‘Birther Queen’ Orly Taitz Shouted Down at CPAC Panel
Breitbart.com’s CPAC panel “The Uninvited” was intended to stoke controversy, both within the wider political culture and within CPAC itself, given that its panel consisted entirely of speakers excluded from the conference. But probably no one expected the “Uninvited” panel to “un-invite” one of their own audience members — namely, famous Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorist Orly Taitz. (Video below, courtesy of Salon)
The panel, which concluded with statements from famous anti-Islam firebrands Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer, had already strayed into territory that the organizers of CPAC would have found uncomfortable, such as the disputed theory that American Conservative Union board members Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan have consciously aided Islamist elements.
“I don’t know Grover Norquist personally. I met him once. I met Suhail Khan twice. I don’t know these guys. What I do know is that they’re completely in bed with the same people Barack Obama is listening to to draft the Muslim Brotherhood-positive foreign policy of the United States, and domestic policy as well,” Spencer argued in the panel, drawing applause.
Then, when the Q&A opened, Taitz stood up and began an impromptu speech of her own, demanding to know why the panel hadn’t tackled the issue of the president’s birth certificate, and advancing arguments common within the so-called “birther” community. Gellar didn’t directly tackle the issue of birtherism, but did snap at Taitz for her presumption.
“I think there’s enough substance on this panel, I mean how many topics can you handle?” Gellar asked. “Inappropriate, really.”
Taitz, however, wasn’t interested in what Geller had to say. She wanted to nail Breitbart executive chairman Stephen Bannon to the wall, and asked him aggressively why he and his site hadn’t touched the issue. Bannon responded citing the late Andrew Breitbart’s own feelings on the issue, before Taitz interrupted him.
“You don’t talk for someone who is dead!” Taitz demanded.
“We are not a birther site,” Bannon said.
“That shows that you have no integrity,” Taitz shrieked, before the audience booed her down.
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antitheism
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:24pmI support the birthers and their effect on the perception of conservatives.
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Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_Arteeest_Beck
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:27pm“‘Birther Queen’ Orly Taitz Shouted Down at CPAC Panel”
” ‘Birther Queen’ ” & “Shouted Down at CPAC Panel”? Shows something about Conservatives politics ..
These organizations have been COMPROMISED and harbor controlling elements of Progressives(communists), which have mostly over-run the Republican Party and have completely subdued the Democrat Party. That make Washington DC (and a certain section of Texas?) a hot-bed of TREASON.
HOW ELSE .. could Barack Hussein Obama, AKA Barry Obama, AKA Barry Soetoro, .. a poor, half-breed, muslim bastard born in Kenya .. sneak into the U.S.A. .. get into a prestigious law school .. run for public offices .. and become a White House “occupier” ..
all with a Kenyan birth certificate:
http://i3.ytimg.com/bg/jKZugo0aaREqEyqXIzGDVw/102.jpg
and a Connecticut social security number:
[RE: 042-68-4425 Connecticut issued SS number that was assigned to a person now deceased]
.. and an army of lawyers to keep all his records “sealed”?
AP declares Obama Kenyan-Born (And 2008 AP Story Repeats the Claim)
http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/
“the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.”
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:44pmOrly Taitz and Donald Trump. Two of the highest profile speakers at CPAC. Despite the idea promoted here – although certainly not before the election – that far right has given up on the birther theme (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/15/chris-matthews-goes-on-anti-trump-birther-rant-and-gets-called-out-on-it-nobodys-talking-about-it-but-you/), two of the highest profile speakers at CPAC have name recognition in politics ONLY because of their birther ideas.
Of course that’s Orly Taitz obsession, and birtherism was the platform Trump ran on in his short lived Presidential run.
You guys need to get past this birther stuff.
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Concerned Green Beret
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:50pmSad state of affairs the country is in right now. No one wants to address seriously the biggest fraud perpetrated on the American People. Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be president! That is a fact, and all one has to do is read the birth certificate that he himself released. His father was not an American citizen. After that fact it does not matter where he was born. A natural born citizen is the highest form of citizenship, and it is a citizen born on US soil to two parents of US citizenship at the time of birth. President was the only office the founders put that requirement on and then it was later made a requirement for VP with the 12th Amendment.
There are at least 5 supreme court rulings on the criteria, which makes it settled law!!!:
Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
Shanks v Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet.242 242 (1830) (several of these justices were part of the constitutional convention)
Dred Scott v Sanford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
So the birther queen is not as whacky as those jackasses on that panel were trying to make her out to be. It takes strength to stand strong on morality. Our problem today is we have too many cowards in positions of authority. And as long as those people run this country we will die as a nation.
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:50pmBlaze posting is weird – CPAC Orly Taitz was able to discuss the issue of Obama’s forged IDs with former Attorney General of the United States Edwin Meese Taitz provided Meese a copy of Obama’s 2009 Tax Return, which was posted by Obama on WhiteHouse.gov on April 15, 2010, PDF of which was not initially flattenned before posting, and which contains an unredacted Social Security Number. Taitz also provided Meese E-Verify and SSNVS reports showing that the Social Security number used by Obama was never assigned to Obama , an individual with a stolen Social Security number is residing in the White House.. Taitz advised Meese that she brought a legal challenge in the Federal Court in California and that the Holder Department of Justice appeared on behalf of the U.S. Congress seeking to dismiss the case, presenting to the judge that the U.S. Congress does not want the court to adjudicate on the merits. Taitz related to Meese that a number of U. S. Representatives and U.S. Senators advised Taitz that when the Department of Justice made such statement, the U.S. Attorneys did not consult with the Congress, that the members of Congress were kept in the dark and that we have now a scandal much bigger than Watergate that involves not only the President, but also the Attorney General and the Department of Justice.
http://theobamahustle.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/breakng-news-orly-taitz-discusses-obama-fraud-to-members-of-us-congress-at-cpac/
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4029
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:58pmDemocrats realized in the 60s that they were not going to be able to stop MLK and the republicans with the civil rights movement. Wanting to still **** on blacks and Indians they made them their slave class (The great society) and for decades have been pushing, and now push harder for TAXing the wealthy and redistribute as entitlements/security that they “feel” the peasants have coming, nevermind, ill get back to the topic.
US Code 1401 statutes for naturalized-at-birth (NAB) US Citizenship still reflect the original intent of the 14th amendment:
Democratic Government classifications are as follows;
NAB #1=JS/STJ Anyone born here subject to the jurisdiction (STJ) of the USA, as in having no other citizenship by natural law is a naturalized-at-birth US Citizen (NAB). (No other jurisdiction means no country alliegence/slave)
Next is Anchor babies (with 2 foreign citizen parents) are not born subject to the jurisdiction of the USA since they are from born foreign citizens (from the parents).
NAB#2=JS/1IND Or, you must have 1 American Indian (1IND) parent (meaning 1 US Citizen) and be born on US soil, jus soli (JS).
NAB#3=NJS/1USC Or, you must have 1 US Citizen parent (1USC) and be born abroad (non jus soli NJS).
NAB#4=NJS/2USC Or, you must have 2 US Citizen parents (2USC) and be born abroad (non jus soli NJS).
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:00amSo, the only jus soli JS naturalized-at-birth US Citizenships NAB were meant for former slaves, or for babies with one Indian or US Citizen parent, since Indians are US Citizens. (I know what you are thinking, but you can’t take laws/regulations from 2011 and apply them to the 1960s now, she was not age of majority, but still NAB vs NBC clearly defined)
STJ does not mean 2 foreign parents as “Democrats” falsely espouse, since that would mean having 2 foreign parents have more rights than having 1 US Citizen parent or slave.
Democrats diluted the true rights of Indians and blacks with foreigners for their own political agendas, to create a new slave class (from anchor babies).
It also makes no sense for the law to read “no US Citizen parents born on US soil” are required for NAB Citizenship but the next paragraph says “one US Citizen parent born on US soil” is required for NAB Citizenship, but still not a Natural Born Citizen.
Also that shows that 1 US Citizen parent born on US soil is just a statutory naturalized-at-birth US Citizen. So no matter how you slice it, it takes 2 citizen parents to be natural born by natural law.
So that means, Per the Constitution of the United States; Article II Section 1 including and not limited by The Fourteenth Amendment and also the Declaration of Independence, upheld by the Supreme Court with – SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, 88 U.S. 162, Minor v. Happersett, Argued: February 9, 1875 — Decided: March 29, 1
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:00amAre you still yapping merorite….Your a moron and everyone knows that!
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:00amBarack Hessuen Obama (Father is a British Citizen), John McCain (born on Sovereign Panama Soil), Marco Rubio [non US father at time of birth, Naturalized after birth] are all not eligible to be POTUS or VPOTUS.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401—-000-.html http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZS.html
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:13amAll we want is a day in court…..Metoit say just forget it……..lol
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:18amThe truth. Regardless of who it hurts. Any trolls have questions??
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:27amHeres one Why don’t someone run a simple pole: IS Obama constitutionally eligible to be president and why?
He was not born in USA.
4 votes (23%)
His father was not a citizen.
1 vote (5%)
Only the above 2 options.
0 votes (0%)
He became a dual citizen in Indonesia.
2 votes (11%)
His forged service I.D Card.
0 votes (0%)
His S.S. number is not really his.
0 votes (0%)
All the above.
10 votes (58%)
Hillary just made this all up all this is nonsense!
Even this site won’t do it the are to scared or the results!
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:35amRun a simple pole this site let’s see how the people feel……they won’t they are to scarded…..They let this Marxist steal 7 Trillion!! The old crooks can’t be shown they are/have been really on Oxycotton!!
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Gregory_Adams
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:45amShocked.
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Clorox
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:51amWalksoft, is that you Mr Smith? (KOS)?
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:39amNo I didn’t even scratch the Bolshevik yet!!
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:48amMytheos Holt: Why not Run the pole cut the B/S!!
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:53amhttp://www.tomatobubble.com/presidentpsycho.html
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Obama Been Lauding
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:15amHere is what I believe happened.
Barack’s mother was pregnant, in Kenya, seeing her husband, Barack Senior.
She went into labor while there, and could not fly back home.
She called here parents in Hawaii, to tell them to put a birth notice in the newspaper, and as soon as she could travel, they would go get a Birth Certificate in Hawaii.
The reasons were, to be eligible for all the entitlements U.S. citizens have. Social Security, Medicare, etc.
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upeopleneedtogetalife
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:25amWhile he may not have been born in Africa there’s little dobut that his birth cetificate is a forgergy..
No one even disputes his phony social security number do they Glenn Beck?
What a joke.
Beck and other shills protect Obama in this arena because they have been commanded to do so.
They know the truth would hurt the country so much.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:20pmBirther DRAG queen.
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 3:26pmBeck,Levin,Rush,Britbart. They love the country and all it’s freedoms but select what truth to follow. I like what they try and sell but, there’s always a but though. This birth issue is the whole anchalota if we can’t vet the Flipping president or use the order of law to get basic questions answered what the F are we trying to prove here?
The truth “LiVED” here Beck and his entire staff are to scared to even put a simple pole so millions can vote Honestly on the issue. They won’t why they are scared to be called a Birther. They left already freaks out on the right for whatever they say as it is….Screw them what the F do we care what they say they want to us yes “We the People’” to subsidize their power to shoot us or cage us up like animals anyway…..The Blaze call Comcast get us on cable so we can pick what part of the Republic we chose to stand for! Go pound your own Azz the network you are Building……You sound like the department of DHS Will buy you 1.5 billion rounds of listeners.
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Open_Your_Eyes
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 4:33pm@Concerned Green Beret
Every case you listed has either been superseded by the 14th amendment or was decided in direct contradiction to the point you are trying to make.
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demsrtraitors
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:10pmAs you can see , When the president, politicians, judges, lawyers, police officers etc don’t obey the law then THERE IS NO LAW. One thing for sure is liberals , democrats and progressives are united in destroying America. Their president through executive order and congressional laws have been passed to ensure non liberals obey and if not you will go to prison or be swatted. It’s a shame conservatives will not unite and fight as hard as the liberals to defend and save America. One thing America learned during the civil rights era is Boycotts do work. Yet many of you shop in liberal cities, drive GM / Chrysler autos, buy GE products, see hollywood liberal movies, use progressive insurance and use any local business that’s supports liberals and democrats. etc. No wonder they don’t fear or respect Conservatives. BUT if you unite and use your / our money then the liberals and their political heroes would be listening. If you won’t turn it into a movement then its a slow grind to the halt of what America once was.
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realindependent
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:36amI am selling tinfoil hats. 10 for $10.00 US
If Glenn Beck can do nothing but sell stuff on this site. So can I.
trolllololololol
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BlackCrow
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:08pmAt this point what difference does it make? The Communists cheat to win elections and if they would boot Obama we end up with Biteme.
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displaced_maineiac
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:50pmIt is my understanding that if Obama is shown not to be a legitimate president, then all the legislation he has signed into law is invalid — including Obamacare. (Correct me if I am wrong on this.) If so, this would not be such a bad thing. And he might also be impeachable for fraud. Some days I think I might even be able to tolerate Foot-in-Mouth Joe for 3 or 4 years. He’s lame and he’s liberal, but I think he’s a puppet, and if we can remove the puppet-master, he may not have as his chief goal the total destruction of our country.
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Recovering_Sheeple
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:35pmNone, and it’s sad, it should have been a national discussion. The truth will come out in the end.
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:58pmThis issue in my opion proves just how far down the Progressives path. They have managed to shut down 98% of anything about looking into this birth research that has absolutely uncovered a wealthy cause to look into what has surfaced. They spiked virtually every single major media outlet and 95% of every other news outlet. They completely shut down the courts and not 1 politician will touch it. They will get attacked and scared into and unelectable situation. This also proves to me they really don’t care to really over turn Obamacare it’s all hype to make it look like they do for campaign cash. They pass they fight like hell and everything passes by 1 vote. this says to me they only want to kill off family wealth and harvest the estate wealth by taxation.
Yes if he is a proven a Usurper his signature is meaningless and the 2nd reason the progressives cannot let this happen and more proof of how far we have slid to the real end game a 1 world Government.
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WalkSoft
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:16amOh and these morons let him steal 7 Trillion!!
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 4:52pmWrong! Biteme would be gone too as with ALL legislation that has been passed since 0 usurped the presidency! Next in line Boehner would take office until next election.
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ledbythnose
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:43pmFor crying out loud People. Barry Soetoro , or who ever this Clown is presented a poorly faked BC to the entire Population on National TV. It has been declared a fake by numerous Forensic Scientist. I could care less where he was born. He committed a felony on National TV as the entire Nation looked on. And not a single Criminal in Congress has said one thing about it publicly. The SS NUMBER he is using disqualifies him from passing E-VERIFY . What in the H@ll is wrong with this picture? We can argue till the Cows come home about Natural Born Citizen and continue to overlook a felony committed right before our eyes. At the very least he should be arrested just like you or me if we committed a FELONY. Good grief People.
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:57pmI think it is a crying shame that a courageous woman like Attorney Orly Taitz is shouted down when all she is doing is pointing out that Barack Hussein Obama has been using a fraudulent SS# for years, he fraudulently registered with the Selective Service (not very appropriate for the Commander in Chief), and has indeed been flaunting a forged birth certificate. He has various akas (Barry Soetoro, Harrison J. Bounel, Barack Soetoro, Barack Obama Soebarackah) which should have been a red flag for any journalist or news person. Connect the damn dots, we have a usurper in the White House and why the hell should be ignore this scandal. Is it because all are afraid to disqualify our first “so-called” black President? That’s my bet! CPAC and Breitbart are shameless! They all pretend to love the Constitution when in fact they ignore this Constitutional scandal of the century.
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OBAMANATIONOFDESOLATION
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:09pmIf you have any doubt about his birth certificate, this should clear it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY
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Crazyotto
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:34pmSorry the ability to win that argument has passed like that silly cow Orly who has done much to damage the ability to legitimately debate significant issues. I have no doubt that Obama somewhere phonied up his resume to look as if he was a foreigner or some type of disadvantaged youth. how else does an unremarkable student transfer from a mid-tier private West Coast liberal Arts College to Harvard without anyone having seen his transcripts. I have no doubt that like Warren he lied about his heritage and upbringing. No one will listen to the argument and that is over half the battle.
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Devildog7777
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:47pmF***in A Right!!
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:10am@Crazyotto, the reason Obama/Soetoro/Soebarackah/Bounel sealed his college transcripts is to hide the fact that he was still using his Indonesian citizenship to scam the system for loans and acceptance into the institutions. That makes his sorry **** a “dual citizen” and thus NOT a “natural born Citizen.” He was not lying about anything, he was a “foreign student” at Occidental and Columbia and that will eventually be uncovered before his second term expires or he resigns in shame. While a “foreign student” he did not need to register with the Selective Service but when he decided that he wanted to enter politics the law required him to be registered with the Selective Service. His handlers realized this and they were forced to fraudulently register him with the Selective Service, a crime punishable by a $250,000 fine and a 5 year prison sentence. When he is finally exposed the first thing that should happen is that he and his lovely “beard” pay back the citizens for the use of our house which now exceeds a Billion dollars.
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Eastinfection
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:41pmBirthers are not helping. Regardless of where POTUS was born, he’s the president.
He’s proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he is bad at this job. Focus on THAT.
If his Presidency is ever proven to be invalid- it won’t happen until he’s long gone. Stop wasting THIS valuable energy on it.
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:00pm“Birthers are not helping”, are you kidding me they are the only sane people in the room. It any Republican has a fraudulent SS#, a fraudulent Selective Service registration, a forged birth certificate, a half dozen alias, a scrubbed Passport all hell would break loose within the Democrat ranks until the person was cast out of DC or arrested. That is the hard truth. As Ted Nugent declared Republican/Conservatives have “lost their scrotums.”
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Eastinfection
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:13pmCLUNKERT….
You’ve got three years to prove it.
If you don’t, you’re wasting your efforts.
Ideology, not Genealogy is the fight.
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:25pm@EASTINFECTION:
This Kenyan Marxist-in-Chief is not impeached yet and is even elected second time exactly because people like you believe in your mantra “Stop wasting THIS valuable energy on it” and didn’t and don’t support those who risk their lives and career to make the Truth unveiled.
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:32pm@East Infection:
This Marxist-in-Chief is not impeached yet and is even elected second time exactly because too many people like you believe in your mantra “Stop wasting THIS valuable energy on it” and didn’t and don’t support those who risk their lives and career to make the Truth unveiled.
Even if the invalidity of his presidency won’t be proven “until he’s long gone,” the efforts to prove the Truth could help to avoid the same nightmare in the future.
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nw5052001
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:58pmObstructing Justice is a Liberal thing…Who’s side are you on?
One more thing..The Constitution requires defending in it’s entirety, ..It is not for you nor anyone to pick and choose..We do not need anymore willing to surrender
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CrismaFire
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:53pmOnce Obama goes to court for his Birth Certificate he will lose and immediately be removed along with his sidekick Joe. Every law he signed in will be useless. It is the absolute most important thing that hits courts.
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:13am@eastinfection, it is not just the genealogy it is the fraud and crimes. If any Republican had these fraudulent and criminal issues it would been the end of their political careers and they would have been run out of politics and sent to prison. The POTUS should not be above the law.
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dannyo
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:41pmthe birther issue could uncover why he (He to 50% or more of the country) does not show his school records and his social security number…worth an investigation, IMHO, dems sure would if the tables were turned…
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:10amHe does not show his school records and his social security number because they are none of your business, because no other President has been asked to do so, and because it would be wrong to validate your disrespect for the dignity of his office and for his right to privacy as an American citizen.
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cashprize
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:36pmYeah, too bad on both scores. Orly, whom I respect tremendously, should not rain on someone else parade. On the other hand, it is disheartening that these people seems to care more for how they will be perceived than that there may be an FAKE President in the White House. I would have perferred that Ms Taitz had spoken privately with organizers and abided by their wishes. After all, There were meetings taking place during this time. Promises have been made.
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666Sucks
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:31pmTaitz is an true American treasure and hero and some day history will prove her right! The anti Birthers are either to ignorant to see the facts, or are RINO shills for Obama. God bless Arpaio and Taitz for all they have done. And wasn’t Breitbart meeting with Arpaio for his big press conference when he was killed, oops, had a heart attack after which a coroner was poisoned to death and the witness, a former combat medic, who said Brietbart, did not present signs if a heart attack, then disappeared…….. oh never mind, nothing to see here folks, just move along!
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:03pmThere isn’t one Republican or Conservative who is worthy to do Attorney Orly Taitz’s laundry. She is a true patriot as are all the others who have spent a lot of their own hard earned money to expose this Fraud in Chief. God bless all their efforts and they will indeed be seen as heroes eventually.
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wzanesdad
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:00pm666sucks,
You are absolutely right about all of this. Arpaio and taitz are as good as they come. The people arpaio had research all this are all professionals. Every one of them has had extremely successful carrers in forensic science and law enforcement. The evidence is all there for anyone to see if they so choose. The problem is…then what? I’m quite sure holder and napolitano know all about this, and I guarentee they will do absolutely nothing….ever. I know of no law enforcement agency, anywhere, that would be willing to arrest the potus. And good luck getting any court to hear the case. Even if someone was willing to arrest him, they would have to not only go through the secret service, but his security also consists of the DCPD, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the TSA, and lots of private security. The only ones capable of doing it would be the milkitary, but he has been cutting those ranks substantially. The ones that are left are scattered all around the world or are stationed so far away they could never help. All the while he’s building up his own private army in the state dept and TSA.
Nope…..I don’t think we have a chance persuing that avenue. I think our only hope is to show how bad his policies are and focus on getting good people elected that know what is going on and aren’t afraid to act.
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jimvet
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:24pmI’m leaving the Republican party after 48 years
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firearm
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:33pmDitto
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PutGodBackInAmerica
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:18pmI am with you. I sure did not vote for Mitt Romney the ultra liberal Mass liar.
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andrew36
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:36pmThats why Obama is still president. If you didnt vote for romney, stop your f%^$#@! whinging about Obama being president.
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:24pmIt really the Tea Party, party now.
They willingly let extremists take over
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:20pmWhat if law enforcement was so corrupt, or pursuing so much corruption, that a birth certificate just was not a priority?
Your kids are getting dumbed down in the university systems to vote Democrat all the time, they are getting dumbed down by the entertainment industry, and you people don’t blink an eye when the President proposes more research money that will reward these same university professors?
You have radioactive waste stored in multiple locations across the United States, just waiting for a meteor to pump that stuff in the atmosphere like a land mine in Vietnam called a “bouncing betty” if a meteor ever lands in one of those locations?
When you go to Church tomorrow, you know what to be thankful for? The clock is ticking?
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demorepublicrap
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:33pmWho is in the WH? H.Bounel or Obama! That should be a priority!
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PeteOH
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:10pmShame on the “Conservatives” who shut down the discussion on Hussein’s birth. This is a perfect example of the Media infiltrating the thoughts, conferences and even the actions of anything GOP through FEAR alone! This is a legitimate issue that remains unanswered. We are so afraid of what we’ll be called that we avoid the issue. Shame on the GOP for caving on this issue. Even IF Barry was born in Hawaii (for which there is ZERO concrete evidence), he does NOT meet the standard for NATURAL BORN. Before you reply with “Barry is a US Citizen”, please look up the definition of Natural Born and Article 2, Section 1 of our often ignored Constitution. Taiiz should be allowed to speak, let alone ask a question without getting heckled by our own. Shameful!
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TAXEVERYONE
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:18pmDoes not bode well for Geller and Co.
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canadianlady
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:41pmIt’s not just about where Obama was or wasn’t born. That’s where Beck wants it all to end, though, and what he’s reduced it to, but there’s much, much more. It’s the fact that the birth certificate online is a “forgery,” as well as the selective service card. Experts have proven it. And, it’s the fact that Obama has been using someone else’s social security number. That, too, has been proven. I’m sick and tired of Glenn, Pat and Stu hushing everyone up over this discussion. They claim Obama is using it to accuse us of racism. To that I say that Obama plays the race card every single day! What else is new?
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unclegeek
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:26pmYou sure it was conservatives there….or planned noise makers there for that one purpose?
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another pucker
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:51pmI hate to hear that they didn’t show her more respect. I believe that a lot of people believe that our founding fathers intended for the office of president to be held only by citizens born of citizen parents, both parents so as to not have any loyalty to any country but this country!
XOXOXO
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:28pmA lot of people do think that, but as long as the Congress and every judge in the country from the Supreme Court on down disagrees, it is not the current state of the law.
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ACTIONNOTTALK
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:49pmWho cares where an idiot was born?
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:05pmYeah who cares about the Constitution. The supreme law of the land.
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freedomnetworker
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:12pmI hate to break it to you but in this direct issue if he is not tried under his legitimacy everything he wrote will stand,.. Where they were born has a greater effect on the faithfulness to the country. I know in these days you have people that are lead astray but in the long run, people will back their country. When you have someone that claims to be proud of his country and he names in Kenya; you have an issue there. This means that his loyalties do not lye with the country he professes to lead. That is a very big issue.
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666Sucks
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:33pmSomeone who believes in our constitution and the rule of law, I for one!
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subic
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:21pmAny way you look at it, Barry Boundel is a criminal, from his fraudulent BC & SS # to his current actions. $1.4 billion to jetset around with his disgusting old lady & his fake kids, (niether of which look anything like him) could be considered embezzlement of federal money.
Now he wants $2 billion more to explore more alternative energy? Naw…… he wants $2 more bill to hand out to his buddies in another fraudulent scheme just like Solyndra. This pri* k is stealing from all of us.
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DAS_MOOCH
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:53pmand don’t forget, the MOOCH even said it in a speech she was giving. “buh-rak is from kenya”!
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katzkiner
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:25amYou should check out the joint project Barry has with Google to deliver high speed internet to Africa . It will be based in Kenya and will cost US taxpayers $307 BILLION. Hillary quietly announced the project just before resigning. We have a well established long line of traitors in the leadership of this country and “they” have become very wealthy selling out “We the People”. Barry is not alone in this betrayal. We were just to rich, much like Montezuma, the conquistadors came for the gold and the oil. We are being plundered.
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Zeus In A Speedo
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:40pmI understood why Beck and others did not want to touch the FACT that Barry Obummer is a Kenyan and a closet-muslim, BEFORE THE ELECTION. But he and the dems stole the election.
Let’s put our cards on the table and see what we’re holding – many aliases, SS# of a dead guy, fraudulent Birth Cert, fraudulent Selective Service Application, a statement, “It’s great to be in my home country” while in Kenya, an AP story referring to him as a “US Senator from Kenya,” and publishing dossier referring to him as being from Kenya!
That’s a pretty strong hand of suspicious behavior! One of these by itself is an anomaly, all of these together make a probability.
Someone with big ****** (aka – Sen. Cruz or Sen. Paul) needs to come forward and bring up Articles of Impeachment on this “obamination” of a president before the country is destroyed!
I don’t think we have 4 years to sit and wait on this!
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PutGodBackInAmerica
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:22pmI don’t.
He owns the Blaze. He can not be fired. As this thread proves nearly his entire audience feels this is a valid point.
Should he go after Obama daily on this. NO. But he sure should not knock those who do. He should at least on rare occasions point out the fact that Obama has never ever provided any proof he is qualified to be President.
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Dushman Kush
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:30pmThe birthplace of our Leader is Hawaii. Who is this disturbed woman?
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The-Monk
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:41pmDon Ho?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIy4nq6gYQ
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DR.SIGMUND-P-FLOYD
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:44pmDUSHMAN KUSH
This is a good start. You came out of your hole and you are now communicating..
Let get busy. We have no time to waist. I worry that you may lost beofre to long.
Talk to me DUSHMAN.
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STREBOR
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:48pmI thought he was born in Kenya……and he personally knows Tarzan.
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The-Monk
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:54pmGood Doctor,
I fear his mental isue is that he was born “Douchman Kush” and he stills holds resentments against his commie parents.
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demorepublicrap
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:15pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk
If you don’t know. You are excuse. Look at this short clip and then at the press conference of Zullo, investigator.
Now you know. The media silence is the answer.
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Ghostmaker
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:24pmYes Obama is a citizen through his mother. But he is not a natural born because of his father.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 2:11amGhostmaker
There are only two kinds of citizens, natural born and naturalized. Anybody who is born a citizen is a natural born citizen. This daft notion that there is some mysterious hitherto unknown third kind of citizen who is born a citizen, but not born a natural born citizen exists only on crackpot websites, nobody ever said any such ridiculous thing until after Mr. Obama was elected, and no judge, elected official, or other legal authority has ever endorsed it.
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GONE_SOVEREIGN
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 2:15amDUSHMAN KUSH, is that the name of the weed your growing/smoking? ID10T!
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wesaluteyou
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:24amGrover-
I think your smoking the crack pipe, even Obama does not agree with you. The Current INS under the Obama administration officially recognizes a delineation between native and natural born three times.
Interpretation 324.2 (a)(3) provides:
“The repatriation provisions of these two most recent enactments also apply to a native- and natural-born citizen woman who expatriated herself by marriage to an alien…” (Emphasis added.)
Then, Interpretation 324.2(a)(7) provides:
“(7) Restoration of citizenship is prospective . Restoration to citizenship under any one of the three statutes is not regarded as having erased the period of alienage that immediately preceded it.
The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired.” (Emphasis added.)
And again, Interpretation 324.2(b) provides:
“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status if naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen, as determined by her status prior to loss.” (Emphasis added.)
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45077/0-0-0-48575.html
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Verceofreason
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:26pmA publicity seeking ho
who can solve all her problems
by just moving back to Israel.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:34pmwesaluteyou
All native born citizens are natural born citizens, but not all natural born citizens are native born. Under current law the foreign born child of two citizens born in another country is a natural born citizen.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:36pmwesaluteyou
That is to say the child of two American citizens is a natural born citizen even if that child was born in another country.
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barber2
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:29pmI wish someone would get Obama’s hidden school records. Why won’t he let people see them?
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:47pmFrom Carl Gallups on his radio show who is at CPAC with Mike Zullo. He called in and reported this,
Zullo and Gallups made a presentation at a meeting yesterday and “shook hands with”:
Governors
Attorney Generals
Senators Congressmen
“All are so overwhelmed by anti-”birther” information in the past that they shut out “birthers”
“We have finally got ahold of these people and set them down and they are overwhelmed by the evidence.”
“We (Zullo and Gallups) have spent all day on Capitol Hill with VIPs”
“We have the attention of several VIPs who can make something happen.”
“We have promises made in front of witnesses that that a VIP will make something happen”
“Some of the recognizable VIPs are new to Washington and some have been around for awhile and they have never heard of our evidence.”
“If some people keep their promises, the American people will see some results in a few months.
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Satellite309
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:27pmdear civilwarcometh,
I just wanted to say “thank you” for continuing to update us with information concerning Obama. I haven’t been able to post here much lately because I have been busy but I have noticed your outstanding contributions.
WARNING TO TROLLS ON THIS WEBSITE :
wave hello to FBI agents watching your activity here. They know what you are doing and why you’re here. In fact, feel free to address them directly and don’t forget to wave hello to your webcams. Enjoy!
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cal_105
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:22pmShouting down someone sounds like the Democrats to me. I thought that the Republicans wanted a big tent? That means listening to someone you don’t agree with.
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gyro
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:27pmreasonable asumption
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:30pmSounds like the Republicans are afraid of facing the truth ! They are all a bunch of Commies!
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Primekid
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:53pmExactly.
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TimeIsUp
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:42pmThe breitbart people have been silent on the issue of obama’s identity for years. That is why I, for one, ignore them. OTOH, I think Pam Gellar is doing a great job. And Orly Taitz is fabulous and a tireless worker who know a commie when she sees one cause SHE LIVED UNDER THEIR RULE for years. It is a GD shame that she is ignored and treated like this by the very people she is trying to HELP.
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bamanana
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:18pmHmm wonder if the panel thinks Sherrif Joe & his investigators are ignorant & hysterical? This panel & the GOP is what s wrong with their so called conservatism. Think about it, if ordinary citizen had a SS# that was in someone else name there would be an arrest & conviction. Right? Remember the scrutiny W went through about his National Guard duty? But you turn a deaf ear to the Marxist concerning his student loan apps. & all of his past is secretive! Ask yourself why.
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horsehockey
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:57pmWhen/if CPAC puts down anyone who still questions BHO’s birth records, that shows what CPAC has become, and it ain’t good.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:30pm“Hmm wonder if the panel thinks Sheriff Joe & his investigators are ignorant & hysterical”
No, I would guess that the panel thinks Sheriff Joe & his investigators are cynical frauds.
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ClunkerT
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:20pmHere is a little common sense logic. If Eric Holder thought that Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his criminal investigators didn’t have the evidence to sink this administration he would have brought the entire force of the federal government upon these folks and charged them with sedition for attempting to take down the POTUS. They don’t dare do any such thing it would bring the gates of hell crashing down upon him and his boss and the rest of the thugs from Chicago and the DNC for knowingly nominating this fraud and criminal. Eric Holder knows his boss is dirty and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised that he has been providing cover for him. Hold on to your hats, I think these amazing patriots finally got the ear of some very important people. I will say this if there is no action as a result of this weekends events we are witnessing a hopelessly corrupt government and we will not survive such corruption.
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hi
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:18pmShe has shown that Obama uses the social security number of a dead man. She is a very smart woman. The Saul alinsky tactic is to ridicule the opponent. Whenever we ask to see Obama’s records, we are ridiculed. She is a dentist and a lawyer. She has an amazing CV.genius.
You go girl!
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barber2
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:26pmAll of this reminds me of Benghazi. Double standard, MSM in the pocket of the Left.
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:16pmThe Constitution matters!
Our Constitution disqualifies Obama, Jindal, Rubio Cruz, and McCain (if born in a Panama hospital off the Navy base considered U.S. soil), for not being a “natural born citizen” http://youtu.be/esiZZ-1R7e8 born in the nation to citizen parents (plural), pursuant to Article 2, Section 1, which states, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible …” as carefully crafted by the founders to exclude anyone harboring foreign allegiance from eligibility.
Obama is British by birth, likely also Kenyan and by adoption perhaps Indonesian, as his father was a British citizen of colonial Kenya, further precluding eligibility pursuant to 1948 British Nationality Act.
Sheriff Arpaio’s ongoing investigation released evidence proving Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent! http://youtu.be/alVzyfptF80 This fact, along with Obama’s altered Selective Service registration, stolen Social Security number(s) and aliases: Barry Soetoro, Barack Soetoro, Barack Soebarkah, Harrison J. Bounel, suggest he’s not even a U.S. citizen!
If God, ‘unalienable’ rights and our Constitution matter, then how does one justify extolling conservative principles, while hypocritically condoning the moral relativism of ignoring Article 2, Section 1, of our Constitution, to tolerate the usurpation of the Office of the President?
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civilwarcometh
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:42pmBirther Queen? How about Constitutionalism Queen? The Constitution does not matter unless it falls in with their agenda. Who’s agenda? Both sides apparently. Lead Investigator Zullo
Receives Promises from VIP’s. CONGRESSMEN GOHMERT, KING, AND INHOFE PRESENTED WITH PROOF OF OBAMA’S IDENTITY FRAUD IN PERSON…
IF THEY FAIL TO ACT, THEY ARE TREASON CONSPIRATORS. <<< At CPAC…..
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:59pmMcLame was born in the Panama Canal Zone (US Territory at the time). By your reasoning… Barry Goldwater could not have run for POTUS.
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Ghostmaker
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:20pmNo Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Both of MCcain’s parents were US Citizens so it matters not where he was born. You are correct on Rubio and Jindal. Rubios parents received citizenship after Rubio was born. Obama is disqualified because of his Kenyan Daddy.
By the way a US court of appeals court upheld that both parents are required to be US citizens last year and that requirement was not changed by the 14th amendment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2013/03/abdul-karim-hassan-vs-federal-election-commission-march-11-2013-u-s-court-of-appeals-per-curiam-order-hassan-not-natural-born-citizen-2457566.html
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rjtaurus605
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:07pmOn this subject I have an open mind, how are the birth announcements in the Hawaiian papers explained? I have absolutely no use for this president, I truly believe he is on a mission to destroy our nation, I am not ridiculing anyone opinion , I just want the truth.
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Ghostmaker
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:54pmThe key is Natural Born…. That means both parents must be a US citizen.
Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, This line no longer applies unless you time warp to 1798.
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Barry Soetoro
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:20pmDamn skippy. Both parties and my millionaire media minions all profit by lauding me as messiah to the left or heretic to the right, while diverting attention to my sacrosanct citizenship and away from the constitution.
Make no mistake, Congress is the best money can buy, due to amendment 17. Fear of audits paralyze the public into stifled submission, due to the 16th. Once sovereign states now depend on my largess, due to ignoring the 10th.
Judicial malfeasance flourishes as legal lemmings seek my favor for advancement, laying lady justice low, jaded, jealous and truly blind as she does my bidding. Federal employees serve at my pleasure. Despite their oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic (me), no civil servant will risk their job by voicing the obvious naked truth about their emperor. Even among alleged leaders in your beloved military, former Lt. Col., Dr. Terry Lakin M.D., being the brave exception, none dare properly place duty, honor, country or their oath, above career.
America’s failure to enforce Article 2, Section 1, proves Alinsky ridicule and lies can achieve revolution from within. Voters ignoring my father and their founding fathers, to raid their own treasury, shall have their 30 pieces of silver, and a dictator who is above the law!
Let me be perfectly clear, I loath the constitution as a charter of negative liberties limiting my power, and I ain’t havin’ it.
It’s good to be King!
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:22amGhostmaker
Abdul Karim Hassan is a naturalized citizen born in another country. The dismissal of his case is irrelevant to the status of citizens such as Mr. Obama, Mr. Jindal or Mr. Rubio, who were all born in this country and are, therefore, natural born citizens fully entitled to seek the office of President.
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 3:53am@ Grover
Pssst, Grover, over here. Yeah hi. Listen Grover, I see you’re new here, but all the same, based on your few posts, I gotta let you know that you’re about to be declared a troll.
Grover, Grover, yes Grover I know it’s not fair, calm down, GROVER … stop your crying, it’s alright, really it is. We understand, honestly we do. Yes of course we want you to fit in too and have fun here just like the rest of us. Grover, it’s going to be ok. This happens a lot. Of course we realize you’re just acting on what little you’ve gleaned from national radio and TV; ahemm, thanks Glenn.
So Grover, let’s get you caught up with the others. First off let’s try a short Youtube video http://youtu.be/esiZZ-1R7e8 by a real constitutional law professor and former law school dean. Yes, that is cool.
See that was short wasn’t it, so what do you think? You say Obama’s a fraud? Hmmm yes, well that unfortunately is the case. Well yes Grover, I know he’s the president. We’re all a bit put off by that. Don’t be so upset, it’s not that bad… oh well, alright then, yes of course it is that bad. But now that you know the truth, at least you’ll be able to get along with all your new friends posting here, so you know, you got that going for you.
Yes Grover, you’re right, it’ll be a long wait but don’t fret, maybe Glenn will spill the beans before then and let the real fun begin!
Yes Grover, we certainly agree, that would be very decent of him.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:28amteapartyconservatism
What do I think? I think Herbert Titus is a fraud and Barack Obama is a natural born citizen just like anybody else who is born a citizen. You know how I know that? Because the word natural is also attached to people who aren’t born as citizens. They are naturalized, or made natural. If somebody who is made a citizen is made natural, then somebody who is born a citizen and doesn’t need to be naturalized is a natural born citizen. Whatever the word natural meant to people back in the eighteenth century when they used it in reference to citizenship, it had nothing to do with biology or nature as we think of it, and everything to do with belonging to a place.
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:43am@ rjtaurus605
The birth announcement in Hawaii newspapers is insignificant. It was standard operating procedure for the HI Department of Health to provide recently registered birth information to the newspapers for routine inclusion.
However being a new state at the time, Hawaii residents who could provide some proof, such as a family utility bill, that HI was their home state at least a year before an unattended birth, whether that child was born in HI or brought to HI, could with no state verification of birth location beyond the applicant’s word, simply request and receive a birth certificate for the child.
This makes the newspaper announcement immaterial to proving Obama’s birth location. Hawaii’s failure to verify birth location for “unattended births” created a fatal flaw in the state’s vital records, which invalidates those records as proof of birth location sufficient to authorize U.S. citizenship. HI granting not just one, but possibly thousands of birth certificates to potential foreigners, is a serious threat to national security.
For more information see: http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/252833/
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:34am@ Grover
Grover, Grover, Grover… what can anyone possibly say to that? Perhaps happy St. Patty’s day will hopefully suffice. You are debating without benefit of facts. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:22am@ TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAI
McLame…. first time I’ve seen that one. Not a very nice way to describe a guy who volunteered for what he endured. You got to give him credit for that. Anyway, if not born in Panama hospital but on the Navy base, which is considered U.S. soil, then he is good to go. If not, then he’s a no go. To the best of my knowledge, he declined to produce proof either way.
As for Goldwater, you have a great guy who some say missed his true calling. Be that as it may, by not being born in the nation but in a territory, which is not U.S. soil similar to a state, a military base, embassy or even a U.S. vessel, I say he’s not eligible. Others may disagree and perhaps use Guam or Puerto Rico as a yet untested example, but I still deffer to the founders wisdom. The Constitution, being both precise and subject to hopefully excessively cautious amendment, must be regarded as the inviolate law of the land, never to be demeaned by subjective compromise accommodating what we wish it said, as opposed to what it actually does say.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:28amIt’s a fact that people who become citizens are naturalized, which means made natural. They are natural made citizens. If you really maintain that some people who are born citizens are not natural born citizens, then you will have to explain how the citizenship of somebody who came here a few years ago after living somewhere else all his life can be more natural than the citizenship of somebody who born here forty years ago and has lived here all his life.
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:38amSince you are so big on facts, it is a fact that the only judges who have ever been forced to waste their time hearing a case based on this ridiculous theory all said I am right and you are wrong:
STEVE ANKENY AND BILL KRUSE, Appellants-Plaintiffs, vs. GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF INDIANA, Appellee-Respondent.
Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
Admittedly that was just a state court, but that’s as high as it will ever go because for it to go any higher there would have to be such a thing as a judge who would think that this case was decided wrongly, and there is not and never will be.
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:31pm@ Grover
Grover all the world admires a self educated man. This is your big chance. Before you lies the combined wisdom of patriotic warrior poets, wise philosophers and assorted Guinness, stoutly wielded by an extraordinary complement of sometimes unsavory but none the less clever, occasionally drunken characters, prodigiously producing an astonishing array of politically cathartic if not, dare one say, ingenious insights into resolving our current dilemma.
Most regrettably Grover, fine sir though you may be, you are not among them. Not yet, but what shall become of anyone who abandons all hope? No doubt a hellish end not to be endured by mere mortals, or so one would hope, right? So on this fine day of merciful merriment, mischief and even green beer, Grover do be of good cheer. You needn’t remain cloaked in darkness, strive for self enlightenment. Always be hopeful, even if this perchance approaches hoping against hope.
Do try, even if there may be little point to such futility other than it makes you feel better, for particularly today, that is all many wisely aspire to. Come what may, be mindful that hope serves a grand purpose, but then again, and yet again, and even again once, twice or thrice more, so does Guinness!
Forge on poor brave Grover, dare to change your stars, for knowledge abounds before you, http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2013/01/barack-obama-de-facto-president-of.html surely making this your lucky day!
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Grover_Standpipe
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:16pmThat drivel is just the usual pseudo-scholarly misinformation. You know quite well that Minor v. Happersett the Court made clear that they did not intend to establish a full and exclusive definition of a natural born citizen because it had nothing to do with the case at hand.
“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
And when they finally did vist the issue in US v Wong Kim Ark they determined that the law of the land was and always had been that anybody born here is a natural born citizen:
“It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject …
III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.”
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:50am@ Grover
Well Grover, I understand how you feel, in fact a lot of my best friends felt the same way until they tried looking at the issue from another angle or perhaps a broader perspective.
It would be great to hear a yes, I’m on board. I can deal with someone saying no, when they feel they have better facts. It’s the middle ground where opinions are proffered without being supported, that I don’t know what to do with. So I’m just going to move on and wish you well.
Here are a few free parting pearls of patriotic insight and thanks for participating in the great American experiment with self governed freedom. So long and good luck.
Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” This is “binding precedent as to the Constitutional definition of a natural born citizen.” — Leo Donofrio, JD., Esq.
U.S. v Wong Kim Ark, 1898. This case is relative to the definition of a natural born citizen by virtue of being consistent with the holding in Minor v. Happersett. The court purposefully, precisely and accurately held that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen, as opposed to a natural born citizen. “Since Wong Kim Ark didn’t fit into the class of natural-born citizens as defined by Minor, the Court looked to the 14th Amendment to grant him US citizenship.” — Leo Donofrio, JD., Esq.
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Tom21773
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:13pmWow! So Breitbart’s people are as intolerant of others’ views as much as Beck’s people. While I find the existence of these two organizations important to presenting the conservative viewpoint, I find their tolerance for only their own conspiracies to be intolerable. Let someone else ask a question and they call them nut cases, even though there is undeniably and inarguably more than substantial evidence for needing to ask the questions. I will LMAO if it is ever proven that o’Bama has no legal right to be president. Ethically, he obviously has no right. But if it’s proven that the progressives have installed an ineligible president, the Breitbart and Beck/Blaze organizations will lose credibility and suffer embarrassment right along with them.
KidCharlemagne
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:12pm“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emer de Vattel: ‘The Law of Nations (1758)’
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CommentsOfWeThePeople
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 2:38pm. U R exactly right and 4 those who want to listen, take 6 minutes of your time and listen to
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmWxJqQe6Gs
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zoro51
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:11pmno i Am a BIRTHER “QUEEN” obama isnt american born but kenyan born… IMPEACH N EJECT FORM AMERICA this LIAR DECIEVER DIVIDER SOCIALIST WANTS SO BAD TO BE A DICTATOR NOW
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Palter
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:08pmTea, anybody?
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muffythetuffy
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:17pmFREEDOM OF SPEECH NO LONGER WELCOMED AT CPAC
This sounded like a Obama press conference. CPAC is not for people who want to live in Liberty and Freedom.
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barber2
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:25pmDo explain .
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gyro
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:30pmI will fill that in
In india the brits stopped the war sat down for tea then were slaughtered
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no1hd
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:54pmAnother panel with nor credibility.
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