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‘Gun Girl’ Confronts Dem. Rep. at Town Hall With Tough Question — and He Literally Refuses to Answer

Mar. 12, 2013 4:00pm Mytheos Holt

With Colorado’s efforts to regulate gun rights in the national news, and Congress now considering similar legislation to tighten controls on the trafficking of guns, plenty of Democratic politicians have found themselves confronted with tough questions, to which they sometimes give embarrassing answers. One Democrat, however, apparently thought the fix for this was to not answer the question at all.

Enter Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), who was asked one of the more pointed questions about this issue at a recent forum on preventing gun violence by Celia Bigelow, a woman described derisively by Piers Morgan as one of the “gun girls.” He not only failed to answer the question, he didn’t even try. He refused. Watch below:

“Why aren’t you pro-choice when it comes to self-defense for women?” she asks.

His response: “On to the next question. I’m choosing to move to the next question.”

CNS News also caught Moran dismissing gun rights supporters who fear a ban on guns as “paranoid.” Watch that interaction below:

“I can understand that there’s always going to be people who are ‘paranoid’ over government attempting to intrude into their life and there are no plans to go after handguns, although I do support legislation that would limit the purchase of handguns to no more than one a month, which seems to be reasonable,” Moran told MRCTV.

Many of Moran’s constituents, being from the deep blue northern region of Virginia, would be unlikely to disagree with most of this. However, his comments (or lack thereof) will almost certainly be used as further ammunition by conservatives to demonstrate the evasiveness of his ideological camp.

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Joshua81
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:05pm
Ashamed of my state of Va.. in our defense, Northern Va really shouldn’t be considered apart of this state. Give it to DC, the rest (and most) of us do not agree with anything Northern Va does.

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- dirigo
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:19pm
  It’s the same here in Maine. So. Maine is nothing more than Northern Mass and is filled with progressive liberals. Their population is much higher than the rest of the state and is mostly dems. Where as Augusta north we are mostly independents and repubs.
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:45pm
  Don’t be ashamed…these Lib Morons are all over. Look at Colorado, California, and NY, etc. Especially the Midget King Mike Bllomberg and his pocket pool boy Ray Kelly in NYC. We have to stand against these P’sOS who think they know what’s good for us and will impose their will on us anyway they can!
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:09pm
  Well some folks do cuz those anti individual; more government control idiots keep getting elected and reelected….
  
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- NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:29pm
  Sounds like you have the same problem many of us have in the Soviet State of Washington. The Puget Sound area has the population to control the rest of the state. We have the land mass, they have the votes.
  
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- CanteenBoy
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:47pm
  @joshua
  
  you had it correct – N. Va should be considered “apart” of this state.
  
  I’ve lived in northern Virginia since 1978.
  
  I don’t recognize it anymore – it’s like DC and MD threw up on it.
  
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- carbonyes
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:05pm
  What can you say? Moran, like mostly liberal Democrats is also a moron. Egotistical blithering wind bags who know nothing but their predigested talking points, and if the voters ever escape theirs low information corral, they just may begin to do the right thing and send these horses’ hind ends packing.
  
  See http://www.libertymind.com for forensic psychiatrist, Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr. M. D.’s book, The Liberal Mind: The Psychologic Causes of Political Madness.
  
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- The_Fifth_Column
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:32pm
  Don’t be ashamed of the State, be ashamed of it’s Government. Never give an inch to these so called Progressive Democrats (Communists for the true word). The squeaky wheel gets the grease. They have used this tactic for many years, and that is why things are, as they are. Form alliances with like minded folks, and organize “Massive” marches on State Capitals, County and City Seats, and support the NRA. If they win this battle for America, you wont like the outcome.
  
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- fande3rls
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:36pm
  Joshua81 > Join the VCDL , its the best Pro 2nd amendment group in VA , many of the pro gun right bills that have passed is because of VCDL .
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:50pm
  Oh, look, meatEEYORS typed a whole lot of self indulgent crap again. Try to keep your crap to a line or two meatEEYORS; it’s greener too.
  
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- CanteenBoy
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:17pm
  meteors –
  
  are you still beating yours?
  
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- Innocent
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:29pm
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  Yes she asked a loaded question. So did Socrates, he did not answer the question because his response would have been. I disagree with you protecting yourself with weapons hidden on your body. You do know that the bill is about getting rid of the right for citizens to arm themselves with a Conceal and carry permit right? Based on the rest of your response it does not seem like you realize this is the case. The bill is not about RPG’s. or 100 round drums, but a citizens right to carry a weapon with them.
  
  Finally the ‘are you still beating your wife’ question is actually a fallacious argument. If I ask you are you still beating your wife, would not the appropriate answer be… “Well Since I never have beat my wife I suppose I have never started beating her. Why do you ask?”
  
  In this case it was an attempt to draw a parallel that you have the right to be pro-choice about your reproductive system but you do not have the right to choose to carry a concealed weapon to protect yourself.
  
  I am sorry but your response to this situation reeks of ignorance and a mindset of the dogmatic ( not that there is not plenty of that on the right or left anyway ) however in this case you attempt to display your superior intellect only to look the fool to those that can actually think through the REAL issues.
  
  Now if you would like to talk about banning guns and why I am against it we can. If you wish to be flippant and ignorant please go buy and education then let
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:03pm
  SENDTHEMETEORS,
  
  The Mission of the NRA is this:
  
  To protect the Second Amendment right to bear arms, and to promote safe, responsible, and competent use of firearms.
  
  You say, and I quote:
  “Nobody is is trying to prevent people from defending themselves, although obviously you don’t need a AR-15 with a 100 round drum to defend yourself outside a war zone, nor hand grenades or RPGs or fully automatic belt-fed machine guns.”
  
  Obviously? If I want to use an AR-15 with a 100 round drum to defend myself….I AM GOING TO USE A 100 ROUND DRUM to defend myself. I may only need to fire off 1 round….but I still got 99 more in reserve.
  
  Personally, I won’t use a 100 round drum; because chances are, it will jam. But that is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS what I choose to use in my firearms. What the heck do you care what I use in terms of firearms, if you are true to your word that no one is trying to prevent us from defending ourselves? It is my opinion, that the citizenry SHOULD be able to buy fully automatic weapons…you know, the ones that you just keep the trigger pulled to the rear and the rounds just keep coming out. Do you want to know why? The answer is because I should be able to defend myself from a tyrannical government who have more powerful weapons than I do.
  
  BTW…cut your hair and act like a man….not a sheep.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:12pm
  Innocent says, “You do know that the bill is about getting rid of the right for citizens to arm themselves with a Conceal and carry permit right?”
  
  No the bill isn’t about, “getting rid of the right for citizens to arm themselves with a Conceal and carry permit right?” That’s false. The law does not propose to “get rid of” the right to conceal and carry. You know it and I know it.
  
  Now Innocent, you can post a big lie here and, yes, people will believe you.
  
  You know that’s BS but you know, I don’t care. You have to live with the ridiculous hyperboles and outright lies. I don’t.
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:44pm
  SENDTHEMETEORS and KEATONC333:
  
  Let me ask you a question…If I feel the need to take up arms against THIS tyrannical government, would you take up arms to defend this tyrannical government?
  
  Would you be prepared to defend your principles with arms?
  
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- mrsuperpat
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:16pm
  @SendtheMeteors
  It really doesn’t matter what you or 74% of NRA gun owners, or communists posing as liberals think what is reasonable or not with regards to my self defense. The second amendment was written clear enough about infringement. But because we have allowed for it’s infringement it’s like blood in the water for the sharks. These people will say you can’t have high capacity mags now , tomorrow it will be high caliber guns. They will not rest until they have stripped us of any means to resist the complete destruction of the constitution. They will use weak minded limp wristed people such as yourself to accomplish their mission. Too many people have given up on personnel responsibility and have turned to the government to make them comfortable and safe as long as they can continue their 9-5 slave jobs, have their Iphones and suburban houses and entertainment, they don’t care what else is lost. This country would have never been founded with the likes of these people. And just because they can’t be bothered with being an informed citizen, (but by gosh they sure vote) ,I must pay for their laziness and ignorance in the form of a Tyrannical government. The government isn’t going to protect them, in fact it will be the exact opposite in the end. What do you care what weapons I have? None of mine have been used in crime. 2008 The economy almost collapsed according to Congress and the President on record, what exactly do you think that might have looked like?
  
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- Maji
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:33pm
  Sendinmeathead,
  You don’t need a AR15….why because you say so?
  Maybe you or people like you don’t need to tell others what they need!
  
  You don’t need to post opinons in public..I don’t think it’s good for others health!!
  It hurts the children’s “mental health” so libs shouldn’tspeak…. ever!!!
  It’s for the Children!! YOU don’t need too!
  Statistics I”ve seen say so!
  (Thats all you have to do is quote stats, right?? They needn’t be true, right?? or provable!)
  Not saying you’re stupid ( you stupid!)
  
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- sasquatch08
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:39pm
  @meteors:
  
  Is it embarrassing to be as ignorant as you are? (Loaded question!?!?)
  
  “-Requiring background checks for every gun purchase (74% NRA member support);
  -Requiring background checks on gun shop employees (79% NRA member support);
  -Prohibiting individuals on the terrorist watch list from purchasing firearms (71% NRA member support) and so on.”
  
  1)What does ANY of that have to do with your argument about an AR-15? Items 2 and 3 are already law or regulation, so it’s pointless to point that out. Wow, NRA members support existing law! SHOCKER!
  
  2)”fully automatic belt-fed machine guns” are legal for sale and purchase in the United States. Fill out an ATF Form 4 (OMB No. 1140-0014, last update good until 1/31/2014) and send in $200. Entitles you to machine-guns, silencers, short barreled rifles/shotguns and “destructive devices”. Basically the same background check as the instant NICS check, but costs $200 and takes two-six months due to backlog.
  
  Here’s why people don’t trust gun control: First off, historically it’s proven to be a slippery slope that leads to bad things. 2) There are Dems out there talking about full on bans/confiscation of all semi-automatic firearms, including a Walther PPK with a 6+1 capacity. These people can easily tack on a rider or amendment and potentially get what they want.
  
  Finally, SCOTUS has ruled that weapons in common circulation can’t be banned, only “unusual” ones can, so all this is for naught.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:49pm
  ” ‘Meteor’s” last reply is priceless. Not only did he start out with a cheery picked quote of “innocent’s” reply ( a very direct personal statement as a whole), he then continues to narrow the focus and reshape it into his (meteor) own distraction from the point. Welcome to the awakening Meteor, we read that old play book and see through it.
  
  Now if Meteor could really address the point of the young woman? The Congressman obviously has no spine.
  
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- Rampart
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:11am
  Jim Moran is a pimple on the @ss of the Statue of Liberty. He deserves jail time, not Congressional privilege.
  
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- stumpy68
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:15am
  dirigo
  thats why im 20 minutes from the canadian border
  in the last 15 years ive moved 120 miles north 50 miles +/- at a time.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 8:01am
  What a coward….
  
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- kadster01
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 8:58am
  @SendTheMeteors
  
  You are really ignorant of history. The language of new gun control legislation mirrors what has happened throughout history. They do not have to say, verbally, that the end-goal is to ban private ownership of guns. In fact, they’ll likely deny it. (They do.) Those who actually read and understand history know that goal is never stated explicitly, but always becomes a reality. Ask anyone who survived the Third Reich. Ask anyone who survived life in the USSR. If all this was happening under Bush’s administration, I could pretty much guarantee you’d be singing a totally different tune.
  
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- heidihoneighbor
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:10am
  GGood for this young lady. She had a valid question and the liberal dismissed her.
  
  Seems liberals not only believe they can dictate our ability to care for ourselves but they also above answering to them.
  
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- FFTyranny
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:56am
  I totally agree with you Josuha81. I have lived in VA all my life. I was born and raised in Northern VA.
  
  Once I had my first child. N.Va had become a refugee camp for the coward Vietnam people. Then it grew into a refugee camp for the coward Salvadorians, now the illegal Mexicans. I packed up and moved my family south of N. VA away from the Jim Morons and the lib/gays/commies. Thats right I call it as it is, NO PC here! There was no way I was going to raise my kids up in that hole.
  
  We believe in God and the freedoms our founding fathers gave their lives to give us here in this county.
  
  I am so saddened and yet angry at what is happening to my state. Change is coming, but its for the good of man kind not the evil these people want to suppress on us.
  
  Keep fighting and keep the faith brother.
  
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- Thornyrose13
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 10:07am
  With you there Joshua. While “Moron” is from my state, at least he is the rep of northern virginians, many if not most of whom are leeches who have moved in to live off of the cash cow that is D.C.
  
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- GrayPanther
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 10:35am
  You are an uninformed coward. You should know the money that is stolen from taxpayers funds this type of politician and keeps government in power. Get off your back side and work to elect better representation. That is the solution, not whining is a very stupid way.
  
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- Red West
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 2:02pm
  Don’t be too ashamed. At least you’re not from California. Out here we’re the birthplace of retarded political philosophy and failed liberal policies… all held up as a model for the rest of the country by the average moron left-winger. Ironically, we have the same challenge you do. For you it’s Northern VA. For us it’s Coastal California. If you were to separate the state into two, and give Coastal CA San Francisco and Los Angeles, the rest of the state is literally blood red. We’re in the process of moving to Northern California now, and the difference in mindset and lifestyle is staggering. What’s really ironic is that if in fact that split was ever made, the Northern and inland part of the state would hold all of the power. LA is a desert that wouldn’t exist without stealing all of it’s water from Northern California. Central and Northern CA have been decimated by asinine water restrictions imposed by Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein… ALL San Francisco Liberals dictating their leftist crap to the rest of the state. If they were carved off, they’d have no say over the use of our water… and the power structure in CA would look VERY different. One can dream… right?
  
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- jsl55
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 3:43pm
  It could be worse, and is, in inland California. A big earthquake that split L.A. and S.F. into the Pacific would be a horrible event, but I can also see a silver lining to that event. Most of the lib whack jobs would be gone and we could have beach front property.
  
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- petersenonmain
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 6:12pm
  A typical lying liberal, if he is asked a question that he doesn’t have a standard canned answer for ,all he can do is ether call names or not say anything.
  
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- Colorado7972
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 11:58pm
  I guess then you can understand how MOST of us Coloradans feel as well. AS 90% of our state is pro gun, pro conservative and religion etc, but we have to deal with mass Liberal idiots that occupy major cities of Denver and next door Boulder doing their best to Liberalize the rest of our state. If we got rid of Denver/Boulder, our state would be an instant “Texas’ red state again like it always had been before Obama and Libs moved into our state in mass in past 2 decades.
  
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- No_Mas_Pantalones
  Posted on April 29, 2013 at 3:53pm
  Whoa whoa whoa!!! Hold your horses!! Are you folks saying Meteor is a GUY? A MALE?
  Please, someone, anyone, confirm this. All this time (judging by the avatar) I thought Meteor was a cute little liberal girl. I’m not kidding.
  
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Kiba
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:03pm
Lib/dems kinda have a knack for killing the defenseless. Just their style.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:50pm
  Says the guy who I’m sure has been hunting in the past month.
  
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- TeaBagTheTakers
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:19pm
  This is the Real War on Woman. The feckless republicans should tout this loud and often!
  “The Democrats do not want women to defend themselves.”
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:50pm
  Oh Keaton….you really do try so hard, but your arguments just do not stand up. To bring up hunting in this context is completely missing the mark. Hunting “defenseless” animals is certainly not on the same plain in the context of this story regarding the clear evasion of the question regarding a womans right to choose to defend herself with the tools of her choice.
  
  Let me ask you a question Mr. 8 Cylinder Brain that only fires on 3 cylinders….actually, I think you just lost another cylinder, so lets take it to two cylinders. Do you eat meat? Ever enjoy a nice tastey juicy hamburger? Do you have any idea how that hamburger came to be? That hamburger was once a defenseless cow who was herded to the slaughterhouse and killed. No, the slaughterhouse didn’t strap on some horns to give the cow a chance to defend itself, it was outright slaughtered. At least in hunting, the prey (in my case deer) has a chance…it can use conceal and cover….it has the advantage of stealth. The cow on the otherhand, is about as defenseless as you can get.
  
  Face it Mr. Mis-Fire, your liberal friends are out to accomplish an all out ban on guns. You do not respect the 2nd Amendment, you do not respect the Constitution at all. You do not respect an individual’s right to defend themselves.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:52pm
  Lil Keatie why don’t you support your fellow woman’s right of self defense?
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:40pm
  lake.. the fact of the matter is.. her right to defend herself is not being threatened by anyone!
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:41pm
  i will state again… it was a completely irrelevant question, It isn’t serious. It’s just for shock and to try to get him to slip up… The fact of the matter is neither He, nor any other democrat, is pushing a full gun ban or gun confiscation. The women will still have the right to own a gun for self defense. Thus, her question was stupid, ill informed and distracting from real issues. Its fodder for you guys. Thats it. and of course you eat it up!
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:09pm
  Keaton….I hope you enjoy the bread lines….I hope you enjoy lining up for hours in the hopes of scoring some toilet paper. I hope you enjoy being hungry all the time, because this is where our country is heading.
  
  You are one of those people who will follow the lemmings off the cliff. You sir, are doomed to be an oppressed man….you may scratch out survival, but you will not be a free man with our current trajectory.
  
  I on the otherhand, would rather die defending my freedom, then to live as a slave. Mark my words my fine young friend. I pity you, and your family. For you are doomed to a dismal existance.
  
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- kadster01
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 9:08am
  @Keatonc333
  “the fact of the matter is.. her right to defend herself is not being threatened by anyone!”
  
  Have you been keeping up with the news at all?! A hot issue right now is women not being allowed to carry a gun on college campuses. So yes, if that doesn’t greatly diminish a woman’s ability to fend off an attacker, I don’t know what would! I’ll say the same thing to you I said to Metoerite. If Bush was still president, you’d either be saying the exact opposite of the crap you’re spewing or not say anything at all.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:01pm
  Tea the takers, that’s not true Democrats never said they didn’t want women to defend themselves .
  What the democrats are saying is they would rather see women raped than exercise their second amendment rights. That is 100% fact. They would rather seeing rapist raping than women shooting.
  And the NRA and actual American party needs to spread that 100% factual message coast to coast.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 1:04pm
  Lil Keatie then you should understand well that every one of your posts have also been irrelevant. See how simple that is.
  
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elosogrande
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:57pm
The second Amendment was written to provide Americans with a means to protect themselves and their country from the possiblity of a tyrantical government in the future. That is the reason why it is a part of our Constitution. Even John F. Kennedy admitted that there would alway be the possibility of such a government coming to power in America.

Mr. Moran is typical of the type of person who would move our government in such a direction. Don’t tell me I’m wrong, because any honest man with the good of the country in his heart, would have had “what it takes” to answer the question. The only other reason he might have for not answering her question is that he is a coward. We don’t need any more testosterone-free men in politics. We already have more than our share.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:50pm
  Another reason he might not have answered the question, other than him being a tyrant or coward, is that it was a completely irrelevant question, It isn’t serious it’s just for shock and to try to get him to slip up… The fact of the matter is He, nor any other democrat, is pushing a full gun ban or gun confiscation. The women will still have the right to own a gun for self defense. Thus, her question was stupid, ill informed and distracting from real issues. Its fodder for you guys. Thats it.
- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:09pm
  Elosogrande,
  
  But the Constitution in no way empowers individuals to simply disregard the law and rebel when they disagree with the government–such a provision would render the Constitution itself null and void whenever it proved inconvenient. That’s why levying war against the United States is considered treason in the Constitution.
  
  The militias were raised, regulated and commanded by state and local governments, not by hillbillies who are just tired of paying taxes.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:38pm
  Ah, so government troops fought the revolution for us. Wow. Why didn’t they teach me that in history class?
  
  The Second Amendment is chiefly for the protection of citizens against a tyrannical government, but you are saying that it applies only to the government. So, to keep our Rights and Liberties, we must rely on the government to protect us from the government?
  
  Your logic is dizzying.
  
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- Twobyfour
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:45pm
  Pencilman, incorrect.YYou need to look at the amendment in the context of time it was written and at the meaning it has axccording to the Framers.
  
  In that case:
  
  1. Militia is understood as a self-organizing citizen entity
  2. Well regulated is understood as well equipped and trained, at par with any government created amed entities
  
  It is funny that you need a Canuck to tell you that.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:57pm
  Twobyfour,
  
  The militia was not “self-organized.” Here is what the Constitution says about the militias:
  
  “Section 8: Powers of Congress
  “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
  To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”
  
  How is that for context?
  
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- MisterSarcastic
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:53am
  Publius,
  Are you a pinky finger wine drinker who loves paying taxes?
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 10:15am
  No sir,
  I’m a beer drinker and I don’t enjoy paying taxes, but I do consider it my patriotic duty to pay my share and support my country and my fellow Americans. I firmly believe that if you’re are someone who waves a flag and screams your head off on the 4th of July, but won’t pay a little bit more in taxes to provide health care to your fellow citizens, then you are what Thomas Paine called a “sunshine patriot.”
  
  A liberal is someone who cares as much for his fellow citizens as a conservative does for empty symbols and his own bank account.
  
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- OIF3survivor
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:15pm
  You are sooooo right there Publius:
  
  it DOES give congress the right to call out the Militia. What your incomplete picture fails to explain however is that it is speaking of the ‘Select Corps’ not the general militia. If you actually read the debates you would be well aware that if those constructing the constitution, or Bill of Rights intended for a ‘select corps’ to be the primary force to ‘guarantee liberty’ (their intended meaning consistently) it is the greatest secret in Revolutionary/Federalist Era history. Perhaps read what the framers thought of the danger of standing armies and select corps while debating the inclusion of the Bill of Rights before spouting such silliness.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:20pm
  Pencilneck, what is your fair share? Who are your betters that set fair? By beer, do you mean boxed wine?
  
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- OIF3survivor
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 2:49pm
  Perspective you write…hmmm. Lets look at some court decisions from the first two-three generations following adoption of the Bill of Rights to get that perspective on how this right was interpreted at that time.
  
  Nunn v State (Georgia Supreme Court, 1846) decided “no legislative body in the Union could deny citizens the privilege of being armed to defend self and country, and that colonial ancestors had possessed this right which ‘is one of the fundamental principles of , upon which rests the great fabric of civil liberty.’”
  And “‘We do not believe that, because the people withheld this arbitrary power of disfranchisement from Congress, they ever intended to confer it on the local legislatures. This right is too dear to be confided to a republican legislature.”‘
  
  Cockrum v State (Texas Supreme Court, 1859) likewise decided that the “object of the Second Amendment was to ensure that ‘the people cannot be effectually oppressed and enslaved, who are not first disarmed.”‘
  
  I can list many, many more if you care to continue your silly argument about the states being given the power to “raise, regulate and command” the general militias and not the ‘select corps’. Like I wrote earlier, if anyone believed at the time that the Bill of Rights were being debated that the Second Amendment would protect a collective right of the individual States (read oxymoron) then it was the greatest secret in their generation as well as those who interpreted legally for ge
  
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termyt
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:56pm
“there are no plans to go after handguns, although I do support legislation that would limit the purchase of handguns to no more than one a month, which seems to be reasonable,”

There are no plans to go after handguns, well we do have plans, but they are reasonable, so don’t worry.

Oh, and most people only go to church once a week. Why do you need to go more often if you aren’t a radical? We aren’t going after religion, but you can only go once per week, which seems to be reasonable.

And jury trials are expensive and often reach the wrong conclusion. We are going to limit jury trials to once every-other arrest, which seems to be reasonable.

Some people don’t have lives worth living. Their standard of living is almost zero. We are not going to revoke your right to life, but those with no quality of life will be released, which seems to be reasonable.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:18pm
  You lost the argument the second you tried to compare going to church to buying a gun.
- go2gym
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:50pm
  Only because that’s the one you chose so you didn’t have to actually reply with anything of substance, I guess.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:40pm
  Both are “inalienable” rights, Keaton. Do you need a dictionary?
  
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- Devildog7777
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 8:04pm
  SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Period
  
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- DoOrDie
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 11:11pm
  When a liberal is made to look like a fool, like Moran, the liberal sheep say it was a loaded question, but when a liberal does the same to a conservative, they are geniuses. Explain that will you?
  
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jessieH
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:53pm
Virginia, you think maybe it’s time to “talk” to your Representative?

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THX-1138
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:48pm
Irony: Having your last name (nearly) mirror your intellectual capacity.

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BlackCrow
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:45pm
The only thing these Anti-Constitution Communist Democrats are going to understand is when the NRA shows up at the voting booth en mass and throws them out on the street. Even then three quarters of them will still be in denial.

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TRSFrancisco
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:44pm
I absolutely LOVE these women standing up for the right to defend themselves! And none of these politicians know how to handle it, or answer the questions! She presented that question in a brilliant way as well by framing it in the “women’s right to choose,” every liberal’s FAVORITE go to talking point. I want to see more and more of this everyday…they’ll eventually just stop doing townhalls, like they did with healthcare. And to that second guy, we’re paranoid? You guys are stockpiling military grade equipment and piles of ammo http://wp.me/p30zk7-bD and WE’RE PARANOID? Ugh. Sanity, please, can I haz?

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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:40pm
How to deal with stupid questions about gun control and maintain the thrill of removing civil rights?

1. Alzheimers erased that memory block, next question?

2. If we told you, you would have to vote us out of office, next question?

3. I hate women, next question?

4. Because we don’t care if you can’t protect youself, next question?

5. I don’t know the answer to that?

In other words, by avoiding real answers, people read between the lines, its called common sense, and they know when politicians do not answer questions, or are not honest about an issue?

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ibanrfknm
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:36pm
Get organized and vote him out!

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KevINtampa
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:35pm
It’s always the same with these guys.

I don’t believe in gun bans, but a handgun a month is something we can start. In 5 years we can make it 1 handgun a year. In 10 years we can say a person is only allowed 1 gun. In 15 years, no gun at all. This is the very definition of a Progressive gun grab. Warn your children and grand children. Make sure they understand this is how the goverment operates.

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- THX-1138
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:49pm
  This government won’t be around that long.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:40pm
  I tend to agree with THX-1138, but we have to fight the good fight and after a while one kind of gets into it.
  
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:24pm
The Answer is: because Progressive Liberalism is a Religion which does not adhere to reason or logic.

It’s fundamental tenants are:

1. Murdering human babies = good.
2. Executing criminals = bad.
3. 50 million human babies slaughtered for convenience = good
4. Hunting animals for food = bad.
5. Smoking pot = good.
6. Smoking a cigar = bad.
7. Muhammed, Buddha, Krishna = good
8. Jesus = bad.
9. Paganism = good
10. Biblical morality = bad.
11. Becoming a succesful & wealthy business person = bad
12. Living on social programs = good.
13. Hedonism = good
14. Righteous living & ethical standards = bad
15. State Control of your food, your children, your every choice = good
16. Individual Liberty = bad.

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- Ironmaan
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:29pm
  I agree 100%. But to force this crap down our throats, they MUST disarm us. Check out Anonymous’ response to gun control. http://guerillatics.com/?p=40103
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:34pm
  You know, TH30PH1LUS, that describing the belief system of trolls will be considered as an ad hominem attack by them.
  
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- Thehulk
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:40pm
  You (TH30PH1LUS) Sir are sooo right!
  
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- Johnny Cocheroo
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:42pm
  Some possibly good news out of Michigan (off topic)
  
  Michigan’s Senate seat is now open. Carl Levin (D) will not be seeking re-election.
  - Michigan voted in a republican governor (blocked a referendum)
  - voted for Obama
  - voted in right to work
  - economy is looking better
  
  I think name recognition had a lot to do with Levin winning. So, lets see what happens in Michigan.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:45pm
  TH30PH1LUS dont stop at 16
  
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- Warriorswife
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:53pm
  Exactly.
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:10pm
  Yes the world and especially our once strong Republic is upside down.
  You can thank Obama for his 21st century slavery – The Democratic plantation.
  
  In previous centuries – the law of survival of the fittest was working to thin the ranks of lazy idiots.
  That is no longer the case. With high productivity and the great society and social “safety nets” for the weaker of us. We have now tipped to 51% being on the socialist plantation.
  What is needed is a good old fashion depression that will cleanse us of the weak and stupid Demedopes – most of whom could not change a light bulb or get off their fat A$$ to do so.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:19pm
  jakartaman
  
  The weakest does not mean genetic anymore. There are stories of parents putting pressure on their kids to not learn how to read. An illiterate child can be classified as disabled & the parents can collect SSI on the kids’ behalf.
  
  Human trafficking is not solely related moving around people like livestock for the sex trade. Some of it is about taking advantage of relatives for your financial gain & their diminishment.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:27pm
  Profiting From a Child’s Illiteracy
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/opinion/sunday/kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html?pagewanted=all
  
  Viral Memes of the Left
  
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- hi
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:27pm
  17 racism against blacks-bad
  18 racism against whites-good
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:42pm
  Damn straight TH30PH1LUS!
  
  You can judge a tree by it’s fruit.
  
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- rbolt
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:03pm
  TH30PH1LUS, You can call progressive liberalism a religion, I prefer to call it a mental disease. Either way, they are total losers.
  
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Bonnieblue2A
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:21pm
Lest we forget, Rep. Jim Moran (d-VA) was a keynote speaker for the terrorist tied Islamic organization CAIR. Perhaps that is one of the reasons he does not see women as “worthy” under Shariah of defending themselves?

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/10/18/democrat-congressman-jim-moran-of-virginia-was-keynote-speaker-at-fundraiser-for-terrorist-front-group-cair/

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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:31pm
  Good post.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:42pm
  wow good post
  
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logmeout
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:20pm
One handgun per month? OMG! That just shows how illogical this control freak is. Let’s see, just this year alone I could buy 12 handguns. Count’m…. 12. I’ll put 2 on the outside of each ankle, 2 on the inside of each ankle, one on each hip, one down the front of my pants, one down the back, one on each side of my chest, and that’s 8. I need four more good hiding spots. When I buy 12 more the next year I’ll have to start hiding them in known and unknown crevasses. The problem is, I can only shoot one at a time well. It’s a lot easier to carry 12 magazines. What a moron. Someone please throw water on this guy’s face so he wakes up from his Progressive hypnosis.

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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:34pm
  Just in the last year I have purchased 10…..yeah, the logic is not there. I’m not out to do a Sandy Hook….I am just arming myself so that there is a weapon in easy reach regardless of the situation. And yes, I do own an SSAR-15 Slide Stock. So I can unload 30 rounds in my AR-15 in less then 3 seconds. It is not all that accurate, I would rather have a true fully automatic weapon that does not rely on “bump fire” techniques….
  
  No, the LEFT wants full disarmament, that is so plain to see. But KEATONC333(666), and SENDTHEMETEORS are blind to the real intent (if I give them the benefit of the doubt that they are just dumb). A HOT Civil War will break out, but I am convinced that a COLD Civil War has already broken out.
  
  Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves….
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlOxiwGLAkY
  
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:19pm
What a weasel. It’s a simple question that calls for an assertive answer. YES or NO! Instead he refers to “people’s paranoia”. I will beat this fool’s azzs if he ever encroaches my space. 10:1 he has a bodyguard with a gun, or is carrying himself.

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Whovian
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:19pm
So much for representational democracy. Like the town hall meetings over Obamacare, the folks said they didn’t want it, the Dems ignored them. The folks got angry and demanded that the bill not pass, the Dems ignored them. Now here we are agaon with the gun debate. The folks have spoke and again the Dems are ignoring us. At what point do we stop being polite. Don’t wait until election day, start recalling these bums.

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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:17pm
Moran must be ENCINOM’s uncle. They sound the same.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:00pm
  Rep Moran is available. And he really likes women. So maybe encinMom wil give him a ring!
  
  “Moran has been married three times. His second wife, Mary Howard Moran, filed for divorce in 1999, one day after an argument at the couple’s Alexandria home which resulted in
  
  a visit by the police.
  
  The Congressman provided his own divorce papers a few months later, and in 2003 the couple officially separated. He remarried in 2004 to real estate developer LuAnn Bennett. In December 2010, Moran and Bennett announced they were separating”
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Moran
  
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BehindBlueEyes
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:16pm
I can almost read this commie’s mind.

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tajloc
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:12pm
This says it all.
Well done young lady and well done Blaze.
Smokin’

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Walkabout
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:09pm
Moran was as thick as thieves with Murtha, when Murtha was alive. Moran has been displayed prominently in the Wall Street Journal..
There is the airport built with government money that is basically a ghost town, but make sit very convenient for Moran to go back & forth.

MORAN made sure he was part of the military industrial complex. If you want to start cutting the military start with contractors linked to Moran.

I warn you to put in ear plugs 1st, when you cancel the contracts, because Moran will scream like stuck pig.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:57pm
  Murtha did not pass this earmark by himself. Moran was there. If Murtha was corrupt, then so was & so is Moran
  
  “Remote Murtha airport lands big bucks from Washington”
  
  http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-23/politics/murtha.airport_1_stimulus-funds-faa-spokeswoman-laura-brown-airport?_s=PM:POLITICS
  
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showmerancher
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:08pm
Democrats Pledge to Punish the Innocent for the Sins of the Guilty

Liberals will usurp the rights and freedoms of ALL law-abiding citizens as punishment for the sins of criminals. It sounds to me that these are the disciples of the Anti-Christ; punish all of the innocent rather than to let one criminal go free…

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- woodyee
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Democrats Pledge to Punish the Innocent for the Sins of the Guilty
  
  Well said – they do it all the time; it’s a cowardly trait.
  
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RLTW
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:08pm
Who are the trained seals applauding anything this communist has to say?

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- Fubared
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:55pm
  Look below. Pencil neck at it again.
  
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PubliusPencilman
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:07pm
The real question is: why aren’t Conservatives “pro-life” when it comes to guns?

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- Sargeking
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:14pm
  That’s because when an embryo eventually grows into an East side gorilla and becomes a serial killer, it takes a good guy with a gun to deal with a bad guy; with a gun.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:16pm
  We are.
  
  We are pro-innocent-life. We are anti-guilty life of those that will re-offend or have committed such serious offenses that we can no longer safely rub shoulder with them or countenance them
  
  Whatever I said, just reverse it & that describes you, Publius.
  
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- Bonnieblue2A
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:16pm
  We are. Self-defense is a basic human right.Conservatives (not RINOS) and libertarians largely believe law abiding citizens should be able to defend their own lives and that of their children from violent felons seeking to use immenent lethal force against them.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:19pm
  PUBLIUSPENCILNECK, We are pro life when it comes to self protection. That is pro life for the potential victim. What the hell do you call victims killed at the hands of criminals? Late term abortions?
  
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- spirited
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:20pm
  Lead in the head from that pencil in the ear –eh?
  
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- Rowgue
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:22pm
  They are. They are for innocent victims being able to protect their own lives. I’d say nice try for trying to turn somebodies logic back on them, but it really wasn’t even a good try. What you said doesn’t even make sense. You were just trying to throw out a catchy one liner you thought was witty.
  
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- MicForever
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:25pm
  We are consistent. We want to protect the innocent. The unborn have committed no crime and seek to hurt no one. Guns in the hands of the law abiding citizen’s protects them and their property from criminals and out of control governments.
  
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- mrunner
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:25pm
  We are- pro protecting our lives and the lives of those we love against the low life elements who disregard life. Just so happens many of those who disregard life and freedom are also “progressives”.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:28pm
  PENCILNECK…you’re an idiot at the best times but today you’ve mined new depths to your idiocy…I hardly thought it was possible but you worked diligently in the depths of your ignorance to get there.
  
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- TexasCommonSense
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:30pm
  We conservatives view guns as defensive tools. A tool used to defend innocent life. Defending innocent life is as “Pro-life” as you can get.
  
  There’s no need for you to fear guns in the hands of good people.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:30pm
  PUBLIUS, Just another pencil neck geek.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkB_CFi9row
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:51pm
  We’re pro-innocent life. Liberals are not innocent. You get what’s coming to you. I can’t wait, can you?
  
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- nesmond
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:51pm
  Abortion murders 3,500 children per day. If guns did that much damage, even the staunchest gun rights advocate would would question the second amendment. Why is killing babies okay with you turds and self-defense a bad thing? I know. Because turds want to be the ones who say who lives or who dies. They are are reaching out to the ignorant with misinformation,(Feinstein’s claim about human hunting being legal), to coerce these nincompoops that gun owners are an evil lot, whose ultimate goal is to cleanse the earth of minorities. Progressivisms’ goal is Socialism. Socialisms’ goal is Communism. If only the nincompoops who vote Democrat knew this, there would be no Democrats.
  
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- RLTW
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:43pm
  The past three mass shootings conducted by crazy liberal freaks off their meds should give you a hint to your stupid FRaking question.
  
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- DZ-015
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 5:47pm
  Pencilstub: We are pro life sentences for those using guns in crimes which cause grievous bodily harm but no loss of life.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:04pm
  Haha! Yes. Pro-innocent life, as long as it’s Conservatives who get to determine who deserves life and who does not! And by the way, top-notch childish name-calling! Stay classy my friends!
  
  You’ll celebrate the death of a teenager who makes a bad choice and gets blown away by some nut who felt threatened. Most of the “self-defense” gun stories on The Blaze involve a victim shooting a thief in the back as they walk away. I’m sorry, but you can’t call yourself pro-life and then claim that someone’s life is forfeit because they tried to take someone else’s property.
  
  You all pretend to be pro-life, but you’re really just pro-property.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 6:39pm
  LOL..”teenager who made a bad choice”? You liberal dolts do this kind of thing a lot…make something ugly as benign and non-malicious as you possibly can in order to make anything happening to “the teenager” a worse act than the crime. This is tailored to make the defender of the second amendment appear callous or even unstable..certainly in your attempt here..to appear hypocritical.
  
  So when someone breaks into a family home and a crime is prevented, it was the callous shooting of a “teenager who made the wrong choice”? Really now?
  
  How many of those “shot in the back” stories ended in the death of the criminal PENCILNECK?
  You lefties do that a lot. Like KRETIN333 the other day…he demanded stories where an AR15 was used to prevent a crime because a handgun would suffice in his eyes. I offered him 4 examples. He tried to devalue each one until he could no longer ignore his own ignorance and he ran away.
  
  So in your twisted little world…the desire to protect oneself and one’s family from a serious crime being committed on them is “pro-property”? So when an armed intruder enters your home and you defend yourself that’s “prop-property” is it? So what’s the alternative? Stop and interview the intruder to determine his intentions then if they dont’ entail any voilence being inflicted on you or your family you should let him do as he pleases? Allow the crime to take place? What’s that? “Pro -Teenager who made the wrong choice”?
  
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- OccamsSword
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 9:06pm
  Sharpen your pencil pud…
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 10:08pm
  AvengerK,
  
  There are undoubtedly times in which guns have been used for defense against intruders, but these comparatively rare occasions would not be prevented by stricter gun control measures and greater regulation.
  
  So called “defenders of the second amendment” are responsible for the proliferation of deadly weapons in this country and preventing any efforts to control that spread, even as the actual proportion of gun users is declining. Anyone who is “pro life” would be willing to consider commonsense regulations and controls that would save lives. plain and simple.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on March 13, 2013 at 8:50am
  PUBLIUSPENCIDICK! You just got ripped on that stupid little post, and you come back with that same old worn out garbage? LAME!
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:07pm
Make them squirm and fear the people once again.

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- gyro
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:24pm
  this and watch them lie
  
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- TexasCommonSense
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:47pm
  That’s why they’re going after out guns, so they can fear us less.
  
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Sargeking
Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:07pm
Evasive? Yes indeed he is is. Coward? Yep. He’s that as well!

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- spirited
  Posted on March 12, 2013 at 4:22pm
  Blantly dismissive; –Next!
  
  “Yes WE Can”?
  >Stick around Moron; patience is the real virtue.
  
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