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Mitt Romney Says Thanks: ‘I’m Sorry I Won’t Be Your President, But I Will Be Your Coworker’

Mar. 15, 2013 2:28pm Madeleine Morgenstern

Mitt Romney Says Thanks at CPAC: Im Sorry I Wont Be Your President, But I Will Be Your Coworker

Former Massachusetts Gov. , and 2012 Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, waves as he takes the stage prior to speaking to at the 40th annual Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Md. , Friday, March 15, 2013. (AP)

NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. — It wasn’t exactly a hero’s welcome, but Mitt Romney received a heartfelt and enthusiastic reception from conservative activists Friday afternoon.

In his first public speech since losing to President Barack Obama in November, the former Republican presidential nominee said thank you to those who supported him and tried to push him over the top.

“Of course, I left the race disappointed that I didn’t win,” Romney said as scattered boos echoed from the Conservative Political Action Conference audience.

He recounted some of the many people he and wife Ann met during the campaign, including single mothers and hardworking fathers.

“It’s fashionable in some circles to be pessimistic about America,” Romney said. “I utterly reject pessimism.”

He praised a nation that, despite its hegemonic power, has not used its capabilities for revenge or resources, but that has been “so often used to liberate others.”

“As someone who just lost the last election, I’m probably not the best one to chart the course for the next one,” Romney said, but urged conservatives to look to the 30 Republican governors in the U.S. as success stories for the future — particularly those in blue or purple states.

“I’m sorry I won’t be your president, but I will be your coworker and I’ll work shoulder-to-shoulder alongside you,” Romney said. “I want to thank you again for your support and help along the journey.”

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charleyrocks
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:51am
Look Americans you should have voted him in, you get mad because he won’t resort to name calling well people he is a gentleman just like bush was, but don’t underestimate him, he stands strong and carry’s a big stick like bush did when the towers fell. That was the most important thing you should understand about Romney, he would stand up and protect the american people.

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Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_Arteeest_Beck
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:57pm
“Mitt Romney Says Thanks: ‘I’m Sorry I Won’t Be Your President, But I Will Be Your Coworker’ … ‘I utterly reject pessimism’.”

Well, Mitt “RomneyCare” Romney, you and Barack “ObamaCare” Obama are utterly rejected by America (non-resisted stolen “elections”).

“Now … from the Chicago Tribune where Romney calls Santorum an economic lightweight. Has Romney ever called Obama an economic lightweight? Obama, I just spent [time] at the beginning of the program how Obama is destroying our country. Destroying our institutions. Romney won’t even call him a socialist. This reminds me of McCane. McCane attacking conservatives all the time, but when it cam to Obama he held back. He pulled back. Something’s not right here.”
Mark Levin 3/15
http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930

“So … On the one side of his mouth he’s talking about the Declaration Of Independence, capitalism, he’s a businessman, and on the other side he’s defending RomneyCare, which is really the most radical health care plan before ObamaCare, and he’s defending the mandate because he’s saying it’s only the State imposing it’s will on the citizen.”
Mark Levin 1/30

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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:55am
  “I utterly reject pessimism.”
  It’s easy to be optimistic when you have a billion in the bank.
  As someone once said, “Money won’t buy happiness but it’s easier to cry in a Cadillac than on a bicycle.”
  
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Mik_The_Truth_Blazer
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:51am
Governor Romney is one of the best People America has ever produced and he still will be the President someday.

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- kerijay
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:43am
  No, the communists have raided the government and the dictator will continue. The Fed Reserve Big Bankers runs the world with their private meetings riding around in their limos and living off We the People.
  
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- Mik_The_Truth_Blazer
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:50am
  kerijay you are talking about the Illuminati aren’t you, well do not worry because they do not exist.
  
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RDMercer
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 2:17am
Sorry I took the fall but I was well paid and in the end, isn’t that what it’s all about?

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P8riot
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:27pm
Mitt Romney was the cleanest and most sincere candidate for president this county has had in modern history; a true patriot.

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- P8riot
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:38pm
  oh, and to the libertarians here that can’t stand that republicans are not libertarians…please, let it go… Ron Paul will never win a republican nomination (nor will any libertarian candidate who pretends to be republcan)
  
  My advise to libertarians… stop trying to infiltrate another political party by using divisive tactics and insulting anyone who disagrees with you – and start declaring with pride your own party and attempt to pursuade people to join your cause. The constant insults are getting really old (e.g. implying that we have no idea about the constitution, calling us communist liberals, etc)…
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:48pm
  So you must be packing and on the first thing smoking to move to Massachusetts, huh? Great conservative state right there!
  
  Mitt Romney was all about big government and so is anyone who approved of him. None of you really want small, limited, Constitutional Government. You just want big government that’s painted red and has a R next to the name rather than a D.
  
  As tight of a race as it was, looks like us independents, constitutionalist and libertarians might have made a difference had he ACTUALLY been for limited, Constitutional government. But he wasn’t, so he didn’t get our votes.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:19am
  And draft dodger.
  what is this thing you have with calling draft dodgers, patriots?
  And his 5 ‘girls’ too.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:19am
  Thank you @AMERICAN SOLDIER.
  
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- realindependent
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:15am
  Mitt Romney was a fake. Just like George W Bush and Herbert walker Bush and Reagan.
  
  They all grew government where ever they went. as governors, and as Presidents or would have in Romney’s case.
  
  Take Paul Ryan, your hero of conservative budgets. He voted for both wars, Medicare Part D, The bank bailouts. and every Republican bill that came across the Republican held house as long as he has been in office. Now we are supposed to believe that he is a conservative?
  
  Joke is on you poor suckers that vote for these losers.
  
  One thing you can say about the Democratic Party, they vote in what they believe in.
  
  Barrack Obama is a liberal. ran as a liberal. and Governs like one. Like him hate him. he is what he believes in.
  
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LOJ
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 7:00pm
Romney is smarter and more productive than Obama, kinder, and more compassionate. He should have been more aggressive, his Presidency would have taken this nation to Prosperity and Drilling our own oil, prices would have went down, jobs would have been created, Obama care would have been repealed creating even more jobs and confidence, and the economy would have taken off again.

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- Lily82
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:28am
  Why he didn’t pummel Obozo on Benghazi, I will never understand. Agreed he should have been more aggressive. I grieve the fact that we lost the chance to restore our economy and country with this decent and good man as President
  
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- b.mclane
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:01pm
  A poster above called AMERICAN SOLDIER actually brags how Ron PAULBOTS, etc did not vote for Romney because he is not a “small Govt” purist. TALK ABOUT CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE !! ANYONE WOULD BE BETTER THAN OBAMA!. So you took your ball and went home and we all have to suffer for it??? So glad you are a BIG PICTURE thinker. Romney was the last exit out of this mess. Now you purists can reap the benefits of your small thinking.
  
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- kerijay
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:27am
  And we wouldn’t be in a hole for the $7M vacation and all Moochlle visits to the late night shows and her private vacations. Then they have the guts to talk about the wealthy and everyone must take the hit.
  
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welovetheUSA
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:28pm
When I saw how your people were directing you for the run for the white house, I knew we were doomed…..they tore you up over truths, twisted the truths and you did not fight back..you were to play Mr. Nice guy all the way to the losers box, we needed to to fight back..to tell the 46% why they donot count in this countries polls..the very fact that they live on welfare and collect tax payer money . They need to realize its the tax payer who pays their bills…not the government. Its the hard working dude and the rich man who pay the bills in this country.Without the working tax payer to pay the governments bills…we would be Korea or Cuba. People are not made to listen anymore…you must shock them into paying attention. Let them know excatly what is being done to our schools, programs as absurd as Common Core are being pushed into schools by communist backers.
Geoengineering..seeding of our clouds by the air force is changing our weather and harming our planet…its the real global threat.
Our reserve currency is being replaced by other world governments..this is serious. Our dear sweet Nancy Polosi is trying to nationalize all retirement plans , government take over of all 401Ks..IRAs..etc..courtesy of Chris Dodd and his two unknown programs to strip the elderly and retired folks of their save money..1. US Protection Bureau 2. Office for Older Americans
You could have let lose on the truth and facts and tore down these movement to deastroy this country by the democrat

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nonofmybiznez
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:17pm
Let it be a lesson to every political candidate hereafter. Don’t change what got you there. If you got elected because you were a maverick, warrior, team player, got things done, etc. that is what will keep you there. You were elected because we want someone to fight our fight. Work with the other side when they are willing to work with you and beat them when they stand in your way. We want them to protect us from those who would seek too much power over us. Stand for your principles because without them you will fall victim to the candy that is power. Let us get to know you and don’t let the so called experts handle you and stop you from being you.

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Grannie4news
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:02pm
None of you know what is on his mind or in his heart. He has been painted with a broad brush as a liberal and I, for one do not believe that he is. Some of our best Conservatives were once on the other side of the fence and now we admire them. Take Charles Krauthammer and David Horowitz as two examples. The real Mitt Romney was who you saw in the first debate, until his Republican Party advisers shut him down. Some Conservative talk show hosts did him no favors either. The GOP was after Independents, which they won over, while our real Conservatives stayed home on Election Day because they thought him no better than Obama, which is an absolutely absurd assumption. The rest were your Evangelistic Christians who would rather keep the Marxist in power as they saw a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to be a greater threat to their Nation. Now they sit and whine. Ron Paul followers were no more than a bunch of radical groupie anti war nuts. So to all of you who did not vote I say shut up and shame on you. To boo Romney is very disrespectful.

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- neverending
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:10pm
  It is beyond dispectful it is disgraceful but some love to act like the libs.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:11pm
  You clearly didn’t follow the primaries, where Mitt’s team had a great chance to bring in the Paul supporters, but instead chose to play dirty ball.
  
  And he has a voting record and history we can all examine you know. The real Mitt Romney is cast for the world to see by his judicial appointees, Romney care and voting record in Massachusetts. Or do you think we don’t have the internet?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:12pm
  If you didnt mind Romney talking about expanding education funding, keeping government programs, preventing cuts to mediscare/social security, adding 100,000 military/building more ships, increasing federal minimum wage, and waging war against syria and iran…..perhaps you are a liberal too – or is that a broad brush-stroke?
  
  At the end of the day, Romney differed on Obama in style and not substance. He didnt give the voters any contrast except party politics
  
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- GilbertAcct
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:42pm
  Romney is still a redistributionist, statist, protectionist, big-government guy… he has never converted to small government.
  
  Thinking that Romney is not much different from Obama is not an assumption, but a fact. Get over it, your hero lost – and was a sore loser at that.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:45pm
  His political career is in writing, clear as black and white. His voting record and liberal leaning accomplishments as the Governor of one of the most liberal states in the union makes this very clear. The fact that he won the primary is a clear indication that this country does not really want small, limited government. They want big government, that has their team flag draped across it. That’s all.
  
  Pathetic. I’m proud to have no voted for EITHER of those two.
  
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NewCreationDave
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:44pm
What’s HE doing there? He be more at home at some establishment convention!

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AUsername
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:37pm
i thought it was conservative pac not communist pac. what is a non conservative doing there. still glad he lost not only because they cheated but also his platform was bad for the country no better than the one now.

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sparkyrules
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:33pm
To Mitt Romney…..You ARE ONE….A…..Highwayman…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DKfZsLjpCQ

Thanks for everything my friend.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:40pm
  yea thanks Romney for running over everyone in the primary with great zeal and then laying down in the general election. Romney is just a republican straw man
  
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- sparkyrules
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:52pm
  “It’s fashionable in some circles to be pessimistic about America,” Romney said. “I utterly reject pessimism.”-Mitt Romney
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:19pm
  yea what does Romney care. He has money, family, and all the protection he needs. The rest of us have to worry about our jobs and the government taking our weapons and killing us with drones. It’s easy to be optimistic when you are part of the oligarchy
  
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- spirited
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:27pm
  He has an awful lot of grandchildren who get live after he is gone.
  
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woodyee
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:29pm
It certainly WAS a great speech – A great speech
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Caddell-Blows-the-Lid-Off-CPAC-With-Blistering-Attack-on-Racketeering-Republican-Consultants

but Pat Caddell said NOTHING about “The Architect” Karl Rove. There’s a blowhard that most news organizations have gas-bags on stand-by for…

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- sparkyrules
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:34pm
  Bye Karl….GIT.Please.GIT
  
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woodyee
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:14pm
How many times have we seen Romney since the last election? More than once.

How many times have we seen Dubya since the last election…of 2008? First Lady Barbara appeared on tv the other day, and I kept trying to look under her skirt to see if he was down there…

…but no…

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- sparkyrules
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:20pm
  Who cares? Whats your point?
  
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sparkyrules
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:02pm
Read’em and weep America….

This is the man you discarded!

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- neverending
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:05pm
  And yes our country,
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:06pm
  A progressive east coast type who drew up the plan that Obamacare was written after?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:15pm
  at least 2016 is now in play
  
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- GilbertAcct
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:42pm
  Yes, discarded… but he just won’t go away. He’s a plague to the GOP…. He needs to be re-discarded.
  
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- jethrObama
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:48pm
  GhostOfJefferson, the 10th Amendment. Read it. What a STATE decides to do is WAY different that what should be imposed by a global federal government. Governor Romney did for mass. exactly what he needed to do for a STATE… and was smart enough to recognize that healthcare is something best left up to the states.
  
  States rights leave us in a free country… because if you don’t like the laws in one state, you can always move to another state. On the other hand, as Romney correctly pointed out, federally dictated healthcare is a completely different and unjust concept.
  
  Your comment shows that you don’t get the big picture.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:05pm
  @Jethrobama
  
  The 10th Amendment does not mean states have carte blance to become socialist nightmares that deny us of our basic rights. That’s a neo-confederate argument that was put to rest with the 14th Amendment.
  
  Believe it or not, I’ve read the Constitution and history a couple of times. heh
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:06pm
  “can” and “should” are two separate issues. To conflate them in order to win an argument is pathetic
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:33pm
  @jethrObama
  Google “incorporation clause of the constitution” and you tell me if a state can violate a constitutional right
  
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NILAP
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:57pm
Pat Caddell – see Breibart.com – at CPAC calls Romney the worst executive of a political campaign and skewers all the Republican consultants and the RNC for a campaign that the Republicans should have won.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:04pm
  “I blame the donors who allow themselves to be played for marks. I blame the people in the grassroots for allowing themselves to be played for suckers….It’s time to stop being marks. It’s time to stop being suckers.
  - Caddell
  
  “CLEC–the consultant, lobbyist, and establishment complex”
  
  A great speech
  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Caddell-Blows-the-Lid-Off-CPAC-With-Blistering-Attack-on-Racketeering-Republican-Consultants
  
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- Silvertruth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:14pm
  Yes he was the worst because he played fair and by the rules. He will likely be the last candidate to do so.
  
  He may reject pessimism but I don’t see a way we can get out of this mess until there is some massive catastrophe that forces people to stop thinking about what’s in it for them and start thinking about freedom and personal responsibility. I don’t want to be pessimistic either but realistic is fraught with some seriously dark clouds so it appears pessimistic.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:17pm
  Now that’s another I would have liked to have watched on the Blaze!
  
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Grannie4news
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:55pm
You know nothing about what is in Mitt Romney’s mind or heart. You all have labeled him a Liberal and I for one do not believe that he is, The Republican Party’s consultants though shut up the true Romney after the first debate for coming on too strong to appease and get the Independents and get they they did, while 4 million of Conservatives stayed home either because they viewed him as no better than Obama, which is absurd. He is a Patriot and a man who cares deeply about his country. The others who are mainly evangelistic Christians stayed home because they preferred a Marxist to a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Even Glenn Beck, who so many followed painted him with a broad brush . To all whom stereo typed him, ridiculed him and stayed home from voting for him shame on you and you should not be complaining now that you still are under the rule of a Marxist. Congratulations, a job well done, Do you feel proud of your narrow mindedness?

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- Xanderson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:02pm
  Exactly!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:04pm
  no, Romney said he was a progressive. Didnt you see all the videos we posted?
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:07pm
  So what you’re saying is that we cannot examine his voting record nor his court appointments because they don’t exist and we were simply duped?
  
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- neverending
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:09pm
  @GRANNIE4NEWS – My sentiments exactly. The most tragic part of all is we did not just lose an election but we lost our country. obama was given 4 more years to take this country down and the bastards in that audience booing Governor Romney are just that. Shows exactly what they are and hopefully they will bare the pain and deeper then the rest of us. Yes do pat yourselves on the back for such a great mission accomplished.
  
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- sfrich
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:35pm
  The reason that there were a few million less votes for the Republican candidate in 2012 than in 2008 isn’t that some “true conservatives” stayed home; it’s that most of them are generally so old that a few million die every four years or so. In 2016, there’s going to be a few million less, a few million less in 2020……
  
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- sparkyrules
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:54pm
  Hey dude,“It’s fashionable in some circles to be pessimistic about America,” Romney said. “I utterly reject pessimism.”-Mitt Romney
  Thanks Mitt,America always needs men like you!
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:58pm
  I guess we didn’t learn our lesson. I asked numerous times during the primaries with no real answer what do you think he would be doing differently? Oh yeah, at least he’s not a Marxist (debatable) and doesn’t eat dog. Romney was/is a progressive and there would be no difference except the gun grab would probably already be the law of the land by now. As for him being Mormon, I don’t think that played that much of a factor. Let me put it to you this way, there is army of Ron Paul supporters that would get behind Mormon Mike Lee out of Utah in a heartbeat.
  
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- GilbertAcct
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:22pm
  Not a religious thing for true conservatives. I’m a Mormon and I would never vote for the redistributionist Romney. I voted Johnson.
  
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- Copper Catfish
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Those of you who continue to say that there is no difference between the current President and Mitt Romney: You supported Ron Paul, didn’t you?
  Are you going to stay home in 2016 and allow Mrs. Clinton (another Marxist) to win, if Rand Paul is the candidate, because you will still be angry with him for endorsing Mitt?
  Grow up! The survival of liberty is at stake.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:55pm
  No, I will most likely not vote for Rand Paul because of his interventionalist foreign policy.
  
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Locked
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:55pm
I don’t respect his political views (especially as he was definitely neither a fiscal conservative nor a constitutionalist), but I have no doubt that Romney is a fine man personally. I’d love to share a beer with him.

Oh, I guess Mormons don’t drink. Well, in that case I’d enjoy it even more; you know, two beers for me and water for him. Still seems like a good guy, even if wasn’t a good candidate.

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:05pm
  To be honest, I’m really past the “sit down and drink” test for political candidates. I do agree with what you’re saying in a strict sense, but it seems that the GOP wants to sell only the “nice guy, have a beer with him” thing these days. I cannot remember the last time they nominated a hard edged, dyed in the wool libertarian-conservative type, since Reagan. And honestly, he really wasn’t as conservative as people think he was, but he was a far sight better than the trash coming out of the GOP since then.
  
  I’d rather have a semi-uncharismatic type like Calvin Coolidge, who would always do the right thing and had a strict Constitutionalist mind, than some gleaming shiney nice guy whose political opinions depended on that day’s polling results. Romney is the ultimate proof, in my book, that it’s not all about winning the independent vote. He got a lot of them. The hard conservative-libertarian types just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a guy who is, frankly, a leftist from the east coast.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:37pm
  @Jefferson
  
  Can’t disagree with anything you said. The GOP needs to stop fielding “the everyday man’s man,” and start showing we have “the thinking man’s candidate.” Offer solutions, not the warm-n-fuzzies.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:40pm
  @LOCKED
  
  Hahaha!
  
  We Latter Day Saints make great designated drivers!
  
  Actually, I believe that Romney lost for several reasons..
  
  1) His liberal policies (Romney Care) scared people. Though I believe he only did what the people of Massachusetts wanted him to do. I believe the Tea Party could of kept in line – unlike Obama, Romney loves his country and has no desire to change our ‘history, culture or traditions’.
  
  2) The Progressive’s tactic of ridicule and smear worked.
  
  3) He’s a ‘Mormon’ and many evangelicals have a problem with that – witness the comments on the Blaze. They simply stayed home.
  
  There is also blame to be laid at the feet if his consultants, who apparently convinced him not to go the the offensive.
  
  Ok, four reasons ;)
  
  Add it all up, and we get Four more years on the fast track to ruin.
  
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eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:53pm
Not Romney’s best speech … a few good points, but not great … his heart is in the right place, though.

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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:45pm
No one is perfect ( although Mein Fuhrer thinks he is ) but i still think Mitt would have been a good Prez.
All most anyone would be better than the Communist filth we have now.

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- thetruthlives
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:59pm
  Truly
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:36pm
imagine spending 700 million dollars and not moving the football an inch or advocating any constitutiona/small-government principles…..what a waste

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- Witness1974
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:10pm
  “advocating any constitutiona/small-government principles.”
  
  This is precisely the problem with Romney. He is the last person I would think of when I hear the word principles–”Balance sheet,” maybe.
  
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sparkyrules
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:35pm
“It’s fashionable in some circles to be pessimistic about America,” Romney said. “I utterly reject pessimism.”-Mitt Romney

An American Patriot

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:45pm
  Nope.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:48pm
  I wouldn’t call him a patriot but he’s is a rock solid American to his core.
  
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- sparkyrules
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:57pm
  I’ll shine his shoes anyday! Thanks MUCH Mr.Romney and Ann!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:58pm
  na – obedience to the constitution would have qualified him as a patriot. FDR was also optomistic, but i wouldnt call him a patriot
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:16pm
  @Soy – “YASSUH!”
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:35pm
Maybe he should, you know, just trying being conservative or libertarian for a while. You never know Mitt, you might take a shine to things like philosophical consistency and bedrock values.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:01pm
  it would probably conflict with his foreign intervention and big banking principles (federal reserve, fractional reserve, etc)
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:07pm
  I suspect so.
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:24pm
  GHOSTOFJEFFERSON – As a progressive who leans towards civil liberties as a bedrock principle, I have a serious question for you as a Libertarian. Do Libertarians see any compromise in the principles of the constitution. Let’s take the 1st Amendment. Can I shout fire in a theater? If I can’t, isn’t that a limit of free speech? Let’s take the second amendment – can I own ANY weapon I wish? Like a tank or a missile launcher? Or a nuke? If not, why not? Those are arms after all. What about due process? Are there dangers imminent enough that the government has to move on somebody without a warrant?
  
  These aren’t baiting talking points. I’d really like to know your opinion on these things. I’ve honestly been feeling a little inconsistent in my beliefs lately and I’m trying to reconcile them. Asking a Libertarian seems like a good barometer does it not? :)
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:32pm
  @Checking
  
  Always happy to entertain honest questions. :)
  
  1st Amendment – Yes, you can shout fire in a crowded movie theatre. If there is a fire, it’s perfectly fine. What you cannot do is perpetrate fraud, which shouting fire when there is none in order to get your jollies off, is all about. Anti-fraud is 100% consistent with the Constitution.
  
  2nd Amendment – Great question. There are no practical limits outlined in the Constitution, and it is worth noting that many individuals owned their own cannons and artillery until quite recently, heck many owned (and still own) full auto machine guns. I honestly don’t know the defining line on this, but I’m inclined to go with any weapon you can target individually (meaning against another singular human being) that you can manage to navigate on your own (hence, aircraft, tanks and any full auto you can sport on your own back). Others may disagree legitimately, and that’s an area of open debate in Libertarian circles, so don’t take my word as gospel.
  
  Continued in next post…
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:37pm
  4th Amendment (without a warrant) – of course there are, specifically when a crime is in commission or about to be in commission, where the officer(s) can demonstrate an immediate danger if action is not taken. Hence, they can nab guys walking into a bank with masks on and weapons drawn, for example (but not a guy with a holstered firearm walking in peacefully). Keep in mind however that this precludes any presumed “right” to simply monitor people without a warrant, nor does it grant the government the ability to simply declare somebody undesirable and then spy on them or arrest them or send them to Secret Prisons.
  
  I’ve actually met some people who believed that they are progressives, but didn’t dislike the BOR and who in fact simply were turned off by GOP social conservatism. Libertarians are a great alternative, since we don’t care who you marry or sleep with (as consensual adults), we don’t care what drugs you take as long as you take responsibility for your own outcomes, and we really, really don’t like violations of civil rights, nor do we like undeclared unconstitutional “wars”, but we also value fiscal responsibility and free markets (the real kind, not the corporate state kind).
  
  Does that help answer your questions?
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:07pm
  @checkingbothsides, Just curious. Do you think we should consider what the founders intended when interpreting the Constitution or do you think its meaning has evolved with the times?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:22pm
  Ghost – that was a good response to the “fire” argument – I had always accepted their premise and never considered that….
  
  crickets. maybe he/she was just checking both sides….
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:32pm
  Thanks Soy. :)
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:55pm
  GHOST – Yes, that did clarify some things, I appreciate your response. That’s an interesting point about fraud being constitutional. I suppose that’s also we have libel and slander laws. Can you think of any other example where free speech can be limited that would not be covered by that? I suppose there’s always the Bradley Manning example, revealing state secrets and endangering national security. Although I personally think it’s disgraceful how we’ve treated him since his arrest, it does seem a reasonable restriction to say some things must be secret and are not covered by the 1st amendment.
  
  As to the 2nd amendment question, your guidelines make sense to me. Although once again, I feel like you’re saying that yes, there have to be SOME limitations on our rights for the general welfare. So would it follow then that to ban some kinds of weapons we would have to demonstrate without reasonable doubt that specific weaponry was a hazard to public safety that outweighed 2nd amendment rights? If that’s the case I agree that the government has not yet made that argument, and that many of the choices for bans seem arbitrary.
  
  I honestly don’t think I’m a secret Libertarian, but I agree with you guys on almost every social issue. Leave people alone, and let them live their lives. We’re diametrically opposed on tax issues, but we could act on what we agree on, and show real contrast on the rest.
  Finally, a side question. How do you know when somebody responded to
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 5:04pm
  @Soybomb – Giood lord man, give me a minute! ;) I had to reload the page to even see that somebody had replied. How do you guys do it? And it’s he. And I’m not trying to dismantle your arguments. I’m trying to find common ground. Honestly, I often agree with your points as well. I like that Libertarians are consistent, unlike conservatives.
  
  @Justangry – I think we should consider the intent of the framers, but it’s not the only consideration. For one thing, we are a nation of laws based in precedent. So you can’t just look at the words on the page. You HAVE to look at how they’ve been interpreted over the last 200+ years of case law. And yes, we have considerations that were not an issue in 1791, and you have to interpret those laws for modern times. Heck, if we went purely with the wishes of Jefferson (umm, the actual Jefferson, sorry Ghost ;) ) we would scrap the constitution and re-write it every 20 years for every new generation!
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 5:08pm
  I see the characters remaining are more of a guideline than an absolute. Can we all agree the design of this site is terrible? ;)
  
  @Ghost, I got most of what I was saying on that last post. Ironically, the only part it cut off was where I asked how you guys know when somebody responds to your comments? You both seem to respond rather quickly to most comments.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 11:04pm
  Us libertertains types love the refresh button.
  
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