghasali.
She told TheBlaze that for her personally, Islam and being at peace with the world and those in it are “irreconcilable.”
“I personally cannot be a Muslim and be at peace with the world,” she said. “I could not make peace with Islam and the rest of the world at the same time. The problem with Islam is that it is very rigid in how it looks at others. I could not reconcile that with how to love the rest of the world.”
Darwish said that for her to have remained a Muslim, she would have had to “kid herself” or “try to create an Islam that does not exist.”
“Islamic ideology is obsessed with rejecting non-Muslims. The bulk of the scriptures are focused on condemning non-Muslims. I think it is hypocritical for people to call themselves Muslims and then say they can love the rest of the world because if they read their scriptures its always about cursing non-Muslims. It is hypocritical to reconcile Islam with peace.”
Darwish also shared her belief that being a Muslim “is a contract with the state, not a relationship with God.”
“If you leave the Islamic world — that state — or any Muslim — can kill you,” she said.
“It is not a religion.”
Jasser, however, believes that it is indeed possible to be a moderate Muslim, but agreed that it is much easier to be so in the West and that if a religion-wide reform were to take place, the West is the only place it could ever truly happen.
“This is the challenge of my work and Islamic leadership coalitions,” he told TheBlaze. “No one is under any delusions that this is not an uphill battle against institutions that have decided to use supremacist interpretations of our faith.”
He also explained that the roughly 200 local Muslim families that he and his family share time with in his home-state of Arizona cannot all be hypocrites who lack compassion and a capacity for loving their fellow man. To Jasser, that notion is not based in reality.
He does not dispute the fact that there are violent passages in the Koran and hadiths and even admitted to their abundance, but qualified that hellfire, as described by the Koran, is about what “God himself tells a Muslim who turns away from him will suffer,” and not what “one human being can bestow upon another human being.”
In other words, Jasser maintains that the Koran is God’s word to each individual worshipper and not meant to convey a Muslim man or woman’s judgement upon another person.
While many would like to believe that Islam is reformable, Darwish maintains that, at least in her opinion, it is not. She told TheBlaze that she had to leave Islam in order to be honest with herself.
“In my opinion it is not reformable, but I won’t make that decision for other Muslims.”
“Moderate Muslims are enablers, I believe of the radicals,” she said. “Because they are not standing up to radicals, they are making excuses.”
Al-Ghasali seems to share Darwish’s opinion. During his interview with Die Welt, the Moroccan blogger explained how his own family failed to support him when he turned away from Islam.
“Not even when protest demonstrations against me were organized in front of my house,” he said. “So I had to leave my home and my town and go into hiding until I had the entry permit for Switzerland.”
As a Muslim, turning away from Islam or converting to another religion renders one an apostate — a brand both Darwish and al-Ghasali wear. The crime of apostasy in Islam is indeed a grave one and under sharia law in certain Islamic countries carry penalties including jail time and even execution.
Al-Ghasali said he would return to Morocco only when it has “healed itself of the cancer of Islamism.”






















































































































Comments (98)
woodyee
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:01pmIn addition – I shouldn’t see it as a religion, but rather more of a cult – once in it, the penalties are harsh to get out, and if not in it, you’re to be reviled and/or destroyed.
Adherence by intimidation. Much like the (anti) American Left operates.
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The_Jerk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:07pmThen surely, by that same logic, you must feel the same about the followers of the Talmud.
shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:17pm@Woodyee:
I would agree with you if you were talking about “Catholics” of the “Liberal” bent as Caroline kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and others. Unfortunately, this belligerent and toxic “American” wing of the Catholic Church is toxic and poisonous. There are also Catholic Universities that are utter rubbish. Fordham and Georgetown come to mind as two of the worst but Notre Dame is right behind. A substantial portion of the American Bishops are liberal as well. I would not evaluate “Catholicism” by any American standards okay? Around the world Catholicism looks quite different. The American Catholic Church is an infant. Straight up tantrum thrower. There are Conservative Catholics in America , like me, that would not sit even two PEWS from Biden, Pelosi or any kennedy. It used to be that “THESE” types of Catholics who publicly rejected the Church teaching were censored at the communion rail by gusty priests or bishops who passed them by with the bread and wine in an act of public shaming for their unrepentant sins. However, the priests and bishops in the USA are also so shamefully sinful and ‘Liberal” this is not done anymore. And Christ’s teachings on discipline and repentance go unheeded. What can I say? The Catholic Church in the USA is in the toilet! My tiny little parish still believes. We are Conservative.
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dylan
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:25pmIslam is an ideology not a ‘religion’. Where the notion that ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ came from I surely don’t know. It’s not! Remember moderate Islam holds the feet while the radical chops off the head of anyone who is not Islamic. Lying is approved of to trick those not of Islamic ideology. Also, a very, very thin skinned ideology at that. I can’t see anyone with any sense of self submit to Islamic ideology, at least not in my book.
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Big Book Harry
Mar. 12, 2013 at 1:01pmIslam started in the cave of Hira 610 A.D. (Bukhari Vol 9, Book 87, number 111) by an angel of satan where Muhammad was physically assaulted three times, experienced fear and terror which ultimatly led to several suicide attempts. Read it if you think I am kidding. quranexplorer. com choose hadith explorer. this page is made by muslims for english speaking muslims.
Those who turn their back on Islam are to be executed. This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad. The only freedom of belief in Islam is the freedom to become Muslim.
Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari (84:57) – [In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’
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Big Book Harry
Mar. 12, 2013 at 1:28pm008.012
YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
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Alaskaninfidel
Mar. 12, 2013 at 5:37pmIt’s a death cult…
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ltb
Mar. 13, 2013 at 12:06amCan Islam be reformed? No. Here’s all you need to know about Islam:
1. Muslims worship a demon god who is now known as allah, but was called “Sin” (i.e., the pagan moon god) in Abraham’s day.
2. The demon god of Islam commanded his “prophet” to bring the entire world under submission to him and to slice off the heads of anyone who refuses to submit.
3. In order to convert the entire world to Islam, it is acceptable for Muslims to lie and to even falsely claim to be Christian.
4. The jihad that Islam is waging against the rest of the world began in 624 AD and has been ongoing ever since.
5. The only time Muslims take a rest from jihad is in order to regroup, so they can wage more effective battles.
6. When Muslims speak of Islam being a peaceful religion, they mean that peace on earth will be achieved only after the entire world submits to their demon god under sharia law.
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savagenatn
Mar. 13, 2013 at 1:01amwoody you’re right islam is nothing more than a barbaric, twisted cult. It’s not a religion. It is a phony sham that tells it’s moronic followers to behead non-believers. Not very religious sounding. For you mooslim apologists, get your heads out of your collective asses and wake the he!! up about this garbage. These barbarians would love to behead every da mn one of you.
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The_Jerk_
Mar. 13, 2013 at 2:49amThe_Jerk is —– The_Anti_Semite —- but we all know that.
A coward behind his little monitor
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Welcome Black Carter
Mar. 13, 2013 at 5:29pmReform islam?
Were you to dab a bit of perfume on a terd would it smell better?
Perhaps! The problem is, eventually the underlying, overpowering truth would be exposed…
Such is islam.
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HOOT_OWL
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:56amWhat a time to be alive ..! secularism and cults clashing it out.
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David-FL
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:54amWhat is the true nature of Islam? Bill Warner tells it like it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
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Robert Hawk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:52amI should be no surprise that Islam or better put Muhammad’s writings are a mixture of doctrines as the author mixed together two texts and a historical viewpoint. The doctrines used to formulate the Quran were Stoick philosophia and Hebrew (what many refer to as Jewish), the other measure was the historical rift which exists between the children of Abraham, namely Isaac and Ishmael. This rift weaves throughout the entire text of the Quran and within the practice of Islam by its Zealot apostles.
In the book of Genesis, starting about chapter 16 you can read about the two brothers Ishamel and Isaac. Ishmael was the son of Abraham and the Egyptian handmaid of Sarah named Hagar. Isaac was a pure blooded Hebrew, the son of Abraham and Sarah. The Lord God of Israel chose Isaac, who he had promised to Abraham as the called and chosen one. All of the houses of Israel would later come through Isaac. Ishmael and the sons of Abraham’s later wife Keturah (Genesis 25), were all set away with presents after Abraham died, however Isaac inherited all that Abraham had. This has long been a bone of contention between Ishmael and his brother Isaac which remains alive until this very day. Isaac’s sons, may not be fully aware of who they are today, but Ishmael is well aware. It should be no surprise that two family tribes who stand against the house of Isaac (also the house of Israel) are knit together (that being Ishmael (many of the Middle East, especially Iran) and Esau (Ru
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:20pmMohammeds writings appear to be a hodgepodge of things he learned from jews and christians and a bunch of stuff he made up in his “vision” state or by hearing what HE thinks was the Angel Gabriel. But, I heard a Christian man from AFrica put it succinctly, “Mohammed got his power from a demon” or “desert Jin” and that is why he was so powerful.” I have to say I agreed with the AFrican Man’s analysis of the whole situation. He says the Muslims are taking over AFrica and ruining it from one end to the other.
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termyt
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:43amChristian reform came from the Bible, when it was translated into the native languages. Reading the Bible enlightened people, it gave them the authority (God’s law) to refute the laws and words of kings and popes when those laws contradicted God’s Word. This will not happen with the Koran.
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The_Jerk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:09pmThe Qur’an, Bible, and Talmud, have all been used by abusers as secular weapons against mankind. Your focus on the ‘Koran’ is your bias.
shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:23pmYes. This will not happen with the Koran cause the uneducated people are too cow towed by the powerful Islamic clergy and there is that nasty thing about “fatwas” or “death threats” if you disagree.
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Big Book Harry
Mar. 12, 2013 at 1:11pm@The_Jerk…You tie man made religions with Islam. Islam was started directly by an angel of satan in the cave of Hira Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, Number 111.
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The_Jerk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 3:22pmBig Book Harry, all religions are man-made and man run. Don’t need a religion to be religious.
benaiah
Mar. 12, 2013 at 4:10pmexactly, for Islam to reform from its current violent state, they would have to rip pages out of the Korran(most of them actually) that isn’t EVER going to happen….
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termyt
Mar. 12, 2013 at 8:01pm@The Jerk
My bias is based on years of study, as if I needed to answer a claim by a wild Jew-hating conspiracy theorist who sees a Jew behind every tree, around every corner, underneath every rock, and at the top of every government controlling secret society. Because you know a reasonable claim when you see one.
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The_Jerk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 8:33pmTermyt, it’s been noted that you couldn’t argue your case on anything but labels; a losing argument. We all study. You’re not an exception. Give facts and reason. Not childish rants.
termyt
Mar. 13, 2013 at 9:52amYour attempts to belittle me are cute. Siting sources is a good practice for writing a paper or thesis, but you could even find sources to support your ridiculous Jew Conspiracy Theories. Sources sited in an internet post are almost meaningless unless you are also going to take the time to research those sources as well.
But in an attempt to satisfy you with the limited space I have in this post, (Christian) church history is full of reformers who lead revolutions (sometimes bloody) in church theory and teaching by reading the Bible and translating it into the common tongues. Martin Luthor with his 95 Thesis outlined abuses by church leadership contrary to Biblical teaching. William Tyndale was executed for translating the Bible so common folk would know for themselves whether church doctrine matched Biblical doctrine – it didn’t and courageous translators like Tyndale forced reform by translating the text. John Wesley was at the forefront of “The Great Awakening” that removed anti-Biblical traditions from common practice, again reforming Christianity back to its Biblical roots. I’m just getting warmed up using the names others might recognize, but I am running out of characters for this post.
So where’s your proof of Jewish orchestration of the Russian Revolution?
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:42amMohammed was a False Prophet by Dr. Wafa Sultan:
“When I examined the Koran, the Hadith and the Islamic books under my microscope, I came to the absolute conviction. It is impossible, impossible, for anyone to read the biography of Mohammed and believe in it and yet emerge as a psychologically mentally healthy person.”
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UNALIEN
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:40amThis guy has it nailed,, Islam is an authoritarian cult that combines the borderless State and religion requiring complete submission to its leaders.
My theory is that Marx drew inspiration from Islam, and that Marxism is codified Islamism, the political State is the religion, controlled by the elites. every aspect of the individuals life is controlled and managed by the elites to achieve the utopia.
Read “Sayyid Qutb – Social Justice in Islam” the leading member and inspirational martyr of the Muslim Brotherhood and it is very close to Marxism… this is why the Left embraces the Muslim Brotherhood, they share Totalitarianism… complete submission to the State
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97235873/Sayyid-Qutb-Social-Justice-in-Islam
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Robert Hawk
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:08pmYou are completely incorrect, Karl Marx was a student of Hegel, who taught the Stoick version of philosophia doctrine (see Colossians chapter 2).
Marx based his ideas off those of his predecessors and the base ideas of their doctrine which is based upon (Metaphysics and Dialectics). Marx and Engels believed in actually practicing their doctoral belief, and therefore started the first use of Applying Dialectics. Marx social ideas came from Plato’s republic. Where Plato reasoned that his ideas based upon philosophia doctrine, were accurate, Marx and Engels sought to place those ideals into practice by placing people in dialectical struggle (Conflict) against one another (applied dialectics). This conflict would allow a state of crisis to occur which would bring about the resulting “synthesis’ also known as “change”. The idea being these struggles would continue endlessly until society and mankind became perfect (which is impossible). The idea of Metaphysics and Dialectics as the method for seeking truth was given to Aristotle by the Oracle of Delphi, it was handed down through the ages until Hegel Refined it, and his students (which included Marx & Engels) put the doctrine into practice. Today it stands as the worlds largest doctoral belief (religion).
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:22pmYes. Islam means “submission” and the two are very much related. I concur with your analysis.
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UNALIEN
Mar. 12, 2013 at 6:02pmROBERT HAWK
I don’t disagree with what you said but it is not inconsistent with the totalitarianism of Islam,, and Marxism is, or was a modern codification of totalitarianism. If you strip away the academia they are very similar.. in purpose. Too similar to ignore.
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Vandergrift01
Mar. 13, 2013 at 8:59pmActually, Islam is truly the religion of Lucifer. If you’re familiar with the war in heaven, Lucifer’s plan was to force all men (humans) to bend to his will and commit no sin on earth so they could all return to heaven and Fathers presence (oh and he’d take the glory as well). Christ’s / God’s plan was to allow us to choose our path and return to him if we chose to follow his rules (and God keeps the Glory where it belongs). Now which of those plans sounds like Christianity and which one sounds like Islam?
It’s all there to read if you have the heart / eyes to see it.
The reason no one can find a conspiracy on earth is because it’s being run by Satan himself. He’s in the hearts of these evil men and is directing them as surely as if they were having secret Dr. Evil backroom meetings to get their instructions.
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STREBOR
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:37amIslam is NOT a religion…….it is a sick twisted ideology cult of death. It will never be improved nor reformed. Only CONTAINED and CHECKED.
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:35amraj rodriguez: commenting on Wafa Sultans You Tube video:
Quran studies need to be banned in the West as it forces people from young age to learn to hate, especially non belivers and discriminates against women. Muhammed himself was a violent man hence all the violence in muslim world. Those living in the West need to be given a clear choice: Stay in our country and abide by Western values and constitution, or if you dont like the idea and wish to follow islam or islamic sharia, kindly leave and go back to your **** holes at your earliest convenience.
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SpankDaMonkey
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:33am.
CAN ISLAM BE REFORMED?
Sure if we have a 2 billion person Muslim Holocaust……
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:33amDr. Wafa Sultan: Born in Syria.
I have different point of view. I believe the problem is with the Islamic Teachings. When the teachings say, “According to Allah and his Prophet, I will cast terror into the heart of the disbelievers, therefore, strike off their heads and every finger tip of them, How are we going to understand this Koranic verse in a good way? Can you tell me how? I don’t see any good way to teach your children in a good way. Islam preaches violence. I receive death threats on a daily basis. But deep in my heart I feel peace. They might be able to kill me but they will never be able to kill my message.’
From a lecture at the Four Seasons Hotel:
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Alex
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:46pmThis man’s analysis mirrors my own. Moderate Muslims will say, “Yeah, but those violent verses talk about the penalties to those who do not keep His commandments.” While I can respect attempts to explain away or spiritualize these violent verses in the Koran and instead to regulate their own actions by the things in the Koran that are good, the Koran unfortunately doesn’t give you that option. You can’t finesse verses that command believers to “strike off their heads and every finger tip of them” into a verse that has spiritual meaning and depth. Furthermore, if you can’t take verses that leave no room for misunderstanding seriously, then what can you?
The more devoted to the teachings you are, the better person you should become, right? Well, those who are the most devoted to the teachings of Islam want to kill me and my family. It is a fact. Look, I know great Muslims who are good people, but I find that they are better people because they don’t take their religion seriously. It is sad that anybody should be a better person by not following his religion.
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Cavallo
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:33amThe man who would nail reformation ideas to the Mosque door better have a few good body guards. It needs to happen, it likely will not happen. More and more will likely be radicalized, especially if there is a global economic melt down. The Left thinks they can control them, they’ll be surprised to discover they are very wrong.
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NILAP
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:32amThe problem with all religions is that that make someone a perfect person and all their words as perfect and the world of God. Once you recognize that God works through flawed men and women who often teach things that are not of God, you will see clearly how God works. The prophets are like the Founding Fathers of America, all flawed and imperfect. But because of that you do not throw out the Constitution. You amend it, change it, reject those parts that justice deems incorrect. God wishes us to be participants in our spiritual growth and not merely bow down unquestionably to his prophets. Prophets have no clothes sometimes just like emperors.
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spirited
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:27pmUh uh…. Christ was not perfect; he was human.
But ultimately, he resisted temptation –and abided; and fulfilled his destiny. No?
>If there is God, and God is all-knowing, why are we here?
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:30amCan Islam Be Reformed? …………..Yes. Nukes do a wonderful job of Reform.
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kat747
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:29amAny book that ADVOCATES MASS MURDER by a “religious” group that denies the right of others to worship as they please, should be banned from the USA.
It is a CULT and the answer to your question is “NO”.
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Gonzo
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:28amPossible or not, I don’t anticipate any kind of Islamic reform in my lifetime.
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NILAP
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:27amFor the last 30 years, I have believed without hesitation that Muhammad was a prophet of God but I never became a Muslim. Muhammad was flawed and a lot in the Koran is not the word of God. Still Muhammad is a prophet and some of the things he wrote were from God. God loves flawed prophets and that includes Jesus. We learn much from from flaws and not perfections.
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ManassasGrandma
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:46amIt is not the position of christians that Jesus was a prophet. We are pretty much alone among religions in believing that our founder was GOD.
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Gonzo
Mar. 12, 2013 at 12:12pmJesus was without flaw. He was the flawless sacrificial lamb…or none of us escape God’s judgement.
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FullMoon
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:25am“It is a culture that controls everything: our personal relations, our thoughts, even our imagination and our dreams,” …….. “A culture that does not allow us to be different, or think differently. A culture that sticks its nose into everything.”
Isn’t this where we are headed with the libs except the Islam part?
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Diane TX
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:39amYou beat me to it. I was going to make the same comparison.
Although, since the Obama Admin. is full of Muslims at high levels, I wouldn’t discount the Islam part.
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Cavallo
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:47amTo leftists, the State is their god. Replace God, Allah, etc with the State and you have atheistic leftist philosophy.
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:25amDr. Zuhdi Jasser Said:
“He [al-Ghasali] does not give any solutions. So do all Muslims need to leave their faith?” Jasser asked.The author and doctor also said that he “could not disagree more” that the Koran harbors “unmitigated horrors” and explained that, just as in passages from the Old Testament and scriptures, there are texts that contain hellfire. “Islam is not a pacifist religion, and there are historical contexts at the time in which God told Muslims it was OK to fight and defend themselves.”
@Jasser:
Like in the beginning when Mohammed attacked all the Jews and Christians in Saudi Arabia and two tribes had to flee for their lives while the third tribe of Jews stayed and defended themselves, their wives, their children, their property? Like then? And afterward when they lost the battle all the 800 or 900 men were beheaded and the women and children were subject to Mohammed and his bloodthirsty for booty men? YOu mean when “muslims” were called on by God to “defend” themselves in this instance or in any other instance where their armies moved out of Saudi Arabia across the Middle EAst, into Jerusalem subjugating, killing and raping? LIke then?
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panick
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:24amAs long as the believers strictly follow directives in the Koran and Hadith that claim it is IK to lie, kill, rob, and rape non-Muslims in pursuit of the faith, Islam will never be an acceptable of the world order. This is not fantasy, it is real. These commands supposedly from allah are found to an understandable level even in the watered down English translations meant for Westerners to read. Get a translation of the real Arabic version and be prepared for a shock. This is the Koran as taught to yound Muslims around the world. and is a hate screed against all who will not “submit” to allah.
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4XGrace
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:23amIslam is a religion and ALL religions are an anathema to God. Islam really is the religionist’s religion, far more so than any other because it is based on submission and violence. One man through Islam can control the world through violence and terror; such is the heart of man.
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UBETHECHANGE
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:43amIslam is not a religion. Islam is based upon this trilogy: Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (his Traditions).
Most of the Islamic doctrine is political, not religious. Islam is a political ideology.
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jbcheesehead
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:23amIslam will not be reformed, but will get more and more radical. In all the history of Jewish, and Christian believers, none have continued to propagate the idea that all that do not believe need to be beheaded for very long without being corrected by their fellow believers. But in Islam this is the command of the Koran. So anyone wishing to become closer to Allah as their god, will continue to grow more radical. The Koran says to destroy all infidels (anyone not believing that Allah is the true god). The Bible and the Pentateuch tells us to love our enemies or those who disagree with us.
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shorelineliz
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:20amOn this point, Jasser agrees. He told TheBlaze that due to high illiteracy rates and low education standards in countries across the Middle East and Maghreb, everyday men and women fall prey to clerics who have less-than scrupulous intentions.
@Kassim:
“clergy” have been a problem in the West as well. “interpretations’ come hither and yon have been a problem in the West. Christianity is still having problems. Different ones than Islam. However, your take on “violence” as the basis of Koranic teaching is spot on. Many in Islam would like the WEst to think that “jihad” is the internal struggle but people like Pamela Gellar who lost her brother at 911 know better. Unless Islam reforms itself then the reform will come from the outside in/not the inside out. I don’t think it is going to happen when the latter verses of the Koran (jihad) supercede the former verses (peace) in what Allen West correctly calls “abrogation.”
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UBETHECHANGE
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:18amAnybody coming to Islam’s defense is being deceitful or duped: All of Islam is based upon the Trilogy—Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (his Traditions).
Most of the Islamic doctrine is political, not religious. Islam is a political ideology.
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mikem1969
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:24amThat it is, it is a false religion and teaches nothing but violence and hatred to all not of islam.
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woodyee
Mar. 12, 2013 at 11:15amUntil Muslims defeat Islamists, the best road to travel is that which is least traveled by folks of that religious persuasion.
Wise, peaceful people like that least-traveled road, as do the cowards that are forever haranguing them…
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