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City Promises New Truck to Women Shot At During Cop-Killer Manhunt…But It Comes With a Tax Surprise

Mar. 12, 2013 6:30pm Becket Adams

L.A. Not Complications Arise After LAPD Promises Emma Hernandez, 71, & Her Daughter, Margie Carranza a New Truck

A close-up look at the bullet holes in the pickup truck driven by a woman and her 71-year-old mother delivering newspapers. (L.A. Times).

Two women who were shot at during the Los Angeles Police Department’s frantic search for alleged cop-killer Christopher Dorner last month say city officials have failed to adequately atone for their mistake, according to their attorney Glen Jonas.

“It has been more than a month since LAPD Chief Charlie Beck promised the truck to Emma Hernandez, 71, and her daughter, Margie Carranza, who had been working in Torrance, Calif. before dawn on Feb. 7,” NBC4 News reports.

In what city officials call a “case of mistaken identity,” police officers on Feb. 7 opened fire on Hernandez’ truck, riddling it with more than 100 bullets. After the terrifying incident, Beck told Hernandez the city would replace her truck with one from Galpin Ford, a local car dealership.

But this is where things start to fall apart.

“LAPD and Galpin Ford wanted [the women] to pose for a photo opportunity and pay income tax on the truck,” the NBC report reads, citing Jonas. “The women no longer want the truck after they were told they needed to fill out a 1099 form for the donation.”

For those of you who don’t know that a 1099 form is, it’s for tax form for “miscellaneous income.”

“You tried to murder the woman, now you’re telling her she can’t have a four-wheel drive, you’re telling her she can’t sell it and you’ve got to be taxed on it?” Jonas said. “How would anyone react to that?”

“Jonas plans on filing a government claim, which is a precursor to any lawsuit filed against a government agency. He said he felt the truck was being touted as a ‘reward or prize’ instead of a sincere gesture by the LAPD,” NBC 4 News notes:

According to Galpin Ford, the new 2013 Ford 150 SuperCrew is worth about $32,500. Also, according to a dealership spokesperson, Galpin Ford planned on covering the cost of sales tax, vehicle registration, and title.

“It’s really sad for us because we want to help these women move on with their lives, and help them move forward with that, we just can’t get past the 1099 issue,” LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said. “The government has to take their bite out of it, I guess.”

Emma Hernandez is currently recovering from two bullet wounds taken to the neck, which, according to Jonas, are giving her “life-threatening complications.”

“The grandmother, Emma, starts saying, ‘God have mercy on us,’ because she thinks for sure they’re going to die,” Jonas said, recounting the Feb. 7 shooting. “She then clutches around the back seat of her daughter to protect her from the gun shots because her daughter has children.”

Eight officers involved in the shooting have been placed on “non-field assignments” until “the (police) chief decides otherwise.”

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EQUALIZER
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:16pm
108 bullets, 108 shots, 108 slugs,108 trigger pulls,108 rounds, 108 targets

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- M13
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:36pm
  108 reasons to retain a lawyer.
  
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- ReallySeriouslyNoWay
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:39pm
  And they didn’t hit the occupants in the truck? Those guys need some training.
  
  Why aren’t the officers in jail for attempted murder? And where’s the inquiry into this “mistaken identity” I thought all officer involved shootings had an inquiry. When the DC sniper was on the loose the word on the streets was that it was a white box truck. The DC police shot at exactly ZERO white box trucks.
  
  The LAPD was completely willing to kill as many innocent citizens as possible to get to that guy. Why? Scared what stories he might be able to tell?
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:56pm
  They should have made it 1099 shots, at least it would have matched the form number they wanted the ladies to fill out.
  
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- Ben__Franklin
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:01pm
  HOLY Equalizer, one idiot cop was shooting into the tailgate. These police officers should be removed from duty. The women should have got a good lawyer. The amount of sporadic spray of bullets on that truck is ridiculous.
  
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- fastgen1
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:03pm
  Nothing will happen to the trigger happy thugs, these boys are trained the way the captain likes em. Nothing to see here, move on…. They love their killer robots…..
  
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- Kinnison
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:08pm
  Semi-trained, unrestrained cowboy cops: yet another reason to leave L.A. and California.
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_Arteeest_Beck
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:25pm
  “City Promises New Truck to Women Shot During Cop-Killer Manhunt…But It Comes With a Tax Surprise”
  
  So-o-o-o, how’s that whole Police-(standing army)-Department thingy working out for everyone? America’s Founders knew, greatly feared, and warned us of it.
  
  “LAPD Police-thugs Bravely Subdue Dangerous TV News Camera”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvNrtk6GJ0
  
  Past time to put an end to government thuggery and disband the police “standing army” departments (because they’re here for a reason … a very bad reason):
  “America: Freedom To Fascism”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNeVu8wUak
  
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- TheAlamoLives
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:26pm
  I’m surprised the LAPD didn’t send the wounded lady that was driving the truck a bill for EMS, the hospital, LA Fire Dept, and a bill for the bullets! Don’t laugh, it’s California. Don’t let this spread to your state!
  
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- Spiritk9
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:35pm
  What the hell is with these ‘boggle’ style headlines? Can you people at least TRY to make sense when you write a headline?
  
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- ltb
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:36pm
  M13, no, 108 reasons to use our Second Amendment rights before these idiots take away our guns.
  
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- TexVet61
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:03am
  just like the government, attempted murder because of STUPIDITY, then they want to give them a crappy UNION made ford POS to replace a TOYOTA, THE BEST MADE TRUCK IN AMERICA, hardly an even trade, and what about pain a suffering. Nope, they are doing the right thing, tell them to keep their crappy ford and instead buy another toyota with the MILLIONS they will get from the money they will get from the UNIONS that are protecting the stupid police that don’t know the difference between a woman and a man, I think its funny as hell (not a laughable way) that the police just shoot to hell a truck carrying a woman and her children just because they are in a blue truck. so again I say, Bitch Feinstein wants to outlaw VETERANS from owning guns because of the new fad she calls PTSD which of course everyone knows if your a veteran you must be unstable, but UNION cops are given a pass, of course its because they are cops, they are never unstable, I think its becuase being in a UNION makes it where non of Obama’s laws apply, come to think of it NON of the laws of sociaty seem to ever apply to UNIONS… OR COPS. so, what about these cops wicked witch feinstein? are they stable? I find it funny how if the military did this to a group of terroist in a war zone the dumbocraps would have their heads, instead these idiots are on paid leave for attempted murder
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:58am
  This is California right? The Anti-American State that willfully Infringes on the Rights of Americans. You expect anything less?
  
  Both these women where shot and their vehicle riddled by Police. There is no defense for this blatant disregard for American Citizens. So, 8 Police Officers fired 108 rounds before realizing these 2 women did not look like Dormer. This was not a case of mistaken Identity, this was a blatant Gestapo Tactic. I guess the 4 other Incidents where police open fire on Innocent Americans, during the manhunt, are just amore cases of mistaken Identity. Lets call it fair – 108 bullets that hit the truck – how many missed? I think California should pay 1 million per round that hit the Truck. 108 million seems like a fair number and the LAPD can keep the truck as a reminder.
  
  Boycott this Anti-American State that willfully Infringes on the Rights of Americans.
  
  2013 American Patriot Spring, What will you do?
  
  The distinctions between Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Independents are no more. I Am Not A Republican, But An American! – Sons of Liberty
  
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- NoSleeper
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 4:35am
  They need larger capacity magazines.
  
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- LogCabinRepublican
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 5:07am
  I think they should get $108,000,000.00 instead!
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 8:11am
  Unbelievable….only in California can you be completely innocent and be a criminal at the same time…
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:09am
  When is the criminal trial for attempted murder by these officers? There is no “mistaken” identity, they made no attempt to identify their target. They opened fire because it was a truck. Not even close to the perp’s. They are criminally liable for negligent discharge of a firearm and attempted murder.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:48am
  I wonder what would have happened if they had killed these to innocent women? Would they have just gotten off because of mistaken identity? If so….that would open up a lot of new avenue’s for law enforcement abuse..I pulled him over for a broken tail light….I shot him because I was pretty sure he had a gun on him because of his NRA sticker on his bumper…or…she reached into her purse to get the license I asked for so I shot her because I was pretty sure she had a weapon in there…I mean she had a Romney/ Ryan bumper sticker…I had no choice….right?
  
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- Leerm
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 1:09pm
  The cops did not hit that truck 108 times. Where did all the other bullets go?
  
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OlefromMN
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:16pm
Alright, who here is willing to be used for target practice for the opportunity to win a new POS 2WD pickup that you will be taxed based on full MSRP.

LAPD, SYIC.

(see you in court)

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- RLTW
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:39pm
  This is so sick, I taught marksmanship in the military and always stressed only shoot at targets and of course identify your target first.
  
  I could be wrong, but have cops become even more fu*ked up over the last 4 years or am I wrong?
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:26pm
  @RLTW
  
  Notice that both sides of the truck were shot up. They were “hunting” one large man. They chose to fire on a vehicle occupied by nothing they new for sure. Every target practice and every hunt I have ever gone on involved me knowing full well what I was shooting at and what was behind it. The LAPD has big problems with this one. And they thought Rodney King soaked them.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:55pm
  RTLW, Last FOUR years? Where have you been for the last 30?
  
  Ole,
  They won’t get a dime. Turkey shoots are freebies. Plus, they were not black.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 4:11am
  @ Olefrommn
  
  If this gets in front of a jury, $32,500 is going to seem cheap…
  
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jessieH
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:16pm
I hope they win the lawsuit.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:13am
  The cops need to go to jail
  
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TheEDGE
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:14pm
Wow! The cops have really been slinging some lead lately.

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:57pm
  It is all part of a huge psy-op. Shoot up the joint as often as possible to get the folks to fear them and not fight back when the time comes. It will not work though.
  
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- sasquatch08
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:44pm
  Why would fear guys who can’t hit their target at 20 yards with 108 rounds?
  
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Clownzilla
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:14pm
She can get MANY trucks with the money she is going to get from these snakes.

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:59pm
  They won’t get squat and the goons will be out on the street in no time. Gov’ts just love these types of cretins. Keeps the people scared and the politicians in power. They ain’t going nowhere.
  
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termyt
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:11pm
“Hi, My name is Emma. I got shot up by the police, but at least I got get my picture taken with them and got a truck for half price!”

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crusaderx9
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:07pm
How do you do THAT, and NOT get fired?

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- TheEDGE
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:13pm
  You get a job with the government.
  
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- crusaderx9
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:12pm
  there’s gotta be a Union involved as well…
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:07pm
Those women need a better lawyer!

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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:25pm
  Yes, they need a real “legal scholar” who claims to know anything and everything. I wonder where they could find one. Hmm…….
  
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peteto1
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:07pm
If these women settle for less than $500,000 they’re insane. This was a case of GROSS, life-threatening negligence. The LAPD owes these women a lot more than they’re offering!…..

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- fwross
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:46pm
  $500.000 is insane! Nothing less than $15 million and a new truck for both woman, if they live, and aren’t to traumatized to drive anymore.
  
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KevINtampa
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:59pm
Obviously these women posed no immediate threat. They were delivering news papers. There is no difference between the actions of these officers and Obama ordering a drone strike on a citizen driving to work. Both are non-combatants not posing an IMMEDIATE threat. The law requires us to arrest, try, and convict criminals before we execute them.

A jury should decide if these officers broke the law.

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- rickc34
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:04pm
  I smell a 7 figure law suit coming.
  
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- kenboo1
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:12pm
  police training… shot first then write a report… Yeah those LA police are bad Mother (shut your mouth)… Just think how jumpy the police will be when they get orders to confiscate our guns…
  
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- roushbj
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:18pm
  The solution to me is simple. File a multi-billion lawsuit against the city of LA, bankrupt that whole sh_ithole and happily pay the taxes on your gain.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:16am
  It is not as if the police didn’t know dorner’s license plate number. These lady’s truck didn’t even come close to matching dorner’s vehicle. The police are nothing more than murderous gang bangers. The LAPD all deserve to be put to grass.
  
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PatriotDadOfSix
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:54pm
This is all part of Obama’s Amerika people. By lowering competency standards and test scores for law enforcement, it becomes easier for the public to distrust them. The more we distrust, the more likely we will defy them. Then we have an overwhelming populace that act like beatnick hippies defying the ‘pigs’ of the sixties. All part of the radical left agenda folks. The bottom rises up, the top comes down, and the big bad government is there to protect us all. Put a happy face on all of it, and just let the socialism wash over you. Quit your jobs and become part of the suckling class; it ensures no worries, and good times for all.

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- KevINtampa
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Good point. Any recommendations on how to not have things go in that direction?
  
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- TheEDGE
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:46pm
  The more diverse police departments become, the more they shoot first and ask questions later. Half of today’s police force are short, chubby, lesbians who are obviously unqualified and scared. Lets see, now. Out of shape, scared, and heavily armed government employees are what will likely respond in an adverse situation. Patriot dad- you are so right. Why would anyone want to call 911?
  
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mrwolfy
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:53pm
why dont they force the pig union to pay out of pocket, or deduct the cost from the salary from those pigs involved. “pigs” really doesnt do them justice- go to CA and deal with their cops, they are terrible. 20 yr old punks who never handled a gun before training, who go on ego trips since they have a badge. Min age for a cop should be 25 so they can be a tad bit more mature when starting out

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- PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:06pm
  That 70′s show. Idiot, pothead Kelso becomes a cop and has a gun. Probably happens more than we know in the progressives states of dopes.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:06pm
  All of you guys just don’t get it do you? The politicians LOVE these kind of cops. They LOVE the ones that are so immersed in the Koolaid that they will do anything against those that defy the govt. Oh no, do not be mistaken. When the heat dies down these goons will be promoted to sergeant. The chicks will not see a dime for at least 10 years min. If at all.
  
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carbonyes
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:53pm
Mistaken identity! That’s Bullsh!t with a capital “B”. That is gross neglect of duty at a minimum. There is no frigging way that they unload on a vehicle in the dark before determining what they are about to shoot at. Before this is over, they are going to owe these ladies a lot more than a $32,000.00 SUV. The police need to be taken to the cleaners on this one. Maybe they will revamp their procedures or look at the lulu belles that they hired on the police force who obviously fired with complete disregard of the consequences.
Just because they were looking for someone who took down “one of their own” does not give them the right to shoot anything that moves, which is pretty much what they did.

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ALfromVAl
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:50pm
nothing ****** me off more than people suing over the stupidest little things, In this case I hope they sue the LAPD into bankruptcy

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- asybot12
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:24pm
  Sadly enough the LAPD is already bankrupt both financially but worse, morally.
  
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KevINtampa
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:49pm
What happened to identifying yourself as a police officer and issuing instructions before you shoot two innocent people?

What these officers did is a crime. They should be awaiting a trial by public jury. I understand being a police officer is intense, if they couldn’t handle that stress they should have removed themselves from law enforcement. It is entirely arguable they committed attempted murder, they should be charged and tried with a jury deciding the verdict.

But that won’t happen. Not because it’s LA. It won’t happen because that doesn’t happen in a police state, and make no mistake, America is indeed a police state. Stories like this simply prove it.

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:11pm
  Kevin hits nail on head. Like I said in above posts, the criminal politicians LOVE these type of cops. They keep them in power so they can rape the people’s money. These cretins are not going anywhere. They will be promoted and given raises for swimming in the commie Koolaid.
  
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- Mr.buff1959
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 3:38am
  amen.
  
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tnman65
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:47pm
I very seldom ever say these words but SUE THE HELL OUT OF THEM!!!!!!!

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ALfromVAl
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:47pm
They should be charged with attempted murder! How in the HE!! did they shot 100 times at unarmed women and still have a job. Must be in an union.

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spirited
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:44pm
Hmmm, a bit piggish. No?

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hallkbrdz
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:44pm
Please sue the officers, and not the city. Us citizens are tired of paying for the mistakes by Govt. workers.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 10:29am
  Not possible.They have immunity.The only ones to be sued in this case is the city.
  
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TheBurningTruth
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:42pm
If Dorner had been out to kill only civilians, the LAPD would never had put in place the huge manhunt they did. It was only because THEY and their families felt threatened that the LAPD did this. Then they proceeded to shoot up several civilian cars without positive ID of their target. Now, they want the state to benefit from this travesty. Remember, these women already had a vehicle but now they have to pay income tax on the replacement for that destroyed vehicle.

Big governments mean big tyranny.

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PK_SEA
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:41pm
100 rounds blindly shot at a vehicle similar to the one they were looking for. Nice job LAPD. This woman will have a legitimate lawsuit and the tax payers will be stuck with the bill. It would have been much cheaper to just give her the new truck no strings attached.

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- KevINtampa
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:55pm
  It wasn’t even the same color or manufacturer. It was simply a truck, a non-similar. These officers should be awaiting trial. Obviously these women posed no immediate threat. They were delivering news papers. There is no difference between the actions of these officers and Obama ordering a drone strike on a citizen driving to work. Both are non-combatants not posing an IMMEDIATE threat. The law requires us to arrest, try, and convict criminals before we execute them.
  
  A jury should decide if these officers broke the law.
  
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- MDECKER
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:12pm
  Isn’t LA in Mexico? Why do we care about LA?
  
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eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:38pm
Screw that – do not accept anything – SUE THEM! This woman really needs to sue the LAPD – she deserves much MUCH more than some $32,500 truck.

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electroencephalographic
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:37pm
WtF?

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GLOCKU
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:36pm
“non-field assignments”???? Are you fricking kidding me??? FIRE THEM and CHARGE THEM!

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Excomunicatedmarine
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:35pm
What happened to the “acquire your target before firing ” part of their training ?

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- OldSurfRat
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:47pm
  Ex
  
  auhhhhhhh YEAH.
  Talk about not identifying your target.
  Hell just shoot every blue pick up tha drives by. That outta do the trick.
  
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- STREBOR
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:00pm
  It’s obvious the LAPD has little training time on target identification and acquisition. That days memo was in the form of flash cards.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:40pm
  Maybe the cop was “Ed 209″?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chtoRwsLFSQ
  
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