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MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Claims Jesus Didn’t Preach ‘Fire and Brimstone’ — But Is This True?

Mar. 14, 2013 2:49pm Billy Hallowell

Earlier this week, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews took to the airwaves to discuss faith and religion. The center of discussion was the host’s views on the Christian faith and Jesus’ teaching. In addition to unfavorable comments about Pope Benedict XVI, he also issued some curious proclamations about Jesus’ teachings.

In commenting about the pope emeritus, the liberal host said he’s never been a fan of Benedict, adding, ”I don’t think he matters.”

As for the Christian faith more generally, Matthews separated its teachings from those embraced by other religious systems, noting that compassion and care for the poor distinguish it.

“What separates Christianity from all the other religions? It’s compassion. It’s looking out for the little people,” he said. “Mary Magdalene is one of my favorite figures from the New testament. She’s a prostitute and Jesus loved her. He was a buddy of hers.”

MSNBCs Chris Matthews Claims Jesus Didnt Preach Fire and Brimstone But Is This True?

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There is debate, however, surrounding this characterization of Magdalene as a prostitute — one that was advanced during the Christianity’s early years. Also, some would contend that what separates the Christian faith from other religions is its inclusion of a savior — God’s son — who perished to save the sins of humanity.

But Matthews wasn’t done there.

“If you look at the Bible, who’s he curing and who’s he taking care of, Jesus — he’s going after the people who are blind and crippled and outcast for sexual misbehavior, if you will,” Matthews continues. “He’s looking out for those people. He’s not preaching fire and brimstone.”

As Townhall notes, though, Jesus didn’t just roam about healing the afflicted. While this was a major role as presented in the Bible, he also spoke about redemption and what was needed for one to reach heaven (elements some would consider “fire and brimstone”). Consider John 3:3, when he told Nicodemus, a religious leader, that one must be “born again” in order to be with the Lord after death.

Here’s how verses 3-5 read (as per Bible Gateway):

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.^[a]”

⁴“How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

⁵Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. ⁶Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit^[b] gives birth to spirit. ⁷You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You^[c] must be born again.’ ⁸The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”^[d]

Of course, that’s only one example. While it’s true that the tactics Jesus used were not “fire and brimstone” in a more vicious sense, he surely preached about heaven and hell and what was expected of humanity.

Watch Matthews’ words below:

What do you think? Was the host incorrect in his statements? Let us know in the comments section.

(H/T: Townhall)

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Comments (132)

lessoneleg
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:34pm
As hard as secular people like Chris Matthews tries to imprint his revisionist biblical understandings. Jesus wasn’t here to “fire & brimstone” the human people’s. his role was conciliator to bridge Mankind and God’s place.
Jesus was also very specific of Man and sin. Yes he forgave many recorded people of blindness or illness of health. But he also didn’t revise biblical teachings of what man was in the expectations of God. He didn’t say, a man could participate with another man the same as a man was with his wife. He didn’t say a man could shack up and play act a marriage, just because they loved each other.
Chris Matthews has a lot of bunk coming out between his teeth. He clearly has no authority to comment about Christianity or revise the Bible to fit his agenda.

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- WhiteFang
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:07pm
  What Jesus said is recorded in the Holy Scriptures, in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and in Revelation.
  We do not need Chris Matthews to tell us what he said, we can read it for ourselves.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 5:20pm
  Is this true? Just ask our village atheists, they tout this fact like it’s kryptonite to us.
  
  And then you got Moderationisbest
  
  who likes to post
  
  like this
  
  the windbag
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 6:07pm
  What would Jesus have said about a man who gets a “tingle” up his leg at the sight of one of the ruling elite?
  
  I think that Jesus may have grabbed a whip and driven Chrissy out of the temple!
  
  “Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- Lucy Larue
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 6:58pm
  LESSONELEG
  To excuse the idiocy of Chris Matthews, and the damage he does, by calling him secular, is very kind of you. It is.
  Chris Matthews is truly a monster abetting the destruction of the greatest nation of the world.
  
  Why DOES he espouse his propaganda every night on MSNBC is the bigger question. WHY?!
  
  It may be an extreme analogy but…,Hitler did not rise to power overnight. It took a long time for him to take office and destroy Germany. He had enablers.
  
  Chris Mathews is an enabler of this ideologic,socialist,incompetent administration.
  
  WHY?! Is it because he truly believes the BU*#SH%T…,or filthy MSNBC lucre?
  
  “We have met the enemy and HE is us”. POGO
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 7:26pm
  and this is a warning to Bill O’Reilly too: Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, came to earth to save sinners and to DIE for our sins. He came to DIE. No one “killed Him”. His act of LOVE was the greatest there has ever been or would ever be. He endured the insults, the physical beatings, the betrayals, the worst that we silly human beings can toss out, and then the EVIL from that fallen Angel Satan who will be dealt with. O’Reilly is going to write a book about “who Killed Jesus” – dude. the answer is JESUS. He’ll make millions off of this book but he’d better have his theology straight and truthfully told. Pity him if he doesn’t.
  As far as MATTHEWS…. YO! Pathetic one!!! You don’t have to yell to cut people to the quick, you are too stupid to know when you’ve been insulted, I realize that…but PITY the FOOL who tries to rewrite or in ANY way redo God’s Message to His Created (us) . As the old saying goes (was about HST) Jesus told us the truth and it sounds like HELL FIRE to these messed up people like Matthews.
  Again: If you are reading this and you don’t know “who” to believe…just go somewhere quiet, turn off the TV or get away from the COMPUTER and just ask JESUS… “Please tell me who you are, I want to know You” there is not a finer thing you can do for your life than that. :)
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 8:04pm
  He did preach fire and brimstone. He also said the law of the Old Testament was to be followed. Just because people don’t follow the most ridiculous parts of the Bible or focus on them doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Nobody follows the Bible to a T, because it would be illegal and there are so many contradictory things it would be impossible.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:35am
  @THE_CABRITO_GOAT
  
  Apparently I made an impression on you. Thankfully, I never think twice about you. You do remind me of some other fool on here who use to follow me around article to article asking nonsensical questions and making idiotic remarks towards me. It was never anything substantial mind you, just psychotic ramblings.
  
  My questions would be to Chris Matthews, “who cares what Jesus is reported to have said?” Jesus was a man, all men are fallible and their words open to critique.
  
  The Bible is book, just like every other book. It holds no added weight for me in a discussion. If I make a point that I think is valid, and some simple minded religious nut starts quoting scripture, I shrug it off as if they were reading from a children’s book….which is what I equate the Bible to. Fairy tales, imaginary friends, myth, it’s all mindless dribble to me.
  
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- TRUTHandFREEDOM
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:15am
  Jesus lead by example. He helped the needy and tended to the sick, but he did not use government or redistribution of wealth to do it. Thou shall not steal or covet thy neighbor’s goods. That leaves YOU! You, the individual are the one taught by Jesus AND by the old Testament to follow God and be responsible for yourself.
  
  YOUR actions are YOURS.
  
  YOUR results are YOURS.
  
  Help others by effort and money if possible. Do not be greedy. This is for you, the individual. Do not steal or covet from anyone, not if they are greedy, rich or poor, generous on their own, rich or poor …. DON’T. Just Don’t.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 7:53am
  Exactly and Jesus forgave the prostitute and said GO and sin no more. Jesus didn’t say keep on hookin it’s cool. Mathews and his ilk somehow thinks that forgiveness of a sin is the same as acceptance of the sin. It’s not.
  
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- Duke One
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:50pm
  Chris Matthew is an idiot ! Jesus said, “Woman, where are they ? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared.”Go now and leave your life of sin.” John 8:10-11
  
  Love the sinner. Hate the sin.
  
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- deskjockey
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:09pm
  And… Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. So Chris Matthews (as per the norm) has everything bass ackwards.
  
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:33pm
Little Crissy Mathews is like most liberals. He knows nothing of Jesus or the Bible and figures no one else does either so he can wing-it when speaking of Jesus. Crissy wants God to be a sissy like him and pretend to love but never judge. Crissy wants to believe there is no fire and brimstone because he will eventually be burning.

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- pgc1
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:52pm
  What a waste! As soon as I saw Chris Matthews I tuned out.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:23pm
  Chrissy Tingles- like all liberals- believes Jesus was in the classwarfare business (at least those liberals that don’t utterly despise Jesus and Christians).
  
  Chrissy has never read the part of the new testament where Jesus says we have to seek out the non-believers because they are the ones that need saving, not the believer. He’s not “looking out for those people”…he’s trying to reach them so that they can come to God through him. For instance..the apostle Matthew was a tax collector..one of the “one percent”. Madgalene became a “buddy of his” because she STOPPED being an adultress. She saw Jesus as the son of God and in one of the most profound events in the bible..she was the first to see the resurrected Jesus. In Jewish culture of the time a woman’s testimony was not of any worth. This is one of the most compelling pieces of evidence that the new testament is not a fabrication but an outline of events to teach the word of Jesus. Why would a Jew of the time use a woman to give testimony if her testimony is worthless? Even the disciples didn’t believe her.
  
  Chrissy also doesn’t understand that (as pointed out by GONZO and others here) Jesus said it’s not enough to forgive the sin, the sinner must repent and “sin no more” for any of this to have meaning and value.
  
  Chrissy just doesn’t understand.
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:30pm
  Chrissy?? He will soon be burning?? Yeah, you know 1/2 a thing about Christianity — not.
  
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- demsrtraitors
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:13am
  I’m hoping that tingle of his leg is a sign of a stroke.
  
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AxelPhantom
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:27pm
The part that Chris seems to have forgotten is that Jesus would also say “Go and sin no more.”

He didn’t say “Yeah, I forgive you even if you don’t agree with Me that what you are doing should be a sin so you just keep on doing what you were doing I’ll forgive you”. Chris seems to have missed the lesson on Repentance as a pre-curser of Forgiveness.

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- wowjustwow
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:39pm
  Jesus forgives always if one is sorry. Even if they fall into sin (even the same sin) again and again. He doesn’t give up on us.
  
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Diane TX
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:25pm
Gee Blaze, it’s too hard for me to read the rest of the story when the first sentence

“Earlier this week, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews took to the airwaves to discuss faith and religion.”

puts me into a state of uncontrollable laughter!

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- SREGN
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:32pm
  While Chrissie The Tingler might be fairly familiar with prostitutes, his words prove his unfamiliarity with the Bible.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:23pm
Chrissy had a lot more nicer things to say about his true hero… Obama.

You know… the perfect husband, perfect father, perfect this and perfect that.

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MangoT21
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:22pm
For sure at one point it was water and MILLstone…something we all need to be concious of.

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Too_Far_Gone
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:22pm
Jus sayin’

http://theseason.yolasite.com/

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qpwillie
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:21pm
Yahshua used the analogy of the garbage dump outside of Jerusalem to illustrate what will happen to people who refuse to obey Yahweh’s commands. They name of the location of the garbage dump was Gehenna (The valley of the son of Hinnom). They used sulfur (brimstone) to throw on the fires to make sure the garbage burned completely away to ashes.

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- Greenwood
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:49pm
  @QPW….You are correct, Hell = (Hebrew) “Sheol” (Greek) “Hades” really only means the common grave of mankind.
  “Gehenna” is also sometimes translated as hell in some bibles. This is the Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship, including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was used as an incinerator for the filth of Jerusalem. Bodies of dead animals and executed criminals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur, or brimstone, was added to assist the burning. The criminals who were considered undeserving of burial in a memorial tomb, were thrown into Gehenna.
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:37pm
  To Greenwood – very interesting. Would you mind telling me where I can read about that. I am truly curious. Thank you.
  
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- Greenwood
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 5:36pm
  @WOW…………….http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001642
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 10:10pm
  Greenwood — thank you. I will check it out!
  
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Watcher1952
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:19pm
Chris Mathews is the one that doens’t matter……only in his own mind does he matter……what a dill weed

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- MDECKER
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:28pm
  Matthews confusion stems from reading penthouse letters rather than the Bible.
  
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Voter713
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:18pm
Pretty much all of Matthew 5 (WORD OF GOD – not man) trumps EVERYTHING this article says as well as Chris M:
For ex:
Christ Fulfills the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.”

Reg Chris Matthews in general:
“2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.”

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shamar
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:14pm
Where in KJV Bible is it written, Mary Magdalene was a prostitute?

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- sabate
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:37pm
  Ah, right. God is a 17th-century Englishman.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:50pm
  Sabate,
  
  Where in the Holy Scriptures (Bible) is it written, Mary Magdalene was a prostitute?
- Just_Us2
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:06pm
  Where does the bible say Adam and Eve ate an apple? Noah took just two of every animal on the ark? Jonah was swallowed by a whale? There are a lot of things people who don’t read the bible for themselves tend to believe.
- sabate
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:16pm
  It’s common knowledge…Mary Magdalene was Jesus’ mistress.
- Locked
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:18pm
  Nowhere, in any translation of the Bible, is Mary Magdalene called a prostitute (or former prostitute). She is listed in Luke as a woman who had been possessed by seven demons; I’ve heard that in the Roman Catholic tradition these demons are said to represent the seven deadly sins, one of which is lust.
  
  Many poor translations (or preachers) conflate Mary Magdalene with several other Marys, or with the woman taken in adultery (who is nameless), or the sinner (also nameless) who washes Christ’s feet with her ****. None of these is accurate.
  
  Long story short, anyone who thinks Mary Magdalene was a prostitute has not read the Bible.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:24pm
  @Sabate
  
  “It’s common knowledge…Mary Magdalene was Jesus’ mistress.”
  
  And hundreds of years ago it was common knowledge that people’s temperaments and health were controlled by the four humours, and you needed to bleed them with leeches to improve their health.
  
  Common knowledge is often not right. It helps to actually read the Bible and see for yourself.
- wowjustwow
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:35pm
  Catholics had been taught that for years (that she was a prostitute). It is no longer supported. I guess Chris Matthews doesn’t know that. Many Christians believe she could have been Jesus’ wife. One day we will all find out if that is true or not.
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:46pm
  Where in the Holy Scriptures (Bible) is it written that Jesus was married?
  
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am123
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:14pm
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

—Mark 9:43-48

“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

—Matthew 10:28

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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 10:20pm
  That was in the walking dead, believe it or not. A guy was bit by a zombie in the hand, and had to cut it off.
  
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Jimmy Stewart
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:13pm
The man born blind, the lame man, Lazarus raised from the dead….”Jesus healed those who had some kind of sexual issue” according to Chris Matthews? He has no idea what he is talking about. Jesus condemned the cities of Bethsaida, Capernaum and Chorazin because of their unbelief. Jesus said that if Sodom & Gomorrah had seen Jesus miracles that even they would of repented. I think you could classify that very clearly as confrontational and to repent of sin.

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shorelineliz
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:12pm
And in other news:

Mary Magdalene bitch slapped Chris Matthews in his sleep last night for calling her “one of the little people” and “poor.” After the slap Chris was heard to have said, “Why Mary? Why? I defended you on my show today?” To which Mary replied, “Listen you ******. I was a big star in my town okay? I was never “little” you twit! And poor? I had money. Lots of it. I was the town prostitute or don’t you read the Bible you moron? I had plenty of money, camels, servants, clothes, wine, jewels and whatever else I wanted.” NEVER call me “little” or “poor” again okay or I will so bitch slap you again!”

Chris Matthews Show tomorrow:
“hello folks. I need a retraction from my show yesterday. i was wrong. Mary Magdalene was neither ‘little” or “poor.” in fact, she was a very rich woman who gained her riches from men. When she stopped doing those ‘favors” from men she even got some of them to follow Jesus as well. And they brought their money with them and gave it to his ministry. In fact, she was so prominent in the biblical story and such a big leader in the NT Church that Jesus told her of his resurrection first. So, “poor” and ‘little” will henceforth be used for: my reporting, my biblical exegesis, and my non existent theological pea brain.”

Chris Matthews was later seen drinking kool-aid laced with arsenic and beating his chest with a few “mea culpas” then he drove a “street woman” to the nearby clinic.

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Kara_ite
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:11pm
Christopher Matthews prostitutes himself to the Obama regime every time he opens his mouth, whoops!

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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:10pm
Chris, he also said you shall have no God before Him, and that you are not to worship false idols.

Still got that tingle for Barry?

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- FlagWavingPatriot
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:19pm
  I meant He, with a capital H.
  
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mcsledge
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:09pm
Unless one reads the Bible with intent, they will think that life is all about love and that God’s mercy will carry them to his side no matter their actions or preparations for the after life.

Christ made it abundantly clear that he was not on earth during the meridian of time to condemn man. He came to heal man. However, he never once dismissed sin without effort being made by the one who received his forgiveness.

Christ did not forgive the adulteress. He told her that He did not condemn her (not His mission at the time) and to sin no more. Without her repentance, she would not receive forgiveness.

He also clearly taught that man will be judged according to their thoughts, words and deeds. He/she who fails to be ready for His second coming will not survive the day.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:16pm
  Eloquently stated. Thank you.
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:18pm
  right on! now be prepared to be pounced on by those that wish for a pre-paid sin card. :)
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:07pm
  @MCSLEDGE
  
  Well said.
  
  I like the fact that you used the word ‘repentance’.
  
  There are rules and they must be followed – it is not enough to simply believe.
  
  Chrissy, like many on the Left, have taken Christ’s teachings (which applied to individuals) and transferred them to the state.
  
  They contort the teachings of the Bible and use them to force everyone to ‘take care of the poor’, yet they are the first to cry ‘foul’ when they perceive that the right is trying to force everyone to live by Biblical standards.
  
  It is hypocrisy at its finest.
  
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65Mustang
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:04pm
Jesus teaches baptism (immersion) Romans 6:4, the alternative is Hades or Hell, eternal fire. Chris Matthews, like his fellow MSNBC anchor, Ed Shultz is a true idiot.

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shorelineliz
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:02pm
Chris Matthews defending prostitutes? sounds about right. I think he personally keeps them all employed in his town, doesn’t he?

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- scuba13
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:30pm
  Would that be a male prostitute?
  
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The-Monk
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:02pm
It is 100% completely impossible to understand any scripture when reading through the filter of progressive eyes and ears.

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truemedia
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 2:58pm
Learn your Bible Jesus taught and spoke more about Hell than he ever did about Heaven!

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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:11pm
  This is a fact AMEN
  
  The resurrection/rapture is almost here http://youtu.be/CBsYDhNxFlU
  
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- Greenwood
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:37pm
  Hell = (Hebrew) “Sheol” (Greek) “Hades” really only means the common grave of mankind.
  “Gehenna” is also sometimes translated as hell in some bibles. This is the Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship, including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was used as an incinerator for the filth of Jerusalem. Bodies of dead animals and executed criminals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur, or brimstone, was added to assist the burning. The criminals who were considered undeserving of burial in a memorial tomb, were thrown into Gehenna.
  Matthew 5:29,30 and Mark 9:47,48 also read Matthew 10:28
  
  Romans 6:7 NAB: “A man who is dead has been freed from sin.” Kx: “Guilt makes no more claim on a man who is dead.” NWT: “For he who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”
  
  I really never agree with Chris Matthews but he is right here.
  
  Ecclesiastes 9:5, JB: “The living know at least that they will die, the dead know nothing.”
  NWT: “For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all…………..
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 4:20pm
  Greenwood, you quoted Romans 6:7
  
  So we all need to ask;
  Since we are acquitted of our sins by our dying, then what is the point of a further punishment in a fiery hell?
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 5:24pm
  “15And Jehovah God proceeded to take the man and settle him in the garden of E′den to cultivate it and to take care of it.16And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.17But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” (Genesis 2:15-17)
  
  Death is the penalty for sin, not continual pain or totment.
  
  “17And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and took to eating from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life.18And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field.19In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:17-19)
  
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- Greenwood
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 6:25pm
  @WHITEFANG……..”what is the point of a further punishment in a fiery hell? ………..none
  
  2 Thessalonians 1:9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction, or………eternal destruction, eternal ruin, lost eternally, eternal punishment, eternal punishment in destruction, cutting off from life, destroyed, perish, or death.
  John 3:16………………..might not be destroyed [ perish] but have everlasting life.
  
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carhouse
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 2:58pm
Jesus said unto Chris Mathew, ” your a GD idiot”

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Gonzo
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 2:57pm
He also told her to “Go and sin no more” Chis old boy. Quite different from: “Do as you please and it’s all good.”

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- john vincent
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:11pm
  -yes
  and remember
  
  ‘depart from me, all ye who work iniquity….’ spoken by the SAME Lord
  
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elosogrande
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 2:57pm
Why would anyone be interested in what Matthews has to say, when he has proven over the years that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about – ever. Maybe he thinks that the more vodka he drinks, the smarter he gets…but it ain’t true. Matthews is the worst of a terrible list of anchors at MSNBC.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on March 14, 2013 at 2:56pm
Chrissy every time I hear you speak I vomit profusely yet you’re still there so the advice given by the prog politicians didn’t work. Just find some gay community where you can spend your remaining years with Barry and just stop speaking.

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- Steelhead
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:12pm
  why are you always so angry?
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:15pm
  And Jesus, in ANGER, upset the tables of the Money Changers in the Temple and shouted: “you shall not use my Father’s house as a den of thieves and robbers, but for prayer!”
  
  Nope. Jesus never got ANGRY!
- Gonzo
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:49pm
  Because he is forced to be ruled by the idiots you idolize Steely.
  
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- revron
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:50pm
  Just a reminder to us all that Jesus did display righteous anger at times. When he did, it was always toward the same class of people; the religious establishment.
  We should expect foolishness from the mouth of Chris Matthews when he tries to expound upon scripture, for flesh and blood cannot discern spiritual matter. It is we, the professing Christian, that Jesus holds to a higher standard of profession and righteousness. Do our words speak life or death?
  
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- Just_Us2
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:54pm
  It’s not anger, it is righteous indignation. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees. Satan took bits of scripture and used them to temp and test. Matthews is no different than his master. It should not be a shock. A bad tree bears bad fruit.
  
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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on March 14, 2013 at 3:59pm
  @Progressive – there are times I wish he would just retire and vanish into obscurity.
  
  The facts are clear, Jesus did at times teach of hellfire and the damnation the wicked will face at the end of time. He also got angry at times, confronting the opponents of the truth with righteous indignation. But he also taught of peace and the plan of salvation and of redemption.
  
  He also showed that the final choice between one side or the other, light or dark, salvation or death, are the choice of each person, their FREE CHOICE to make.
  
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