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A New Pope Could Come Today: Here’s Everything You Need to Know About the Conclave

Mar. 12, 2013 6:55am Billy Hallowell

VATICAN CITY (TheBlaze/AP) — Cardinals celebrated a final Mass on Tuesday before sequestering themselves in the Sistine Chapel for the conclave to elect the next pope, seeking to overcome their divisions and rally behind a single man who can lead the 1.2 billion-strong Catholic Church and tend to its many problems.

As a Gregorian chant filled St. Peter’s Basilica, the 115 cardinals who will participate in the conclave filed in wearing bright red vestments, many looking grim as if the burden of the imminent vote was weighing on them.

Everything You Need to Know About the Conclave to Elect a New Pope

Tourists walk under heavy rain while a giant screen shows a mass of cardinals on St Peter’s square ahead of a conclave on March 12, 2013 at St Peter’s square at the Vatican. Cardinals moved into the Vatican on Tuesday as the suspense mounted ahead of a secret papal election with no clear frontrunner to steer the Catholic world through troubled waters after Benedict XVI’s historic resignation. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

In his homily, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, dean of the College of Cardinals, called for unity within the church, a not-so-veiled appeal to the cardinal electors to put their differences aside for the good of the church.

“Each of us is therefore called to cooperate with the Successor of Peter, the visible foundation of such an ecclesial unity,” Sodano said.

He was interrupted by applause from the pews – not so much from the cardinals – when he referred to the “beloved and venerated” Benedict XVI and his “brilliant” pontificate.

Benedict’s surprise resignation – the first in 600 years by a pope – has thrown the church into turmoil and exposed the deep divisions among cardinals who are grappling with whether they need a manager who can clean up the Vatican’s dysfunctional bureaucracy or a pastor who can inspire Catholics at a time of waning faith.

A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE CARDINALS COME FROM

In the papal conclave that begins Tuesday, 115 cardinals will elect the next pope. All of them were created either by Benedict XVI or Pope John Paul II, ensuring that whoever is chosen will follow in their conservative line. Here’s their geographic distribution:

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EUROPE: 60 electors, or more than half the bloc. Italy alone claims 28, followed by Germany with six.

NORTH AMERICA: 14 electors, with 11 from the United States and three from Canada.

LATIN AMERICA: 19 electors. Brazil has the most with five.

AFRICA: 11 electors, with Nigeria counting two.

ASIA: 10 electors, with India counting five.

OCEANIA: One elector: Sydney Cardinal George Pell.

THE FIRST VOTE MAY BE HELD TODAY

In the afternoon, the 115 cardinal electors will file into the frescoed Sistine Chapel singing the Litany of Saints, a hypnotic chant imploring the intercession of saints to help them choose a pope. They will hear a meditation by an elderly Maltese cardinal, take an oath of secrecy, then in all probability cast their first ballots.

Assuming they vote, the first puffs of smoke should emerge from the chapel chimney by 8 p.m. (1900 GMT; 3 p.m. EDT) – black for no pope, white if a pope has been chosen.

The conclave is taking place amid more upheaval and uncertainty than the church has seen in decades: There’s no front-runner, no indication how long voting will last and no sense that a single man has what it takes to be pope.

American Cardinals walk to a bus to take them from the North American College to St. Peter’s Basilica where a Pro Eligendo Romano Pontifice Mass will be celebrated before they enter the Conclave to decide who the next pope will be on March 12, 2013 in Rome, Italy. Cardinals are set to enter the conclave to elect a successor to Pope Benedict XVI after he became the first pope in 600 years to resign from the role. The conclave is scheduled to start in the afternoon inside the Sistine Chapel and will be attended by 115 cardinals as they vote to select the 266th Pope of the Catholic Church. Credit: Getty Images

The buzz swirled around Cardinal Angelo Scola, an Italian seen as favored by cardinals hoping to shake up the powerful Vatican bureaucracy, and Brazilian Cardinal Odilo Scherer, a favorite of Vatican-based insiders intent on preserving the status quo. Other names included Canadian Cardinal Marc Oullet, who heads the Vatican’s powerful office for bishops, and American Cardinal Timothy Dolan.

Going into the vote, cardinals offered wildly different assessments of what they’re looking for in the next pontiff and how close they are to a decision. It was evidence that Benedict XVI’s surprise resignation has continued to destabilize the church leadership and that his final appeal for unity may go unheeded, at least in the early rounds of voting.

A few cardinals also sent their last tweets before entering the conclave, which forbids communication with the outside world.

“Heavenly Father, guide our hearts and grant us wisdom and strength tomorrow,” Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson, considered to have an outside chance to be pope, tweeted late Monday.

A LOOK AT CONCLAVES OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS

Over the past century, no conclave has lasted more than five days and the fastest vote was for Pope Pius XII. Twice prelates from North America missed the vote because they couldn’t get to Rome in time, and a Hungarian cardinal sat out two conclaves because he was holed up in the U.S. Embassy in Budapest seeking asylum.

A look at a century of conclave balloting.

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July 31-Aug. 4, 1903: Italian Cardinal Giuseppe Sarto (Pius X) elected on seven ballots over four days. Sixty-two of 64 cardinals participated.

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Aug. 31-Sept. 3, 1914: Italian Cardinal Giacomo della Chiesa (Benedict XV) elected on 10th ballot on third day. Fifty-six of 65 cardinals participated. Cardinals from Boston, Baltimore and Quebec arrived after the election.

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Feb. 2-6, 1922: Italian Cardinal Achille Ratti (Pius XI) elected on 14th ballot on fifth day. Fifty-three of 60 cardinals participated. Cardinals from Boston, Philadelphia and Quebec arrived too late.

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March 1-2, 1939: Italian Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (Pius XII) elected on third ballot on second day. All 62 cardinals participated.

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Oct. 25-28, 1958: Italian Cardinal Angelo Roncalli (John XXIII) elected on 11th ballot on fourth day. Fifty-one of 53 cardinals participated. Cardinal Jozsef Mindszenty of Hungary had taken asylum in the U.S. Embassy in Budapest, and Yugoslav Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac was under house arrest.

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June 19-21, 1963: Italian Cardinal Giovanni Battista Montini (Paul VI) elected on sixth ballot on third day. Eighty of the 88 cardinals participated. Mindszenty was still in U.S. Embassy asylum.

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Aug. 25-26, 1978: Italian Cardinal Albino Luciano (John Paul I) elected on fourth ballot on second day. A total of 111 cardinals from 49 nations and territories took part and three were absent because of illness; 15 cardinals could not join under new rule limiting vote age to under 80.

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Oct. 14-16, 1978: Polish Cardinal Karol Wojtyla (John Paul II) elected on eighth ballot on third day to become first non-Italian pope since Adrian VI (1522-1523). A total of 111 cardinals from 49 nations and territories took part.

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April 18-19, 2005: German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) elected on fourth ballot on second day. A total of 115 cardinals from 52 nations and territories took part.

HOW TECHNOLOGY WILL IMPACT THE CONCLAVE

It’s not only the cardinals who are using technology to communicate about the conclave. The general public, too, has ben invited to use new media tools to keep updated.

A Catholic organization has set up a website that lets people register to receive a text or email notification when a pope has been selected.

While the process of selecting a new pope is as old as the ages, there are enough changes to the media to make the last papal conclave – in 2005 – seem like ancient history.

Screen shot from PopeAlarm.com

The text service was set up by the Fellowship of Catholic University Students, or FOCUS, and had proven so popular with more than 40,000 respondents that the popealarm website said Monday it was accepting no new registrants. The site hopes to increase its capacity before the cardinals begin voting, said Jeremy Rivera, spokesman for the Christian campus ministry.

“When the smoke goes up, you’ll know what’s going down” is the website’s motto.

FOCUS paid nearly $10,000 to set up the free service, figuring it was good publicity. Now the group’s leaders are sifting through co-sponsorship offers from other organizations impressed with the amount of online traffic it has generated and hoping for their own exposure, he said.

Another new website assigns interested people one of the voting cardinals at random to pray for him as he deliberates on a new pope. More than 450,000 people had signed up by Monday.

For more about the conclave voting process, click here.

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Comments (53)

Hcall
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:25pm
Until the child abuse addressed and acted on no conversation about the church can be completed

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jacarlton
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:33pm
I’m so sick of listening to conservatives bash Catholics. You think their traditions are silly? Ok, then please never put up another Christmas tree, Christmas lights, never eat turkey on Thanksgiving again and stop setting off fireworks on the 4th of July. Your traditions are silly and you’re simply buying into the commercialization of modern society.

Seriously, to make you people happy you’d have to be a non-Catholic Christian, gun-owning, anti-gay marriage truck-driving redneck. I’m beginning to think more and more that you people are the reason America is becoming more and more liberal; because people don’t like your self-righteous exclusive BS. Get over yourselves.

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Raging_Waters
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:37pm
Humble pomp?

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theotherberean
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:32pm
“In the afternoon, the 115 cardinal electors will file into the frescoed Sistine Chapel singing the Litany of Saints, a hypnotic chant imploring the intercession of saints to help them choose a pope.”

Prayer is a form of worship; a devout petition or a spiritual communication reserved for God and God alone. Praying (petitioning, supplication, imploring intercession, etc.) to someone other than God, is idol worship, plain and simple.

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- Raging_Waters
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:45pm
  Itchy ears aplenty…
  
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battles
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:53am
black for no pope, white if a pope, gray smoke if Vatican on fire

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- Raging_Waters
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:40pm
  Red smoke for Commie Pope.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 3:13pm
  One bong, two bong, red bong, blue bong?
  
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john vincent
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:45am
Well I tried to be impartial in my judgement of this article, but noticed a a few glaring truths:

-’a prayer was tweeted’—————automatically forfeiting that prayer, as it was directed at man

-’the burden of the imminent vote was upon the cardinals’———————–somewhat suspicious for a greater man said: take my yoke upon you………….my burden is light……………’

-spoke of a ‘brilliant pontificate’——–referring to Benedict—————-the first alleged pope was neither brilliant nor a gold clad man

-the popealarm website?—————————-

Therefore it is my opinion: This is religious machinery at the highest level, a legalized mafia as it were, clothed in pageantry, suspense, secrecy, and I for one, am not impressed, and I am certain that the true God is not impressed either.

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battles
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:31am
“black for no pope, white if a pope”

DISCRIMINATION !!!

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battles
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:30am
“Here’s Everything You Need to Know About the Conclave”, even if your not Roman Catholic and further, couldn’t care less.

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POET
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:13am
One needs to remember in all this Glit and Glamer over the Power of the Church, and read “Danti”

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RussellB
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:47am
The new antichrist is being chosen God help this world!!!

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- Obama Snake Oil Co
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:35am
  Nope, he is already here. He was elected in November of last year.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:59am
  OBAMA SNAKE OIL
  
  Obama is not the anti christ. He does not have the authority to speak for the world
  
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artman
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:18am
You can put on pointy hats, dress up in expensive robes, claim to have special water and swing a smoking lamp on a chain but there was this guy that they crucified over 2000 years ago that broke thru all those man- made religious games. He came to set up a new relationship with God based on an individualistic relationship that men have rejected in order to keep power over others and claim to have a special path to a relationship with God. Sorry, but a Pope or Cardinal is just a man. And, as we see with all the scandal today around the Church, God has a way of showing us how futile it is to claim that man’s nature is special when we put some on a high pedestal.

It’s GRACE. And we don’t need anyone asking for it in our place. It’s just between God and YOU. This is all just man’s attempt at placing themselves in a place of power. And, like all attempts, it is futile.

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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:42am
  If it’s just between God and YOU, then aren’t you the man seeking power? Wearing a baseball cap, dressing in jeans and claiming you know better? Jesus chose 12 men. Traveled and taught them for 3 years. Then He told Peter He wanted to build His Church. Catholics have an unbroken link to this moment in time. It is by no means a perfect connection, but Jesus did promise He would send an advocate to guide this Church and the gates of hell would not prevail against it.
  
  Believing the words Jesus said is silly, but believing YOU are able to read the Bible and come up with infallible truth is smart? Maybe that’s why we have One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and the world has 30,000 plus denominations all claiming to know the truth and all who disagree are wrong. If you were right, then would you all agree?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:59pm
  At the moment of Jesus’ death, the Temple veil was wrent from top to bottom, thereby signifying that we now have full access to the Father, once for all, through the perfect sacrifice of our Lord, Savior and final High Priest, Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “no one comes to the Father except through me.” Jn 14:6.
  
  Therefore, we do not need “a church,” a pope, cardinals, bishops or priests, to attain salvation. We only need Jesus Christ.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:02pm
  Then why did Jesus pick 12 men who traveled with him for 3 years
  He personally taught them things that are not written in the Bible (if you believe the Bible)
  Then He said “I will build my Church”(again Bible)
  For the next 1,500 years if you were Christian, you belonged to the Catholic Church or a group that seperated from this Church. No of those groups exist today. But a funny thing happened when Martin Luther reinvented Christainity. He was taking a dump in the tower when he “discovered” Sola Fida and had 11 books edited or completely deleted to match this new “truth”. That started the ball rolling, now you have 30,000 + denominations all claiming to be 100% right and still the Catholic Church stands, just like Jesus promised.
  
  I’m sure Jesus was quite surprised when Peter and the gang went off and started a church without his permission. They even tricked Paul to say “the church is the Pillar and Bullwork of the Faith”
  
  I guess they didn’t know about the whole tearing of the temple vail
  
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Sargeking
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:05am
The odds on favorite is the guy from Austria. There will never be an American or African Pope. That’s been the history since the end of the Dark Ages.

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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:05am
  St. Victor I (Pope#14 : 189-198) was born and raised in Africa.
  St Miltiades (Pope #32 311-314) was also from Africa.
  St. Gelasius (#49 496-498). African
  You are correct. That’s it, none since 498
  
  Most people who say African, mean Black.
  I know you know this, but not all Africans are black.
  
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Sargeking
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:56am
We basically already know who won’t be elected but what we he call himself? I hope it’s something other than John. I prefer something more flowery, such as Pope Surleius of Abridgement or Pontiff Pictillum of the Alps.

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BaldingEagle1776
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:30am
Haha, “all you need to know.” Oh boy, we love being spoon fed!

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Xanderson
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:22am
Thank you Billy Hallowell! This article is chock full of useful info and stats and devoid of slant and slurs about Catholicism. What a refreshing change!

I will be praying for the cardinals and ignoring the haters today! God bless us all!

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azghost
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:22am
The catholic church changes a lot, in the year 1000 they went from a water baptize to water sprinkle’s, they worship mary. http://jesus-is-lord.com/ …there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (I Timothy 2:5-6)
The Roman Catholic religion teaches multitudes to pray to “Mary” instead of in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It calls its Mary “the Queen of Heaven”. In Jeremiah chapters 7 and 44 (along with Deuteronomy 32:16-17), the Queen of Heaven is revealed to be a devil. The Roman Catholic institution says that our precious Lord Jesus is turned into a little ******* (the eucharist) when the priest speaks certain words at the “mass”. God could have used any women to bring Jesus to earth he chose mary I praise her for that but I do not worship her. Don’t misunderstand me satan is very good at deception, deceiving people is what he’s best at. Many Catholic & Christian’s are being deceived by their church leaders, my family and I only attend a Bible based church. I can tell you right now it’s awesome to be blessed, and being in the right church blesses you in all parts of your lives when Jesus is the head of your church!

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- BaldingEagle1776
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:42am
  Well good for you, you nosey little busybody. Mind your own business!
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:18am
  @ baldeagle. IDIOT
  
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- Dudley Do-Right
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:04am
  I guess only the lucky few who could read or actually own a bible before Gutenberg invented the printing press went to heaven.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:28am
  “in the year 1000 they went from a water baptize to water sprinkle’s” Got any proof of this? Do you seriously want people to believe that the early Christians who were KILLED for be Christian always immersed those who were being baptized? No, they were hiding in caves and in the catacombs, not standing in the middle of the river where they could be seen.
  “worship mary” wrong again. Venerate, glorify, hold in high honor yes, worship …NO. Learn the difference.
  One mediator between God and Men, Yes. Mary is the mother of Jesus, Jesus was God and Man. Honor you Father AND Mother, does this not apply to Jesus?
  Mary has held this position ever since the days of the apostles. Do you really think one of the 12 would disrespect Jesus’ mother the way you do? Martin Luther was a big Marianologist.
  The queen of heaven is really the devil, seriously. Nothing unclean can enter into heaven and you have the devil himself seated on the Queens throne?
  “Roman Catholic institution says that our precious Lord Jesus is turned into a little ******* (the eucharist)” Nope. Jesus said “this is my Body…this is my blood”
  “satan is very good at deception” and boy does he have you fooled
  The Bible you worship, was compiled, protected and canonized by the Catholic Church. You are welcome. But you probably use the EDITED version. So you also worship Luther and King James. I’m not sure, but weren’t they just men?
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:33am
  Jesus is the head of the Catholic Church and we are the body.
  We have His promise.
  One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. Your man made church will fade from view when the MAN you listen to passes from this earth.
  
  Try reading something that is not from an anti-catholic.
  Try Catholic.com
  Don’t be afraid you might learn just how wrong you are.
  
  BTW is doubt you have the courage to read something other than what the anti-catholics tell you to read. 30,000 plus denominations can’t be wrong. But wait don’t you all read the same Bible? Why don’t you all agree?
  Because Satan is a divider that’s why.
  
  Come home to the fullness of faith
  
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- msconstrue
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:42am
  @by faith…….your intentions are honorable, but wasted. some people simply do not understand, nor do they choose to.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:02am
  BY FAITH
  
  Words have meaning and calling Mary a co-redeemer is calling her a part of the redemptive process.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:14am
  MSCONSTRUE
  I agree with your statement.
  It’s not the first time I have banged my head against this wall.
  
  Giving Biblical and historical facts to those that hate; only to turn around and see the same “genius” still spreading the same lies. Some are unwilling to even examine the truth. They are so lost in their deception.
  
  But I am not foolish enough to think it is up to my powers of persuasion. God does the converting, I just spread the seeds.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:23am
  Believing in the pre-tribulation rapture also means something. It means you follow the twisted beliefs of a girl who had a vision not quite 200 years ago. But I digress.
  Co-redeemer, co-redemptrix, mediatrix
  It will help if you understand what the Church means by such doctrines and what it does not mean. First, the Church recognizes that Jesus in the ultimate sense is our only redeemer—plain and simple. Only God could make up for an offense against his divinity. When Jesus, the second Person of the Blessed Trinity, became man, he used the services of several human beings. He used prophets, the last of whom was his cousin, John the Baptist. He used St. Joseph as his foster father to protect him and to be a father to him in his formative years. Most of all, he used Mary as his mother who gave birth to him, nursed him, and nurtured him as a child. All of these people cooperated with him and his mission of salvation. He alone was the redeemer in the ultimate sense, but they cooperated with him in his work of redemption. In varying degrees they all could be called co-redeemers because of such cooperation. But because of her unique role and the degree of her cooperation, Mary is singled out. In all of humanity, God singled her out for a truly sublime role. Nursing Almighty God at her breast is beyond our ability to fully appreciate. Yet thousands of Christians since the Protestant reformation have completely ignored such sublimity.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:26am
  What is said of co-redemptrix is also true of mediatrix. Because these terms can be highly misleading, the Church has not infallibly proclaimed them. (See article: http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/ORMARIA2.HTM) Nevertheless, God is the one who singled Mary out for the unique role in salvation that she has. She did not seek out such distinction. It is important to remember the high praise Jesus lavished on St. John the Baptist. Yet his mission was not nearly as exalted as Mary’s. Jesus worked his first miracle at her request. All she needed to say was: “They have no wine.” He understood exactly what she wanted. He could have taken care of the matter on his own. But he chose to have his mother’s intercession be a part of the mix. The miracle wasn’t any less significant because of her part in it. On the contrary, she shows us how accessible he is to our needs. To truly appreciate Mary is to appreciate her Son all the more.
  
  A 2 second search on Catholic.com would have answered you question.
  But that’s right, you arn’t allowed to read Catholic sources. You only read anti-catholic writings to supposedly find out what Catholics believe.
  
  Good idea, I only take medicine recommended to me by people who never took it. They know better than the people who actually take the medicine.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:31am
  Rapture,
  I know you wont read it, but the link below by Fr. Dwight Longenecker (a married priest with 4 children) goes into great detail about the Catholic view of Mary and her role in our salvation
  
  http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/mary-mother-of-salvation
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 2:53pm
  FAITH, I am a recovering Catholic, having studied my way out of her many years ago, so your “ignorance” argument doesn’t work with me. I just want to comment that your facts are a little off, and we actually have much more in common than you seem to indicate. I would however recommend a very good source of information co-written by a Catholic and an Evangelical, which may clear up many of the misconceptions you do have. -Roman Catholics and Evangelicals -Agreements and Differences- Norman Geisler and Ralph E. MacKenzie.
  
  As for the Bible’s origin, the early church may have been quasi-Catholic, but they absolutely were not Roman Catholic in the modern sense and the RCC did not give us the Bible. God gave us the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17). God may have used the early church councils to canonize the Bible, but God was completely sovereign throughout the process.
  
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- PK_SEA
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 3:35pm
  BY FAITH: Thank you.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:16pm
  Other
  “we actually have much more in common than you seem to indicate.” Since I wasn’t responding to you, I find that hard to believe. How could I possibly indicate we do or do not agree if you are not part of the conversation?
  I already read that particular book, but thanks Recovering Catholic.
  So we do agree, God used the Church to give use the Bible.
  History says that Church was most definitely Catholic.
  AD 382 Council of Rome led by Pope Damasus – First to list all 73 books
  AD 397 the Council of Carthage led by Pope Innocent ratified 73 books
  First written reference to the Catholic Church…107 AD
  155AD Justin Martyr wrote about how mass was celebrated, Eucharist and all.
  Acts of the Apostles is filled with “Catholic” imagery.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:24pm
  You didn’t leave the Church because you found the truth, you left the church because you wanted to define your own authority.
  
  You left the fullness of faith because you believed the lies satan told you.
  
  Be not afraid, I unlike you do not condemn people who disagree with me.
  
  All metaphors are flawed, but here is a simple one
  Religion is like going to a restaurant to eat. You can go to Taco Bell and get all you need to live.
  I prefer to eat a Ruth Chris’.
  
  except when you go to Taco Bell, you probaly tell the workers they are making the Tacos wrong.
  and then start your own taco stand
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 8:23pm
  I left the church because of the pagan practices
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:20am
To use the slang phrase, ‘why would anyone want to know?’

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AMENDMENT
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:15am
Angelo Scola? I thought Peter Turkson, AKA Peter of Roman was the favorite.

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Mia Cav
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:13am
Chuck, I am thankful to have finished Gutfeld’s _The Joy of Hate_ just days before reading your comment on the Papal election. I will be praying that your anger is abated trough the grace of God. Peace be with you.

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- chucksue351
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:34am
  thank you for your comment, forgive me if my comments came across as anger, it is more of sorrow for the people entrapped in a false religious system, look at the fruits of the catholic system and try them by the Scriptures and they will fall apart again the people should look at the word of John in the Revelation of Yeshua the Messiah, Come out of Her my People, please read book of the same name
  
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- msconstrue
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:11am
  i think not anger, but more self-righteousness and intolerance. maybe if this is all you are finding in the Bible, you might need to re-read it.
  
  you my friend may be the one that has fallen into the trap.
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:30am
  again thank you for your comments, it is good to have a full and honest talk about the most important thing in the world and that is the relationship we have with the Heavenly Father, for it is by His favor only that we can come into His presence, however the intolerance you speak of is not from me but from the self rightgeous religious systems man has concoted over the centuries whether catholic, baptist, buddist or muslin, it makes not difference, please have a wonderful fine day May Father YVHV bless and keep you in His love i got to go to work
  
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chucksue351
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:51am
this should be under the heading of business not faith, the catholic church is no more than a multi billion multi country business, and a lot of it seems to be illegal, their model is not from the scriptures and their so called faith is nothing more than paganism

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- john654
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:17am
  Ya right, thank god for you “The Scriptures” fell out of the sky 500 years ago! Your the pagan!
  
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- msconstrue
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:27am
  que up the haters!!!!……chucksue, if you’re not interested then why read the article? Catholism is an ancient religion, and not perfect ( as if any are), but why do you feel the need to slander?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 3:10pm
  While we agree on many doctrines, it’s those extra-Biblical traditions that elicit comments that you consider “hate.” Notice we don’t attack “your” character, we point out Biblical truths concerning your church and it’s doctrines. There is no reason to focus your reply on our character. If these truths offend you then perhaps you’re in the wrong church.
  
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- by faith
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:43pm
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  Remeber when you threatened me with physical violence?
  Now you accuse MSCONSTRUE of character attacks?
  
  Remember when you boldly and arrogantly posted that “at least one of those “Popes” did not even profess a faith in Jesus Christ”.
  Did you ever find that proof you promissed?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 8:25pm
  I threatened you with physical violence? You’re nuts.
  
  And yes, there was one pope who did not profess a faith in Jesus Christ. No, I haven’t bothered to look it up. Do a search.
  
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