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Two Surprising Faith Leaders Have Just Come Out in Support of Obama’s Universal Background Checks

Mar. 15, 2013 12:10pm Billy Hallowell

The gun debate has reached nearly every cohort in America, with politicians, victims of violence and even pastors offering up their ideas about what should be done to prevent murders and mass shootings. Amid the litany of voices, there are some surprising faith leaders calling for universal background checks. Two of the most prominent are the Rev. Franklin Graham and Richard Land.

Known as social (and political) conservatives when it comes to most matters, Graham’s and Land’s stance on background checks may serve as a surprise to some. Considering past disagreements with President Barack Obama’s policies, their views on the contentious gun measure are noteworthy (conservatives have long been highly critical of universal background checks).

Rev. Franklin Graham, Richard Land Back Obama on Universal Background Checks for All Gun Sales

Rev. Franklin Graham (Credit: AP Photo)

As TIME Magazine notes, Graham, the son of famed evangelist Billy Graham and the head of Samaritan’s Purse, a Christian relief organization, and Land, who heads the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, have been persuaded to back Obama on universal checks. Their decision comes following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

“As ministers, we agreed together that we could stand on a united front for universal background checks,” Graham noted.

But Land cautioned that the checks are not being widely embraced by evangelicals and that Obama will need to tackle the entertainment industry and mental health if he wants additional to support. He also seemed to indicate that universal checks look better on paper than they do in practicality.

Dr. Richard Land, the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics chief (Credit: AP)

“We’re not going to oppose universal background checks — it’s a nice idea but only law-abiding citizens follow that,” he said. “The more the president can make this a multi-pronged the more support he’s going to receive from evangelicals.”

And, perhaps most intriguing, Land suggested that a tax on entertainment violence could be used to help alleviate the violence problem.

“You could tax violence and that money can be used for a special fund to help people who are victims of gun violence,” he suggested.

Despite these issues, Graham and Land decided to stand united in an effort to back universal background checks, with the former telling TIME that the proposal is “reasonable and responsible.”

“There needs to be an all out effort to curtail the culture of violence that effects all of us,” Graham added.

(H/T: TIME Magazine)

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Comments (228)

PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:41pm
Okay, they’ve jumped the shark and can now be considered NUTS! In this CRIMINALLY violent world HOW are Americans to protect themselves when Courts, Lawyers and Corrupt Politicians want us to protect ourselves with scissors and pens? Don’t they know that 0 is after 1st Amendment Rights ultimately…after the 2nd Amendment is gone? We stand with the “churches” for freedom of speech yet they turn-coat on America’s right to bear arms? THEY ARE STUPID and/or also CORRUPTED!

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- pauli101
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:53pm
  Jews and Jewish organizations lead the gun control campaign
  
  http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/jews-and-jewish-organizations-lead-the-gun-control-campaign/
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:55pm
  Here is a list of pastors that took up arms in the cause of Liberty and get total respect http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/revwar.html
  
  America needs pastors like the ones in this list!
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:55pm
  They are peddlers of the word. They are self-promoters. They are cash’en in on Jesus. They are frauds.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:15pm
  “Never let a good crisis go to waste,” did come from the son of a Jewish terrorist. His name, Rahm Emanuel. This is the Jewish modus operandi of the cultural changing, tradition destroying, I want to rule your life movement. They know it. They just don’t want anyone else to know it.
  
  http://forward.com/articles/168063/after-newtown-jews-lead-renewed-push-on-guns/?p=all
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Someone needs to tell those “faith”leaders that if you’re in for a penny you’re end for a pound. If you support Obama on violating our 2cd amendment rights then you’re supporting you’re supporting late term abortion,unamn drone strikes on U.s. citizens”deemed” to be theat,gay marriage and what ever other unconstitutional and godless policies Obama supports.
  Their parishioners should be fleeing those churches ASAP.
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:56pm
  I will not comply.
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:53pm
  You can always count on THE_JERK to find a way to work in a rant about da joos.
  
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- Brad Orton
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:01pm
  The easiest way to tell a true servant of God is to remove the money from the equation. If they preach for money they are the false prophets we have been warned about. If they preach because they love God and they do not get paid…at all….then you are probably watching a true servant of God in action..
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:08pm
  You know the general consensus at the time was , David was nuts taking on Goliath.
  Mental health is in the eye of a society .
  
  How long will it be ..Before the question of believing in a invisible God …
  Is a mental issue.
  
  And any attempt to move to a happy medium with this administration is a fools journey .
  All they want is momentum in their direction ‘a wedge’ .They don’t want a mile …
  They want the whole road.
  
  I never EVER heard of someone walking away from dealing with a con artist saying
  ‘I convinced HIM’ .
  
  The best you can do when confronting them is you walk away unscathed ..
  
  How the old saying go…
  The first rule in dealing with the devil is DON’T..!
  
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- michael48
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:51pm
  great respect for these folks …but….getting into STUPID TAX legislation could be a slippery sloap to taxing religious orgs…might want to re-think this ..fellas..you handle your flock and let the dem-wits handle thier lemmings…
  
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- RedHarley
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:25pm
  “We’re not going to oppose universal background checks — it’s a nice idea but only law-abiding citizens follow that”.
  
  Exactly….only the law abiding will follow any new laws……..so tell us again why you won’t support the rights given us by God ??
  
  Charlatans …….
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 5:01pm
  What does the politics of gun control have to do with Christianity? Nothing. Maybe they should stick to preaching the word of God. I don’t remember Jesus joining forces with the Romans for spear and sword control.
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:31pm
  The son sure ain’t no Billy Graham. I’m disappointed. And the So. Baptist guy will be kicked out of the conference with his stance if there are still a large number of Southern Baptists who go to church.
  
  Even God allowed uses of weapons of the day, the jaw of an Ass, rocks in a sling…….even Delilah used scissors (ha) and the usual swords etc. What are these so called Men of God saying, exactly?
  Lay down and submit to any terror and forget protecting ourselves? This is NOT of God………
  
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- Grey Eagle
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 9:29pm
  Well, they are entitled to their opinion, but they are totally wrong on this one.
  
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- youshuthehellup
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 11:50pm
  you are a rare specimen of common sense and see reality for what it truly is!
  
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- the68
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 2:15am
  Screw you and your antisemitic conspiracy theories. I swear, sometimes you guys are worse than the radical left.
  
  http://jpfo.org/index.htm
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:07am
  I like this one: “You could tax violence and that money can be used for a special fund to help people who are victims of gun violence.”
  
  So I guess what he’s saying is that when some gang banger shoots someone he should pay a tax. Or when some guy rapes a woman he should leave a $20 with her to pay the violence tax.
  
  I remember reading somewhere that Jesus said something to the effect that if you don’t have a sword then sell your cloak and buy one. I can’t remember where I read that so don’t quote me on it.
  
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- Crazyotto
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:38pm
  I never understood the admiration that hillbilly Graham and his bible thumping charlatan family received from our national leaders.What stooge! I wonder how Beck is going to rationalize this one.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:52am
  “You could tax violence and that money can be used for a special fund to help people who are victims of gun violence,”
  1. Doing anything because it will raise taxes is stupid.
  2. Are you so dumb you actually think any of the money will go to victims?
  3. No matter what, nothing will change. There are 5000 gun laws on the books now. Why not just make murder illegal? Oh, it is. I guess another law isn’t the answer.
  
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- milez5
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 3:32am
  If you have to ask another person’s permission to sell of give away a piece of property, whose property is it? Universal background checks means that you must inform, and then seek permission from the government to sell or give away a firearm even if it’s to a friend or relative.
  There are those who say that government wants universal background checks as a prelude to confiscation. That may or may not be true. However, we really should ask ourselves, if the government does not intend to confiscate the guns, why do they want background checks? It has nothing to do with Sandy Hook. Nancy Lanza passed her background checks just fine.
  
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barber2
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:40pm
Democrats solutions to all societal problems: A.) pass more laws B.) throw more tax payer’s dollars at it and C.) do both.

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- TotallyNotATroll
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Son of a famous preacher, o yes, let us please do what he says sayeth the sheep
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:45pm
  Stick to Gods words. When you do not, you are no longer a man of God, preacher. You are a political hack no different from Anthony Weiner.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:52pm
  The SBC’s Executive Committee can be contacted via telephone by calling (615)244-2355
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:36pm
  @BARBER2, TOTALLYNOTATROLL & THE_JERK
  
  I agree.
  
  They are simply two more examples of shepards who have failed to lead their sheep and now look to Big Brother instead of the Father.
  
  Add them to the list of failed preachers, along with the clergy who penned the letter the other day.
  
  When the cleanse comes, it will start with the church…ridding itself if the wolves in sheep clothing.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:24pm
  the purpose of a shepard is to identify the wolves….
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:25pm
  @SOYBOMB315_II
  
  Exactly…none can hide from Christ, the true Shepard, as he gathers His flock.
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:19am
  @Barber2: And when that plan doesn’t work do it some more.
  
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STREBOR
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:39pm
These two fat sky pilots do not speak for me………….

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:11pm
  folks need to wake up and get with the churches/organizations who understand the bible AND government. Chuck Baldwin and his liberty fellowship is one of them
  
  http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:16pm
  Sky pilot? I am confused
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:24pm
  GOAT: He must be one of our atheists who refer to God in those terms..” sky god.” They are never satisfied with just having a different opinion than you do. They have to Alinsky you with a smear, a put down, a ridicule. It’s the Chicago way. Obama has attracted all of the angry out-siders as part of his base…
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:48pm
  Sky Pilot is an old military slang word for “chaplain”. Eric Burden and the Animals put the term to verse:
  
  He blesses the boys
  As they stand in line
  The smell of gun grease
  And the bayonets they shine
  He’s there to help them
  All that he can
  To make them feel wanted
  He’s a good holy man
  
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- STREBOR
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:53pm
  Sky Pilot is a song by Eric Burton. It concerns a front line chaplain facing day to day tribulations in times of war. Good song but somewhat depressing.
  As far as these two reverends are concerned: NOBODY steps on Our Constitution……especially the pulpit!
  
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- STREBOR
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:55pm
  Dismayed Veteran…..Thank You! BTW I’m Catholic!
  
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stealthseesall
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:38pm
How about coming out with universal gun checks on Black and Latino Gang members and Criminals.
Ah..just more BS from Reptilians posing as Faith Leaders. Enjoy, for now your time to rule this planet

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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:53pm
  Yes, because that’s a good reason not to have a law–people might not follow it! Hahaha.
  
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- STREBOR
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:51pm
  Gangs don’t BUY guns they TAKE them.
  
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RLTW
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:34pm
“Two Surprising Faith Leaders Have Just Come Out in Support of Obama’s Universal Background Checks”

And in so doing only add stupidity to inequity.

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- Grace1798
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:46pm
  Then we should also have a total and complete “background check” of Obama’s complete history as well.
  
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- thop1960
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:58pm
  @Grace1798,
  
  Touche!
  
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Kara_ite
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:33pm
I would suggest that these two tax exempt blow hards need to read the Constitution and the Amendments to the Constitution.

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pap pap
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:32pm
Universal background checks are just a feel good action for the ignorant. The bad guys won’t bother with it and the good guys will be on a list of who has guns for the feds. The TAX on movie violence would violate the first amendment. How many Amendments are we going to violate ???

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chadred
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:32pm
I’m sorry, but you two are fighting for liberal commies. I think you need to pray for the country, not give opinions on gun control. If you are going to give your two cents, study the issue a little better before you open your mouth. IT WILL LEAD TO CONFISCATION, PERIOD.

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judy828
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:32pm
Please say it isn’t so graham. Love your father and family.they are not just taken gun rights away the govt. is not following the constitution and taken all our rights away.the people in power will have death panels, states rights, schools will and have been teaching their agenda. It does not stop with gun laws. Our babies born and unborn the govt not protecting they also will not protect americans.May the Good Lord help protect this nation and the military that was and is sent overseas.

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- Crazyotto
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:42pm
  Graham has once more proven that he like most evengelical phonies is much more interested in the dollar than civil liberties… His father was a fraud his foundation is a fraud and now he is exposed … god will still hear you despite these disgraceful men
  
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common cents
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:29pm
I wonder if Jesus had government “background checks” done on his disciples in Luke 22:36
“Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”
For those who don’t believe it was an actual “sword” Jesus was talking about, what did Peter cut the guards ear off with in Mark 14:47 ?

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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:39pm
  Want to bet the churches where these two serve are gun free zones?
  
  Anyone else remember the WWII song “Praise The Lord and Pass the Ammunition” by Kay Kyser in 1942? We are facing an enemy from within our own country that is just as cold to liberty and the Constitution as the Axis powers in WWII.
  
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  And we’ll all stay free
  
  Praise the Lord and swing into position
  Can’t afford to be a politician
  Praise the Lord, we’re all between perdition
  And the deep blue sea
  
  Yes, the sky pilot said it, you gotta give him credit
  For a son of a gun of a gunner was he
  
  Shouting, ‘Praise the Lord, we’re on a mighty mission
  All aboard, we ain’t a-goin’ fishin’
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  And we’ll all stay free’
  
  Praise the Lord
  (Praise the Lord)
  And pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord
  (Praise the Lord)
  And pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord
  (Praise the Lord)
  And pass the ammunition
  And we’ll all stay free
  
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
  And we’ll all stay free
  
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RightUnite
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:29pm
Separation of Church and anything political. STFU!!

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- ItchyTheClone
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:09pm
  I hate to break this to you but religion and politics are exactly the same thing. They are the rules that we have set in place to decide what the difference between right and wrong are. In my opinion, preachers that do not involve themselves in politics are good for organizing a picnic, but their opinions are worth exactly as much (or as little) as a lefty hollywood bugger. Anyone that has to ask you to trust them is probably not very trustworthy. Goes double for people who claim a leadership role.
  
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SBR308
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:26pm
Jesus spoke to me and said ignore these fools for they know not what I say.

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Beachmastermax
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:26pm
Next thing they will suggest is that you need to have a mark on the back of your hand or forehead to purshase one.

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smokeyridgerunner
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:25pm
Just stop giving money and they will learn to keep their month shut.

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- RightUnite
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:29pm
  Amen!
  
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mapgirl10
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:22pm
They have their opinion and I have mine. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”. That is my opinion.

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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:30pm
  I assume then that you are a member of a “well regulated militia”?
- Beachmastermax
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:36pm
  A well regulated Malitia is just one beneefit derived from a citizens RIGHT to bear arms.
  
  This is about the RIGHT to bear arms, not the right to be in a militia.
  
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- rt elms
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:42pm
  There’s as much a right to be in a well-regulated militia as there is to keep and bear arms. We are free to choose both, either or neither. Ain’t freedom grand!
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:13pm
  He know. Publius can only fall back on his boilerplate. Ultimately though they know that “well regulated” meant well practiced. These people really don’t deserve to even be addressed these days, all they do is lie, distract and spin. To hell with them.
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:20pm
  Pubicpencil – we are people so the right of the people to bear arms can’t be infringed. And perhaps a little history lesson on what milita meant at the time the 2nd amendment was penned
  
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- wigone
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:41pm
  The old second amendment clause …a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of free State, the right of the “Government Selected” people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. “We the Governing People of the United States of America.” See the Founders knew that the only way to keep freedom is for the tyranical government to establish militias to control the “Pedestrian” populations!
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:52pm
  Ghost,
  
  “Ultimately though they know that “well regulated” meant well practiced.”
  
  Actually, it meant a whole host of things, including giving up time to be drilled with others in your community, to be deployed at the command of the state or federal government, and to always have on hand a specific type of weapon according to the needs of your local unit. If you think “well practiced” simply means you go down to the shooting range once in a while, that’s complete nonsense. That was certainly not the way wars were fought then (they stood in ranks and had very strict discipline), and its not how they are fought now. So, unless you are advocating every gun owner complete mandatory military/tactical training, than we can say that modern day gun owners are not fulfilling any of the obligations that the founders referred to in the phrase “well regulated.”
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:18pm
  All you do is make a case for full reinstatement of the militia and the removal of restrictions on real assault weapons aka select fire full auto type arms. I’m good with that. Unfortunately, you statist types keep erecting laws and restrictions on those Constitutional actions, functions and tools. This is putting you on notice that we’re no longer going to allow you to continue down this path.
  
  Keep it up, and you may well see an armed march on D.C. Face it guy, we outnumber your kind by a factor of hundreds to one. You couldn’t stop us. And if that does happen, we might as well “ask” that restrictions on things like select fire weapons be removed once and for all.
  
  You don’t know the fight your picking, and I’m glad of it. Notice that I’m not debating you, I’m telling you what’s going to happen. If your side doesn’t don’t dummy up, I really cannot predict the outcome of what will happen to y’all once our side is mobilized. There simply aren’t enough libertarians to restrain the more passionate…bedrock conservative types, that may come out of the woodwork with rope. You people would do well to simmer down and back off.
  
  No debate, no conversation, no compliance. Learn, if you value continuing to have any voice in this nation. If you really do think you’re smart, now is the time to start proving it.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:30pm
  I’m certainly not advocating for either of those things–I’m just pointing out that the right to bear arms was, in the intent of the founders, tied to any number of specific and occasionally burdensome civic obligations. Actually, come to think of it, perhaps we should make membership in the national guard obligatory for anyone who wants to own a gun. Something makes me that this won’t go over too well with the crowd here. Most of them are just interested in keeping their toys for their own reasons.
  
  Hahaha. More silly bluster. Go ahead–march on Washington. stop talking about it and do it. You talk a big game, but in the end you are just posting nonsense on a Conservative website where you know people probably won’t call you on it. Big man!
  
  And really, I can’t think of a better justification for gun control than the idea of a bunch of armed nuts taking shots at their fellow citizens because they decided they don’t like the law.
  
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- nesmond
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:40pm
  @Pubes:
  
  The forefathers wanted us to be armed and ready. Not only for personal defense or to repel foreign invaders like the Brits, but to defend ourselves from our own government should it decide to turn on it’s citizens. Anyone that has a lick of sense about them would understand that a well-regulated militia should not be regulated by the government. How can anyone be so stupid as to use that argument has, in my opinion gone full ******. And you know you never go full ******.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:55pm
  Public
  
  You haven’t figured what will happen. Conservatives won’t instigate a civil war. We will respond to a civil war waged against us.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 6:23pm
  Nesmond,
  
  “Anyone that has a lick of sense about them would understand that a well-regulated militia should not be regulated by the government.”
  
  Hahaha. Well, let’s see what the Constitution says about militias:
  Article 1 Section 8: Powers of Congress:
  “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
  To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”
  
  Hahaha. How’s that for your “lick of sense”?
  
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:22pm
Tax the stupid statements from lefty dupes. BIG money there.

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eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:19pm
Universal background checks will lead to a national gun registry, which will make it easier for obama’s rogue government to confiscate our firearms – this is obama’s goal. Give them an inch …

We must prevent any further UNCONSTITUTIONAL infringements upon our 2nd Amendment rights.

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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:33pm
  Cars are registered, and no one is arguing that this inevitably leads to a universal confiscation of cars.
- Beachmastermax
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:44pm
  PPP
  Learn the difference between a right and a privilege. Your comments are sophmoric.
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:45pm
  “Cars are registered, and no one is arguing that this inevitably leads to a universal confiscation of cars.”
  
  Governments don’t have a history of confiscating cars.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:53pm
  Driving on public roads is not a Constitutionally guaranteed right. As a matter of fact, if you buy a car outright, keep it on private property and never drive on public roads, you do NOT have to register your vehicle, nor do you have to obtain insurance. Registering vehicles with the DMV and obtaining insurance or proving some other way of financial responsibility is done as part of the agreement you make with your state govt in order to drive your private property on public roads.
  
  That stinging feeling on your face? Oh, that’s because you just got b*tch-slapped.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:01pm
  PUBLIUSOBAMAPENCILPUSHER: Haven’t heard many Democrat politicians talk about restricting car ownership….yet….speed kills, you know…
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:40pm
  Of course, you are all missing the point. The point is that registration does not inevitably lead to confiscation. There is no evidence that it should–it’s NOT a slippery slope. Simple as that.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:20pm
  PUB: From an administration founded on the principles of Alinsky , with ties to ACORN , SEIU, OWS, which claimed that a suspiciously created video caused Benghazi , whose Democrats were involved in the Zimmerman media circus and ” trial ,” and who still refuses to release the college records of a president who wrote an autobiography with ” composite” girl friends , all the while claiming to be ” The Most Transparent ” in history : I don’t trust the Obama people . I do not believe any thing they say nor any promise they make.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:23pm
  No, you miss the point entirely. Nobody registers cars to confiscate them. All gun registration results in bad things for gun owners.
  
  But of course, you know this.
  
  Register, don’t register, we don’t care. We’re not going to be participating, and there’s not a damned thing you or your lackies can do about it. Want to try and convince us otherwise? Too bad. You’ve had your day, and are no longer part of the “conversation”. Too bad.
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 3:23pm
  LOL…PUBLIUS seems to be missing the lead from his pencil. But not to worry …
  Before it all over I’m sure someone will give this mindless dweeb theirs..!
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 4:36pm
  “No, you miss the point entirely. Nobody registers cars to confiscate them. All gun registration results in bad things for gun owners.”
  
  Yes, it would be great for all your paranoid delusions if I was secretly scheming to take away all of your guns. I must be part of some grand conspiracy, right! I must have some deeper plan, right!
  
  Sorry buddy. I’m just a citizen and a tax payer like you. I have no other power than my right to vote. Enough with your delusions.
  
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searching for the Truth
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:19pm
I respectfully and adamantly disagree – the Bible tells me – I can.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:29pm
  I’m with you there. In my mind these two are just playing into this to make themselves seem more popular.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:56pm
  On the other hand, these two and others like them remind me of the story of the Mama, Papa, and baby tomato that went on a stroll : The baby tomato was lagging behind the Mama and Papa – all of a sudden the papa says, ” Catch-up.” The baby tomato replies, ” I can’t , I be Heinz! ” They be Heinz’s.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:23pm
  They be lagging behinds.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:32pm
  That’s as far as I go.
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:36pm
  Wait a minute! How do these guy’s Baptize?
  
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- searching for the Truth
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:37pm
  Then I’ll confirm Leadership.
  
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thara
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:19pm
No thank you Mr Graham and Mr Land. I know where background checks are going to lead to. I think you both need to go back to your prayer closets and talk to the Lord…….

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Witness1974
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:18pm
If your principles change after the actions of one crazy man, then you are unprincipled.

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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:37pm
  If reasoned argument refuse to consider new evidence, they are no longer reasonable.
- Witness1974
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:06pm
  Sandyhook is not new evidence. Both men know perfectly well the evil nature of men, as did the founders, which was the reason they penned the second amendment.
  
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kaydeebeau
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:18pm
Nice idea there Reverends. When you can guarantee tha DeShuan selling out of the back of his Escalade in a back alley in Chicago is pulling out his iPad and doing a background check on TeQuean and Antwuann before the money changes hands for the 9mm he has, we can talk.

Since criminals by their very nature will not and do not obey the laws and since I need to be on the level field to protect myself from those criminals – I refuse to be labeled a criminal because I didn’t run a background check on my son before I gave him his first 12 guage for Christmas

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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:32pm
  If you don’t want to be labeled a criminal, then don’t break the law.
- 00100111
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 1:56pm
  Pencildick. I do not obey unconstitutional laws. I do not comply with illegal laws. I pick and choose which laws I obey. I am not “law abiding”, I am a free man. You are free to come to my door and challenge me if you don’t like that. You’ll get shot, though.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:44pm
  Haha. You’re going to shoot me? Big man! I tremble in the face of your manly bluster.
  
  I hear a lot of this goofy bluster on these sites. Of course, none of it comes to anything. But go ahead–shoot a cop who comes to your house to enforce the law. Shoot a guy with children and a family just because you think the Constitution is something you can interpret however you like. Shoot someone because you don’t actually believe in the rule of law (which is the only actual way a society stays free in the first place). Shoot someone because you want to keep your toys. We’ll see how much sympathy you get, big man.
  
  Enough of your bluster.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 2:44pm
  Label me a criminal for not obeying lawless laws, Pencil, and I’ll go ahead and figure “why not full auto?”. How about them apples, kid?
  
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seek.the.truth
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:16pm
The Sandy Hook shooter failed a background check. Didn’t stop him.

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IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:16pm
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

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Red Meat
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:14pm
Marxist hucksters. They should be ignored.

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- Despiser25
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:17pm
  Ignore a Marxist at your own peril, not mine…
  
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- Swalker
  Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:21pm
  God and I will just say no.
  What the hell do they think all this data will do to us.
  Where has the real America gone..
  
  I will not comply……
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 15, 2013 at 12:14pm
Ok. I come out in support of background checking and thorougly vetting the mental health and stability of these pastors and everybody that attends their church. Further, I support restricting their right to preach to only cover 4 topics, that I get to choose. Also, I’m in support of restricting the number of people who are allowed to sit in their church pews. What NEED do they have of thirty people on Sunday, when 10 will suffice?

Wanna play, progs? How about this. Shove it up your collectivist arses. Does that work for you?

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- girlnurse
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:11pm
  Here here…well said GHOST!
  Im sure Mr. Graham has an armed bodyguard who follows him everywhere he goes….who in the *&^%()$^ do they think they are?
  
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